1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: These sees Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Messer and Tim 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Stentovic on Bloomberg Radio. Well, speaking of growth, Carol, it's 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: hard to believe, but about half the world's population remain 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: unconnected and without the Internet, you're not going to see 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: the economic growth that countries that have widespread connectivity have. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Many in the developing world. Lots of groups and companies 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: and governments are out there looking to change that, including Microsoft. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: We've got a great voice, Yeah, we do. Indeed, Vicky 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Robinson as general manager of the air Band Initiative at Microsoft. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: They bring broadcast broadband connectivity to people living in unserved 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: rural areas globally. It launched back in She is with 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: us via zoom in Washington, d C. Vicky, Happy New Year. 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: Great to have you here with us again. Talk to 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: us at bit about the initiative and what you guys 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: have achieved so far because you've been around what now 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: you're in your fifth or sixth year, that's correct, and 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: happy New Year. Thanks so much for having me um. 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: As you've mentioned that your been initiative has been around 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: for five years now, since twenty seventeen, and our whole 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: objective is to expand access to Internet Internet access throughout 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: the globe. And we do this largely because we view 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: it as our responsibility as a business imperative to enable 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: widespread use of our technology. And so since we embarked 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: upon this work, to date, we've extended high speed Internet 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: access to fifty one million people across sixteen countries as 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: well as the United States. And that includes nine million 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: on the continent of Africa and four million here in 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: the United States. So how are you doing it? What's 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: the technology that you're using. We're using a variety of technologies, 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: but what's really a core and important for us is 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: the partnership model. So I think it's important to clarify 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: uh this point that this is not work that Microsoft 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: is doing directly. We know that there are some of 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: the tech sect or who are in fact providing connectivity directly, 35 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: but that's not our approach. Our approach instead is focused 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: on partnering with others in the private, public, and nonprofit 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: sectors in order to increase access to the Internet throughout 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: the world. And so in doing that, we use a 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: variety of technology solutions. I have to ask, but I'm 40 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: not a cynic. I'm an optimist. But perhaps somebody listening 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: may say, Okay, well, of course Microsoft wants everyone connected 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: to the internet, because the more people who are connected, 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: the more of those people could sign up for Office three, 44 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: or use Microsoft Teams, or use the products that that 45 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: we all use from Microsoft. And we don't dispute that. Uh, 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: that's part of the opportunity side. Listen. For our perspective, 47 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: we believe that we have an opportunity and an obligation 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: to uh have our technology widely deployed. And so yes, um, 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: the Internet is an enabler of at and we certainly 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: benefit from more people being online. We don't run from that, 51 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: but we also view this as part of our corporate 52 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: social responsibility as well. And I will point out to 53 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: him it's not a given that if you're going to 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: be connected to the Internet that you will by default 55 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: use Microsoft technology. But that is part of a calculation 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: in us doing this work. We don't we don't shy 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: away from that reality. How do you pick up the 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: momentum in the speed right there's you talk about the 59 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: in roads and success you've made um so far, but 60 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: there are millions, tens of millions of people, hundreds of 61 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: millions of people right that are still not connected. So yes, 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: yea progress, but so much more to be done. How 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: do you pick it up? So much more to be done? 64 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you were talking about this as 65 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: we were jumping into the conversation. A third of the world, 66 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: two point seven billion people are not connecting to the internet. 67 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: So that's a huge challenge. But I will say the 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: pandemic and people being forced to shelter in whether it's 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: for learning or for doing your job or getting medical services, 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: that really helped to shine a light on this issue 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: in a way, um that I can tell you from 72 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: doing this work for the past two decades has not 73 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: been easy to kind of translate. And so when you 74 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: think about the two point seven billion people across the world, 75 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: which is a third of the world, and then here domestically, 76 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: according to our data, you have a hundred and twenty 77 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: million people or third of the United States who are 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: not using the internet. It is a big, hairy problem. 79 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: But the good news is is that there is a 80 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: lot of awareness and commitment globally by governments as well 81 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: as a private sector to address this problem in a 82 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: meaningful way. And so one example of that here in 83 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: the United States is an infrastructure bill that was pasted 84 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: last year and it's infused in sixty five billion dollars 85 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: to address this this very problem here domestically. What's the 86 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: biggest sticky point? Sticking point? I mean and I and 87 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: to be fair in the emerging economies, I mean kudos, 88 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: I think in terms of what you guys are doing. 89 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: But some of these people are just you know, they're 90 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: trying to even just put food food on their table. 91 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: Like it's a very tough environment. There's so much to 92 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: be done, is it? So where do you get caught up? Uh? 93 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: In problems? Uh? Is it governments? Is it just working 94 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: within systems that don't have a lot of great infrastructure? 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: On so many different levels? What is it? It's multifaceted actually, 96 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: So one thing to point out is that when you're 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: talking about uh develop you know, Global South and and 98 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: and and developing countries, um, there is also the barrier 99 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: of energy access. So if you look at Africa, for example, 100 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: where we are committed to expand access to a hundred 101 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: million people on the continent, many of those people don't 102 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: have energy access. So that's a that's a barrier, and 103 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: that's something that you need to address because of course, 104 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: you can't talk about internet access if you don't have 105 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: at base energy access. So it's really thinking about program 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: that address both the energy challenges, but as as well 107 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: as the lack of internet access. To your point, it 108 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: also needs to be affordable, um and so uh there 109 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: while if you have uh internet access, it's available and 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: it is available to certain parts of the world, if 111 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: you can't afford it, it's just it's it's just as 112 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: more well may not be a barrier, it's available because 113 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: it's a barrier to you. And so it is important 114 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: for governments. Uh. This has to be a whole of society, 115 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: whole world approach for government to lean in, whether it's 116 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: through funding programs for deployment of high speel Internet access 117 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: skills devices. It's multifaceted, well, Vicky. A lot of it 118 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: does have to do with the technology and the actual 119 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: way that you get the signal to rural areas and 120 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: areas of the world that are unconnective. We know Elon 121 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Musk is working very hard with Starlink to bring Internet 122 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: to previously unconnected places. Any plans to work with with Starlink, 123 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: the SpaceX connectivity, Internet connectivity UH business, We're We're open 124 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: to working with everyone, but you don't currently work pardon 125 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: you don't currently work with starlink. Right, Microsoft does work 126 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: with starlink, but airband specifically not not currently. But we 127 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: are partnering with via set, who, like Starlink, provides satellite 128 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: based internet connectivity UM. In fact, as part of our 129 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: recent partnership with via set, and this is the first 130 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: of its kind. Um that, at least from an airband perspective, 131 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: we are committed to extending raw band access to ten 132 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: million people across the world, five million of which are 133 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: on the continent of Africa, and we are a big tent. 134 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: We're open to working with all partners and the private, public, 135 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: and nonprofit sectors, and so we're certainly open to that. 136 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Believe solutions light um uh starling in the low Earth 137 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: orbiting satellite provide a lot of promise for attacking this 138 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: problem in a meaningful way. Hey Vicky, just have thirty seconds, 139 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: so if you could be quick please, But in terms 140 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: of recession or recession with the economic, global, economic macro 141 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: environment might be, how will that may be slow? Are 142 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: you seeing that? And could that possibly slow your initiative? 143 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: And again very quickly, um any anything's possible, of course, 144 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: but again I think the promise and of what's required 145 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: to actually exists in the digital world, um, and the 146 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: promise that technology holds to act as a deflationary force. 147 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: I think, combined with the government investments that we're seeing 148 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: crop up a wrong world that um, that will help 149 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: to hopefully blunt those um the macroeconomic environment and the 150 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: potential risk here. All right. Vicky Robinson, general manager of 151 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Airband Initiative over at Microsoft, joining us via zoom from Washington, 152 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: d have to say, I feel like we've been talking 153 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: a long time too about connecting the whole world. Yeah. 154 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Interesting to think about the devices to write sort of 155 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, hop scotching the idea of computers and going 156 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: right to phones