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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, April twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I'm Jay Skates here in the Classic

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Speaker 1: Factory and alongside me as always, Task.

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Speaker 2: Melis Basketball lovers, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, a top shot

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Speaker 1: hot boy, Trey Kirby af A oh and Overyonder making

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Speaker 1: the magic happen. Super producer JD. Hellay there is here.

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Speaker 1: Hello to everybody on YouTube hitting the like button, subscribe,

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Speaker 1: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews for your boys

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Speaker 1: here in the playoffs. Got some games to talk about,

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Speaker 1: got some news. We'll look ahead to tonight's four games.

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Speaker 3: Hungry, What is it Saturday?

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Speaker 1: There's a game starting at six pm Eastern tonight.

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Speaker 3: That's the one that's on NBAVN University or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's an NBA TV double hatter six and eight

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Speaker 2: thirty and then seven to nine thirty on your main network,

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Speaker 2: eight and ten thirty. Sorry, whatever it is. You got

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Speaker 2: two on NBA TV and two on the main network.

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Speaker 1: That's right. The Pacers is starting at six pm. That's

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Speaker 1: that's a five local time.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where India Annapolis is, I can't be

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Speaker 3: about its eastern what Yep, that's amazing. They got they

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Speaker 3: have interesting daylight savings observances in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, anyway, yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's currently ten o nine am interesting currently have guessed that. Yeah, WEIRDO, that's.

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Speaker 1: Weird, so weird, that's very weird. Times Still give me zones.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about last night's games. You guys

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Speaker 1: want to start with the heat Caps getting Let's start

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Speaker 1: with Jimmy Butler returning from injury to lead the Warriors

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Speaker 1: past the Rockets one o nine, one oh six for

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Speaker 1: the three one series lead. Came out of the wire

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Speaker 1: task obviously, jim and Jimmy Butler making big play, some

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Speaker 1: big defensive stands from the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And they get another close one here and going back

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Speaker 1: here to Houston for Game.

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Speaker 2: Five, well, they get the all the way to the

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Speaker 2: end because of the Jimmy Butler effect. Even when he

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Speaker 2: got there, I'm gonna come play hard, you better come

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Speaker 2: play behind me. And they don't get there unless Buddy

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Speaker 2: Healed and Brandon Pajemski play like that. Have you ever

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Speaker 2: seen Buddy Heald play defense like he did early in

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Speaker 2: that game against Jalen Green. He stopped Jalen Green on

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Speaker 2: a drive and then he poked one from Jalen Green

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Speaker 2: immediately after and that threw off Jalen Green. He started

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Speaker 2: turning the ball over, giving it to Moody, just dropping

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Speaker 2: the ball giving it to Brandon Pagemski on her drive.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't altogether because a buddy freaking healed. And if

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler is going to come back with a pelvit

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Speaker 2: contusion and play forty minutes, you better freaking play hard.

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Speaker 2: And the role the trickle down effect was to Brandon

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Speaker 2: Pegemski when Jimmy Butler got there. Brandon Pejetski became a

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Speaker 2: new player in February March, and this was clearly his

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Speaker 2: best game of the postseason. He was awesome. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: get space with Steph and Jimmy and others getting the ball,

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Speaker 2: and it's up to you to create like he can.

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Speaker 2: And so he was just awesome at shooting the ball

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Speaker 2: and making the right plays, converting, getting on the offensive glass,

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Speaker 2: which the Rockets made just a bunch of dumb mistakes,

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Speaker 2: just not being able to grab boards in that situation.

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Speaker 2: It was like a two on three rebound. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how the Warriors got it. Dylan Brooks touching Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Butler all over the place when Jimmy was I got

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Speaker 2: a sore butt and Dylan Brooks literally just tapped him

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Speaker 2: on a three point shot. Just dumb things were happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: really really weird stuff there. All that to say it,

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Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks saved this team. I at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the game. But Jimmy just got them all the way

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Speaker 2: to the end, getting all those fouls because he's freaking good.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the best in the world and getting it.

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Speaker 2: Someone will say Shay, but I think Jimmy Butler gets

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Speaker 2: it in so many different situations, offensive class, free ball.

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Speaker 2: I mean when there's just the loose ball fees. That

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Speaker 2: he can make it happen anywhere. I think he's the

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Speaker 2: in that last position against Shenggun. So all that to say,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler was there and the other guys the trickle

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Speaker 2: You know, Stuff didn't have to have a big game, Nope,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy just had to do enough and their defense obviously

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Stuff's about the fourth story from the Warriors. I

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Speaker 3: feel like in this one, seventeen points on thirteen shots.

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Speaker 3: Made some good shots, for sure, but it was definitely

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. The Draymond stop on shng gun was sweet.

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Speaker 3: The rebound from Jimmy Butler was better. The guy flew

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Speaker 3: down the free throws as well. Got into a little

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Speaker 3: beef with Dylan Brooks. They asked them, it looked like

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Speaker 3: you were having fun becau. Dylan Brooks was laughing. He said, no,

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Speaker 3: we're not having fun. Me on the record with this.

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Speaker 3: I don't like Dylan Brooks. No one does. Those guys

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Speaker 3: are fighting. Brooks immediately flops on the inbounds on that play.

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Speaker 3: That was hilarious. To me, but it was a youth

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Speaker 3: Four point lead for Houston with four minutes and six

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Speaker 3: That's just good basketball, Like they just carved him up

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Speaker 3: on that one. Good stuff. On the other end, Shng

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Speaker 3: Goon gets Buddy Healed on a switch late, takes a real,

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Speaker 3: real soft shot similar to the one he took on Draymond.

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Speaker 3: Later on he would get Gary Payton the second on him.

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Speaker 3: A couple of dribbles, spin move, easy layup, but this

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Speaker 3: which means Sheng Gooon is now guarding Buddy Healed. Easy

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Speaker 3: plays great defense on that. Fred Vant van Vliet take

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Speaker 3: four and Jimmy Butler goes coast to coast. She Gooon

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Speaker 3: but Dylan Brooks went Dylan Brooks mode, fouling Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 3: at home. We saw that in Game three. Buddy Heield

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Speaker 3: team playing Buddy Heeld. They played small and they played

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Speaker 2: Yep, hate it.

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Speaker 1: And what did you think of the Rockets Coachi Dooka's

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Speaker 1: it despite all of what Trey just went through. There's

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Speaker 1: appeared to be, hey, Van Vliek come over and set

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Speaker 1: just blew it up, wouldn't allow Vaanvliet come over to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Draymond did an incredible job of not even using

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Speaker 2: all right, we'll play the numbers here, Shangun let it

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Speaker 2: Sheng Gun taking it from the three point line was

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Speaker 2: not in a good flow. Yes, of course, you'll see

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Speaker 2: the numbers there that he scored twelve buckets of his

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Speaker 2: It would be nice to have another guard making things happen.

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Speaker 2: It would be nice to have Jalen Green on the floor.

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Speaker 2: And Jalen Green just lost himself.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: He hit a couple of shots and he did something,

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Speaker 2: but he got five turnovers and he wasn't there to

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Speaker 2: the numbers aren't bad numbers to see Shangun shoot from there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. On one hand, I was like,

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Speaker 3: Shangun's their best player, he's their best offensive player. He's

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Speaker 3: the only guy who could reliably get shots. Last night,

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Speaker 3: Fred van Bliet did have a I had a baby

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Speaker 3: guarding them two of eleven for Schenguon. He did a

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Speaker 3: So I don't know like that was a makeable shot

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Speaker 3: van Bleet handling the ball and deciding what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: But I wasn't too upset about. I just flashed back

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Speaker 3: to Draymond's first ever playoff game when he was a rookie.

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Speaker 3: He was a defensive sub got cooked by Andre Miller

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Speaker 3: for a lamp against the Denver Nuggets. Things have changed.

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Speaker 3: He's the old guy now savvy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had committed so many in this game

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Speaker 1: He did it all.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he did it all. The hands were all over Shangoun.

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Speaker 2: But the Rockets just made too many little baby mistakes,

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Speaker 2: times where shang Gun was in the dunker spot. Hey,

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Speaker 2: and they miss him. And there's just so many things

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Speaker 2: don't get the ball to the right guy. And Jalen

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Speaker 2: Gren being taken out of the game was a part

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Speaker 2: of that. He's supposed to be the guard. Things happened,

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Speaker 2: he lost it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he was amazing in their one win.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Green. That's what we're coming at here. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's just like been disappeared for three games. These four

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Speaker 1: this I saw Zilla writes this morning, when you were

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Speaker 1: first and foremost a scorer and your team relies on

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Speaker 1: you for that, having three bad nights out of four,

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Speaker 1: he could have cut it, and that's where you're at

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Speaker 3: But he's been so vital to the Rockets. It's like,

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Speaker 3: Steven Adams has to be playing? Yeah, it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: We also had things getting chippy between these two teams.

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Speaker 1: assessed a technical foul. No excuse me. If he was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they rest didn't want to kick Draymond Green out.

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Speaker 2: He landed on amn. Thompson later kind of gave him

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Speaker 2: That's why Jimmy Butler loves soccer. You know, he loves

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green carrying Trey Kirby's Instigator team so far, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I got him with the second pick, right,

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Speaker 1: Basically, it's such a great way to put it, he gets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, according to the tabulations, he's leading the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: So how do you see this going in game five?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 1: Back in Houston? You know you talked about sort of

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Speaker 3: I think Houston should at least be confident like they

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Speaker 3: played this game close. Game three wasn't a blowout in

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Speaker 3: I said Adams was good, but Tari Easton was kind

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Speaker 3: I thought Thompson had his best game. But they need

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Speaker 3: I don't think it.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't do that.

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Speaker 3: That might be a problem.

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Speaker 2: The problem is Steph had his cold night and everybody

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Speaker 1: The Warriors obviously do respect the Rockets enough here, And

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Speaker 1: Shout out the Harrison Barnes as well. But Draymond Green

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Not last night. I think they

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Speaker 1: But this is this is a scrappy team. But it's

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Speaker 1: just like you're right, it's these little details at the

431
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Speaker 1: end of games, maybe some strange coaching decisions from Udoka

432
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Speaker 1: that have like tipped the balance and then all the

433
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Speaker 1: misfree throws.

434
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Speaker 3: The gotta make free throws forts at games in.

435
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,440
Speaker 1: A very close game to leave on the board. Anything else,

436
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 1: Any random notes from Warriors Rockets game four last night.

437
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,360
Speaker 1: Thank god it was entertaining because that first one. Yes,

438
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Speaker 1: thank you very much, Thank you very much to all

439
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,399
Speaker 1: those competitive players out there.

440
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm random.

441
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Speaker 3: I did like I did, Like Jimmy's a skew headband,

442
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 3: I'll say it's head band. Got knocked sideways on that

443
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,119
Speaker 3: last rebound, and then it was even sideways and he

444
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 3: got to the postgame interview, didn't take chance to adjus

445
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Speaker 3: straighten it.

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, looking good, Let them look cool like that. All right, Well,

447
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 1: let's talk briefly here about the Cavs winning by fifty

448
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 1: five points to sweep the Heat and finish off the

449
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,120
Speaker 1: most lopsided series in NBA playoff history. That's right, Cleveland

450
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 1: won the series by a combined one hundred and twenty

451
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Speaker 1: two points, one more than the previous record for a

452
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Speaker 1: series margin set by the Nuggets over the Pelicans in

453
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. I was like racking my brain.

454
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't really remember that. I guess

455
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 1: for good reason. It was a complete blowout. But anyway,

456
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 1: fifty five point margin here in Game four, fourth biggest

457
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 1: playoff winever Trey brutal start for Miami in this game.

458
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: I think it was three turnovers in their first four possessions.

459
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 1: The first play was Jared Allen jumping the passing lane,

460
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 1: grabbing the ball and going for a fast break dunk.

461
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: Like not how you want to start a game. Obviously,

462
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: he calves are on fire from three, and this thing

463
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 1: got out of hand in a hurry.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was watching this one by myself in the

465
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 3: first quarter and Ada came out saw the score was

466
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Speaker 3: twenty five to eight, and she was Rajon Rondo like, huh,

467
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe the score. And then it somehow just

468
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: got worse and worse and worse. Amazing stuff from the Caves.

469
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: They were super impressive in this series. It's just got

470
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 3: to be weird to be a one seed this season, Like,

471
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 3: look at what the Grizzly or look what the Thunder did.

472
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: Look what the Caves did. They get a week off

473
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Speaker 3: after the NBA season ends while they do the play

474
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Speaker 3: in tournament. Then you come in, you just destroy a

475
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 3: team that's not a match for you at all. Then

476
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 3: you get another week off. Cleveland and Okase will have

477
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 3: played four games since April thirteenth. That's it. And I mean, like,

478
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 3: I mean, at least okay See is waiting still, like

479
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: they're gonna be dealing with the Nuggets or the Clippers.

480
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: At least Cleveland might start a little earlier. But it's

481
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 3: gotta be weird. You know, you're playing four games a

482
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Speaker 3: week for six straight months and then suddenly you're just

483
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: chilling yeah, for a little bit, but they completely destroyed him.

484
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: I think they used Tyler Hero as motivation. After Game two,

485
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: he was calling out Darius Garland. They were picking on

486
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: him to begin with. Then Darius Garland calls him out.

487
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: Then he calls out Darius Garland. They sit Darius Garland

488
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Speaker 3: with a legitimate injury. It sounds like his toe is

489
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: bothering him. And then in two Miami games, Tyler Hero

490
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: goes for seventeen points on six of twenty three field

491
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Speaker 3: ghost shooting with four assists in four turnovers. Like afterwards,

492
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 3: he was begging for Jimmy Butler to come back. Embarrassing

493
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: stuff for the Heat, like a disappointing end to the season.

494
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Speaker 3: They scrapped to even get in the first ten seed

495
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Speaker 3: to ever make it to the playoffs, and we see why. Yeah,

496
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 3: yeah they were a ten seed. They looked like it.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to forget that. Game two was sorta close.

498
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean it was a two point game late for

499
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: a second, yeah, and then bam bam. I am shocked

500
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: that Miami Heat fans were still there. I was watching

501
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 2: the in game arena feed and they were still pumping

502
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: it out in the fourth. They're still there still excited.

503
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: He's copying the Atlanta Hawks moves amongst fans. But up

504
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: up until the the nosebleeds, they're all there. I was

505
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: shot Heath fans, no joke.

506
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: Oh they arrived forty minutes late, so you might as

507
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Speaker 1: well stick around.

508
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: Get your money's worth.

509
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Speaker 1: They deserve their money. Just back last night.

510
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 2: That was bad.

511
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Speaker 1: They should have refunded their tickets. I'm not even kidding.

512
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,239
Speaker 1: That was a pathetic effort. I know the Cavs were

513
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: kick their ass and they've won thirty more games of them.

514
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: I get that, but like from the jump, like it

515
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: was sloppy. They can't Tyler Herroll can't run a fast break.

516
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: The guy cannot run a fast break. Three or four

517
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: times in this game they had three on ones or

518
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: at least three on twos, and he would make the

519
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: wrong decision every time. It was like, what is going on?

520
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: So they were mentally checked out and okay, but it's

521
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 1: not the first time we've seen a team down three

522
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: to zero, sort of like wave the white flag, but

523
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: like right like in the first three minutes, it's weird

524
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: to see it fifteen to three and then it's like, okay,

525
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: you'll get back in the game the NBA. No, it

526
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: was thirty five to eight.

527
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Speaker 3: You'll never get back.

528
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Speaker 1: It's forty three seventeen at the end of the first quarter.

529
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Speaker 1: Then it's seventy to twenty five at one point. That's

530
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Speaker 1: like twenty two minutes into the game, seventy to twenty five.

531
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Speaker 3: Ernie Johnson called it the worst game I've ever seen

532
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: at halftime. Yeah, you'll never see Ernie Johnson take a

533
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: shot at the NBA's product like that. That was amazing. Yeah,

534
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: He's right, it was bad.

535
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Speaker 2: It was bad. Yeah, and Trey brings up a good

536
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Speaker 2: point about Tyler Hero just not performing in both Game

537
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Speaker 2: three and Game four. I mean, the team just faded

538
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: away because he wasn't there to help lead. It's a

539
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: new world for Tyler Hero being the number one guy.

540
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: It's very different.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he was bad. I mean, I guess Bam

542
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: was nothing special in this series after a really sort

543
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: of disappointing season for him overall. Andrew Wiggins, remember when

544
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Speaker 1: people were trying to tell you Andrew Wiggins is maybe

545
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Speaker 1: just as good as Jimmy Butler. Do you remember that,

546
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Speaker 1: I do. That was the thing people were saying. He

547
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: averaged eleven and a half points per game. He shot

548
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: thirty seven percent more turnovers than assists and was like

549
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: a I mean, Tyler Hero was like ten times better

550
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: than Andrew Wiggins. That's what I'm saying something right there.

551
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

552
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: I don't know. He was one for ten last night.

553
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, overall in the series, take a look at Wiggins.

554
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: It's garbage anyway. They're completely outclassed. And I think it

555
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: was Ken's Parker. There was like a calf's blowby at

556
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: some point in the first half and she's like, this

557
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: is a cone drill. It was a mobiley dunk. It

558
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, one little pump biking around got out

559
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: of hand in a hurry. So now Cleveland will play

560
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: either Indiana or Milwaukee in the Eastern Conference semifinals. Pacers obviously,

561
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: up three to one, could close it out tonight. That

562
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: won't start until Saturday though, at the earliest, no matter

563
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: what happens, like even if Indy wraps it up tonight,

564
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: so that will be a bit of a gap there.

565
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: It's only Tuesday, right, it is only Tuesday.

566
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Speaker 3: It's only Tuesday. Cleveland is chilling. I think they we

567
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: talked it yesterday. How impressive was okay, see and there's

568
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: weep of the Grizzly. They were okay. I think we

569
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 3: all agreed. You know, they did win one of their games,

570
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: lay fifty. They had a twenty nine point comeback. That's

571
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: pretty sweet. Their defense was NonStop. Cleveland, I do think

572
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: was taking care of business impressive in this series. Three

573
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: of these were blowout games. They shot forty four percent

574
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 3: from three for the entire series. Mitchell was killing when

575
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 3: he was in ty. Jerome had his moment that Ben

576
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: turned into everybody else on the Cavs bench being able

577
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: to have their moments. Mobley and Allen were both really good.

578
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: The only concern, literally is Darius Garland, who now gets

579
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of extra time off. They said he

580
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: basically didn't skip these two games because of rest. He

581
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 3: was really hurt. You know, they really want his toe

582
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: to heel up. But now he gets a chance to

583
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: have his tow heel up because the next series is

584
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: going to be a lot tougher for Cleveland.

585
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: Anything else that on this No, I was just surprised

586
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: that Andrew Wigans played twenty minutes yesterday. That's the weird thing.

587
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: If you're just gonna run up and down the floor,

588
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: I might as well do it for another ten minutes.

589
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: That was the weird thing. I mean it was Yeah,

590
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: that's that was odd.

591
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Speaker 1: It was so bad, and it was weird to hear

592
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: Ernie Johnson say that at half quote this might be

593
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: the worst game I've ever watched end quote. I wrote

594
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: it down because I was like, Yeah, I was like,

595
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: whoa Ernie saying? That's one thing? Is Chuck laughing about it? Yeah, exactly,

596
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: laughing about even Kenny Ernie.

597
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: They did pattern for Kenny's pictures. Yeah, they weren't doing anything.

598
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: They're They're like, finally we get to really mail it in.

599
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the most cooked. Yeah, there is nothing

600
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: to actually talk about from the game, so let's just

601
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: have some laughs.

602
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 3: What do you think about the Heats core going forward?

603
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: Like literally it's Bam Hero and Khalil wear a core.

604
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: That's it's a core seed or a ninth seed core. Yeah,

605
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: that the.

606
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: Bobby Marks core. They're big three for their what do

607
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: they do this offseason? They got the number twenty pick,

608
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 3: they got three tradable first and they have some tradable

609
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: contracts right right, But this team after the Jimmy Butler

610
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: trade was one of the worst offenses in the league.

611
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: And okay, defensively, they blew like fifteen games in the

612
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: fourth quarter where they're giving up ten point leads. It

613
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: was disgusting for the Miami Heat the last half of

614
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: the season. So they're a team that doesn't like to

615
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 3: stay in the middle for a long time, and they

616
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: have been in the play in Tournament year after year

617
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: after year. They got worse this year. So I wonder

618
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: what they look like next season.

619
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Speaker 1: I mean, Bam after the game basically was saying, this

620
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: team's gonna look way different. This is gonna be a

621
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: different Heat team next year. So I think they're all

622
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: assuming it's gonna be like some big changes here, and

623
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: it should be, because this is not a good team

624
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: currently constructed.

625
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Bobby Marks noted that the core was that

626
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: hero Bam and Khalil Ware, I thought Andrew Waian's not

627
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: under contract. I mean they just consider him. Bobby considers

628
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: him not part of this team. Frankly, he has signed

629
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: for another two years. Terry Rose Ears also signed for

630
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: a monster twenty six million, so they are paid like

631
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: they're part of the cores. And Wiggins obviously needs incredible

632
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: leadership to be a helper guy. Yeah, so it ain't

633
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: Golden State anymore and so's Yeah, it's a totally different atmosphere.

634
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: Is Tyler Herro going to be able to jump in

635
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: another level and be a leader? I read the article

636
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: on The Athletic about that, Jerry Vice breaking it down.

637
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: What do we got here? What do we got in

638
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero? It's a great question. So far, so bad.

639
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: We'll see if this helps him just being a number

640
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: one guy.

641
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: You talked about a couple teams like going to carry

642
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: the off season here for us, the Heat were on

643
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: that list, what Milwaukee Bucks, the Grizzly Hawks, sons maybe

644
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: still with their decisions and Kevin Durant. Yeah, so there's

645
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: a lot of teams sort of at this crossroads like

646
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: what the hell are we where we go in and

647
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: you got to like maybe really tear it down or

648
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: really pivot. So we'll see what Miami does here. As

649
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: for Cleveland, like do you think they care at all

650
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: who they play in a second round? Like are they

651
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: are they fingers crossed for Milwaukee Bucks come back? Or

652
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, let's try and take on the Pacers again?

653
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Like what do you think I mean they'd rather play

654
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: the Bucks. But I think they're scouting the Pacers right now.

655
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. And the way that they

656
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: were able to hit so many freaking threes in this series.

657
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: They got to feel good against Indiana. They get to

658
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: feel good period, right period. But yeah, they'd rather play

659
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: the Bucks for sure, and they can outscore them, there's

660
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: no doubt.

661
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Bucks, Damian Lillard is done for the

662
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: season after being diagnosed with a torn left achilles tendon.

663
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: The MRI revealed the severity of the injury. It's gonna

664
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: end dame season here. The rest of the playoffs also

665
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: puts next season in jeopardy due to the extended recovery

666
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: because what is that. That's usually an eight to twelve

667
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: month recovery timeline with an achilles tear like this, and

668
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: he is older, he's gonna be I think he turns

669
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: thirty five in July, so you know, very likely missing

670
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: the early part of next season and who knows how

671
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: much more. But yeah, what we thought was true TK

672
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: that sure looked like a torn achilles tendon and it was.

673
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and you could tell from Dame's reaction to

674
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: that was probably what was gonna be. They wanted to

675
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: do all their testing, though apparently there's a like a

676
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: palpitator palpating sort of test that basically tells you what's

677
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: going to happen. So people knew what was going to happen,

678
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: and it's such a hard thing to recover from that.

679
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: Maybe this doesn't end Damian Lillard's career. He's still got

680
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: a contract next season fifty four million in twenty five

681
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: to twenty six, with the player option for fifty eight

682
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: million in twenty six twenty seven. I think would be

683
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: cool to see Damian Lillard on the court again, but

684
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: this definitely is the twilight of Dame's career and the

685
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: Bucks have to have a lot of questions going into

686
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: the offseason. This is the first time since twenty seventeen

687
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: that they didn't host their first round playoff series, no

688
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: home court advantage. They've lost in the first round three

689
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: straight seasons. A lot of that has been due to injuries,

690
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: but the Bucks still haven't looked like a championship contender,

691
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: and never really did this season, never really did last season,

692
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: if we're being quite honest, after the Adrian Griffin move,

693
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: so I think DOC will be a decision. They just

694
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: extended John Horst, Doc was very complimentary about him. They

695
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: seem aligned, but who knows what's going to happen. And

696
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: then the big question is what does Giannis want to do.

697
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: They're not gonna trade him unless you'hanna says trade me?

698
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: Will he say so? He says he wants to win

699
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: a second championship. He said it on his brother's podcast.

700
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: He was very adamant on his brother's podcast. I'll want

701
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: that second championship.

702
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: And he did tell the Times that back in twenty three,

703
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: same thing exactly, but that was before they traded for Dame.

704
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: That's they traded for Dame. He signed the extension. Clock

705
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: is ticking now and it doesn't look like there's many

706
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 3: ways for the Bucks to get better. So I don't

707
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: know what they're gonna do.

708
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they went and traded Damian Lillard, they gave

709
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: up a ton. After giving up a ton for Drew Holiday,

710
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: after digging in their heels and signing Chris Middleton and

711
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: Brook Lopez to deals, they're at a point where they

712
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: can't do all that much. You look at their numbers

713
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: next year, it's fifty four for Janni's, fifty four for

714
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard. That they got to pay no matter what.

715
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: And then their next best player is Kyle Kuzma. So

716
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: you're at a point here where you're looking at it,

717
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: and if you're Giannis and you're saying, Okay, I'm gonna stay,

718
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: you're hoping that the summer plan for Kyle Kuzmas to

719
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: make him become a new player, because otherwise, literally what

720
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: is there to play. I mean, Jannis moving to the

721
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: center spot, okay, and letting Brooke go and maybe signing

722
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: Kevin Porter Junior back and hoping him Kuzma and Kevin

723
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: Porter Junior can be entirely different. Obviously that doesn't sound

724
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: all that great, but it is up to Jannis, did

725
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: the goopo if he wants to move on or not?

726
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 2: Does he want to be Dirk Novisky type of thing

727
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: where he won a title in Dallas and for the

728
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: next eight seasons they only got to the playoffs and

729
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: didn't win a thing. They didn't win another playoff series

730
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: for the rest of Dark's career. It is weird, think, Yeah,

731
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: it is weird. Yanis did win a playoff series the

732
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: year following the championship, but since he's been injured, frankly,

733
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: he wasn't there lost.

734
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: Somebody has been injured, right, Chris Middleton, he missed that

735
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: entire second game series.

736
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: Yet semifinals, yeah yeah, yeah, twice the last two. So

737
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: you know, when they get eliminated by the Pacers, it's

738
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: three years back to back back of him not surpassing

739
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: in the first freaking round. So that's it's up to

740
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: him if he wants to just be loyal to the

741
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks or he wants to say I want to

742
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: be somewhere else. Frankly, it's it's it's strictly up to

743
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: him because it's going to take some time for Milwaukee

744
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: to do it. They can't just say, okay, here's the calculations,

745
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: we're just going to go sign a big time player.

746
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: They can't. I mean, then they can pay the non

747
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: tax put player mL E for twelve million next year.

748
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: That's about it.

749
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: But I don't even I'm not even sure even if

750
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: they get a disabled player exception for Damian Lillard. I mean,

751
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: that's going to take them up to the apron most likely.

752
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: So I don't even know if they want to spend that.

753
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: They're just not going to get better for a while.

754
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: And the big problem here, of course, they don't own

755
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: any of their first round picks until two thousand thirty one,

756
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: I think is right, and they have very few, I mean,

757
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: if any, for being completely honest, like young cheap talent

758
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: really on their roster that they've cultivated. You brought up

759
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: the Brooklynez what he's like thirty seven, he's not even

760
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: under contract next season. There's that question mark. And then yeah,

761
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma is there, but that's been a disaster since

762
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: they traded for you know, Chris Middleton for him, Yeah,

763
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: and it just hasn't worked out, and like a lot

764
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: of people may be expected, So yeah, what do they do?

765
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: It just comes down to what does Jannis want to do.

766
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: Because if Janna says, all right, let's go, then where

767
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: does that. Obviously a lot of teams will line up

768
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: to like try and still make a trade for you, honest,

769
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: guy's still in his prime. Oh yeah, and obviously he

770
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: was like competitive enough as hell, and he was one

771
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: of the best players in the world that like a

772
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: lot of teams would try and go for it, and

773
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: you could get a nice return back. You're never gonna

774
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: get like equal value for your honest, no, but you're

775
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: gonna maybe like.

776
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: Keys, Yeah, and they didn't. They don't have that because

777
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 3: the thing with Willard was maybe, okay, imagine Lillard is healthy.

778
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: The Bucks just don't beat the Pacers, and it's another

779
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: disappointing end to the season. Three straight first round losses.

780
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: That's bad. If everybody's healthy, maybe then the Bucks could

781
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: be like, all right, well we're gonna move Damian Lillard.

782
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: We don't get back what we traded for him, but

783
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: maybe we get some pay that we can then use

784
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: to do something else. Now they don't even have that

785
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: option because who's really gonna trade for Damian Lillard? So

786
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: the only real reset button the Bucks have now is

787
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: trading Gianness, which that could be a reset that takes

788
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: twenty years. That's literally what happened after they traded Kareem

789
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: as well, so who knows what happens. It's crazy. I

790
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 3: wonder if they're considering trading Damian Lillard for Bradley Beal

791
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 3: next season. Who else is going to trade for Bradley Beal?

792
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: So if you're the Sons, you're like, at least we're

793
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: getting something, and if you're the Bucks, you're like, at

794
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 3: least Beale can play, right, It sounds like a dumb trade,

795
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: but like, literally, what else are they gonna do? This

796
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: is get a disabled player exception for fifty four million

797
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: dollars and use it on who you know?

798
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that means Dame's not playing at all next year.

799
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: But here's the question, would the Sons do that? There's

800
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: the crazy question. Would the Sons want to take on

801
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard? Because at least Bradley Beal can play. I mean,

802
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: they're both signed to the exact term, same term. I

803
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: do believe David one plus an option. Ye, I wonder

804
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: if they would. That's the weird thing.

805
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: Well, the betting odds have the Nets as the favorites

806
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: to land Jannis if he's not with the Bucks next season.

807
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: I're pretty close to a championship minus two hundred.

808
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: Then it's the Spurs plus three two five, Lakers plus

809
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: four fifty, He plus five hundred, and our Toronto Raptors.

810
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, Missi Cheri loves him, to be honest, plus

811
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred. Where do you there? You go?

812
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: There's a great Greek community in Toronto, great international community

813
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: in Toronto. He'd love it there. I wonder what's going

814
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: through yans his head. I'll never I'll never be able

815
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: to guess, but I do think maybe he's considering he's

816
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: thirty years old. He was injured for last year's postseason,

817
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: didn't play the year before that. He was also injured

818
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: for part of the postseason, So he may be thinking thirty, Okay,

819
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 2: I'm one of the better players in the world, there's

820
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. But how many more postseasons do

821
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: I have here? And so maybe he's got to say,

822
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: even though I'm signed in Milwaukee for two years plus

823
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: an option three years, he could just stay there and

824
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: say to John Horst, all right, I'll stay here for

825
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: the rest of my contract. He needs to do it

826
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: right here, right now and be urgent about it.

827
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: That's sort of what he has told us a couple

828
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: of times.

829
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: He does talk about his body. He does. Even when

830
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: he was on Finesse to Kompo's podcast, he did say

831
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: something about his his body being injured. He doesn't know

832
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: how many times.

833
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: He has left.

834
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, if I if I do have my podcast correct,

835
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: if I do my fanalytics analysis correctly, that's yeah. I

836
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know what he wants. Does he

837
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: need to win right here, right now where it will

838
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: end up being very Dirknovitsky like it feels like it's

839
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 2: gonna be forever. It's gonna be forever. That they're gonna

840
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: be average at best.

841
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, if you have Giannis on your team, you're

842
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: always gonna be yeah, average two above average, no matter

843
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: who else is on your team, at least in his prime.

844
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just so weird, but they their next six

845
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: draft picks. Three are gone, and they do have three.

846
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: They do still have their three, but they can be swapped.

847
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: They got traded for pitch swaps. So you just got

848
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: to be hope that you got to hope that the

849
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: team that could swap is also bad in that situation, right, Like,

850
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: you still do get a pick.

851
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying you can't use any of those

852
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: picks to trade.

853
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: No, because of this site, you just got to hope

854
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: you get a you know, Coop.

855
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: I wonder if where Giannis ends up depends on whether

856
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: or not the Oklahoma City Thunder win the title this season?

857
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: Could it? If they do, you think Gianness is going

858
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,479
Speaker 3: to join the Thunder if he wants to win a title,

859
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: he might please please know?

860
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Well, okay, why is that so crazy? I mean, if

861
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: he wants that that's a Kevin Durant move.

862
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: That a honest move, if you ask me.

863
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: But it's okay, Well we'll see if OKC wins the title,

864
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: is my point, then like you can sort of like

865
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: cross it off the list regardless because they're like, you're

866
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: not going to blow up a team that just won

867
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: the championship with all that young talent. I wouldn't think, right.

868
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: Well, talk to me about the Rockets rather than Thunder.

869
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: I'd rather hear their pitch.

870
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: The Rockets.

871
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: They've got it you young players. I mean, Jalen Green

872
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: ain't covering himself in glory right now, but they've got

873
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: interesting young they got a ton of picks as well.

874
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: And they aren't the best team in the league.

875
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: Right Okay.

876
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

877
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: He's all I'm hearing is like he's like, God, damn,

878
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: I'd like to not be the best guy maybe all

879
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: the time on my team. I'm tired of dragging all

880
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: these bumps. Somebody helped me out. I want to win

881
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: a title. This only cares about. He literally has said

882
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: it so many times. I want to win a second title.

883
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: One in a second title.

884
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: Well, look at how that went for Kevin Durant. All

885
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: he wanted to do is win a title, and he

886
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: joined the best team in the league. And people don't

887
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: give him a ton of credit for those titles. No, no,

888
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: you get a lot more if you go for the Rockets.

889
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: A little different. He's already got the one. I mean,

890
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: this is where it's different than the Kevin Garden. Its

891
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: situation with Minnesota too, which a lot of people bring up. Obviously,

892
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: he left after twelve years, and he always says, I

893
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: wish I left earlier to try and get more titles.

894
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: God Is won in Boston, but again, Joannis has one

895
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: did that in Milwaukee.

896
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll never know what Yas is thinking, but

897
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: I do know he still wants to be regardless of

898
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: what he says on the analysis that he wants to

899
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: be a number one a guy at the very least

900
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: like do a lot.

901
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the team he goes to besides Yo Kitchen,

902
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: the Nuggets, he's going to be the one guy than

903
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: one A guy. That's not an issue, but he wants

904
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: more help. He wants to actually compete. Now, going to

905
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: the Western Conference might be a dumb decision. Stay in

906
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: the East if you can dictate where you go.

907
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I doubt he wants to go to a team

908
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: that was sixty eight and fourteen this year. I think

909
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: he just wants more of a challenge in.

910
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: His life, you know, challenge stay in Milwaukee.

911
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: That's a big challenging.

912
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well we'll have lots more time to

913
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: talk about that, I'm sure. And maybe he'll come out

914
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: and just squash this. I guess he could, Right, you

915
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: can just come out and say no, I want to

916
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: be here. He could, I want to be here forever.

917
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's going to do that. And

918
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: he hadn't done that, and he did the right thing.

919
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: He did the superstar move of always applying pressure on

920
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: the front office to make drastic moves get more talent

921
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: in here. Obviously the Drew Holiday one working the best.

922
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's very you know, Lebron, David Griffin, Cavs

923
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: like where they had to put in as much as

924
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: they could and now they got nothing left. At this point,

925
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: they're just going to be mediocre. Yeah, those those us

926
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: I got him, man Kuzma got him. All these efforts

927
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: have not paid off, unfortunately, especially Lillard has not worked out.

928
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: Got some awards for you guys, None of the big,

929
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: big ones. But Steph Curry named the twenty twenty four

930
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: to twenty five Twyman Stokes Teammate of the Year. This

931
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: one recognizes the player deem the best teammate based on

932
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: selfless play, leadership as a mentor and role model to

933
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: other NBA players, and commitment to his team. So he

934
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: got sixty six first place votes in this. It's funny

935
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: how they decide this too. Current NBA players vote for

936
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: the winner, choosing from a list of twelve finalists, six

937
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: from each conference, who were chosen by a panel of

938
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: league executives. So they give you, like the pool six

939
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: in each conference, and then the players vote. But it

940
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: was very close vote. He just beat Steven Adams, So

941
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: Curry gets.

942
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: It done well. Steven Adams, Yeah, the guy. Interesting. Yeah,

943
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: that's the interesting thing to me. I think this, I

944
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 3: don't know. I literally don't know, And I didn't look

945
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: up the history because why would I do that. It

946
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: feels like this goes the role players more often than

947
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: the face of the league. Yeah, yeah, but this was

948
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: pretty funny considering ESPN's own Young Missuck put out an

949
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: article yesterday about the Curry, Draymond Jimmy Warriors the last ride,

950
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: and there's some actually very good Steph Curry is an

951
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: awesome teammate. Nuggets in there like him, Draymond and Jimmy

952
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: are the last guys playing poker at Steph Curry's birthday party.

953
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 3: He says, yeah, that's because we're all degenerate poker players.

954
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 3: It was a fun time though. All throughout the years,

955
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: you have certain moments where you get everybody together intentionally

956
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: and have a good time. It was a good kind

957
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 3: of jump off point for the rest of the year.

958
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: Guy will host an event, a block party for everybody.

959
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: Sure Joe on Survivor building the bonfire out on the

960
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: beach just for fun, gets everybody on the same page.

961
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 3: He's also allowed Jimmy Butler to run with this Batman

962
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: and Robin nickname thing that he's doing. He says, Jimmy's

963
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 3: taking the liberty to create a new nickname that he

964
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: didn't run by me, which is beautiful because it means

965
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: he's bought in. He's here. I love that it's filtered

966
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: on down. Yeah, now we got Buddy Healed calling himself Alfred.

967
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: After game three, Butler said he gets to play Robin.

968
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: That's my Batman. We got all the villains over there,

969
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: two face Joker, Riddler, everybody else in the Western Conference.

970
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, Nicole Jokic is the Joker? Yep,

971
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: Jay Giljos Alexander's two face okay, hyphenated name. I didn't

972
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: know who the Riddler was, though, why I do?

973
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: The Riddler is a bigger personality than who's the Who's

974
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: the most quiet villain? That would be a good one,

975
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: obviously for Kawhi chime in here if you got an answer.

976
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: In the rogues gallery? Yeah, Scarecrow does Scarecrow talk?

977
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

978
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not well versed in the DC, you know,

979
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm alright, is there anybody that wears a mask in

980
00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: the Western Conference? Always? That would be Bane? Okay, yeah,

981
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: he's bad right now, I'm gooder is who was Jimmy

982
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 3: Butler calling the Riddler?

983
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: Ant? Is the Riddler ignious?

984
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

985
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm on board with that.

986
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: I love it.

987
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: So then who's Yeah, who's Lebron and Luca of all

988
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: of this? Because they got to be somebody?

989
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be somebody.

990
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: You got anything to add on on Curry here being Teammate.

991
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 2: Of the Year, Well, I think all the guys who

992
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: are nominated I didn't realize that was that was the situation.

993
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: They all got to hang out and whether they go

994
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: to a survivor type of island, but just you know,

995
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: just hang out and say, whoa, why are you such

996
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: a great teammate?

997
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: All the ones nominated. I put him in a house.

998
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: Just great teammates.

999
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: That should be the new starting five Netflix series.

1000
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: Something like that. Just talk about each other, just live

1001
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: their great moments. I'm awesome. Al Horford, you would obviously

1002
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: be there. He wasn't nominated. Huh, wow, he should be.

1003
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: I guess he wasn't.

1004
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum said Al Horford was or sorry, Al Horford

1005
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: is my best teammate that I've ever had.

1006
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: Wow.

1007
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: After they won the championship. Sounds like.

1008
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: Mike Conley's always in the mix for this two holiday meets.

1009
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: He's got three. I didn't even know that. Actually, this

1010
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: mostly stars almost all stars.

1011
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you're thinking of this next one, which usually goes

1012
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: to a role player, and that is Draymond Green, though

1013
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean still a star. He was announced on Friday

1014
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: as winner of the twenty twenty four to twenty five

1015
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: NBA Hustle Award, the award, which was first given out

1016
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen seventeen honors players who make the effort

1017
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: plays that don't often appear in the traditional box score,

1018
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: but impact winning on a nightly basis. And yeah, this one,

1019
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: more times than not has gone to maybe more of

1020
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: a role player. Obviously defensive minded guy, not that Draymond isn't,

1021
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: but he is like a multiple time All Star All

1022
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: NBA guy, and he got it done. Draymond Green tasks,

1023
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: you want to know the stats that they're.

1024
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: Watching, hustle stats. I had no exist exactly what they are.

1025
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: Charges drawn ranks sixth in his per minute stats. They

1026
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: have per one minute stats, ain't per thirty six just

1027
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: per one minute he will draw point zero zero seven

1028
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: to one charges. What he ranks fifteenth in deflections, twenty

1029
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: second in screen assists? You think he'd be higher?

1030
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit.

1031
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: Contested two point shots pretty good, thirteenth contested three point

1032
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: shots second, that's good. That's fricking good. Offensive loose balls recovered?

1033
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: What do you think he ranks and the four hundred.

1034
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: And fifty players, he's top forty.

1035
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 3: I know that offensive loose balls.

1036
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: I bet he's he's probably twelve, Yeah, thirty ninth.

1037
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: He's always getting back on defense, I understand.

1038
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: Defensive loose balls recovered, he gets some, well, thirty six,

1039
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: that's not that's not as good as I expected either.

1040
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 2: Offensive box outs what thirty second? Defensive box outs tenth? Okay,

1041
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: he's good for that, so he's it. I couldn't believe

1042
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: that they named top five finishers and Dyson Daniels was

1043
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 2: so freaking low. You'd think Dyson would be higher because

1044
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: he led the league in deflections, yeah, by far, and

1045
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: in steals by far, but those don't count that all

1046
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: other stuff. Yeah, never boxing out on offense, it is

1047
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: surprising to see Draymond Green, then Cason Wallace, gershan Yabusele,

1048
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: third Lou Dart and Dyson Daniels.

1049
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: Some good box outseason for I did love the line

1050
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: in the NBA's announcement about Draymond While he did not

1051
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: lead a specific hustle stat Green ranked in the top

1052
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: fifteen and five categories, and of course became the first

1053
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: winner in the awards history to rank in the top

1054
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: forty in all nine hustle category. That's a classic.

1055
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Put it on the Hall of Fame player, That's why

1056
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: I knew it was top forty.

1057
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 3: Wow, first guy to be top forty in all nine

1058
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: a nine category player.

1059
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Green gets the Hustle Award, and uh, Marcus

1060
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: Smart won a lot of these, did he not?

1061
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Yea three time or maybe?

1062
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he won a lot of them for sure.

1063
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 3: I don't know who else is last year? Caruso okay,

1064
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: Montres Harrell of course, Okay, Patrick Beverley, you want them all?

1065
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm here, Johnson and Fad Young fatteus.

1066
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah here Johnson's a bit of a surprise. Okay. Uh

1067
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: he's boxing us this consolation for d p O I

1068
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: at all like a little bit a little bit?

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00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, why not?

1070
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: It's a little head And on what do they get

1071
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: for this? Did that guy make another crappy trophy for this?

1072
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1073
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: Did Victor do it?

1074
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: Awarded Victor?

1075
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: Or is it a smaller sort of little plaque or

1076
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know. I haven't seen it.

1077
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: If it is, I don't know what g I Joe

1078
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: character that. Oh my god, this guy?

1079
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: What is that? That's not it?

1080
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: That's that's that's the total that's going to okay see baby?

1081
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: All right. So a couple of awards there to the Warriors,

1082
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: uh star players in Curry and Green and we do

1083
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: have more major awards? I guess this week, right, we

1084
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: should find out some of these. Maybe maybe save an

1085
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: MVP for later.

1086
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: What else do we have this week? Okay, so he's

1087
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: not playing this week.

1088
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. That doesn't mean they can't give it

1089
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: to him. They could do the whole press conference thing

1090
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: and stuff.

1091
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: Like that, but they do it later. More people are

1092
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: watching the later we go in the playoffs. We haven't

1093
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: that's what the ratings say.

1094
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: We haven't done most Improved yet.

1095
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1096
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: We haven't done a coach yet.

1097
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: We did six man, we did six men, rookie and rookie. Yeah,

1098
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: Executive of the Year of course.

1099
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: Sure a right. We got four games on tonight, as

1100
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: we joked about off the top of the show, three

1101
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: of which are elimination games. Bucks Pacers on NBA TV,

1102
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Indie up three one, Piston's Nicks on TNT, Nicks up

1103
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: three to one, Magic Celtics Boston up three to one.

1104
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: That's back on NBA TV, and then Clippers Nuggets, so

1105
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: that's the big one. We got a pivotal game five,

1106
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: that's right, that series tied to to will we get

1107
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: the Jamal Murray g tonight? Of those ones that can

1108
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: end tonight though, Rank them for me, trade like most

1109
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: likely to end in five games to least likely of

1110
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: those first three series I threw out you.

1111
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: I think pretty easy. I think Boston is over tonight. Okay, yeah,

1112
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: I think they ended. They got the home game, they're

1113
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: up three to one. Should be a Celtics win.

1114
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

1115
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 3: Next most likely to end it, I guess is New York?

1116
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: Right?

1117
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah's interesting, right, they got the home court advantage. I

1118
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: think that's big though. These games feel like they've been

1119
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: a toss up. And then obviously the Knicks got a

1120
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: little bit of a gift with the tim hardaway foul

1121
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: or nonfoul I should say in Game four. And then

1122
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: Milwaukee Indiana. I'm still holding out hope for like a

1123
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: crazy Giannis game. You know, I am favoring Indiana certainly,

1124
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: but I still got a lot of respect for Giannis

1125
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: to go and have a fifty point game or something crazy.

1126
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that could happen, but they could still lose. That's

1127
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: a good point. They have other guys just missing layups unfortunately.

1128
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's had a great series, not so much

1129
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: for the box. Yeah, Pacers, I think is done. Celtics.

1130
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: I think is done as well. The next Pistons that

1131
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: should be a good one, very very good.

1132
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: I think that will be the most competitive maybe of

1133
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: those three ones here. And then Clippers Nuggets. I mean,

1134
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: you got any any idea how this one goes? Does

1135
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: it end in a three point game or something like that,

1136
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: a potential game winning game? No, this is Denver home,

1137
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: Denver home game.

1138
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the four seed. I think they win comfortably, not

1139
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: blowout like an eight pointer.

1140
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Twelve interesting despite for the most part, like Clippers have

1141
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: outplayed them for a majority of the season. Or excuse me,

1142
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: serious with but Westbrook obviously Game one, his heroics and

1143
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: then what we saw game four, the Aaron Gordon game

1144
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: winning buzzer beating alley youp but really offensive rebound? Yeah? Crazy?

1145
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: Or do you believe it was a pass?

1146
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: Pass it?

1147
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: People are getting upset with me the other day.

1148
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: That was a pass?

1149
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 1: I really don't think that was a pass. I don't,

1150
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't, but yeah, Johnny on the spot. Okay, anyway,

1151
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: we're excited. We'll be back here tomorrow to talk about

1152
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: those four games and any other news. Hopefully you'll join us.

1153
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: Then hopefully this was a classic hit the like button subscribe,

1154
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. Until then, Clipper Bros,

1155
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: you heard it.

1156
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: Here first, have a great time, turn up, love you guys. Awesome.

1157
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember there's four games on tonight.

1158
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: Crazy was its baseball? What is this baseball? Yeah? I

1159
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: guess it's baseball.

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Speaker 1: Race today people,