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Speaker 6: We want to give love to our legends.
Speaker 1: We want to give love to people.
Speaker 6: That sometimes has been forgotten about or sometimes because you
Speaker 6: get to a certain level or you do so much
Speaker 6: things people say but that's.
Speaker 1: In hip hop. We got to change that. We actually
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones goes on tour right now. What's the nigga
Speaker 1: name them?
Speaker 6: Niggas they go on tour right now, why is hip
Speaker 6: hop not celebrated in the same exact way. The older
Speaker 6: you get and then you know what the crazy shit is.
Speaker 3: The older you get, they accept you more in Europe.
Speaker 1: Like in Europe, but this is the birthplace of hip hop.
Speaker 6: So right now, I am so privileged, so happy to
Speaker 6: big up two brothers that I want to put in
Speaker 6: the hip Hop Hall of Fame me personally, because I
Speaker 6: feel like hip hop needs a Hall of fame.
Speaker 1: Fuck this rock and roll Hall of Fame. Bullshit, We
Speaker 1: ain't rock and roll.
Speaker 3: We gotta relax, even though even though even though it
Speaker 3: is it is actually like it is like like a
Speaker 3: big up to be in a rock and roll all
Speaker 3: but we said with Russell, holler at me, Russell, because
Speaker 3: I feel like we should do a hip hop Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame. And if the hip hop Hall of Fame,
Speaker 3: what's to happen these two brothers.
Speaker 1: This is right here from the Bronx, because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a Bronx. Guy. I know the world don't know
Speaker 1: that we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna, we'renna establish that today.
Speaker 6: These two brothers chi LEI first off the first child
Speaker 6: star in hip hop period period.
Speaker 1: I've seen this man come up. I thought it was
Speaker 1: quart of weekend. In my mind, you're not good here.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. You're not good here. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You definitely make some way. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get to that.
Speaker 6: And then this other brother that stay right outside me,
Speaker 6: to the right of me. I see his hunger, I
Speaker 6: seen his struggle. I seen him battle artist on the street.
Speaker 6: Then I seen him have an unfortunate situation and he
Speaker 6: never complained about it. And that's one of the most
Speaker 6: beautifulest things is that you could have complained about it,
Speaker 6: and you could have been like, fuck, it could have
Speaker 6: been better, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: And you know what, Chili and my song is.
Speaker 3: Nothing else I would love to do is to big
Speaker 3: y'all brothers up right.
Speaker 1: Now and R drink chaff DJ. I gotta get I
Speaker 1: gotta go straight to you because.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say controversy, but I want to
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 1: It has been a recent interview.
Speaker 6: Right A brother says something and you re buddled that statement.
Speaker 6: But the most be the fust thing about what you
Speaker 6: did was you never hated.
Speaker 1: You just was honest and you spoke your.
Speaker 3: Opinion and real niggas world why.
Speaker 1: Text each other and say you see mice. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you got to text and I got to text.
Speaker 1: So what I want to ask you is what made
Speaker 1: you take that stand because you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: It just you know, like you said, man, real niggas worldwide.
Speaker 3: I think like people keep saying real Niggas is back,
Speaker 3: and like we was having a conversation, like we never
Speaker 3: really went nowhere. But the problem is is that most
Speaker 3: of us are silent. We just don't even see the
Speaker 3: need to check you that we know it's fake because
Speaker 3: we don't realize that the rest of the world don't.
Speaker 1: Know it's fake. You're right because they've been fed fake
Speaker 1: shit so long that they've it's real.
Speaker 3: So me watching this and then actually you reading comments
Speaker 3: and people are like, Yo, this is the really ship
Speaker 3: you And I'm reading this and I'm like, how could
Speaker 3: this like what is real about this to you? Like
Speaker 3: somewhere somewhere along the way there's been some type of
Speaker 3: the translation got sucked up. For what really translation the
Speaker 3: real translation is fucked up.
Speaker 1: So I felt like being PM, I got fun job
Speaker 1: to stop you. But what's that a real Champagne Nigga
Speaker 1: ship right there? Not a spell, not all.
Speaker 5: Didn't look at the grap look at the graph that
Speaker 5: you know, I've been a pais, you know, continued, I'm
Speaker 5: so sorry.
Speaker 1: That was a big myself. You know, for a second
Speaker 1: I thought I thought I was gonna do that. We
Speaker 1: need Yes, it's called you got to learn this and
Speaker 1: you can't bring.
Speaker 4: You about it because you know what the most important
Speaker 4: part about it was, Mice.
Speaker 1: Was I looked in your eyes, looked at your face,
Speaker 1: and I looked at every time you spoke, and it
Speaker 1: was not hate. This was not hate.
Speaker 3: But that's that's the new word for you just expressing
Speaker 3: some ship when you're not when you go against the
Speaker 3: status disagreement, when you disagree that it's just the dumbest
Speaker 3: shit in the world. I asked people like you hate
Speaker 3: you hating, And I'm like, okay, so what are you
Speaker 3: doing when you coming on what I'm saying. You have
Speaker 3: an opinion about what I say, and you have the
Speaker 3: right to express that. I don't think you hating. You
Speaker 3: got your opinion. You don't even know me, never see
Speaker 3: me a day in life. But something I said made
Speaker 3: you feel like you needed to respond. So why you
Speaker 3: feel someway about me feeling the same way you.
Speaker 1: Feel, That's because of the platform that you're doing. That's
Speaker 1: what the thing is.
Speaker 3: The platform that I'm doing makes me more valid because
Speaker 3: I actually know the people I'm talking about. I actually
Speaker 3: have interacted, I actually know what I'm dealing with. You
Speaker 3: just coming on here, never seen me, never met me,
Speaker 3: don't know nothing about me, and you have an opinion
Speaker 3: about me. You understand what I'm saying, So that's just
Speaker 3: it's just it's a it's a smoke screen. You understand
Speaker 3: I'm saying. People don't want to be checked on shit,
Speaker 3: So you know, it becomes you hate. I hate this
Speaker 3: when you don't have a you don't even have a
Speaker 3: reason for something. But like, yo, you like this, but
Speaker 3: not why not?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't like it.
Speaker 3: Now, that's now I can see why, because you can't
Speaker 3: even give me a reason why you don't need something.
Speaker 3: But when I can tell you, no, no, I don't
Speaker 3: like it because it don't sound good, it don't look good,
Speaker 3: I don't like the color, it don't fit me right,
Speaker 3: Like I'm giving you a reason now whether you agree
Speaker 3: with my reason.
Speaker 1: That's up to you. That's up to you, but it
Speaker 1: ain't no hat. This is actually just me giving your opinion,
Speaker 1: and that's who we we get teen it on.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of real quote unquote real niggas
Speaker 3: don't even want to deal with that, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They just say theyself, you know what I know.
Speaker 3: Real If y'all want to believe that shit, cool, but
Speaker 3: they don't understand. It's like being in jail in a
Speaker 3: fake nigga come in the house, right he hes squirrel
Speaker 3: the niggas and you like, I'm just gonna stay in
Speaker 3: my cue.
Speaker 1: He got about twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, But if the real niggas
Speaker 3: didn't start checking him, the rest of the fake niggas
Speaker 3: start coming.
Speaker 1: And next to you allow your cue because.
Speaker 3: These niggas done took over the day room all type
Speaker 3: of shit, because now you don't allow them to do that.
Speaker 3: So it's like at the same in jail nigga walk in. Look,
Speaker 3: this is how we run this house.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 3: You can't do you do that bozo shit. You gotta
Speaker 3: get out of here. And that's how we got to
Speaker 3: do a hip hop again, I forget you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. We gotta start checking niggas because now now.
Speaker 1: We follow us.
Speaker 3: You know, before we was young and we just now
Speaker 3: we father us and our kids start questioning us. Were like, Dad,
Speaker 3: you're not like such and such as world. He's like,
Speaker 3: what that ain't even No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: let y'all do that none, because y'all haven't.
Speaker 1: When y'all have that.
Speaker 3: Platform, y'all have a control over what goes on the
Speaker 3: whole culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so I can't allow your cancers did infect the culture,
Speaker 3: not on my watch.
Speaker 1: You know what, hip hop appreciate you. Real niggas appreciate you.
Speaker 6: And just in life, everybody should appreciate your stance that
Speaker 6: you took because mind you, I'm a part of the
Speaker 6: new generation too, like I go to the.
Speaker 3: Clubs, I like, I love egos, sous bad.
Speaker 1: But now so now, Ali.
Speaker 6: Chi Ali, you're one of the very fortunate people that
Speaker 6: actually you look twenty years old.
Speaker 1: The grades a lot.
Speaker 6: Your name should be baby Face, but you're one of
Speaker 6: the very fortunate people that actually been around for the
Speaker 6: real era of hip hop, like you actually was there,
Speaker 6: so for you to see how the era of hip
Speaker 6: hop went from then to now.
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know my question. That's like me
Speaker 1: the way the coaches team.
Speaker 3: It doesn't upset me, I don't think as much as
Speaker 3: it upsets a lot of the A lot of my
Speaker 3: PIDs young okay, our generation, the older.
Speaker 1: The old generation.
Speaker 3: And for me, a lot of it is because I
Speaker 3: think cause I got kids. So it's just like I'm
Speaker 3: entwined with the new sound. But a lot of it
Speaker 3: is when we was young and I was listening to
Speaker 3: Running the Fat Boys, like my pops will buy it
Speaker 3: for me. But you know, sometimes it was cut that
Speaker 3: ship down, and sometimes I know he didn't think.
Speaker 1: Thirty forty years later, this was what it was going
Speaker 1: to be, right because they all say it's a fan
Speaker 1: Oh that's not music. They said, we sound like them now, damn.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, we saund like this. Niggas
Speaker 1: ain't hip hop here. It's just a new kids. They kids,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Think about it like Mike said, my son eighteen, my
Speaker 3: daughter eighteen, God blessed. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: He what's popping now? So every some of the ship
Speaker 3: they do we're gonna see and be like I ain't
Speaker 3: something we're gonna be like.
Speaker 6: But but that was kind of like how it was
Speaker 6: back then, because I mean, like when people say that
Speaker 6: the era was golden or it was classic, a lot
Speaker 6: of people a lot of times people don't actually focus
Speaker 6: on the fact that it was rock music.
Speaker 3: Then, Yeah it wasn't everybody wasn't getting paid. But I
Speaker 3: don't like and what you addressed to when when you
Speaker 3: first saw the speaking was that the new generation a
Speaker 3: lot of them, not that they don't pay homage, but
Speaker 3: it's like they don't even know, like like how you
Speaker 3: not this is your your feel Like if I'm a
Speaker 3: baseball player, I'm gonna know something about Jackie Robinson Winfield.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Whatever you feel, Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: like that's our generation's fault. We dropped it. You can't
Speaker 1: tell them. You got to go about it.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy because, like you said, the rolling so
Speaker 3: they can still do shows, but forefathers is they washed up?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's what That's why we
Speaker 1: mice did the show when needed.
Speaker 3: To join the bb KS and cool Hert was there
Speaker 3: like like I was I brought a cool, cool her
Speaker 3: came out and I was like, yo, you know, brought
Speaker 3: them out because that's cool.
Speaker 1: Hurt, that's fucking cool, that's cool. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: He wouldn't be here if it was staying hell of hurt.
Speaker 3: I ain't got a million dollars or at least five
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars in his bank account, Like I wish
Speaker 3: y'all had it to be like here, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But some of our leaders in hip hop
Speaker 3: got it.
Speaker 1: Man. We got to make sure some of our brothers
Speaker 1: is all right. I got you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what the crazy like. That's like, I'm so up
Speaker 1: and I love.
Speaker 6: A brother man, And I'm so sorry to bring this up.
Speaker 6: But since me and my partner DJ e f N
Speaker 6: started this podcast, we wanted to start something called a
Speaker 6: hip hop.
Speaker 3: Union, which means my song had that same case back then.
Speaker 1: And we look at Mice and say, Mice said he
Speaker 1: ain't do it.
Speaker 6: Did somebody in place to pay for your lawyer, pay
Speaker 6: for your case, pay for everything?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: So I did all of it, all these not here.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm keeping it right now. Okay, can you put
Speaker 1: that over there? It was a good self ramps. Right.
Speaker 1: So the other day, right, my wife, I loved this woman.
Speaker 6: We went to Mallyd work the first time I ever
Speaker 6: rented a house myself. Every time I ever rented a house,
Speaker 6: it was always been a death jam Tommy boy. It
Speaker 6: never was me. So when I went at this house.
Speaker 3: I walked outside the house because we had ordered the
Speaker 3: car service and said it would be twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: So I came downstairs because I.
Speaker 3: Had like four bunts and I was like, I gotta
Speaker 3: smoke theseus right here. So I smoked them and the
Speaker 3: driver came up in two minutes, and when it came
Speaker 3: I said, yo, like, I looked at the shit.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be twenty minutes.
Speaker 6: He said to me, oh, no, I just dropped off,
Speaker 6: picked up or saw somebody in the rehab in Maliblee.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: So when he said that, you know, naturally I'm smoking.
Speaker 6: So I wanted to walk away from him because I
Speaker 6: ain't want to be disrespectful and be getting high. I
Speaker 6: don't know if he's a recovering whatever, but he said
Speaker 6: he said so to bring back my point, as I'm
Speaker 6: trying to tell you, was the other.
Speaker 3: Day DMX my brother. I love that nigga. He's always
Speaker 3: been there for me. He never lied to me. When
Speaker 3: people seen him on the Barclay stage and people seen
Speaker 3: his rants, people.
Speaker 6: Judged him without wanting it to help. I immediately wanted
Speaker 6: to help, so I said I wanted to. But if
Speaker 6: I do it, or I stepped in, he's gonna.
Speaker 1: Spit at me. I noticed, thinker, yo, what, no, who
Speaker 1: the fuck you think you are? That's what you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: But if we had a hip hop union in place
Speaker 3: where we sit back and we say, Okay, the dog
Speaker 3: don't look great, release the brand, absolutely, and the reason
Speaker 3: why I bring it up is and I don't want
Speaker 3: to blow it up, but he's actually a malleable right now.
Speaker 1: That's where he's at.
Speaker 6: But the problem was I didn't have a position to
Speaker 6: step up.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a position to step up and say whatever.
Speaker 3: Because if it was just me, I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 3: with you, they would have all said fuck you.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: They would have loved the actual fact that I stepped up,
Speaker 6: but then they would have said, what the fuck does
Speaker 6: he think he is?
Speaker 1: Do y'all agree that we need a hip hop union? Definitely?
Speaker 3: And especially like we're brothers, like cool, the real fun,
Speaker 3: the real forefathers.
Speaker 1: More so because the money wasn't there.
Speaker 3: It was not so it wasn't like they had it
Speaker 3: and blew and ran through it.
Speaker 1: They was getting jerked. It wasn't there. And then what
Speaker 1: was there they was? They was booking them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So you gotta tell people what booking means.
Speaker 1: They was Robb He's like one of them that New
Speaker 1: York I say.
Speaker 3: So, it's like, yo, a lot of them didn't, didn't
Speaker 3: never had the bread where we're ex you know, excellent,
Speaker 3: ran through some bread.
Speaker 1: But even with people like X, Like when I was
Speaker 1: locked up on me, I see so many brothers.
Speaker 3: Look at the crackheads, and nobody was smoked cracking jail.
Speaker 3: Everybody was getting money. You know, everybody just smoked weed.
Speaker 3: But it's like I used to tell nigga, Yo, haf
Speaker 3: this year, all just running around with cuts on your
Speaker 3: faces from weed beefs.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If you fucking smoke weed, drink liquor, drink coffee, any
Speaker 3: any moved changing, nigga, you ain't got the right to
Speaker 3: judge nobody. His ship just might be a little more crucial.
Speaker 3: Some ship is a little more serious. Too much to
Speaker 3: criticize anybody, anybody drink.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you talk about my weed.
Speaker 3: Nigga had nothing unless you don't do nothing, leave me alone, man.
Speaker 3: And just we got to like you said, we got
Speaker 3: to help the brother. No, you know, you know what
Speaker 3: the thing is. The thing is hip hop.
Speaker 6: Has to start accepting our responsibility.
Speaker 3: We gotta grow up. Grow much money made hip hop
Speaker 3: to you still just bet you were supposed to. Hip
Speaker 3: hop alone could finance all our communities, like the whole
Speaker 3: black movement.
Speaker 1: It can finance. That's deep. Like really, if all the
Speaker 1: hip hop niggas said.
Speaker 3: Down and say, look, okay you from the left, we
Speaker 3: buy it back left right, we're gonna own all of them.
Speaker 3: We're gonna put all listen to you, We're gonna buy that.
Speaker 3: But like we can literally do that ship. But nobody
Speaker 3: here's a crazy ship is nice. All we need is
Speaker 3: to take one percent of our profits. We donig We
Speaker 3: don't niggas take their jewelry. The jewelry because because because like.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, let me get to because you know why,
Speaker 6: that's the best in the.
Speaker 1: World depends rocket is the best back in the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you you you're gonna be guy from Miami.
Speaker 1: Miami, I mean originally like, yeah, why are you gonna fight?
Speaker 8: You got like the same kind of hair my family because.
Speaker 1: My grandfather you had good hair for a long time.
Speaker 7: You know, you ain't just you ain't just have good
Speaker 7: here yesterday like you've been had. Watch this nigga here
Speaker 7: is nice. But you West Indian. We always claimed in
Speaker 7: the part of winking on clubs man. Well you know
Speaker 7: we were wrong.
Speaker 1: We were.
Speaker 3: And my wife thinks she bought a rigod I'll be
Speaker 3: teasing that she's from Salvador.
Speaker 9: So she thres, you have to see him, black girl.
Speaker 3: She's the Kings anybody from the Salvadot you you see
Speaker 3: that come up.
Speaker 1: So so now let's let's let's just bring it back
Speaker 1: to hip hop. You want this was tracing. This is
Speaker 1: what I trace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy told me that Jim Jones, know, Jimmy, Jimmy
Speaker 3: Boss Cafe.
Speaker 6: Let's make so much a jump Boss Cafe last it.
Speaker 1: He said, that's how I do it. I put some
Speaker 1: cel in it. Selza, he's still doing it.
Speaker 6: I can't believe I thought it would have been over
Speaker 6: by now because a lot of people died of Jimmy's Cafe.
Speaker 1: Died Listen. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: I seen niggas get beat the funk up in Jimmy's Cafe,
Speaker 3: Like like they.
Speaker 1: Beat you up and then they chill. That's the craziest.
Speaker 1: They beat you up and then they have a dream
Speaker 1: with you after that. That was hard. Like and queens,
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, you get beat up. You got the
Speaker 1: club one of the Bronx.
Speaker 3: They beat you up and then they pick you up
Speaker 3: and see are you okay?
Speaker 1: And then they make sure you're good. That's the only
Speaker 1: place I've ever seen that.
Speaker 3: Now, the Bronx being the birthplace of hip hop, the
Speaker 3: fact that we got a bug.
Speaker 1: We got.
Speaker 3: What's what.
Speaker 1: About, say, Dawn, that's you know, I'm don q a
Speaker 1: don q.
Speaker 6: Other than that, it hasn't ever bothered you that the
Speaker 6: Bronx wasn't at the froe.
Speaker 1: Front of hip hop.
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, it not really bothered me, but
Speaker 3: it was like that was one of my goals, like
Speaker 3: we got to put the Bronx back on the back,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I gotta put the
Speaker 3: Bronx back on the map.
Speaker 1: So when you watch and you see.
Speaker 3: A boogiey and them doing anything, you see donkey and
Speaker 3: I'm actually being from the hood, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Young boys from the hood.
Speaker 1: From Okay, you know what I'm saying. So actually they
Speaker 1: remember where we shot the video. They look right from
Speaker 1: right down the you know that. So they're actually from
Speaker 1: the hood.
Speaker 3: So watching young boys win, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: You got nothing to do with root for them, you know.
Speaker 3: So it's happy. It's good to see that. It's good
Speaker 3: to see the resurgence of just content and lyrics. You know,
Speaker 3: you see Davies like you hear all this actually is day,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like you hear people rapping again,
Speaker 3: It's good to do that. Like like I like migos,
Speaker 3: I like all that. You feel hell yet like that
Speaker 3: sh makes you you be like this, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you being the club Christi, CHRISTI. The quality
Speaker 3: is good. It's good music. You can't take nothing away
Speaker 3: from it. But every now and then I want to
Speaker 3: hear some ship that make me like, damn, I get
Speaker 3: a little that make.
Speaker 1: You want to tie your shoe.
Speaker 3: You're saying, don't play them, I'm saying, instead of playing
Speaker 3: them twenty times a day.
Speaker 1: Play I'm like, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, and you know, spread some love,
Speaker 3: Like I stay in Maryland, but you know I'm closer
Speaker 3: to d C. So I'm you know, I run around
Speaker 3: to d C close and homie like I don't even
Speaker 3: know a bogie and them only, but but I know
Speaker 3: that state. They from my homie hood. They be his son,
Speaker 3: They be with his little brothers when they ship. Come on,
Speaker 3: I go crazy with with.
Speaker 1: All New York niggas. Shit, come on period, especially niggas
Speaker 1: I fuck with. It's just a different viot.
Speaker 6: It's different all the way up came out. I used
Speaker 6: to go to every fucking club and it was like
Speaker 6: it was like me.
Speaker 1: It was like right out here.
Speaker 3: I be feeling like that's how we gotta do it
Speaker 3: in you know, I sweart like it's so genuine.
Speaker 1: When I'm reposting nigga shit, I don't even know whoether.
Speaker 3: I only follow people I know, or I might follow
Speaker 3: your man because we all here. So if I see
Speaker 3: something I like it and I'm reposting it, you ain't
Speaker 3: got the eggs.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: Like it's just I don't know why we we we
Speaker 3: just don't don't show up. But it don't make like
Speaker 3: I get a crazy good energy.
Speaker 1: When my nigga shit come on down there, yo.
Speaker 6: And that's why we started this, is because we want
Speaker 6: to give our legends flowers when they can smell them,
Speaker 6: and trees when they can inhale them. Because so many
Speaker 6: people are fucking lost. So many people say that you
Speaker 6: washed up when you got ten years in this game.
Speaker 6: So many people say that you're not the guy because
Speaker 6: the other guy is the guy.
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 3: Some people say that we haven't changed against money. Sometimes, yeah,
Speaker 3: niggas be dead wrong. You know what it is.
Speaker 6: We have to change that because one day I was
Speaker 6: in Live Nation. Right at Live Nation, I looked at.
Speaker 1: It the roster.
Speaker 3: They had nothing more white boy, he's doing sixty dates,
Speaker 3: all this shit, and he was all older than me.
Speaker 3: And I looked and I said, damn, why can't hip
Speaker 3: hop do that?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: And then you know, you know, I call, I called
Speaker 3: from master Flex, and you know, and I don't know
Speaker 3: how anybody feel about from master Flex personally, but I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you how much I.
Speaker 1: Feel about for Master Flex. From master Flex said, fuck that, Nori,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the fuck? What?
Speaker 3: I was like, we gotta make it so our artists
Speaker 3: could do at least fourteen dates on their own New
Speaker 3: York artists, right, And.
Speaker 1: At first I said flex word.
Speaker 3: And then he said And then I turned on the
Speaker 3: radio because mind you, I'm living in Miami, I'm doing
Speaker 3: dream Champs running around.
Speaker 1: And then I heard that's how we on it, that's
Speaker 1: how we on it, And.
Speaker 6: I said, this nigga deserves this shit. There's a lot
Speaker 6: of people who don't. There's a lot of people who get.
Speaker 3: A fame, they get money, they get it, and they
Speaker 3: just go when they could go out everybody. I couldn't
Speaker 3: have been more happy in the world when I heard
Speaker 3: from Master the Flex playing your record, not playing your record,
Speaker 3: staying on your It's a difference.
Speaker 1: You can play it one day, but we're not living
Speaker 1: in the nineties. In the nineties. You play your record
Speaker 1: one time, you're going, You're going now. He got to
Speaker 1: play a ship every.
Speaker 3: Night, that's right, and he been playing his ship every
Speaker 3: single consistent.
Speaker 1: Fought Master Flex. We appreciate you.
Speaker 3: He respecting the grind like yo. He called came home
Speaker 3: at six and they grinding. Like I'm not just talking grinding,
Speaker 3: talking about hundreds of thousands. There'd be some short m
Speaker 3: spent like grinding this nigga grinding homie everything out of pocket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you doing?
Speaker 3: And you're still not even on the label because we
Speaker 3: still ain't. I just really I want to do my
Speaker 3: shit independent. But the platform is being laid, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, the consistency shut out to flex slave.
Speaker 3: Even when you called me, I was I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I think I was in Miami, and I was in Miami.
Speaker 3: I think I was in l a sunny You called
Speaker 3: me like seven in the morning and in the morning.
Speaker 1: Like, Yo, this f is fire. I need you to
Speaker 1: put everything you got. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was just real, It's genuine. It's like damn, and
Speaker 3: that's how we always been.
Speaker 1: It's this real ship.
Speaker 3: And it's like when you get that feel and you
Speaker 3: see people room for you and you know that you
Speaker 3: did everything right. I ain't never compromised my principles, my
Speaker 3: more room. You know what I'm saying, It's coming back,
Speaker 3: and it's just like then be able to see that
Speaker 3: and then be able to be appreciated, especially by the
Speaker 3: people that you appreciate, Like, this is a legend to me,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. That day one, I remember
Speaker 3: when he came in front of.
Speaker 1: Justice and it was the whole second.
Speaker 3: I remember when you played band from TV from time
Speaker 3: and I'm standing in there like this for this ship
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting there like this, oh this ship is
Speaker 3: this is classic. He was like, listen is.
Speaker 1: Sound, my nigga.
Speaker 3: He played that ship truck and he just blasted. Sitting
Speaker 3: right first as he blast that ship. I was just
Speaker 3: in awe, just looking at him, like, damn man. And
Speaker 3: then and see where that ship went.
Speaker 1: It was getting off. I was like, damn man, get air.
Speaker 1: So that you know what I'm saying. So to be
Speaker 1: in the presence and be respected by the people.
Speaker 3: That you love and respect and then like and I
Speaker 3: tell people all the time, the artist that I love
Speaker 3: is because when you listen to their music, you feel
Speaker 3: like you know them.
Speaker 1: And when you listen to Nory music, you really know him. Nah,
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, it ain't no bullshit,
Speaker 3: It ain't yo, This is just some song I made.
Speaker 1: This is no my nigga.
Speaker 3: So when you meet him and you listen, You're like,
Speaker 3: this is exact and that's what it used to be
Speaker 3: for me. And I'm saying some people can separate the
Speaker 3: music from the artist.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not able to do that because once you are
Speaker 3: what you're talking, I'm turning off. It's not authenticity. So
Speaker 3: this is this is a legend. This is one of
Speaker 3: my favorite artists old times. Nigga said, I don't even
Speaker 3: smoke like that, I sell.
Speaker 1: I don't even drink.
Speaker 10: I don't drink like that.
Speaker 3: Who says that, Like sometimes I just chill like those songs.
Speaker 3: I was up norm to listen to them and got
Speaker 3: me through my bed like you know something and didn't
Speaker 3: knowing and you met me and then I madle me
Speaker 3: like he was like, I'm a bronigga.
Speaker 1: All right. You know.
Speaker 3: So when you when you when you're able to get
Speaker 3: love and respect from the people you respect, that's what
Speaker 3: you do it for the rest of it, it don't
Speaker 3: even matter. But that's how we don't know that when
Speaker 3: you never need security now.
Speaker 1: When you live, you know what I mean, just keep
Speaker 1: it too. And you know what the crazy thing is
Speaker 1: is I want to bring it back. I'll come back
Speaker 1: to that me on it.
Speaker 3: But Charlie, you are not only one of the first
Speaker 3: child rappers, you're actually the first gangster rapper, like for real.
Speaker 1: Though like like like you have one. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't know the Philly boys seeing, but I mean identify
Speaker 1: as New York artists.
Speaker 6: Because at one point we came from living our lyrics,
Speaker 6: and you was one of them guys that actually lived
Speaker 6: your lyrics, actually seen girls.
Speaker 1: Nobody.
Speaker 6: I've seen your Black TV interview where you actually explain
Speaker 6: how it happened.
Speaker 3: But the thing about it is what people don't understand
Speaker 3: is you really went through it.
Speaker 6: They look at this interview and they thinking, like you're
Speaker 6: saying it because you just went But this is this
Speaker 6: is some real ship.
Speaker 1: It was real ship, but real girls.
Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, my daughter's uncle. God bless you know, for sure,
Speaker 3: God blessed some peace. But you're like, yo, you know
Speaker 3: what killed me on me is that they And I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to downplay because that took a man's life.
Speaker 1: I take for as from God.
Speaker 3: I can't, you know, turn back the hands the time,
Speaker 3: and that's to me, that's the worst thing you could do.
Speaker 3: Because even if you rape somebody as much as we
Speaker 3: shun that. I still have my daughter right here and
Speaker 3: she's going, She's gone.
Speaker 1: God, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I took somebody's life. I used to watch his son,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So you know that apartment
Speaker 3: cutting you off.
Speaker 6: But that was the most interesting part about it was
Speaker 6: when you was when Blad was.
Speaker 1: Talking to you and we all love that.
Speaker 3: I love lie too, But he's kind of like the police,
Speaker 3: right what I mean, he's.
Speaker 1: Really trying to get the answers, Like he's.
Speaker 3: Going to ask you some ship that couldn't get you incriminated.
Speaker 1: But it's up to you and it's up to you.
Speaker 1: And that was one of the most honorable things.
Speaker 3: I mean, watching it was it was like you was
Speaker 3: not proud of it.
Speaker 1: You just was like, Yo, this songing that happened.
Speaker 3: But you know what, let me just say before you finish,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That's a difference from a real name.
Speaker 3: You didn't see what I'm saying, Like, this is one
Speaker 3: of my best friends since we was kids. You under
Speaker 3: see I'm saying. So we we've been through just about everything.
Speaker 3: Like I know everything about what's going on in time,
Speaker 3: I know everything he was dealing with and to be
Speaker 3: when we've always been authentic, So watch my man and
Speaker 3: knowing everything around me, like having ex and Pistol pop
Speaker 3: these niggas around and knowing that these was the biggest
Speaker 3: gangsters we ever knew in our lives, right, And when
Speaker 3: they have conversations with you, they not glorifying the continue
Speaker 3: bgging you up because a lot of people would have
Speaker 3: took your position as a rapper that actually has a
Speaker 3: body and would have God gone fly and said I
Speaker 3: kept that nigga are doing.
Speaker 1: It was the.
Speaker 6: Exactly like I don't want to name the artist name,
Speaker 6: but he's on line talking about he beat the.
Speaker 1: Case because he shot the nigga like he's online. But you,
Speaker 1: it was the exact And I looked at you and
Speaker 1: mind you, I had a relationship with you forever. He
Speaker 1: was on the run. He was going to my shows.
Speaker 3: Coming to.
Speaker 1: Run you. I seen you on the news. But I
Speaker 1: just want to respect you.
Speaker 6: I just want to say that that that interview, when
Speaker 6: I looked at it and I looked at the grown
Speaker 6: man in you, and I looked at how you you
Speaker 6: you held yourself down, and I looked at how you
Speaker 6: also because.
Speaker 1: That was your girls, brother, and I looked at how
Speaker 1: you was.
Speaker 6: So careful and so conscious, and I just want to
Speaker 6: tell you that is some real shit. We understand we
Speaker 6: can't bring back this man's life, but everything you're doing
Speaker 6: right now, it's actually the illes shit in the world
Speaker 6: because you're not You're the world we lose.
Speaker 1: We are just growing up.
Speaker 3: When we grow up at we lose sight of life,
Speaker 3: like because you hear about niggas getting shot and killed
Speaker 3: and see it and.
Speaker 1: Might do it or whatever.
Speaker 3: So but when you think about it, like yo, even
Speaker 3: to that nigga, he got kids, mubles, bubble and at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's what fifteen years later,
Speaker 3: twenty years later for me now and it's like, what
Speaker 3: think about the biggest beef you had twenty years ago?
Speaker 1: Was that worth it? That you were ready to tell
Speaker 1: shit an hour?
Speaker 3: And now you look at it like that was some
Speaker 3: silly shit, you know what I'm saying, Really is it
Speaker 3: the case that's really worth it?
Speaker 1: When you're come talking.
Speaker 3: About a whole bunch of years and at the end
Speaker 3: of the day it was regular shit like that, like not,
Speaker 3: it was regular shit. I look at it like, you know,
Speaker 3: like I know Mike Saint pussy. But we hung with
Speaker 3: niggas then, so I looked at it like, man, it
Speaker 3: was regular everyday shit, not to be glorified like that.
Speaker 3: What happens that shit that go on?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 6: But nah, I need you describe a situation because my
Speaker 6: partner not if a capone.
Speaker 1: He's standing over there right.
Speaker 3: Me and him was in jail together, right, We was
Speaker 3: in DFY right. Then we came home and he caught
Speaker 3: a case. So I can never really relate to his
Speaker 3: case because he actually.
Speaker 1: Was famous when we was in jail together. I was
Speaker 1: not famous.
Speaker 3: Then he caught a case and then he went up
Speaker 3: and north right, but I could never relate because he
Speaker 3: was compone then right, he was popping like he was.
Speaker 1: He was not compone when we met each other.
Speaker 3: So I just you to describe to people how hard
Speaker 3: or maybe I think it was.
Speaker 1: A double edged sword because you're famous.
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, ship friends, You're gonna have
Speaker 3: some people that dick ride oh ship, that's whether it's inmates,
Speaker 3: whether it's CEOs, And then.
Speaker 1: You gonna have some se fuck that nigga.
Speaker 3: Sa sh same ship sames, some people trying to give
Speaker 3: you extra food, some people trying.
Speaker 1: Not to feed you, you know what I mean, It's just,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody different. I just took it in stride.
Speaker 3: But what I found, especially when I was at Sinks,
Speaker 3: because when I got the Sink thing is it's a
Speaker 3: large population of black police. So and then most of
Speaker 3: them is from the city, so it just so happens.
Speaker 3: I'm in my mid thirties, so a lot of them
Speaker 3: is around the same age age. You know, they say
Speaker 3: they knew who motherfucker was. So it was ill that
Speaker 3: even the motherfuckers that hated, like the cant niggas and
Speaker 3: nigga was so laid back with it that even if
Speaker 3: you had niggas after a where I had to be
Speaker 3: like like another potheo to be like, man, come on, man,
Speaker 3: like that nigga, nigga chilling man. So I just be
Speaker 3: me man and let everybody be them and everything that
Speaker 3: happen the way it's supposed to happen. I've never been
Speaker 3: pussy and I don't know nobody.
Speaker 1: But we're not here for that. We're not here for that.
Speaker 3: We're here to get some money and bring the same
Speaker 3: question because again, my partner, one of my best friends,
Speaker 3: and both of these guys and my best they both comebacks.
Speaker 1: Back. But again, I can't.
Speaker 8: Relate to being famous and being in jail, like I
Speaker 8: was famous in jail for three days, that's it, and
Speaker 8: I was the lawyer, right, but you actually have some fame, right,
Speaker 8: and then it is a robbery Yeah all right, son.
Speaker 1: You just just just take us from there. You had
Speaker 1: a robbery.
Speaker 3: Charge and we heard you you say that you you
Speaker 3: didn't do it, definitely did.
Speaker 1: I definitely believe you all the way. I really believe you.
Speaker 1: Like me if I ain't donna.
Speaker 3: Need to lie, but I did seventy fourteen years so
Speaker 3: I did be like, yeah, I did it. I shouldn't
Speaker 3: have did it? You know it was it was Have
Speaker 3: you ever been in jail prior to that? Or no?
Speaker 3: You know I did a couple of days and cold
Speaker 3: days alight, So now you.
Speaker 1: Cop out I didn't a blue trial? You blue trial?
Speaker 3: Wow, we didn't know that, Okay, so you blue trial
Speaker 3: and now you go up state.
Speaker 6: Now now it's just people know this is my song,
Speaker 6: of course, can you describe that to me?
Speaker 1: For me, it was just unreal, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Like you you young, you're twenty one years old, you
Speaker 3: sit in jail.
Speaker 1: You're signed to violate that violator millions dollar a day.
Speaker 1: I know, I know your budget. Yeah, you know your budget.
Speaker 1: I remember that I was watching. I was watch because
Speaker 1: you know why, and then we're gonna go to the
Speaker 1: shrine story.
Speaker 3: But so yeah, so you know you you you're going
Speaker 3: up north and you sending Herstu on the island for
Speaker 3: a couple of months, and you think you're coming home
Speaker 3: and you're figuring and you know as soon as you
Speaker 3: but I blew trial and then went to the island.
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't in jail fighting my case. I was
Speaker 3: fighting my case. Wow, I was you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was from the outside, you just thinking this ship
Speaker 3: ain't gonna happen like I ain't doing I ain't going
Speaker 3: to jail, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Then you started realizing how dirty the system is. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, How a bunch of ship just
Speaker 3: don't unless you gotta be really serious about what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can't take for granted
Speaker 1: that you're in it. So you're going home.
Speaker 3: That's that's not a reality, especially from our communities. You know,
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, it's just completely different. So when you
Speaker 3: sit in there and you're like, damn, just blue, tryal
Speaker 3: and you don't even know. When I was on the island,
Speaker 3: I even know what I was getting sensed to.
Speaker 1: But what if you were the blue? What you did?
Speaker 1: God bless.
Speaker 3: But because they always tell you, they say you could,
Speaker 3: you will take this play or you can they offer Actually, yeah,
Speaker 3: well in hindsight, you said did and be like, but
Speaker 3: you got to realize you didn't do it.
Speaker 11: Your whole life, you've been fucked up.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. It wasn't even a
Speaker 1: conversation when you didn't do it.
Speaker 6: Man, that's even more so more so now I'm gonna
Speaker 6: be honest.
Speaker 1: I knew you and I knew you didn't do it,
Speaker 1: Like I ain't gonna lie. I knew you did a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of ship because I can see
Speaker 1: it in your eyes.
Speaker 6: But I was like, yo, right now, I'm gonna describe me,
Speaker 6: me and my son right justice was my ship.
Speaker 1: That was very It was my ship.
Speaker 3: Like I ain't gonna lie. I hate it, puff Daddy,
Speaker 3: you can keep this and we're not editing this.
Speaker 1: He did No.
Speaker 6: I hate it pump Daddy, Like I hated when he
Speaker 6: represented it at the time because me and Capone was
Speaker 6: Armie sue niggas and these guys are on shiny suits.
Speaker 6: So I just hated what he represented at the time.
Speaker 6: But I love this prod Justice.
Speaker 1: He made some great fried chicken, so I used to
Speaker 1: go to Justice all the time. Right. So it was
Speaker 1: this rumor.
Speaker 6: But this new artist, it's supposed to be the new
Speaker 6: Biggie Smalls, right am, I correct, you.
Speaker 1: Can stop merect. It was better than I gonna tell
Speaker 1: you better because I'll practice it, practiced it. I can
Speaker 1: feel you ain't practice. I watched you in the breakfast
Speaker 1: class and might sing practice. But there was this new artist.
Speaker 6: His name is Seane so Shine was supposed to be
Speaker 6: the new Biggie Smalls.
Speaker 1: But nobody knew how he looked.
Speaker 3: Nobody know how he looked. So we we heard like
Speaker 3: I think he did like a couple of bars. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but but so we felt like he was heavy.
Speaker 1: But when we seen to him, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is but I seen him. He didn't look like me.
Speaker 3: So it was just it was just it was thrown off.
Speaker 3: So we outside and Puff goes Puff I'm about to
Speaker 3: say text, but I know it wasn't a text. But
Speaker 3: he said, yo, go outside and say hi to my
Speaker 3: new artists. So I go outside. I say what's up
Speaker 3: to him? The nigga was like you you know cause
Speaker 3: Shine is a smooth nigga.
Speaker 1: He was like you, I like you ship. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this nigga. I said, are you Shine? He goes yes,
Speaker 1: I'm shying. I'm like, I'm throwing off not I'm disappointed.
Speaker 1: I'm appointed. It's just I thought he would be a
Speaker 1: heavy person. I thought he was gonna be fat.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, all right, cool bomb. I don't know
Speaker 6: what happens, right, I text Chris Lighty. Chris like, what's
Speaker 6: Chris there? Light Mike Lighty was there, So I text Mike.
Speaker 6: Mike comes and Mike is like, yeah, what's up? You
Speaker 6: need me to pay for the bill. Because that's that's
Speaker 6: my style. Back then, I would just run up some
Speaker 6: ship and be like, just take care of it. But
Speaker 6: I'm gonna describe this scene. So for some reason, Seane
Speaker 6: starts rhyming and then he goes.
Speaker 1: Kicking his ship. So I robbed Tom your man. Tom.
Speaker 3: Tom came. Tom pulled up and was like, I don't.
Speaker 3: In my mind, I felt like he pushed you, like
Speaker 3: heaven was this he was either tone was outside, and
Speaker 3: I think it was either Matt Middleton the lawyer.
Speaker 1: The lawyer.
Speaker 3: So they came and he's like, yo, they're upsided shine
Speaker 3: the norway outside. Tom didn't really want me to do it,
Speaker 3: was like nah, nice, And I'm like, man, if I
Speaker 3: you crazy, this is the million the nigga, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: kill him. So he brought me up there. So Tom's
Speaker 3: just sitting.
Speaker 1: There wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait till you finish.
Speaker 1: That's the part I didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, you gotta rely, you gotta rely,
Speaker 3: you gotta rely.
Speaker 1: So this is the part that I didn't know.
Speaker 3: The part that I didn't know was when you walked outside.
Speaker 1: Did you have that in your mind already over here?
Speaker 1: This relyt my son. That's the only reason.
Speaker 3: So so that's the part I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Is that because.
Speaker 6: Mind you, I think I met you like two minutes
Speaker 6: or twelve minutes and so that and we tell. But
Speaker 6: then you came and then that part I needed that.
Speaker 6: I needed billion dollar.
Speaker 1: Niggas because that's what I remember in the industry. It
Speaker 1: was running.
Speaker 3: He got a million in publishing and a million on
Speaker 3: the deal.
Speaker 1: We had never heard of this in the industry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had never heard of it. Everybody was expecting him
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: He was supposed to be the craziest shit in the world, said.
Speaker 1: Mice comes outside and he's chilling, and he's watching us rhyme, and.
Speaker 6: I rhymed, And for some reason, I feel like I
Speaker 6: never got this part of the story. I felt like
Speaker 6: you looked at me and said, what lies Like.
Speaker 3: In my mind, your eyes said, chill you on already?
Speaker 1: Am I correct? You looked at me like I said, no,
Speaker 1: you know Bronks niggas. You're a Brooks nigga too. You're
Speaker 1: gonna relax, right?
Speaker 6: And then I swear to God because I had never
Speaker 6: heard you rhyme, and I.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I might be wrong, but I feel like you said
Speaker 3: something in my palm and then I got my left
Speaker 3: arm and.
Speaker 1: You say, that's the whole type of sh ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I can't even tell you what I said that I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I was like, oh my God, and
Speaker 1: shine he respectfully bowed out. Am I correct? He was
Speaker 1: after about two rounds. It just he was like, I
Speaker 1: feel like two and a half because that half after
Speaker 1: half around, he was like it's over.
Speaker 3: And then I got Texas people was like you died
Speaker 3: on the streets. And Shine had hit me after that
Speaker 3: and said, buff told me I can't rhyme on the
Speaker 3: street and no more.
Speaker 1: And he told me that we need know my man.
Speaker 1: Now I fell up for sh listen, that's my man.
Speaker 1: We fell Shine was inclining together. That's my that's my
Speaker 1: my nigga.
Speaker 3: But but right after that we had fell out because
Speaker 3: prior to that, because I felt like I felt like
Speaker 3: you kind of fucked up. His deal was a lot
Speaker 3: because he came to me and he told me the
Speaker 3: same thing that he mother, was like, he don't want
Speaker 3: me to run. And that's when him and Puff start
Speaker 3: going sideway. After that situation, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: He came and was in the studio together, you know,
Speaker 3: because him and Nige was cool. So Najus always have
Speaker 3: me around. And I think like right after that, we
Speaker 3: walked onto a fight. It was it was like a
Speaker 3: big thing. His man Shine, his no one of his
Speaker 3: little man and his little man. We got into that
Speaker 3: Puffer House.
Speaker 1: I think ye.
Speaker 3: At the in the Hampton's had a party in Hampton
Speaker 3: and we came off there and it was probably like
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks after that. So I see you
Speaker 3: and I give him a pound and on this man like,
Speaker 3: fuck that nigga giving you fake love, and he said
Speaker 3: out loud. Nigga was like he was about five too.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what who are you talking to? What are
Speaker 3: you what are you talking about? He's like, funk that
Speaker 3: you running around? You know too much niggas running around
Speaker 3: saying you killed him and fuck that whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it was me. He was running around, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm like, what are you talking them about?
Speaker 1: It was me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Listen for me, it was like, listen, we're not gonna
Speaker 3: do this. The biggest knocking this off. Let me take something, Sean.
Speaker 3: I had the biggest bus at this time. He had
Speaker 3: the biggest bus. So for me to just meet this.
Speaker 6: Nigga and this nigga tear him up, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 6: I told everybody it was me.
Speaker 1: It was me. I'm gonna be honest. We put that around.
Speaker 1: I said, what did I say? You said? One of
Speaker 1: the guys to shout the battle shut myself. I did
Speaker 1: because I ain't gonna again. I'm gonna reiterate this whole situation. Right.
Speaker 1: I'm a hood nigga. I know, I know certain people
Speaker 1: don't know like you know how queens get down off,
Speaker 1: you know. I know I know people some a lot
Speaker 1: of people look at you and just be like you
Speaker 1: from queens that it's false. They gotta relax, right. But
Speaker 1: I looked at Mice.
Speaker 3: Mice gave me Till to this day.
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I don't remember because me and him got bug after
Speaker 3: guard brow, so I don't remember. If it was a
Speaker 3: something and I look, I said word, I.
Speaker 1: Fell back, But I know, don't look I had. I
Speaker 1: gave my man. This is my word. I gave my man.
Speaker 1: That's going to am.
Speaker 3: I'm on the A side. Tell me with about fourteen
Speaker 3: blood niggas. I fun with him, you know that, small wigga.
Speaker 3: I'm my man's on the other side of these my niggas.
Speaker 3: Though my nigga pooch broken nigga pools, he gets in it.
Speaker 3: One of the niggas stepped on and broke his cardier
Speaker 3: is on the visit he hit him.
Speaker 1: Cardiers on. Yeah, let's big him clock. You know, he
Speaker 1: went down I think for the step on mother.
Speaker 3: But anyway, whatever happened, Pooch popped on the bit, so
Speaker 3: the nigga, all the blood is on my side, so
Speaker 3: they gonna pop on the nigga. So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: they like your chiet men. I'm like, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to and you gave him.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to resolve this situation. But I obviously seen the thing.
Speaker 1: The boy didn't swung on the nigga ration. The thing
Speaker 1: then went too far.
Speaker 3: So I went to that game and I gave him
Speaker 3: the eye like like somebody your mice gave me the eye.
Speaker 3: And it was like it was, like I said, I
Speaker 3: relaxed because it was like whatever he did was like, nigga,
Speaker 3: you on, why are you going to rhyme with us?
Speaker 1: And I sat by that and I said, Dad, we had.
Speaker 12: A whole conversation just right here, just because, and I
Speaker 12: loved and I said, damn, and yo, boy, I did
Speaker 12: not know what she was gonna do though, and all
Speaker 12: due respect, I thought you was.
Speaker 3: Okay, but then you rhymed and I realized you might have.
Speaker 5: Stopped the whole block I think even the police started clapping.
Speaker 1: I mean, the police is on the corner like that
Speaker 1: out then too. It was there, It was, it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It was so legendary.
Speaker 6: Now, that was a legendary hip hop moment. Do you
Speaker 6: realize how legendary that was?
Speaker 3: I mean when I hear what you say, like in
Speaker 3: my mind it was because you know, you don't you
Speaker 3: don't want to over over push yourself because I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: this sh was big.
Speaker 1: I've seen it from my perspective.
Speaker 3: I'm like then, like this was the industry was dead
Speaker 3: normally one of my favorite artists is there, Hey, Buddy's
Speaker 3: then I just did some ship that's probably gonna go down.
Speaker 3: Or I'm thinking it's that big. I forgot you your
Speaker 3: deal exactly.
Speaker 1: Soide him right there.
Speaker 3: The next day. The next day it was like Jamaine
Speaker 3: the pre fool me to Landa. We have like ten
Speaker 3: meetings in like three days. This is the reason why
Speaker 3: I know, because because I invitedn't like likely, and then
Speaker 3: they come out to day all media like what happened?
Speaker 1: You know, I was out already, but I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be want to say something I told
Speaker 1: you to come here, but listen all do it that.
Speaker 1: I never seen somebody be that like battle rap.
Speaker 3: When I think a battle rap, I don't think of
Speaker 3: smack DVD. I think of what you did that night.
Speaker 3: That night you looked at that man in his face.
Speaker 3: Didn't disrespect him, but you disrespected.
Speaker 1: Him in another way.
Speaker 3: Because you looked at his flaws and you just made
Speaker 3: it and you just kept hitting them with punch lines.
Speaker 1: And then he kept rhyming.
Speaker 3: He kept rhyming, not against you, which was wrong because
Speaker 3: like you took it personalf. You directed every ball towys
Speaker 3: his motherfucker. And then this nigga kept kicking rhymes that
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with Mike Mice. He took a vantage.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was a man you got to keep
Speaker 3: swinging as a mean, he took advant respect that, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I think Sean was an artist.
Speaker 3: He was an artist, artist, artist who's had at that moment.
Speaker 1: Gimmick around him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know the whole biggie he said, sounding the bad voice,
Speaker 3: sound like bigg but he was officiing nigga with Sean nigga.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I folks with him too.
Speaker 1: I ain't say nothing bad about him. This is different,
Speaker 1: but it's a different add some MC ship.
Speaker 3: It's like but that day I'm saying that, I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: like I don't want.
Speaker 1: To rhyme after my song, do nothing. It's like in
Speaker 1: the finals, like step the moment, step all the height.
Speaker 3: But in the front when Lebron was just throwing this
Speaker 3: ship like nigga, nigga, you know it's.
Speaker 1: Real, It's real, and that you know what it is.
Speaker 6: This is the biggest thing. We should celebrate these moments
Speaker 6: in hip hop. We should actually sit back and be like, you.
Speaker 3: Know what and Sean to Sean is is Sean called me.
Speaker 3: Sean hit me and was like, man, you killed me
Speaker 3: on that ship definitely, Like I'm like, what.
Speaker 1: Do you got to be made? Oh no, this is
Speaker 1: this is pretty. That's why this is important. Is a
Speaker 1: lot of free came saying that's what that's what this
Speaker 1: is important, right me and me? And yeah, you know
Speaker 1: he called me years later like we never.
Speaker 3: Had that real conversation because we had and we was
Speaker 3: war like we both struggled, and I used to I
Speaker 3: love like I actually had love for Sean because he
Speaker 3: was one of us, and I used to be in
Speaker 3: the studio, like even after that Ship, I used to
Speaker 3: be in the studio with Sean helping him like with.
Speaker 1: Records, like he let me hear Ship, like nah do
Speaker 1: this do that? Like this was my nigga.
Speaker 6: But the rumor was the room was so big because
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie that moment what it was.
Speaker 1: It was like no, no, no, no, relaxed and right in
Speaker 1: the stud that was my nigga. He's just being like
Speaker 1: he respected me as an artist.
Speaker 3: I say what I did with him, and like he'd
Speaker 3: be in the studio and we'll go to the studio.
Speaker 3: He let me hear Ship and oh yeah that's still boy,
Speaker 3: this and that, like before he dropped the who want
Speaker 3: to fuck with Us?
Speaker 1: And she's like I heard that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was, and I got locked up when he first
Speaker 3: started playing. I never was there to actually see Sean
Speaker 3: even dropping no music, Like I was just in the studio, y'all.
Speaker 3: When you know what I'm saying. When he first started
Speaker 3: and him and Puff was actually going through Ship like
Speaker 3: there was a niggas I know Ship.
Speaker 1: It was like I was in the intricate like when
Speaker 1: Puff and Mace was.
Speaker 3: Beefing Puff and Sean would be like I was I
Speaker 3: and all double up like I and all that project.
Speaker 1: And then the Mace Project, the Mace Project. I went
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 3: I went out to the Bahamas with Made. He threw
Speaker 3: me out there and I was in the studio him
Speaker 3: every day recording his album. He didn't even let Puff
Speaker 3: come in the room. Nobody's gonna tell you this, But
Speaker 3: then afterwards Puff came and listened to it. It was
Speaker 3: like he threw his little spin on it and trying
Speaker 3: to He pushed me out of it because I was
Speaker 3: a young naven coming up in the game. He's like,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying here, you got your man's
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 1: What you know? This is my project? Did he tell
Speaker 1: you your man's in them? Yeah? He said, you brought
Speaker 1: your man's in them.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When we was the man, He's like, Yo, you're a
Speaker 1: man's and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: When we had our ship, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like we was weed either this is real ship. Me
Speaker 3: and Puff grown like because there was a I was
Speaker 3: me and he was him and I wasn't relinquishing who
Speaker 3: I was. I only much money you got. I don't care,
Speaker 3: but bad boys ship. I'm mean, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: I'm here with my man. I'm with him, so if
Speaker 3: he ain't with you, then I'm not with you.
Speaker 1: And that's how my stance was with anything, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So when he brought me in the studio with him
Speaker 3: and I'm listening to this and then Papa come and listen,
Speaker 3: and he was like, yeah, I don't really like that,
Speaker 3: and I'm like that ship is dope, mate, I don't
Speaker 3: know what he talking about.
Speaker 1: And he was like, yo, you know, you know how
Speaker 1: Papa is. He's like, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I know you got your man's nothing with you, but
Speaker 3: I don't look, I just need me and you to talk.
Speaker 1: And I'm here.
Speaker 3: He brought me here though for a reason. He was
Speaker 3: like yeah, and he'd be talking to Ma's like your mates, listen.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: through all this. You know what I'm saying. You got
Speaker 1: you so you know we had that.
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying, I can picture this.
Speaker 3: Ship and we went through that little that little bit
Speaker 3: I remember when the one time we was in behind
Speaker 3: us and I never forget it, and it was just like,
Speaker 3: you know, puppy is competitive. Niggas said what every day
Speaker 3: when that nigga.
Speaker 1: Pupp is competitive? Super?
Speaker 3: So you know he he knew I was a street nigga.
Speaker 3: He knew then I had my respect and treat he
Speaker 3: with tolling them. I remember, I remember he fucked with
Speaker 3: them home. So but I was deal with Mace. That
Speaker 3: wasn't even here. It wasn't a tone, none of them.
Speaker 3: And I was there with Mace. And you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I was there Wolf, like God bless it.
Speaker 3: That Wolf compon me in his room every night. That's
Speaker 3: that was the last time I really seen Wolf was
Speaker 3: in the Bahamas. He used to bring me in his
Speaker 3: room every night like he was talking to me and
Speaker 3: killing me because we both wrongs niggas and I was
Speaker 3: like the young un so he used to give me jews.
Speaker 3: So anyway, we inside. I don't know where he was.
Speaker 3: I don't think we was in the studio. I think
Speaker 3: we were somewhere. He brought Jaylo on them on there
Speaker 3: that he brought Jaylaw.
Speaker 1: It was a big big by Jay story. No real story.
Speaker 1: But she was there.
Speaker 3: She used to come talk with us, like we're in
Speaker 3: the studios, you gonna say like this.
Speaker 1: She come talking to me and they got nothing to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: Jas from Abron, So I stay with them Bron and
Speaker 3: she can't.
Speaker 1: She was cool with us. We're sitting there and I'm like,
Speaker 1: Jaylo was flawless.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen jail on years, but in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 3: ninety ninety you snapped her chair.
Speaker 1: I did. Of course. Niggas makes you want to I
Speaker 1: want to be me.
Speaker 3: She walked in the first Listen, that's a real off.
Speaker 1: That's real. That's real.
Speaker 3: Jealous looks like somebody just mean it is really, I'm
Speaker 3: just sitting there looking.
Speaker 14: At it like this all so anyway, and Papa was going,
Speaker 14: you know, we just this and that, and then I'm
Speaker 14: we was in the room going something where I don't
Speaker 14: even know what it was.
Speaker 3: So we're talking back before we you know, I could
Speaker 3: do this and I do this like yeah, I know
Speaker 3: this and that. So I'm like, I don't know what
Speaker 3: he said to me. But somehow we started like wrestling.
Speaker 1: Somehow it was a wrestled We had like a wrestling match.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're members of ship. This ship
Speaker 1: is so biy was.
Speaker 11: Listening, just going on. It wasn't wrestling, Listen, we gotta talk.
Speaker 11: It wasn't really wrestling.
Speaker 3: But I don't know who I was. It just got
Speaker 3: into some ego versus ego and I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened, but a he like, my nigga.
Speaker 1: I say you if I Brady, you can't get out.
Speaker 15: I bet you, okay for what you're saying, I.
Speaker 10: Said, Christ, if I'm rapped, I'm not going nowhere. You
Speaker 10: want to bet everybody I'm down before you in the
Speaker 10: headline money and not the headline.
Speaker 1: I just wrapping the right way home and was fighting,
Speaker 1: but did like all right, and I'm like, puppy, you're
Speaker 1: not getting out of this. I'm o, my nigga.
Speaker 3: You know the s's in the Bahamas.
Speaker 1: The commentary more Fellas and it was meggan man and the.
Speaker 11: Man told me if I grabbed you, bet.
Speaker 1: You and get our So what do you want to be? Like?
Speaker 1: What are you willing to bet? He said? I bet?
Speaker 1: I don't even know we bet.
Speaker 3: I know that Ning was on a full squirm and
Speaker 3: I was like puppy, don't getting out of this.
Speaker 1: Crazy getting nice, my nig you're walking into that. He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: and I sat. I said, He's like, he's when I
Speaker 1: let him go, He's like, no, no, no, let me go.
Speaker 1: I never started.
Speaker 3: We didn't do that tomorrow, you.
Speaker 1: Know, And I think from that moment we had a
Speaker 1: little bit more.
Speaker 3: He was, you know what I'm saying, shut up a
Speaker 3: puff man, because you know why, you know why, you
Speaker 3: know why.
Speaker 6: At first, when I was competing with them, I always
Speaker 6: wanted to say, oh, fuck them, niggas.
Speaker 1: Fucking nads, fucking PuF, fucking jay z everywhere right. But
Speaker 1: then when I.
Speaker 6: Started competing with them, I started to realize how important
Speaker 6: they are to our cultures.
Speaker 1: So when I see Anas, I always want to big
Speaker 1: him up.
Speaker 3: I always want to stop and give him a hug.
Speaker 3: When I see a puff it's the same thing when
Speaker 3: I see a jay I always want to stop and just.
Speaker 1: Give them love.
Speaker 3: Because the thing about our culture is we don't celebrate
Speaker 3: our cultures. And you tell them you got to relax
Speaker 3: and then grab a bottle, even though we don't even
Speaker 3: want the bottle, Just grab a bottle.
Speaker 1: Call. They thought there this record war with your chick yo.
Speaker 1: Even though we don't even know them.
Speaker 3: Two niggas Jay and Puff, they them two individuals may
Speaker 3: have like probably like fifty percent of the influence over
Speaker 3: the coach.
Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying over the whole coach. This is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So like, at one point the whole crew too.
Speaker 1: Not to take nothing away.
Speaker 3: From all of them, at one point I used to
Speaker 3: compete with them so much that I never actually understood
Speaker 3: their genius. Sometimes when you're trying to be on the
Speaker 3: same level with somebody, you don't understand it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're blessed, you can't see someone else.
Speaker 3: You can't see somebody else's blessing because you're living in
Speaker 3: your blessings.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: So when I when I came up and everything was
Speaker 6: you know, you know, percolating the apartment, I started to
Speaker 6: realize that, damn, all these years I fucked up because
Speaker 6: I was trying to be the next Rockefeller, always trying
Speaker 6: to be the next bad boy, always trying to And
Speaker 6: then when I'm really and I said, man, this whole time, now,
Speaker 6: I should have been bigging you up.
Speaker 1: This whole time. That's my fault. That ain't his fault.
Speaker 3: Because if he don't fuck with me, that's his fault.
Speaker 3: But my fault is I gotta, I gotta. I gotta
Speaker 3: appreciate Chilly. I gotta appreciate him my song. I gotta
Speaker 3: appreciate it. That's okay, this is.
Speaker 1: Drink Championship, change this fall. We just do it.
Speaker 6: But and that's what I want to keep, continue to promote,
Speaker 6: and I want to continue to promote us. Bigg enough
Speaker 6: us because if we don't big up us, because who's.
Speaker 1: Gonna big us up?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: He motherfucker right, that's right, not a damn soul eat.
Speaker 15: But the thing is, that's the thing about life.
Speaker 1: The thing about life is me and my partner right here.
Speaker 3: We did this Drink Championship for five six months and
Speaker 3: we ain't getting paid a dollar. In fact, I'm sure
Speaker 3: we owe fifty thousand dollars. I'm sure that all the
Speaker 3: flights that were doing. But we believed in this so much,
Speaker 3: and we believed in hip hop so much that we
Speaker 3: didn't care.
Speaker 6: So by the time we did get paid, it was
Speaker 6: like we definitely get paid.
Speaker 1: We didn't get paid. We put out but it didn't matter.
Speaker 3: You know what matter is he loves hip hop this
Speaker 3: nigga is a hip hop nigga. This nigga probably got
Speaker 3: your ship on vinyl. I definitely have you got your
Speaker 3: ship on vinyl.
Speaker 1: That's the DJ. That's the DJ, and I'm the artist.
Speaker 3: And the thing is, who better to represent our culture
Speaker 3: than the artists in the DA the artist in the
Speaker 3: fucking DJ. So the thing I'm trying to tell y'all
Speaker 3: is if you never felt appreciated or you never felt
Speaker 3: like what you.
Speaker 16: Did for hip hop didn't matter, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 16: today that it motherfucking dead.
Speaker 1: Listen. I want to tell you that it did.
Speaker 3: Know what you've done for hip hop, I'm doing it
Speaker 3: like you continue to do it. You have evolved into
Speaker 3: not only one of my favorite artists of all times,
Speaker 3: now you are like a voice and you're bringing stuff
Speaker 3: like this to the table. And I have a responsibility.
Speaker 1: Mice. I'm sorry, guys, I cut you off because fans
Speaker 1: hate that.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna tell you I actually recognized my responsibility
Speaker 3: now like then, I didn't recognize my responsibility. Responsibility meant
Speaker 3: nothing to me because I only wanted to get me up.
Speaker 3: But Drake Champs supplies people jobs. We have a show coach.
Speaker 3: If you're born and run eating that. We just finalized,
Speaker 3: do not did not blow it up. Don't blow up.
Speaker 3: I need to be a part of that.
Speaker 1: Nias got you. But listen, So we just finalized.
Speaker 6: And the thing is, I can't do none of this
Speaker 6: ship if I don't have hip hop on my back.
Speaker 1: And hip hop should be first.
Speaker 3: Hip hop should be a religion, and not only hip
Speaker 3: hop should be a religion.
Speaker 6: But we actually have to unionize hip hop. I know
Speaker 6: I said it earlier, but for real, because just think
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 1: Mice. Oh and I'm sorry that I keep using you
Speaker 1: as a example, but use me.
Speaker 3: But every time I think of your case, I think
Speaker 3: of like I wish I was in power to say,
Speaker 3: let me hire Bob Kleena, let me hire a Scott Lehman,
Speaker 3: because this nigga gotta get the fuck off of this case.
Speaker 1: And the thing about us is.
Speaker 6: We only care about ourselves. We have to actually sit back.
Speaker 6: Get that twenty five thousand dollars check, get that ten
Speaker 6: of another check you.
Speaker 1: Just get for back one hundred dollars. It's not even
Speaker 1: it can be profitable.
Speaker 6: So now when Chili, something happens with Chili and Chi
Speaker 6: Ali sitting there and they saying, he's saying, Yo, no,
Speaker 6: I ain't do that ship.
Speaker 1: You got representation, you got everything.
Speaker 3: And and the thing is, you gave too much to
Speaker 3: hip hop for you not to be I know.
Speaker 1: You, I know you humble, I know who you are.
Speaker 1: I know and you're a street nigga. I know it.
Speaker 1: But you know what hip hop owes you, not hip
Speaker 1: hop owes us.
Speaker 3: Some it owes all of us because we dedicated our
Speaker 3: whole life just a long time like this is way
Speaker 3: and yo yo another because against it.
Speaker 1: But I want to, you know, just not.
Speaker 3: Just congratulate my brother, but you know, just to see
Speaker 3: the grind starting to pay off and just with and
Speaker 3: it's just.
Speaker 1: A positive lane with beautiful. It's dope.
Speaker 3: And when you when you're getting money and it's on
Speaker 3: some positive ship, like that's the best. Like you what
Speaker 3: you said when you helping niggas, you know, you helping
Speaker 3: motherfuckers kids eat, that's dope, nigga.
Speaker 1: That's official. That's some ship you brag about.
Speaker 3: That's where you brag. What I got, I had my
Speaker 3: son in first class. When I got it was a
Speaker 3: two man's families because of me.
Speaker 1: Nigga. That's dope. That's what you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: That's always been and that's what we gotta do.
Speaker 6: So what we gotta do in hip hop is one
Speaker 6: continue to big each other up. Like I told you
Speaker 6: my meeting with Leo Kolngs, he sat down with me
Speaker 6: and he me and Dollar beating at the Polo Lounge.
Speaker 17: I lived out Drake lyrics. He got to relax, makes
Speaker 17: really really really. But le All said to me and
Speaker 17: he said, why does this work? And I said what right?
Speaker 1: I least? He said what does this work? And I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know. He said, you know why this works
Speaker 1: because hip hop is never been celebrated.
Speaker 6: And at that very moment, I didn't know what he
Speaker 6: was talking about. And then I thought about it and
Speaker 6: I was like, damn, because I don't interview people I
Speaker 6: don't respect.
Speaker 1: The only interview people I respect.
Speaker 3: That's why that's why you see a lot of the
Speaker 3: old school rappers doing shows now.
Speaker 1: Niggas starting rob out there for two years.
Speaker 3: Niggas he out there, easy, easy ride. A lot of
Speaker 3: people get money. Black Sheep. They niggas like niggas. We
Speaker 3: interviewed cast one of that nigga ain't been in America
Speaker 3: for two months and he's not show he was lost.
Speaker 3: He definitely is not cheap and he definitely picked up
Speaker 3: African back bout it. I tol him relaxed at that
Speaker 3: little moment.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: Because I had I had there.
Speaker 1: He used to be talking as a little nigga. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what's going over I was. I said,
Speaker 1: I said, listen, we can't do that. Chris is one
Speaker 1: of my Chris. You can't say that. You can't you
Speaker 1: got you can't tell you what it was.
Speaker 3: He said, in his defense, what happened was to take
Speaker 3: away from his legacy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what happened was this because it happened on
Speaker 1: drink Champs.
Speaker 6: So let me let me, let me let me finally
Speaker 6: clarify what happened was. I asked Cares, I said, Yo,
Speaker 6: what do you feel about African Bambata?
Speaker 1: And he goes, I don't give.
Speaker 6: A funk about controversy, right, He said, that's not going
Speaker 6: to take away from what he gave to hip hop
Speaker 6: and what he gave to me. But in his defense,
Speaker 6: the nigga was coming off of a boat, so he
Speaker 6: didn't know what African bat battle.
Speaker 15: Was accused saying, okay, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I don't get nothing of this,
Speaker 1: but I ask him that. When he said that, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, ship, and I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: like I didn't want to stop him be like yo.
Speaker 3: He said he didn't, he didn't know. So what happened
Speaker 3: was big up the star starting buckle whop, big you out.
Speaker 1: But he took that one part and he destroyed him
Speaker 1: like he just because he in the stars defense. He
Speaker 1: was actually right too. He didn't say that, but he
Speaker 1: didn't have the content. He didn't have the facts.
Speaker 3: And me, I on Twitter all day, I'm on Instagram
Speaker 3: all day, so I understand.
Speaker 1: But when Chris said that, I know, I knew anew.
Speaker 3: I knew he didn't know going on now he didn't know.
Speaker 1: You, I don't. You can't take away from his music.
Speaker 3: Whatever about we can't legacy legacy. He can't take away
Speaker 3: from his music, like taking trophy. I don't want to
Speaker 3: take the trophy. If they find out that baseball players
Speaker 3: using steroids, they take all them accolades.
Speaker 1: So the same ship applies and hip hop to that.
Speaker 1: But he cheated the game. You cheated the game too,
Speaker 1: because the game and search the cheated the game. I
Speaker 1: care what you say.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about his music. If you liked one of
Speaker 3: his songs no and didn't know who like No, no way,
Speaker 3: because like I told you before we started this, if
Speaker 3: I can't separate the artists from the music, if you
Speaker 3: not who you say you are the music that I'm
Speaker 3: saying this, if you don't know who the artist is,
Speaker 3: if you just listening, you know.
Speaker 1: Now that you was raping that boys, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do nothing. I don't want to hear.
Speaker 3: Any I wish I could just rewind and never heard
Speaker 3: the ship I heard from you.
Speaker 1: We neither.
Speaker 3: Whatever I'm saying is when they played all their people, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not I'm gonna tell turn that ship off right now
Speaker 1: that that but that's part of their his now that's
Speaker 1: the same way music bring back time. But you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear it. And I'm going to the djove He'll turn
Speaker 1: that ship over. The little boy. I'm doing the everything
Speaker 1: out of here I'm saying out here, I mean we
Speaker 1: but listen, I'm not standing up for him and thank you.
Speaker 3: That's that's like you listen yea, my wife.
Speaker 1: Knocking, don't worry. Yeah, up here's God. This is the
Speaker 1: best way I know what about.
Speaker 3: His deal, right, I love respect everything I fucking man
Speaker 3: bought it brought the industry right, But at the same token,
Speaker 3: I can't co sign anything as his allegation.
Speaker 1: You personal named Poppy from the Brons.
Speaker 3: And I know this nigga. I don't know where I
Speaker 3: knew him from, but I know this nigga.
Speaker 1: He ain't lying.
Speaker 3: And that nigga sitting there saying, yo, he forty so
Speaker 3: can I can?
Speaker 1: I can?
Speaker 3: I What I'm saying is on me, you could be
Speaker 3: a rapist. When I hear what I'm saying is if
Speaker 3: I found that out tomorrow, ain't nothing gonna change when
Speaker 3: I hear that's you can't just say fuck that nigga.
Speaker 3: He's a bitch, that that ship, that so the stuff so,
Speaker 3: And that's what I felt like care Russel Wan was
Speaker 3: trying to express, but he expressed it in the wrong
Speaker 3: way because he was trying to say, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't give what y'all telling me about African is my nigga.
Speaker 3: The problem was arrested and know what African buying bottle
Speaker 3: was actually accused?
Speaker 1: Correct, you know all the facts. He didn't know all
Speaker 1: the facts, so he said, this is what he said,
Speaker 1: this is what it is.
Speaker 3: Fucked up, And this is the reason why that's something
Speaker 3: fun up because we grew up around that like yeah,
Speaker 3: like my man be like, yes, a lot of them
Speaker 3: and jail and you don't know why what like a
Speaker 3: lot of them bro rip alive while niggas man.
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why.
Speaker 3: That's the reason why I know I never addressed it because.
Speaker 1: After car Rest said that was the same day the
Speaker 1: facts came.
Speaker 3: Out of So when Carras said, now now you're gonna realize,
Speaker 3: now put it together. You gotta realize. I said, Chimus,
Speaker 3: what you heard about African man botta and he goes,
Speaker 3: fuck controversy. I don't give a funk about no controversy.
Speaker 3: It can never take away from what he did. The
Speaker 3: hip hop think you kr Rest don't know. So like
Speaker 3: it's just like right now that we know we filmed this,
Speaker 3: I don't know when it's gonna come out, right, but
Speaker 3: by the time we put it out, people think this
Speaker 3: is new right now. He is right now yesterday and
Speaker 3: it wasn't you know what I'm saying, change, So.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta representficate of us one because by
Speaker 1: the time you put it out.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you allications you said another he was on
Speaker 3: he was on a boat.
Speaker 1: Everybody talking ship. He's on the boat, my niggast letters.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you yeah, you know, because that was hurt.
Speaker 1: Like I arrest, did not he did not co sign it.
Speaker 1: He did not, he did not. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I'ma be honest.
Speaker 3: He did not co sign it, but he did say
Speaker 3: what he said, and that's like you, It's.
Speaker 6: Like, yo, what you telling me? What mice my nigga,
Speaker 6: don't give a funk with what you tell me. It
Speaker 6: was nice and that's and I'm gonna just thick of
Speaker 6: that cheet my nigga. I don't give a fuck what
Speaker 6: you say. But we didn't know that you got nigga.
Speaker 3: He's finger popping boys, like when everything I was doing
Speaker 3: a protests contesting for like thirty days.
Speaker 1: Trade about the lady because we got a big up
Speaker 1: my song the Raptivists. I love that, you know.
Speaker 6: Hold I'm tell you something. I'm sorry, come cut you off.
Speaker 6: You know, people hate that, right, But my son, the
Speaker 6: courage that you have in certain situations. I always watch
Speaker 6: you and I wish I had the same courage you have.
Speaker 6: I appreciate I don't have the courage you have. You
Speaker 6: be marching for real, like you really for real. You
Speaker 6: went to the woman's march, you went to the me
Speaker 6: and Man march. You went, you'll be marching.
Speaker 1: You be marching. Let's make some nation marchs. Got that,
Speaker 1: But listen.
Speaker 3: So I was doing a protests. They killed sixty six
Speaker 3: year old woman. He shot her two times an abamen.
Speaker 3: They said she had a bat, mentally ill woman. They
Speaker 3: walked in the house full of them and they couldn't
Speaker 3: do nothing else. But she was said back, I'm back.
Speaker 3: You shot up for two times of having a bat,
Speaker 3: saying she was a threat to their life.
Speaker 1: This is the bronx. This is in the bronx.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was doing I did a forty day
Speaker 3: protest where I was outside of the precinct every day
Speaker 3: forty days straight, rain, sleep snow, by myself, kids, my kids,
Speaker 3: whatever it was, because this is how passionate I was
Speaker 3: about it. Probably in one of those days, the guy
Speaker 3: the accused of of being Bada was out there with
Speaker 3: me and he pulled me to the side, and this
Speaker 3: was a d he was a desled dude, and he
Speaker 3: was just like, yo, I want to.
Speaker 1: Talk to you, and I ain't know don't like what
Speaker 1: you told to me.
Speaker 3: I didn't know who he was, and he was just like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: I'm the guy that told about what body did to me.
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I want
Speaker 1: I wanted to live.
Speaker 6: And it's us being hip hop because this is all
Speaker 6: it's a father like all this. Our father might be
Speaker 6: fucked up, but this is kind of like our father.
Speaker 3: So when he's telling me this and he looked at
Speaker 3: me in my eyes, this wasn't no, it didn't seem
Speaker 3: He's like, yo, man, he said, it took me years
Speaker 3: to be able.
Speaker 1: To say this to something. Yeah, because it's hurts, he said.
Speaker 3: But I respect you and I think that you staying
Speaker 3: on the principles that I live by. And I just
Speaker 3: want to look at you in your face and say
Speaker 3: this ain't no lie. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 3: I want you to I want you to look at me,
Speaker 3: and I want to I just wanted to come out
Speaker 3: here and tell you that, and that shit kind of
Speaker 3: hurt me, like dangn you can tell because because it
Speaker 3: hurts them saying exactly.
Speaker 1: You can see he was in jail, he said, I
Speaker 1: was locked up. He looked like he was fit.
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, why would a
Speaker 3: man want to come and hear somebody rap them?
Speaker 1: Like what the fun he want to say that? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it was just like it
Speaker 1: was really it was like damn.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, but love it, like I'm sorry for you,
Speaker 3: he said, no, I just he said, it's very few
Speaker 3: people I respect and I told my story because I
Speaker 3: needed to do that for me.
Speaker 1: But I actually respect you and I respect what you're
Speaker 1: doing this.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that, Okay, He's like, I want to
Speaker 3: and I just want you to understand that why I
Speaker 3: said what I said is that I needed to get
Speaker 3: ridden for me because I was living with that ship
Speaker 3: for years. And I just wanted you to know that
Speaker 3: I ain't lying on them. I ain't making up those
Speaker 3: stories like it hurt me. They haven't even had that.
Speaker 3: It's this dog skin brother, you know, he was like
Speaker 3: brown skinned. Okay, I see them all.
Speaker 1: He was like a brown when he was telling me.
Speaker 1: So I was like, damn, I didn't even know what
Speaker 1: to say to him, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: like it was like damn, like.
Speaker 3: It's sobody, what can you say to him? Like I
Speaker 3: don't there fighting for the lady and you come with that.
Speaker 3: I was like, Damn, that's a whole nother fighting watching
Speaker 3: what she was out there watching with me, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it was like, damn, man, it's just like.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I was at a loss and
Speaker 3: I'm usually he never had a lost for words.
Speaker 1: I found I would have been a loss of work
Speaker 1: and that was a loss man. So so when Chris
Speaker 1: said that, thinking about all that year, was just like,
Speaker 1: come on, oh, so I just want to clear that out.
Speaker 5: You have to clear because I'm glad you said it,
Speaker 5: because I was like, Yo, when I heard it back,
Speaker 5: I was like, damn it, she seems this thing fucked up.
Speaker 1: But the thing about it was we didn't even have
Speaker 1: all the details.
Speaker 3: So I asked him, I said, yo, yo, when you
Speaker 3: think about African man Bata and he was like fuck yo.
Speaker 3: But people don't understand part of being real. It's sometimes
Speaker 3: you got to you got to be wrong. Separate the two,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Sometimes you might have to
Speaker 3: tell your man he wronged, or sometimes you have to
Speaker 3: cross that street if you real.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And that's what happened. But
Speaker 1: that life.
Speaker 6: You know, folks in the roads come At the time
Speaker 6: we interviewed Cavers one, it was just a aroma.
Speaker 1: So none of us knew the facts right or wrong.
Speaker 1: And look at eff I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 6: The whole time I've brung up African about this thing
Speaker 6: is brilliant hip hop.
Speaker 1: He was kept looking is disappointed for me because in
Speaker 1: my organization that.
Speaker 3: I do and in the active is one of my friends,
Speaker 3: like real close friends.
Speaker 1: Is part of the you know nation. We love zool Nation.
Speaker 9: Exactly names and changed. Now like you what it has done.
Speaker 9: That's one's person. Like that's it, Like say, how you
Speaker 9: follow the message and not the message?
Speaker 1: That's why you motherfucker right cheek.
Speaker 6: But that's why if you see something in hip hop
Speaker 6: and something hip hop is not wrong, you can't blame
Speaker 6: the whole hip hop generation.
Speaker 1: You can't do that.
Speaker 18: You can't you know, I'm gonna someone you want to
Speaker 18: be cut off, please, So that's where we got to
Speaker 18: be heard account because when we see as the hip
Speaker 18: hop nation, if we don't say something is wrong.
Speaker 1: With it, right and theyked, they can say that it's.
Speaker 3: The whole hip hop nation watching somebody, And that means
Speaker 3: silence means accepted as bad as them when they when
Speaker 3: they don't do that after they shoot it, silence means
Speaker 3: except so if you not so you telling me, if
Speaker 3: I see something that's going on and I don't say nothing,
Speaker 3: that means I coach you, damn.
Speaker 1: And that's why we dropped. And that's what yo. But
Speaker 1: you know what that's People always ask.
Speaker 3: Like, what's it like in jail? And Yo, how come
Speaker 3: people come out bitter and this and that? And words
Speaker 3: really can't explain it, But it's that it's so many
Speaker 3: situations that you forced to to co sign from your
Speaker 3: silence because you want to go home, because.
Speaker 1: You want to get on that trailer.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because you ain't trying to
Speaker 3: be in a box, beat up your property and damnstate
Speaker 3: you in upstate, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 3: the ship that when you getting there selling got to
Speaker 3: look in the mirror when you know they pull that
Speaker 3: nigga out that line for nothing. They getting ready to
Speaker 3: do them dirty, and they like keep it moving, and
Speaker 3: you know we got that trailer Friday, and your bitch
Speaker 3: ain't trying to hear that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: So you keep it pushing.
Speaker 1: But you feel like a sucker. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's the ship that break the nigga down, That's the
Speaker 3: ship that make a nigga better, and that's and that's
Speaker 3: but that's the energy that got you got to use
Speaker 3: and say, all right, I did that at this situation,
Speaker 3: but now I'm free.
Speaker 1: I can't do that ever again, ever again.
Speaker 3: Like fun, I'm not gonna put my position myself in
Speaker 3: a position to be in that position again. But I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna put myself in a position to where I
Speaker 3: got a swile like that like that. I don't want
Speaker 3: I don't never want to look at my kids and
Speaker 3: say that I ain't do everything I could to make
Speaker 3: them better people or make the world better for them.
Speaker 3: I don't never want to add that conversation if I
Speaker 3: got to sit in jail for some ship that I
Speaker 3: that I lost my life or if I gotta lose
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 1: For some ship that I know that.
Speaker 3: You know, none of us want to Doctor King didn't
Speaker 3: want to die, you know, Malcolms didn't want to die.
Speaker 3: But they died doing the work that they know they
Speaker 3: was put here to do. So people are like, yo,
Speaker 3: you can't say this. I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you can't say it, but my spirit tells me that's
Speaker 3: what I'm supposed to say, and I'm moving in that.
Speaker 3: That's the hormor move every everything about me.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 3: My wife this morning was like, why you gotta because
Speaker 3: that's who I am.
Speaker 1: You married me because that's who I am. Now if
Speaker 1: you change your mind, that's what you But I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna stop being who I am. You gotta figure this out.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop. So you gotta figure out who
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 3: And that's that is the balance and the challenge that
Speaker 3: you gotta be with being who you are.
Speaker 1: Like you know who you are? Level spell bags this level,
Speaker 1: you gotta balance it. That's it. You gotta gotta balance it.
Speaker 3: Alima, be honest, brother, we really appreciate you and hip
Speaker 3: hop Yo.
Speaker 6: You was down with Native right. I was the first nigga, Chris,
Speaker 6: you were just interviewed, and what's that with Juju man?
Speaker 6: I mean, let's always to Juju and he stepping on
Speaker 6: our COVID. It was.
Speaker 1: Noticed, slipper. I felt like he had the way he lived.
Speaker 1: Willis yes, like, yeah, he was. He sniffed him out.
Speaker 1: I'm lying. I never I never never seen anything that
Speaker 1: I ever said. Heard you. It's a lie.
Speaker 3: But you know, for podcast purposes, we gotta you know
Speaker 3: your poem. I hate that, but I was the first Chris, Yes, yes, violator.
Speaker 1: You originated violator records records, oh you even boy management.
Speaker 3: Records records first snigger you before death, that relativity and
Speaker 3: then I ain't gonna lie outside. We was talking and
Speaker 3: you called him baby Chris. That was you called the
Speaker 3: baby Chris.
Speaker 1: That's the baby Chris.
Speaker 3: Nigga called him baby quest Chris, Baby Chris.
Speaker 1: What's that? Barbara? That's how people you got Barber's. You
Speaker 1: gotta relax, get them over there.
Speaker 3: But violated, So describe us Chris Lighty in the eighties,
Speaker 3: I mean Chris in the eighties.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember I was young.
Speaker 3: I'm like eleven, twelve thirteen when I met him, So
Speaker 3: he was running around with the Jungle Brothers, running around
Speaker 3: with Krus.
Speaker 1: He's just niggas.
Speaker 3: You know, I come home from school here, I'm doing
Speaker 3: your work watching rap City, so you know, and then
Speaker 3: I'm a bronx nigga. So like Karris One, like like
Speaker 3: he was everything to me. Everything here rest the Jungle
Speaker 3: Brothers and like when I record record, Chris, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know you have to teach you with the most disrespectful,
Speaker 1: the most listen. I listened to Bridges over the other day.
Speaker 6: I wanted to shoot myself and big what I was.
Speaker 6: So I was like, because that's care restman.
Speaker 3: I grew up to them and Chris brought me around them.
Speaker 3: But how did you meet Chris through Latifa? Latifa? You
Speaker 3: just say that Roddie always in the broad because Allison
Speaker 3: and Kick of her dances lived in co Op and
Speaker 3: it was like a summer like co Op City.
Speaker 6: So I'm from you know, I know co Op City
Speaker 6: because you're the only other hood that got Terroces and we.
Speaker 1: Got left Rafcord.
Speaker 3: So I always in the co Op City was my niggas.
Speaker 3: She was living with her dances that summer. Everybody was
Speaker 3: coming like her dancers was bad, you know, they I
Speaker 3: didn't know what then. I was young, but they was
Speaker 3: around a little you know, you know, but not every
Speaker 3: like special Lags E p m D. The Jungle everything,
Speaker 3: talking about Tom. Everybody was coming through.
Speaker 1: You gotta relax, you E p m B.
Speaker 3: With all of them used to be up there, so
Speaker 3: thinks I'm eleven twelve, All of these niggas coming through.
Speaker 1: And then you had good head.
Speaker 3: You had all the brothers that went to high school together.
Speaker 3: So it was chea, you coming upstairs. We cook it
Speaker 3: all right, go in the living room. We're smoking that
Speaker 3: type ship. So I used to just be around and
Speaker 3: want to touch money love, but.
Speaker 1: I had to brush your back, love.
Speaker 3: You're still looking good at you, right baby? So it
Speaker 3: was just yo. That's how I got with Chris because
Speaker 3: they would be there him and shot him.
Speaker 1: I was real cold, bigger shot play. And one time
Speaker 1: I probably came running flex right now, I need to
Speaker 1: get with shot on net flex right shot. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: gotta rife preserver, you know, we gotta do the the story.
Speaker 1: We gotta lord, you gotta do it these streets. You
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But and from that me and Christians developed a relationship
Speaker 3: just running around like they was girls.
Speaker 1: So a lot of times he'ple like, you're coming with
Speaker 1: me when I'm going over.
Speaker 3: Here, I'll be like all right, And then didn't show
Speaker 3: with the Jungle Brothers at the Apollo.
Speaker 1: This niggas is history. Just Jesus hit us with mad history.
Speaker 3: You can't quit.
Speaker 1: I was you, it was crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm glad I started young because I'm not as old
Speaker 3: as I feel like I should be. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I feel like most of them niggas
Speaker 3: is closer to fifty. Yeah, and I'm forty. So are
Speaker 3: you forty then forty? I'll be forty this year I'll
Speaker 3: be forty one. And are you one year older than me?
Speaker 1: I'm eleven days younger than Mice doing twenty five that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm definitely twenty seven twenty seven nights.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You're right, I'm never onely twenty seven. No,
Speaker 1: I'm young.
Speaker 3: Any listen, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: So how did you meet Black Sheet Dress and Black Sheep?
Speaker 3: How did you do them through Chris at the time.
Speaker 3: I think when I signed, Chris was managing them. I
Speaker 3: think he had helped him get the deal in PolyGram, so.
Speaker 1: PO ain't even around.
Speaker 3: No, more, look at the murcury, the universe, I think
Speaker 3: on everything.
Speaker 1: You've been in the money for a long time, a.
Speaker 3: Long time, so so so so so what's the question again?
Speaker 1: How did you be dressed?
Speaker 18: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just being in the students. We used to
Speaker 3: be at Calliope. I was recorded. I had just started
Speaker 3: recording while he was recording. They was finishing up their album.
Speaker 3: And Chris basically had told Dress.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I was a kid. I was let
Speaker 1: me twelve, like told Dress you was the first round.
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 3: Chris told Dress, you know, basically it was like, yo,
Speaker 3: you know, y'all got to help with the project.
Speaker 1: You know, Chris was the executive producer. He moles, don't
Speaker 1: call in the shots.
Speaker 3: And then me and Dress just took to each other
Speaker 3: because everybody was like, oh my god, y'all look like brothers.
Speaker 1: Look much like his mom. She was like, y'all look
Speaker 1: like I mean, we like family now, you know.
Speaker 3: But and then we just started hanging out like Dreds
Speaker 3: just took me under the wind.
Speaker 1: This beautiful thing. Yo.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest with you in case you didn't
Speaker 6: never knew how much hip hop appreciate you, how much
Speaker 6: hip hop owes you how much hip hop wants to
Speaker 6: big you up.
Speaker 1: Two homie and component like, yo on some real ship.
Speaker 1: My man. I'm trying to get y'allut to have with
Speaker 1: it in d C.
Speaker 3: We got you like yo, y'all want to y'all got
Speaker 3: one of my favorite rap brules. We got one of
Speaker 3: the best rap albums. It's especially by a group like
Speaker 3: and Everything.
Speaker 1: It was your dad. I love so topic ships.
Speaker 3: They said, they said, they said Chili is on the run,
Speaker 3: And everywhere I was going, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, gee, you here, he had you chee, but
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna I want the dress. One night you
Speaker 1: had Jamaican on.
Speaker 3: I was insincing, and this thing used to write me
Speaker 3: letters like yo.
Speaker 1: I was just at the show man, but I'm this
Speaker 1: thing is he's going to ry. He on the run.
Speaker 1: And then I heard the interview I did, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: he was on the run like fifteen months. But you
Speaker 1: said the nigger bags, I'd be like, your bags? You
Speaker 1: think I should go ahead? Yeah? Man for that ship's
Speaker 1: funny bags my back, yo.
Speaker 6: But my son, my me and Mice we've been speaking
Speaker 6: a lot, like we've been speaking, and I wanted mice
Speaker 6: to know that not only did I want to do
Speaker 6: the interview, but I wanted to do I wanted a
Speaker 6: special moment.
Speaker 1: You hit me at the blow and when you hit me.
Speaker 6: I was like, damn, I just want to put my
Speaker 6: two ill look up to y'all, even though y'all could
Speaker 6: probably pick me up and fuck that.
Speaker 3: We all look up to each other. That's what makes
Speaker 3: me like, so I fucks with y'all. So I said,
Speaker 3: I'm a rather dude this together. So then you hit
Speaker 3: me and you said he was gonna be in Miami.
Speaker 1: But I thought about it. I said, nah, I want
Speaker 1: to hang with him in Miami.
Speaker 6: I don't want to come with you and your every
Speaker 6: business and all this dumb ship. I'm about to do
Speaker 6: this ship in New York. Let's get it knocked out.
Speaker 6: But I'm just telling y'all, Bronx.
Speaker 3: Can be proud of y'all right now, because y'all are.
Speaker 3: When I look at Bronx the praticle, I think of
Speaker 3: Fat Jokes and I think of YouTube brothers appreciate. I
Speaker 3: could never take it away from Fat Joke because that's
Speaker 3: my brother and I love him.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been he's been around since I've been
Speaker 1: around a long time. I love then take that from
Speaker 1: and they too.
Speaker 3: Person yeah rich, But I didn't like the second this record,
Speaker 3: the second one.
Speaker 1: I don't even think they even let it get too
Speaker 1: fun to take that over YouTube right now? The second
Speaker 1: what's the second second one? You're still on YouTube? The
Speaker 1: first one I.
Speaker 6: Was in, I was in you did that, but the
Speaker 6: second one and then now you know, big ship the
Speaker 6: album is tough.
Speaker 1: They got a nice album.
Speaker 3: Mom. The album is holl announce Drink Chance first it
Speaker 3: was announced. So again, I just want to big your
Speaker 3: brothers up.
Speaker 6: I want your brothers to know that in hip hop
Speaker 6: sometimes we don't do this.
Speaker 1: We don't do what I'm doing right now. We don't
Speaker 1: say you appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Brenda would have never threw her baby away if somebody
Speaker 6: would have told Brenda you appreciate hate it. So this
Speaker 6: is what I this is what I started this for.
Speaker 6: I just want to tell people.
Speaker 3: See, your stories is one of the really stories in
Speaker 3: hip hop. Both of you brother stories is one of
Speaker 3: the most really stories in hip hop. But when I
Speaker 3: looked at that flat teep Me interview, I watched you.
Speaker 1: And I looked at your mannerisms and I looked at it.
Speaker 3: I said, that is an aura that should be represented
Speaker 3: because you didn't pick it up, you didn't glorify it.
Speaker 6: He said, this is what I did, and I'm not
Speaker 6: proud of it, and that right there should be the
Speaker 6: pinnacle of how we.
Speaker 1: Teach our youth what you did.
Speaker 3: And I know probably you know I love Troy, but
Speaker 3: Troy probably could look at this and say, GLORI, why
Speaker 3: do you let it know? That is not what we did.
Speaker 3: We are just letting people speak their truths. Your version
Speaker 3: of the truth was so crazy.
Speaker 1: Every real nigga in.
Speaker 6: The world sat back and said, that's how you're supposed
Speaker 6: to do it. Me, I don't have the courage to
Speaker 6: do that. I don't have the courage to sometimes call
Speaker 6: somebody on their bullshit. But you did. And I'm not
Speaker 6: saying his shit is bullshit.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I'm not dicing him as.
Speaker 3: Tentpation to me, you know, because because whenever, whenever.
Speaker 6: You get on anywhere and you and you and you
Speaker 6: start to big up something that should be picked up,
Speaker 6: that should be shut down immediately, because we got to
Speaker 6: we have responsibilities as adults.
Speaker 3: And I don't give a fuck if you don't want
Speaker 3: to be a role model. Guess what, you a fucking
Speaker 3: role model. There's somebody on that screen, there's somebody that
Speaker 3: does something people think.
Speaker 6: So again, I'm not you know, I'm not shipping on
Speaker 6: slime and no way shape form or fashion.
Speaker 1: But when you stepped up, first off you had did it.
Speaker 3: Uh the Instagram John, then you actually went to the
Speaker 3: breakfast club. And when you went to the breafast club,
Speaker 3: you explain yourself so accurately.
Speaker 1: You explain yourself so that I sat back and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, damn nice, and I was gonna call you,
Speaker 3: but I said, you know what, let me let everybody
Speaker 3: else call me, and I'm gonna call him later.
Speaker 6: Because I know he knows I appreciate what he's doing.
Speaker 6: And so for us to be right here, right now,
Speaker 6: there's nothing more than I want to do, Like.
Speaker 1: I got this platform.
Speaker 6: So what you know, what's more important than about me
Speaker 6: having this platform is me giving love views like you properly,
Speaker 6: I got it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 6: I don't want to interview these new guys. These new guys,
Speaker 6: they got one record and they want to. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: You gotta you got you got you gotta earn your
Speaker 3: ship to come overhead.
Speaker 15: Fuck the new guys, y'all, y'all ain't even know. I
Speaker 15: can't see the world, hate your saturated miss you you're listening.
Speaker 15: I say one thing, these are my No, No, you're not.
Speaker 1: The young niggas. You gotta.
Speaker 13: I'm just saying I don't got to you gotta care.
Speaker 13: I don't even gotta do a care. But I understand that,
Speaker 13: all right. It's not the which y'all say real hip
Speaker 13: hop or the reginal No, that's not what I said.
Speaker 1: That never said.
Speaker 3: I'm saying over because they're saying, you know, niggas never
Speaker 3: said that.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 13: But I feel like then this is just saving ain't
Speaker 13: us some certain stans like getting up getting like who
Speaker 13: kind of kids?
Speaker 3: I was not not you you gotta I got a kid.
Speaker 3: I'm directly and you can't gotta care.
Speaker 1: One, you gotta care.
Speaker 3: And two to the reason why I can't interview new
Speaker 3: niggas is because I've never been on tour with them.
Speaker 11: I never.
Speaker 1: I never have a relationship. I never, I never. I
Speaker 1: never seen them on the run and they come to
Speaker 1: my shows like that's different. This nigga was on and
Speaker 1: run in my show like you g I almost want
Speaker 1: to say, you gotta relax, but he came and he
Speaker 1: came with eat money bags.
Speaker 3: That's history, that's relationship. Am I saying the new niggas
Speaker 3: can't build their history. Of course they can, but not here,
Speaker 3: not now.
Speaker 1: You're not to do slime.
Speaker 3: But the more you come up, I'm gonna watch it
Speaker 3: because the one thing for show or two things for
Speaker 3: certain I gotta respect creativity, creativity.
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck even if you don't like it.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna respect creativity.
Speaker 1: Expressing yourself because it's expression. People gotta earn you too,
Speaker 1: people gotta learn it.
Speaker 6: So the thing is with me is I actually had
Speaker 6: a manager, that nigga that he talked about me. He said, Chris,
Speaker 6: I actually had a manager that.
Speaker 3: Actually cared about my creativity, and he actually cared about
Speaker 3: my financial That doesn't exist. Almost these niggas donna give
Speaker 3: a fuck about you. The nigga's gonna come, they're gonna say,
Speaker 3: all right, cool, you got a good record, You beat
Speaker 3: a bougie and that's it.
Speaker 6: So what I'm trying to say is I want to
Speaker 6: big up to people who survived the era that I
Speaker 6: survived to survive the fucking shit, and it ain't about
Speaker 6: financial because you can survive and you can still be down.
Speaker 1: I want to respect the people that went through what
Speaker 1: I went through and more and they still did like
Speaker 1: a man because it's so terrible. This business is horrible.
Speaker 1: It's so horrible.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna lie. I'm a smile
Speaker 6: for you as soon as the camera go off. This
Speaker 6: ship is not that way. So when I smiled when
Speaker 6: the camera's off, that's genuine. But you've ever seen Karye, You've.
Speaker 1: Seen on me black.
Speaker 6: Then he see the camera on and be like, you
Speaker 6: know what that is? That's pain. It's pain because he's
Speaker 6: been fronting so long. I'm not saying front like in
Speaker 6: a bad way.
Speaker 1: It looks at the chain work again. You can't wear
Speaker 1: your jewelry and queens no more City boy d. They
Speaker 1: try to. They try to snatch him. They whip him out.
Speaker 1: They got it, they whipped him out, but they try
Speaker 1: to snatch the chain.
Speaker 3: Come to queens anytime or Jerry had you gotta yesterday
Speaker 3: it was rough for you.
Speaker 1: Let's make the name of city boy. But listen, let's
Speaker 1: got his shine, he got his ship, He got his ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Hill, he will kill whoever.
Speaker 3: I won't over there, but my bros nigga Mike Move,
Speaker 3: Mike Move. He never put me in a headlock. He
Speaker 3: put me in a headlocked yesterday. He was like, everybody,
Speaker 3: you're the only one that can't swing. I'm but listen.
Speaker 3: Hip hop deserves to continue to continue to celebrate hip hop.
Speaker 3: We deserve our people, City Boy, the young really, motherfucking
Speaker 3: who else.
Speaker 1: We deserve to sit back and just continue to support each.
Speaker 3: Other because if we don't, there will be nobody else
Speaker 3: that support us. So when you got a legend like
Speaker 3: she I leave with the Mond Cleare T shirt on,
Speaker 3: that's very expressive t shirt, very expencive at least eight
Speaker 3: at least.
Speaker 1: But we gotta continue. We gotta continue to do that.
Speaker 1: And my song that's how we own it. We love it.
Speaker 1: You got to remake.
Speaker 3: I got that point, okay, one point. I got media
Speaker 3: game together a little bit and got a record. Let's
Speaker 3: talk about this record.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the record. Let's talk about the body. Body.
Speaker 1: We just finished relation suous. I don't know that man, women, women, female,
Speaker 1: Oh body that's from the Brocks. You can't we have
Speaker 1: a ready. You gotta say female the Brocks. You can't
Speaker 1: somebody I'm a fan, so my son. These niggas catching
Speaker 1: on the kids. It's funny. Too much keeping it from you.
Speaker 11: I get it.
Speaker 1: Please change it to female.
Speaker 3: But yeah, y'all too, can't already terror of the video? Come,
Speaker 3: you got to see the video though we don't already
Speaker 3: we shot already.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the film is on filmed it.
Speaker 1: You can't say this film out triggered. You can't trigger around,
Speaker 1: you can't alright, gonna let your niggas, my nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I went too far, know and you took
Speaker 1: a straight shot of survive.
Speaker 3: That's all I drinks delicate.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this though. If I put you
Speaker 1: in the bell, you're not getting out.
Speaker 18: Yo.
Speaker 1: See. I can't think you about enough. Listen. I want
Speaker 1: to continue to support. I don't want to even say
Speaker 1: real niggas.
Speaker 6: I want to continue to say I want to support
Speaker 6: substance offense, you.
Speaker 1: Know, just like authenticity.
Speaker 6: But I want to continue to support niggas like you, brothers,
Speaker 6: because you know why behind the scenes, when a person
Speaker 6: say a person is a real nigga, that's one thing.
Speaker 6: But then what happens when it is behind the scenes,
Speaker 6: when the nigga could actually say it there and give
Speaker 6: you a five and laugh. That to me is a
Speaker 6: real nigga. Like all the realist niggas I ever met,
Speaker 6: was never loud. The loud niggas the pussy nigga, and
Speaker 6: I'm loud, so maybe I might be pussy too. But
Speaker 6: the loud nigga, what I'm saying, is the nigga that
Speaker 6: assists there and has fun and he smiles. That's the
Speaker 6: nigga I'm always worried about because I know that he wanted,
Speaker 6: he got something to rest. But when the gods just
Speaker 6: and this is what we got to continue to support
Speaker 6: and hip hop. And I really can't thank you enough.
Speaker 6: Che Thank you appreciate having about hanging out in Miami.
Speaker 6: I did this here unless come to Miami. It's a
Speaker 6: totally different.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be like that I'm different in Miami,
Speaker 1: but my song.
Speaker 6: I can't thank you enough because you know what I'm
Speaker 6: going to continue to do it I gotta do. That's
Speaker 6: how we wanted the remixes out Body.
Speaker 3: Body So videos that I'm gonna click the link in
Speaker 3: my bio b x mice On in what general Instagram
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Speaker 1: That's how the dream if the Bronx, it's not.
Speaker 6: If you felt like the Bronx wasn't alive, the Bronx
Speaker 6: is alive tonight. Wow today b X's reign supreme other
Speaker 6: than the Bridges over record, I kind of still don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really like that my brother show. That's my nigga.
Speaker 1: D I t telling me studio studio is tough. You
Speaker 1: gotta listening parties over that. That's my nephew. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: I gotta be holler on your nephew. You gotta be
Speaker 6: horder on your fan to thank y'all once again. And
Speaker 6: we're gonna go on up balcony and smoke us cheap
Speaker 6: and wanting to smoke this back way forever.
Speaker 1: You can't. You you were like, I ain't gonna lie drinking.
Speaker 1: Came over here getting wet right now, and you drink
Speaker 1: it straight. I ain't gonna lie. I was worried.
Speaker 3: Drink stomach, and I'm an drink chap. I'm an alcoholic
Speaker 3: and I'm not even drinking straight. When I looked, I said, damn,
Speaker 3: but I wanted you to get drunk because that's that's
Speaker 3: my wholehood.
Speaker 1: But at the same talking as a friend, I was
Speaker 1: worried about you. You let's do it. I'm not drink,
Speaker 1: I gotta picture and