WEBVTT - Daniel & Matthew Libman Disobey Bridger 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:15.080 But I invited you here. I thought I made myself 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:22.040 perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:27.880 gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.800 you're our presences presents enough. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:36.560 I already had too much stuff, So how did you 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.880 dare to surbey me? 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:53.960 Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger weird. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:55.760 Uh what's going on? 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:56.800 Uh? 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.000 All people wanted me to talk about. I went and 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:03.560 did the skydiving that Chris Grace gave to me. The 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.720 I fly at the Universal City Walk, which is kind 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.560 of the gem of Los Angeles. I went at eleven 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:16.080 am last Wednesday. Had the time of my life, just 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.920 a thrill. I mean, if the instructor had just let 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.120 me do my own thing, it probably have been more exciting. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.200 But he held on to me the entire time. No 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.560 one will just let me be me ah, and I 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.760 probably won't go back. I mean, this is in the 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:36.080 middle of a mall, in the middle of a theme park, 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:40.199 so it's not that accessible. But I had a wonderful time. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.679 It's changed me and you're going to feel that throughout 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.959 the rest of the episodes of this podcast, So just 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:50.000 buckle up. I adore today's guests. I just think they're 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:54.360 so wonderful. It's Matthew and Daniel Lipman. You guys welcomed. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.760 I said, no gifts, thank you for having us, Thank 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.160 you so much of course. Well, I mean you begged 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:00.040 for months. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.880 Yeah, months, years. We had a bit when you started 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:08.480 the podcast that we were offended. That was only kind 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.080 of half a bit, uh, that we hadn't been asked. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.720 And I think it was five years ago. When was that? 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.399 I think it's been it's almost five years. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.880 Yeah, yeah, so the pretty much for the entire run 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.520 and all the podcasts you've done. How many times have 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.520 I sent you the Instagram post about the podcast since? Yes? 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.359 Hmm yeah, really scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.639 probably there have been multiple friends of ours who have 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.160 been on I think three or four times. Yeah, I 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.200 think do you think got her five time? Or she's 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:39.960 got the jacket? 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.760 She said she had to be on a fifth time 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.359 before you too would be allowed? 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:44.360 How is it up to her? 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.880 Well, it's just kind of a shadow producer. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:48.160 Got it, got it? Got it? 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:48.359 Well? 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.480 It is truly an honored reader. We're very excited. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:51.360 I'm thrilled to have you. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.480 How are you? We're great, We're really really good. I 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.519 think he downgraded it already. I think we're okay. I 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.560 think we're going We're gonna be mad by the time 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.800 by the end. We're doing okay. I think we're doing fine. 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.560 I'm very happy to be here. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.640 Though, Okay, fantastic. Uh what was I going to ask you? 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.640 I can't even remember. I'm so bamboozled by YouTube being here. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.120 Is there any way you could tell us a little 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.680 more about the skydiving because I was really interested a. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.799 Gift I was given on the podcast a few weeks ago, 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.000 which I was genuinely frequently on this podcast. I'm like, oh, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:25.880 this is something I just have to put in a closet. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:26.399 Got it. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.600 But it was the skydiving, and the guest at, Chris Grace, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.519 had listened to a prior episode where apparently I told 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.800 people I wanted to do indoor skydiving, which you didn't 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:37.480 even remember. I don't. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.080 I don't know why, but it was a completely lie. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.120 I mean, we tried to impress some lot of I 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:43.760 drove the base. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:49.000 Yeah yeah, they were walking by and they lowered their sunglasses. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.480 I would endoor skydive. Oh yeah, certainly. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:53.280 No. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.000 I mean, I guess it is something in line with 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.320 something I would say I would like to do and 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.960 then not want to pay for it as most of 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.120 my life is it. If he hadn't been on the podcast, 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.960 I probably would have wanted to do it my entire 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.560 life and then died. So he really he stepped in 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.920 and got me skydive and got it. But you go 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.280 to the city Walk, I don't know what, have you 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:11.960 been to the city Walk? 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:12.080 Oh? 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.000 Yeah, of course love the city Walk? Or the Universal 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:16.880 City Yeah? Oh got it? That's the one. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.719 Yes, if the listener is not familiar, it's a mall. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.800 It's all an outdoor mall, but it's like attached to Universal. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.599 It's attached to Universal Studios, and you have to pay 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.400 the full theme park parking price. Do you have you 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:29.920 noticed now? 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.039 This is something that us really stressing me out the 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:32.960 entire exp. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.159 Right, it's crazy. So if you go to a movie, right, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.080 you go in the parking structure, it's just like a 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.880 regular it's like a mall. But because it's the same 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.080 parking structure as the theme park. When you would expect 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.400 theme park parking to be wildly expensive, extort, You're right, 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.960 it's thirty five dollars to park, and they're like and 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.200 they're like, okay, no problem. You just have to bring 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.680 this thing and then you get what's it called. You 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.919 get relation and you get validation, and then they reimburse 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:06.680 you thirty dollars cash to give you cat the craziest 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.440 thing in the entire city. I didn't have to deal 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.920 with any of that. And then I'm stressed walking back 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.400 through the mall with thirty dollars cash because that's a 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.880 lot of money to be walking through all like that. Yeah. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.960 Yeah, well, the I fly indoors skydiving. Okay, they really 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.640 they give you at all. I got to do Ballet 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.359 Wow for free. If I brought back my certificate of 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.599 being a first time flyer. I was happy to rub 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:29.279 that in people's face. 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.240 Oh my god, are you kidding? You're laminating that thing 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:31.920 and putting in on. 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.680 The next strangers in the malla? 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.560 Do you think they were when r Kelly went down? 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.240 It had to be the themesistently it was. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.320 It was early quiet, right. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:42.680 Was it? 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:42.920 Ever? 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.760 I believe I can fly, and then they just like 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.720 they brought out most. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.240 That's another business altogether. Just I believe it's like a 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.240 franchise of churches or something. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.400 That's a whole other thing. So so you did it, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.800 and then you wanted you had ideas that they wouldn't 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.000 let you execute because as. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.080 The cradle you when your first time there, you have 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.160 to become like an expert in order for them to 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.000 just let you do it. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:07.440 Got it. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.640 Okay, So the guy's holding you like a baby the 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:10.160 whole time. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.200 Fairness with them. They did say no professionals. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.680 Yeah, yeah, so it was, but it was exciting. I 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.440 paid dicks or twenty dollars to go all the way 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.000 to the top, okay, and it's so exhausting. God, you 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.960 get down and you're tired. So I just kind of 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.720 Have either of you ever been skydiving? 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:26.960 No? 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:31.360 No, not interesting the plane jumping type. Literally, I'm not 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.320 a thrill seeker, not thrill seeking bone in my box. No, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.480 I'm good, I might track you. I'm okay, honestly that 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.719 I'm a hard no on that indoor skydiving. I think 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.239 any type of diving. I don't even really like diving 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.480 in a swimming pool. The ocean, yeah, oh, I'm not 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.400 a fan of the ocean. The ocean is. The ocean 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:48.880 is terrible. 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:49.719 It's a bad bull. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:51.800 No, there's no reason for it. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.120 We should be filling it with garbage, more garbage. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.480 I don't I don't mind that at all. I mean, listen, 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.839 I like looking at it, and I like being in 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.400 a hotel room where you can see it sure, or 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.440 even better, at a pool where you have a view 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.119 of it. I don't mind an infinity pool that looks 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.440 like it's part of the ocean, but actually it is 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:09.840 the Number one lives? 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:10.560 Are you leading? 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:10.800 No? 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:14.080 No, No, I've seen these. I've seen on TV. I've 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.880 seen it. I watch very expensive TV. I take really 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:22.840 expensive TV vacations. Yeah, yeah, but no, that's the dream. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.080 And then, because honestly, the sand is annoying. I can't 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.640 get over the idea that you could be just like 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.520 bopping around in a body of water and get eaten 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.720 by something. It's terrifying. It doesn't make any sense. But 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.480 why volunteer to go in that thing? That's what I'm saying. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.280 It's like, there's really no reason for like, you wouldn't 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.600 go like swimming in a trash heap. There's just too 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.120 many things that could go wrong, right, I feel like 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.600 more things can go wrong. Yeah, I feel much more 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:49.520 comfortable in a trash. 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.160 Yeah, there are many sharks, dangerous fish. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.080 I think you could wear like some type of armor 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.720 and dive in a trash heap and be okay. Although 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.680 maybe in an infinity pool with a view of a 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.680 trash sheep that is the hotel you want to that 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.440 or an infinity trash heat that's oh my god. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.520 It literally looks like in Yeah, you can't see the edge. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.600 Because I hate when I heard a trash heap and 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.280 then it's got that rim around it. Yeah, so ugly. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.040 And then it's got the thing where it lowers the 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.800 like differently abled folks into it and had things an 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.560 iore on trash. Yeah, no one wants that. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.680 No, I like, I think my biggest problem with the 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.360 ocean is to drive home. Got it if I can 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.760 get to a shower quickly within three minutes of being 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:35.280 in the ocean. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:42.480 But that's so rare, it's impossible. Everywhere. Yeah, take fountain 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.439 not from the ocean, doesn't go that far it is. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.760 It is a pain in the amount of sand everywhere. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.199 Then you need I mean, I like a clean car. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:56.040 You gotta get your car detailed. I mean, I love 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.280 taking my there's a dog beach in Malibu that we 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.560 would take the Yeah, I love bragging about the public 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:07.160 dog beach. It's truly accessible to everyone who's alive. We 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.640 can go there. It's amazing. It's very far. But my 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.800 dog is so dirty and sandy that my car is ruined. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.000 Does your dog like the beach? 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:15.520 Love? 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.120 So you're keeping the dog from. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.880 The loves it. I'm keeping the dog for a number 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.840 of reasons, but the dogs. But the dog is stupid. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.839 The dog, Oh sorry, he doesn't like the ocean. He 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.720 likes the beach just fine. But also he's never really 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.079 had the opportunity to swim in an infinity pool or 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.679 an infinity trash heap. Right, right, right, I could have 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.480 one of those trash you could broaden his horizon. Can 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.280 you take a dog to a trash heap? That's a 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:44.559 good question. Some of them are not pets. Some of 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.640 them yeah, well there you can have a pet, but 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:48.880 it has to be on a leaves. Yeah you can't. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.280 Just there's no that's annoying. But they say that you can't. Whatever, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:53.560 it's it's a whole thing. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.040 What is the most thrilling thing either of you have 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.520 ever done? Like a like oh, like in that Yeah, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.080 I mean edging towards and jumping out of a plane. 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.560 Oh my goodness. I went for a multi day hike 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.840 in in China that was like a like easily could 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:10.880 have died type. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.000 Of Wow, just feel outside of your real miscomfort. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.920 Yeah. I used to be so adventurous. The world has 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.440 beaten me down to basically being a living room dweller. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.600 I am to the point of just like the thought 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:24.920 of doing something is enough for me. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:32.559 There's nothing out there for me. I I enjoy being outdoors, 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.679 but not with a tremendous amount of risk. So like 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.959 a hike, I love like, I like, I'm not that 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.720 much of a couch potato I was. I love that phrase. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:40.920 By the way, I'm trying to bring it back. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:41.480 Yeah. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.760 By the way, remember because we're talking to my kids 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.920 about this, like it used to be like a negative thing. 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.880 If your kids just sat around and watched TV. Now 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.960 that would be like the best kid ever. Because enjoy 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.079 like being on TikTok. They're just like watching TV. I'd 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.200 be like, they like long for yacause I couldn't even 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.520 tell my friends. I'd be bragging. They would be like, Okay, 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.680 attention space excuse me. Yeah, you know, she's a bit 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:07.640 of a couch potato, not to brag much. Must be nice. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.800 She loves sitcoms. Oh my goodness, that's amazing. Good for her. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.520 It was called the tiger Leaping Gorge. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.800 Tiger Leaping Gorge, but. 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.600 That is the trip was getting there. You almost felt 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.319 it was on the way back. On the way. So 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.280 on the way back, you hike for multiple days, you 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:26.920 get to the end, and then you get a ride 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:31.720 back sort of along the less high part but still 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.439 high enough that he knows all the terms. Technically. Yeah, 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:42.360 I was quite the outdoor. Yeah, And essentially this driver 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.240 knows it like the back of their hand. And they're 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:49.120 driving incredibly fast, way too fast for my comfort. And 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.640 it's raining, and there's like parts of the road that 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.280 have fallen that have like made like waterfalls. It's like 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.040 a video game. And I read the following week that 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.280 a van exactly like the one that we were in 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.040 fell off the uh fell off the road and plummeted 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.959 to its death. The tourists in it, Wow, well you 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:18.040 beat them, Yeah, caught the break line or anything of 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:23.880 the van was opportunity because I didn't. I don't think 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.199 anyone would have assumed less until you said that. I 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.760 didn't deflate any of the tires or anything again when 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.400 I would. So you you got there and you're like, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.440 no one else will ever get to do this safely? Correct? 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.000 And so you, oh god you did. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.559 You wanted to be the last person to do it safely. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.800 Well, I wanted to prove a point that it wasn't safe. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.640 He likes to be the last person to do everything. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:46.640 Once he does it, no one else. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:48.640 Very exciting thing you do. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.560 This isn't safe, and I'll show you. Yeah watch how 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:52.719 watch how unsafe it is? 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.160 How did you end up in China? Was it? Did 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:59.320 somebody just bring up the idea? Was it a bachelor party? Yeah? 0:12:59.640 --> 0:12:59.920 You know the. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.360 China? Yeah, all those classic Yeah, it was wild. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:09.480 No. 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.720 I worked for the Olympics in two thousand and eight 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.600 as a reporter for the Olympic News Service. 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.120 Wow, I had no idea. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.840 I covered basketball men's and women's and then I stayed 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.840 and covered the Paralympics, where I covered sitting volleyball. Wow. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.600 Yeah, how long was that the only time you ever 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:24.839 did it? 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.600 I did it once. Yes, it was enough. It was unpaid. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:28.640 It was unpaid. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.319 Uh, Yeah, how did what? 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.280 I had no idea about this in your past. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:32.720 Yeah. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:34.920 Uh. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.760 After college, I was offered this opportunity to go and 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.000 do this, and I love basketball and I had literally 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.920 nothing else to do with my entire life, so I 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.600 said yes, and it was fantastic. I will say everyone 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.520 else knew this about him in the room that we 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.079 worked in, which is why we were so surprised that 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.160 you were the one who had a podcast, because we're like, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.560 he didn't ask Daniel any questions about himself at all. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.400 I wanted nothing to do with I, Like, have you 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.559 ever been to China? It would be like such a 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:10.040 normal you should ask everybody. You literally went down about travel? 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.000 Is like your area of interest? 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.679 Here? Has been to China? That's all I want to 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:15.280 know about any of it. 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.920 I need to show of hands, storming out of the 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.360 room so mad when no one had been. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:25.320 I have. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.320 I went on a Mormon mission to Malaysia. That's where 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.320 your mission is. Yes, so did you did you finish? 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:32.600 Did you? We were like and no. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:33.840 I associated there for two years. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.840 I was there for four months four minutes. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:38.840 Off. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.640 It was tropical, I'm sure. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:49.400 Yeah, Frosty entering and they got back on the plane 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:49.760 came home. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:51.040 Got it? Wait? 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.160 Why I got for I had a complete nervous breakdown. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.720 Got it? Okay, Tod Now I looked like a jerk. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.920 No, it's fine. I'm happy to talk about this because 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.080 I was twenty and it was clearly where the path 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.640 was headed. Right, when you don't quite believe in a thing, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.680 and then you go to the most rural, foreign place 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.200 you've ever been, and then you're on a bike for 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:12.200 eight hours a day. 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.320 Wait, part of it was being a that's how you 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:15.880 got from place to place. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.640 To Yeah, we were on bikes, bikes so long. Wow, 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.720 Because it's like a job, you're going around trying to 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.360 convert people. Yeah, right, so and then you're trying you're 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.760 converting you know, the poorest people you've ever met into 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.240 a church that you yourself. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.480 Are like, I don't know, I'm not sure this is 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:31.440 to help you at all. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.440 This might actually be first for your situation. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.720 You're going to have to give us all your money. 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.560 Yeah right, you're obviously swimming and Cass. 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.680 I've always wondered about that. I mean, we've all seen 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.120 the play, but like when they're handing it out like 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.720 you obviously, I mean it's a big thing, like people 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.000 are excited, like The Adorable bike Man. The bike Man 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.400 played the favorite musical, The Adorable bike Man Broadway smash 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.880 The Adorable bike Man. I loved it. It was one 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.360 of the better players I've seen. No, when they're handing out, like, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.280 how does it work like in the where they just 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.280 gather everyone and they're like, you're going here, You're going here. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.360 You're like to know where you're you're going on your 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:12.240 You get. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.320 A letter in the mail, you have a ton of 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.880 interviews beforehand, like to prove that you're like following the 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.360 rules all of this, And so do some people not 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.160 get to go? I mean most people get You have 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.600 to either like an idiot, be like a teen father, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.760 or be actively addicted to drugs? 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:29.760 What about both? 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:37.880 They're making it back, clean it up, put him a charge. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.240 You speak directly to God. Okay, you're on your way. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.360 Uh No, like being selected for a jury, would you 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.360 ever be like? But I don't like Malaysians. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.240 I think you can kind of hint at where you 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:51.960 would like to go. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:17:00.960 I want to I'm fluent. How does the hell in Hawaiian? 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.200 You like? They ask you a bunch of questions I 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.680 don't know if this lead to anything. And then you 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:08.879 get a letter in the mail and you open in 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.639 front of your family and that you find out right 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:12.320 then where you're going? 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.320 Got it? And where do you How did you feel 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:15.000 about Malaysia? 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.320 Well it was so it was to the Singapore Mission, 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:23.440 which covered Malaysia, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Malaysia and Singapore. 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.280 Wow, And so I was. I was thrilled. 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.360 I was like, oh, this sounds like a wonderful part 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:32.240 of the world to visit. I mean, but again on vacation, yes, sure, 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:37.320 But as a volunteer job where you're like, your only 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.200 social contact is one other person who you hate. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.000 Yeah, and you're on a bicycle. Oh wow, can't be overstated. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.479 You are on a bicycle and you hate each other? 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.120 Did they did? Did you hate that person before you left? 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.320 Do you know this person? I met him there? Got it? 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.200 And he was just the I mean, the opposite of 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.760 me in every single way. Got it, kind of not adorable, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:02.600 not adorable, bike a ball, he was very sweating, he. 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.000 Didn't sing at all when we rode. He knew Daniel 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:16.639 went to China. China. It's fine, but. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:21.320 Yeah, it was I'd like to go back, sure under 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:22.800 different circumstances. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.080 Which can I just sorry, we can get off this. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.000 How did you get out of it? You're just like 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:26.680 I need to leave. 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.400 I mean, I mean it's dark, it gets very dark. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.320 It we're probably too dark to a listener on this podcast, 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:34.960 and it's fine. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:41.159 Expecting a light romp are all my material is really 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:45.280 messing Matthew Blue twisted from the twisted mind of you 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:46.479 don't want to take a walk up here? 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:46.760 Man? 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:47.840 It is it's dark. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.879 It's a bad neighbor a bad neighborhood. No, I'm not uncomfortable. 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.639 I'm actually happy to talk about it. But it's just 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.800 like kind of yeah, it's a drag, but no, I 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.879