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Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast

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Speaker 1: build you from the inside out. Now here's Jay Glacier.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental wealth podcast with Jay Glazer.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay Glazer, and if you're like many people, you

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Speaker 2: may be surprised to learn that one in five adults

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Speaker 2: in this country experienced mental illness last year. If far

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Speaker 2: too many fail to receive the support they need, Carolyn,

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Speaker 2: behavioral health is doing something about it. They understand that

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Speaker 2: behavioral health is a key part of whole health, delivering

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Speaker 2: compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional, and social needs

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Speaker 2: and tantum tarile in behavioral health, raising the quality of

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Speaker 2: life through empathy and action. All right, Welcome into Unbreakable,

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Speaker 2: a mental wealth podcast with Jay Glazer. And Man, I

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Speaker 2: am bringing on somebody today who you all know, well

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Speaker 2: you think you know, but you don't know. And Man,

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Speaker 2: he is somebody I've gotten very close to at Fox

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Speaker 2: is one of the voices of Fox.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the voices of the NFL. He is

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Speaker 3: the voice of baseball.

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Speaker 2: I wish he was the voice in my head when

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Speaker 2: the roommates of my head talk, because it calmed me

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Speaker 2: down quite a bit, but he's leading our NFL coverage

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Speaker 2: here and that's the one and only Kevin Burkhart.

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Speaker 4: How are you, brothers? Great man, it's tough to live

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Speaker 4: up to that introduction, but it's always good to be

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Speaker 4: with you, brother. You know that when we get a

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Speaker 4: chance to spend some time.

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Speaker 2: Together, no doub man, dude, I love spending time with you,

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Speaker 2: and you and I really got to bond down in

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Speaker 2: Tampa a couple of years ago at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: And because I think you and I have you know,

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Speaker 2: I want people to hear this. He and I both

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Speaker 2: have a similar story as far as our journey was

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Speaker 2: so wild getting here and both it started for Jersey

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Speaker 2: with both of us right right and just wild how

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Speaker 2: we got here. And people think, oh, you know, you

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Speaker 2: may have just seen kevinet's an overnight success. Y'all got

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Speaker 2: no idea that overnight success for him was what like

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Speaker 2: thirty years, so.

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Speaker 5: It took quite a minute.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was making ninety five hundred bucks a

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Speaker 2: year for the first eleven years of my career. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I want to hit a lot of things

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Speaker 2: with you, but I want you to take us back

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Speaker 2: to where you were. How it started because you weren't

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Speaker 2: doing this, you were selling cars, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it goes back, It goes back a bit,

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Speaker 4: and you're right. We had a great time. It was

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Speaker 4: fun that, you know, when we were down at the

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Speaker 4: super Bowl. You know, we had known each other obviously,

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Speaker 4: as you know, coworkers acquaintances, but that was really cool

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Speaker 4: getting to dive into each other's world spent a time.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we really bonded, So that was great.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Kevin, if you hear him on the

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Speaker 2: broadcast and you're like, man, this guy seems like a

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Speaker 2: good guy. He's a better person than you even think.

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Speaker 2: So that's the authenticity. And I think people that's a

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Speaker 2: big thing because people have the choice foo did they

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Speaker 2: want to bring in to their living room? Right, more

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Speaker 2: so with us with a pregame show, but still a choice. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I choose to bring this person into my living room

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Speaker 2: each week to hear what they have to say. And you,

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Speaker 2: by far, I think people looking and go, man, we

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Speaker 3: In our living room having a cocktail wealth us watching

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Speaker 4: That's how I was thinking, right, I always think of

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Speaker 4: Like I always feel like the best way like A,

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Speaker 4: the game or whatever it is. That's the best compliment

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of the mindset.

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Speaker 4: And as far as your question goes glaze, Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: know you've said this many a time in just life,

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Speaker 4: I was doing, you know, working at a small radio

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Speaker 4: I got to be an adult and you know, actually

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Speaker 4: So I just decided to kind of quit and sell cars.

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Speaker 4: And it was a life changing moment for me. I

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Speaker 2: So did I same guy in nineteen eighty nine, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: How are you as a car salesman?

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't sell the most cars, but I actually,

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Speaker 5: People that that ball from me were happy I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't make the most money, but I did.

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Speaker 2: So then what got you out of the car business?

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Speaker 5: I was going to be the reporter for the jets.

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Speaker 4: he's done that for same thing.

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Speaker 5: So he didn't miss many games.

441
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Speaker 4: But when he did out fill in and I would

442
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,359
Speaker 4: do like the spring training games and we had some

443
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Speaker 4: minor league games on our air that I would do,

444
00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,439
Speaker 4: and it came I don't know what year this was,

445
00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,560
Speaker 4: but maybe I was atis and wife for eight years,

446
00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,800
Speaker 4: so maybe four years in somehow I got a Fox

447
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Speaker 4: a chance to do like one of our Saturday Game

448
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Speaker 4: of the Weeks on Saturday, like they needed a guy

449
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Speaker 4: and it was a Mets game, so they asked me

450
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Speaker 4: to do it, which was obviously a huge moment. So

451
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Speaker 4: I jumped in and uh, you know Bill Webb, the

452
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Speaker 4: late Bill web Rest in piece. It was one of

453
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Speaker 4: my mentors director for the World Series Forever for Fox.

454
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Speaker 4: He did it for the Mets and for Yankees. He

455
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Speaker 4: helped me, and you know Carol Langley, he was a

456
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Speaker 4: producer that day. It just kind of helped me like, Okay,

457
00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,160
Speaker 4: here's how to like do baseball for Fox, and here's

458
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Speaker 4: the Fox way, and this is the way we like

459
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Speaker 4: to go about things. And it was so good. So

460
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Speaker 4: I did that, and I guess I did it okay

461
00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,840
Speaker 4: enough because I did a couple more of those. And

462
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Speaker 4: then before the twenty thirteen season, that's when stuff kind

463
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Speaker 4: of happened about me going to Fox. And initially the

464
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,080
Speaker 4: talk was they're going to give me college football and

465
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Speaker 4: do like some kind of college football play by play package.

466
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Speaker 5: So I was so psyched.

467
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Speaker 4: I was still working for the Mets, and it somehow

468
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,080
Speaker 4: turned around in a really quick amount of time that

469
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Speaker 4: I went from that to doing the Number two package

470
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Speaker 4: with John Lynch, and I was like, huh what Oh.

471
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Speaker 4: So it was one of the greatest calls in my life. Wow,

472
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Speaker 4: And you know, I broke down crying when I got it.

473
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Speaker 5: Good. I love to hear that, Oh my gosh.

474
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like everything you dream of as a kid,

475
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,119
Speaker 4: and you get that call and it it was I

476
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Speaker 4: was incredible.

477
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Speaker 5: I was incredulous.

478
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Speaker 4: So twenty thirteen I did the NFL on Fox and

479
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Speaker 4: I'm still doing the Mets, but you know, a little

480
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Speaker 4: bit of overlap.

481
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Speaker 5: It was fine. And then the next year of the

482
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Speaker 5: talk was to go to Fox full time?

483
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Speaker 2: Did you start because Lynch, she didn't start anti number

484
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Speaker 2: two guy? Right, he started.

485
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Speaker 5: Lincha Lynchy worked with Right, Yeah, Lindchi worked with d Stock.

486
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Speaker 5: He worked with Dick.

487
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Speaker 4: Stockstock legends, Okay, right, he may have worked with Ron

488
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 4: Pitts for a year or two. But yeah, John was

489
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Speaker 4: there before me. Okay, well when I got.

490
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Speaker 3: It, when they decided to move him up to number two.

491
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Speaker 4: They put us together, yeah, which was, as you know,

492
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Speaker 4: he's the greatest, the greatest guy ever. And then twenty

493
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Speaker 4: fourteen they was talking about me doing full time and

494
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Speaker 4: doing baseball and football and other stuff, and I still

495
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Speaker 4: did Mets, so I was kind of like by coastal.

496
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Speaker 4: And then after the twenty fourteen Mets season, I moved

497
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Speaker 4: out here and I've been a Collie guy and Lucky

498
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 4: he'd be full time at Fox, which has been amazing.

499
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Speaker 3: Do you ever get for people don't know he's the

500
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Speaker 3: host of the World Series. He's not.

501
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Speaker 2: He's our number one play by play guy Fox for

502
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Speaker 2: you know, Super Bowls and NFC Championship games and on

503
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Speaker 2: and on and on. Do you try and make it like, hey,

504
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Speaker 2: just another game, which I think is full of shit

505
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 2: for people to say. But do you try and make

506
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Speaker 2: it like that? Or do you approach it differently? Do

507
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: you get up for it differently? Give me the Kevin

508
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Speaker 2: Burkhart attack for those premiere things that you're doing.

509
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, Look, I agree with you. It's not

510
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Speaker 4: just another game. I mean, you know, and you know,

511
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 4: look when Joe and Troy went to ESPN and it

512
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 4: allowed you know, Greg and I to elevate.

513
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Speaker 5: To the one team. You know, I've done.

514
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 4: I had done, you know, a decade of football at Fox,

515
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 4: so the games weren't new to me. I've done the

516
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Speaker 4: World Series and hosted that for you know, and handed

517
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Speaker 4: away the trophy in the World Series, which is about

518
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 4: as nerve wracking as it gets.

519
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Speaker 5: So it's not just another game.

520
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Speaker 4: But I will say this glaze like I know, of course,

521
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Speaker 4: you know in your head, like last year we're doing

522
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Speaker 4: Cowboys Niners, Divisional monstrous, you know, you're doing Thanksgiving, which

523
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Speaker 4: like for me, like as a kid growing up, like

524
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Speaker 4: we loved watching Thanksgiving games and Pat and John. And

525
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Speaker 4: then when you do the Super Bowl I got to

526
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Speaker 4: tell you, like doing that for the first time. I

527
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Speaker 4: truly it was the week leading up that had me anxious.

528
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Speaker 4: It wasn't the game, like it's crazy as it sounds like,

529
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Speaker 4: I know, you know, one hundred and fifteen million people

530
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Speaker 4: watched it, But it was just getting to the game.

531
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Speaker 4: The anxiety of like staying healthy, not getting sick, making

532
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Speaker 4: sure you're taking care of all your prep, like doing X,

533
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Speaker 4: Y and Z, and all the other stuff that comes

534
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Speaker 4: along with Super Bowl week as you've done a million times.

535
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Speaker 4: It was all of that, and I felt like, of

536
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Speaker 4: course there's pressure, like you go into that, you know,

537
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Speaker 4: like if you handle it like you know, you feel

538
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 4: great about yourself, you're in a good spot. And if

539
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Speaker 4: you don't, it could kill your career. It's a lot

540
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Speaker 4: of pressure. So I will say though, Sunday, when I

541
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Speaker 4: woke up, like the day of the game, I felt

542
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Speaker 4: so good. My mind was clear, and it just felt like, Okay,

543
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Speaker 4: it's a normal I've done a million of these games.

544
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Speaker 4: There's just more people watching this one and that at

545
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Speaker 4: that point it did feel like another game to me,

546
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Speaker 4: So I would say everything else leading up to it.

547
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Speaker 5: If you say it's another game, I agree, it's porshit.

548
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Speaker 5: It's not right.

549
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Speaker 4: But if you approach it differently, like if your prep

550
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Speaker 4: is different, and if you think about it differently and

551
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Speaker 4: you psych yourself up in a different way, I think

552
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Speaker 4: you fail.

553
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Speaker 5: I can't.

554
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Speaker 4: I take the same approach and the same excite and

555
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 4: this I mean, I take the same approach and the

556
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Speaker 4: same excitement level for our preseason game as I do

557
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Speaker 4: as I did for the big playoff games, because I

558
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Speaker 4: don't know any other way.

559
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Speaker 5: I don't. I can't cheat on the test. I can't

560
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Speaker 5: skimp on prep. I'm just not wired that way. So

561
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Speaker 5: that's what helps me.

562
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Speaker 3: You know what my first and tell me how you

563
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Speaker 3: kind of process.

564
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Speaker 2: My first TV stand up ever did was the Patriots

565
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Speaker 2: Packers Super Bowl.

566
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Speaker 3: In ninety five in New Orleans and New York.

567
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Speaker 2: One TV told me we'll give you, well, you could

568
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: do three standups down there, and we'll give you one

569
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars a stand up. So it's the

570
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Speaker 2: first time I ever did like a report. But we

571
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Speaker 2: won't pay for you to go down there. You got

572
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: to get yourself down there. When I can pay for

573
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: you to stay anywhere, you have to stay. So man,

574
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Speaker 2: I just bummed rise and bummed couches and literally didn't

575
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Speaker 2: have money for food.

576
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Speaker 3: I ate in the press room and then waited for

577
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Speaker 3: the parties at night.

578
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Speaker 2: But so you're sitting there, I'm outside of Superdome, and

579
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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, there's two ways I could look at this.

580
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: I can either really be scared right now, don't just

581
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: shit my pants. Or I shifted my mindset. The whole

582
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Speaker 2: time I'm doing it.

583
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Speaker 3: All I'm thinking.

584
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Speaker 2: About is how great I'm gonna feel when I crush this. Yeah,

585
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: that's it, Like only thing on my mind. Man, You're

586
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: gonna feel amazing once you nail this, Once you get

587
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: this thing done, you're gonna feel amazing. Even the fact

588
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: that you've done it, you're gonna feel amazing. I just

589
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: went in with that mindset, so I wasn't nervous. What

590
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: are some of the tools you've used, you know, in

591
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Speaker 2: instances like that when the scenes are big.

592
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Speaker 5: Here's my mindset. It's this, if you can enjoy this,

593
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Speaker 5: then what are we even doing?

594
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Speaker 4: And that doesn't mean that you're not stressed, that you're

595
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: not nervous, that you don't get exhausted, Like that's normal stuff.

596
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Speaker 4: Like you know, just because we love what we do

597
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 4: and we have an amazing job, doesn't mean all of

598
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 4: that doesn't come into play, because it does. But I

599
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: mean reality, Like going back to the super Bowl stuff,

600
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Speaker 4: I said to myself, if I'm not gonna like of course,

601
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: nerves and the anxiety and all that, but I'm like,

602
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: if I'm not going to enjoy this, why have I

603
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 4: done this for the last thirty years of my life?

604
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 4: Like this is like everything you know you dream of

605
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: as a kid with it and like let the chips

606
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: fall or they may. Like I'm a firm I agree

607
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 4: with you. I'm a firm believer in that. Like here's

608
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 4: the deal, go out swinging, be yourself, and then where

609
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 4: things go, they go.

610
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Speaker 5: That's all. That's the only thing you can control.

611
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 4: I can't control if certain things happen, if people like it,

612
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 4: if they don't. But I feel good about myself if

613
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm going to enter it and be me and do

614
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: it my way. And I think that goes back to

615
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: the car stuff that I was telling you about, Like

616
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 4: that mindset changed that year of here's the deal. If

617
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Speaker 4: I'm going to go out or if I'm never going

618
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 4: to be a success in this business, or if whatever,

619
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Speaker 4: I'm going to do it my way and I'm going

620
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 4: to be me and if that doesn't work this, then

621
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 4: I'll do something else.

622
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 5: But I still feel the same way. Not that I don't.

623
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Speaker 4: Accept constructive criticism or coaching or any of that. I

624
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 4: love that, I want that, but I don't know how

625
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 4: you can succeed, especially on camera when you're on camera

626
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 4: all the time, if you don't have the faith and

627
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: belief in yourself, like this is going to be awesome,

628
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: it's going to be exhilarating and let's go and enjoy it.

629
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Speaker 5: I don't know how you can do it if you

630
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 5: don't have that.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the other thing I do, and I tell coaches,

632
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: first time coaches to do the same thing. Whenever we're

633
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: doing something big like super Bowl, would say, or N'SYE

634
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: championship game. I go find a little piece on the

635
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: field by myself and I literally stop and I look

636
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: up to God and I say, thank you, my best

637
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: friend God.

638
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: All money. I cannot believe I'm here. I don't want

639
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: this moment to be like, oh yeah, I've been there before.

640
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: No, Like, and I sit there and I just literally

641
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: just pray, and I'm like, man, I'm so I can't

642
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: believe that this little kid who struggled so much is

643
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: here right now in this moment, and I just live

644
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: in this gratitude. It's like a minute or two. I

645
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: always tell a head coaches do the same thing. You

646
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: have this huge journey, your.

647
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: First game, go over, take a little little piece of

648
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: field and just look up to God and go thank you.

649
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful. Live in this gratitude. And then every

650
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: game just go walk over that piece of field. So

651
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: remember just how grateful you should be that it's not like, hey,

652
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: this is owing to us or act you.

653
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 3: Know, no big deal.

654
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Speaker 4: No.

655
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Speaker 3: I always try and delve in gratitude moments.

656
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Speaker 2: And then while I'm doing it a lot of times,

657
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: I'll think about a the people who would be so

658
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Speaker 2: proud of me that they're watching me right now in

659
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Speaker 2: those big moments.

660
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: So you know, usually, like my.

661
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: Last segment on the Super Bowls was like right before

662
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: you know, onto my ins and outs sort of like

663
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: you know, right before the guys pick, and it's right

664
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: before we send to you guys, which is the height

665
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: of our show. And I'll sit there and a I'll

666
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: think about, Okay, all the fuckers who passed me by

667
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: and rejected me, and not in a bad way, just

668
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: like all you guys who are rejecting me.

669
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: We're cool. But also all the people who.

670
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Are probably really proud seeing me up there, knowing how

671
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: fucking hard I worked and how much rejection I went through.

672
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: Right, So you know, with that A leaning to you,

673
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: go ahead, take it from there.

674
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 4: No, it makes you stronger. And like, look, I think,

675
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: and that's part of right. I think, like it's all.

676
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: It's all you know, how hard you work and and

677
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 4: what you put into it, and hopefully everyone else sees that.

678
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 5: Like here's the thing.

679
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: People see how hard you work, People see how you

680
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 4: treat others, and people see your overall approach, my approach.

681
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 4: I choose to be sunny. I choose to be you know, kind.

682
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 4: And it doesn't mean that every day I'm perfect. Doesn't

683
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: mean that I won't, you know, get in a bad

684
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 4: mood and you know, bitch at something I do. I'm human,

685
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 4: but I like to think that on ninety five percent

686
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: of the days I take the opposite approach, and like,

687
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: I appreciate so much of what I'm able to do

688
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: and where I'm at, and not every day's picture perfect,

689
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 4: but hopefully you you know, you brighten your day and

690
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 4: bright in others days. I got a note the other

691
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: day from someone who, to be completely honest, I didn't

692
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: even know I affected them, but I helped them and

693
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 4: gave them some advice years ago and sent this nice

694
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: note out of nowhere, and I was so touched. And

695
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: I didn't think I did anything else but tried to

696
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: be nice and tried to be kind, but it really

697
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: made a difference.

698
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 5: So that stuff means more to me.

699
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: And as far as like enjoying the moment, like I

700
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 4: do this thing and it's cheesy, I know. And there's

701
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 4: every football game. Before every game there's a football in

702
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 4: the booth that we bring on the truck and I

703
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 4: throw it with my Spot or Mitch before the game,

704
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: like ten minutes before we go on the air. So

705
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: if the booth isn't big enough, we go out in

706
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: the hallway, like a couple weeks ago, we're throwing the

707
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: hall on. Dan Quinn comes behind me and you know,

708
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 4: want some hackle me, and he's getting ready for the

709
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 4: booth for the Cowboys. But it's like, the reason I

710
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 4: got into this is from throwing the football in the

711
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 4: street with my dad when I was a kid.

712
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 5: I love this, so it kind of takes me back to.

713
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 4: Like think about that, like your dreams as a kid,

714
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: And now I'm just doing this with my buddy who's

715
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 4: my spot and just kind of gets all the nervous

716
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: tension out before we actually go on the air, and

717
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is like my dream as a kid,

718
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 4: and now I'm doing it for really, how bad can

719
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: it be?

720
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 5: Just I just appreciate it so much.

721
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

722
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: Give me. I got two more things for you. You work

723
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: with so many different people in football and in baseball,

724
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: so many partners, and a lot of times guys were

725
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: just starting. What advice do you give partners like you

726
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: work with Derek Jeter this year it's his first year, right,

727
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: What advice do you give guys even though they are

728
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: superstars when they.

729
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: First come up.

730
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's everybody's a little different, right, I mean, but

731
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: you're right. I mean there's so many big personalities and

732
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: you know, you've been around those kind of guys your

733
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: whole life and you know, there's a lot of different

734
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: things of what they're feeling going on TV. And the

735
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: fascinating thing with Derek is that, you know he was

736
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: amazing for being in New York all those years and

737
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: winning all those world series, is that he had a

738
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: perfect way to be kind and give the media the

739
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 4: time but never say anything.

740
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: He's the most humble superstar I've ever been around in

741
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: my life.

742
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: We went to me and straight took him at dinner

743
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago at Solo Malibu and it's.

744
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 5: Just yeah, I couldn't believe.

745
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: And he came over the house, had a little rosie.

746
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: It's just like, doesn't act like a superstar at all.

747
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 5: He's the greatest. He's the greatest.

748
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: Like we had the best October and the most fun

749
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: getting to know him, and we we you know, it

750
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: starts with relationships like that's that's where it all starts,

751
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: and it really and writes somebody like, Hey, as we

752
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: get to know each other, just trust me that I'm

753
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: gonna be there for you and do my best to

754
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 4: make sure that you don't feel That's my number one goal,

755
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: right I'm trying to be the point guard here.

756
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 5: And you know, we hit it off.

757
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 4: We hung out of Miami, you know when after he

758
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: got hired, and we went and had a great time.

759
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: And I feel like I knew him forever. And so

760
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: that one was easy because he's easy. He's as laid

761
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: back as they come, and you know, you get to

762
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: know his style and maybe, you know, offer some suggestions.

763
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: The thing that I always find and you know, just

764
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: staying on the baseball set, whether it's him or a

765
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: Rod or Big Poppy. For these guys being and who

766
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: they are, iconic players, just world superstars.

767
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 5: They want to be coached. Yeah, and so like who

768
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 5: am I?

769
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: But like I'll when I say, hey, let's can we

770
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: try doing this or if I do this or you know,

771
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: and I try and help them and try to learn

772
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: what makes them better. They want it like they want

773
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 4: to be They want to be coached. I think that's

774
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: the cool thing about working with all these superstars is

775
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: every one of them wants to be great at it

776
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: and they want to be coached and help to get there.

777
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: I would tell guys football in UFC because I hosted

778
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: or our UFC coverage, which the first time these guys

779
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: really did you know desk work? Ever?

780
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: These fighters, right, but but what I.

781
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Told, like Strahm when he first came on, tell I

782
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: try and tell every player.

783
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: But Michael really resonated with I'm like, look.

784
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm the insider, so I know more than ninety

785
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine percent of

786
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: the world about football. But honestly, I'll never know more

787
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 2: than you. I don't know what it's like to being

788
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: a lot room with the quarterback controversy, or my head

789
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: coach getting fired, or to be in a losing streak

790
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: like that, or to be under a pile where someone's

791
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: grabbing me, or you know, having to look at seray,

792
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: I'll never know that. And like these fighters too, like, hey, man,

793
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm you know, you're sitting there in a championship fight

794
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: and you know you've got you know, it's a little

795
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: I've had experience in the fight world. But man, a

796
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: lot of times our guys will get these like research packets.

797
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: So I always say, don't ever tell me something I

798
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: could read in a research packet or something I could

799
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: read in USA today. Give me something that only you

800
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: know so straight, don't tell me it's oh, we got

801
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: the number one offense first and number two defense. Don't

802
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: tell me that, like, give me something from that game, like, hey,

803
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: you got your best offense, best defense. When we were

804
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: the Giants, we had this situation and this is how

805
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: we handle. We had a players only meeting, and this

806
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: is what a player's only meeting does to a locker

807
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: room something where you could tell us that I.

808
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: Can never tell, like, impress me on something. So that's

809
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: always been.

810
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: My advice to these to these players, and I also

811
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: to agree, put in the same work ethic.

812
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: Every one of you was a star because you outwork

813
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: the world.

814
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: Don't just come in here now and broadcast and say, oh,

815
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm Michael Stralian, so I'm good.

816
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: No, use your same work ethic. Like all our guys

817
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: on our show.

818
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: As crazy as you think, you know how he or

819
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: Terry and not how he but Terry and all these

820
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: guys are. They work their asses off. It puts so

821
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: much work and you can't imagine how much work, like

822
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: how he long puts in. Man, it's unbelievable, the field

823
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: that he watches and stuff like.

824
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: He doesn't stop. So use the same work ethic. The

825
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: guys used to be a Hall of fame.

826
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: I've seen it, and I totally get and I think

827
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: that's and we've seen.

828
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: It both ways. You see guys fail because they don't.

829
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: Do it right.

830
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: Well, there's there's been plenty of guys that' just you know,

831
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna come in and do this and I'm

832
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: who I am, and it'll work.

833
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: It doesn't work like that, And I'm with you though,

834
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 5: I think.

835
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: I also think sometimes with superstars, I always try to

836
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: remind them, like, hey, just realize anything that seems mundane.

837
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: And of course to.

838
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: You, I don't know, right, I never played in most

839
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: people ninety percent of people who don't know it either.

840
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: So for that to you, that's fascinating. Like when we're

841
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: doing the like for NFL, we're doing these games and

842
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: you know, the broadcast is driven by the analyst. You know,

843
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: the analyst's thoughts going into the week, what they think,

844
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: what they watch on film, and we build so many

845
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: ideas and thoughts based on that. Of course we all contribute,

846
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: but that's the idea. And like, so there's plenty of

847
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: times during the week I ask stupid questions to Olsen

848
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: because I'm like Greg, like that, you know I watched this,

849
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: Does this make sense?

850
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 5: Or is that right?

851
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: Or what do you think and then he goes on

852
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: that he loves it so much, and he goes on

853
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 4: this I'm like, and I'm like, that's fucking awesome.

854
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: We should the game.

855
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: So it's like their their brains are just so what

856
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: they've seen and what they know. I agree, they're so cool,

857
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: and like that's part of trying to extract it and

858
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: like let everybody at home here because it's fast. I

859
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: love the stuff offline as much as I do online

860
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: movie and.

861
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: They think it's they think it's like, you're right like

862
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: me as an inside, and the go, oh, that's a

863
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: big deal.

864
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a big deal.

865
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: Like when I broke the story about the Eagles changing

866
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: their defense coordinator without anybody knowing. First guy who told

867
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: me it just happened to talk about it in conversation

868
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: and I was like, what do you mean, Matt Patricia

869
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: the way he's calling it. He's like, yeah, yeah, Matt

870
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: Matty Peas. Now that dude's going to sound not to do anymore.

871
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: And I'm like, WHOA, well yeah, oh, He's like, yeah,

872
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: you don't know that.

873
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I don't think anybody knows that. Oh

874
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

875
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't pay attention who knows what, and it's like, oh, hold,

876
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: let's back up here for a second. Right, they don't

877
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: like you and I look at things a big deal.

878
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: A lot of times they don't realize it.

879
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 5: I know, we got to pull it out of them.

880
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 5: I know, but that's what I think.

881
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: That's kind of the fun of the job, right it's

882
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: And honestly, I love the I just love the personality.

883
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: Like I like to go back to gui you're talking

884
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 4: about Jeter. I feel like I feel like people got

885
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: to know him a little bit this postseason. And you

886
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 4: know that's cool because even my most diehard Yankee fan

887
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 4: friends who you know, had Derek Jeter posters on their

888
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: wall when they is they didn't really know him, and

889
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: like by watching the show, it's the same thing with

890
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: you guys on Sunday, Like they know you, right, they

891
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: feel like they're friends with you.

892
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: That's the cool thing about we do.

893
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: No doubt my last question you I asked all my

894
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: guest this, Yeah, give me your own breakable moment.

895
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: There's a Mental Wealth podcast. We're trying to build people up.

896
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: The way I've been built up is going through really

897
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: really really hard things or a lot of adversity. Adversity

898
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: is a gift, give me the one thing that could

899
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: have broken you or should have in your career, your life, anything,

900
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: but didn't, and as a result, you came through stronger

901
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life.

902
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's I think I could go with

903
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 4: a couple of different answers here, but I will say

904
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 4: I still think it is the car selling situation for me.

905
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 5: And there's a couple of reasons, because.

906
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: You just question everything about your existence, you know, you

907
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: get to the point you're like, you know, like I

908
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: woke up one day, I'm like, what the fuck am I?

909
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: Like?

910
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 5: What am I doing?

911
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: Am I wasting my time? What is the where am

912
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: I going? What am I going to be?

913
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: Like?

914
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 4: All of that you question your existence. So this is

915
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: not like, you know, you know, I'm not a young

916
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 4: kid at this point. I'm late in my twenties. I'm

917
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: twenty nine years old or whatever, and just like, you know,

918
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 4: completely have no idea what I'm doing, what I've done

919
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: the last ten years of my life, what the next

920
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: five minutes of my life are going to look like.

921
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 4: And that's a scary place when you're there and when

922
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: you really don't know and I think you're also like,

923
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: you know, you have these dreams, and you want to

924
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: experience any dream you have, whatever it is, traveling, work,

925
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 4: social life, whatever. I think when you start trying to

926
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: like say, I'm not a big like, Okay, where do

927
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: you want to be in five years, because like if

928
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: you don't, if you're not doing exactly what you think

929
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: of five years, then you feel like you're a failure.

930
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 5: And I'm just not into that idea.

931
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 4: Like I think it's one thing to have like hopes

932
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: and dreams and goals, but to put a timetable on it.

933
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: Everybody's journey is different.

934
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: And so that year I just really question everything and

935
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 4: I just was I just really didn't know what I

936
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 4: was doing or who I was going to be. And

937
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: I think there was a point midway through it where

938
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: I just said, you know what, screw it, I'm just

939
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: going to be who I am and if it works out,

940
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: it works out, and if it doesn't, I'll be happy

941
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 4: finding whatever way that is. And when I did that,

942
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: that's when everything started to happen. Because I took all

943
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 4: the pressure of my shoulders, I took all the expectation

944
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: off my shoulders. I just went out and did what

945
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 4: I wanted to do and what made me happy and

946
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: what I thought I could do. And it's funny when

947
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 4: you take all that pressure and dusted away, that's when

948
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: things become a little simpler and they're not as stressful

949
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 4: and you don't get as anxious over over these little

950
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: things that were driving you wild and making you not

951
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 4: sleep at night. And so I really do think obviously

952
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: that was a turning point in my career, but it's

953
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 4: not even that. It's just a turning point for how

954
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: I was dealing with life and how I was dealing

955
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: with my own set of expectation, because it just allowed

956
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: me to rethink that I still had the expectation plays

957
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: and I still, you know, had my dreams, but I

958
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: just thought about approaching them in a different way. And

959
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: I think, I know I wouldn't be here today.

960
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: You know.

961
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: I really get excited talking about it too, because I

962
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: want people to use that as a motivation. I've had

963
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 4: people tell me that the cool thing about doing the

964
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 4: Super Bowl last year is because I'm not a name,

965
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 4: and I wasn't a name, and I came from a

966
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: small college and you know, a small family and the

967
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: East Coast and I came from nowhere basically, and I

968
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: loved doing the press because I had a lot of

969
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: especially like college students or people that have been even

970
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 4: in the business or in another business for a long time.

971
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, that was so refreshing to hear

972
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: that you just hung with it and did your own

973
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 4: thing and you know, persevered. But I think even if

974
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: it doesn't work out, I think it's just having that

975
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: state and you being in that mental state is the

976
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: only way to go. And so it took me till

977
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: I was almost thirty to get there.

978
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: Wow, man, that is beautiful. Brother.

979
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: I am proud to call you a teammate. I'm proud

980
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: to call you Fox family.

981
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: But I am definitely proud to call your brother.

982
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 5: Love you brother.

983
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: You know that I appreciate you so much. Kevin Burkhart

984
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: my tree. Catch them this weekend on Fox.

985
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: Love you, brother,