1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Eddy. 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: And the music of that middle school band sums up 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: the attitude as you heading it into a brand new week. 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: You wish you had prepared more task it and aren't 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: you doing your best to hit the note that is, 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: whatever you're trying to accomplish. That almost got there live 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: from studio. See you dim leave and you're deep within 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: hey y'all today getting novel close to Christmas r under the. 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Tutelage of our general manager. 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Your crappy, frustrating health insurance. You're crappy, confusing, dissatisfying overlea 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: expreend of health insurance. 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: And why is that my general manager? 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: Well, the Republicans in Congress are struggling with the end 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: of the temporary Apparently we've forgotten what that word means 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: extra subsidies for Obama Care and are reckoning with the 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: fact that the Democrats are demagoguing issue and saying. 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Everybody's health insurance is going to go up. 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: Well again, if it was a temporary subsidy, yes, that 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: is the inevitable result. But they don't know what to 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: do about it. They don't have a plan of their own. 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: They don't have a reform that they can all agree on. 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: It's a mess. Look forward to that conversation over the 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks or into January. That'll be a 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: good thing to come back to on January. 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: Huh? 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: And that so fun are the rest of our miserable 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: lives before they sorted out? Got my tree up on Saturday, 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: Me and the boys we went and got our tree 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: at the boy Scout lot because my son is a 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: boy Scout, so we went to a different place this 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: year and we got our tree there and he's working 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: at the Boy Scout lot. A couple of shifts and 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: got it up, decorated, had some snacks while we did it, 37 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: watch had Home Alone on the television while we decorated. 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Very face nice. I hadn't seen the original Home Alone 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: in quite some time. McCauley Culkin's talent among them, but 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: his biggest talent is his ability to scream and be funny. 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: He does it like nine times in that movie where 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: he opens his mouth really widened, screams, Yeah, that's his 43 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: real talent. It's it's hilarious when he does it. Charming 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: holiday movie about a child alone being terrorized by two 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: career criminals. When the van, Oh, when Joe Peshey almost 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: hits him with the van and he turns around in 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: the van's right in his face, and he opens up 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: his mouth and screams. I watched that like ten times 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: in a row. Just see why this is so funny. 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: The timing is just so good. It made me laugh 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: every single time. They're great mccaullay Culkin, McCauley, We tip 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: our caps to you. I didn't mention to my kids 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: that he was ended up being friends with Michael Jackson 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: because that might have sullied the whole. 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: You don't want to start thinking about that. That's not Chris, 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: I guess not. Who is the other guy, Joe Pesci's cohort. 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: He's another fine comedic actor, just not as well known 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: as the great. 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: That's funny. 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: I was trying to think of his name the whole movie, 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: and I never checked. Gpt'd it. Katie is going to 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: right now. There's a lot of stars in that first 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: home alone movie. And John Candy of course is so 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: freaking funny, always vocal, big and Sheboygan huh no. Anyway, 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: got the tree up and it's so festive in the house. 67 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: Really really enjoy you? Who is it? Katie, Daniel Stern, 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: Daniel Stoe. 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Of course, Daniel, we apologize, but so where we are 70 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: out spending money? Apparently lots of other people were the 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: the economic news in terms of the spending continues. 72 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: To look good despite our attitudes. 73 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: There was an article in the Wall Street Journal yesterday 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: getting to this conversation the cranky shopper or the cranky consumer. 75 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: It was called how our attitude is My life sucks. 76 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm going broke, I can't make my payments, but I'm 77 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: gonna spend the same amount I always. 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: Do for some reason that seems to be our attitude. Hm. 79 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: And we'll see how that works out when the bills 80 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: come in January. Well, yeah, I guess you. 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: Once you get to a certain level of spending on 82 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: gifts for what's probably a mostly static list of human beings, 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: I could see people feeling like, you know, if they 84 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: decline from that number, they're they're cheaping out and they 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: don't want to do that, but that's that's a dangerous, 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, pattern to lock yourself into. Katie is with child, 87 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: much like Mary was. This time of year, are you buying? 88 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: Do you have gifts under the tree for the baby? 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: No? 90 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: No, okay, no, I do not. He's not here yet, gotcha. 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: Well that's right, I understand. 92 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Check his schedule, check the calendar. Can't make it right 93 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: just Christmas. We do have a story later about people 94 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: that are into dolls for babies, women that kind of 95 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: take on these dolls and treat them like babies. Yeah, 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: for a like over the long term. Yeah, So we 97 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: have about that later and continues down that road of 98 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: people pushing pets around and strollers and having doll babies. 99 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: Fantastic. 100 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: If you, if you, if you push your stroller up 101 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: to me and show me your dollar doll baby. I 102 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: don't think I can stop from saying something sarcastic. 103 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: They're gonna put AI in those dollar babies soon, right. 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the an otld goo goo ga gay. 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: With the help of h chat GPT God, I saw 106 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: some who put out a video over the weekend try 107 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: to convince you to kill yourself. One of your news 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: publications over the weekend had the latest girlfriend chat bot thingy. 109 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was disturbing how realistic it looked. 110 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Now, yeah, you should start planning now for. 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: A son, a friend, an uncle, whoever. Oh yeah, they 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: have a pook that you're gonna find out they've got 113 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: an AI chat girlfriend chatbot Hi friend and silicone girlfriend. 114 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: Of how you're going to speaking of you know, I'm 115 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna say something sarcastic. 116 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: Are you just gonna say it's nice to meet you, Linda, 117 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: She's lovely? 118 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: Jim, you get to did you spring for the extended warranty? 119 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: See? 120 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: I would say something like that, and then if there 121 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: it would be a rift? 122 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: Or do you just start right off with what are 123 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: you doing? You freaking whack a doodle? Yeah, but that's coming. 124 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: You are going to know someone who's got a whatever 125 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna call it this one. I saw from which 126 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: news organization it might have been the BBC unbelievable and 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: the way it talks and then gets to know you 128 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: and remembers your conversations, the way chat GPT and everything does. Sure, sure, yeah, 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: how'd that game go last night? 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: Honey? 131 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could come home and talk to you 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: in this particular one was ridiculous. It was like looked 133 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: like it was like twenty one years old and it's 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: wearing it cheerleader outfit or whatever, sitting on the couch, 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: because that's why your wife's supposed to dress. 136 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: And then where do you order those? 137 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: You come home and you're twenty one year old cheerleader 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: girlfriend wife person says, So what was Jim like at 139 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: work today? 140 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: Was he the same old, same old? 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, because they understand what's going on in your 142 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: life and you can have really connecting conversations like. 143 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: Right, that's not at all disturbing. All right, here's the question. 144 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: What what euphemism will the industry and enthusiasts come up 145 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: for the artificial wife girlfriend? So the people you don't 146 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: normalize slash sell them, yeah exactly, yeah yeah. And the 147 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: users who don't want to just openly admit I'm I'm 148 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: an odd. 149 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: Duck, I'm a pathetic loser. Yeah. Well I wasn't gonna 150 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: go there, but I. 151 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Did, ah sin synth lover. 152 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 2: They won't use the term artificial. 153 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, but it will be 154 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: something like that will be euphemized in a way you're right, 155 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: that's coming soon, no doubt. 156 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, some sort of term. 157 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: We should start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's 158 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Joe Getty on this Monday. So we got today this 159 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: week and then till next Thursday, right till Christmas. 160 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: Because I haven't started shopping yet. That's why I'm saying this. 161 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: It's Monday, December eighth of the year twenty twenty five, 162 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: wore Armstrong and getting we approve of this program Next 163 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Thursday's the eighteenth, So we got this week next. 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: Week and then yes, okay, cool, I'm in great shape. 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: Then what about all worried about? What are you druid 166 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: the eighteenth? Honey? I get plenty of time. Did you 167 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: got seventeen days? I'm no prank you, Michael. Why am 168 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: I even worried about it? 169 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Besides, my synth bride will remind me that I'll volt 170 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: the shopping on you. 171 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: That would be kind of handy. 172 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Hey, synth wife, I can't remember who do I still 173 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: have to shop for? You still have to shop for 174 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: your cousin Bill and your daughter Jenny, And she's got 175 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: the list in her head and can contact Amazon and 176 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: deal with all that sort of stuff. 177 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: There'd be advantages. Remember Jenny wanted a new hutch her rabbit. 178 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, yeah, wow, I'm starting to warm to 179 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: the idea cheerleader outfit. 180 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: You say, all right, let's begin the show officially now. 181 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: According to FCC rules and regulations, here we go at Mark. 182 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: This holiday season. 183 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: While some shoppers splurrege, others are digging for deals, experts 184 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: say they're seeing consumers going in two different directions what 185 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: they're calling a K shaped economy. 186 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I've heard that a bunch of times. K shaped. 187 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: Why what's the K? I don't quite get way. It's 188 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: K shaped? 189 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: You got your spine of the K. That's your straight 190 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: up line. Forget about that, it's the other two lines. 191 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Oh ok, It's like a less than sign right in math. Right, 192 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: look at I'm making like an alligator mouth with my 193 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: hands for the rest of the crew. 194 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: And that means what it's going in two different directions. 195 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: The bottom sixty percent of consumers are spending less and 196 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: less and hunting for big bargains. The more affluent folks 197 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: are spending like lunatics, what some are calling a K 198 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: shaped economy. If I hear that one more time, I'm 199 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: going to vomit. Okay, fantastic. Somebody came up with a 200 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: new something or other to call the economy whoop de do. 201 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: We gotta wait till everything pans out to see how 202 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: this is. 203 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: If people are. 204 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Spending beyond their means, as is being suggested by some 205 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: news publications, there's gonna be a reckoning, come bill paying time. 206 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: I think these cable news peoples they all say the 207 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: same thing. 208 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: It's like they have a script. 209 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: That's a good point. Computer wife here, pretty clever and observant. 210 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: That's because I can take in all media simultaneously through 211 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: my electrodes. Don't mention your electrodes. It weirds me. Oh boy, 212 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: it gets in the way of the magic. Yeah. 213 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh So we got Katie's headlines on the way, 214 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: and we'll catch up on some of the news of 215 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: the day. Is the video gonna come out this week? 216 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: The double tap video? That's what a lot of people 217 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: are waiting for. There's still two very different views of 218 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: how that video looked. I'm kind of anxious myself to 219 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: see who's been misleading me about whether or not these 220 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: were combatants trying to reconfigure their ability to bring drugs 221 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: in the country or they were too badly injured, people 222 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: clinging to a couple of pieces of balsa wood floating 223 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: in the ocean, signaling for help. Very different views of 224 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: the same key shaped analysis. Jack, Yeah, I would say 225 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: so anyway, lots on the way, stay here. 226 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: President Zelenski's gun with. 227 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: Cars starmer today in Great Britain among other people to 228 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: try to decide whether or not he wants to accept 229 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: this peace deal that's being pushed his way. 230 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: We'll keep our eye on that story, see if any 231 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: news comes out of it. 232 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: He is hurting for certain New York Times big article 233 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: over the weekend about corruption in Ukraine and haw Zelinsky's government. 234 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: It turned a blind eye and allowed it. God, that's 235 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: got to be tough. Assuming he's not corrupt himself, that's 236 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: got to be tough. You see some of your friends 237 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: like you're really you're stealing during a war. 238 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 239 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's it's as old as war. Anyway, more 240 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: on that to come. Let's figure out who's reporting what 241 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: it's lead story with Katie Green and. 242 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: Katie all righty, let's start with the big story. The 243 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: boat strikes. Three headlines on this one, NBC admiral told 244 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: lawmakers everyone on alleged drug boat was on a list 245 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: of military targets from PBS. US boat strike backlash continues 246 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: as Lawmaker's Way. In an NPR heg Seth says Defense 247 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 3: Department is reviewing. 248 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Boat strike video for possible release. 249 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: So I watched some of the Sunday shows yesterday completely 250 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: different views or takeaways from people who have seen that video. 251 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: So when the video comes out, I think one side. 252 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: Or the other is going to have some serious explaining 253 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: to do as to why you interpreted it the way 254 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: you did. I mean, they're so far apart, it's hard 255 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: to imagine that it's one of those ror shock tests 256 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: where you can see it different ways. 257 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine that that's the case. 258 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Right, I wonder, I wonder if it'll be that clear 259 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: Katie indicating there that they're considering releasing it. 260 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: Right, Trump said get everything out, but maybe the War 261 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: Department decides not to. Why would they hold it back? 262 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: They put out plenty of videos of yeah, boat's getting exploded. 263 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: I think that would be suspicious. 264 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: Is there a speculation that releasing the videos would show 265 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 3: some of our tactics and they're worried about putting that 266 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: on display? 267 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: Dropping a bomb on people's head. Is that I don't know. 268 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. That was on one of the weekend shows. 269 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: Hmmm from ABC. 270 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 3: Zelenski calls for quote, collective pressure on Russia amid fresh strikes. 271 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Guy's watching News Nation Today and they're analyst on there said, 272 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: Trump's not Trump or geez, what a terrible mistake. Putin 273 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: is not going to stop with Ukraine or where he is. 274 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: He wont if they agree to this chunk of land 275 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: that he says belongs to him, even though he has 276 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: won on the battlefield. He's going to go to Kiev 277 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: next chance he gets, and then he's got other countries 278 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: in mind. 279 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: That was their analysis on News Nation Today. 280 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Well, he's absolutely going to insist on a Lackey government 281 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: for Ukraine like the one that was in place before, 282 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: one that is unquestionably Russia leaning and not West leaning. 283 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: From the New York Post, mystery deepens as to why 284 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: it took the FBI nearly five years to finally bust 285 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: the suspected j six pipe bomber. 286 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: His parents says, near autistic the kid. I don't know 287 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: what that means. I'm not shocked by that. 288 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: From the Wall Street Journal, China's trade surplus tops one 289 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: trillion dollars, underscoring its export dominance. 290 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 291 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: It was considered a big deal last year when they 292 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: announced in January that they'd hit a trillion dollars. This time, 293 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: they're a trillion point eight just through November. 294 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. 295 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: From People magazine. Woman attacked by geese at local park 296 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: suffers broken pelvis and internal bleeding. 297 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: Broken pelvis. How big were these geese? 298 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: Well? I don't know, but she apparently was on the 299 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: ground and they like they wouldn't let her get up. 300 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, she probably injured herself in the fall. 301 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't think geese can break your pelvis, but yeah, yeah, 302 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: I've been amongst aggressive geese and they're they're terrifying birds. 303 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: And they're pretty large too, So if she was frail 304 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: or old or whatever. 305 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 306 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: This one from study fines Americans have a new holiday 307 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: gift wish please pay my bills? 308 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: Mm oof. They did a poll. Cash was at the top. 309 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Wow, that'd be an interesting thing to offer, particularly young people. 310 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: How about I make a pay your electric bill first month? 311 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Can people see that as a nice gift or kind 312 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: of condescending? 313 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: Trust me? They need it? Yeah. 314 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Finally, the Babylon Bee husband issues travel ban 315 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: on any trucks from Amazon. 316 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: Travel ban. 317 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: I found this funny because my dad says, it's not 318 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: a normal day if an Amazon truck doesn't show up 319 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: at the house. 320 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: Or five in the my cul de sac. 321 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and sometimes driving way too fast. 322 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the delio? 323 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: I know you got a lot of deliveries to make. Okay, 324 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: we'll get some more news coming up. If you missed 325 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty. 326 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: A growing number of studies show that watching short form 327 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: videos can lead to mental cognition problems. 328 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: So if you're watching this on tiktoko. 329 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, how you doing? There is something wrong with Saturday 330 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Night Live. I've been want since it first came on 331 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: the air in the mid seventies, and there's something broken there. 332 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: The bits aren't working most of the time. And you know, 333 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: I just like through years where people. 334 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: Said Saturday and Alive sucks. I hung with it. I 335 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: don't know if they changed all their writers or what, 336 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: but something is just off. It's Saturday Night Live. It's weird. 337 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: This year we mentioned this. 338 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: President Zelensky is going to be in ten Downing Street 339 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: in London, that's where their government is based. Meeting with McCrone, 340 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: Starmer of Great Britain and Fred Mertz from Germany about 341 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: this whole peace plan thing. And Donald Trump yesterday is 342 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: very unhappy that Zelensky has not yet agreed to the 343 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: peace plan. Trump criticized President Zelensky, claiming the Ukrainian leader 344 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: had not read the latest version of the peace proposals. 345 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: He hasn't even read it yet, and that Putin is 346 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: on board. 347 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Putin's on board because it gives him everything 348 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: he wants. 349 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: That's one of the reason Zelinsky's not on board for 350 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: all of Donald Jay's good qualities, he is so obsessed 351 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: with getting the win. Like some of the other peace 352 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: deals he's broken have fallen apart, because. 353 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: You know, they were good. 354 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: They stopped the fighting for a while, but just for 355 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: a little while, and he claimed the win that he 356 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: brought peace, and now they're back to killing the hell 357 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: out of each other. And this is the problem with 358 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: this deal is in the long term, it has no 359 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: significant guarantees for the safety of Ukraine. Well, it would 360 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: start with Russia having control over all of the eastern 361 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: Ukrainian region known as the Donbass which they have not 362 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: gained on the ground in going on four years of war. 363 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: So give that to him. And then if they ever 364 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: unleash an attack again, which they would, man, they'd be 365 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: in Key by the afternoon, especially if there are no 366 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: guarantees like you just mentioned. 367 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know. I don't see how 368 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: Ukraine could possibly do agree to that deal. Yeah, I know, 369 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: it's awful. 370 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: It's awful, and I think they are heading toward a 371 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: terrible result honestly, whether it is through the auspices of 372 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: Trump and some sort of peace plan or on the 373 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: battlefield going. Well, and let me throw this in before 374 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: we go on, just for our you know, it's not 375 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: our business. We don't need to be involved in that 376 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: land dispute, crowd. I think it makes it more likely 377 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: we end up in a nuclear war, not less if 378 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: Ukraine is forced to agree to this peace plan, because 379 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: then Putin is going to take Kiev, and then he's 380 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: on the border of a bunch of NATO nations, which 381 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: lots of people think he's going to try to take again, 382 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: and then we're facing you know, Article five of our 383 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: NATO agreement blah blah blah. I think ending the war 384 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: in Ukraine on Russia's terms makes it more likely we 385 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: get pulled into a European war. 386 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: Not less. Yeah, well, that's one of the great points 387 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: of disagreement. 388 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: I actually found a not a devil's advocate, they didn't 389 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: see it that way, but an argument that we, the 390 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: United States and the West, and particularly the Obama administration, 391 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: caused the chain of events that ended with the Russian 392 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: invasion of Ukraine by deposing the twenty fourteen government of what. 393 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: The hell was his name? 394 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: That's funny, It just flit it out of my head. 395 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: They had a very Russian leaning government that was seen 396 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: by the West as corrupt lackeys and slaves of Putin Well, 397 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: and it was utterly corrupt, right, and then there was 398 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: an uprising, a coup, if you will, revolution, in which 399 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: a much more Western facing regime was put in place. 400 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: And there are those that blame the West for promoting 401 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: that and threatening Russia's security and safety. Unleashing that chain 402 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: of events is a pretty interesting analysis. There's a lot 403 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: of the eye of the beholder, though. What Livchenko is 404 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: that his name Livchenko? Was he a lackey in a 405 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: stooge and corrupt and all or was he a sensible 406 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: man trying to balance the needs of uh oh Yanikovich. 407 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: That's right, I'm thinking of the wrong guy. But he 408 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: was lazily charactered, caricatured as a Russian puppet. But in 409 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: reality he was doing what any Ukrainian leader should be doing, 410 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: balancing Ukraine's existence as a buffer state between Western Europe 411 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: and Russia. But even if all that's true, even if 412 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent true, what difference does that make? 413 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: Now? Go ahead, write history books blaming or whoever. 414 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: Well, it matters because it suggests that Putin, having re 415 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: established an eastern leaning Ukraine and getting rid of the 416 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: neo khan obsessed with the West types, will we'll have 417 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: his security again and we'll be fine. This was all 418 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: about a threat to Russian security, which will definitely don't 419 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 1: believe that. Yeah, So, anyway, sung the other losses that 420 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: Ukraine has sustained lately, this is a big one. They've 421 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: lost the New York Times, Zelenski's government sabotaged oversight, allowing 422 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: corruption to fester. And they talk about how when Russia 423 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: invaded Ukraine and the Western Allies were willing to pony 424 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: up billions and billions of dollars. They knew that a 425 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: great challenge would be to fund the military without watching 426 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: the money vanish into the pockets of corrupt managers and 427 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: government officials. To protect their money, the US and European 428 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: nations insisted on oversight. They required Ukraine to allow groups 429 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: of outside experts known as supervisory boards to monitor everything 430 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: and protect prevent corruption. Over the past four years, the 431 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: New York's Times investigation found the Ukrainian government systematically sabotaged 432 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: that oversight, allowing graft to flourish. President Vladimir Zelensky's administration 433 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: has stacked boards with loyalists, left seats empty, or stalled 434 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: them from being set up at all. Well, Zelensky's right 435 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: hand man, I mean, his closest advisor, and he was 436 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: basically the second deaf and lead negotiator throughout most of this. 437 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: He resigned. Now he claims that he's not corrupt and 438 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: people are out to get him and they're all lying 439 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: about it. But he resigned, and Zelenski no longer has 440 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: him on his side. He's the guy right next to 441 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: him in that video from the very beginning of the war. 442 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: Remember they're in the dark alley. Basically putting out a 443 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: video saying We're still here, we ain't going nowhere. He's 444 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: the guy right next to Zelensky in prison. Zelensky has 445 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: lost that dude in his efforts now Emotionally, that's got 446 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: to be just brutal, no matter what's happening in terms 447 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: of the corruption. 448 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 449 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Well, and the question is and always has been, is 450 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: the corruption at a level, as I've made the point 451 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: many times, in a former Soviet republic, you're gonna have 452 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: a lot of corruption, you just are. That was the 453 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: only way to get things done for a very long time, 454 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: and it's culturally accepted. Is it at a level that 455 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: you're unhappy about, you're trying to limit but you can tolerate. 456 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: Or has it just gotten to a point where you 457 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: just can't justify the expenditure anymore. I don't know the 458 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: fact that The New York Times went big with this story. 459 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: It was like top of the fold of the website 460 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: for a while anyway, and is long and complete and scathing. 461 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: It's not a good sign. No, But you're still in 462 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: the same situation. 463 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: So even if Ukraine is incredibly corrupt, it's not good 464 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: for the United States and Europe. If Putin takes Ukraine 465 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: with his eyes on other countries, so I don't know 466 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: what we do. 467 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: At that point. Yeah. 468 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it reminds me in some ways of the South 469 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Vietnamese regime during the Vietnam War period, where they were 470 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: utterly corrupt and lacking popular support in a lot of 471 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: ways too, And there's just they couldn't stand without gigantic 472 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: Western support. And I'm worth pointing out for people on 473 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: the other side of my argument, the dominoes did not begin. 474 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: To fall after that. That's where it's right, right. 475 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: Communism did not spread all across countries as we abandoned that. 476 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: Now it's just spread to the college campuses. Anyway, I 477 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: thought this was interesting, speaking of the old gray lady. 478 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Have you followed it all? 479 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: The Trump administration national security strategy that they put out. 480 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: It's a fairly readable, not very long document. I can't 481 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: remember how many pages it is, forty eight or something 482 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: like that. But one of the things that it says 483 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: came out Friday that Europe was facing the stark prospect 484 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: of civilizational erasure and pledged that the US would support 485 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: like minded patriotic parties across the continent to prevent a 486 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: future in which quote certain NATO members will become majority 487 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: non European. The starkest and highest level statement ever that hey, 488 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: letting in rampant immigration from Africa the Middle East is 489 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: fundamentally changing who you are and you soon will be 490 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: unrecognizable and unworthy as ally. 491 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: A lot of which is true now. 492 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: Donald Tusk, the guy who runs Poland, put out a 493 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: statement over the weekend basically saying, note to Trump, we're 494 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: your number one ally in Europe. 495 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: We're not a problem. 496 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: But it could be both, right, it could be an 497 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: ally and a problem. 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So I guess the question is this, 530 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: do you think. 531 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: That if Putin's given everything he wanted in this piece deal, 532 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: he stops where he is. He lost so many men, 533 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: it cost him so much money. 534 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: He's done. Or do you think he waits six months 535 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: to a year, reinvades Ukraine, takes Kiev. 536 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: It kind of depends how Ukrainian politics go. If they 537 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: become a vassal state of Russia, he's probably good good 538 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: with that. I mean, he'll have effective control as they 539 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: continue to be West leaning and armed by the Europeans. 540 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: And the Americans. Yeah, he takes Kiev in a couple of. 541 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: Years, So then would your wish be that he gets 542 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: to install some sort of friendly government and calls it 543 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: good and we never think about it again. I don't know, 544 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: I really don't. You have to have an answer, I do. 545 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: It is a very tough nut to crack. It's a 546 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: very difficult situation. How about he's got his state, he 547 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: doesn't need to go any farther into Kiev because he's 548 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: basically in Kiev. Does he go to a stony Air 549 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: or whatever those other little countries around there that nobody 550 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: has ever heard of? 551 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: I certainly hope not. Yeah, I hope not either. Yeah. 552 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: I'm one of. 553 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: The intelligence services that if you really want a conclusion. 554 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: I'll give you one, but it's with that low level 555 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: of certainty. 556 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: It's a guess. 557 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: Or does Trump think maybe it happens, but I won't 558 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: be president when it happens. Or does that fat old 559 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: commy bastard finally have a heart attack? Putin then next? 560 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: What's next? He's getting a little roundish. Yeah, it's all 561 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: that Kev's all that caviar and borsch. Like I always say, 562 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: when I standing at the hotel in Moscow, I think 563 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: I get up in the morning. The breakfast buffet at 564 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: this hotel had like twenty different kinds of cavia, of. 565 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: Which I ate none. Do people like it that much 566 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: in Russia? Been spend a lot of time in Russia? 567 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: Have you? 568 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Lee? 569 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: Harvey Armstrong? Demand an investigation. We got email on the 570 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: way more news of the day. 571 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: I hope you can stick around. The color of the 572 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: year has been announced, and people on the internet are angry. 573 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: I have no idea what either one of those sentences mean. 574 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: Also, I'm thinking about putting Christmas bells on my scale, 575 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: so when I step on and that thing smacks up 576 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: to the top because I'm heavier than the day before, 577 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: and it goes jingle, jingle, jingle, Maybe put me in 578 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: a better mood. 579 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, I like it. Boy. That couple of sentences 580 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: you unleashed on us. 581 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: I picture a man of say the forties or fifties, 582 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: a woman of the sixties hearing that sentence. They might think, 583 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what that second thing is, but I'm 584 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna punch you just to be safe. 585 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: You seem like you need to be punched. Here's your freedom. 586 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Loving quote of the day from the Great Dwight D. Eisenhower, 587 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: sent along by Brian. People that values its privileges above 588 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: its principles soon loses both. 589 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: Too late, Ike, Too late mailbag. 590 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: This is from unofficial show historian Mike in San Francisco 591 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: on the anniversary of the day that we'll live in 592 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: infamy yesterday, the attack on Pearl Harbor. Really moving note 593 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: about his dad and his dad's service in the Navy, 594 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: and he mentions that his dad was actually stationed in Alameda, 595 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: California on the day of the attack on Pearl Harbor 596 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: and more of more than half of his boot camp 597 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: class died on battleships more to. 598 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: At Pearl Harbor that day. Wow. 599 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, very very very few Pearl Harbor survivors left. 600 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: Obviously, they're all over one hundred years old. Let's see. 601 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: Moving along. Jay in La. 602 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: On the UK experimenting on children these days, Michael let 603 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: music sounds louder than north Is that. 604 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: Just my headphones? I feel like I'm having to shout 605 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: over it. I just been playing the normal way. 606 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I hear cocaine is back in? Is 607 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: the band the show band here in the studio? Are 608 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: they coked up? Play an extra loud or drunk? 609 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: All right? Moving along? 610 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: So the UK is now reinstituted under the Labor Party, 611 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: some of the cruel experiments on children who are momentarily 612 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: confused about their gender, and Jay sends this along with 613 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: the UK unbelievably contemplating hormone experiments on hundreds of children. 614 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: I wish someone would point out to them that East 615 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: Germany ran these experiments for decades and the outcomes are 616 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: known and from I believe it's Wikipedia. While doping brought 617 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: East Germany impressive results in sporting events, it was often 618 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: devastating to the health of the athletes involved. Sure, gender 619 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: bending hormones. Yeah, it's terrible, terrible for you. Let's see, 620 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: I Henry writes, I'm watching Sunday news shows waiting for 621 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: the left to protest Trump dumping tons of a cocaine 622 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: into the ocean in those drug boat at teens. Yeah, 623 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: you got a bunch of coked up whales swimming around 624 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: the ocean. I think the ocean is big enough to 625 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: take a little cocaine dissolving in it. Alloh, I don't 626 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: know if I'm you know, some sort of sea creature 627 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: and all of this sudden I'm a washing in the coca? 628 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: Oof? How about Greg from Detroit? Uh, Guys, consider this. 629 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: Young women aren't interested in having sex with men nor 630 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: marrying men, and are flocking to social justice causes like 631 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: feeding the hungry, housing the board, advocating for Palestinian statehood, 632 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: and stopping climate change. Perhaps we should simply view them 633 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: and refer to them as postmodern nuns. Obviously, they aren't 634 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: Christian nuns, but they've clearly have the same sort of calling, 635 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: with all the trappings of sisterhood, a rejection of high 636 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: paying careers and a wardrobe of highwaisted jeans and doc martins. 637 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: Are the modern liberal arts universities really any different from 638 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: a traditional convent in terms of indoctrination. 639 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 640 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: I read something the other day about how, you know, 641 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: millions and millions of young women not having kids. You 642 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: got to turn that biological need to nurture and take 643 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: care of towards something, and if it gets pointed toward 644 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: climate change or trends or whatever, you have a lot 645 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: of energy for it, because you're designed to have a 646 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: lot of energy for some sort of nurturing protection thing. 647 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: Right. 648 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: Have some more news on the Omnikaus coming up. It's 649 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: pretty amusing. I love this, Anya says, listen to your 650 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: discussion of cheap Chinese crap. It reminded me of something 651 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: my mother always told me growing up. Quote, we are 652 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: too poor to buy cheap things. 653 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: Ah, that's pretty good. 654 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: Actually, we grew up in Ukraine, so Soviet poor. I 655 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: didn't really get what she meant until later. You only 656 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: have so many resources and mind, something cheap and of 657 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: horrible quality will cripple you. Better off saving your money 658 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: for something that will last. That is your Ukrainian listener 659 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: for over ten years. 660 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's a good one. 661 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: We're too poor to go out and buy cheap, crappy 662 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: tools that are going to be worthless. 663 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: Let's wait until we can afford good ones, for instance. 664 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then finally alien Anonymous with a story about 665 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: a great family that gave their twelve year old son 666 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: a smartphone. Soon addicted to pornography, running with a bad crowd, 667 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: they ended up being sent away to a teen rehab camp. 668 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: And then she makes the point I find it ironic 669 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: that parents can be so hyper vigilant about their children, 670 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: not letting them be free range. They hover over their 671 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: every move until they get these devices. Then they basically 672 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: become absentee parents at the worst possible moment, let the 673 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: Internet raise their child. That factors in a little bit 674 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: to that second story on sixty minutes last night about 675 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: that poor girl who killed herself talking to chatbots. 676 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 2: Oh, talk about that later, right right. 677 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: The trend in hovering helicopter snowplow parenting coinciding with just 678 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: turning your kids loose with the smartphone's crazy. Yeah, it 679 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: really is. I thought that as I was watching sixty 680 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: minutes last night. We'll talk about that later and a 681 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: whole bunch of other stuff. I hope you can stick 682 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: around 683 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty