Speaker 1: It actually started out at ninety seven with Little Darrel,
Speaker 1: And when I did it on B ANDT, I came
Speaker 1: out saying, zoo man, Bruce Bruce Comedians like man. He said,
Speaker 1: when this air man your life and the change, they said,
Speaker 1: that was funny. All my life, the grinding all my
Speaker 1: life sacrifice Hustle pack Price one a slice, got the
Speaker 1: Bronan dice to swad all my life. I've been grinding
Speaker 1: in all my life. USh all my life. Then grinding
Speaker 1: all my life sacrifice, Hustel Paggick Price one slice got
Speaker 1: the brol dice to swath all my life. I've been
Speaker 1: grinding in all my life. Hello, welcome to another additional club,
Speaker 1: Sha Shay. I am your whole Shannon Sharp. I'm also
Speaker 1: the proprietor Club Sha Shay. And the guy that's stopping
Speaker 1: by for conversation on the drink today he flew all
Speaker 1: the way to La just this morning, stand up comedian,
Speaker 1: TV host, actor, writer, author, philanthropist, executive producer, taught, rated
Speaker 1: national syndicated radio personality, entertainment business moment. Dam you got
Speaker 1: a lot of titles. How many ledges over thirty years
Speaker 1: in the industry, HBCU alone come on in the Alabama
Speaker 1: States findings bone phone, phone phone phone, bone bone phone, bom,
Speaker 1: phone phone boom. You know, yeah, you already know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's okay, Ricky's Boley. What's up? We were talking earlier.
Speaker 1: It's nice to finally be phase to phase yea with
Speaker 1: somebody your age eighty six, class of eighty seven. How
Speaker 1: you doing? I'm doing good man? Give me Ricky Smiley
Speaker 1: wakes up at what time and starts his day and
Speaker 1: doubs what three thirty? No alarm clock ever? Three thirty? Uh,
Speaker 1: full of breakfast, coffee, watch the news, and just drive
Speaker 1: to work. Jump on the tow away in Dallas, Texas, right,
Speaker 1: drive up to the studio, do the morning show. The
Speaker 1: morning show lasts for like three and a half hours.
Speaker 1: I'm like a long time to talk, bro. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: you know you got a commercial break. Yeah, but I'm say, okay,
Speaker 1: commercial breaks every hour for every hour, that's about thirty
Speaker 1: two minutes. Yeah, that's we arguing in between. I got
Speaker 1: a sports guy, rock Teeth. Yeah it's on my morning show.
Speaker 1: So were always arguing about something. Okay, it's a rock Teeth,
Speaker 1: Super Dave and then the brand and there you got
Speaker 1: Gary in there. Right. So we us talking about news
Speaker 1: relationships or sports, right, and just telling stories or whatever.
Speaker 1: So it goes by like that. It's nothing. Your comedian
Speaker 1: been in the business a very long time. What made
Speaker 1: you decide to say I'm gonna start doing radio at
Speaker 1: the height of your comedic genius? Man, Steve, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Steve Harvey. Steve Harvey is like a big brother, okay,
Speaker 1: and he's like, Rick, you need to nah na na.
Speaker 1: I just about a house. I'm doing comedy shows, my show,
Speaker 1: So he said, hey, how are you gonna pay for it?
Speaker 1: He said, So he called me. He said, hey, there's
Speaker 1: a radio opportunity in Dallas. Okay. I was like nah.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I'm good and so boomerang. His
Speaker 1: bodyguard called me. He cursed me out. He said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: if you don't take you, if you don't be in
Speaker 1: Dallas by this evening, we ain't blanking with you morning.
Speaker 1: And he hung up in my face. Steve called me back.
Speaker 1: I'm like, can I come tomorrow? You're like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can come tomorrow. So I went and I got the job.
Speaker 1: They put me on one hip hop station and after
Speaker 1: that it we won, right, We syndicated right, So and
Speaker 1: then we went from the hip hop and they moved
Speaker 1: us over from time joining and retired, so we own
Speaker 1: in like almost one hundred markets now. So this was
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four. Yes, Steve Harvey picks up
Speaker 1: the phone, and we're gonna talk about Steve later because
Speaker 1: I've had, uh said the entertainer. I've had Earthquake. I've
Speaker 1: had so many comedians and everybody swears that Steve and
Speaker 1: not a story with all of them. Okay, earthquake and
Speaker 1: I was roommate, Okay, I mean like sleeping on Earthquake
Speaker 1: couch to go and do shows. And I never went
Speaker 1: to a strip club before I went with Earthquake, Okay,
Speaker 1: but I would. I would go into VIP and take
Speaker 1: a nap because I wasn't used to being up there
Speaker 1: late because I was the church organist. Okay, so earthquake
Speaker 1: got me out at the strip club or whatever. But
Speaker 1: I would go into the VIP and get on the
Speaker 1: couch and go to sleep. Man, God must with on
Speaker 1: vacation when you coming up in the third all that
Speaker 1: that that's a true story. And I used to open
Speaker 1: for saying that, said r Ron. That was my first manager,
Speaker 1: first person to take me on the road. So radio pay,
Speaker 1: I mean could because you still be you still do
Speaker 1: stand up. Yeah. So I'm trying to damn how you
Speaker 1: have time? You do? You do radio for three and
Speaker 1: a half hours a day. You do? I mean we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about all the other stuff. You mean your grandfather,
Speaker 1: you're a philanthropist. How do you find the time, Ricky Shunning?
Speaker 1: You make time? You have to create space, Okay, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't take all the engagement. Okay, sometime I just
Speaker 1: want to stay at home and push my grandkids on
Speaker 1: the swing, yes, okay or whatever, and uh I just
Speaker 1: make a little a lot of time for myself. But
Speaker 1: for the past six years, I don't perform in the summer, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I only perform. I remember you're telling me that
Speaker 1: you sums off. Yeah, take summers off. So made, that's
Speaker 1: the time you're on the boat. You what you gotta
Speaker 1: go with me? You was gonna go with me. Gotta
Speaker 1: gotta create some space, Okay, you gotta go with me. Okay.
Speaker 1: Uh So that that's a lot of fun. So now
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm living okay, because you just you know,
Speaker 1: on a Saturday, it's July you look on Facebook, everybody
Speaker 1: in Jamaica, everybody class reunion, everybody on the beach, and
Speaker 1: you're sitting in an Atlanta airport whining to go to Tulsa, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: only to go to an empty hotel room that night,
Speaker 1: to get up the early the next morning to fly
Speaker 1: to another city. And you have to make some time
Speaker 1: to like, Okay, you know what I'm saying. It can't
Speaker 1: just chase money all the time. You gotta make some
Speaker 1: stuff happen. What do you enjoy more? Radio? Stand up?
Speaker 1: Stand up? Nothing? Nothing, beach stand up? Walking on stage.
Speaker 1: I'm about to do a Netflix specially okay away, but
Speaker 1: it's nothing like walking on stage and it's thirty five hundred.
Speaker 1: I just did the Martin tour. We was performing in
Speaker 1: NBA Arenas. Wow, uh, twenty twelve to twenty thousand people
Speaker 1: in the audience. Man, there was nothing like that walking
Speaker 1: on stage, just getting that heat for a good twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes. But radio is a lot of fun because
Speaker 1: radio muscle everything. Helped everything. Stand up help radio. That's up.
Speaker 1: That was my next question. Yeah, how did radio prepare
Speaker 1: you for? How did stand up prepare you for? Radio?
Speaker 1: And vice versa. A quick with yes. So whatever we're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, you got a joke for it,
Speaker 1: or you can move the conversation into a comedic you know,
Speaker 1: a comedic conversation and get some jokes off r and
Speaker 1: then boom you go into commercial break. But on stage, well,
Speaker 1: you're doing that on radio. It's exercising that comedy muscle.
Speaker 1: So when you hit the stage, you also got quick
Speaker 1: with right, but there's no commercial break. Correct, Better come
Speaker 1: on with the next joke. Right. So let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question. So, when you're doing stand up, do
Speaker 1: you write your material or you just remember you right
Speaker 1: A said, or do you just like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do tonight. Either the jokes I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do and they just flow. I used to write U Sanning,
Speaker 1: but now that I'm older, I can just walk on
Speaker 1: stage and just off the top of my head rip
Speaker 1: off a good thirty minutes a non stop people crying, laughing,
Speaker 1: because I've been doing it so long, thirty three years
Speaker 1: a long. Right. Cant Let me ask you this. When
Speaker 1: you walk into an areno, you walk into where you're
Speaker 1: doing the show, do you look at the audience and said, Okay,
Speaker 1: these are the jokes I need tonight. Oh yeah, these
Speaker 1: are the jokes I need tonight, shouting believe it or not.
Speaker 1: I gotta playbook, okay. And I do everything sports based. Okay.
Speaker 1: I sit up and watching Nick saving speech before I
Speaker 1: go out and tell jokes. I apply every I started
Speaker 1: out with football, right, I played little league football. Even
Speaker 1: though you denied that I did or whatever you didn't.
Speaker 1: I think the records denied it because we couldn't find anything.
Speaker 1: I think that's what That's what game, that what gave me, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's all my homeboys and Burman. I can't why I
Speaker 1: came from Tony Nathan High. He played, he played with
Speaker 1: the dog. Yeah what long high school? That's the high
Speaker 1: school I graduate. And Bobby Bowden came up. I got
Speaker 1: a homeboy and named Google. I asked him. He said, nah,
Speaker 1: he don't do that. I'm get saying. Shot came all
Speaker 1: the way out here? You did? Did you? Watching folks
Speaker 1: over here in the background lamp the power ever last
Speaker 1: one of them. But I do everything sports base, okay.
Speaker 1: So I get motivated and get excited and go on
Speaker 1: stage and and and kill it. You mentioned your but
Speaker 1: I knew I have a playbook to answer your question. Yes,
Speaker 1: it depends on the audience. You can look at the
Speaker 1: audience and then wet comedian go on in front of you. Right,
Speaker 1: So I have like six different acts. Okay, So my man,
Speaker 1: my road manage. He'll tear a page out, said, let's
Speaker 1: do this one tonight, okay, and he'll go and kind
Speaker 1: of tape like lay it on the floor right in
Speaker 1: front of the stage, right, and I and I have
Speaker 1: like footnotes, and I once I do the first two,
Speaker 1: I already know where you you you you're in a rhythm, then, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in a rhythm. You mentioned you were in syndicating
Speaker 1: over eighty eighty stations. Yeah, you want to syndicated personality twice.
Speaker 1: And when you win that, there's a lot of responsibility
Speaker 1: because now the expectations not only for yourself but from
Speaker 1: everybody that's listening to you. How have you been able
Speaker 1: to manage those expectations? Uh? You just don't change anything,
Speaker 1: shann And you just make sure that you're funny and
Speaker 1: that you're relatable, right that you Uh, you know, most
Speaker 1: of our markets are in the South, so you have
Speaker 1: to open up with a praise break, have a passion
Speaker 1: to come on and give a good word. They want
Speaker 1: to have a good word. Yes, you know you got
Speaker 1: uh you know you're doing your Bernie's jinking, your trunch announcements.
Speaker 1: You got u the will This comedian Will Ka comes on.
Speaker 1: You got the comedian Benji Brown that comes on once
Speaker 1: a week and do it same. And then you got
Speaker 1: Jeff Jason that comes on and do three things you
Speaker 1: need to know. Then the president of the National Urban League. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you got a variety of news, politics, uh, funny,
Speaker 1: spiritual stuff and you know, uh, so to open and
Speaker 1: close the show, so the show is well diverse. Have
Speaker 1: you have you had a minister come on and then
Speaker 1: after you like, I don't know if the spirit heard
Speaker 1: that one. Nah nah, but like like like I know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. But Pastor Freddie Haynes and down
Speaker 1: to Sexas, Oh, he's he's the regular. He's a regular. Okay,
Speaker 1: the presiding bishop before a Gospel Bishop Joseph Walker Nashville,
Speaker 1: he comes on. Okay, brain at heat Right, So any
Speaker 1: pastor that I that I get on, Pastor Slater, other pastors. Okay,
Speaker 1: these pastors are really really good. But some preachers can preach, yes,
Speaker 1: but they're not so good on radio correct right, But
Speaker 1: I found pastors that that have that can really articulate
Speaker 1: a sixty second message in radio right and get people
Speaker 1: up and motivated. Then follow it with a song or whatever,
Speaker 1: and uh, just start the show every morning. Is anyone
Speaker 1: from Mount Zion Missionary Baptist number one Tabernacle on the
Speaker 1: Hill Church, the Old Lord, the Old Lord. Hold my
Speaker 1: mute while I shout Missionary Evangelists, Baptist Church of Guard
Speaker 1: in Christ. You have a great crew. You mentioned the
Speaker 1: Brat gay with the trial k rock Te. What makes
Speaker 1: your relationship so special? Been there for so many years.
Speaker 1: It's the chemistry, right, I know where Brat Bratton know
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. Before I said, I know what she's thinking.
Speaker 1: Rock T is kind of like the laugher. He does
Speaker 1: sports or whatever, but he's instigator laugher. Yes, I got
Speaker 1: comedian special hey on. Then you know you got Gary.
Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan of Gary. You got
Speaker 1: Gary with the team. Gary's about seventy four years old. Uh,
Speaker 1: everybody's business and everybody's business. I'm just joking. Gas gave you.
Speaker 1: I mean, you do a good job game. You ain't nobody.
Speaker 1: I mean the business is out there. So we just you,
Speaker 1: just you just giving us the business that that's always
Speaker 1: out there. J'all, Lyon is on. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: fun or whatever. But that just the chemistry, man, and
Speaker 1: how funny everybody is and how how fun it is.
Speaker 1: And you grew really you grew really fast. You're in
Speaker 1: over ten million, ten million listeners daily. What were your
Speaker 1: expectations when you got into radio? Did you did you
Speaker 1: expect or did you think you would be this big
Speaker 1: this quick? Nah? Because we were only on in Dallas, Okay,
Speaker 1: So I was happy with that. I'm right, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys fan. The Cowboys see that. You got
Speaker 1: my whole life shouting up Calabama? How are you getting
Speaker 1: way to Dallas from Alabama? You're gonna drop after focus.
Speaker 1: You gonna how many teams you jump over to get you?
Speaker 1: The Cowboys in the seventies, yeah, you might hate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all had Dallas Cowboys jock first stealers. Okay, he
Speaker 1: was either one or the other. You were right, you
Speaker 1: are in the seventies, you was either for the cowboys
Speaker 1: or the pits. But all the time, so my granddad said,
Speaker 1: were rolling them with the cowboys, That's how I grew up.
Speaker 1: I got out hill I had. I had a little
Speaker 1: baby Jerry curror and a pit and a Dallas cowboy
Speaker 1: jogging suit holding the football like then I'll short, I'll
Speaker 1: send it to you. You know, I was thinking that Rick,
Speaker 1: everybody that had a Jerry Carrol ain't got new here.
Speaker 1: You think them chemics would burns y'all here out It
Speaker 1: did because the Jerry Cruss went from Jerry CRUs to
Speaker 1: Wade new Vote and then Hawaiians Hawaiian silky. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then after that your hair started thinning like right there,
Speaker 1: and you just had to let let it go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I see that's the say no, you ain't Rick.
Speaker 1: The thing was you let it go. You ain't trying
Speaker 1: to to the side. You ain't trying to hold on
Speaker 1: to see some people on TV. You need to let
Speaker 1: it go. We talked about it, but we're gonna call
Speaker 1: no name. Let me ask you a question. The breakfast
Speaker 1: club you kind and you kind of do kind of
Speaker 1: what the breakfast club does, uh not not exactly. Uh
Speaker 1: what do you know about those guys there? Any competition, Well,
Speaker 1: we were at that competition when we were on the
Speaker 1: hip hop station Okay, So it was either the Rickett
Speaker 1: Smiling Morning Show or the Breakfast Club. Well, we were
Speaker 1: known for it was the Funny right or whatever, and
Speaker 1: we were number one in every market, right. Uh. They
Speaker 1: were known for the interviews with Angela ye Alla main
Speaker 1: DJ Envy, who I absolutely who I met for the
Speaker 1: first time. I met him at the White House. This
Speaker 1: past exem was really really nice about him and his wife.
Speaker 1: So I'm a big fan of watch all of the interviews,
Speaker 1: love their working. Uh, you know everything that But that
Speaker 1: was our competition, right, believe it or not. Our competition
Speaker 1: now it is Steve okay and Steve and one got
Speaker 1: us a job, and now we compete directly against the
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey Morning Show, right, And we always texting each
Speaker 1: other sometime we get on the same phage and in
Speaker 1: the morning like, hey, what are you talking about? Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this or whatever. Because when we're
Speaker 1: trying to push something in agenda d L. Steve and
Speaker 1: I we stay on group text, right because we are
Speaker 1: deal and our deal Hugually we worked for the same
Speaker 1: company Steve worked, but the other kinds. But we communicate, right,
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, like pastor Warnock and different people
Speaker 1: were trying to help them. We always on the same
Speaker 1: page and we all accused. Yeah, you mentioned that Tom Joinner,
Speaker 1: you took over Tom Joinner. Steve Harvey's been in the
Speaker 1: radio years. Tabs Smiley was on the radio still is
Speaker 1: I think you're still on the radio. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: used to have a what was that? Was that? Pps?
Speaker 1: A bt that Tavis Smiley used to have that talk
Speaker 1: show hEDS and Wendy Williams. Yeah, what is your style? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Speaker 1: Is Ricky Smiley's style based off of more kind of
Speaker 1: like Steve or whatever. But I'm just a little different.
Speaker 1: I'm a little sillier. My morning show probably is the
Speaker 1: funniest man right show out of all of them, right,
Speaker 1: because it's just the you got Bratt laughing, you got
Speaker 1: rock t Right instigating and laughing. I'm the instigator, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not even the funny. The funny one on the
Speaker 1: morning show is comedian special k right or whatever. So
Speaker 1: then you got the voice of reason, you got Maria
Speaker 1: right More on the show. So I show get going.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's more comedy than anything out of
Speaker 1: all the warning shows that I listened to. We more funny,
Speaker 1: and I don't like to do the controversial stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't like to bring people on and ask the real
Speaker 1: controversial right right, because it just kills the energy. Can
Speaker 1: work for some people, right but but but for me,
Speaker 1: I'm not sixty minutes and those and forty hours those
Speaker 1: those type of interviews you right there, right right right.
Speaker 1: I just try to keep it light because I want
Speaker 1: the guests to feel confidence, right and open up and
Speaker 1: open up and have a good conversation. I want them
Speaker 1: to come back, yes, you know what I'm saying. Instead
Speaker 1: of asking them about something controversial, let's ask them what's
Speaker 1: your favorite candy? Right? So what do you do before
Speaker 1: you go on stage? I want to get into what
Speaker 1: the listeners don't know about the artists. So that's what
Speaker 1: you know where my success come from. You you mentioned
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey and how Steve Harvey pushed you in the
Speaker 1: direction he was one of your mentors. What is some
Speaker 1: of the advice that Steve told you about when getting
Speaker 1: into the business or being a comedian and getting into
Speaker 1: the radio business. Oh yeah, dressed nice, discipline, discretion, Uh,
Speaker 1: be on time, you know, Shannon. Uh. When I opened
Speaker 1: up to Steve Harvey, I had on. Uh, I was
Speaker 1: going with the l L cool jah. You know, I
Speaker 1: had to had the clock that hell hell couls, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh so he pulled me to the back back
Speaker 1: of the dress and he said, hey, he said, people
Speaker 1: paid their money to come see us tonight. Yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: so this is a Friday. Say you need to wear
Speaker 1: a suit tomorrow. I said, yes, sir, that was my
Speaker 1: first time Steve left Steed. They ain't paying me like
Speaker 1: they paying you. They put this to kind of money
Speaker 1: they paying me. See I'm dress right, but let's see
Speaker 1: I was working at Jeans West. Oh. But you know
Speaker 1: about that? What you know about that? Okay? That three
Speaker 1: much at night, sir, So I had I had a
Speaker 1: little suit. So okay, he said, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: introduce me tonight, but tomorrow I would like for you
Speaker 1: to wear a suit. These days, you say that to somebody,
Speaker 1: they feelings hurt, right. So I took it like a man.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it hurt my feelings, but in a
Speaker 1: in a good way, right, because he didn't have to
Speaker 1: say anything at all. But that was but see you
Speaker 1: when I came up in a row with somebody older
Speaker 1: saying something period. It wasn't no debate, it wasn't no all,
Speaker 1: but shut it. It ain't no why So you know
Speaker 1: what I did, Ladies and gentlemen giving up to Steve
Speaker 1: Hardy bought Steve on stage. Then I piled out of
Speaker 1: that parking lot while he was on stage performing, made
Speaker 1: it to my apartment in time, ran back to my room,
Speaker 1: put on a suit, went back to the comedy club.
Speaker 1: By the time I ran in the door, he was saying,
Speaker 1: thank y'all, good night. My name is Steve Harman. I
Speaker 1: went up. But when I came back on save with
Speaker 1: that suit on, he looked at me. He said, you're serious.
Speaker 1: Damn right, I'm serious. Right, I want it right because
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not waiting until tomorrow. You have right now,
Speaker 1: you have one of the ogs. This is what you
Speaker 1: need to do in order to be successful. Dressed for success.
Speaker 1: Looked like success, right, feel like success. You will. He's
Speaker 1: bigger too, that Steve. I listened to a lot of
Speaker 1: its motivational stuff. Yeah, he says, you have to manifest it.
Speaker 1: He says, but you have to feel and you have
Speaker 1: to think a certain way. And I tell a story
Speaker 1: a lot of sending because that was life changing. Yes,
Speaker 1: that led to me opening up for the Kings of comedy, Yes,
Speaker 1: but led to me being around Steve, which led to
Speaker 1: me having a syndicated radio show, which changed my whole life. So,
Speaker 1: you know, just the discipline and the destructure that I
Speaker 1: got from my grandfather and my grandmother. Do what you're
Speaker 1: told to do, nothing to ask why, just do it right? Period,
Speaker 1: And it worked out once once you started doing the comedy. Obviously,
Speaker 1: there there are a lot of comedians. I don't know
Speaker 1: who was your favorite. I mean for me growing up
Speaker 1: and listening to prior and listen to Eddie Murphy, who
Speaker 1: was some of the comedians that you wanted to meet.
Speaker 1: You're like, man if I meet him, oh man, I
Speaker 1: was excited when I met John Witherspoon. Man. I met
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy for the first time at his house. I
Speaker 1: got invited over because I didn't know that Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 1: You know, I was hosting Comic View, I was on
Speaker 1: BT every night, Eddie Murphy. I didn't know that Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy watching b Et cumming you right, And so I
Speaker 1: was out here and he got worried that I was
Speaker 1: staying at the sofa tail and he had a little
Speaker 1: get together at the house. I ended up going over that.
Speaker 1: I met Eddie Murphy and that was just a real blessing.
Speaker 1: And he repeating my jokes and my prank phone calls
Speaker 1: like I watched Raw and Delirious, like you know how
Speaker 1: they were in high school. Yes, coming to America was
Speaker 1: twelfth grade. Coming to America came out like what and
Speaker 1: he repeating my prank phone calls and that was just
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. Now, I was shocked coming to American him
Speaker 1: at eighty eight, right, eighty something. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: might I might have been. I might have been a
Speaker 1: junior college right, you're a sophomore in college here right
Speaker 1: right right? We're college, yeah, Alabama State. But yeah, coming
Speaker 1: to America, Yeah, I just to see him in that
Speaker 1: and to be able to like go to his house, right,
Speaker 1: and uh, I really tripped out when uh, when Stevie
Speaker 1: Wonder was repeating one of my prank phone called that
Speaker 1: really blew my mind. Wow, because my mama had all
Speaker 1: the albums I have him now, right, but all the albums,
Speaker 1: So I did not know that people was listening to
Speaker 1: those prank phone calls and watching d et cors you
Speaker 1: like that or whatever. So when you said you started
Speaker 1: off you were performing in front of mainly white audiences.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do. You have to tell jokes different yeah,
Speaker 1: so way so so my my audience was white, right,
Speaker 1: So I thought that's the way comedy go. Right, So
Speaker 1: I would never take the mic out of saying like
Speaker 1: I was like, oh gee, you know I could do
Speaker 1: those jokes man. Yeah, hey, by telling the joke and
Speaker 1: they're laughing, you holding onto the mic. So I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to the first black show I did. I
Speaker 1: was opening up for uh, for ice Cube and the
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys and in the Nice or whatever. So here
Speaker 1: I come with a comedy club routine. I came on
Speaker 1: stage with a suit on. I said, I need a mic,
Speaker 1: staying like you dog you open up? Ice cut me
Speaker 1: in the lynch mob. I excuse the lynch mob, all
Speaker 1: the dog rappers, and it stuck. Man. They booed me
Speaker 1: so hard. Come on, man, they boomed me. It was ugly.
Speaker 1: And I walked back stage. Ice Cube now they would
Speaker 1: make eye contact with me. No, no, little man going
Speaker 1: over there, don't bring the energy over here. I got
Speaker 1: booed really bad. I got booed up the apolo too, shouldn't, huh.
Speaker 1: I got booed on Short Time at the Apolo and
Speaker 1: I hadn't even told a joke when they said Birmingham, Alabam.
Speaker 1: Mark Curry was the host. When they say from Birmingham, Alabama,
Speaker 1: they were like boot, they boot. So when I was
Speaker 1: coming on stage, Mark Curry, who was the host at
Speaker 1: the time, he said, do your jokes. Played to the camera.
Speaker 1: He said, your ish gonna air. He said, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. I did. I did five minutes of comedy
Speaker 1: while they was booing and throwing stuff and played to
Speaker 1: the cameras trying to think of my joke. So I
Speaker 1: didn't tell nobody. I was on Short Time the Apolo, right,
Speaker 1: so it comes on TV at then your apolo, you
Speaker 1: know on Sunday we watched your apolom But bro go
Speaker 1: to the scale ring, right, come on, sho't be with me,
Speaker 1: all right, coach, we ain't go there. Way, I ain't
Speaker 1: go there. I couldn't. I can't skate rink. Everybody with
Speaker 1: a skate rink on Sunday. We'll argue about that later, okay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: so I didn't tell anybody. So they took an audience
Speaker 1: that was laughing at another comedian and spice it up
Speaker 1: right laughing. All of a sudden, it was no self
Speaker 1: on some My phone was ringing, my phone was blowing up.
Speaker 1: I'll started getting bookings or whatever. When I actually got boomed, Wow,
Speaker 1: true story, show time with the Apollo. But that's what
Speaker 1: is that feeling? Like, I mean, you don't argue. You
Speaker 1: have to get boo. I mean, so, so how did
Speaker 1: how do you remain confident? Like I'm sticky with I
Speaker 1: don't care what y'all say. Y'all they laugh at these
Speaker 1: jokes to but y'all gonna laugh tomorrow. Yea. Back then,
Speaker 1: back then, Uh, you would just kind of go on,
Speaker 1: try to do your routine. Now if you boo me,
Speaker 1: I would turn all the lights on and step off
Speaker 1: stage and go through the audience and roast every last one.
Speaker 1: I give it to him like I don't care because
Speaker 1: something wrong with everybody? Right, I don't care how good
Speaker 1: you look. I can find something wrong with you. I'll
Speaker 1: make you anxious, right, Okay, you want to boot me?
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to get my son. My
Speaker 1: son came home from college. I was sitting in the
Speaker 1: kitchen every time I passed by, getting ready to go
Speaker 1: to Uh you know the frat me right. You know
Speaker 1: I heard somebody giggling or whatever. I'm wearing something like this.
Speaker 1: I'm just age appropriate, right, exactly. Nothing to win those
Speaker 1: tights with a hoodie. I ain't wearing no chrome hard
Speaker 1: gene that called eight thousand days. Come on, man, I'm
Speaker 1: about to be double nickel. And then you know, you
Speaker 1: know by me being a damn my son, I guess
Speaker 1: got what I do for a living. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: want a roast, I went in and cleared that kitchen.
Speaker 1: It was spinning kool aid everywhere, like, yeah, you got
Speaker 1: you get on yourself like that. What you're trying to
Speaker 1: roast me in front of your friends from college? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know my son on the basketball right in the
Speaker 1: Alabama state right now, okay or whatever, shout out the
Speaker 1: miligu smiling, but you know it's trying to roast, right,
Speaker 1: So I got junker. I do this for a living.
Speaker 1: I'm not just your dad, ni yeah right right now,
Speaker 1: I'm a comedian. I'll be dead at the minute's go.
Speaker 1: Was like, get your friends laughing that you of them? Yeah,
Speaker 1: open for the ghettos? How how do you how's there's
Speaker 1: a comedian. I don't know. I've never been to a
Speaker 1: concert where a comedian opened up for people that's gonna
Speaker 1: sing or rap. Well, at that time, Shannon, they started
Speaker 1: doing they was having comedians open up all the shows. Okay,
Speaker 1: because now mind, I had a great show when I
Speaker 1: opened up for Will Downing, King Cohn and Jennifer Holiday. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and uh mister Cooper, Michael Cooper. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: opened up for Michael Cooper. Okay. You know, Joe Cribbs
Speaker 1: put me on my first big show, okay, running back
Speaker 1: Ruffalo Bills, Yes, sir, he became a promoter. Okay, put
Speaker 1: me on my first big show. Okay, little running back
Speaker 1: from Auburn. Man. I love him to this day and
Speaker 1: thank thankful for the opportunity. But Joe Cribbs saw talent
Speaker 1: in me and had me open up for Michael Cooper,
Speaker 1: which meant a lot. So so they was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we can have you open up for the ice Cube
Speaker 1: and the Lynch Bob and the Ghetto Boy. You thought
Speaker 1: that would be a good idea. Who's shark was on
Speaker 1: that show? Oh? Man? I got the pictures, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got boomed. I had a suit, I had a three
Speaker 1: piece suit. I was dressed like the Jackson Southern theres.
Speaker 1: We don't need to talk about this the Will Smith incident,
Speaker 1: but we saw something out here at the Hollywood Bowl
Speaker 1: with Dave Chappelle and somebody ran on stage. Are you
Speaker 1: afraid now you say that if people start bowling, you're
Speaker 1: gonna cut the lights on and you're gonna clear it out. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you do you get afraid now of telling a
Speaker 1: joke that might offend someone or you like, I'm ricking,
Speaker 1: this is what I do. I don't you came here
Speaker 1: so you don't get it. If you don't, if you're
Speaker 1: not appropriate, Shannon, I don't care. If you sensitive, don't
Speaker 1: come to my show, stay at home. Right, society is
Speaker 1: too sensitive. Now. You can't say nothing. You can't correct.
Speaker 1: You can't if somebody doing something that affects you. You
Speaker 1: can't even correct them when they're what they're doing affect you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, hey, I'm fitted for it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what I need to say, especially if
Speaker 1: it directly affects me. Right, I'm offended. I'm offended that
Speaker 1: you're affecting I'm offended that I have to correct you right,
Speaker 1: how about that? But they get offended that you offended? Right? Right?
Speaker 1: All of this so, uh, culture and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. I'm gonna do my jokes or whatever I
Speaker 1: talk about everybody, I talk about myself, right or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're black, white, fat, skinny or whatever.
Speaker 1: Everybody gonna get a little bit right. And most of
Speaker 1: my comedy is relatable and and it's it's done with love.
Speaker 1: It's not mean spirited. That's a difference that comedy is
Speaker 1: not mean spirit So you know when you got Comic
Speaker 1: View and Death Comedy Jam, how did that change your life? Well,
Speaker 1: hosting Coming View changed my life. Your money definitely changed
Speaker 1: for your appearance, Uh Deaf Comedy Jam. Martin Lawrence was
Speaker 1: the host, So I started. I did a joke about
Speaker 1: the queues in the Aka, so I started getting book
Speaker 1: for colleges. Right. So, but when I became the host
Speaker 1: of b ET Coming View, that means you're on TV
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, number one show. That was a highest
Speaker 1: rated season of Comic View on b ET and uh
Speaker 1: and I was also the host in two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: Right then Bat gave me a show the year after that,
Speaker 1: So That was a real staple in my career and
Speaker 1: even now. And that was two thousand. My tickets it's
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty three now. My ticket sales has
Speaker 1: been consistent for twenty three years. It actually started out
Speaker 1: in ninety seven with Little Darren. Right, if I did
Speaker 1: a Little Darrel, I've been selling out since ninety seven.
Speaker 1: So you can you still do that joke even though
Speaker 1: you're talking about maybe a special needs I mean, do
Speaker 1: you have to do you have to? Oh? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do it. They like it, the special needs. Right, Little
Speaker 1: Darren bought out all the special needs uh kids right,
Speaker 1: not necessarily kids, but specially an adults. Yeah, they all
Speaker 1: came to my show and I they would not let
Speaker 1: you leave on stage unless you did. How did you come?
Speaker 1: How did you come up with that? It's true? I
Speaker 1: had we had Uh he went to our church, right
Speaker 1: and uh he would get up there and say, it's
Speaker 1: it's a speech, right Shannon, And uh it was. It
Speaker 1: was one of those situations where you couldn't laugh, right,
Speaker 1: and your mama looking at you like yeah, So in
Speaker 1: situations where you're not supposed to be laughing, that's when
Speaker 1: things are extra funny. Correct. So he Little Darrell would
Speaker 1: be out there saying this Easter speech and we would
Speaker 1: be in the cross stand with a straight face, with
Speaker 1: tears coming down, eyes right on the leavel can't laugh
Speaker 1: just like you pledged, right then not laugh while you're online, right,
Speaker 1: So I just simply and and Saturday Entertainer, actually I
Speaker 1: told said the story is said, Saturday Entertainer helped me
Speaker 1: write the joke and do it a certain way. And
Speaker 1: when I did it the way said taught me how
Speaker 1: to do it, it blew up on BT and I
Speaker 1: was My career took off. That was it. It was
Speaker 1: in the seventy nine cutlers driving down Peach Street. He
Speaker 1: had got right in front of that Chick fil a Yeah,
Speaker 1: and said, said I had it was another name, but
Speaker 1: said it said Little Darrel, said, said my name Little Darryl,
Speaker 1: and said started doing it. We didn't hear my colors.
Speaker 1: We didn't setting nine colors driving the uptown coming to club.
Speaker 1: I'm one behind the Houston, yeah, said And I did
Speaker 1: the opening week right, you know it's earthquakes old club. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he told me how to do it and helped
Speaker 1: me form it and formulate the joke. And when I
Speaker 1: did it on B ANDT. I came out Stay at
Speaker 1: Zoo man Bruce Bruce and comedians like, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: what happened? It was like, man, he said, when this air,
Speaker 1: all the commedians they circled me. I thought, something's wrong, right,
Speaker 1: like man, your life in the change? They said that
Speaker 1: was funny because Mike Epps and Kat Williams was on
Speaker 1: that episode the kind of as well, Wow he was
Speaker 1: he went on this Alley Cat and Mike Epps had
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys Jersey. I'll never forget it. The
Speaker 1: audience was dead. It was midnight. It was the last
Speaker 1: show they had been taping all day, and here I
Speaker 1: came doing Little Darrel or whatever, and it blew up.
Speaker 1: Shannon right, U, No, lie when you say when you
Speaker 1: travel and you were doing it like you do now
Speaker 1: and all these comedians, how difficult is it because you
Speaker 1: hear the laughter, you know you back there, you hear
Speaker 1: what's going on? Yeah, and you like, Dan, what do
Speaker 1: you ever think your head? What are you saying? Not
Speaker 1: behind the uh uh? Lavelle Crawford, I'm not I'd been
Speaker 1: damn If I'm going behind him, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: would give a promoter, every dying back, He's not gonna
Speaker 1: hey listen, Now, I can almost follow anybody, right, But
Speaker 1: what I did a show with Lavelle Crawford in DC
Speaker 1: for New Year's I'm glad that I went first. I
Speaker 1: saw him standing in one spot with a suit on
Speaker 1: and a bow tie and totally destroy audience. And I
Speaker 1: just never seen somebody standing one. I'm talking about back
Speaker 1: to me, how do you follow that? Right? But I
Speaker 1: had to follow Danniell Rawlins one time. Yeah, in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: right at the Philips Arena, sold out on the Martin tour.
Speaker 1: He got a standing ovation and guess who's next me?
Speaker 1: So I had to go to my playbook. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: pulled out, had to go deep. I had to go
Speaker 1: deep in the playbook. But thank god I'm on the
Speaker 1: radio because I think they gave me a little left.
Speaker 1: So by the time I came on and say, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is our guy. We listened to the morning show
Speaker 1: and I was, but they gave me a little cushion
Speaker 1: and so I just I put on a good show
Speaker 1: that night. Also, but that was scary. Give me, give
Speaker 1: me your your mount rushmore of death comedy jam Comedians.
Speaker 1: That's been on death comedy jams, Oh my God, and
Speaker 1: then I want the one the death mount rushmore comic View,
Speaker 1: oh Man, Deaf Comedy Jam. Of course you have to
Speaker 1: start with Martin ham Burger Burger Burger. Uh. You know
Speaker 1: Bill Bellamy came out with Booty Call Ye And of
Speaker 1: course you can't talk about that if you don't say
Speaker 1: Bernie mca ain't scared of you. That was the hottest
Speaker 1: a they'll givens the weal and the ticktock. Ady'll givens
Speaker 1: Bernie mack uh who had a good set like with
Speaker 1: ripped Death Comedy Jam up Hucky Doug Uh what shocking
Speaker 1: Duck was big on b on BT comany. That's when
Speaker 1: Rack rack when he blew up. But all of those
Speaker 1: coming JB Smooth from Death Coming Baby Smooth, Sleep on
Speaker 1: my Couch with Sharyl London, wouldn't coming view or death
Speaker 1: Comedies don't come again? Okay she can she she class
Speaker 1: of ninety four. Right, I did Deaf Jam in ninety three,
Speaker 1: but Saryl Underwood and all of them they came in
Speaker 1: ninety four like a year later. Henry Watch had a
Speaker 1: real good set. Uh. He does shows with Mike Epps.
Speaker 1: One of the funniest comedians in the country. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: now b et uh b et you got on ja
Speaker 1: Ja killed it on on on Deaf Comedy. Yeah as well.
Speaker 1: H Gary Owen earthquake, earthquake. Wait, that's a dog. That's
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, U earthquake? Uh some more, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and all of the guy luster Berry, all
Speaker 1: of the guys that hosted County said was the second
Speaker 1: host d O Hughley was he original host of Beet Comedy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you had a lot of talent that uh you
Speaker 1: know to come from from the et comtedy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: those are some of the goats. Do you think there'll
Speaker 1: ever be another comic view or deaf comedy jam? Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Sh It'll have to die
Speaker 1: down because comedy is so sometimes it feels oversaturated, h
Speaker 1: or whatever. In order for it to be special, it
Speaker 1: have to kind of die down for a minute in
Speaker 1: boom kind of like all the movies and stuff, right
Speaker 1: thinking during the remake, yes or whatever, it would. It
Speaker 1: would be hard because now you got phones, people have
Speaker 1: more options than they had back then. But you know what,
Speaker 1: it's hard or not. Now that you mentioned that, it's
Speaker 1: harder to tell a joke more than once because everything
Speaker 1: is recorded. Yeah, so now you know I'll be used
Speaker 1: to get away. You could do it. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: added I still do Little Darrel right now and then,
Speaker 1: but I do it different, right, So I mentioned Little
Speaker 1: Darren as a recap, right, and then put a spin
Speaker 1: on it and then do something totally different using the
Speaker 1: same character that they love. You mentioned earlier that you're
Speaker 1: about to do a Netflix special. Is that kind of direction?
Speaker 1: Because Chappelle came back in twenty sixteen. I think he
Speaker 1: signed a deal. Yeah, it was reported. I don't know
Speaker 1: how true it is that Eddie Murphy has signed a
Speaker 1: deal with Netflix. He's gonna do a series on Netflix.
Speaker 1: Earthquake had one which was spot was fired. Yeah if
Speaker 1: that kind oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah. By
Speaker 1: the way, Dean Cole, I gave Dan Cole his first job,
Speaker 1: his first writing job, and Dean Cole we used to
Speaker 1: do colleges together back in the day. It's it's crazy
Speaker 1: because everybody was in this van. I remember Dan Cole
Speaker 1: sitting in the backseat of the van, said in the
Speaker 1: front of the van, and everybody's like famous now, right,
Speaker 1: and it's just so amazing to me. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't done it special. I did a BT special
Speaker 1: alive stand up on Beet called Open Casking Sharp, but
Speaker 1: it was like thirteen years ago. So now it's time
Speaker 1: to come back with some new heats, you know, some flavor.
Speaker 1: You know, I still got it cause I kind of
Speaker 1: settled in the radio, but I still perform low key, right,
Speaker 1: So just to kind of put something out that people
Speaker 1: have been asking me to do. Do you write your
Speaker 1: own material? Do you have some writers? I have writers
Speaker 1: for this special to help me punch up the material
Speaker 1: that I have. Uh, David Arnold was helping me before
Speaker 1: he passed away. Chris Chris Spencer is gonna be helping
Speaker 1: me out. Comedian LaVar Walker Special k other guys helping
Speaker 1: me put it together. So I got basic stuff, but
Speaker 1: they're just gonna take the stuff that I have and
Speaker 1: punch it up, punch it up and make it really funny.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's harder or easier now for comedians
Speaker 1: to get on harder? Really? Even with all the avenues
Speaker 1: you got social media, because you see a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys they kind of get their start on social
Speaker 1: Young DC, Young Fly. Yeah. See haha, Davis. And you
Speaker 1: see like Dasy Banks is like flooded. Oh yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: if you get on social media and you do some
Speaker 1: good sketches, yes, some funny sketches or whatever that would
Speaker 1: get you on. But you're doing sketches, right, but you
Speaker 1: have to catch up in the comedy club. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you can't dottch, you can't do the sketches. You gotta
Speaker 1: learn how to perform, right. So I think, uh, we
Speaker 1: had to learn how to perform first and then catch
Speaker 1: up with social media, right as with day Banks now
Speaker 1: they blew up on social media and they had to
Speaker 1: catch up and get a rhythm on stage as to
Speaker 1: how to perform right. And they're really doing a good job.
Speaker 1: I just did some shows with be Simone, just hilarious. Yeah.
Speaker 1: D Ray who who who? I don't get along with.
Speaker 1: I do a lot of shows. D I don't know
Speaker 1: why the Dray David? Yeah, he bothers me. It why
Speaker 1: he bothers you? Just annoying? He because he got life,
Speaker 1: get he got good yeah, Hazel live stuff. And then
Speaker 1: he always in my dressing room making fun of my
Speaker 1: clothes and my outfit. He'd be like, you know, like
Speaker 1: the last time I we did a show like, man,
Speaker 1: I wear this on the plane, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like my outfit that I'm talking down to your
Speaker 1: get up down about my outfit, like dyah. He texts
Speaker 1: me he has harassed me. I blocked him on several numbers.
Speaker 1: I don't know how, and he just but that's that's
Speaker 1: that's you know, there's two people. I don't like him,
Speaker 1: d Ray Davids, both of 'em. Ricky, why did you
Speaker 1: stay in the South? You had, you had an opportunity.
Speaker 1: You did a couple of movies. Weren't talking about peaches,
Speaker 1: the peaches, peaches pages. I knew you were talking the
Speaker 1: one to Grow on the tree. Yeah, no, you ain't
Speaker 1: talking if you know what Seth Bell. But there I
Speaker 1: hear not. They're not as good as you. Like neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: I like neighborhoods whatever. But in Alabama, and man, let
Speaker 1: me tell you about the South. Man, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: it's just it's different. You can come to LA and
Speaker 1: you can go to New York. Ain't nothing like simplicity, right,
Speaker 1: A quiet like people speaking, tell your people nice, how
Speaker 1: you're doing? Good food? Chef. I'm a hell of a cook.
Speaker 1: Man you know what you want some chicken and dumplings.
Speaker 1: You told me that you want some time I see you, know,
Speaker 1: I follow you every time. I see you, always cooking something. Always.
Speaker 1: You ain't got that many people in your eyes to
Speaker 1: be cooking like that. You cook like you got family
Speaker 1: reunions I have. I have four kids, and then I
Speaker 1: raised a lot of nieces in this I know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a house fool my chicken and dumplings, my green,
Speaker 1: my sauteed greens. I had a cooking show on Fox,
Speaker 1: on Fox Soul. I had a cooking show. Absolutely, shan
Speaker 1: I get down in it. Okay, what what's what's your
Speaker 1: what's the chicken? Chicken and dumblings? Everybody liked the chicken
Speaker 1: and your grandma made him right. Yeah, I know it.
Speaker 1: So you like chicken and dumb Yeah, next time you
Speaker 1: come to the South, I'll meet you in Atlanta, Okay,
Speaker 1: and I'll bring you a pot of chicken and dumblings.
Speaker 1: People go, they square bine. I put celery and carrots
Speaker 1: in there. Well that's chicken dumble. I hope you put
Speaker 1: that in the rig. Yeah, absolutely, okay, I make the
Speaker 1: best chicken and dumblings. Okay, what else I have a
Speaker 1: good fried chicken recipe, my collar greens. I do a
Speaker 1: great thing. I make a good corn bread dressing, not
Speaker 1: stuffing dressing, right, I make good dressing, good turkey wings,
Speaker 1: anything anything southern I have. I take a cooking class. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I can do gumbo. I can do shrimp at
Speaker 1: the face. I also can cook Italian. I make my
Speaker 1: own tomato sauce from scratch. I will boiled tomatoes a
Speaker 1: big pot of tomatoes for three hours, make a sauce pans,
Speaker 1: put a sauce pan with my butter, my wine, my seasonally.
Speaker 1: I have a food processor and put it off, and
Speaker 1: I draw all of my stuff up. So when I
Speaker 1: make Lazegna spaghetti, I made my own song from scratch. Shunning, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't,
Speaker 1: don't come on here and try to No. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just sasition your questions. No, no, no, no, I didn't
Speaker 1: know I have doubt in your mind. Shutting. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: for the surprise of my voice. Okay, Shannon, you act
Speaker 1: like what you're not married. I was what happened twelve
Speaker 1: years career took off, and uh, you ain't gonna brab me.
Speaker 1: You when you would nobody when you were driving that
Speaker 1: seventy nine colors, she was righting that with you when
Speaker 1: you read it. When you was the problem, she wouldn't
Speaker 1: help me dry. That's that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: actually stick out of my mind. Hey baby, can you
Speaker 1: get the wheel for an hour? I got to perform
Speaker 1: and and oh man, that was before they started doing this,
Speaker 1: before they started grabbing there. Yeah. Man, it's just hard
Speaker 1: to have a relationship, man, you all over the place.
Speaker 1: I just from me, Shannon and Jesus Christ himself. Gonna
Speaker 1: have to walk her up on the porter, said Ricky.
Speaker 1: She is now Jay. I dated Juicy for a little while.
Speaker 1: That didn't work out. Juicy just from the morning from
Speaker 1: the Little Women at Lanta. No you didn't. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: for a hot knit it didn't. We went to Appa
Speaker 1: Bees and that was that was that was. That was
Speaker 1: a short relationship. Was that didn't left. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. You're saying,
Speaker 1: you say, nope, nope, no, no. We went question I
Speaker 1: first date the Apper Bees and the lady bought a
Speaker 1: coloring book and crayons over there. It did what happened
Speaker 1: but as a grown woman, man, you capable, and they
Speaker 1: didn't know that. They didn't know you should have. I
Speaker 1: tried to explain that the lady started crying because she
Speaker 1: felt like she offended her. She did, yes, she did.
Speaker 1: But then everybody standing in the APPA bes wonder when
Speaker 1: I was putting in the baby car seat, take her
Speaker 1: back home, then you go with your food. But I
Speaker 1: heard you said. I don't know if it's true. It
Speaker 1: was reported that you said, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: as big as Kevin Hart because, yeah, I like my life.
Speaker 1: I like the simplicity of my life. Now I'm I'm
Speaker 1: happy for Kevin Hard, Chris rock Nation. I just couldn't imagine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the pressure, the pressure to deliver right in the work schedule,
Speaker 1: the workload. I mean, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta
Speaker 1: a crazy schedule. Kevin Hart is in every commercial, every movie,
Speaker 1: on the radio. Yeah, he gotta he got his uh,
Speaker 1: he got his his podcast, Yeah, cold his balls, he's
Speaker 1: doing this thing, uh something, but la husband everything. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: shutting shutting up for me. Man, you know, I'm fifty four.
Speaker 1: I was on the road every weekend for years. I've
Speaker 1: been performing for thirty three years. Right, I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to prove. I want to
Speaker 1: do it if I enjoy doing it. I just don't
Speaker 1: want the pressure. I just want to sit back in
Speaker 1: the show. I want to go to a football game.
Speaker 1: I want to go, you know, go to an Alabama State,
Speaker 1: Alabama A and the Magic City Classic. You know, go
Speaker 1: watch Alabama and Auburn. Do you travel with security? Nah?
Speaker 1: But thank God for the COVID masks, because boy it works.
Speaker 1: I can get in and up and I got the
Speaker 1: one with the fisherman. Weare around the next Yeah, I
Speaker 1: pull it all the way up the right here and
Speaker 1: have my hat pulled down. I can go anywhere. You
Speaker 1: got that from Friday next Friday, Friday after next. All
Speaker 1: I needed to set across added on the white wood. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But uh, that actually worked. Man. That that has allowed
Speaker 1: me unbelievable freedom to go anywhere, anywhere and not be
Speaker 1: not be noticed. That's on days if I don't want to, right,
Speaker 1: if I'm just trying to have some products, right or whatever.
Speaker 1: But man, I enjoy a fishing man. I know she
Speaker 1: told me I would sitting on the beach. I get
Speaker 1: off the air at eight thirty in the morning, if
Speaker 1: I do the morning shop from for a lad of
Speaker 1: Dale and we'll sit on the beach all day for
Speaker 1: a week, every single day drive over the Beminy you know, uh,
Speaker 1: because I'm a I'm a boat captain, right, and I
Speaker 1: drive over to the Muhammas across the ocean. I went
Speaker 1: through storms. I'm talking about where you getting like four
Speaker 1: to five foot way he's coming at your boat and
Speaker 1: just having to the state of course and make it
Speaker 1: to an island or try to make it back to
Speaker 1: the United States or whatever. Man, i'd be out there
Speaker 1: doing some adventures stuff. I've been taking flying lessons so
Speaker 1: I can fly boat captain. Just just I'm just having
Speaker 1: some nice relaxing experiences. Well you always disadventurous, and well
Speaker 1: you disadventurous as a child, or did you just become
Speaker 1: this way when I when I became an adult, I
Speaker 1: started getting no, we started getting money stuff you got
Speaker 1: to call money to have a boat. Well, well, even
Speaker 1: as a child, man, I played nine different instruments. I
Speaker 1: played the bass, guitar, I played a drum, I played
Speaker 1: the trumpet, the baritone in the Frenchman of the two book,
Speaker 1: the piano and the organ. And I read music so
Speaker 1: I'm a musician. Wow, so I could sit at the piano.
Speaker 1: I was a numbers of music at a church for years.
Speaker 1: I played basketball. Didn't make the basketball team, but a
Speaker 1: damn sure made the football team. You see, I did
Speaker 1: sit down football. Why we gotta come back while we
Speaker 1: gotta played? Doing so good? The interview with you ask anybody,
Speaker 1: ask anybody in him I played football or Shannon. The
Speaker 1: interview was going so well. It was Floyd beautiful. It's
Speaker 1: still I love the way we were transitioning, getting in
Speaker 1: and out of topic. We're in a sports building. Go
Speaker 1: get a football right now, Go round a dead route
Speaker 1: and watch when you turn around, it's in your chest.
Speaker 1: Go round a post corner, run a post, hit that corner,
Speaker 1: turn around. I promise you it will be right there. Ricky,
Speaker 1: you fifty four, you don't mind throw a football to
Speaker 1: thirty years. I'm a son that played college ball. Not you.
Speaker 1: You don't play collegeball. He does, You don't throw the football?
Speaker 1: I do. I do, Shannon, I still Shannon when I'm backstage.
Speaker 1: Before I go on stage before him, guess one of
Speaker 1: my rituals warming up with a football. Mike Epps said,
Speaker 1: I get you ready to go on the stage, Mike
Speaker 1: it because it's just get me loose. Mike ELPs DC
Speaker 1: Young Flying. We had to pick up flag football game
Speaker 1: backstage before a show in Houston. Mike Ether was like, damn,
Speaker 1: ain't know you could throw like this and know you
Speaker 1: had an arm like this. I have an arm. Don't
Speaker 1: get a football, but stop talking about it. We ain't
Speaker 1: got no footballs here. Yes, your dude, we're in the
Speaker 1: spot all all these shows, y'all ever in the Fox build.
Speaker 1: You have Fox Studio football downstairs, and you are at
Speaker 1: the RAMS facility. We don't have football here. We have
Speaker 1: the cameras, we have microphones. Do get a college football.
Speaker 1: I'll show you can't throw the NFL ball, but I
Speaker 1: can throw the college football. You stole the show in
Speaker 1: Friday after then Friday after next? Yeah, how was that expelled?
Speaker 1: Why we go through this? Man? Brothers? I believe we
Speaker 1: were related, But go ahead. You're originally supposed to play
Speaker 1: Kat Williams character. Yes, and Kat Williams supposed to play
Speaker 1: Mike character, and somebody said no, we want you to
Speaker 1: play mikelau right, and then yeah, because Kat william was
Speaker 1: gonna be the Santa Claus, right, and then uh, and
Speaker 1: they switched it over, right, because I when I auditioned,
Speaker 1: I auditioned for Mighty Mike. Right. You know what when
Speaker 1: I went in there to audition, I'm at the toilet
Speaker 1: when when Kat Williams to use the bath room, that
Speaker 1: was that was That's the line I had to use
Speaker 1: the audition. So they switched it up. So I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could do this Santa Claus role Friday. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know that because I did my role
Speaker 1: like in four days, right, they shot all my stuff
Speaker 1: in four days. I went back to Birmingham came back
Speaker 1: out because they changed the ending. Did you know that? No?
Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know, the ending, but they got
Speaker 1: the fighting or whatever. The ending was me giving out
Speaker 1: Santa Claus giving out presents to his kids. So the
Speaker 1: test audists didn't like the way it ended, so they
Speaker 1: changed the ending, so I had to come back. The
Speaker 1: scariest thing was laying down in front of that limousine
Speaker 1: and you better hope and pray that he got it
Speaker 1: on dry and not reversed, because that was real. But
Speaker 1: I had to really lay there while that limousine peeled off.
Speaker 1: So they they allowed me to get up about three
Speaker 1: or four times to go and look at it to
Speaker 1: make sure. I said, go up, I put in reverse.
Speaker 1: I said, put it in dry. I put it in
Speaker 1: verta time. I got comfortable, I said, okay, let's go
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're gonna do this one time. One time.
Speaker 1: So they actually did it twice and that was scary.
Speaker 1: And the part where the Santa Claus got with the
Speaker 1: clothes line right when we were laying on the ground.
Speaker 1: We was in a real backyard somewhere south of La Shannon.
Speaker 1: Why was maggots in the dirt when was somebody's backyard
Speaker 1: for real? The dirt was infested with maggots, like real talk.
Speaker 1: I had to lay down there, right. So that was
Speaker 1: a stunt man that did the clothes line the fall,
Speaker 1: but I had to pick up where he was already down.
Speaker 1: And I'm laying down and I'm looking and I see
Speaker 1: maggots in the dirt. True story, it was disgusting. Did
Speaker 1: you know you had hit it out the part when
Speaker 1: you did this role? I had no idea, never seen
Speaker 1: the movie, never read the whole script. Friday after next
Speaker 1: come out, I get my kids. Where we going? We're
Speaker 1: going into the movies we're going to see Friday after next.
Speaker 1: I have a small role in the movie the movie
Speaker 1: Come On, and it starts out with me right first
Speaker 1: of all, to see some more name on the screen
Speaker 1: done DC Curry and then Ricky smiling, and people in
Speaker 1: the theater store clapped because we're in Birmingham, but they
Speaker 1: didn't know I was in the theater right. And the
Speaker 1: movie go on. Santa Claus get hit by the car
Speaker 1: and my kids started crying. I had to take them
Speaker 1: out side tell him that I was okay, right, and
Speaker 1: and then everybody realized I was in the theater showing
Speaker 1: right and start clapping. Everybody was proud. That was the
Speaker 1: first big movie. Then I end up doing uh first
Speaker 1: Sunday yep H with David E. Talbert and I actually
Speaker 1: was in the movie with Ice cuping Mike else all
Speaker 1: about the Benjamin. They cut the card out because they
Speaker 1: rewrote it right. But I was snitch Mitch in that
Speaker 1: movie when you did you? Did you freestyle any lines
Speaker 1: because you like Cube saying I have you in this
Speaker 1: movie because I just want Ricky smiling. I want you
Speaker 1: to be you. But here's the base, here's what you
Speaker 1: need to say. Here's what's happening. You're robbing them, right,
Speaker 1: he said, don't talk over each other. Everybody just stopped
Speaker 1: talking over each other, like, and once we got it together,
Speaker 1: we shot it a couple of times, running down the
Speaker 1: alley all that stuff or whatever, so it was it
Speaker 1: was easy. What made you hit the don cause you
Speaker 1: hit the d man. I was a fan of that. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was a fan. I've been doing that since, even
Speaker 1: doing it right, you know what I'm saying, Like, like
Speaker 1: the guys do the grit like I go on stage
Speaker 1: right now, I do the gritty right I come on stage, man,
Speaker 1: I'll be killing that gritty like like when I'm like,
Speaker 1: I thought, you say you appropriate. My son is a
Speaker 1: college athlete. I can do the gritty. I can do
Speaker 1: the gritty. I'm not gonna do the prep. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be washing machine. I can do the duggy. I
Speaker 1: would kill the duggy right now. I had no rick.
Speaker 1: But you that's saying appropriate, Shun. You still got to
Speaker 1: be be relatable in help. I'm I'm fifty four, but
Speaker 1: fifty four it's not old you until you beginning to
Speaker 1: have my shirt tuned to my pants have an adult
Speaker 1: diaper home na, I don't care about the adult diving,
Speaker 1: but you should have one jeans and hard about Stacy Adams. No, sir,
Speaker 1: come up, you know what? Okay, First of all, I
Speaker 1: changed clothing in your dressing room. You did. I just
Speaker 1: see one pair of Stacy Adams in your dressing room. Nah?
Speaker 1: You so I saw your shoes. Yeah, so don't play
Speaker 1: with me. Say keep it moving. You see y'all see
Speaker 1: money over here? Trying to do I keep people out
Speaker 1: of my dress. He got shut. I saw your shoes. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave it at that. I mean it was
Speaker 1: one pair of ninety clouds of joy. Their shoes in there,
Speaker 1: those square toe gamers. No, none of that stuff. All
Speaker 1: of those shoes was full gossip. Yeah, okay, yeah, the
Speaker 1: residual checks. Do you do you want to do any
Speaker 1: more movies? Would you like to do any more movies?
Speaker 1: Or you like I'm done? I didn't have my share.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a situation where I could get
Speaker 1: in and out, like like when I was in baggage plane, right,
Speaker 1: I threw the la and shot that and one day
Speaker 1: and got on the plane and left, and the way
Speaker 1: David E. Talbot and land Talbert was some of the
Speaker 1: best producers in the in the in La they spread
Speaker 1: it out through the whole movie. Right, So I like
Speaker 1: to like situation where I can get in, shoot, do
Speaker 1: what I have to do. But but sitting in a
Speaker 1: trailer all day every day. It don't mix with a
Speaker 1: D H D. Right, because I had it right though.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you Bean, You know how
Speaker 1: you'd be talking to somebody talking to you too long?
Speaker 1: Your brain, your brain go to commercial. Yeah, you talking
Speaker 1: to liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty, got you, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: talking to me over two minute like e moo e
Speaker 1: moo and Doug, I'm looking at you. In First Sunday,
Speaker 1: Ice c Tracy Morgan can't Waga Hall, the Redder, Divine,
Speaker 1: Red Grand I went, I played football, Red Red Grand
Speaker 1: was on the team of State. Yeah yeah, shout out
Speaker 1: of the Red Grand, Red Grand Happy belated Founders Day.
Speaker 1: You know Red Grand and Capel Yeah he capit Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Red Grand is running from may in Dyeah.
Speaker 1: That's one of the good yes bag you claiming with
Speaker 1: Paula Patton, Laura Lunn and Jail Scott Christy and A Milliard.
Speaker 1: I mean boys, kJ chens J. I mean, bro, I
Speaker 1: mean you don't want to play football. This man here.
Speaker 1: We just won't give it up her because you won't
Speaker 1: let it. I want you to respect the fact. See,
Speaker 1: you just respect the fact that I can throw a football.
Speaker 1: Still I stopped talking. Okay, well you know what you boy?
Speaker 1: You okay, okay, okay. You know when you you interview
Speaker 1: Dan y'all went on the football I gotta workout video
Speaker 1: with Kevin Ridley when he was playing that Bama. I
Speaker 1: went to the side plays like, yeah, you're kidding. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: do a five and out. He's turning around that balls
Speaker 1: like that. I got the video on my Instagram. I
Speaker 1: show it to you. You No, I'm good. You know
Speaker 1: I was a comedian you know before I played football. Yea,
Speaker 1: I did stand up where the same place you played football.
Speaker 1: In my mind, hold on, I'm gonna send you to
Speaker 1: pay I got your I'm gonna send you the picture. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you you do all about the Benjamins.
Speaker 1: He was like, you guys are people over there laughing
Speaker 1: your staff people, people, people Hollywood over there laughing by people,
Speaker 1: and you're boy from St. Louis over here, your people, man,
Speaker 1: they go ahead, shan. So when they told you that,
Speaker 1: but you guy, you already got paid. I mean obviously
Speaker 1: you wanted to be in there, but they had them
Speaker 1: cut the checks. So you straight when they cut you
Speaker 1: out of all of my the benjaments, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good opportunity to be with icequ Yeah.
Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing personal right against me. They rewrote, so
Speaker 1: my part didn't make sense. But Q was like, rick,
Speaker 1: I got something else for you. And then I end
Speaker 1: up doing uh first Sunday. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I had a sitcom too on TV one with Ray Jr.
Speaker 1: So I had that show, and then I had a
Speaker 1: reality show that was six seasons I called Ricky Smiling
Speaker 1: for Real with my Morning showing my kids. So I
Speaker 1: had a lot of a lot of stuff. I still
Speaker 1: don't understand how you find all the time to do
Speaker 1: all this shout up. I just do I do. I
Speaker 1: consolidate and compartmentalize. Okay, that's so important. I get the
Speaker 1: compartmentalization of it, yes, but but but I just kind
Speaker 1: of do everything like January February marks, right, those are
Speaker 1: your those are your busy months. I will grind okay,
Speaker 1: none stop okay, But a lot of people don't understand.
Speaker 1: When I get off the air man, I'll take a
Speaker 1: three hour nap. Right, I'll go back home and get
Speaker 1: in the bed, let the blinds down, get under the
Speaker 1: cover and go to sleep. Right, turn the phone off.
Speaker 1: I don't do this cell phone, my cell phone never,
Speaker 1: and my ring will stay off twenty four seven. Right,
Speaker 1: I got my phone set, so my mama call, or
Speaker 1: my son in college call whatever, it'll ring or whatever.
Speaker 1: But let's just be cash up with them college. I
Speaker 1: have a daughter at bell or a son at Alabamas.
Speaker 1: I got two scenes. I got two born in college.
Speaker 1: But I have the discipline to say no, right. I
Speaker 1: have a discipline to create space for myself, to give
Speaker 1: me time to think. And sometime I wake up, I
Speaker 1: go through my text messages and respond from important to
Speaker 1: less important, from how you during the day, just checking
Speaker 1: on you, to hey I need an answer right now
Speaker 1: this that and we need to make a decision. That's
Speaker 1: how I do. I'd be going through by texts are
Speaker 1: like kay, hey, yeah, yeah, man, you know exactly all
Speaker 1: that all that like, no, I ain't been no text,
Speaker 1: No I can't I just yeah, it'd be too much. Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah you like group chat? No I don't either. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's too because see, now you're getting all this spense,
Speaker 1: especially when yeah, brom that you don't know. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: talking to you. I ain't trying to get everybody in
Speaker 1: all these people in the all people do the people
Speaker 1: in their sixties the group group text. Only people in
Speaker 1: their sixties and seventies do stuff like that. What do
Speaker 1: you like more? Radio? Stand up movies, reality TV? Sitcom?
Speaker 1: Because you've been in all, You've been in them all. Well,
Speaker 1: you know I do like reality TV because you like drama. Nah,
Speaker 1: I didn't you see I didn't need the feel it
Speaker 1: on my show. I didn't see the sitcom because I
Speaker 1: was about to ask you, are you like Housewives of Atlanta? Uh?
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, Shannon, You're gonna cringe. My favorite
Speaker 1: TV show that I watched all day. Yeah, first forty eight,
Speaker 1: I like the first forty and two. I can't snippy
Speaker 1: snitch Y'll be dry snitching like mug. It be well
Speaker 1: chieved Burger. They'd be telling him everything. In churches that
Speaker 1: it'd be that damn that damn hunted biscuit churches that.
Speaker 1: You know, I had had churches chicken since eighty since
Speaker 1: eighty two. Yeah, I don't think I've had church of Chicken.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna your chicken out, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna be Krispy Chicken. I like Chrispy Chicken. Christma Chicken
Speaker 1: is good. I like the papers have been public. You
Speaker 1: want public chicken down and chicken that they fight sh
Speaker 1: and the cakes and they and they desserts and they
Speaker 1: they bakery, yeah, off the chain. But they got chris
Speaker 1: Chicken la. Anybody know they got Chrispy Chick out. But
Speaker 1: when my granddad's sister, my grandfather's sister died, yea, they
Speaker 1: had a church's chicken head just can't was banging in
Speaker 1: the eighties, and uh it was that repath yeah, and
Speaker 1: the lady was like, do you want this piece or
Speaker 1: that piece? I said that piece. Back then they wasn't
Speaker 1: wearing rubber gloves. Yeah. And later had a fringdom missing,
Speaker 1: and the old lady had a little dark spot right
Speaker 1: there and she grabbed a chicken like that and she
Speaker 1: put it on my plate and it's and it's all
Speaker 1: I saw you done with you you done with church
Speaker 1: and sleep that night but I didn't eat that chicken,
Speaker 1: and I hadn't had a sense because every time I
Speaker 1: see churches chicken, it's all I see coming back. You
Speaker 1: roll for this man, You're roll of all the impressions
Speaker 1: that you've done. What is your favorite one? Uh? I
Speaker 1: have this character little Dad Joe Willie. Joe was my
Speaker 1: favorite Joe Willie, Joe Willie in the Du the Roumannaires.
Speaker 1: So this is poking fun at the gospel group, the
Speaker 1: male male course, like when you and I grew up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I host a male chorus convention in Augusta, Georgia, every
Speaker 1: year every ye at the Bell Auditorium. And Joe Willie
Speaker 1: and the Du the Romans. Joe Willard is a big
Speaker 1: guy that is real physical. Yeah, but I but all
Speaker 1: the other singers are real all men, right, they're in
Speaker 1: their seventies and eighties in real in real lifefe. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I can sing a little bit, but they sing
Speaker 1: in background and it actually sound good. Right. But Joe
Speaker 1: Willie kind of like in a big suit, kind of
Speaker 1: got got gray hair, got the kind of like professor
Speaker 1: clump a little bit. Okay, but he's moving, he moving,
Speaker 1: he jumping, he's spinning, he doing all this stuff. But
Speaker 1: Joe Willie is my favorite character. That's the one I
Speaker 1: have the most fun with. Right. You you mentioned that
Speaker 1: you could you play like seven instruments. You can play
Speaker 1: the piano. You mentioned that you played the piano, You
Speaker 1: played the organ in the church. You play a lot
Speaker 1: of different instruments. Yeah. Have you ever thought about did
Speaker 1: you ever think about doing anything in music? Yeah? My
Speaker 1: goal was shunning the be a musician. But I would
Speaker 1: do a comedy show at choir rehearsal. I would get
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars to play at a small church right
Speaker 1: in Birmingham and end up doing doing imperson nations of
Speaker 1: the pastor or somebody in the church or whatever in
Speaker 1: a comedian name. Uh, Chuckie Jenkins took me over to
Speaker 1: the comedy club one night to watch him right, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I can I think I can do
Speaker 1: that cause I'm funny. Right, everybody said all was funny,
Speaker 1: And I went back a couple of months later and
Speaker 1: then open mic night, right, and then I end up
Speaker 1: opening up for George Wallace. Okay, so that was the
Speaker 1: first person I opened up for, right, and then UH
Speaker 1: just kind of just kind of went from there. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, I wanted to be a gospel musician, classical pianists.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed playing the instrument. I've been taking lessons since
Speaker 1: the third grade, and I learned how to play by
Speaker 1: ear when I got to Alabama State because I was
Speaker 1: minoring in music, right or whatever, so I had took
Speaker 1: all these applied piano classes, applied trumpet class or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I was. I was really into me and I
Speaker 1: still am. You know, I'm a big soft rock fan,
Speaker 1: so Stilly Dan, the Eagles, Fleetwood Man. I go to
Speaker 1: every Elton John concert. Sometimes I take off to go
Speaker 1: see Elton John, right or whatever. But but I am
Speaker 1: a big Frankie Beverly and Maids, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder
Speaker 1: or whatever. I love music. Were you funny as a kid?
Speaker 1: I mean, cause a lot of people getting getting the comedy,
Speaker 1: you know, so kids don't make fun of them me.
Speaker 1: I talked with a list, So me, I make jokes,
Speaker 1: I have get somebody, I make jokes about somebody else
Speaker 1: who the kids start laughing at them, leave me alone.
Speaker 1: So were you naturally funny as a kid? I was
Speaker 1: a laugher. Okay, yeah, I was a laugher, But I
Speaker 1: started learning how to be funny, so I would watch
Speaker 1: the ones that was actually funny, right, and they still
Speaker 1: funny to this day because we all still hang together.
Speaker 1: I got folks, I hang with that we go back
Speaker 1: to elementary school. Okay, So I'm trying, you know, it
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out how can I put this
Speaker 1: on stage? Because I'm doing plays in piano, so so
Speaker 1: being on stage was nothing for me, right, So let
Speaker 1: me figure out how to be funny on stage? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: when all these prank calls, did you ever get in
Speaker 1: trouble for doing making me prank calls? Well? Back then,
Speaker 1: before caller ID, we usually have the phone book, right,
Speaker 1: you know, you spend it out of your cousin house,
Speaker 1: had a phone book open. I got in trouble one time.
Speaker 1: I called my neighbor and taught him and his dad.
Speaker 1: They had won some some tickets to see the Commodoors,
Speaker 1: but they have to be at the radio station thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: And when the summer on the front porch and Washington
Speaker 1: run out of the house, hill out of the driveway.
Speaker 1: But they came back real slope. They came back real slope. Man,
Speaker 1: did they ever know it? Did they know what you did.
Speaker 1: They do now they now they know now, But back
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't say nothing because I ain't want to
Speaker 1: get a whipping. Well why do you think, why why
Speaker 1: do you think you're so relatable, especially the black woman
Speaker 1: Bernie's Jenkins, that voice. Why is it so relatable to
Speaker 1: the black community. Uh cause everybody have a Bernie's Jenkin,
Speaker 1: a Miss Janey or whatever. Everybody knows somebody, right, So
Speaker 1: when you do church annwncing. We grew up in the church.
Speaker 1: You know you had the lady to go up there
Speaker 1: and do the church. Now you read it, man come right,
Speaker 1: so to take the church anoun and just make him
Speaker 1: funny or whatever. And uh, you know, you're just talking
Speaker 1: about what people know about and we tried to read
Speaker 1: probably be getting every last all of them. Govern yourself,
Speaker 1: what according to you? Look at Tyler Perry and what
Speaker 1: he's been able to do in Atlanta. Did you look
Speaker 1: at how he got started doing media as a play Hollywood?
Speaker 1: Now we good puts his own money up, becomes a billionaire,
Speaker 1: build this big studio, state of the art rival anything
Speaker 1: to have out here in Hollywood. Yeah, he did. And uh,
Speaker 1: I just saw the the overview of his home that
Speaker 1: he built, not in Douglas. Yeah. Yeah, you think Queen
Speaker 1: Elizabeth got something. He got something, he got something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you know, Tyler? How surprised are you that
Speaker 1: he was able to do that in such a short
Speaker 1: amount of time, because it's not like Tyler's not that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're probably about the same major maybe give
Speaker 1: U take a year or two. He might be. He
Speaker 1: actually younger than ugh Y. I met Tyler Perry in
Speaker 1: baggage claim at LaGuardia Airport. That had to be many
Speaker 1: many years ago because he didn't know nothing about nobody
Speaker 1: or claim. It was some years ago. Tyler Perry and
Speaker 1: I and Earthquake, Yea and Niss Nash. We was we
Speaker 1: had a pilot on Fox called The Kings of Comedy.
Speaker 1: It was a sketch show like Saturday Night Line. And uh,
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, uh he recognized me from Comic View.
Speaker 1: He said, he I'll just say I'm Tyler Perry. He said,
Speaker 1: I do plays. I said, nice to meet you, and uh,
Speaker 1: he said, how are you getting to the hotel or whatever.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm just gonna catch He said, you can
Speaker 1: ride with me. So he had a car, right, So
Speaker 1: I jumped in the car. It was just Tyler Perry
Speaker 1: and I. We were just talking. So he telling me
Speaker 1: about this charty. He said, man, you'd be doing Bernie jinging,
Speaker 1: but I do this character named Medea. So Tyler Perry
Speaker 1: was telling me all of this stuff. And there is
Speaker 1: a sketch that wants to Latham has with Tyler Perry
Speaker 1: doing Mdea and I'm doing Bernie's Jenkin with Niss Nash
Speaker 1: called the You. It's supposed to be making fun of
Speaker 1: the view. Right. We did a sketch called the Pew
Speaker 1: and it didn't get picked up. They picked this show
Speaker 1: that said did said entertainer did or whatever, but it
Speaker 1: didn't get green lit. But we shot the pilot. We
Speaker 1: stayed in New York City for a couple of months,
Speaker 1: right to dinner every night, right, and I knew he
Speaker 1: was gonna be big or whatever because he was talking business.
Speaker 1: I wasn't business savvy back then, but sitting in that
Speaker 1: car with him, uh, Tyler Perry and Nis Nash, earthquake myself.
Speaker 1: We went to dinner every night or whatever, but he
Speaker 1: was staying over in that the only thing that caught
Speaker 1: my eye. I knew he had money. He had money then,
Speaker 1: because we're standing in this this fancy hotel across from
Speaker 1: uh Central Park or whatever. You know that rif Caughton. No,
Speaker 1: it's something else, but it's real or whatever. It's real expensive.
Speaker 1: But I recently stayed there. I left because it's decorated
Speaker 1: like a funeral and and uh, I mean it's set
Speaker 1: up like like when you make funeral rights, like they
Speaker 1: have a bituary. Right. I couldn't stay. I had to
Speaker 1: go to something modern, right when. I made a whole
Speaker 1: video on Instagram about that. But I knew he was
Speaker 1: gonna make it. And I am so proud of him.
Speaker 1: He has given so many people jobs and opportunities and stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: I absolutely, I'm I am a huge fan. People like
Speaker 1: well the Munday, I'm like, listen man, then Chris Fatim
Speaker 1: coming man, A man shouldn't be wearing no dress man,
Speaker 1: Listen he did he listen? Okay? Nobody well beat I
Speaker 1: wear bikini with being all I will right? Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: said nothing nothing? When when Jamie Foxx do, wonder when
Speaker 1: Mark Lawrence do or whatever? Man people have the name?
Speaker 1: When people have taken all that? Rob Williams started out
Speaker 1: with missed out fire right, right before that Flip Wilson,
Speaker 1: Flip Wisson dead, Geraldine come on now and then Benny Hill.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know so man, people do something that you
Speaker 1: do it for the comedy, right. People have over sexualized
Speaker 1: and I want too much sometimes yeah, yeah they're reading
Speaker 1: in the stuff and yeah or whatever, man, but the
Speaker 1: stuff if it made people laugh. Our job as comedians,
Speaker 1: right is to make people laugh. And then now people
Speaker 1: want me to do the character now, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do it right because you get criticized, right, right
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know what I'm saying, because I know
Speaker 1: who I am, right, you know, as a person. Yep.
Speaker 1: And I liked Tyler because there no matter what my deal,
Speaker 1: what you think, there's a message and everything that she's
Speaker 1: and it's funny. It is period, point blank. You and
Speaker 1: I both waived. My grandmother raised me. And you talk
Speaker 1: about your grandmother and the influence that she had in
Speaker 1: your life. Oh yeah, skill that yeah, man, Shannon. My
Speaker 1: grandmother's lived across the street from each other. That's how
Speaker 1: my mom and dad met. Okay. My mom and dad
Speaker 1: were musicians. They both played snare drunk okay, and they
Speaker 1: graduated high school and had me a year later. Okay.
Speaker 1: And I had my grandparents and my mom's mom and
Speaker 1: my dad's mom and dad or whatever they was wanted
Speaker 1: from my life. And I had grandparents on Shannon, I
Speaker 1: have touched every last month of my great grandparents. I
Speaker 1: met my grandmamma, mom and dad, at I met my
Speaker 1: granddad mom and dad. I met my other grandmama dad,
Speaker 1: and I met my other uh my granddad's mom. Most
Speaker 1: of my great grandparents. I have touched and had relationship
Speaker 1: with my grandmother. My great grandmother was a hundred and
Speaker 1: six years old when she died or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: had ever last one of my uh my grandparents, and uh,
Speaker 1: they've been a blessing to my life. My grandfather, my
Speaker 1: dad died. My dad got killed when I was about
Speaker 1: six seven years old. You can't make for Vietnam, right, yeah?
Speaker 1: And I mean if we think about that, you go
Speaker 1: to Vietnam and you survived that only to come back
Speaker 1: here right and lose your life, lose your life? How
Speaker 1: much of that do you remember? Then I can tell you.
Speaker 1: I can tell you more about my dad's funeral at
Speaker 1: at seven years old, and I can tell you about
Speaker 1: about my grandparents funeral who just recently my granddad who
Speaker 1: just died three years ago. I can tell you where
Speaker 1: everybody sat, where everybody had on. Uh. I think that
Speaker 1: was seventy three or seventy four April v eleventh, when
Speaker 1: my dad died. I'll never forget it. You know, that
Speaker 1: was that was something that It's probably one of the
Speaker 1: only things that made me cry to this day as
Speaker 1: a fifty four year old man, because when I think
Speaker 1: about watching my grandparents sit over here on this front row,
Speaker 1: crime like they crying that they that tear me up
Speaker 1: to this date and to this day or whatever. Uh.
Speaker 1: My grandparents had a chance to see me on beet.
Speaker 1: They had a chance to see me do some movie
Speaker 1: and TV stuff. They saw me on death jam. I
Speaker 1: made him proud. They get They gave me everything with nothing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. My granddad worked at still Plant,
Speaker 1: my grandma worked at the airport or whatever. They taught
Speaker 1: the class. They taught me table manners, good home training, respect,
Speaker 1: good morning, good evening, Yes ma'am, no ma'am, Which ain't
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with this generation. Try to say that yes
Speaker 1: ma'am and no ma'am. It sounds slavish, and that's a problem.
Speaker 1: It's respect or whatever. And I just appreciate everything that
Speaker 1: they taught me because now that the discipline now that
Speaker 1: I use with my granddad. Well, I'm not gonna wake
Speaker 1: you up for school. No, No, we don't use alarm
Speaker 1: clocks in this house because if you go to bed
Speaker 1: with your job on your mind, you're gonna wake up.
Speaker 1: So take your ass to bed early and then you
Speaker 1: you won't miss the bus. Right, And now I don't
Speaker 1: use an alarm clock to get up and do radio,
Speaker 1: which the show starts at five. That mean you have
Speaker 1: to be up at three thirty. And we'll go to
Speaker 1: bed right six thirty, seven thirty. I'm in the bed,
Speaker 1: lights off, TV, off, sleep at six thirties, you know,
Speaker 1: start getting dark in the fall. Yeah, yeah, I understand
Speaker 1: it shouldn't I be just like this. You put your
Speaker 1: hands together. You put your hand right there and crush
Speaker 1: Shannon Shannon at six thirty. I don't care about if
Speaker 1: I got a company or whatever. Somebody's somebody rolled through.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be early, like even gonna be early. Okay,
Speaker 1: you go go to bed to night this early? You
Speaker 1: were shot? Oh yeah, uh what transpired? Oh my beeper
Speaker 1: went off? Okay, okay, this this this ninety five, My
Speaker 1: beeper went off. So I stopped at the pay phone
Speaker 1: because somebody hit uh. I think, what is it? Four
Speaker 1: one one with nine one one nine one when l
Speaker 1: O V E? When you turn it upside down or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I go to the payphone. No, four one one
Speaker 1: one something like that. Whatever that's how you text back.
Speaker 1: Then Yeah, well I thought the nine one one't been
Speaker 1: of the emergency. That's why you would pull over and
Speaker 1: call no. But I think if you text shale or
Speaker 1: something like that means like like love or something whatever,
Speaker 1: certain certain numbers, they'll put it in. If you're turning
Speaker 1: the beeper upside down, it'll read something else. Okay. So
Speaker 1: I went to the pay phone, and so they was
Speaker 1: robbing this other guy my friends Journey that was at
Speaker 1: the pay phone, and it was like get up. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't have nothing. It was like boom, sitting, I
Speaker 1: get up. They shot me to make him get it up,
Speaker 1: to let him know that they were serious on that.
Speaker 1: You can laughing. You want to talk about got wo
Speaker 1: whoa I got that to do it? That man, get out.
Speaker 1: Shannon sawed off twelve gauge point blank. He said hold
Speaker 1: on second, you should say, hold on just a second.
Speaker 1: I get you a party. Nah, I rang in there.
Speaker 1: He didn't give me. I was about to run if
Speaker 1: you'd waited one most second. I was about the jet
Speaker 1: because if it would happened. Already got hit by a car,
Speaker 1: almost got hit by a car running across the street
Speaker 1: after I got shot, right, I still shot. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I still have them see that in
Speaker 1: the elbow. Yeah, see those buckshot? Yeah, sawed off twelve
Speaker 1: gauge man like real talk. And you're going to be
Speaker 1: laid in the hospital. What's going through your mind? Well?
Speaker 1: I was in Uh, I wore you at the time.
Speaker 1: You don't mind me. I had to me about twenty one, okay,
Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two. I had already did death coming
Speaker 1: to jam Wow think I think yeah or something on
Speaker 1: b et the old kind of get what they were
Speaker 1: to calm cam yeah or something. Uh so, Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: in the hospital and I'm in ICU. I got all
Speaker 1: these two the things is poop poo, And I look
Speaker 1: up at the TV and I see all these uh
Speaker 1: police cars chasing a white Bronco. I got shot that night.
Speaker 1: You got shot the same night that oj was supposed
Speaker 1: to turn himself here. I got shot when they found
Speaker 1: Nicole Brown Simpson and run Goldman. Okay, I got shot
Speaker 1: that night. You got shot that night. So when I
Speaker 1: went to surgery, when I came, when I woke up,
Speaker 1: I saw a police officers chasing a white Bronco. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's great. And I'm laying there in intensive care of
Speaker 1: watching this and I'm seeing the whole O. J. Simpson
Speaker 1: right right, uh so. Uh but yeah, I was in
Speaker 1: a hospital man for a couple of weeks, and that
Speaker 1: was crazy. It was It was scary. I could have died. Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember the guy the ambulance said, hey man, I said,
Speaker 1: am I gonna be okay? And he was holding my hand.
Speaker 1: I said just hold my hand. And I don't never
Speaker 1: forget that man the ambulance he was he was like, Rick,
Speaker 1: you did they catch the guy they shot you? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a whole story. The guy, the guy that shot me, uh,
Speaker 1: got caught, went to prison for did twenty five years.
Speaker 1: They called me for a parole hearing. So I went
Speaker 1: in there with the attitude, Nah, I wanted him to
Speaker 1: do the rest of his time. Yeah, he violated my
Speaker 1: life and I got in there, I saw his mother
Speaker 1: sitting over there, and then you know, you can look
Speaker 1: and tell people, you know that people struggling. His lady
Speaker 1: probably been going to prison ever since he's been in there.
Speaker 1: She's been going, She'm been going. You feeling sorry for
Speaker 1: his mother. Then I started breaking down, like, Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: my life is good. God is good. Let me get
Speaker 1: this lady back to do what I can to get
Speaker 1: this lady get a son back to her. But I
Speaker 1: could go on with my life and they could go
Speaker 1: on with daylife. Right. And he eventually got out and
Speaker 1: he got killed drag racing. He got killed two months
Speaker 1: after he got out of prison. Then I was taking
Speaker 1: my mom some black eyed peas. I had made some
Speaker 1: black eyed peas that I'm famous for taking my mom
Speaker 1: some black eyed peas. Coincidentally, somebody hit me on Facebook
Speaker 1: and told me that the guy had got killed and
Speaker 1: where the funerals at. Coincidentally, I'm driving down Birmingham. Version
Speaker 1: of Peach Tree is called First Avenue. Okay, so that's
Speaker 1: our main street that go through Birmingham. So I'm driving
Speaker 1: down through Birmingham and run across his funeral procession because
Speaker 1: I saw him coming out of the funeral home and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jeep with the doors off Rubicon And that
Speaker 1: was more morbid than the ninety shot. That scared me
Speaker 1: more than anything. The guy that shot you, almost took
Speaker 1: your life is in this hearse passing by. That. That
Speaker 1: gave me chills. I didn't sleep for two months. Wow. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: your daughter was in a situation where she was in
Speaker 1: a road rage at incident and she got shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where were you when you got the call? And what's
Speaker 1: going through your mind? I was on the air. I
Speaker 1: was at the radio station. Okay, I was on the air.
Speaker 1: My daughter's mom hit me on the cellphone, Hey, call
Speaker 1: me emergency. I was like, okay, let me do all right,
Speaker 1: y'all ricks By the morning show. Fifteen after the hour,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about blah blah blah. Then look
Speaker 1: at it and then the next text, meister said Aaron
Speaker 1: was shot. And so I just hit I just hit
Speaker 1: the phone to down what she said, Yeah, Aaron got shot.
Speaker 1: I said, how my daughter get shot? My daughter is
Speaker 1: a straight age student, right, my daughter attends Beller University. Right,
Speaker 1: but mohamma daughter gets shot. She said she was at
Speaker 1: a red light and some guys on this side of
Speaker 1: her and this side of her started shooting back and
Speaker 1: forth and she got hit twice. And so this in
Speaker 1: the in the beginning of COVID, Shannon, So I had
Speaker 1: to figure out a flight. So I had to fly
Speaker 1: from Birmingham to Dallas df W Airport, get in a
Speaker 1: car and drive from DFW Airport to love Field Airport
Speaker 1: to get on Southwest Airline to fly to Houston. Only
Speaker 1: did get to Houston and can't go in the hospital
Speaker 1: because it's COVID, right, So that was that was trauma.
Speaker 1: It brought back all of my trauma and UH, to
Speaker 1: this day, I'm still in therapy because it brought back
Speaker 1: up all my old trauma. You getting shot, the men
Speaker 1: getting shot at ninety five and it and and that
Speaker 1: was trauma itself because your daughter got shot, right and shutting.
Speaker 1: I was on the on the air UH a week
Speaker 1: and a half later after she got out to the hospital,
Speaker 1: because when she got out to the hospital, people had
Speaker 1: sent food, turkey leg hunt, UH, the mayor, the city council,
Speaker 1: of the police sheet. It was a lot of flowers
Speaker 1: in the house and it was that Saturday, so it
Speaker 1: felt like a repass. Yeah, the only difference is your
Speaker 1: daughter is sitting right here, right or whatever. So I
Speaker 1: flew back to Dallas. I'm on the air, moving on
Speaker 1: my daughter's Okay, I never forget I was playing. I
Speaker 1: was talking over the intro fifty cent in the club.
Speaker 1: So don't don't go go all right, you'll rica slide
Speaker 1: in the morning show. You're it's been shot and I
Speaker 1: lost it. I was laid out on the floor in
Speaker 1: the studio. A week and a half later, they had
Speaker 1: to walk me out to my car. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: do the rest of the show, Like it took that
Speaker 1: long for it to hit me that my dog. I
Speaker 1: knew she had got shot, but it didn't hit me
Speaker 1: because I went into I got to get my kids here.
Speaker 1: I got to get her Phari and see, I got
Speaker 1: to get my parents here. We got to get to Houston.
Speaker 1: How did we get up to the room and see
Speaker 1: the door that I just went into action, right, And
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't process. You have it. You didn't
Speaker 1: grieve properly. I didn't grieve properly. Yeah that's how I
Speaker 1: do now. Yeah. That was that was That was crazy,
Speaker 1: and that was scared. But she's a senior now at
Speaker 1: Belle University, and she's scheduled to graduate in May. My
Speaker 1: son is scheduled to graduate in May, also at the
Speaker 1: Alabama State University, which always beat Savannah State. No, they don't.
Speaker 1: Always don't do that, always don't do That's I know,
Speaker 1: y'a wouldn't be the one I was there. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to happened now, but all I know in
Speaker 1: the whole team, did y'all be Alabama State? Every we
Speaker 1: didn't play played Alabama A and L. We played like,
Speaker 1: did y'all beat them? No? We didn't, Okay, go on,
Speaker 1: go on, next question that that we didn't be Jenn,
Speaker 1: you couldn't catch the ball and throw the ball and
Speaker 1: dolay defense. I didn't, Okay. I was the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I was hell too. I'm looking at it. You raise
Speaker 1: your kids, but you raise your nieces, your nephews. You
Speaker 1: raised almost fifteen kids, played for them to go to football,
Speaker 1: go to a college. Kids playing football and basketball, something
Speaker 1: that you couldn't do. Why did you do? Why are
Speaker 1: you doing this? The college? Shannon? I knew whether it
Speaker 1: was like to grow up without a father. Huh. Most
Speaker 1: of them didn't have a father, right, I had no choice, right,
Speaker 1: I did when I had to do. Some of 'em
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and some of 'em didn't. Some of 'em
Speaker 1: I talked to, and some of 'em I don't. Some
Speaker 1: of 'em I haven't talked to in years. Hold On,
Speaker 1: it'd be like that, even after you've done everything that
Speaker 1: you've done, bru, it'd be like that, the wrong person
Speaker 1: getting on a child here against you or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: just that white people be naturally jealous, right. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what you're jealous of, because I share everything
Speaker 1: that I had with you. But I had a nephew,
Speaker 1: Terrail that played Uh. I had, uh, three college athletes
Speaker 1: come out of my house when I played basketball from
Speaker 1: my house. College nephew Terrell, who was a running back
Speaker 1: coach at wool On High School, play running back for
Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee State University, and then my son Malika Alabama State.
Speaker 1: So I had a college athletes to come out of
Speaker 1: the house and stuff, and uh, you know, and and
Speaker 1: all of the nieces and nephew wasn't biological. Some of them,
Speaker 1: Shannon just didn't have nothing and nowhere to go. And
Speaker 1: I had to help them. And they're off doing good
Speaker 1: and doing big things. Now, nephew that has this doctor degree.
Speaker 1: My nephew Deltrick, got some Greeks in the house. My
Speaker 1: daughter's at Aka, you know, couple of cues in the
Speaker 1: house or whatever, and a capita. So I we got
Speaker 1: degrees on the wall. Education matter. Uh, sent a couple
Speaker 1: of kids at IMG Academy that's where my son went
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I performed, Man, just why I can
Speaker 1: educate and give them an opportunity because I don't need anything, right,
Speaker 1: I'm what are some of the child? Just being a
Speaker 1: single father and then in the process of becoming a
Speaker 1: single father, how rewarding is it when you see the
Speaker 1: manifestation of your work. Uh. The challenging part is especially
Speaker 1: with your with your life. Yeah, well well it wasn't
Speaker 1: really that challenge and being a single father, because I
Speaker 1: had to help you hiring somebody. I had laid it
Speaker 1: from my church. Right, name is Pat. Okay, it's Pat,
Speaker 1: no nonsense, she don't play, she'll knock him out, she'll
Speaker 1: cuss him out or whatever, and she holding in and down.
Speaker 1: It's Pat. And before miss Pat, Miss Bishop would help
Speaker 1: me out with that. So I can easily jump on
Speaker 1: the plane and go out of town and do what
Speaker 1: I need to do. I had I had had a
Speaker 1: support system or whatever. And what was the second question
Speaker 1: that the manifests and the seed that your hard work?
Speaker 1: Paul Shannon uh to lay in the hotel room and
Speaker 1: watch my nephew playing for Nettle Tennessee State University right
Speaker 1: run up and run a touchdown. And I'm sitting in
Speaker 1: the bed and I remember him sitting in my left
Speaker 1: crying because his father got killed. His father was my
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, my friend brother. I remember
Speaker 1: you told me that you raised him. Yeah, man, and
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. Two days before Christmas, he came in
Speaker 1: my room. He had that look in his face and
Speaker 1: he started crying, and he's setting my left man and
Speaker 1: had his head on my shoulder. I said, listen, man,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. I said, I know how you feel. Man.
Speaker 1: My dad died too, and we talked about it. I said,
Speaker 1: but you will smile. I said, you will smile. Now
Speaker 1: he's helping other kids that don't have fathers twenty six
Speaker 1: years or graduated college in high school running back coach.
Speaker 1: But to see them kids on TV, to see my
Speaker 1: son on the big screen at Alabama state and he's
Speaker 1: getting ready to go into law school, right, you know.
Speaker 1: And to see what my daughter's doing in all the
Speaker 1: degrees on the wall, all of the kids that we've helped, Shannon,
Speaker 1: it's been a that's the reward, I don't I just
Speaker 1: want them to do good and I wanted them to
Speaker 1: have a chance or whatever because I had uncles step
Speaker 1: up to the plate, and I know how important that is, right,
Speaker 1: So to have an uncle Ricky or somebody that's gonna
Speaker 1: hold you accountable to step up to the plate and
Speaker 1: be there for you and for you to become something,
Speaker 1: it's everything. Was it important for you to break the
Speaker 1: statement that black men aren't in their kid's life? Absolutely? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are. We absolutely. I went through that and we
Speaker 1: want to be here, damn right, and they ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: I went through that with my oldest son, you know,
Speaker 1: having a hard time seeing him that all work worked
Speaker 1: out or whatever. I've been through the court system. I've
Speaker 1: had judges that wasn't fair. A judge in Alabama said, Uh,
Speaker 1: the reason I don't award men because they are their kids,
Speaker 1: because I've never seen a cow follow his pappy. That
Speaker 1: was quoted by a judge in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 1: Now that the laws are changing, they have father Father's
Speaker 1: Rights movement. Men do hair, I mean my daughter. I
Speaker 1: do them. Little dog dog on U two little ampro puffs.
Speaker 1: I know how to put that part down the middle
Speaker 1: and get that pink old moisturizing rubbing in my daughter head.
Speaker 1: Dropped that part down the middle, put them two little
Speaker 1: things and in them little autfro puss ye on. The
Speaker 1: mistake I made was sending her to school and then
Speaker 1: some pajamas because I thought it was an outfit from
Speaker 1: Limited Too. But I thought it was an outfit, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know that it was a pajama. But she
Speaker 1: thought she was gonna get fuss that, so she didn't
Speaker 1: say anything. And I get a phone call from the
Speaker 1: school and said my daughter was at school crying because
Speaker 1: she didn't want to go to class because she had
Speaker 1: on pajama. I said, it's not jumps, that's a brand
Speaker 1: new outfit. I had just bought it from Limited Too, Right,
Speaker 1: what kind of find out It was pajama but I
Speaker 1: thought it was an outfit, so it was jama outfit.
Speaker 1: It was pajama bed and not class. But but yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, Shannon, it was fun man, Uh being
Speaker 1: an uncle being in the house, screaming up the steps. Hey,
Speaker 1: stop jumping on running up the steps, going up there
Speaker 1: with the belt popping. Everybody oncet and sit down, sit down,
Speaker 1: sit down, nobody crying the lynks. Then hurt, you know,
Speaker 1: go to bed, Go to bed, go to bed, take
Speaker 1: a shower. Haven't you had him? Man? That was fun, right,
Speaker 1: the whole highlight of my life. You know, Dad's gonna
Speaker 1: do nothing but this. Hey, don't maybe come out there.
Speaker 1: That's it. You don't have to say, don't make me
Speaker 1: come up there. You're just hey. Then the stomping stop.
Speaker 1: So I have so I have my grandson there now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you adopted your grandson. Yeah, so I'm I just became
Speaker 1: a first time grandfather. Yeah so let me so, so
Speaker 1: give me, give me some pointers. What what what did
Speaker 1: the grandson call you? Pop? Pop? Pop pop? I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of it. I won't if somebody
Speaker 1: can give me something, help. I like geepop. Now my
Speaker 1: granddaughters something to start trying to train them to start
Speaker 1: saying geepop because they got a little swag, a little swag.
Speaker 1: So popa is still there. P o p Yeah, but
Speaker 1: gee pop right. You know what I'm saying now. My
Speaker 1: grandson called it pop pop pop pope. But I'm trying
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna be Papa Shake oh Man, pop pop
Speaker 1: Papa Rick, Papa Rick Shannon. I'm for real, you're laughing,
Speaker 1: but I'm dead. But you're gonna be Papa Shame Papa
Speaker 1: brand baby here yet, yes here? Okay? How two weeks? Okay,
Speaker 1: my granddaughter. That was just boring. Congratulations first of all,
Speaker 1: congret broh girl, a boy boy, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Oh, I can sit back,
Speaker 1: I can cross my legs on this one. I already
Speaker 1: have told him. I'm gonna have a kid just like
Speaker 1: just like you were. When I bring him back to you,
Speaker 1: he gonna be just like you were when you came
Speaker 1: to me. No more, nothing less, nothing more, nothing less.
Speaker 1: You think you loved your kid when that boy looking
Speaker 1: you in the eye and smile and you calming his
Speaker 1: hair to the side. I got all the video. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's what I do. I have his hair like mine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: with the old school part. Then I I did that.
Speaker 1: I did that on Facebook. Blew up just in there.
Speaker 1: You know, people get bad at me on favor because
Speaker 1: I talk heavy to him. Let's to make him tough, right,
Speaker 1: so when they go out in the real way, he
Speaker 1: ain't sensitive. Right. I talked to him and our coach
Speaker 1: tone like my granddad taught to me work. Yes, So
Speaker 1: my grandson right now is tough. It's tough as nails,
Speaker 1: because I don't care about the curly hair, right, I
Speaker 1: don't care about the cut, and it's all of them
Speaker 1: cute right until they become fifteen sixty. Can't do nothing
Speaker 1: with him, that's right. That's let you tell my kids.
Speaker 1: I said, if now, if you're gonna stay your side,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna stay like seven to eight, I'll let
Speaker 1: you run them up. Right. But at some point in time,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a teenager, you're gonna be an adult, right,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden that I ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: cute right, right? But but man pushing my grandson teaching
Speaker 1: My grandson just turned six and can swim the length
Speaker 1: of the pool and with no life jacket. My granddaughter
Speaker 1: is jumping in the deep end of the pool now
Speaker 1: and she's only three. Wow, teaching him to swim, shouting
Speaker 1: you out to see him throw a football. At six,
Speaker 1: we get in the living room. You ain't teaching that?
Speaker 1: Who you got to working with him? Me? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know you're Alabama fans, So Bryce, you don't come over?
Speaker 1: No me, Shannon, what about Mac Jones? Dayla hurt? Don't
Speaker 1: don't don't don't. Ask Cavin Ridley called Cavin Ridley. Ask
Speaker 1: Caven Ridley asking. It's say you and I both fifty
Speaker 1: four ms. Only give me some tips on dating. You
Speaker 1: like fifth you like you? Let me see fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty five, you're like forty five to fifty. You're like
Speaker 1: forty to forty five. I'll take like thirty to forty,
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take thirty eight to fifty, thirty eight,
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty slam sexy but genuine, genuine and sincere.
Speaker 1: Now I need sexiness. I have to have it because
Speaker 1: I can't be with you just because you you're a
Speaker 1: good person. You gotta be sexy too. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying you you can't be you know the land
Speaker 1: they tried to come on that who who tried to
Speaker 1: hook They tried to hook you up with? Who with
Speaker 1: what a check? That was on my six hundred pound
Speaker 1: life says, she's a good she has a good hard
Speaker 1: Uh but I wouldn't even do it. Well, you might
Speaker 1: need to donate that, but I'm talking about you trying
Speaker 1: to be with me. I mean, I'm needing more than hard.
Speaker 1: I need, I need, I need sexy. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: your walk off got to be fire. Yeah, you're walked
Speaker 1: by I got to be fired. Yeah, you're walked by
Speaker 1: Aaron got to smell like name the markers. I mean
Speaker 1: you you so you wanted them? Ways you walked by
Speaker 1: every time? Can that keep you out the street? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, what about so okay,
Speaker 1: what about twenty eight to thirty five? Now I can't
Speaker 1: do nothing that twin to come my daughter twenty okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what about thirty five? I'm thirty, thirty to thirty thirty
Speaker 1: to thirty five now not thirty but thirty. I'm two
Speaker 1: or thirty five, And I don't mind. Yea, I have
Speaker 1: a kid, A kid. I ain't never mind that. I
Speaker 1: don't care nothing about that. You know what I'm saying. Actually,
Speaker 1: my first my college girlfriend had a kid, right right,
Speaker 1: Because unless you know what I noticed, ain't nobody want them.
Speaker 1: I saw that girl. I saw man got me to five.
Speaker 1: I won. But here's the thing. I saw Walk. He
Speaker 1: was on campus because we we'll first. You know, we
Speaker 1: went football players. We went to school. We practiced first
Speaker 1: right before they before they the regular students got back.
Speaker 1: We already had a game, right So I saw Walk
Speaker 1: across that camp. But for three weeks straight. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: told my roommate, I said, I'm gonna make that girl
Speaker 1: with my girlfriend. I said, that's gonna be my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: You know back then we just said that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the wife. Yeah, walked by, walked by one day. I said,
Speaker 1: I said, uh, you mind if I walk into your dorm.
Speaker 1: She's like yeah. We started talking, carried on. I saw
Speaker 1: in the hallway. Next day class we started talking. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, you know, get dob moment,
Speaker 1: dob moment. They see me talk to this. Everybody, Hey
Speaker 1: got big. No, everybody tried to talk to that dude.
Speaker 1: I let y'all have three weeks. Every I let y'all
Speaker 1: have a three weeks. Everything start three. It ain't nobody
Speaker 1: Walter until I started talking with her. But that couldn't
Speaker 1: beat my time, Like my greatest I had to laid
Speaker 1: down a blistering time. It was over for you. I
Speaker 1: put out a blistering time. Oh my mama ain't do nothing,
Speaker 1: so she hipped him pole. Oh admitted. But anyway, that's
Speaker 1: out here, So give me some data advice, Uh, dating advice.
Speaker 1: Man shouting for real man, finding somebody that's genuine, sincere
Speaker 1: and kind and fair attention. How you I don't know
Speaker 1: about I don't know about La, but I tell you
Speaker 1: a good dating pool. Uh you want to find a
Speaker 1: man Dallas. I've had the best relationships in Dallas, Texas. Man.
Speaker 1: Not not Houston, Houston if you in your thirties, but man,
Speaker 1: if you're in your forties and fifties, man, Dallas, Texas. Man,
Speaker 1: have some nice, beautiful, genuinely sincere. You got Bishop Jake's
Speaker 1: Church there, you got past the Haynes shirts there. It's
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Bible Belt is Midwest with
Speaker 1: a Southern feel to it. Classy them them little Erica
Speaker 1: Bay dude, h natural outfro be wearing that little African
Speaker 1: awe and sexy gonna make sure you're make sure you.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the chicks that's gonna make sure you straight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cause cause see, I don't need your money. Right. If
Speaker 1: you have a job in a career, that's fine, right,
Speaker 1: But man, if if you can help me organize my
Speaker 1: life with Margie, Marjorie did for Steve, right, that's what
Speaker 1: I want, right, man, man, man, man, listen, when Steve
Speaker 1: got with Marjorie, Man, I see a whole different not
Speaker 1: only in his happiness, his career. Okay, that type and
Speaker 1: then you know March bow leg too. I was walking
Speaker 1: up behind Marjorie in the airport. Man, I'm getting ready.
Speaker 1: While I was walking up on I said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I did. She looked at me. She said, oh, I said,
Speaker 1: I was gonna holler at you. But I ain't know
Speaker 1: it with you, she said. I said, because you know,
Speaker 1: we like brothers. But but that right there with Steven
Speaker 1: has right, that's a blue print of what I would
Speaker 1: like to have, And I'm not I'm like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't need you to wash clothes. I don't need you
Speaker 1: to do I ain't real to mistgate it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: find somebody to do that. I don't find somebody to
Speaker 1: wash the clothes. I'm gonna find somebody to cook. But
Speaker 1: I want you to be stacked like dirty laundy in
Speaker 1: the dorm room. Come on, grow with you to have
Speaker 1: I would like for you to have a degree. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to have two, that's fine too. Shunning.
Speaker 1: But guess what, but don't be in too look shunning.
Speaker 1: Guess what if she don't have a degree. But if
Speaker 1: she got a deal break, if she got the basic
Speaker 1: stuff my grandma that your grandmother and my grandmother has,
Speaker 1: and she just got genuine love and her walk off
Speaker 1: is fire. And she looked good, and some wedge hills
Speaker 1: and some jeans, and she looked, holla, holla, not even
Speaker 1: that a sun dress and better sun dress. She's got
Speaker 1: a sun dress and some wedge kills. And she looked
Speaker 1: and she looks she got and she a basketball cutting
Speaker 1: half back there and you better not and used to
Speaker 1: be a cheerleader what or a major red? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god. If school got married, oh yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then you know they be a little little fat
Speaker 1: as cheney. But you know what, we're right. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: And I tell any woman that I've ever been with,
Speaker 1: I became what I became because all iver to do
Speaker 1: is make sure my family was out of this situation.
Speaker 1: Absolutely to raise my problem. Now, that doesn't mean I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do for you. Not only am I not
Speaker 1: gonna do for you, I will do for you. I
Speaker 1: will treat your family, your mom and dad, as if
Speaker 1: they were my mom and dad. Absolutely. So if you
Speaker 1: tell me, say, hey, Shannon, can we help my mom
Speaker 1: and dad? Why are you asking me? That's a no brainer, right, done, deal, right.
Speaker 1: But I need you to understand that my family, that's
Speaker 1: that's it for me. I'm not now my kids know
Speaker 1: I'm not first option. I'm last resort. So once you
Speaker 1: got I need you to I need your brainstorm. I
Speaker 1: sent you to school or you got a good degree. Hey,
Speaker 1: my youngest daughter is one year away from being a doctor.
Speaker 1: My sons, like I said, yes, my daughters, the human resources.
Speaker 1: I said, y'all figure it out. Now. If you can't
Speaker 1: figure it out, okay, let's let's see what we can do.
Speaker 1: See if dad can help you. Right, But next to me,
Speaker 1: you good, right, your mom and dad good. But don't
Speaker 1: and don't be don't. It's not a competition. What I've
Speaker 1: learned is that the women that I daid felt like
Speaker 1: they were in competition with the kids. And it's no oh, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not having that. Nah. I The biggest turn off
Speaker 1: for me is the half that I've dated a selfish
Speaker 1: woman before. Uh with that dang seem like I find
Speaker 1: that's all I find. Yeah, man, asking about everything is
Speaker 1: about her and her kid. But you never asked me
Speaker 1: how my grandson doing. See, I got a grandson and
Speaker 1: the granddad my grandson lived with me between me and
Speaker 1: miss pat or whatever when I'm out of town. Right,
Speaker 1: how's how's Grayson? How Grayson? That's important to me? Right?
Speaker 1: When you can get my grandson to take my grandson
Speaker 1: and your kid to the jumping gym and have a
Speaker 1: good time, so I can go downstairs and get on
Speaker 1: the couch and take a nap, right, watch First forty
Speaker 1: eight or whatever. Then hey, I spot you on the food.
Speaker 1: I got food ready when you come back, right, either
Speaker 1: on the food or I cooked or something, and we
Speaker 1: just have a food. And I would really need for
Speaker 1: a woman that that would enjoy swimming and athletics stuff, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't nothing like a chick that was
Speaker 1: sit up and watch a game. A basketball fan or
Speaker 1: football yeah whatever, you're a fan up, whatever your team is, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got a whole man cave right down downstairs and
Speaker 1: get down there on the couch and watch but you
Speaker 1: but you can't be talking about why we got to
Speaker 1: watch sports again, because sports pay for all this is
Speaker 1: that in here, right you do realize that that's what
Speaker 1: pay for this, absolutely absolutely, and the thing we're going
Speaker 1: through kind of the same thing. Yeah, man, you know,
Speaker 1: uh at a comedy show, just knowing how to be right, See,
Speaker 1: I know how somebody that used a certain amount of discretion.
Speaker 1: If you walk in the room, Shannon, Yeah, you see
Speaker 1: a chick sitting over there in the corner. I bet
Speaker 1: that's Rickey, smiling away because you automatically, she don't even
Speaker 1: have to be standing next to me because she gives
Speaker 1: you that energy. Right. You know, if you go to
Speaker 1: a church anything, you see that woman over there, the
Speaker 1: man up there appreaching you already know that's a past
Speaker 1: of white. You're looking at him, look at look at
Speaker 1: a past of key and shunny or whatever that kind
Speaker 1: of vibe like like pass the key on unwiped shining.
Speaker 1: You know somebody like her classy se you like me.
Speaker 1: I'm little key, I ain't really flash it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm real discreet. I got but people look at me,
Speaker 1: get me because I don't. I don't flash. I ain't
Speaker 1: got the big jewelry. I ain't got a little. I
Speaker 1: ain't got a twenty twenty twenty seven ride, but I
Speaker 1: got paper. Now, I got paper too, But I drive
Speaker 1: a four and I dried that little cheek that, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good, A little Ruba kun of two thousand and
Speaker 1: I don't have nothing to prove. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: do enohing. I don't have nothing to prove shining real
Speaker 1: I did. I did for fourteen years. I had to
Speaker 1: prove something every year, right, and I need to be
Speaker 1: on this team. And I was kicking, but nah, I
Speaker 1: get that I got. I got a necklace too, but
Speaker 1: it ain't real because if you snatch it, then you
Speaker 1: have it. Why your coach act like that with time
Speaker 1: and talk about he ain't swack. Time said he ain't swag.
Speaker 1: He was. Who is swag? If I eat swag? If
Speaker 1: I ain't swack, right, who's smack? Uh? Edie Rob because
Speaker 1: he's still at Alabama State. I played again any Rob
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, Eddie Jacksonville, So I do Eddy Rob. I
Speaker 1: know we used to work out together. Listen man, Eddie Rob,
Speaker 1: both of my friends. I'm yeah. Eddie Rob helped me
Speaker 1: get my house that I'm in now. I didn't have
Speaker 1: enough money at the closing table. I ain't gonna lie here.
Speaker 1: I know he hate you never. He is such a friend.
Speaker 1: He is a frat brother. He's a friend or whatever.
Speaker 1: He came through from me. Man one time when I
Speaker 1: just didn't have it, you know what, And I love
Speaker 1: I love him for that. It never. It's funny that
Speaker 1: you say that I had one of the first Seal Mercedes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hudor huh. I sold it to him, Eddie Rob. Ask him,
Speaker 1: next time you see it, I sold it to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had that car. I had it for like, I
Speaker 1: had it for like three months. Right. My homeboy knew
Speaker 1: Eddie Rob. And he said, Eddie said, you want to
Speaker 1: buy your car? I said, huh, okay, I sold it
Speaker 1: to him. I think I had like eight hundred miles,
Speaker 1: not even have eight hundred miles. Maybe I think I
Speaker 1: about to drove it like five times now. Ed Robert
Speaker 1: good dude. Hell hell, he'd do a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: at at Alabama State University. Man. And uh uh, you
Speaker 1: know he's a wonderful frat brother man. Uh, shout out
Speaker 1: the Gamma seed. Why why ain't playing saying you got
Speaker 1: Omega all over you? Man? Because I will maybe you
Speaker 1: think i'ma let you will me to wear my clothes
Speaker 1: and dropped my car. My brother, go up that brother.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk after the show. You are definitely you
Speaker 1: are de Jalen hurts I was jo Jaylen hurts I was.
Speaker 1: I was in at Me five me Michael Jordan joined
Speaker 1: us the wonderful Fraternity of Omega. Softh I do grad
Speaker 1: chapter in corporate. It don't matter. We just need a
Speaker 1: good man like yourself. Okay, I think about it. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I heard you used to charge people to sit at
Speaker 1: your luck at the table with you at lunch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Alabama State in the South Hall. Yeah, we're gonna charge
Speaker 1: your a quarter or something to sit there because that
Speaker 1: was a whole comedy show. Weren't getting up The jokes
Speaker 1: are free? Yeah? Yeah, so you literally did they know
Speaker 1: you're working on your material, but there huking on it.
Speaker 1: Then my college roommate Bend was hilarious. Man. Uh he's
Speaker 1: from Andalusia, Alabama. Bend was country is a brown first
Speaker 1: of all Alabama ain't no, ain't no city parts of Alabama.
Speaker 1: Think about it. It's the only state, it's the only state.
Speaker 1: They call you Obama, and it's a it's a slight.
Speaker 1: Oh come on, nobody call you Obama. What they mean
Speaker 1: Now that's disrespect. If it's on the East coast. When
Speaker 1: the East Coast said it's somebody country, then they just country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't call them Obama. Yeah, don't group us up
Speaker 1: with the country because it's some country. Parts of DC
Speaker 1: through and not like okay, but where the city parts
Speaker 1: of Alabama, Birmingham, Mobile, Huntsville is the biggest city and
Speaker 1: state of Alabama. Now you got the this man said
Speaker 1: Mobile and Birmingham. Right, everybody comes to Alabama. Know, they
Speaker 1: come to play football. No, Birmingham has one of the largest,
Speaker 1: the second. Aren't the Civil Rights Museum? Yes, and they
Speaker 1: come to visit the Civil Rights Museum country. Yes, come
Speaker 1: for the food, they come for the hospitality. They come
Speaker 1: for peace and quiet that you ain't gonna get in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Now before the two people in that bad don't damn
Speaker 1: outter I guess, but we're trying to We're not stuck
Speaker 1: in traffic trying to get home. You can get home
Speaker 1: in five minutes. Yeah, well, you know how you mentioned
Speaker 1: you mentioned to make a side fire you and you
Speaker 1: you're really proud you stayed the purple to goal. Oh
Speaker 1: you got to purplely goal. Oh yeah, what made you
Speaker 1: decide to place that fraternity? Man? I got really excited
Speaker 1: about the ques when I was going to Alabama State
Speaker 1: when Jesse Jackson was running for president. Uh huh, So
Speaker 1: that was my first I am somebody, damn somebody river man.
Speaker 1: When Jesse Jackson said, just because you're from the project,
Speaker 1: that don't mean that the Project have to be in you,
Speaker 1: and that stuck with me my head. A tear came
Speaker 1: and I heard him speak at Chappa because I actually
Speaker 1: went to Tuskeg in my freshman year. Okay, couldn't afford
Speaker 1: to stay there. You know what I'm saying Tuskege is
Speaker 1: for kids is if your mom and dad still together,
Speaker 1: you had them thing we should go down and play with.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Alabama State had, but I know
Speaker 1: what you had because you leave Alabama State and you
Speaker 1: make that little dry down eighty five to go to
Speaker 1: go to Skigie and they didn't have a They had
Speaker 1: just built the McDonald's when I was there, So it
Speaker 1: was McDonald's a movie theater, and and the chicken coop
Speaker 1: next to the Chicken coop was right next to Lina
Speaker 1: Richie's dad's house. You know that, No, you know that
Speaker 1: so uh? But but you know some great people come
Speaker 1: out of Tuskegee. Yeah uh. Lina Richie is an alpha
Speaker 1: Tom joined the players Q Yeah, and as Skeig is
Speaker 1: so uh, Skigie is rich uh like he should. But
Speaker 1: I just couldn't afford to attend school that comes way
Speaker 1: too expensive. So what what made you decide? Because I
Speaker 1: hear a lot of people, you know, the brotherhood man,
Speaker 1: the manhood many manhood man. You grow up without a dad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't have any brothers, okay, and I didn't have
Speaker 1: a dad. I found everything I need then, Maga sci five.
Speaker 1: I have fathers in the Frat. I have unbelievable uncles
Speaker 1: in the frat. I have brothers in the frat. I
Speaker 1: have nephews in the frat, and I have sons in
Speaker 1: the frat. Right, Omega Scipe fire Man has shout out
Speaker 1: to our grand Bostons that's out there in La Ricky Lewis, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's a real good guy. Uh. Shout out to some
Speaker 1: of my friend brothers. Anthony Anderson ye dl hugli uh
Speaker 1: shack uh. George Clinton yeah uh he's a brother now,
Speaker 1: Big time attorney Ben Crump yeah, plays yeah. So it's
Speaker 1: a lot of I would look good at them them
Speaker 1: gold Man come on. Uh. James Cliburne yeah really Yeah.
Speaker 1: You ain't know he was a kid? I did not, so,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, school, Yeah, no, I think did
Speaker 1: he go to University of South Carolina? Did he would
Speaker 1: go to South Carolina State? I think he went to
Speaker 1: South Carolina State? Okay, if I'm not mistaken, but he
Speaker 1: is definitely a member of Omega sci Fire. Every time
Speaker 1: he doing this interview, you see the sci Fire right
Speaker 1: there behind him or whatever. So and the brothers is
Speaker 1: just awesome shinning it would it would definitely change your life.
Speaker 1: Ask Michael Joan said, one of the greatest thing ever
Speaker 1: happened to him was pleasure. Don't make a sci Fire,
Speaker 1: no jumping for the free throw line. What made you
Speaker 1: decide that I'm gonna get out here on this rick?
Speaker 1: What made you decide to like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: learn how to fly a plane? I mean because of
Speaker 1: all the things that you could say. It just curious. Man.
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with airplanes when I was a kid. Now,
Speaker 1: my grandfather would take me to the airport and we
Speaker 1: would sit on the car because it's a road, right,
Speaker 1: it's line up with the runway, right, and we're just
Speaker 1: watching take off and land. Then my uncle Herbert, before
Speaker 1: he passed away, he was he would take me the
Speaker 1: air shows. Right. It would be out there watching the airplanes.
Speaker 1: You know all that. I want to learn how to
Speaker 1: fly a plane. So I saw working at the radio
Speaker 1: station in Birmingham. The guys were calling in and do
Speaker 1: the track, and said, how y'all know where the traffic
Speaker 1: and they said, we're in a plane. I said, he said,
Speaker 1: come out and go with us. They said, we do
Speaker 1: morning traffic and we do eating traffic. Right. So I
Speaker 1: couldn't do it in the morning because I'm doing the
Speaker 1: morning show, right, So I went one evening, but the
Speaker 1: evening drive right. But getting on work, right, you're in
Speaker 1: a helicopter the right now, it was in the plane. Really, Shannon,
Speaker 1: we was in a plane. So he said, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you fly and I'm just gonna do the shot.
Speaker 1: Ask him what. So he was like, okay, here's your rudders.
Speaker 1: That's what you be. I said, okay, I got that part.
Speaker 1: So he was like, uh, you know, here's your throttle.
Speaker 1: I'm like okay, he said, you know, he told me
Speaker 1: exactly whether to do my first time in the plane.
Speaker 1: I took that baby down the runway. I pushed that
Speaker 1: throttle forward and I balanced because you drive the plane
Speaker 1: with your feet, so you're driving. He said, okay, you
Speaker 1: feel the plane get light. I'm like yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: go ahead and pool. So I went in pool. We
Speaker 1: got up in the air, showed me the altitude me.
Speaker 1: It just showed me everything. Man. I was addicted. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can fly a plane. He didn't let
Speaker 1: me land, but take up. I wouldn't let you took off.
Speaker 1: It's that easy. It's easy, Shannon. Think it's easy for
Speaker 1: a pilot. Shannon, listen to me. You're not a pilot.
Speaker 1: I am a comedian, Shannon. I am looking to you
Speaker 1: your television personality. Ye shot on the football field. What
Speaker 1: I do? I can do all things. That's not something.
Speaker 1: All things, Shannon. Listen, if if I get if I'm
Speaker 1: getting on the plane and I see you in the cockpit.
Speaker 1: I'm immediately getting off that plane, Shannon, Shannon. I fly
Speaker 1: really well and I land just not with me, Shannon,
Speaker 1: Come on, Shannon, I was shutting. They took one of
Speaker 1: my Instagram videos down because I was landing the plane.
Speaker 1: I was feeling at the same time. You only fly
Speaker 1: with one hand, right, you don't. You don't mean with
Speaker 1: the with the with the norbles, gripping it tight because
Speaker 1: you're scared. You have to relax and fly okay, Right,
Speaker 1: So I was doing a uh, I was coming in
Speaker 1: the landing for a lot of the airport and they
Speaker 1: said there was a violation, so they took the video down, right,
Speaker 1: But I got plenty flight videos or whatever. But you
Speaker 1: got the I don't have my license hip, but I
Speaker 1: have to fly with a license pilot, right. But I
Speaker 1: am gonna get my license, so so get ready for that.
Speaker 1: But I am a boat captain, and it's and it's everything.
Speaker 1: Some of the stuff. It's the same, right, going across
Speaker 1: the ocean and flying in the air like when you
Speaker 1: got when it's wuffy or whatever, same thing, you know,
Speaker 1: and the sky. But flying is easy because in a
Speaker 1: car you got gas brakes, radio a car, right, here,
Speaker 1: car right here, a car right here, car behind your
Speaker 1: trucks passing by, and the plane is just you and
Speaker 1: on the thing. Even if you can't see, you just
Speaker 1: focus on your instruments. Like I can drive a boat
Speaker 1: in the dark by reading my navigational system and bag
Speaker 1: it in a fifty four boat in a fifty four
Speaker 1: foot sea ray in and bag it in and jump
Speaker 1: off and pull it in and tie it up and
Speaker 1: docket in everything. It's just fun, man, it's lightning, something different.
Speaker 1: It's outside of the box. I swim with sharks. I'm
Speaker 1: like the most interesting man like that. When you out here,
Speaker 1: you out here in the la you swimming amongst them.
Speaker 1: Trust me, Now, I don't swim. I swim with the
Speaker 1: sharks in the Bahamas. Oh no, these sharks out here
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. You walk well, you ain't swimming, you
Speaker 1: just walk in. It's an everything, Yeah, it's an American
Speaker 1: carnage going on, yeah, and everything. Yeah. We shouldn't have
Speaker 1: a conversation about gun violence because it's it's really bad
Speaker 1: and unstable. Talk about it. Go ahead, yeah, man, you know,
Speaker 1: just being a gunshot, then to be in a household
Speaker 1: of five and two of us are gunshot the man.
Speaker 1: I am just really pro protecting yourself, man, because at
Speaker 1: this point you can't do nothing about the guns because
Speaker 1: they won't change the loss. But damn you have one.
Speaker 1: Me and my kids are on right, and we take
Speaker 1: technical training in situational training, right, So the southern thing
Speaker 1: I couldn't have. I mean, growing up in the household,
Speaker 1: we always had guns. Guns were always loaded. There was
Speaker 1: never a situation in which the gun was not loaded.
Speaker 1: If my grandpa said, what good is the unloaded gun?
Speaker 1: If you need are having one and not having it
Speaker 1: on your inner hoster. Yeah, so you just have to
Speaker 1: protect yourself because this is just thirty years ago. Thirty
Speaker 1: years ago, this thing about thirty years Yeah, that's when
Speaker 1: when it got to a point where you can't say
Speaker 1: nothing to nobody's kid. You can't correct nobody, right, what
Speaker 1: do you have now? What do you have now? Look
Speaker 1: at what's going on now, kid, people in their thirties,
Speaker 1: most of them, a lot of the crimes people at
Speaker 1: twenties and thirties. You can't correct or say anything to
Speaker 1: anybody's kids up there, and they go there, correct you, Shannon,
Speaker 1: They're doing everything now. It's unsafe. Now when I perform,
Speaker 1: and I got two uniform police officers with me, and
Speaker 1: I just pay them out of my pocket. I cash
Speaker 1: shop and I pay them under the table or whatever.
Speaker 1: And uh cause I'm scared people getting shot backstage, people
Speaker 1: getting shot running up on stage. Uh you get your money.
Speaker 1: They thank you, got money, thank you got paid for
Speaker 1: a comment to show in cash set up to rob
Speaker 1: up to rob you, and all this kind of stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: it's dangerous, right, It's seriously dangerous. So you have to
Speaker 1: move real careful now, so you think differently now than
Speaker 1: when you first started business. I assume that you are
Speaker 1: fitting to robbing. Shoot me coming out of a grocery store.
Speaker 1: You ought to see me paying the parking lot and
Speaker 1: looking around, I can conrect and every face I saw
Speaker 1: in the grocery store and identify anybody that was in
Speaker 1: the grocery store in every car that's in the parking lot.
Speaker 1: And I know how to get to my car without
Speaker 1: you knowing that I'm going to that particular car. I
Speaker 1: move a certain way right because I'm a gunshot victim,
Speaker 1: and I see what's going on because it's the details,
Speaker 1: the details. A small detail is the difference between light
Speaker 1: and death. You just have to assume that somebody's going
Speaker 1: to do something to you. And people can say all
Speaker 1: they want to. You can't live in fear. The hell
Speaker 1: you better live in fear because look at the time
Speaker 1: we're living in You can't say that now, right, so
Speaker 1: you'll be dead, you know what I'm saying. So we
Speaker 1: just got to figure out how to protect ourselves because
Speaker 1: you can't do nothing about the gun laws, right. We
Speaker 1: just hope and pray that people in the community stop
Speaker 1: killing each other, right or whatever. But until then, you
Speaker 1: have to do what you have to do to protect
Speaker 1: you and your family, right, Because I don't want my
Speaker 1: grandson burying me, have me up in a cask and
Speaker 1: my grandson sitting on the front row crime like I
Speaker 1: did my dad. It's not fair to him. Right for
Speaker 1: some damn twenty three to thirty three year old that
Speaker 1: don't have no didn't have no manners at home training
Speaker 1: and grew up entitled, and feel like it kills somebody
Speaker 1: because then he ain't got nothing. Right. There you go, Ricky,
Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by. I really appreciate it. Thank you
Speaker 1: for having HBC you alarm to another. Yes, all the
Speaker 1: continued success and all the best brother. Thank you man.
Speaker 1: I love you, Man, I appreciate you all my life.
Speaker 1: The grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle backy pricing, Want
Speaker 1: a slice, Got the brother the dice to swad all
Speaker 1: my life. I'll been grinding in all my life, all
Speaker 1: my life. Then grinding all my life sacrifice, hustle backy price,
Speaker 1: Want a slice, Got the brother, dice to swath all
Speaker 1: my life. I've been grinding in all my life.