Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at
Speaker 1: the chim he still at twenty. He said, the twenty
Speaker 1: five per thirty come aboard the yearline. We could see history.
Speaker 1: Fifty forty come a thirty. Michael run, Michael line, Michael run.
Speaker 1: Set stops half a day. The hare you go in
Speaker 1: that shotgun sends. We receivers left. Here's the staff of
Speaker 1: the glitcher has picked up. Brady Unity caught ball Eppens.
Speaker 1: He has the record at the eleven yard line. Mike
Speaker 1: Kevins becomes the first NFL player in lead history to
Speaker 1: record of thousand yards and board this perst seventh season
Speaker 1: to want to throw by Brady. Congratulations Mike Kevins, who
Speaker 1: can forget again? I'm looking against the side already thirty
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Speaker 1: got great second season. If that's it, We're Casey Box
Speaker 1: on the super Bowl champs. They can't stop the clock.
Speaker 1: We call them the Salty Dogs. Welcome into another episode
Speaker 1: of the Salty Dogs Podcast. Yeah, I am Scott Smith
Speaker 1: with a fresh haircut. You have I love hair cut day.
Speaker 1: You do look duller. Yes, job the first week or
Speaker 1: two is so good. Yeah, I'm as you can tell,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of haircuts. Yeah. Yeah, you got a different cell. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: and you are Jeff Ryan and together we are the
Speaker 1: Salty Dogs. We are and we generally talk about books football. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's just just first thing that popped
Speaker 1: in my mind when I saw you was my fresh
Speaker 1: hair Yes, but it doesn't look it doesn't look like
Speaker 1: you you have a fresh haircut, but it doesn't like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what did you just get a haircut?
Speaker 1: It was like just a couple of hours ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I guess it's a compliment to the woman custom hair.
Speaker 1: So in other words, you got haircut on company time.
Speaker 1: That's correct. You know why you did that? Because it
Speaker 1: made sense? No, because it grows on company time. It's
Speaker 1: it's very close to here. Yes, and uh, I've been
Speaker 1: going to the sky sky. You do not owe me
Speaker 1: an explanation. I've been going to the same two sisters
Speaker 1: for thirty years. Now, good for you. Nice. They know.
Speaker 1: I don't even have to tell him whate to do.
Speaker 1: She's just like the usual when we get so I
Speaker 1: used to have that I don't have. I didn't think
Speaker 1: we're gonna start this podcast, but I talk about I know,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm just in one of those you know
Speaker 1: where I did want to start this and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get the football alright, but I want to dive into
Speaker 1: this debate that we started to have. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're a part of it or not. It
Speaker 1: was in right before Todd Bowls's press comforts yesterday and
Speaker 1: we were having this discussion and then Todd came in,
Speaker 1: so we had to stop up in our break room,
Speaker 1: in the main break room in the business part of
Speaker 1: the building, there's a shelf with some items on it
Speaker 1: and they're labeled, and the three items are napkins, plates
Speaker 1: and bolts. Yeah, and the funniest part is how the
Speaker 1: label Bowls. I just noticed two days a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago. The goals are spelled with an E like
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls. And I dragged Mica Hack over there see
Speaker 1: because he didn't seen it yet either, And I said,
Speaker 1: do you think this was done on purpose as a
Speaker 1: joke or that were its just in that person's head
Speaker 1: and they spelled it wrong accidentally? It was done on purpose?
Speaker 1: Are you saying that as a known fact? A known fact?
Speaker 1: I know I actually know who made the label because
Speaker 1: I was there bree in Um purchasing. Oh okay, and
Speaker 1: that on purpose? Yeah, because I looked and I started laughing,
Speaker 1: and she goes, oh you caught it or she was
Speaker 1: covering for herself. Well, either way it works. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna be more lively, Debaby. I'm sorry. No,
Speaker 1: that's good. If you want to know how to run
Speaker 1: the coffee machine up there, I can tell you how
Speaker 1: to do that too, don't bother very fancy. Okay, So
Speaker 1: we're here after the bucks second straight loss to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Perhaps that's why I'm talking about your haircut, right and
Speaker 1: miss old Bowls. Yeah, it wasn't great. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: one thing I'm not. I'm not a person this week saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you'd have told me before the season that we
Speaker 1: were going to come out of this first four games,
Speaker 1: which was the hardest uh section of the schedule and
Speaker 1: was the NFL's hardest by terms of strength of schedule
Speaker 1: in the first four weeks, if you had told me
Speaker 1: had the time we're gonna come out of two and two,
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty happy. I don't know, man, I think
Speaker 1: three and one would have made me happy. And it's
Speaker 1: the Green Bay game that bothers me because I think
Speaker 1: if we just had a couple of our guys, if
Speaker 1: they think, do you think we would have won that
Speaker 1: Green Bay game? If Mike and Chris that one, I
Speaker 1: personally think we would have had a better shot. Add it,
Speaker 1: if Mike was in Mike or Chris was in and
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith. I want to yes, yes, you're correct, but
Speaker 1: I will I will say our offense is entirely different
Speaker 1: with Mike Evans and Chris and Chris Gwin opens up
Speaker 1: so much over the middle of the field, lots of
Speaker 1: chain moving throws. But you know you can't go back
Speaker 1: and go, well, we had this guy because the Packers
Speaker 1: were missing people too. But I give credit. You know,
Speaker 1: when you talk about the Packers, and you know, they
Speaker 1: won their last game, but Aaron Rodgers came out and said,
Speaker 1: we can't sustain this, we can't keep playing like this
Speaker 1: and winning. You know, we found a way to win.
Speaker 1: We won, but yeah, it was it was against a
Speaker 1: not very good team to and so for for um,
Speaker 1: I think you're right. If if you would have said
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the season, looking at the schedule,
Speaker 1: if you could come out too and two, you'd go no, No,
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way. I don't think we should
Speaker 1: have been three and one, as I mean, very nice
Speaker 1: opening performance against Dallas, and I was worried about that
Speaker 1: game going in, but I think that was clear we
Speaker 1: were the better team. And then I think it was
Speaker 1: clear we were the better team in New Orleans, even
Speaker 1: though we've had trouble winning there. Um, and so knowing that,
Speaker 1: I was thought there were a much higher possibility of
Speaker 1: us winning those games. And then um, you you win
Speaker 1: one of green Baby versus kids, see, and I feel okay,
Speaker 1: But two and two doesn't feel that great. Well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel great to me either, because it's two home
Speaker 1: losses and and that is uh that hurts, especially when
Speaker 1: one of our remaining home games isn't even a home game,
Speaker 1: right and and hadn't want a home Well, we haven't
Speaker 1: won at home since last year. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the last playoff game we lost at home. So we're
Speaker 1: on a three since game losing streak at home. So
Speaker 1: it's just that if you if you reverse the order
Speaker 1: of those two games, the Chiefs and the Packers, I
Speaker 1: think we got a much I'm not gonna say we
Speaker 1: would win and maybe the Packers would get some people
Speaker 1: back to but I would feel better about our chances.
Speaker 1: We ran into a Chiefs team that we just did
Speaker 1: not have answers for that night. No, and I I
Speaker 1: thought that we were going to score, that that the
Speaker 1: offense was gonna come alive in this game. And they did.
Speaker 1: And in the passing game, yes, put points on the board.
Speaker 1: I don't care how you do it, you're putting points
Speaker 1: on the board. So I really felt good about that.
Speaker 1: I was disappointed, and I'm sure so is everybody else
Speaker 1: in the play of the defense that it just it
Speaker 1: just didn't seem right. Now. You have to give credit
Speaker 1: where credits due. I mean, Patrick Mahomes did some pretty
Speaker 1: spectacular things and um, you know you kind of put
Speaker 1: yourself in the hole right out of the bat, fumbling
Speaker 1: on the opening kickoff. Quick score. But then it's seven
Speaker 1: to three and I'm thinking, Okay, things are back, are
Speaker 1: going to be back to normal. Um. I still also
Speaker 1: thought that the team could come back. I wasn't totally like,
Speaker 1: oh this is over, this is done. But defensively, there
Speaker 1: were zero answers to it. There were they never found
Speaker 1: answers the whole way. And when you're watching that game
Speaker 1: as it's happening, that's the that's when it feels the worst, obviously,
Speaker 1: and you're like, how come we can't stop anything? What happened?
Speaker 1: But as you tell, as you get a little bit
Speaker 1: further away from the game, um you, or at least
Speaker 1: I do, I start, it starts to sort of even
Speaker 1: out for me. And I started to think, because when
Speaker 1: you're have watching that happen, you're gonna we can't stop anything.
Speaker 1: Our defense is terrible. The rest of the season is
Speaker 1: gonna suck. No, I don't believe it. But then you
Speaker 1: look at the entirety of the first four months, for weeks,
Speaker 1: and the defense was had three very very good games,
Speaker 1: and so was this last game. The uncharacteristic one. Is
Speaker 1: it the start of a bad run or is it?
Speaker 1: Was it the one? Characteristic games? And we have seen
Speaker 1: through the years many times, both good and bad, where
Speaker 1: a performance happens that you think that you think gives
Speaker 1: you your evaluation of the offensive defense, and then the
Speaker 1: very next week it's totally different. So I don't feel
Speaker 1: good to this week or today, and I'm worried a
Speaker 1: little bit about the the defense showing some issues. But
Speaker 1: I also think we're going to find down the road
Speaker 1: that this was very much an uncharacteristic game for them. Yeah, defensively,
Speaker 1: what bothered me not so well was not being able
Speaker 1: to stop the run because that traditionally was what they
Speaker 1: did very very well, and that was not the case.
Speaker 1: What a hundred and eighty four yards or whatever it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: almost two hundred just say almost two hundred year good
Speaker 1: to go. But that being said, um, you know, it's
Speaker 1: week to week. I mean, and I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not feeling like, oh jeez, here we go.
Speaker 1: This is I think week to week. You just you
Speaker 1: just gotta play every week. And this was not their game.
Speaker 1: It was disappointing because it was a Sunday night game,
Speaker 1: and it was all hype and good crowd and all
Speaker 1: of that blah blah blah. But you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: you know, Kansas City Chiefs, we're coming off a game
Speaker 1: they lost did look very good and then so yeah,
Speaker 1: things things switch very quickly quickly. Um. You know, Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence of the Jaguars have been looking really good the
Speaker 1: previous couple of games. This last game, he turned the
Speaker 1: ball over himself five times, an interception in four lost fumbles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not good. I think he's going to go right
Speaker 1: back to looking good. But hey, we won't know for
Speaker 1: a while, but I think we'll eventually look back and
Speaker 1: feel like this week was a bit of a So
Speaker 1: is it a bad day at the office for the defense?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're thinking? Because they're not really banged
Speaker 1: up except for Cheam Hicks and they're on defense. Um,
Speaker 1: but they got it. They got as many sacks this
Speaker 1: game as they did during the Super Bowl, so three. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they weren't really very impactful players and they were late.
Speaker 1: Like Sean Murphy Bunting came in finally got it and
Speaker 1: got a pick, came in and immediately gotta pick, which
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was pretty hyped up about. Um so
Speaker 1: there's there's also depth there, Uh unless my train of
Speaker 1: thought there. But in any case, going back to what
Speaker 1: we're saying before switching over to the more encouraging part
Speaker 1: of that game is it turns out when you get
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Chris Cowan back, you can throw the
Speaker 1: ball up. Made all the difference in the world. The
Speaker 1: catches that might give's made that just I mean, it's electrifying,
Speaker 1: and I mean to the second touchdown in the corner
Speaker 1: the way I mean you're thinking, yeah, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: out of bouts. There's not a prayer on this one
Speaker 1: as it's in the air, and then he not only
Speaker 1: does he catch it, but he gets it keeps his
Speaker 1: feet in, which is amazed. I had a friend who
Speaker 1: works in the NFL who texted me during that game.
Speaker 1: He's like, Mike Evins is so is underrated. He's underrated.
Speaker 1: He's a beast. I saw something that's funny you bring
Speaker 1: that up. I saw something that, uh, people would not
Speaker 1: really know who Mike Evans was if Tom Brady didn't
Speaker 1: come in the spotlight all of a sudden one on
Speaker 1: the Bucks but he's been somebody that we've known for
Speaker 1: a long time. He's always been good, and he's gotten
Speaker 1: better too. He has well, it's hard, specifically specifically to
Speaker 1: get better in some areas. Not only is he better
Speaker 1: on the field, but he's better physically because if you
Speaker 1: go back and look at his rookie year and a
Speaker 1: couple of years, he was a little little I don't
Speaker 1: want to say he wasn't as skeealer. That's how I play, right.
Speaker 1: But you know a lot of players get to the
Speaker 1: league on their raw talent and are good and are
Speaker 1: good enough to be good, but in order to be great,
Speaker 1: they learned from people already in the league, like you know,
Speaker 1: going all the way back to Jerry Rice. Um, if
Speaker 1: you combine your incredible talent with a dedication to you know,
Speaker 1: your body. Tom Brady obviously, Um, you sound like you
Speaker 1: sound like you listened to Tom Brady's podcast yesterday. I
Speaker 1: did not, I did. I did, But he was talking
Speaker 1: about that which I thought was interesting on on prevention
Speaker 1: rather than yeah, the other results. So Mike Evans in
Speaker 1: that game catches two touchdown passes, that increases his career
Speaker 1: told seventy nine, Uh, he already had that record for
Speaker 1: the Bucks obviously seventy eight catching and want he recovered
Speaker 1: a fumble in the end zone. Um. He also in
Speaker 1: that game broke James Wilder's longstanding franchise record for yards
Speaker 1: from scrimmage. You know, James Wilder was a running back who,
Speaker 1: um right, a famous not only ran a lot, but
Speaker 1: I caught a ton of passes, like the year nine
Speaker 1: four when he ran like Fourners seven times ago. He
Speaker 1: was the office, was the whole offense. Uh. He had
Speaker 1: a game against Minnesota that was just electrifying, just electrifying.
Speaker 1: I can't, I want to, and I'm gonna go look
Speaker 1: that up, but I remember, I remember that he became
Speaker 1: the offense. Well, um so, you know, Mike doesn't have
Speaker 1: any rushing art and he actually has ten career rushing yards,
Speaker 1: but he uh, he's done it all through the years,
Speaker 1: more than we rushed against Kansas City for the record,
Speaker 1: the Bucks ran six times for three yards. You yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but did score touched on on the ground. We will hopefully, yes,
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about him, I said. Um So. In addition,
Speaker 1: evans two touchdowns gave him four two career points, which
Speaker 1: is the third most in French history. Yeah, oh, I
Speaker 1: see what you did there trying to make it happen.
Speaker 1: You did if you listening last week, I accidentally created
Speaker 1: a word of portmanteau. You coined a phrase. I was
Speaker 1: actually did it with my fingers because I was typing
Speaker 1: and somehow I have to type franchise history so much
Speaker 1: that somehow this one time I just smashed them together
Speaker 1: and it became French history. And now I think that
Speaker 1: should be the word. How is that spelled? F R
Speaker 1: A N C H I S t O R. So
Speaker 1: you lop off the eyes and just jam the history
Speaker 1: part on their history, French history, actually French. You only
Speaker 1: have to take the E off of the franchise, see,
Speaker 1: and you use the whole word of history. So it's
Speaker 1: a pretty it's a pretty efficient word, so you would
Speaker 1: really know what it means. French history, franch history word
Speaker 1: of the word. We're gonna make this, We're gonna I'm trying. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: Those six carries for three yards meant the Bucks were
Speaker 1: just passing the whole game, which meant UM even when
Speaker 1: they had lengthy drives like um. A drive that led
Speaker 1: to Mike evans first touchdown only took two thirty six
Speaker 1: off the clock. The seventy five yard drive that led
Speaker 1: to his second touchdown only took two of one off
Speaker 1: the clock. So even when the Buccaneers were moving the
Speaker 1: ball and our last touchdown drive only took a minute
Speaker 1: twelve off the clock, and they weren't keeping the defense
Speaker 1: off the field for very long. Right, And the other
Speaker 1: side of the coin is Kansas City methodically moved down
Speaker 1: the field. They had some pretty long drives. I mean
Speaker 1: the first um well the first one was short because
Speaker 1: of the phone. Yeah, but I'm saying, uh, the time
Speaker 1: of possession in the first half was way lopside. Well
Speaker 1: it was way lopside bety in the game the Bucks
Speaker 1: when we ended up with So you see how these
Speaker 1: things snowball and the defense is probably tired. They played
Speaker 1: eighty snaps and some of those guys, some of those
Speaker 1: guys never come off the field, I mean both inside
Speaker 1: linebackers and Anton Winfield. So far, I've played every defensive
Speaker 1: snap and Jamal Dean and Mike Edwards of one, Carlton
Speaker 1: Davis had played them all until he got hurt. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So that's a lot. That's a lot. And so and
Speaker 1: see how it does. It doesn't get easier so long
Speaker 1: and now we've had games like the Green Bay games
Speaker 1: started off the same way and they're able to adjust
Speaker 1: and clam down. But they just were not able to
Speaker 1: figure it out. I think that was kind of the mindset.
Speaker 1: As you watch a Buckaneer game, you kind of go,
Speaker 1: you kind of think, Okay, they give up scores early, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna latch it down. I mean, you know we're
Speaker 1: gonna come back. Yeah, yeah, not concerned, not concerned, And
Speaker 1: it just it just did not happen. You know, playing
Speaker 1: in a a night game also had to benefit. I know,
Speaker 1: we we prefer one o'clock games, and we get not
Speaker 1: not only this week, three in a row, in two
Speaker 1: in a row. Yeah, so um, that gives you an
Speaker 1: addition to it just being a better schedule you had.
Speaker 1: We had the chance to see a little bit of football,
Speaker 1: and depending on how early you got up, you could
Speaker 1: have been watching it for about what twelve straight hours?
Speaker 1: I did. I watched the I actually watched the whole
Speaker 1: Um Saints Um Saints Minnesota game. Well, if you didn't
Speaker 1: see the whole thing, if you just saw the five,
Speaker 1: plenty of entertainment. Yeah, Well if you saw the last
Speaker 1: five minutes, you're solid. But now I watched the whole game.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was interesting, um, not to
Speaker 1: be in our you know, get up on Sunday and
Speaker 1: we go on game day. I gotta get ready, get
Speaker 1: to the stadium. I mean, I had plenty of time
Speaker 1: because we were that eight twenty games. So, um, I
Speaker 1: really what I kind of enjoyed watching a whole game.
Speaker 1: And I was rooting for the Vikings, and you and
Speaker 1: I had that discussion of who should win. I brought
Speaker 1: it up and you quickly dismissed. Yes. But then as
Speaker 1: I was watching the game, I started thinking, could Scott
Speaker 1: be right about this? I could be right logically, but
Speaker 1: I I agree with you. It's just it was just impossible. Well,
Speaker 1: I was going to finish my sentence. No, Scott, Well,
Speaker 1: I realized, and I figured would be the case as
Speaker 1: I'm watching the game, like, there is no way I
Speaker 1: can root for the Saints. Yeah, no, No, it would
Speaker 1: have to be something like the Saints are two and fourteen,
Speaker 1: and there we need them to knock off the Vikings
Speaker 1: because we're fighting for the last ye that will have.
Speaker 1: It'll have to be a situation like that. But what
Speaker 1: that game did um to me was emphasized the importance
Speaker 1: of special teams. Oh at the end of that game.
Speaker 1: Towards the end of that game, the Vikings score touched
Speaker 1: on go up three, and then they missed the extra point,
Speaker 1: not blocked or anything to kick or just flat out
Speaker 1: and missed extra point. So now they're only up by three.
Speaker 1: They don't have a New Orleans doesn't have a ton
Speaker 1: of time, but enough and they get around, you know,
Speaker 1: not far past midfield, and they're facing a fourth down,
Speaker 1: and they decide to kick a sixty yard field goal
Speaker 1: rather than go for fourth down. And the interesting part
Speaker 1: about that is that in in he was before the
Speaker 1: game started, he was on that side of the field
Speaker 1: practicing kicking field goals from that in London, from that distance,
Speaker 1: and he was making them. He was making sixty so
Speaker 1: unlike the Denver kicker in Week one. I guess it
Speaker 1: was when he told Nathaniel Hackett that he could the
Speaker 1: outside of his range with sixty four and then so
Speaker 1: Hackett went for the sixty four yard or at the
Speaker 1: end of the game and he missed this. Kickers and
Speaker 1: will Uts had reason to believe that he could make
Speaker 1: that sixty and he came through, and so now we
Speaker 1: have a tie game. So right there the important of
Speaker 1: special teams glaring air. Then the Vikings go down and
Speaker 1: get a field goal, and there's not a whole lot
Speaker 1: of time left now for the Saints. But they managed
Speaker 1: to get back to almost the exact same spot. They
Speaker 1: let will let's try a sixty one yard They got
Speaker 1: exact same spot plus almost. I had the word almost
Speaker 1: in there, and he hits that yet another double doink
Speaker 1: where it goes off of the one side post and
Speaker 1: lands on top of the crossbar, bounces up in the
Speaker 1: air and everybody's like, which side is it gonna fall on?
Speaker 1: And it goes just in front. No good. I mean
Speaker 1: to the point that it probably depended on how the
Speaker 1: ball was tilted when it hit that, because it's like
Speaker 1: right in the middle, so if it had been you
Speaker 1: can't see hands, but if it had been tilted like this,
Speaker 1: it would have bounced that way. Is a double doink? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I said it's the second double doin. This
Speaker 1: one didn't lose a playoff game though, when it was
Speaker 1: the best part about that, as you described, it was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. But what I love crowd reaction, not only
Speaker 1: the crowd reaction, player reaction. How they were like it's
Speaker 1: like yeah, and then you and then you watch the
Speaker 1: vikings like oh no, it's going to Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I always love reaction shots. That was a good one
Speaker 1: because it was not immediately clear if it had gone
Speaker 1: through or not no, or if it was going to
Speaker 1: go through after the pounds. The fact that they're going
Speaker 1: for that is is pretty amazing. I mean sixty yards.
Speaker 1: I mean, well he'd already made it from sixty a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes earlier, and this isn't and you know what,
Speaker 1: they had a chance to move it and he and
Speaker 1: they weren't able to advance the ball. I mean at
Speaker 1: that point they at that time, they could have moved,
Speaker 1: They could have advanced, advanced, they could have picked up
Speaker 1: that yard on the last play, but they didn't. They
Speaker 1: got stuffed. So that's it's not like it was um boom,
Speaker 1: there it is, you know, one go for it. Well
Speaker 1: glad he would have, but you know, in all fairness
Speaker 1: for the call, I thought it was great because when
Speaker 1: he did kick the sixty yard or he made he
Speaker 1: made it looked like he could go at he'st sixty.
Speaker 1: This one that he missed had plenty of distance. It
Speaker 1: was about six ft up the side post, so he
Speaker 1: just it was it was just if it had been
Speaker 1: maybe a yard closer the um the way it was fading,
Speaker 1: it still would have slipped through. Yeah, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's a long. That's a that's a hard. God. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, it's like, what time is It
Speaker 1: was about twelve it was about noon at this point.
Speaker 1: Oh here, because the game started, like you mean, when
Speaker 1: he was kicking them getting so no, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's twelve thirty. Most of the games haven't even started yet.
Speaker 1: And if he makes his field goal the sixty one yard,
Speaker 1: we're already gonna have decided the special teams players to
Speaker 1: six yard within a couple of minutes of each other,
Speaker 1: and what could have been a win for the Saints
Speaker 1: if they want in overtime, but they're one in three.
Speaker 1: I have a piece of equipment that I would like
Speaker 1: to see outlawed from the NFL. It was in this
Speaker 1: game too. Players have gotta stop wearing yellow gloves, gotta
Speaker 1: stop you keep seeing flags flying through the air. And
Speaker 1: there was a couple of Minnesota Vikings who were young
Speaker 1: yellow gloves because I guess it's swagging and it goes
Speaker 1: with purple or something. But uh, I hated it. I
Speaker 1: would think you wouldn't want to wear the yellow gloves
Speaker 1: because you could get caught holding more because you see
Speaker 1: you don't want to right, Why are you drawing attention
Speaker 1: to your hands? Yeah, now I get the yellow shoes
Speaker 1: or the golden shoes. I don't like the golden spine
Speaker 1: because it looks through the yellow shoes. Also, sometimes you
Speaker 1: think that's because we're trained. When we see yellow, we
Speaker 1: think penalty. That's that's what I'm saying. So continuing on
Speaker 1: with our day of leisure. Um, and after those games,
Speaker 1: we didn't got to see Baltimore against Buffalo, which was
Speaker 1: a fantastic game, which was really irritating to me because
Speaker 1: Baltimore was up like three at the half and but
Speaker 1: then they didn't. They had an opportunity to score before
Speaker 1: the end of the half and they didn't, and I thought,
Speaker 1: that's gonna bite you in the butt, and it did.
Speaker 1: But that was a good game. It was a very
Speaker 1: entertaining game. And um, I have to tell you we're
Speaker 1: playing the Ravens in week eight. That's why I watched
Speaker 1: that and I am scared of Lamar jack I mean,
Speaker 1: even Patrick Mahomes is a good runner, and he was
Speaker 1: hurting us by escaping and either picking up yards or
Speaker 1: that crazy play where he kind of spun around and
Speaker 1: but he's no, he's not, and nobody else is in
Speaker 1: the same league as Lamar Jackson is just a pure runner.
Speaker 1: I am scared of that. I I mean, Buffalo held
Speaker 1: him do what something. They didn't go wild, but Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is just on a different level when he takes
Speaker 1: off with the ball. While you talk about you watched
Speaker 1: that game because the Bucks play Baltimore. Last night, I
Speaker 1: watched the ra Ms forty Niners game because we play
Speaker 1: both those teams, and holy smoke, defense, whoa whoa. I
Speaker 1: I did not realize that their defense was that good,
Speaker 1: and watching that game, I was like whole I had been.
Speaker 1: I had been reading and hearing on podcasts that they
Speaker 1: had one of, if not the best defensive league, but
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it. An act, well, they were West
Speaker 1: Coast teams. We really don't, you know, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of like yeah, yeah, I was, we're playing them, so
Speaker 1: you jumped away from I wasn't done with the Ravens game.
Speaker 1: So did you see the end of that game. I
Speaker 1: did not because I was actually at the stadium. So
Speaker 1: it's tied, and there's like a little under two minutes
Speaker 1: to go, and Baltimore or Buffalo has driven all the
Speaker 1: way down to like the eighteen yard line. I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look good for Baltimore, which I think had
Speaker 1: one or no time outs left, and so it's clearly
Speaker 1: a situation they're running back. I think Devin Singletary gets
Speaker 1: the ball, he breaks it all the way down to
Speaker 1: like the three yard line, and it's clearly this situation
Speaker 1: where they need to let him score because because so
Speaker 1: they get the ball down to the three, they want
Speaker 1: they want run one Josh Allen sneak and then they
Speaker 1: just kneels two more times and are able to kick
Speaker 1: the field goal with virtually no time left. And that
Speaker 1: was clear. The announcements were even talking about it at
Speaker 1: the time to go ahead and let him score. They
Speaker 1: needed to let him score. And in fact, there were
Speaker 1: some I mean most people listening probably saw this. You
Speaker 1: said you didn't see the end of it. There was
Speaker 1: some fighting between a couple of the Ravens defenders. Um
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is kind of your more curial guy. Anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: I was yelling at something on the sideline. I think
Speaker 1: they were mad at uh oh dafe Oh. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm pronouncing that right. In the draft he
Speaker 1: was Jason Owa, but in any case, he I think
Speaker 1: he was the one that made the stop. And and
Speaker 1: so the point is, not everybody on the field knew
Speaker 1: the situation, and some thought some were trying to let
Speaker 1: him score, but not everybody was in on it. And
Speaker 1: in my point being and and Baltimore is a very
Speaker 1: well run and well coached team. So I'm not casting
Speaker 1: any stones here. I'm just saying I would think at
Speaker 1: this point most deivil teams would be better at this.
Speaker 1: They would be better at recognizing the situation in time
Speaker 1: to get everybody on the scene. But it goes against
Speaker 1: all your grain against There's been enough of these through
Speaker 1: the years that you you know that they're gonna be
Speaker 1: situations where it's better to let him score. You know,
Speaker 1: they would have had a like a minute thirty to
Speaker 1: let um Lamar Jackson try to lead a game tying drive.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have that than can we block a twenty
Speaker 1: eight yard field goal. Right. The first time I saw
Speaker 1: you have to let him score was in a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It was Green Bay against Denver Broncos in San Diego.
Speaker 1: Did what they did, They let him score. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: there was no other way to Greenbay. They Green May
Speaker 1: lost that game, Dever won it. But that was the
Speaker 1: only way green That was one of the two elway. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That but but that was the first time I ever
Speaker 1: saw a team say, okay, well that's not true. I do.
Speaker 1: I do remember long and long ago where the Buccaneers, uh,
Speaker 1: let a Jet score and then so they could get
Speaker 1: a record they could get they get Wilder and the game.
Speaker 1: It was what I was talking about it. They wanted
Speaker 1: to get him the record for yards from scrimmage. So
Speaker 1: so I take that back. It's a second time with
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And we've told this story before, but
Speaker 1: in case nobody else has heard it, the Buccaneers were
Speaker 1: doing everything they could to get James wild this record,
Speaker 1: including adding them score so they could get the ball back.
Speaker 1: And it didn't work at the time because the Jets
Speaker 1: defense was fired up and like, Wilder got three more
Speaker 1: carries and lost yards on all of them. But they
Speaker 1: were so mad that when the Bucks played them the
Speaker 1: next year, they ran up the score, still the most points.
Speaker 1: The Buccaneers were never allowed any talk about payback. By
Speaker 1: that point though, the man who had been calling making
Speaker 1: these decisions, John McKay, had retired, so they really didn't
Speaker 1: get any okay, but it made him feel better and
Speaker 1: it makes for a great story. Well, uh so, anyway,
Speaker 1: so you figured that at that point in time, you
Speaker 1: need to realize to hey, if you want a shot
Speaker 1: at this, let him score. You have enough time on
Speaker 1: the clock to march down, score the touchdown, and win.
Speaker 1: That was the thing, that it's a much better chance
Speaker 1: than you're gonna block a twenty four yard field goal
Speaker 1: with ten seconds left, three seconds or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder what the fodder was after the
Speaker 1: game on that. What do you know? All I have
Speaker 1: not seen. I haven't seen anything on that. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen how hardball addressed it. I've just every analyst I've
Speaker 1: seen has agreed that they made a mistake there. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're right. Oh you know, I did see
Speaker 1: something on that, but I didn't read the story because
Speaker 1: I was in a hurry and it was just kind
Speaker 1: of like the thought process. Let me see if I
Speaker 1: can figure that where so so after getting to watch
Speaker 1: all that football, then we go to the State and
Speaker 1: we have our game, and um, you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: much fun right from the beginning. Rashod White, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: fumbled on the opening kickoff, and but he I will
Speaker 1: save Rashod White did a nice job. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: that fumble didn't change the coach's minds because they clearly
Speaker 1: as they said they were going to last week. As
Speaker 1: Todd Bull said, we have to get He was talking
Speaker 1: about both guys him and Keyshawn vamb but it was
Speaker 1: obviously primarily shot White. We have to get him more involved.
Speaker 1: And he was true to to his word on that
Speaker 1: one and to the point where they were several times.
Speaker 1: I think it was early in the second half for
Speaker 1: Rashad had several drives dedicated to him. Leonard Fournette played
Speaker 1: his He had been playing five pc the snaps to
Speaker 1: the first three games. He only only played like sixty
Speaker 1: one in this game, and Rashad White got it's like
Speaker 1: for snaps or something, which was as biggest number so far.
Speaker 1: He looked really good in the passing game, as we expected.
Speaker 1: He ran in a touchdown, and uh, it ended up
Speaker 1: being a nice offensive outing for him and in a
Speaker 1: performance that may just think, Okay, they need to keep
Speaker 1: doing this, that we have to figure out the running
Speaker 1: game obviously, but White and Forne combined for twelve catches
Speaker 1: for a hundred and seven yards on twelve targets, so
Speaker 1: it was working. And for Net did most of that.
Speaker 1: Those are almost exclusively screens, so almost all those yards
Speaker 1: were well designed greens that he executed well because his
Speaker 1: average depth of target was actually negative one point, meaning
Speaker 1: he was catching the ball behind the last scrimmage and
Speaker 1: he ended up with fifty yards. Would you have thought
Speaker 1: if if before they came it, would you have thought
Speaker 1: before the game started that if the Buccaneers scored thirty
Speaker 1: one points they would win that game. Most most games,
Speaker 1: I would say yes, But when you're playing the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: I don't think you can make that assumption. That's fair,
Speaker 1: it's a fair assessment. Um, they certainly did have a
Speaker 1: revenge factor, you know. I mean they did lose in
Speaker 1: that stadium for the Super Bowl, so it could be
Speaker 1: one of those things kind of like with the Saints.
Speaker 1: You know. As as my counterpart for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: We decided we were going to see each other in Arizona,
Speaker 1: which means a Super Bowl matchup. I'll take it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when I was thinking. But the Buccaneers, you know,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was only sacked once, but it was a
Speaker 1: pretty it's a hard one. So the Buccaneers had not
Speaker 1: stopped a third down through much of the first half.
Speaker 1: They didn't they Kansas City didn't punt until the fourth course,
Speaker 1: there was like two many game they had not They
Speaker 1: had their first five third downs they converted. Um. Partially,
Speaker 1: that's because of their seventeen third downs. I think ten
Speaker 1: of them needed three or a fewer yards, so they
Speaker 1: were doing really good. Second that's the best formula for
Speaker 1: converting third down. But when they did have a third
Speaker 1: and eight or something, or even one that was like
Speaker 1: third and fifteen, um, uh, my homes just found Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey wherever he was. But yes, what I'm saying is, um,
Speaker 1: they finally the Bucks finally got to stop. They stopped
Speaker 1: the running back on third and one, and then the
Speaker 1: Chiefs went from on fourth and one, had a totally
Speaker 1: successful play that would have worked for a lot of yards,
Speaker 1: and the guy just dropped it. So We're a little
Speaker 1: lucky there. We got very lucky, little lucky there, but
Speaker 1: at least we got the ball back very next play,
Speaker 1: strip sack. It was the only stack of the game,
Speaker 1: but strip sack turnover they were back in the ends
Speaker 1: of so that kind of that kind of balanced that
Speaker 1: if he would have caught that ball, that was a touchdown.
Speaker 1: There was no que Well, it was definitely a big game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he had a wide open spaces and since
Speaker 1: we hadn't stopped him to that point, it would have
Speaker 1: been a touch on at some point. But you gotta
Speaker 1: take advantage of of your brakes, and in that particular instance,
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers did not. But what I'm getting at is
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers have lost four fumbles in the last two games.
Speaker 1: They lost seven fumbles all of last year. I mean,
Speaker 1: so that's got a stop off because Tom Brady threw
Speaker 1: a pick in Game one and hasn't thrown one since.
Speaker 1: Now you put it out there, well, I mean you
Speaker 1: gotta talk about I didn't see you didn't do it
Speaker 1: during the game. He just knock got would you can
Speaker 1: even hear it? It's a little bit okay. Another thing
Speaker 1: from that game and from the beginning of the season. Overall,
Speaker 1: usually you like that. Yes, I did not know the
Speaker 1: visual was the best, the way of putting. I couldn't
Speaker 1: get the reason I have to describe it. We are
Speaker 1: the studio that we're in. It has wooden planks on
Speaker 1: the back. We use it for a lot of TV
Speaker 1: stuff here, and so that's why it was so easy
Speaker 1: for you to knock on. But that was not it
Speaker 1: was not your head. I didn't have enough give here
Speaker 1: in your cloth. But that's just here. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what that is. I noticed so uh so I
Speaker 1: heard the Bucks are in the league right now in
Speaker 1: yards per completion at nine point nine eight. Now, it
Speaker 1: got a little better in that game. There was a
Speaker 1: couple big plays, but it still mostly was not deep plays.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even trying to make a negative point here.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this offense has evolved, and this is
Speaker 1: the fourth straight year or the third straight year that
Speaker 1: that number has dropped. So in nineteen Bruce's arians first
Speaker 1: year here, with James Winston bombing away, it was thirteen
Speaker 1: point four two per completion. I'm not saying per attempt
Speaker 1: and saying comple because that would be a great number purchase.
Speaker 1: In twenty the Super Bowl year, great offense, right, it
Speaker 1: was down to eleven point six five, but there were
Speaker 1: still plenty of deep plays. In twenty one, you're you remember,
Speaker 1: lots of too high safety shells. Time had to throw
Speaker 1: a lot of shorter passes not couldn't get as many
Speaker 1: big plays downfield. It dropped to ten point nine four.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost a whole yard lower this year. And
Speaker 1: that trend that's probably about as low as that trend
Speaker 1: can go, right, you probably need that to get that
Speaker 1: up more. Like you know, eleven at least in the
Speaker 1: offense will be operating like it did last year, but
Speaker 1: there's room for improvement there. And and with the guys
Speaker 1: coming back from injury, I think we're gonna see that
Speaker 1: trend in the right direction. Yeah, I I thought, you know, offensively,
Speaker 1: I thought the team certainly made strides in this game,
Speaker 1: and I realized in the passing and I understand that,
Speaker 1: but sometimes you have to give credit to the defense.
Speaker 1: Is that you're facing. They're not giving you the running game,
Speaker 1: but if you can still if you can beat them
Speaker 1: in the passing game, then well then beat him in
Speaker 1: the past. In a game where you give up where
Speaker 1: you only get three rushing yards. You know, there has
Speaker 1: to be a combination of it wasn't going well and
Speaker 1: the game wasn't going well, so you had to stop
Speaker 1: running the ball right and and you were behind, so
Speaker 1: you knew you were going to pass more. If we
Speaker 1: were way behind, it probably would have been a bad
Speaker 1: rushing outing, but something in terms of fifty to seventy yards.
Speaker 1: If we weren't so behind and had to throw on
Speaker 1: every down, Tom passed fifty two times something two yards
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns and no interceptions. I don't recall they
Speaker 1: have what are called turnover worthy place sometimes guys drop
Speaker 1: an interception. Um, I don't think that that scared you.
Speaker 1: So it was a good performance. It really was by
Speaker 1: the offense, by the passing game, the rushing. The running
Speaker 1: game is obviously trending in the run direction, and you
Speaker 1: do start to wonder, as much as the coaches are
Speaker 1: saying good things about the new young guys playing that
Speaker 1: maybe it is taking a little bit a while for
Speaker 1: that interior line to gel. I mean, you gotta wonder
Speaker 1: when the when the rushing yards keep getting worse every week, right,
Speaker 1: But they had such a good first game of the season.
Speaker 1: The other thing is, well, go ahead everything is the
Speaker 1: run defense, which is the best in the NFL over
Speaker 1: the span of since Todd Bowles arrived two now, and
Speaker 1: it was number one in nineteen, it was number one
Speaker 1: in twenty, it was number one for a good portion
Speaker 1: of twenty one before kind of fading away last year
Speaker 1: and ning up third or fourth. And it started out
Speaker 1: this this season pretty good. But that couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1: It's chiefs and it was it was some ma homes runs,
Speaker 1: which are a different piece, but there was outside zone runs,
Speaker 1: there was inside duo runs. There was didn't seem like
Speaker 1: I could stop anything, and especially on first down, they
Speaker 1: would just get seven yards. And I'm like, so that's
Speaker 1: a problem. And and even Todd Bowles pointed this this out.
Speaker 1: That's a thing to be concerned about this week because
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons there not anything like what they have.
Speaker 1: Who are they haven't arranked better than twenty seven since
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen and running the ball they were terrible
Speaker 1: last year And now all of a sudden there were
Speaker 1: a Russian Juggerni getting hundred sixty eight yards game. Who
Speaker 1: would have thought in Game five it would be a
Speaker 1: battle for first place and and right because everybody kind
Speaker 1: of dismissed the Falcons as they go, um, well, every
Speaker 1: Falcons game so far has been extremely close. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: they kind of been involved in a lot of one
Speaker 1: score games that can go either way at the end.
Speaker 1: The catch of the game for me was our buddy Coke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was hoping he would have made it in,
Speaker 1: you know, would have broke that tackle, had a little
Speaker 1: more room on the outside to score the touchdown so
Speaker 1: he could say his first catch was also a touchdown
Speaker 1: from Tom Bread. That would have been sweets. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's averaging nineteen yards per catching. His career was pretty good.
Speaker 1: They didn't say it was that dynamic of a pass catcher.
Speaker 1: I saw forty one right there. It's like, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But in this last game for the Falcons, they beat
Speaker 1: the Browns. I think, uh, they completed seven passes in
Speaker 1: the whole game. They ran the ball thirty five times
Speaker 1: and sometimes a smart Yoda but he only had one
Speaker 1: carry in this game. Uh, cor Daryl or Cornurell Cordarol
Speaker 1: Patterson got hurt after nine carries. But a rookie named
Speaker 1: Tyson Algier or Tyler I think it's Tyson. It's either
Speaker 1: Tyler or Tyson Alger. And then a guy they called
Speaker 1: up in practice squad named Caleb Huntley combined for like
Speaker 1: hundred fifty yards. So they can run the ball, and
Speaker 1: they are going to run the ball. And Marcus Marriott
Speaker 1: is passing so far this year has not been particularly effective.
Speaker 1: And Kyle Pitts, by the way, do you know who
Speaker 1: that is? That's what's his face? Is son? No, it's
Speaker 1: the tight end for the for the Falcons, who had
Speaker 1: who was drafted fourth overall last year, the highest draft
Speaker 1: pick ever used on the tight end, Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 1: that's the highest pick ever used on the tight end.
Speaker 1: He had a thousand yards season as rookie and and
Speaker 1: so um, there were huge expectations for him coming into
Speaker 1: this year. And they're just not throwing in the ball. Well,
Speaker 1: they don't have to there running the ball. So here's
Speaker 1: here's why I bring this up, Jeff, And you can
Speaker 1: tell me what you're thinking. And it's gonna start off
Speaker 1: in a way you don't like, because I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: off talking about fantasy football. But there's something I'm getting
Speaker 1: to that I want to listen to it. I am
Speaker 1: one of these Kyle Pitts owners who's now I'm one
Speaker 1: of the owners. That's what they call him. Okay, if
Speaker 1: you don't like that word, team, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1: Yet that's what that's. That's fantasy parlor. Okay, Okay, I
Speaker 1: have Kyle Pitts on one of my teams. It's not
Speaker 1: only that, but I had to use a third round
Speaker 1: pick to get him. That's pretty high. So you keep
Speaker 1: when you have a guy like that, you keep playing
Speaker 1: them every week, even if they're not doing anything. I
Speaker 1: know you're being sarcastic in a jerk, and every time
Speaker 1: I bring up fantasy football, you have to do this.
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to get to a point, and that
Speaker 1: is I've been trying to decide whether to bench him,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to bench this guy who's supposed
Speaker 1: to be stud and then he goes off. Well, they're
Speaker 1: playing us this week, So am I jinxing him more?
Speaker 1: If I bench him or if I play him? What
Speaker 1: should I do to help the Scaneers? You're really asking
Speaker 1: me this, does it jinx them? Do it? If I
Speaker 1: bench him and then he goes off? This is what
Speaker 1: I think this is what you do. This is what
Speaker 1: you do. You go you don't worry about how it
Speaker 1: is going to affect the Buccaneers. You go with how
Speaker 1: it's gonna make your team win. Then that way you're
Speaker 1: happy at the end of the day. Either or I'm
Speaker 1: not happy at the end of the day, he will
Speaker 1: be because if you're if he does have a great game,
Speaker 1: your fantasy team did really well. If he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a great great game, your Buccaneers did really well. Winning
Speaker 1: one fantasy week does not make me feel happy on
Speaker 1: a day that the Buccaneers. I'm just trying to help you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help you play. I should have know
Speaker 1: him better to try to ask you for helping something
Speaker 1: involving fantasy. Well, first of all, it's fantasy, so it's
Speaker 1: not real. So I say, go for it. But you're
Speaker 1: not superstitious at all. Huh, You've never been. I'm very superstitious,
Speaker 1: very much. So, like, as long as we're just going
Speaker 1: to say something, but now I'm not going to do
Speaker 1: as long as we're on fantasy football, sure we might
Speaker 1: as will get the rest of it over because I
Speaker 1: thank you. It's like like a rude canal. Let's do
Speaker 1: it all at once. The other thing in my um
Speaker 1: notes here that involved fantasy is after I made my
Speaker 1: Crystal lave a prediction a couple of weeks ago and
Speaker 1: that turned out great. Din you for another It's funny
Speaker 1: you said that because I saw him and I went, dang,
Speaker 1: he is good, and then you said you should make
Speaker 1: another one. Who do you remember? Who? I who? You
Speaker 1: were gonna? Who I said was gonna have a big week. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't like Evans. Oh yes you did. We thought
Speaker 1: we did say that, Yes, and he did two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Come on, how many yards? How many points does that
Speaker 1: give you if you get too touched? Well, he had
Speaker 1: eight catches, so that if most teams most leagues are PPR. Now,
Speaker 1: so that's eight points. The hundred three yards is ten
Speaker 1: point three points, so now we're at eighteen point three.
Speaker 1: And then and each touchdown reception is six points. So good.
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic day because he was probably projected to
Speaker 1: have about fift Okay, somebody at lunch yesterday was talking
Speaker 1: about in their fantasy league they needed two guys to
Speaker 1: do twenty five points each. And someone guy said, wow,
Speaker 1: good luck with that, And I didn't understand that they
Speaker 1: were talking about dozed off. But now but now that,
Speaker 1: But now that you're explaining thirties really huge day for receiver.
Speaker 1: I did. I did tell you you need to So okay,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep doing this. Now, I'll give the
Speaker 1: fancy players out there a little nuggety. We'll play pits.
Speaker 1: Play him. You're telling me to play I'm telling him.
Speaker 1: That's not my fantasy advice though, No, but no, I
Speaker 1: say play him, okay, um, because we know how you
Speaker 1: suck your fantasy. So play four now in one of
Speaker 1: my legs two and two and the others. I could
Speaker 1: wait for you to bring that up. See how I
Speaker 1: set it up for you. I t it up for you.
Speaker 1: Every time ahead, I will point out Houston running Macdamian Pierce.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. At the start of the year,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that got kind of he
Speaker 1: got kind of buzzy right before the start of the year.
Speaker 1: So people drafted them, but they're not necessarily playing them
Speaker 1: because the Houston is messed around giving all the Rex
Speaker 1: Burkhead Marlon mack or whatever. Uh. Well, in this last game,
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce got every single carry for the Texans everyone,
Speaker 1: and it ended up with like a hundred thirty one
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. But the most important thing is
Speaker 1: they're not messing around anymore. This kid's talented. They're giving
Speaker 1: him the ball. The next week they had to play Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: which is a really good run defense. So it's a
Speaker 1: little shaky, but I think it's time to start putting
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce in your lamp. So Damian Pierce is my
Speaker 1: highlighted guy for this week. So I'm two for two
Speaker 1: so far. There's probably some people listening here if they
Speaker 1: if they're Florida, that if some of our fans are
Speaker 1: also Florida fans. He's a former Gator. Oh okay, well
Speaker 1: that changes everything. Yeah, well, I mean people like fans
Speaker 1: love to hear about the Gators. That's why I said
Speaker 1: it changes everything. All right, enough, Fantasy, I'm done. I'm done.
Speaker 1: I'll flip it now because I know you love this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a trivia question at you. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: see if you can get it, all right? Who holds
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers record for most games played by a defensive lineman?
Speaker 1: A defensive lineman? Wow, most games played by a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: M hmm, not any more. Who is it now? It
Speaker 1: was until this past weekend. So if you don't know,
Speaker 1: he's warrant Warrant Sapp, who before today was tied for
Speaker 1: tenth in the Bucks his all time history and games played.
Speaker 1: I I meant games. I meant to say games played.
Speaker 1: Did I say started? I don't know. He'd have to
Speaker 1: go back. Okay, So the tricky question is games played
Speaker 1: as a Buck. He played a hundred forty games as
Speaker 1: a buccaneer. Will Golston has now played a hundred forty one.
Speaker 1: Will Golston has played more games for the Buccaneers by
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman than any other defensive lineman, Leroy Salmon
Speaker 1: whatever in team history. That's an underrated career right there.
Speaker 1: Just you don't last games, and the NFL with that
Speaker 1: being good and consistently get correct and being a nice
Speaker 1: guy too. Yeah, we love him. And he's actually seeing
Speaker 1: a little bit of upticking his playing time now that's
Speaker 1: played that wouldn't be starting because it started around there
Speaker 1: stretches in his career and even now he does, he
Speaker 1: ends up starting about half the games because he generally
Speaker 1: is the one that doesn't start in in a sub
Speaker 1: package like a Nickel package. So if the other team
Speaker 1: starts with three receivers, he often doesn't get the start.
Speaker 1: But with the chem Hicks out, it's it's not Logan
Speaker 1: Hall that's getting more playing time. Logan Hall is playing time.
Speaker 1: And Stay prettily should have known it was a trick.
Speaker 1: Trivia question wasn't really a trick? How's it? What's the trick? Well,
Speaker 1: because you know, you wouldn't have thought that. If you
Speaker 1: would have asked me last week who what? If? I
Speaker 1: would have been right, well, it would have been tied. Well,
Speaker 1: okay two weeks ago if you would ask me so
Speaker 1: the two But the point, my point was, I was
Speaker 1: thinking that you wouldn't necessarily think of Will because it's
Speaker 1: hard to necessary. Unfortunately, I didn't think a Will. And
Speaker 1: that's a discredit. It's because you just it's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's the silent player. He's not a He does
Speaker 1: definitely doesn't He doesn't stand up and say look at me,
Speaker 1: look at me. He just gets the job done. He
Speaker 1: does his work. But I don't think it's a discredit
Speaker 1: to you, because the point being not that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: think of Will. Golston and know he's a good player,
Speaker 1: but just that, oh my gosh, he's already because he's
Speaker 1: been here now for about a decade. But it's it
Speaker 1: doesn't really feel like no. No, So yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I point that out to him.
Speaker 1: I think I pointed out to him earlier in the
Speaker 1: season that he was close. But I make sure he knows.
Speaker 1: He knows that. Yeah, most of the time, they don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't. They'll they'll look at you and go really.
Speaker 1: I've told V a couple of times in the last season, Hey,
Speaker 1: you just passed this guy on the list because but
Speaker 1: they're cut from the same cloth. They go in, they
Speaker 1: do their jobs. They're not they're not running, they're not
Speaker 1: you know, doing actions to say look at me. So
Speaker 1: you know who's doing his job this year? Uh, Devin White? Yeah? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: Special Teams Player of the Week month, So team player
Speaker 1: of the Month last week, which we didn't talk about
Speaker 1: it because the ward came out after we had recorded.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean special teams. That'd be pretty amazing. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's true. No, Defensive Player of the Month, the first
Speaker 1: one of those we've had in a long Okay, So
Speaker 1: now you want special teams. What who's doing? Yes, he is.
Speaker 1: He's making the kicks he's getting. His last six field
Speaker 1: goals have been from these distances and he's made them
Speaker 1: all forty seven, forty seven, forty seven, forty five. And
Speaker 1: that was the question mark, could he make exactly could
Speaker 1: you trust him from the forties to make the majority
Speaker 1: of your mid four. He's made him all he had.
Speaker 1: He had a forty four yarder earlier in the season.
Speaker 1: So he's seven of seven, which is most of his
Speaker 1: field goals. Because he's nine of ten overall, You'll take.
Speaker 1: You'll take every season, but particularly because it had have
Speaker 1: been chip shots. Now, you know, we're talking about special
Speaker 1: teams and I'm just curious, and you know, I want
Speaker 1: to want to check it out. How are we keep
Speaker 1: kicking out of bounds and twice? So my question is
Speaker 1: is it like, are we trying to kick it in
Speaker 1: a certain area? I want to I have an inquiry mind.
Speaker 1: You know I would think that because I don't, I mean,
Speaker 1: he can boom it. I'm guessing in this case that
Speaker 1: he on those two instances, he just was trying to
Speaker 1: comar jakemar the rookie punter who like Bradley Pinion before him, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, he's doing quite well for Atlanta so far.
Speaker 1: Um is also the kickoff guy, and he's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: Five of us chickoffs went into the end zone. The
Speaker 1: one that didn't unfortunately went out of bounds. Um. I
Speaker 1: think he probably just you know, sometimes you swing a
Speaker 1: little too hard. You've probably done it in golf. You
Speaker 1: just you try it a little too hard, ended up
Speaker 1: yanking it a little bit. I doubt it was trying
Speaker 1: to do directional kicks because you don't do that as
Speaker 1: much on kickoffs for that very reason, because you don't
Speaker 1: want to risk it. If you try to cough in
Speaker 1: corner punt and it goes out of bounds, it's just uncharacteristic. Well,
Speaker 1: he's had three though he's at three. I thought I was.
Speaker 1: I think he had two less pass game and then
Speaker 1: he had one against Peopleland, so he only had one
Speaker 1: this pass game. She had a punt that that didn't
Speaker 1: go very far and went out of bounds. Okay, because okay,
Speaker 1: one kickoff and the kickoff, but that out because when
Speaker 1: you get the kickoff, he goes to well, you're often
Speaker 1: trying to angle punts out of bounds. You just want
Speaker 1: to go a lot farther. This one came off the
Speaker 1: side of his foot, I guess, but that is something
Speaker 1: to to. I mean, he's special teams. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about how special teams won again and how special
Speaker 1: teams are very important. You know, we for it. We're
Speaker 1: not well, I guess we are kind of picking on
Speaker 1: special teams before we're bringing it up. But you know
Speaker 1: I brought it up in a good way and just that, yeah,
Speaker 1: in that particular instance, right, but um, you gotta hit
Speaker 1: on all three, so we'll go with that, just so
Speaker 1: just an observation. The other observation observation that I made
Speaker 1: during the um watching all the games since we had
Speaker 1: that opportunity, was, um, a lot of people got hurt. Man. Oh, crazy,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Yeah? I mean look at I mean, the
Speaker 1: the Giants were down to a point where se Kwan
Speaker 1: Barkley was basically playing wildcat quarterback for the last two
Speaker 1: drives of the game. It's pretty crazy, huh, I don't
Speaker 1: you know. I guess everyone's talking about is because you
Speaker 1: don't have preseason games. But I'm not so sure if
Speaker 1: that's it, because most most starters don't play a whole
Speaker 1: lot during the preseason anyway. So I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just I think it's just one of those where, um,
Speaker 1: you know everyone talks about being in football shape or
Speaker 1: or you know you're gonna get banged up during the season.
Speaker 1: You know, as someone said, you're never gonna feel good
Speaker 1: until March, which is basically end of the year plus
Speaker 1: a month um. But there but players are bigger, stronger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that are argument. I'm not saying you're making it,
Speaker 1: but that argument of less preparation and preseason if it's
Speaker 1: all hamstrings or something, maybe, But like that safety for Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Lewis seen, he's pronounced he just broke his leg. I mean,
Speaker 1: playing another preseason game wouldn't stopped that from happening. You know,
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith hyper extended his euble because he got hit
Speaker 1: from the side, landed awkwardly on his hand. And that's
Speaker 1: not it. That doesn't have anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: It's like getting rolled up on You can't really you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't train for that. I would think. I don't
Speaker 1: think the majority of NFL injuries are due to how
Speaker 1: much they prepared, but there have been been a number
Speaker 1: of them. But I guess that's where that's where the
Speaker 1: practice squad is really coming into major play much everybody.
Speaker 1: It's much more an extension of your roster than it
Speaker 1: used to be. It's not and also ran like an
Speaker 1: almost guy. It's like we could use those guys maybe,
Speaker 1: which is also why they gave you six veterans exceptions
Speaker 1: that want to be young players. So you can keep
Speaker 1: a guy like Cole Measley who has one more time
Speaker 1: to be able to be and then if he gets
Speaker 1: if he wants to be brought up the fourth time,
Speaker 1: he has to go on the roster. And if he
Speaker 1: goes on the roster, then you have to cut somebody
Speaker 1: because you already have the fifty three there. How's that's good.
Speaker 1: I kind of rolled through that really quick if someone
Speaker 1: was wondering about that, so you can rewind it. So
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers did call it. They elevated it Colds, which
Speaker 1: means they say on Saturday, they're elevating him. Now they're
Speaker 1: added to the roster, so you have fifty four and
Speaker 1: fifty three and you don't have to cut anybody, and
Speaker 1: then they automatically revert to the practice squad without going
Speaker 1: through waivers afterwards, and you can only do that three
Speaker 1: times in the regular season with a specific player, so
Speaker 1: calls down to his last one. They brought him up
Speaker 1: and in part Brashade Paimin was doubtful. He didn't play,
Speaker 1: and then Mike not Mike, Chris Godin, Russell gag and
Speaker 1: Julio Jones were all questionable. So that's why you bring
Speaker 1: up a seventh or actually an eighth receiver. Rashad goes down.
Speaker 1: The other inactive receiver because everybody was able to play
Speaker 1: was Scottie Miller. Yeah, so I think we see how
Speaker 1: the pecking order has evolved. All right? Um? What also
Speaker 1: Mac Jones of the Patriots got hurt and they're they're
Speaker 1: throwing some guy named Bailey's app Oh yeah, yeah that
Speaker 1: was and they still almost won. Javante Williams really bad
Speaker 1: injury for an exciting and running back for the Broncos.
Speaker 1: That one that was a bummer. Uh So yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, so one more question for you, alright,
Speaker 1: one more I have one more note. First of all, um,
Speaker 1: when they when the Chiefs scored off of the both fumbles,
Speaker 1: those are the first points off turnovers that the Bucks
Speaker 1: that allowed all year. That's a big deal. That is
Speaker 1: a huge fourth game. But it's over now, okay. And
Speaker 1: then my last question for you, um, do you remember
Speaker 1: the song by Seal kiss from a Rose? I compare
Speaker 1: you to a kiss? Okay, so finish this is pretend
Speaker 1: you're on one of those lyrics game shows one. I
Speaker 1: compare you to a kiss from a rose on a grave.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a grave my whole life, or
Speaker 1: however much of my life, that song has existed. Everybody
Speaker 1: have asked, thought the words were on a grave? What
Speaker 1: is it? It's the gray? The gray? Yeah, because okay,
Speaker 1: how do you think when he goes there used to
Speaker 1: be a blank tower alone on the sea. What what's
Speaker 1: the tower? What kind of tower? There used to be
Speaker 1: a gray Okay, it sounds like a grain tower. There
Speaker 1: used to be a grain tower alone on the sea.
Speaker 1: It's there used to be a gray ging tower alone
Speaker 1: on the sea. You're looking it up, aren't you. Every
Speaker 1: single person I've asked, including you, including my wife, has
Speaker 1: always thought that that was kissed from a rose on
Speaker 1: a grave. I was shocked to discover this when I
Speaker 1: looked at the lyrics for something else. I didn't even
Speaker 1: I didn't have any idea I was wrong about that one.
Speaker 1: I was looking up a different part of the lyrics,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what a gray tower? Kiss from a
Speaker 1: rose on the gray. I can understand that you had
Speaker 1: to look it up because you didn't believe me. I
Speaker 1: probably would have do the same thing, and I mentioned
Speaker 1: by a rose on the gray. I would bet you
Speaker 1: people listen to this podcast. Yes, I compare it just
Speaker 1: kiss from a rose on the grave twice and now
Speaker 1: that your roses bloom, A light hits the gloom on
Speaker 1: the gray, not the grave, the gray, the color and
Speaker 1: the outro is the light hits the gloom on the gray. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you believe it? Well, then I think we need
Speaker 1: to change those lyrics because they're not getting what you wrote.
Speaker 1: He needs to rerecord that song because they always used
Speaker 1: to think. I always used to think to myself, um,
Speaker 1: you know a kiss from the rose on the grave.
Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, I kind of get that
Speaker 1: because it's evocative. Yeah, sometimes it's a place where there
Speaker 1: was death, but now there's something beautiful growing. Yes, or
Speaker 1: somebody left rose. You kissed the rose, you put it
Speaker 1: on the grave, or you touched the headstone. I've even
Speaker 1: been kissed a Headstone. I mean, I'm seeing many of that,
Speaker 1: but anyways, Wow, that kind of ruined it for me.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Scott. But you learned something new. Now, May
Speaker 1: I ask this question? What brought that up in your
Speaker 1: daily life? I don't remember, but when it happened, I
Speaker 1: wrote it down. I take notes because there's something all
Speaker 1: the time. No, no, just for this because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that would be an interesting thing to tell. Jeff. See,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to entertain you. You are you are because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why that song would pop
Speaker 1: in Were you driving somewhere? Oh? No, that's a song
Speaker 1: that I heard, and I will have to I will
Speaker 1: have to admit that that's a song when I hear
Speaker 1: It's stuck in my head for days Africa, and I
Speaker 1: only sing like three of the lines over wrong. I've
Speaker 1: been seeing them wrongly. I think I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 1: singing it was wrongly used correctly there? Or should I
Speaker 1: said it? Or should I have said? Okay, you wanted
Speaker 1: to know if you use the word wrongly wrong correctly? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think we're done with this segment, Jeff. It's we've
Speaker 1: already been rambling on for over in an hour. It's
Speaker 1: fun though. All right, very good, We'll be back the
Speaker 1: Salty Dogs. And we're back here on the Salty Dogs Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Scott Smith, I'm still Jeff Ryan, and now we
Speaker 1: have our special guests the week with us running back
Speaker 1: Rashod White. You know Wednesdays are busy for you guys,
Speaker 1: so we really appreciate your time. Thanks for having me out.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Let's start with the game. This
Speaker 1: last game, um, because coach Bowls had said on several
Speaker 1: occasions that we definitely have to get Rashod more involved
Speaker 1: in the offense, and then they did, so you know
Speaker 1: you got you got more snaps, like twenty four snaps
Speaker 1: something like that, so very productive in the Russia. In
Speaker 1: the passing game, scored a touchdown. So were you pleased
Speaker 1: with how that game one other than obviously the outcome.
Speaker 1: I'm a yeah, I'm a I'm a big like gout
Speaker 1: that's big on winning. So I really wasn't please. I
Speaker 1: was frustrated, Like I was angry for one for how
Speaker 1: the game started off for me. Um My mom raised
Speaker 1: me on accountability ability, so I kind of put a
Speaker 1: good amount of the game on me. But I was
Speaker 1: pleased on how I bounced back and um, how like
Speaker 1: the leaders on the team and like Mike and Tom
Speaker 1: and um the coaches like believed in me still and
Speaker 1: um and how I bounced back from it. So I
Speaker 1: was pleased with all that um mentality and handling adversity,
Speaker 1: but I was mad, yeah about the outcome and not winning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't wasn't really gonna feel a need to bring
Speaker 1: that up if you're talking about the phonebell on the
Speaker 1: opening kickoff and uh after that though, fifty something yards
Speaker 1: receiving and and you got your first touchdown? So what
Speaker 1: was that? Can you describe how that touchdown unfolded? Uh?
Speaker 1: So I just remember it was in the huddle and
Speaker 1: I uh TV had called one play at first. UM.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he had took the time I
Speaker 1: or something, but it was in the huddle for a minute,
Speaker 1: and I think maybe somebody got hurt or some him.
Speaker 1: I think it was actually right after c G had
Speaker 1: went down, UM, and uh TV was gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: take it in there himself. But UM that was to
Speaker 1: play originally, but then he would just like scratch it.
Speaker 1: Uh We're gonna run, you know, run the ball, and UM,
Speaker 1: I was just like okay, like you know, but the
Speaker 1: way the play set up, you know, TV can still
Speaker 1: throw it up to Mike, you know, so like you
Speaker 1: never know. But I'm just I'll be thinking, like you know,
Speaker 1: running like I'm still with the ball. So, um, that's
Speaker 1: what it was. So I really like I was still
Speaker 1: gonna the ball. TV turning my way, I said, okay,
Speaker 1: uh's handoff And I mean line did a great job
Speaker 1: of getting off the ball or watching guys down, I've
Speaker 1: seen a little space for me to just do a
Speaker 1: little leap and get in there. Um, and that's what
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, when when you know it's coming your way,
Speaker 1: did did your heart pick up a little bit? Was
Speaker 1: it was a thought process any different for me? Noo. Uh.
Speaker 1: It just was like get in there, get a yard
Speaker 1: or whatever. We was half a yard or whatever. Get
Speaker 1: get the yard and get in there. Um, you're running
Speaker 1: back and you love being a running back from I understand.
Speaker 1: But my question is your brothers, your brothers. Uh did
Speaker 1: your brothers want you to be a defensive player? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: growing up and through high school and things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my brothers played defense. Um, they wasn't offensive guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they were going after you. They wanted you to
Speaker 1: be a dB. Huh. Yeah, they wanted me to be
Speaker 1: a dB. All right, what White, why didn't you go
Speaker 1: their way? Uh? You know, guy was just leading me
Speaker 1: to round. I was just blessed to grow up and
Speaker 1: uh play both sides obviously a lot, but um, I
Speaker 1: had more like um of the athleticism. Um. Then my
Speaker 1: brother is like both ways and be able to catch
Speaker 1: the ball, like you know my brothers, Um. One of
Speaker 1: them was pretty good at catching the ball and things
Speaker 1: like that. He was a really great great safety. The
Speaker 1: other one played corner so he was just big on
Speaker 1: like um, you know, um knocking the ball down and
Speaker 1: things like that. Like he couldn't really catch for he
Speaker 1: couldn't catch for anything. It's brother talk. That's why I
Speaker 1: love this. Yeah, so he really couldn't catch for that,
Speaker 1: but he was great at DV at cornerback and deflecting
Speaker 1: the ball and things like that. But me, I was
Speaker 1: just blessed to be created. Catching the ball and knocking
Speaker 1: it down and things like that are just other things.
Speaker 1: So I thought office was for me. We grew up
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Yes, so were you achieving? Yeah? Growing up?
Speaker 1: Of course, when I was growing up. It was around town.
Speaker 1: Tom Jamaal Charles was there. Yeah, yeah, so it was like,
Speaker 1: yeah huge. So I don't know, I didn't make it
Speaker 1: any extra special to get your first touchdown against the
Speaker 1: hometown team. Uh for me, I mean it was blessed.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm grateful it. I mean I'd rather get
Speaker 1: the dub. Yeah you know, yeah, I would have rather
Speaker 1: got the win for show over that any day. But uh,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was sure blessing. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: a tough draw this week. Being and our guests after
Speaker 1: after a loss, it's always and we go in, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you when we're talking to you. We we totally
Speaker 1: understand that. You know, it's all about the w We
Speaker 1: get that, but right now it's about we're shot. So
Speaker 1: that's why we're talking about you right now, which which
Speaker 1: brings me to and I've noticed this a number of times,
Speaker 1: and it's just I'm curious. You always have your picture
Speaker 1: on your shirt. M what's the story behind that you
Speaker 1: have a sweatshirt on and that you correct, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is okay, So you don't have I don't so a one.
Speaker 1: I want to get one, but be what's the story
Speaker 1: behind it? H I mean for me, it was just
Speaker 1: in college. Opportunity opened up for me last year of
Speaker 1: players in college in I yell and somebody came to
Speaker 1: us about the opportunity of wanted to make shirts and
Speaker 1: apparel for me. Um, like Arizona state type and type
Speaker 1: shirts and things like this, and my face on on
Speaker 1: on hoodies and shirts and and sweaters and stuff, as
Speaker 1: well as a football in my name on it. So
Speaker 1: it's different shirts and things like that. So I was
Speaker 1: just fine with it. I liked it. Um. It took
Speaker 1: me a minute to actually do the deal, but I
Speaker 1: actually liked it and things like that when I kept
Speaker 1: thinking about it. So I just like wearing it. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, it's very cool I gifted. I just like
Speaker 1: wearing it. I just like, you know, they cut the
Speaker 1: ble in my own skin, so it's freaking yeah. No, listen,
Speaker 1: I get that, but I I've noticed that a number
Speaker 1: of times. And so since you had it on, I
Speaker 1: thought I would bring it up. So after a pre
Speaker 1: goold start the season, the run game and then another
Speaker 1: nice game in New Orleans, even if the numbers weren't huge,
Speaker 1: the run game has been a little scuffle a little
Speaker 1: bit lately. And we understand that's a lot of that
Speaker 1: is situational, you know, being behind by several touchdowns you're
Speaker 1: gonna throw. But do you guys feel like there's a
Speaker 1: lot more meat on the bone here for the running
Speaker 1: game that it can really produce quite a bit more
Speaker 1: than this. Oh, yes, of course we do. We feel
Speaker 1: like our line been doing a great job and things
Speaker 1: like that, and we all just been trying to get
Speaker 1: on the same page. Um. You know, you're kind of
Speaker 1: going through you're trying to weather the storms of like
Speaker 1: being healthy and things like that. You know, uh, b
Speaker 1: Walk came in and did a great job when Donnie
Speaker 1: was out and things like that. But you know, we
Speaker 1: didn't had our share of hands and we're trying to
Speaker 1: play the hand we dealt with injuries and things like that.
Speaker 1: But honestly, we're trying to get rolling and um, you know,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to keep building it every day. Eventually
Speaker 1: things like that. It it eventually gets rolling, um, and
Speaker 1: that's just how to kind of how to run the
Speaker 1: game goes. You know, you kind of got to build up.
Speaker 1: We had a great start, like you said, the first
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and uh, sometimes you go into the slump.
Speaker 1: But we got great leaders on the team and great coaches,
Speaker 1: and they're figuring out a way to get us out
Speaker 1: the slump. Have you been able to learn stuff from
Speaker 1: Leonard for that? Oh yes, I've been over to learning
Speaker 1: a good amount of things from him. Um, things like that,
Speaker 1: just how you care yourself, how to carry yourself, be
Speaker 1: a more of a pro and uh do things on
Speaker 1: your own and um, just a lot of big things
Speaker 1: of just be you, you know, things like that rich
Speaker 1: which I really like. I like that you're a big
Speaker 1: team guy. I like that. But you also like individual
Speaker 1: sports and if I'm right, you like bowling. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be playing balling here and there. Yeah, what's your
Speaker 1: highest score? Oh the highest hout? And bowler is like,
Speaker 1: I'm not the best, but I probably said like one seventy. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's an average bowler. That's an average roller. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. Well anytime, well you know mean, if you
Speaker 1: if you bowl a little bit that you know. So
Speaker 1: I was just curious. You get to go off in
Speaker 1: or I go. I try to go here and there. Um,
Speaker 1: I believe the last time I went um I had
Speaker 1: ended up. My daughter birthday was August that's the next
Speaker 1: thing I was gonna see. You have a daughter? How
Speaker 1: old your daughter? One? Uh? Sorry, birthday was August. My
Speaker 1: girl is from Cali, so we had went out to
Speaker 1: Cali to do our birthday, like the Sunday after the
Speaker 1: last preseason game, um that Saturday. So I had went
Speaker 1: bowling out there with like family and friends and my
Speaker 1: brothers and stuff like that. That was pretty cool. Yeah, one, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well of course you did, because you're competitive. It's all
Speaker 1: about the w right how to be. So you're a
Speaker 1: Midwestern guy obviously, and then you went west for college.
Speaker 1: So what do you think of the Bay Area? I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty small. Well, I like this weather like now, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's only like seventy eight today, al right. It
Speaker 1: reminds you of like the West, that California and things
Speaker 1: like that when it comes to weather. So I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool though. I like the scenery. I like
Speaker 1: type of bay um and things like that, being able
Speaker 1: to uh we try to get out when we can,
Speaker 1: me and my family, but just seeing things things like that.
Speaker 1: We like it. When you spend time in Arizona, how
Speaker 1: would you compare the heat there to to Tampa, Other
Speaker 1: than you know, there's no humidity in Arizona. For me,
Speaker 1: I felt, I think Arizona hotter. Uh that's just me
Speaker 1: because um, like you said, there's no um humidity. But
Speaker 1: it's also like you don't get days where you get
Speaker 1: to be able to get a breeze and you're looking
Speaker 1: at the flag and hoping that it's moving. You know,
Speaker 1: you get, you get it get every day. It's the same.
Speaker 1: You get. You get what you get, like you know,
Speaker 1: and I mean if you get like some wind, uh,
Speaker 1: you know it's kind of hot on you, like it's
Speaker 1: like a hot blow dryer, air dryer, so it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's different. I always I always equate Arizona
Speaker 1: weather as you know on Thanksgiving when you're taking a
Speaker 1: peek at the turkey and you pull the oven down
Speaker 1: and eat hit you really doesn't matter if there's no
Speaker 1: humidity when it's well, blowtorches don't have humidity. But you're
Speaker 1: all right, we said, we get a shot here in
Speaker 1: ten minutes. We're men of our words, so we are
Speaker 1: for your time and thanks. We enjoyed getting a chance
Speaker 1: to talk to you and let our fans here a
Speaker 1: little bit. And I do like the fact that it's
Speaker 1: all about the w appreciated. All right, thank thanks very
Speaker 1: much the Salty Doll and hello again. We're back for
Speaker 1: the final segment of this week's Salty Dogs podcast. I
Speaker 1: forgot again to say at the top of the podcast, Oh,
Speaker 1: how to do questions? I need to like tattoo that
Speaker 1: on my arm like memento. I think what I'll do
Speaker 1: is I'm going to put it in the equipment and write, Uh,
Speaker 1: you'll hold a car, You'll have a card. I'll treat
Speaker 1: you like I do with I'll give you cards the
Speaker 1: things I need for you to say when I need.
Speaker 1: If it's good enough for Gene, it's good enough for you.
Speaker 1: Uh So, if you want to send us questions, and
Speaker 1: we've been getting a pleasingly high number of questions this year,
Speaker 1: and I think we're getting to most of them, you
Speaker 1: can email them do Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL
Speaker 1: dot com and Buccaneers is spelled be. You can just
Speaker 1: sing the song bu C C A and E R
Speaker 1: S go Bucks, but don't put the go because it
Speaker 1: won't go. Okay, A first question, all right, he's going
Speaker 1: to clear up something I was going to clear up anyway,
Speaker 1: Remember when I read the foul up question about kneepads.
Speaker 1: And then I hadn't put his name on the sheet,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know who it was, and I just
Speaker 1: started calling knapad guy. Well it was his name is Todd,
Speaker 1: and um he, oh, you had that right because we
Speaker 1: were kidding around about Saturday Night Live Todd. Maybe that
Speaker 1: was then, but he the reason that he had there
Speaker 1: was the second question from him on my sheet. And
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize I had two questions from Todd.
Speaker 1: There was another one that we had already answered, and
Speaker 1: this was the second one. Is so Todd, after being
Speaker 1: called kneepad guy repeatedly, Um, I like kneepad guy better
Speaker 1: than that. I know. Well, he says, okay, let us
Speaker 1: retire my prior moniker kneepads. Dude, I think I said
Speaker 1: napads guy and rebrand just to lead Todd from Tampa.
Speaker 1: What do you think? No, Todd, Todd. There's only one
Speaker 1: Todd from Tampa, and that's Todd Bowls. Right now, we
Speaker 1: decide your nickname, you don't if you get if you
Speaker 1: are an individual and you're deciding your own nickname doesn't count.
Speaker 1: Plus it's Todd from Tampa. There's probably a lot of
Speaker 1: Times from Tampa. Todd from Tampa. I think, what's the question.
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna need to give us a better alternaive
Speaker 1: or we're just gonna keep calling you Betpad's guy. Last
Speaker 1: week you referenced which jersey you would cherish if you
Speaker 1: could just select one. That was the thing I threw
Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, I struggled with it. You did where
Speaker 1: you could You could have any game warn jersey from
Speaker 1: any sport, any game. Um, you didn't do very well
Speaker 1: at all with that great thought experiment. My choice is easy,
Speaker 1: but it's truly choice number two because announcers don't wear
Speaker 1: jerseys calling games. This is really good. So since I
Speaker 1: can't call DIBs on al Michael's sports jacket he was
Speaker 1: wearing calling the miracle on ice in in the United States,
Speaker 1: team of under under underdogs beat the Russian Galias, with
Speaker 1: al Michael's exclaiming the most famous five words in all
Speaker 1: sports history? Do you believe in miracles? Even miracles? I'm
Speaker 1: going to have to go with Mike, I don't remember
Speaker 1: how to pronounce this rusione that's one of the players.
Speaker 1: Go with Micro Russiani's jersey who scored the winning goal.
Speaker 1: Stay salty gents, stay salty cheers, Todd. I like it.
Speaker 1: I got that's a great choice. I saw. Maybe we
Speaker 1: can call a miracle a nice guy. Oh, miracle a
Speaker 1: nice guy. I like that. That's better. That's better than
Speaker 1: napad guy, kneepad guys. Kind of it does have some connotation. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I understand that. Yeah, yeah, okay, miracles, Okay,
Speaker 1: miracle a nice guy. We will change it up. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I saw a question and I thought of
Speaker 1: you immediately, No, well you, and then I thought about here,
Speaker 1: and well he can be involved in this too. Out
Speaker 1: of all the coaches attire that different coaches have worn,
Speaker 1: what would you most coveted couches? Are coaches different coaches?
Speaker 1: They were different things like Bruce arians kangle hat, that
Speaker 1: type of thing, Tom Landry suit. There you go. But
Speaker 1: what what someone picked out, which which I thought was
Speaker 1: a great answer, was bum Phillips hat. Yeah, the cowboy hat? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What about um not? Dang it? What's what's the famous
Speaker 1: um Alabama coach Bear Bryant? Yeah, Bear Bryan did you
Speaker 1: have sort of a herring bone hat? That was pretty
Speaker 1: That was a good looking hat. Yeah, And that was
Speaker 1: before when coaches got two weird different things on the sideline.
Speaker 1: You know, all coaches did not dress in sideline gear
Speaker 1: used to s Yeah, there was one coach in the
Speaker 1: NFL who held out on that longer. And then Jerry
Speaker 1: Glandville was always dressed in black, always left tickets for
Speaker 1: Elvis at the door. Yeah. Yeah, So wasn't he the
Speaker 1: one that came up with no fun link? Yes he was, Well,
Speaker 1: he was the not for long you keep you keep
Speaker 1: making calls like that? Yeah, not for long? Right, that's
Speaker 1: a good one. But but I but I thought was
Speaker 1: kind of interesting because you you like stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: all right. Thought there was no question here, so he
Speaker 1: was just given it. He did a good job, all right,
Speaker 1: Very nice, um, mile girl, A nice guy. You're in alright,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Number two is from a guy we've already
Speaker 1: heard from a couple of times in Germany. Hey, dogs Green,
Speaker 1: he's again from Germany. Did we did we? Uh? Did
Speaker 1: we figure out what part of Germany he's from? I
Speaker 1: think he told us the first Yeah, I think he
Speaker 1: did too, but I don't remember. It just means, all right,
Speaker 1: and maybe if we're in Germany, if we're you know
Speaker 1: in Germany going yeah, to have a beer with him,
Speaker 1: wod probably be a pretty good beer. So this is
Speaker 1: a good way, actually, Jeff, this is a good strategy
Speaker 1: in your part to get us more emails. We forget
Speaker 1: something and then I can't think of it, and then
Speaker 1: that person writes in again to tell oh, I like it, right,
Speaker 1: that's what Todd. That's what Todd did. So this is
Speaker 1: stefun right. First of all, I hope everybody of the
Speaker 1: Bucks nation is safe and well, obviously he's referring to
Speaker 1: the destruction of hurricane which we didn't really touch on,
Speaker 1: and and we were really just tried. We recorded before
Speaker 1: before then last Tuesday we recorded right, and we were
Speaker 1: we very luckily spared. Um, it's a tough it's really
Speaker 1: question because obviously we did not want our area to
Speaker 1: get hit by a hurricane, but the fact that it
Speaker 1: changed course and hit means it devastated some other communities
Speaker 1: and we certainly don't we don't want our safety yet
Speaker 1: and that expense of their peril, and it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of I guess they call it survivor guilt. Where you
Speaker 1: you you somewhat go, oh, yeah, it didn't hit us,
Speaker 1: and then you stop and go, holy smokes that you
Speaker 1: see Fort Myers and Naples and need to spring Santa
Speaker 1: Belle Island, you know Cape coral Um just just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it didn't hit here, but oh my gosh, look what
Speaker 1: happened there. So we've we've vacationed on Santa Blisland many
Speaker 1: times with groups of families and um, it was tough
Speaker 1: kept hearing getting reports of because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: very landmark like restaurants and buildings and stores down there
Speaker 1: that you know because they've been there forever. And then
Speaker 1: you send me texture with a picture or something. This
Speaker 1: is where this us used to be, where the shell
Speaker 1: used to be. Yeah, so thank you st fun We
Speaker 1: are good are There was not much. There really wasn't
Speaker 1: any destruction here. There were some people, thousand people in
Speaker 1: near the lost power for a while. We did not branches. No,
Speaker 1: I we did not go out we um you know
Speaker 1: tree branches. I have a lot of oak trees right
Speaker 1: around my house. So I had to get up on
Speaker 1: the roof and get a lot of supers off the roof.
Speaker 1: But that is not a complaint. Oh no, that there
Speaker 1: was no damage whatsoever. It took me like an hour.
Speaker 1: There are people that have lost oh everything possession wise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's people that haven't been found and well, and I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, is you, Um, it's tough enough
Speaker 1: to lose everything material wise, but when you lose a
Speaker 1: loved one, that's a whole other deal. So you know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna take a long time to
Speaker 1: rebuild very much. So it's it's really a tragedy. Um.
Speaker 1: And so you know, we always were thinking about them.
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, it wasn't bad here. It
Speaker 1: was like just kind of a heavy storm. The winds
Speaker 1: were whipping things around, but they weren't crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you. We didn't board up our windows. Well
Speaker 1: you see what happens if you live in Florida for
Speaker 1: a long time. A thunderstorm. It to me, it was
Speaker 1: like one of those. Really wow, that was a heavy thunderstorm.
Speaker 1: That's basically what it was. And that's how that's how
Speaker 1: lucky the Tampa Bay area got. So anyway, continuing on,
Speaker 1: I hope my written English is better than the Scot's
Speaker 1: spoken German. He's right, I really tried so last week
Speaker 1: he sends his questions in English. Obviously, or I wouldn't
Speaker 1: understand them. But his phone did that little signature at
Speaker 1: the bottom when it was in German. I tried to
Speaker 1: read it, he says. I really tried five times to
Speaker 1: figure out what he said. I mean again, one of
Speaker 1: the words was Vaughan. I got to be pronouncing that right,
Speaker 1: and one of them was mit with so, which I
Speaker 1: think is wh So wait, so so what was the
Speaker 1: over under? I said, you got two words under? Two words? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And he did. I said the over under two and
Speaker 1: you said under. You were saying I got one right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He didn't give me the specifics. It clearly did a
Speaker 1: terrible job, which I knew. Okay, he says, Jeff, I
Speaker 1: owe you an answer for me. It was impossible to
Speaker 1: get a ticket for the game in Munich, approximately seventy
Speaker 1: thousand tickets, but four and fifty thou people wanted a ticket,
Speaker 1: so I could just turn on my TV to watch
Speaker 1: the game. But that's fair. The game time would be nice,
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what questions answering game time. Well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be nine thirty here is when that game
Speaker 1: is going to be and I think Germany, Germany six
Speaker 1: hours ahead at that time. Because we're in Um. I
Speaker 1: believe Munich is six hours ahead, so that would be
Speaker 1: three thirty. How long is the flight there? How long
Speaker 1: it take? It wasn't seven hours in London. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: probably in the air probably eight and a half almost nine,
Speaker 1: and then coming back longer because you're you're flying in.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what he's referring to, but anyway,
Speaker 1: under his question about Luke getticky. I often hear people
Speaker 1: complaining about Luke quote marks, he plays bad, have to
Speaker 1: improve quickly, and so on. I think he's doing good
Speaker 1: considering the fact he's going through three transitions one from
Speaker 1: college to NFL, two from tackle and guard, three from
Speaker 1: right to left. That's the hardest one, and and he's
Speaker 1: right about that. U was a right tackle in college
Speaker 1: and that is tough to make all those transitions. At
Speaker 1: the same time. Coach Bowles has repeatedly said that Luke's
Speaker 1: playing I think he's playing well. I always hesitate to
Speaker 1: come up with too strong of an answer for this
Speaker 1: because I think it takes a trained I and be
Speaker 1: Um probably looking at the film a little bit more
Speaker 1: to really see how well a guy is. Risen too
Speaker 1: must be doing the nuances correctly and must be trending
Speaker 1: in the right way, because you can always get better
Speaker 1: right especially, but at least if they're talking to him,
Speaker 1: he's he's well, he's apparently a grinder and film grinder,
Speaker 1: and he's he's um putting into the lessons. He's being taught,
Speaker 1: maybe one or two at a time, but he's he's
Speaker 1: got a nice building block on his position. He's four
Speaker 1: games in, he's very talented, he's big and strong, and
Speaker 1: he devours films. So I think he's been fine and
Speaker 1: I think he'll get better. You can't argue with the
Speaker 1: fact that the Bucks haven't been able to run the
Speaker 1: ball for three games, so something's not going right up front.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, unless a guy. Sometimes you're watching a
Speaker 1: game and you see a guy completely with and the
Speaker 1: quarterback gets buried, and then you go, Okay, that was
Speaker 1: a bad play. But ninety percent of the time when
Speaker 1: you're watching football, you don't really even notice who was
Speaker 1: good on the offensive line. You're following the ball right,
Speaker 1: and even when they're sacks, you don't always know where
Speaker 1: they came from. So I find it a little difficult
Speaker 1: to give a full answer to this, But I'm optimistic
Speaker 1: about Luke. I agree, okay, right, what are you? Okay?
Speaker 1: And for Scott's some German words, which the problem here
Speaker 1: is they're spelled out, so I'm just gonna mispronounce them again.
Speaker 1: But here we go off, gets books, go bucks. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like it. Fair. How does they pronounce a D
Speaker 1: I E or d d d fairt the cannon in
Speaker 1: You probably can't figure that one out because a lot
Speaker 1: of German words do sound a little bit like English hoards,
Speaker 1: so fair, the cannon, fire, the cannon, the cannon's lost
Speaker 1: sun verdompt knockmal tune. That means what l f G means.
Speaker 1: So I might have just cursed. I like it. I
Speaker 1: think he just tricked me into cursing. I'm going to
Speaker 1: learn that, please, And then he puts in parentheses please
Speaker 1: don't say everything at the next episode, which is I'm
Speaker 1: not surely means by that, Probably I was I supposed
Speaker 1: to like spread those out, or maybe means don't try
Speaker 1: to talk in German anymore, which is a good idea.
Speaker 1: Probably all right, that was from Steffan. Thank you, Stefan. Well,
Speaker 1: well advice, Okay, this one doesn't This one starts this
Speaker 1: way instead, of like, hey, what do you call two
Speaker 1: guys who are there here for this? I get that
Speaker 1: your intro is pointing out the fact that you guys
Speaker 1: have been around the team for a long time, though
Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure, Sorry if I'm wrong. The
Speaker 1: oldest clip you play in that intro is from two
Speaker 1: thousand and two. Okay, is that right? Super Bowl? Well
Speaker 1: it's it's it's highlights, I know, but in terms of
Speaker 1: when they happened, well, Michael's well over nine. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: it was Vernon Turner, that would have been before them. Well,
Speaker 1: you do have to understand that there weren't a lot
Speaker 1: of um highlights when we first started. Okay. The other
Speaker 1: thing is I can only archive what audio we have,
Speaker 1: and I have no idea where in nineteen seventy nine
Speaker 1: audio would be. I mean, I suppose you could do
Speaker 1: like some all start all start up. They got the
Speaker 1: plays are all yeah, like huge places. There's only like
Speaker 1: five or six of them. So yeah, well, we we
Speaker 1: were taking the historic perspective, the perspective of it. You
Speaker 1: know that we're a different change for the franchise. This
Speaker 1: isn't a complaint, he continues, There have to be some
Speaker 1: things in Buck's history, you you haven't personally witnessed, right, well,
Speaker 1: more so for me than you, because you actually would
Speaker 1: go to games before you ever did in this, so
Speaker 1: you probably you've seen more than I have. So I
Speaker 1: have a two part question. It's kind of a past
Speaker 1: and future thing. Okay, First, of the moment's games whatever
Speaker 1: in Buck's history that you didn't personally didn't personally witness,
Speaker 1: what would be tops on your list if you could
Speaker 1: have been there? Well, for me immediately, it would be
Speaker 1: the championship game in in um Green Bay because of
Speaker 1: COVID and we weren't allowed to travel. It was restricted
Speaker 1: and thought about going anyways, but because of all the
Speaker 1: different if if I would have been a fan, it
Speaker 1: would have been easy to go. But to do what
Speaker 1: we did, there was no way we can pull up
Speaker 1: to just explain everybody that doesn't already know. During the
Speaker 1: season we did not travel because until then I personally
Speaker 1: had missed being in person for one game in since
Speaker 1: I missed one game other than that season though, so
Speaker 1: we missed actually I missed one road game that was
Speaker 1: all I missed. Yeah, never know home games, but we
Speaker 1: missed eight nine nine because the first three first, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: there's no preseason. We missed all home games plus two
Speaker 1: playoff games one. The first three games were all on
Speaker 1: the road. Oh, I'm sorry, so it's three. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: you've missed the Saints game was a playoff three, right,
Speaker 1: and so how many does that we missed? Eleven? Okay? Uh,
Speaker 1: so we did it. We did our broadcast and I
Speaker 1: did my job remotely from Raymond James Stadium, the control
Speaker 1: room of Raymond James Stadium. Over the course of the season,
Speaker 1: it was, you know, I would didn't feel too bad
Speaker 1: about it. There was some you know, shirks to not traveling.
Speaker 1: I didn't miss, but that game, we missed that game.
Speaker 1: We really wanted to be there. I did that. That
Speaker 1: bothered me, Like the celebration on the field was awesome.
Speaker 1: That whole year bothered me. I think that this question
Speaker 1: probably meant like things that happened before we started working,
Speaker 1: But that's the first thing that came to mind. I
Speaker 1: can say. I can say this UM in person. I
Speaker 1: wasn't at the seventy nine championship game against I thought
Speaker 1: you were gonna nail both my answers, but you didn't. Um.
Speaker 1: I was at the UM three. Nothing nothing on the
Speaker 1: very last I was at that game. I I that
Speaker 1: was the second one on my list. Um, you know
Speaker 1: because you were there. But it was played in a
Speaker 1: torrential downpour. There's the famous clips of like just the
Speaker 1: like the stone water cascading and back then you could
Speaker 1: have umbrellas in the which really sucked because if someone
Speaker 1: had an umbrella, the yeah, you couldn't see and then
Speaker 1: they would tilt it when you're and when you're little,
Speaker 1: you know, they tilted in the water would just run
Speaker 1: on you. So awesome. But yeah, uh, the highlights from
Speaker 1: that game. It was a three nothing game, but I
Speaker 1: remember Jerry Eckwood running down the sideline and dropping the ball.
Speaker 1: It just fell out. It was very very but it
Speaker 1: was very very exciting because at that time it was
Speaker 1: you know, from last place the first Um, the Bucks
Speaker 1: won three nothing, as just said on a Neil o'donnah
Speaker 1: Hugh field goal. Um, the game is the entire game, right,
Speaker 1: the entire game. It just poured the whole time. So
Speaker 1: it was I like those. Whenever there's a weird weather
Speaker 1: game like the Buffalo New England game from last season,
Speaker 1: whenever there's a weird weather game that makes the game
Speaker 1: fundamentally different than he usually is. That's fun to see,
Speaker 1: so I would have liked Maybe it would have been
Speaker 1: unpleasant in some ways, as you would know, but I
Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen that, But did not
Speaker 1: go to the next game the next week, which was
Speaker 1: the when and so that three nothing win over Ken
Speaker 1: City was important because it clinched the Buck's first ever
Speaker 1: division title. So that's that. I can't believe he came
Speaker 1: up with those two gameswers. Second, what what's a Bucks
Speaker 1: record you hope you get to witness in person in
Speaker 1: the future. I think he means, like somebody setting around here,
Speaker 1: Thanks dogs, go Bucks, and let's beat the snot out
Speaker 1: of those annoying Falcons best and funny, this guy doesn't
Speaker 1: like the Falcons. Probably this is why it doesn't like
Speaker 1: the Falcons. He's probably his name is Rick, and he
Speaker 1: says he's from Atlanta, So you know, when you you're
Speaker 1: a lifelong fan of some team and he moved to
Speaker 1: another city there, he's probably annoyed even more than we
Speaker 1: are by the Falcons. I would say for me, um
Speaker 1: one one would be if anybody ever beat Doug Martin's
Speaker 1: rushing record when you had the two because it would
Speaker 1: be cool. Running isn't as bigger of the game anymore.
Speaker 1: But whenever you see one of those games where one
Speaker 1: guys just run a while, that's a lot of fun
Speaker 1: to wat. Yeah that that was a crazy game. And
Speaker 1: I do remember that game because I remember Warren Sap
Speaker 1: running after him trying. Yeah on one play, yes, because
Speaker 1: Warren was playing for the Raiders. That. Yeah, Doug broke
Speaker 1: off like three seven yard runs or something. Crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's because that that would be
Speaker 1: like you you don't see that anymore. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: last time background. Yeah. So otherwise, probably the way the
Speaker 1: game's going, I would say if I'd like to see
Speaker 1: a quarterback break either a record for touchdowns in a
Speaker 1: game because you have to get six. Yeah, and seeing
Speaker 1: your quarterback throw six touchdows would be probably getting the
Speaker 1: crap or yards. Well, I would like to see a
Speaker 1: sixty four yard field goal. Okay, that's cool. I would
Speaker 1: like to see that. That would not break a record.
Speaker 1: What what what the record is? It's more like sixty
Speaker 1: five or sixty six. I don't believe so, no, no,
Speaker 1: I believe the record. There's been sixty five. Tom Dempsey's
Speaker 1: record of sixty three has been broken multiple times in
Speaker 1: the last decade, and now you got to look it
Speaker 1: up because that's the one I remember. I do know
Speaker 1: someone did in Denver hit one and said did they tried?
Speaker 1: I think they tied? Did they tie the record? Justin
Speaker 1: Tucker of the Ravens just last year, I think hit
Speaker 1: the sixty five yard are the one that bounced on
Speaker 1: the crossbar and then bounced through? That would remember that.
Speaker 1: But well we'll after the longest NFL field goal regular season,
Speaker 1: longest field goal in NFL history sixt No, this is old.
Speaker 1: Why what was it? Say? But you thought it was
Speaker 1: sixty There it goes ten longest field goals in NFL history.
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker sixty six last year. There, that's the one
Speaker 1: you just brought up. So order okay, so they are
Speaker 1: in order. Sixty six by Justin t that's one that
Speaker 1: bounced on the crossbar. This is the one you were
Speaker 1: thinking of, Um Matt Prator in Denver. It's sixty doesn't
Speaker 1: count because you're high altitude. Go on, uh and Tom
Speaker 1: Tom Jason Ellen made sixty three, okay, So I would
Speaker 1: like to witness the sixty seven plus yard field goal
Speaker 1: how's that it's gonna happen someday? Well, I know, but
Speaker 1: I want to be there. Do you know who holds
Speaker 1: the Buck's record for most passing yards in a single game? Wow,
Speaker 1: this sounds like a trick question. The most passing yards
Speaker 1: in a single game. You would you would automatically think
Speaker 1: TB twelve. But I don't think that's the case because
Speaker 1: I think it's a trick question. So, uh, Doug Williams,
Speaker 1: It's still Doug Williams from like he had something like
Speaker 1: four or sixt yards sixty nine yards in a game
Speaker 1: against Minnesota, which make no sense. Can I ask you something?
Speaker 1: Why are you disappointed when I guess right? I would
Speaker 1: like to win? I know, But do the inflection in
Speaker 1: your when I go douglash? Yeah, Doug Williams, you just
Speaker 1: hate that you want confetti? Yeah, I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1: Going Okay, this is a trick question. The door flies open,
Speaker 1: presented with a check. There you go, very good job.
Speaker 1: So it would be cool to see one of us guys, okay,
Speaker 1: whether that be Tom Brady next week or Kyle Trask
Speaker 1: in a couple of years. Yeah, there you go, there
Speaker 1: you go. Um Hey, salty dogs, went to the Bucks
Speaker 1: chief scheme and it wasn't a win. Good point. I'm
Speaker 1: certainly glad that you observed that, but it was awesome
Speaker 1: to see that the passing game can still be as
Speaker 1: good as it gets. Yeah, one thing I've noticed is
Speaker 1: that Mike Evans seems to have a lot more wow
Speaker 1: catches and less easy drops since Brady arrived. Do you
Speaker 1: see the same? Is there something different about him or
Speaker 1: the way Brady throws the ball that has caused Mike
Speaker 1: to take a step forward. Thanks Alex Kannata from Wichituk, Kansas.
Speaker 1: We're not going to have the Kansas City in Kansas
Speaker 1: discussion this time. No, So yeah, I mean I don't
Speaker 1: think it's because of Brady's arrival. Probably, I mean he's
Speaker 1: getting maybe he's getting better passes overall, more accurate passions.
Speaker 1: But I think it's what we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: He just continues to work on his game. If there
Speaker 1: was a time in his in his career when he
Speaker 1: had drops, he's worked on it and now he doesn't
Speaker 1: do it his off Um, you know, the the emotional
Speaker 1: outbursts that he used to have all the time, he
Speaker 1: just I know he had one this season, But for
Speaker 1: the most part, has cleared those up. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that that Um, I think he realizes that he
Speaker 1: has to keep as as a big a competitor as
Speaker 1: he is, and how much he wants to defend his
Speaker 1: that was what made it happen this time. Yea. But
Speaker 1: he has to learn and I think he has learned
Speaker 1: that he can't put it put the team in a
Speaker 1: situation because I think he looks at the green Bay
Speaker 1: game himself and said, you know what, I could be
Speaker 1: a difference maker there because he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 1: He is a team oriented, no question. So I don't
Speaker 1: think it's I don't personally think it's just because of Brady.
Speaker 1: I think it's just that's his natural. Yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: defending his guys. Know I'm saying, his dropping the ball,
Speaker 1: ask making more what's the matter? So I thought maybe
Speaker 1: I thought maybe a big alert came or something. Okay,
Speaker 1: one more, okay, one more works for me. Okay. One
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I if he's gonna send if
Speaker 1: our friend from Brazil, Alexander is going to send us
Speaker 1: a question every week, you I'm just gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: read it because he has he clearly has a superstition
Speaker 1: about his questions. Here's the thing. If you take the
Speaker 1: time two send an email to Salty Dogs dot NFL
Speaker 1: no salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. If
Speaker 1: you take the time just to type out that email
Speaker 1: address that's long and ask a question, we could at
Speaker 1: least read it and answer it. Well, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to. Next week you get thirty questions, We're not
Speaker 1: going to answer them all, so I can't totally promise that.
Speaker 1: But my point being, we don't have some special um
Speaker 1: well sometimes it's duplicate. Sometimes they're duplicate questions, So we
Speaker 1: don't have some special affinity for Alexander above our other lists.
Speaker 1: He has taken the effort and he clearly has a
Speaker 1: superstition about how him asking questions effects what happens with
Speaker 1: the bucks in the field. So I feel bad if
Speaker 1: I don't read it. I hope you find hope this
Speaker 1: finds you both, you both and your family as well
Speaker 1: and safe. So thank you. We have discussed that already
Speaker 1: before talking about last game. I'd like to tell you
Speaker 1: that my eight year old son and I practice flag
Speaker 1: football once a week here, so obviously we are excited
Speaker 1: about the new Pro Bowl game rules. We train with
Speaker 1: a train with a team called Canniballs cannon balls no
Speaker 1: c A n I Balls, which sounds a lot like cannibals. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe it is the cannibals that could be. They could
Speaker 1: have some pretty creative they guess they eat everybody up.
Speaker 1: It was the postgame meal there, you don't want to
Speaker 1: miss it. And it was the halftime snack. Yes, they
Speaker 1: have like they probably have. They devoured the other team
Speaker 1: have um what do they call it? Finger food? Finger sandwiches,
Speaker 1: figure sandwiches for halftime snack. Oh, you gotta lag up
Speaker 1: on me on that one. Don't don't try to get
Speaker 1: me started on puns. You're not well armed enough to
Speaker 1: hang with me on puns. I'll be over your head.
Speaker 1: I seeing eye to eye on this right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm out of excuses now. I've sent you
Speaker 1: emails every week with football questions and you were kind
Speaker 1: enough to read it, and we still lost too in
Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, but I really, but I really can't
Speaker 1: understand why we uh quote marks have to believe that
Speaker 1: players are not people. Why are we supposed to assume
Speaker 1: that leaving your house with your family to another city
Speaker 1: by car plane in the middle of a game week
Speaker 1: is not a factor, and how the team can prepare.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing a lot about how they can't use it
Speaker 1: as an excuse and blah blah blah. What are they machines?
Speaker 1: Do they lack sentiments? Come on, and now we are
Speaker 1: two and two? What most thought it would be a
Speaker 1: good place to be giving our schedule, leading the division
Speaker 1: with a really important game on Sunday against a division
Speaker 1: foe who also has two and two and lost their
Speaker 1: best offensive weapon today, he means, Cordil Patterson, So keep
Speaker 1: your head up and go bucks. Since he didn't, thanks
Speaker 1: for reading. Uh yeah, I mean it's a good point.
Speaker 1: I think football teams try very very hard not to
Speaker 1: make excuses, and because you don't want your players to
Speaker 1: to be in a mode where anytime someone goes bad
Speaker 1: they have an excuse. There there is a multitude of
Speaker 1: things there goes on and individuals lives all right, So
Speaker 1: it's all how you hone in on it for game
Speaker 1: weeker game day. There's a reason why teams go to
Speaker 1: a hotel when they're at home. They don't sleep at home.
Speaker 1: There's a reason for that, and a lot of that
Speaker 1: is to cut out the distractions from family life, which
Speaker 1: that's kind of sounds, you know, like, oh, why would
Speaker 1: you do that? But if you're at home and you
Speaker 1: have little kids, they're crying. Whatever, you need to focus
Speaker 1: so they, you know, best chance. Travel as a pain
Speaker 1: in the butt, regardless whether you you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what the Bucks had to experience going down to
Speaker 1: Miami and coming back. But that's not an excuse. And
Speaker 1: that's why you hear it's not an excuse. It's not
Speaker 1: an excuse. However, it is reasonable what he's doing here.
Speaker 1: It is reasonable to wonder if that affected their performance
Speaker 1: in their preparation. Yeah, but you can't let it. You
Speaker 1: have to be able to overcome that. You have worries
Speaker 1: in your life. Wow, this ky might be affecting your property,
Speaker 1: but you have worries in your life all the time.
Speaker 1: Kind of over the top. Part of the what the
Speaker 1: Bucks did was they allowed any player and coach that
Speaker 1: wanted to to bring their family to and so that's great,
Speaker 1: and the point, it's a very good idea, and it
Speaker 1: was a good point was they need to know that
Speaker 1: their families are safe first before they can focus on
Speaker 1: So great job, great decision. That being said, you don't
Speaker 1: normally have your family with you at the hotel for
Speaker 1: a week as you're preparing, right, So there's that. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's excuse either, And if I had to guess,
Speaker 1: I don't think that had much to do with when
Speaker 1: the Bucks underperformed. But I also don't think it's illogical
Speaker 1: what he's saying here, that that that could affect you.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to go because clearly it was not
Speaker 1: the easiest way to prepare for you. And if you
Speaker 1: want to know a little more about the travel and everything, um,
Speaker 1: by the time you're hearing this podcast, you would be
Speaker 1: able to go to Bucks Total Access the Todd Bowles Show. UM.
Speaker 1: The second half of that show is director of Team
Speaker 1: Travel Tim JOCKI sitting down with Casey and talking about
Speaker 1: all the logistics of because she thought of it first
Speaker 1: and asked me how I felt about it, and I said,
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea, especially right now, and
Speaker 1: it's really good. It's it's it's it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: What goes through all of that cool? So you're not
Speaker 1: gonna tell me about well, I was just gonna let
Speaker 1: it go that you missed you know it's funny. Scott
Speaker 1: tried to hit a trash can with a piece of
Speaker 1: paper and missed again again. But I will tell you this,
Speaker 1: no matter what broadcast booth I'm in, wherever the trash
Speaker 1: can is, at some point during the game, I have
Speaker 1: to crumple something up and throw it. If I hit it,
Speaker 1: we win the game. When I bounced it off, we
Speaker 1: have lost. So I have to get better at shooting
Speaker 1: because I missed during the Kansas City I threw a
Speaker 1: bottle um, you know, tossed it. There's no brown, an
Speaker 1: empty water bottle and tried to hit the recycling container
Speaker 1: and it hit it, but it bounced out, and when
Speaker 1: I hit the floor, I thought, oh that's that's that's
Speaker 1: not a good sign. And it wasn't. So so before
Speaker 1: we go, I just thought i'd rewind youre too. Earlier
Speaker 1: in this podcast, when you claimed that you weren't No,
Speaker 1: I did say I was superstitious. Well, you were certainly
Speaker 1: getting on me for being superstitious. Well, no, I was saying,
Speaker 1: just go ahead and play the guy. You said that now,
Speaker 1: but originally no. If you go back and know you
Speaker 1: did say that, but before you said that, I were
Speaker 1: getting on my case for that question with eyes more
Speaker 1: are really getting on your case about telling you about
Speaker 1: fantasy football. That was a valid point that you could
Speaker 1: help me with it, and I did. I gave you
Speaker 1: great advice twice. I will say this, given your feelings
Speaker 1: about fantasy football, do you think I'm actually gonna take
Speaker 1: your advice? Well, if you would have last week, you
Speaker 1: would have scored big. I agreed with you on playing. Um,
Speaker 1: what have my evince no when not only like Evan's Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it. It doesn't matter. I still want ah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who I play. I
Speaker 1: still whenever I got good definitely. Okay, enough about that,
Speaker 1: I have nothing else. Jeff, You're done. Thank you for
Speaker 1: your time. Thanks everybody for listening. Um, since you did,
Speaker 1: thanks for listening.