1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Third hour. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Clay end Buck kicks off right now. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 3: We've got our friend vivek Ramas Swami with us now. 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: He is running for president of the United States. He's 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 3: in the Republican primary right now. The Vike always appreciate 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 3: you making the time for us. 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Good to be on. Man, how are you? 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 4: You know? 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Pretty good? Pretty good? 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to get your take first off. I mean 12 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: we're you know, we're on the cusp pier of a 13 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: debate that you won't be a part of. One of 14 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: your competitors, Ron de Santis, governor Florida, will be tomorrow 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: this Gavin Newsom, Ron DeSantis throwdown the blue state red 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: state thunderdome if you will, or you know, the big 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: the big battle underway. What do you make of what 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: we're seeing here? How do you think it's going to go? 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't really care one or another. I think it's 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: a random charade between you know. I think it's interesting 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: how Ron DeSantis wasn't running for president for a year 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: and a half while being a governor, in much the 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: same way that Gavin Newsom is also now not running 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: for president. That times what Gavin Newsom is doing. So 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a nice little win for Gavin Newsom 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: to be able to pre bolster what will almost surely 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: be the seat that he takes as the Democratic nominee 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: after they get their puppet Joe Biden out of the way. 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: I do think that we're missing the point if we 30 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: think that Joe Biden is really the nominated. Republicans who 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: have trained their fire on Joe Biden are missing the 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: point that he's not really in any meaningful sense, the 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: president or the nominee. He is a puppet for the 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: managerial class. And so in some ways I think that 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: this does a great favor to providing a platform for 36 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom to be able to advance and get a 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: head start on that presidential campaign, but without actually having 38 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: declared it. And you know Republican establishment that once again 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: continues scoring a series of own goals, it doesn't surprise 40 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: me that they have failed to see that for what 41 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: it is. 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: I agree with you that Joe Biden is not going 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: to be the nominee. Buck and I have a stake 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: bet over this. 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: I do not agree. So I think this is going 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: off the rails real fast, but. 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: Go ahead, so you may be able to come join 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: us on that dinner if we end up being correct. 49 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: But if you are right, and if I am right 50 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: that Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee, 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: you think it will be Gavin Newsome. How do they 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: get past Kamala Harris without being racist and sexist? And 53 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: how does the fix happen? I was debating this with 54 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: my wife the other the other day. How do they 55 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: go about removing Joe Biden? What do you think that 56 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: process would look like? Because I agree with you that 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 4: he's not going to be the guy. How do you 58 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: see it playing out? 59 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Well, they've already got the cards lined up a little bit. 60 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: So first of all, the Kamala Harris problem is easy. 61 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: You make a hollowed out husk of a joke of 62 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: the vice presidential role and have her dude be in 63 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: the place where she can do the least damage possible, 64 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: be the vice president, give her no responsibility. And that's 65 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: the one thing that I would say that Joe Biden 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: has done well is make sure that Kamala Harris doesn't 67 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: have any responsibilit So I think the less she does 68 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: for the country some people make fun of her for 69 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: not showing up. I think that's been one of the 70 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: great national services she possibly could have done, was actually 71 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: to stay far away from anything that affected this country. 72 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: So I think that can just continue for another forty 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: eight years in the Democrats view, I think that's solves 74 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: the identity politic problem. Now, what about the Biden problem 75 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: to the extent that there is still a man who 76 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: has some semblance of free will left in that in 77 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: that body. You know, what if he doesn't want to 78 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: step aside and out of the way, Well, here's the 79 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: answer to that. This is what the so called documents 80 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: investigation on Biden is all about. And a little bit 81 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: of the Hunter Biden investigations play this role too. These 82 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: are cards that I think they don't want to pull 83 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: unless they have to. But they are what you call 84 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: in the business world a call option, right. I think 85 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: that that's a option that they can exercise is they 86 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: need to in order to get the old man out 87 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: of the way. And so that's what that documents case 88 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: is all about. And there's a little bit of a 89 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: twofer built into that because they do that even if 90 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Biden cries foul or whatever, they already have the narrative 91 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: set up to say that, well, they said that we 92 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: had a politicized investigation of Donald Trump in the document's case. 93 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: But see now we're just applying it even handedly. That 94 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: there is actually one rule of law that's sort of 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: the Merrick Garland deep state line that they have ready 96 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: to go. It legitimizes everything they're doing against Trump while 97 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: also getting Biden out of the way in one fell swoop. 98 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: And so I think that's kind of how the managerial 99 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: class deep state operates. It operates and transcends above the 100 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: lines of traditional partisanship. And so they'll just close the 101 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: loop in both addressing the allegations of politicization of the 102 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: justice system while using that very justice system or in 103 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: justice system as the case may be, to sideline Biden 104 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: and achieve the actual goals of the manual class that 105 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: has lost or will have lost their use for Biden. 106 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: So mark my words, or maybe I should say our 107 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: words on that we're on the same at least one 108 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: of us is on the side of this, and I 109 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: think it'll be in the next three to four months 110 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: if this happens, and all give you a very specific 111 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: prediction on timing what they're waiting for is for the 112 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: Trump trials to begin, and that's really when they'll be 113 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: able to slip that in while minimizing the fallout from it, 114 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: because their bet is that he'll be almost the runaway 115 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: nominee by then, wait for his trials to begin and 116 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: then and then roll that out. I think that's what 117 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: the establishment in the managerial class of the Democratic Party 118 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: is currently thinking. 119 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: Speaking of a Viake Ramaswami, he is running for president 120 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: and Vivek, you've you've got some interesting numbers looking forward 121 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: here into Iowa and New Hampshire. What is your pathway 122 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: here and and why at this point, I mean, you're 123 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: still still very much in the mix. Why at this 124 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: point should it be you and not just Donald Trump, 125 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: who's out thirty points forty points depending on the poll, 126 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: ahead of the pack. 127 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 128 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: So, look, I think it's going to take a leader 129 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: from the next generation to do this. I think you 130 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: get to be an outsider one. And unlike the other 131 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: candidates who are trying to Monday Morning quarterback Trump, after 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: kissing his feet and begging for money and endorsement for years, 133 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: on the other way around, I have not been kissing 134 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's feet, but I respect his legacy and I 135 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: think that he's been an excellent president. But I think 136 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: it's going to take somebody from the next generation now 137 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: to take that America First movement to the next level. 138 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: And if you look at there are certain things I've 139 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: issues I've espoused in this race. I mean from being 140 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: open about the fact that Ukraine is not some democracy 141 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: and our own taxpayer money is funding the persecution of 142 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Christians in Ukraine, or the persecution of Christians in Armenia, 143 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: or for that matter, the fact that we need to 144 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: shut down agencies like the FBI, or that Ron McDaniel 145 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: needs to be fired, or the fact that the climate 146 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: change agenda is a hoax, and one of the Iowa's 147 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: specific issues a carbon capture pipeline that they're using and 148 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: building across the state, using eminent domain to seize the 149 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: land of farmers to bury carbon dioxide into the ground. 150 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: Across any of these issues, there's a reason why I'm 151 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: the only Republican candidate who's actually been able to stand 152 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: for these issues with a spine. I'm an outsider in 153 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: this race, and you know what, every politician is dancing 154 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: to the tune of their biggest donor on that debate stage. 155 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: In my case, that biggest donor is me, and I 156 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: think that's a big difference between me and the rest 157 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: of this field. I think Trump had a big element 158 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: of that, which is why I respect him. But now 159 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: it's going to take a leader from the next generation 160 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: with fresh legs to actually reach the next generation. Forty 161 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: percent of our donors right now are first time ever 162 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: donors to the Republican Party, which is unheard of in 163 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: our party, it's normally two percent. We're bringing young people 164 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: along in droves, so I think I can win that 165 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: general election and landslide by bringing those young people along. 166 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: I also think my past that you're asking about, I 167 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: think we're going to shock the world with what we 168 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: do in those first two primary states, including in Iowa. 169 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: So I'm undoubtedly among the major candidates right now the underdog, 170 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: but I think that's exactly where we want to be sitting. 171 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: We're going to shatter expectations in Iowa and New Hampshire, 172 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: and that's going to propel us forward to the rest 173 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: of this race. And you know, I think that having 174 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: the expectations set where they are exactly where we want them, 175 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, guys running my Iowa operation used to do 176 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: this for both of Santorum in twenty twelve and then 177 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: Ted clus in sixteen. And you know, I'm pulling ahead 178 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: of where Santorum was at this time in that race, 179 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and he ended up winning Iowa. Santorum didn't have the 180 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: money to continue though. In my case, we've lived the 181 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: American dream. We are stopping at nothing to succeed in 182 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: reviving this country. And so yes, I'm confident we're going 183 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: to be able to go the distance. 184 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: You've done more events. I saw you share this than anybody. 185 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: I think Ron DeSantis in second place. If you are 186 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 4: not correct right, let's say you don't as shatter expectations 187 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: and you're not the clear number two in Iowa or 188 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: New Hampshire. Would you consider endorsing anyone other than Donald Trump? 189 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: Or if at some point you have to put your 190 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: support behind someone else, is it fair to say Trump 191 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: has got your support, that he would be your guy? 192 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 4: Or would you consider Nicki Haley or Ron DeSantis or 193 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: Chris Christy or somebody else. 194 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think someone like a Nicky Haley should 195 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: come nowhere within spitting distance of the White House, not 196 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: just in the presidency, but even as it relates to 197 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: touching our foreign policy and marching US into World War 198 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: three so they can make more money off of it. 199 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: So put that to one side. I've said it's been 200 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: very clear since the beginning. There's two America First candidates 201 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: in this race, and I think it needs to be 202 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: one of us that leads this country. That's Donald Trump. 203 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: For myself, I think I'm uniquely positioned to take our 204 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: agenda further because I can reach the next generation to 205 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: do it. And you know what, so I expect Donald 206 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: Trump's full support if I'm the nominee, and he'll have 207 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: my full support if he is a nominee. But I 208 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: think that's got to be an America First candidate. And 209 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: there's really only two of them in this race, and 210 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: I think both of us can win a general. But 211 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I think I could do this in a landslide, and 212 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: I can do this in a way that frankly goes 213 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: further with our own agenda because we're going to bring 214 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: that next generation along. We're already seeing that in this campaign, 215 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: and I think that's the way I'm going to lead 216 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: this country as well. So I've been crystal clear about that. 217 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: I think it's answer to your questions, not even close. 218 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: It's either Trump or myself. 219 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 4: Okay, So we had Chris Christy on Wednesday and I 220 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: asked him the same question, and he said, obviously he's 221 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: very anti Trump. He specifically said that he wouldn't support you. 222 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: He said he would support Nicki Haley or Ron DeSantis. 223 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: Mitt Romney basically said the same thing. Why do you 224 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: think Chris Christy and Mitt Romney have that perspective? And 225 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: I'm curious, given that Mitt Romney was the nominee in 226 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 4: twenty twelve, can you think of a bigger Republican turncoat 227 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: than Mitt Romney. 228 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: It'd be hard I'd be hard pressed to do it. 229 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: I think that his niece, who's running the RNC, has 230 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: been an abysmal failure. Ronna Romney McDaniel, who is running 231 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: the Republican National Committee, has led us through failure after 232 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: failure after failure after failure twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, twenty 233 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: twenty two, and twenty twenty three. Her salary is nearly 234 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: tripled in the meantime, and so I called for her resignation. 235 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: So I think that that family, you know, doesn't I 236 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: think have a lot of warm feelings towards me. But 237 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: the reason is deeper than that. It's an ideological divide 238 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: in the GOP. Do you want to go back in 239 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: the direction of Dick Cheney in believing that it's the 240 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: job of the US to serve as the global arbiter, 241 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: as the policeman of the world while a bunch of 242 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: people in the military industrial complex get to make money 243 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: doing it, from Dick Cheney to Nikki Haley to a 244 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: lot of people on the Democratic side who are benefiting 245 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: from this financial grift of our military industrial complex as well. 246 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Is that the direction you want to go? Or do 247 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: you want to go to a future where the US 248 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: president has a sole moral duty to the US citizens 249 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: right here at home. That's a fundamental ideological split. And 250 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: I think the Chris Christy and Mitt Romney and Karl 251 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Rove and Nick Cheney and Nikki Haley and Undzi Graham, 252 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: and you know, you can just put straight down the 253 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: list of that republic and establishment, Chris Sununu whatever. They're 254 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: all on one side of that ideological divide. And there 255 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: are certain day ron the Santas Is too, though sometimes 256 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: he's you know, Schrodinger is ron As. I like to 257 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: call him. You never know whether he's inside which side 258 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 1: of the wall he's actually on. To play on a 259 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: physics analogy here, but yeah, I think that everybody else, 260 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: you know where they are. They're on one side of 261 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: that divide, and I think Donald Trump and I are 262 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: on the other side of that divide. And so it's 263 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: clear why that Mitt Romney, he was clear he said 264 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: he would rather vote for a Democrat in twenty twenty 265 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: four than Donald Trump. For myself, I take that as 266 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: a kind of positive endorsement, but I don't think he 267 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: meant it that way regardless. I think America First is 268 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: the way of the future. I think we're bringing along 269 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: a suit. I was just in an event. I'm here 270 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: in rural Iowa looking at farmland on a bus. As 271 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: we're talking here, we actually just said that. Last event, 272 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: I had a number of people who were independence, one 273 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: of whom was the Libertarians that he switched over his 274 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: registration so that he's able to vote in the caucus 275 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: for us. These people are not polled. These people, I 276 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: think are going to be what allow us to shock 277 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: the world. The set of people who are not polled 278 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: who are actually supporting us. The numbers are wild in 279 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: Iowa and in New Hampshire, Iowa in particular. That's going 280 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: to be a shock. And so I think we're going 281 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: to be successful, not only winning the nomination, but precisely 282 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: because I'm getting that back in I think I can 283 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: win the general in a landslide like what Reagan delivered 284 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty. And I know that sounds about as 285 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: ridiculous for me to say as it did for Reagan 286 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: to say in November of seventy nine, but that's what 287 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: I think we're on track to do. And you know, 288 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: it's not just even winning the election that's the destination 289 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: for me. That's just the start line. The destination is 290 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: January twenty thirty three, when I leave this office after 291 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: two terms, what do I want to say we did. 292 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I think we're going to shut down the deep state, 293 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: declare independence from China, keep us out of World War three, 294 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: revive national pride in this country. And I think I'm 295 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: the single candidate who can do those things better than 296 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: anybody else. And so we're going to see this through 297 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: to the end, and I think we're going to be 298 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: successful in doing it. 299 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: The veg Ramaswami everybody but vague appreciate you being here. 300 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. Take care. 301 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: That is going to be interesting, right. 302 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: If he's right and he's going to bring out a 303 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: lot of new voters, then that would be intriguing to see. 304 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: If he's not and he doesn't exceed expectations, I don't 305 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: know that I've seen him say anywhere else that he 306 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: would endorse Donald Trump. It's not shocking, but I think 307 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: he's the only person remaining in the race who would 308 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 4: endorse Trump. We'll talk about that a bit more when 309 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 4: we come back. In the meantime. My Pillow company focused 310 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: on making comfortable products for your home. 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Use 326 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: the code Clay and Buck speaking truth and having fun 327 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: Clay Travis and Buck. 328 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: Sexton just still wanted to touch base on this year 329 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: for a second play. Hunter Biden is out there and 330 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: he is saying he's going on offense. I'd mentioned this 331 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: movie before, and Parine Jean Pierre here is saying that, 332 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, really they should just focus on the American 333 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: people's families and not Hunter Biden. This has to do 334 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: with his potential testimony to Congress. Play six here would you? 335 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 5: Hunter Biden's attorney, Abby Lowell has offered to testify, but 336 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: publicly does the White House support that when the White 337 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 5: House Counsel advise him and should have went get to 338 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 5: negotiate one of those terms on how how they should 339 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: be able to testify. 340 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: House Republicans should should really focus on American families instead 341 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: of the president's family. 342 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 6: That's what Americans want to see. 343 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Focus on the American families in their needs and what 344 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: they want, and not the president's family. 345 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: What do you make of all this? 346 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I know she's saying what 347 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: she has to say there, but Hunter's saying he wants 348 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: to testify but it has to be public, and all 349 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: this wrangling. 350 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: What is this? 351 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: I admire the hutzba from Hunter Biden, who seems to 352 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 4: have decided that he wants to try to start to 353 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: throw punches of his own right now. And for people 354 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 4: out there who are wondering, what's the difference here in 355 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: a deposition, You're not getting defended half the time, and 356 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: when you have this public hearing, correct me if I'm wrong, Buck, 357 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: But everybody gets five minutes to ask questions and you 358 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: basically alternate between Democrat and Republican. So all Hunter Biden 359 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: would turn into just a public mess and both sides 360 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 4: would be able to claim victory, and we know how 361 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: this would be covered by the media. Now, I'd still 362 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: like to see it. I still think that Hunter Biden 363 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: is taking on a risk by being under oath to 364 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: make commentary in front of Congress. I think Vivek's answer 365 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: there was really interesting, that it's a version of what 366 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 4: I kind of thought might happen, but that the Democrats 367 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: are finally going to say to Joe Biden, Hey, the 368 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: gigs up. Trump's on trial. Now you've got your own 369 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: criminal culpability. Either we're going to have to turn our 370 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: cannons in some way on you, or you can ride 371 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: off into the sunset claim victory, say that you don't 372 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: have the health or stamina to still be president of 373 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: the United States, pardon your son, and allow yourself to 374 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 4: be considered the victor. I think that's a really interesting angle, 375 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: and I could see it playing out like that. 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Kid had his 406 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: face painted half of it was red, half of it 407 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: was black and matched his red Chiefs jersey Travis Kelce 408 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 4: jersey and his black T shirt that was underneath that 409 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: jersey color coordinated. One of the four colors to the 410 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: Kansasity Chiefs is black and he wore a head dress 411 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs. You can see like a chief would 412 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: have a head dress. Picture was taken off of a 413 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: television broadcast. A website called dead Spin wrote about it 414 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: demanded that the kid be punished. Kid's mom has now 415 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: spoken out. Story was up on Fox News, story was 416 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: up on OutKick and has gone megaviral, and she says 417 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 4: that the kid's grandfather and father are Native American and 418 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: that he was honoring his grandfather and his father by 419 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 4: being both a football fan and wearing the. 420 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: Chief's head dress to a game. 421 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 4: This is just a perfect identity politics plot twist. By 422 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: the way, the reason it went viral the first time 423 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 4: was because of photo. The video still shot of the photo, 424 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: half of his face was black, and so sports media 425 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 4: members said, oh, my goodness, this is blackface. And then 426 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 4: when the full picture came out showing that he was 427 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: half red faced right like painted in Chief's colors, they 428 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: then said, oh, this is awful too. Because of the 429 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 4: dress that he was wearing. Now the mom is saying 430 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 4: her son is Native American. He has been wronged by 431 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: the media coverage surrounding this. He is an elementary school kid, 432 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: and I think she's got buck one heck of a 433 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: lawsuit now because her son has been branded a racist, 434 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 4: you know, bigot. First of all, he's an elementary school kid, 435 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: but now he is according to this report, the mom 436 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: is married to a Native American and the kid is 437 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 4: honoring his grandfather, who I believe they said, sits on 438 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 4: a Native American council. 439 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: Oh, this is an amazing point. 440 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: I think we know that that dead Spin and whoever 441 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: the writer is a dead Spin who first put this 442 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: this post up. They had known that the what is 443 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: he like ten year old kid or something? 444 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: He looks to me, I. 445 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: Think he's even younger than that, but yes, like like 446 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: your old kid. Yeah was in any way? You know, Look, 447 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: if it wasn't a kid who was white, who had 448 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: the face paint on, I don't think the dead Spin 449 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: would have gone after him. 450 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: Now, correct, the. 451 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: Kid, you know, appears to be white, but the fact 452 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 3: that he has Native American heritage his father is apparently 453 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: Native American, according to the story, complicates thing from the 454 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: complicates things from the leftist intersectional point of view on 455 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 3: all this, it strikes me that they obviously would would 456 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: have to defer a little bit more if they had 457 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: known about this, but they didn't know, and they went 458 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: after this this young young person. 459 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: In a way. 460 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: Also, it's so obviously bad faith. I think that's why 461 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 3: people have reacted to this the way that they have. 462 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: It is so clearly done in bad faith. That you know, 463 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: the kid has red on one side of his black 464 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: and the other the team colors. We all know exactly 465 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 3: what's going on here. There's no person who can make 466 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 3: the case that this was meant to be a racial mockery, 467 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 3: at least in terms. 468 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: Of the faith paint. 469 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can't get in trouble for dressing up like 470 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: a chief, apparently because his dad is Native American, right, 471 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: so maybe there's there's more leeway because of that. 472 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: But no one thinks that he was doing. 473 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: Blackface and mockery of anyone of you know, anyone who 474 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: is black. And yet they did this anyway, And I 475 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: think that just goes to the mindset of the left 476 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: is always on a search and destroy mission, and I 477 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: think they're trying to push as much as they can, 478 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: as far as they can whatever the rules are that 479 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: they have here to see, well, maybe now we can 480 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 3: tell people, maybe we can get someone on this. You know, 481 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: it sets like a new example of how extreme some 482 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: of these rules are that are constantly changing. 483 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, and also intent matters, and it's like intent doesn't 484 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 4: matter in anything anymore. 485 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: You know. The people who. 486 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 4: Wrote our criminal code years and years ago focus a 487 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: great deal on whether you intend to commit a crime 488 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: or not, or whether you're just engaging in neg negligent behavior. 489 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: How many people out there are legitimately wearing face paint 490 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 4: to change the color of their you know, otherwise skin 491 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 4: right through face paint to ridicule a race at this 492 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: point in time, I mean, I mean, and honestly, nationwide, 493 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: how often does that happen? 494 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: Now? 495 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: People might make decisions to you sometimes see this with 496 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 4: for instance, immigrant children, right Like, if you just suddenly 497 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: moved here from I don't know, Switzerland, and your kid 498 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 4: was dressing up and they were dressing up as a 499 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: black performer, maybe you don't know anything about the history 500 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 4: of blackface, and you're like, Okay, it's Halloween, I'm trying 501 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: to dress somebody up right. My point on this is 502 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: intent should be all that matters. If your intent is 503 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: to be racist and to mean someone based on their race, 504 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: as we have seen frankly a lot of people do 505 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: surrounding the Israeli terror attacks, right attack people based on 506 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 4: their ethnicity, based on their religious based on their religion. 507 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: That should not happen and you should be rightly condemned 508 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 4: for it. But a little kid to costume, I mean, 509 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: who is actually harmed by this? And there's actually now 510 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: buck a video of the kid doing the tomahawk chop 511 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: and members of the Kansas City Chiefs joining with him 512 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: and doing the tomahawk chop on the sideline as they 513 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 4: often do in Arrowhead Stadium where the Kansas City Chiefs 514 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 4: play to celebrate the fact that they beat the Las 515 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: Vegas Raiders. 516 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: So the players aren't. 517 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: Offended by the guy in the big little kid in 518 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 4: the Chiefs head dress with the painted face, they're doing 519 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: the tomahawk job with them. 520 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: I also feel like this is a reminder that to 521 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: be a truly committed leftist you have to you have 522 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: to be willing to go on a search and destroy 523 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: mission for anyone who is like having too much fun. 524 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: You know. 525 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: I think that there is a misery. There's a the 526 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: essence of the malcontent is at the heart of contemporary 527 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: American leftism. These are people who are deeply unhappy, and 528 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: when they see someone who's not from a group that 529 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: they think is victimized or protected having too much fun, 530 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 3: the opportunity to just crush that. I think they jumped Clay, 531 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 3: who gets mad about No, this isn't totally in a vacuum, 532 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 3: to be clear, Yeah, they went after this. Let's call 533 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: him eight year I don't know what his age. His 534 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: eight year old kid dressed up as the Chief and 535 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: his photos everywhere now. 536 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: But people have rallied his defense. 537 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: Same thing when you get into the Halloween costumes every 538 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: year for little kids who objects to that stuff the left, 539 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: they find reasons to say, oh, you know, you can't 540 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: dress up as particularly like the Native American costume. You 541 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: can't dress up as you know, the Native Americans from 542 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: Peter Pan or whatever. 543 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: Can't play cowboys and Indians anymore, dress up for it. 544 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: That's why I think it's so funny the left objects 545 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 4: to little kids dressing up as cowboys and Indians while 546 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: ridiculing anyone who doesn't accept the gender of a grown 547 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: man who decides that he's a woman, and that segues 548 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 4: into something I'm gonna be doing a little bit later 549 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: this evening, Buck. I can't wait to do it. I 550 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 4: think we're gonna have some of these guys on his 551 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 4: guests on Friday. The Daily Wire guys have made a 552 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: comedy called Lady Ballers about a group of guys that 553 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: dress up like women and claim to be a women's 554 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: basketball team in an effort to win a championship. I'm 555 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 4: in the movie. I am coaching a women's basketball team 556 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: that is getting dominated by the boys pretending to be girls. 557 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: So I don't know how my role will be perceived. 558 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: I only have a few lines, but I've never been 559 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: to a movie premiere, So I'm gonna walk the red 560 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 4: carpet with my wife and in the process, Riley Gaines 561 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 4: will also be there. In the process ridicule the idea 562 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: that men could decide to become women's athletes and win championships, 563 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: which is something that I think ninety percent of people 564 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: with functional brains and or sports fans agree with, but 565 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: something that most people at ESPN wouldn't say publicly because 566 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: they're afraid of being called anti trans when the reality 567 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: is be whatever sex you want, but just don't claim 568 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 4: that you're the woman of the year when you decide 569 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: to swim or compete against women in any kind of 570 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 4: poletic of it. 571 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: Eight hundred and two A two two eight two on 572 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: most phone lines give us a call. 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Pure 592 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: talk simply smarter wireless. 593 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: Need a break from politics, a little comedy to counter 594 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: the craziness, So do we The Sunday Hang, a weekend 595 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: podcast to lighten things up a bit. 596 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: Find it in the Clay and Buck podcast feed, on 597 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio appon or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome 598 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 599 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: you hanging out with us. We talked with Julie Kelly 600 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: an hour two. We talked with Vivek Ramaswami at the 601 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 4: top of this hour. Encourage you go subscribe to the podcast. 602 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: Make sure you don't miss a moment of what is 603 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: going on there, and we think that you will continue 604 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: to enjoy it no matter where you are across the country. 605 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: Wanted to mention this. 606 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 4: We talked about Jamie Diamond, the super i would say, 607 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: connected investment guru banker in New York City and he 608 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 4: also is totally enamored of Nikki Haley and he even 609 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: said on CNBC, I believe this was this morning that 610 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 4: he thought liberals should show up in the primary and 611 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: vote for Nicki Haley. 612 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: Listen to what he said. You have an election coming 613 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: up in about a year. 614 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: Ye, what do you think of the two leading candidates 615 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: right now? 616 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: Oh? 617 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 6: God, I'm not you know, I'm not going to tell you. 618 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 6: He did come out make a nice day about Nicki Helly. 619 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: You did, I mean you were talking to Nicky very liberal? 620 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 6: Yes, I have even a very liberal Democrat. I urge you, 621 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 6: you know, help Nicki Helly too, you know, get a 622 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 6: choice on a Republican side that might be better than Trump. 623 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: Jamie Diamond, Liberal Democrats go out and vote, vote for 624 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: Nicki Haley. That might help her in the general. And 625 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: I do think Niki Haley, if she were the nominee, 626 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 4: would win a general election. But this battle for the 627 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: second spot now, and I was looking at the odds 628 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: markets and Nicki Haley has edged up to roughly even 629 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: with with Ron DeSantis. Now, and who's going to come 630 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: into second place in Iowa? We talked about yesterday. We 631 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: opened the show with just the raw math. I question 632 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: whether Nikki Haley could win a Republican primary against Trump. 633 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: But if there were independents as is certainly the case 634 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 4: in New Hampshire, and or Democrats who might show up 635 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 4: given the fact that Democrats don't have a contested primary, 636 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: that could start to get a little bit interesting, Buck, 637 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 4: because that would expand the number of people who might 638 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: be willing to vote. And again, given the fact that 639 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: Democrats right now are not going to have a contested primary. 640 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: It's a lot about sort of the equivalent of what 641 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 4: Rush said back in twenty twenty when Trump was obviously 642 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: running without opposition and Democrats were trying to pick their nominee, 643 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: and he suggested that some Republicans could decide to go 644 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: vote in the Democrat primaries as a part of that process. 645 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: I wonder when I hear Jamie Diamond say that whether 646 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 4: we might have to factor in how exactly the Republican 647 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: primaries are going to go, and whether there might be 648 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 4: more people who show up that are not traditional Republican voters. 649 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: That would be a game changer that could alter the 650 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: math in a way that maybe I hadn't thought about. 651 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's also. 652 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: The third party situation that's going to factor into this, right, 653 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many competing variables. That's why when 654 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: we say things like, well, could the Biden administration's problems 655 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: with the Muslim American community cost the election? Yeah, but 656 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: there are probably twenty other things we could think about 657 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: that may cost them the election. Right, So it's very 658 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: hard in advance of all of this to figure out 659 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: what that one thing is likely to be. But I 660 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 3: do think that you're going to see a lot. I 661 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: know you'll see a lot of gamesmanship around how they're 662 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: going to try to get the most votes they need 663 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 3: in certain places in certain states. And remember there was 664 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: that effort in the twenty twenty two election. We've talked 665 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: about this to help some of the more hard right 666 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: candidates in Congress get wins this primary. Democrats spent money 667 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: to do this. People can dislike that reality, but that 668 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: is what happened. They did that, and most of the 669 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: time they ended up being victorious. I should clear something up. 670 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: I said that was CNBC. That's actually a New York 671 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: Times conference. You could hear people reacting and laughing in 672 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: the background there that Andrew Ross Sorkin was asking a 673 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: question of Jamie Dimond at a New York Times event. 674 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: And Buck, you're right, because that ultimately calls into question 675 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: and ridicule, how illegitimate. The argument is that democracy is 676 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: truly under attack, because if you really believe that, you 677 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't be getting involved in all of these different Republican 678 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: primaries to pick the candidate that you thought was most 679 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 3: likely to lose to the Democrat because you would be 680 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: terrified that the candidate that you supported might actually win. 681 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Democrats are going to be organized 682 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: in that way in some form or fashion, but absent 683 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 3: a competitive primary on their own side, and in particular, 684 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: as you consider, I mean, even if they just told 685 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 3: us that he thinks he's bringing in a lot of 686 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: new voters to the Iowa caucuses, there probably are going 687 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 3: to be a lot of non traditional Republican voters showing 688 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 3: up as a part of Republican primaries and caucuses because 689 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 3: they want to be involved in the political process. But 690 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: there isn't a two way dynamic primary process because Joe Biden, 691 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: at least so far, has managed to avoid all challengers 692 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 3: that might otherwise rise up to threaten him. Although here's 693 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 3: a little bit of a wild card for you, buck. 694 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: We talked about Mark Cuban selling the Dallas Mavericks to 695 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: the Adolsons, the gambling family, Sheldon Adelson. What if Mark 696 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: Cuban decided to run in the Democrat primary against Joe Biden. 697 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: Because I think Mark Cuban has sense of b that 698 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: would suggest that he's kind of a middle of the 699 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 3: road guy. But what if he's just super rich and 700 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 3: he's fed up that nobody is challenging Joe Biden, and 701 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: he decided the way to really kind of reconfigure the 702 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: entire primary process was to spend a billion dollars and 703 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: try to win the Democrat nomination. I don't know what 704 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 3: the deadlines are to file, but while some people are 705 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 3: focused on the idea that he might be running as 706 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 3: a third party, given the relationship with the Adolsons and 707 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: their relationship with Trump, could Mark Cuban be making a 708 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 3: play to be the Democrat nominee in twenty twenty four? 709 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I can't say no, but it feels he's 710 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: basically what Bloomberg did, right, Like Bloomberg suddenly parachutes in 711 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: at the last possible moment and thinks, hey, if I 712 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: spend a billion dollars, I can win this thing. 713 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 4: Most of them traditionally have all done the math and 714 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: said you can't win as a third party candidate. You 715 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: need to be a major party nominee. I'm just tossing 716 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: it out there. Given the Adolson connection, could they think 717 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 4: to themselves, well, we're giving Mark Cuban billions of dollars, 718 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 4: but he's gonna potentially undercut Joe Biden in the process. 719 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 4: I just something to think about that I haven't seen 720 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 4: discussed anywhere else. 721 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 3: Could you're talking about a version of Operation Chaos here, 722 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: my friend. You're talking about people making some big moves 723 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: here to play a little four DJs perhaps and make 724 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 3: it have. 725 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 2: A big effect on the outcome of the election. Oh man, 726 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: we shall. 727 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 3: See, mister Clay, very very intriguing thoughts and processes. Let 728 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 3: us know what you think. Please send us emails for 729 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 3: our VIPs. And man, I can't believe it's already Wednesday. 730 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: Feels like this week is flying by. 731 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 3: Excited to talk to you all tomorrow and play is 732 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: gonna have fun on the red carpet tonight takes a 733 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 3: sam We'll see how it goes.