1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: We have heard for so long promises made, promises kept, 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: and I am so proud to say that I have 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: the United States Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon back with 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: me today to talk about one of those promises made, 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: promises kept. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Secretary, welcome back. 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 3: Thank you, Tutor. It's a pleasure to be with you 9 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 3: again today. 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Well, I am so excited about why you're here because 11 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: you have a big announcement. Just last night you announced 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: that you have something happening with the University of Pennsylvania, 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: and I'm going to let you talk about it. 14 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: Well, I'm very excited and happy to announce what I 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: think is is really a landmark case in a victory 16 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: for the president for the Trump administration, because he announced, 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: you know, or he talked about it when he was campaigning, 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: how unfair he thought it was that men participated in 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: women's swords. So one of the first things he did 20 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: early February when he came into office, so it was 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: to sign this executive order about men not being able 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: to play in women's sports. And shortly thereafter a day 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: or two, I can say that the Office of Civil 24 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: Rights here with the Department of Education took up that. 25 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: Mantle and An investigated the University of Pennsylvania. Now that 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: had been you know, on the docket if you will, 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: during the Biden administration, but the Biden administration didn't do 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: anything about it. They just kind of ignored it. But 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: we decided this was something we absolutely should take up. 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: This was the case if you recall where Riley Gains 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: was competing against Leah Thomas and swimming at the University 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania and tied with Leah in their race, and 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: Riley left without a trophy, but she competed against a 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: man that she should have gotten. If it had been 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: a woman, she would have been far ahead in that race. 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: So that really became a landmark case, you know, for 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: discussion in the country, one that we focused then on 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: with the University of Pennsylvania. And then Paula Scanlon, who 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: also was on the swimming team and testified before Congress. 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: You know that the women on the team were actually 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: given psychological counseling on how to change in their intimate 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: spaces and locker rooms in front of men. 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: That is shocking, It is that was shocking. It is 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: clearly unfair. 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: It flies in the face of common sense, and it 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: is a clear violation of Title nin and so our 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: investigation and through our negotiations back and forth with the 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: University of Pennsylvania, they signed the resolution and now men 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: will not compete in women's sports at the University of Pennsylvania. 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: They have also agreed to send a letter of apology 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: to the women who were on the sports teams that 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: men played against. They you know, they've also agreed that 53 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: they're going to send notification to any of the people 54 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: that they deal with, contractors or whatever that this is 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: how the University of Pennsylvania is going to do business. 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: So I am really very very pleased with this outcome, 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: and it's a great victory for women to compete against 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: women in their sports. You know, women and girls fought 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: so hard for Title nind to be able to have 60 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: access to sports and to be able to have access 61 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: to the comparable training rooms, et cetera. And then to 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: have that kind of yanked out from under them by 63 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: this interpretation of sideline was just wrong. And I'm very 64 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: happy you know where we are today. 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: Well, and Madam Secretary, I just want to say that 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: as we saw Donald Trump building his cabinet, I knew 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: that he had picked the right person when he put 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: you in charge of the Department of Ed, because I 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: knew you would be a champion for girls. I know 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: what sports mean to you, and I know what fairness 71 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: means to you. And as you were just talking about this, 72 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: and you're saying these girls underwent psychological testing, I mean, really, 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: what we're taught talking about is a university behind the 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: scenes that was using psychological techniques to almost brainwash these 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: women into saying this is acceptable. You need to accept 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: this and put yourself aside. This is a clear violation 77 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: of Title nine. And this is just the beginning. But 78 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: I am so impressed that here we are, just really 79 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: a few months into this administration, and you have already 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: been able to accomplish this. This announcement to me is 81 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: very big. I'm a mother of four girls. 82 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: To me, this is a huge announcement coming out of 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: the Department of ED. 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: Well, it certainly is. And if Donald Trump had not 85 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: been elected president, you would not see this action being taken. 86 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: But as I said, he campaigned on this, he was 87 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: true to his word, and when he had the signing 88 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: of this executive order in the East Room in the 89 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: White House. He was surrounded by girls and women of 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: all ages, and he was very proud to assign this 91 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: executive order. And I'm really pleased with the investigation that 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: we have undertaken and that the University of Pennsylvania. Hopefully 93 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: this settlement and this agreement will become kind of their 94 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: prototype for the universities to come on board and to 95 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: make sure that they are adhering or you know, we 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: will continue investigating other universities just like we did Pennsylvania. 97 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Is this connected to federal funding? Why why have they 98 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: agreed to this? 99 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: Because to me, when I look at this and I 100 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: say they're going to restore all records, titles, and any 101 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: recognition to female athletes that were taken from them by 102 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: male athletes, that is something I think all of us thought. 103 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: No matter what happens, the records are permanently damaged. And 104 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: how can any woman compete against the past when the 105 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: past is not accurate? And yet you have accomplished this, 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: you will restore that in this agreement. How did you 107 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: get them to agree to this? 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: Well, certainly the big club is federal funding, and there 109 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: was approximately one hundred and seventy five million dollars at 110 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: so and so, now that funding of which came you know, 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: from a couple of different agencies other than the Department 112 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: of Education, you know, will be restored. Predominant amount of 113 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: it was from AJHS. So we're we're happy that that 114 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: funding will be restored. But also we are saying we 115 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: mean business and the federal government does have the right 116 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: to withhold funding if you're not in compliance, and we 117 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: will not take any of those tools off the table. 118 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: I think that's something that we need to make sure 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: people understand because there will be criticism, Oh, this is 120 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: some sort of extortion. You only get this money if 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: you do this. This is protecting women. I mean Title 122 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: nine has been in effect since the seventies, and yet 123 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: we are still here today in twenty twenty five fighting 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: for it. 125 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: And I want to be clear, this is if. 126 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: You cannot comply with law, you cannot have the taxpayers money. 127 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Isn't that correct? Correct? 128 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: We definitely are very serious about enforcing Title nine. It 129 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: is the law, and girls shouldn't have to be competing 130 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: in sports in which they are afraid they're going to 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: be hurt or they know that it's not a level 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: playing field. Boys are bigger and stronger and faster, and 133 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: they have an unfair advantage. And also, you know, they 134 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: need to feel safe in the sorts that they're competing against, 135 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: not worried are they going to get their face smashed 136 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: by volleyball or you know that other things are going 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: to be happening to them. I mean, Stephanie Turner took 138 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: a knee rather than participate in her fencing competition. She 139 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: was going to be competing against the boy and she 140 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: knew that was not fair, and she was afraid and 141 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: she took a knee. Women and girls should not be 142 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: put in those positions. We fought so hard with Title nine, 143 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: you know, to gain access to women's sports in a 144 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: fair playing field than and equal training facilities. And now 145 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: to just have that kind of yanked way for this 146 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: interpretation is wrong. The courts have ruled that it's wrong 147 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: and the Title nine should be interpreted as Britain that 148 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: women have access to their sources, facilities, et cetera. And 149 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: it's based on sex. 150 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: So this is kind of a landmark agreement that you 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: have with the University of Pennsylvania. I mean, we're even 152 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: talking about they now have to accept biology based definitions 153 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: for the words male and female. 154 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: To me, that is groundbreaking. 155 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: And I say that knowing that ten years ago that 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: would be a ridiculous statement, but that's where we are today. 157 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: But I say that also knowing that this is one 158 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: school of many. So how does the Department of Ed 159 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: tackle the entire country that has gone woke and has 160 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: taken away sports from so many women and trophies from 161 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: so many women. 162 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully this landmark case with the University of Pennsylvania 163 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: is going to be the roadmap for other universities to follow. 164 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: And they don't know we're serious because there is a 165 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: fair amount of federal money for many of these universities, 166 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: and if they are receiving federal funding, then they have 167 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: to know that that funding can be frozen or taken 168 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: away if they are not in compliance with the law. 169 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: What was it like when you were able to sit 170 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: down with some of these female athletes like Riley Gaines 171 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: and say this is what's going to happen. You're going 172 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: to be there alongside us when we make this announcement. 173 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: Riley has fought so hard for this. I know that 174 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: the other women that were there as well. Paula has 175 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: also fought so hard for this. 176 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: What was their reaction to this. 177 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: Well, I know that they are thrilled to know that 178 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: finally action has been taken and that their messaging has 179 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 3: not gone in vain. All of the miles they've traveled, 180 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: all the interviews that they have done, all of the 181 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: counseling that they have done to young women and two 182 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: girls has not been in vain, and that they now 183 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: have some not just wind at their back, they certainly 184 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: have been confirmed that they were on the right track 185 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: and that their motives and their actions are justified. 186 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: Absolutely, so, I just want to reiterate this is a 187 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: landmark agreement that we're announcing today. 188 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: This is just fresh off of the press. Really, this 189 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: is just happening, breaking news. 190 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: The University of Pennsylvania will restore all records, titles, and 191 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: recognitions to female athletes. They will issue a public statement 192 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: that says they will comply with Title nine and that 193 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: it will be specifically to they won't allow men to 194 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: compete in women's sports. They will also adopt biology based 195 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: definitions for the words male and female. They will rescind 196 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: all guidance that violates our air or is inconsistent with 197 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: Title nine, and they will send personalized apology letters to 198 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: each swimmer, each female swimmer who was impacted by this. 199 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: Secretary McMahon, you did this. You and President Trump, I 200 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: know you will keep fighting. This is a a huge 201 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: moment for women across the country, but it's a huge 202 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: moment for this administration. I just want to close getting 203 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: your feelings on what it's like to be a part 204 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: of this and stand next to the President in such 205 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: an important moment. 206 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's incredibly exciting to be able to do exactly 207 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: what he said he was going to do. And I 208 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: want to commend the Department of Education and our Office 209 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: of Civil Rights for working so hard on this investigation 210 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: and for developing this agreement with the University of Pennsylvania. 211 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we cannot be more thrilled. I'm so glad that 212 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: you came on today to share it with us. Thank 213 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: you so much, Secretary Linda McMahon. 214 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: Thank you. 215 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: It was so nice to have Secretary Linda McMahon joining 216 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: us today to share this important information. But I want 217 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: to thank you all for joining us on the Tutor 218 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: Dixon podcast too. For this episode and others. Go to 219 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: Tutor disonpodcast dot com. 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