WEBVTT - TechStuff Tidbits: Content Farms and Clickbait

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tex Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and how the tech area for today's text stuff tidbits.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the new thing I'm doing on Wednesdays where I

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<v Speaker 1>do a shorter topic. I thought I would talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about content farms and click bait, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think of these as kind of like cousins. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with the concept of content farms. Now, to understand

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<v Speaker 1>how content farms became a thing, it's necessary to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about web advertising and search engines because those are the

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<v Speaker 1>two components that made content farms a viable business idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the super short version of web advertising. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>it involves making deal with some sort of advertising entity

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<v Speaker 1>where that entity will give you money in exchange for

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<v Speaker 1>allowing the entity to put up advertising on your site

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<v Speaker 1>in some way. Now, usually that money is actually contingent

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<v Speaker 1>upon some other criteria, not just that you allow them

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<v Speaker 1>to take up landscape, because that's just not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>If no one ever goes to your web page, then

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<v Speaker 1>the ad is doing nothing. It's it's like if you

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<v Speaker 1>put a billboard up in the middle of the Sahara

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<v Speaker 1>desert where nobody goes. So web advertising quickly adopted a

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<v Speaker 1>few different models, and I'll give a few examples. So

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<v Speaker 1>one was just based on page views, so the advertiser

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<v Speaker 1>would get data about how many people had visited that

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<v Speaker 1>web page in a given amount of time, and they

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<v Speaker 1>might also get a little more data such as, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how much time the average person spent on the page.

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<v Speaker 1>And generally speaking, the more people who visit, the longer

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<v Speaker 1>that they stay on a page, the more valuable the

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<v Speaker 1>page is uh and the more likely they are, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>to encounter or even perhaps act upon advertising. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of different concepts wrapped up in here.

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<v Speaker 1>You would typically have a uh, you know, a per

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<v Speaker 1>thousand deal for views. So you might say like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll pay you five dollars per thousand views this

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<v Speaker 1>web page gets, because that means one thousand times people

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<v Speaker 1>saw are at You also had the concept of how

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<v Speaker 1>much you could demand for those thousand views, right if

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<v Speaker 1>people you know, if you could show that people come

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<v Speaker 1>to your page and they spend twenty minutes on it,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be phenomenal. That would be an incredibly long

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<v Speaker 1>time for someone to spend on a web page that's

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<v Speaker 1>not say a social network platform or something like YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you could demand higher prices for those thousand views,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas if people you would come to your page and

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<v Speaker 1>then almost immediately bounce, you would probably only be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get a small amount per a thousand views. So

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<v Speaker 1>all of that factors in right. And of course there

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<v Speaker 1>are other advertising models as well, uh, such as ones

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<v Speaker 1>that pay out not on page views but on user

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<v Speaker 1>actions such as clicking through the ad to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a related product or service page, or in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>actually making a purchase following such an action, So like,

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<v Speaker 1>not only did they click through the ad, they bought something,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where the revenue comes from for the person

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<v Speaker 1>who's allowing the ad to be on their page. So

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<v Speaker 1>that forms the basis of making revenue on the web

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<v Speaker 1>at that basic level. There are obviously many other ways

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but generally speaking, the web advertisement side

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<v Speaker 1>is the revenue side. The search engine bit that's the

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<v Speaker 1>discovery side, that's the opportunity, that's how you get the

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<v Speaker 1>people to your stuff. And if we get meta and

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<v Speaker 1>we start looking at web traffic, we can actually start

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<v Speaker 1>to see what people are looking for. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>know what folks are looking for, then you can try

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<v Speaker 1>and meet that need. So there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>web analytics out there where you can actually find things

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<v Speaker 1>like how many people searched for a certain term, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's Google trends right where you can look and see

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<v Speaker 1>what people are looking for. And if a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are looking for something and there aren't a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great options to go to to see that something,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an opportunity there. Well, this is interesting because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I you can call me a content creator. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that term. I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>use it, but it seems so like, uh, robotic to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's no there's no humanity in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>terms content creator as far as I can tell. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm just projecting too much. Anyway, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>of someone who creates stuff on the web, they might

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<v Speaker 1>come at that from one of many different ways. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they they're doing it because they have a true passion

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever it is they do, and they just follow

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<v Speaker 1>that passion and that's why they're creating the thing they create. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that to me feels really you know, pure and lovely

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<v Speaker 1>and I love seeing those kinds of people on the

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<v Speaker 1>web and I love seeing them flourish. There are others

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<v Speaker 1>who they want to create. They don't have a specific

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<v Speaker 1>passion they want to follow, but they want to create

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<v Speaker 1>because they think think that's the way they want to

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<v Speaker 1>make a living. And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not saying that this is lesser than So

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<v Speaker 1>they're not necessarily following their passion for any particular topic. Rather,

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<v Speaker 1>they are looking to see what topics are people interested in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they go out to cover those topics in

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<v Speaker 1>order to meet that need. Like they think, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>can't I be the person to create this thing that

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<v Speaker 1>people want to see? And again, there's nothing wrong with that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a different method of going about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't know. I don't know. I consider myself

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<v Speaker 1>more of the first category than the second category. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how sustainable that is over the long run, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you would burn out faster if

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<v Speaker 1>you were just constantly trying to meet the the needs

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<v Speaker 1>of your identified audience. Anyway, this would mean that sites

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<v Speaker 1>what could do things like, uh, look around at analytics

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<v Speaker 1>and see that maybe people are looking for information about

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<v Speaker 1>how to, I don't know, hook up a toe hitch

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<v Speaker 1>to a truck. I'm not giving that example for any

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<v Speaker 1>specific reason, but if you ask me about it in person,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you the specific reason. Anyway, you then decide

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna make a dash for creating an online resource

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<v Speaker 1>that at least claims to show how to hook up

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<v Speaker 1>a toe hitch to a truck. And you know that

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<v Speaker 1>since people are searching for it, they're bound to find

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<v Speaker 1>yours because you already saw that there's actually a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of resources out there. Now, remember this is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more than a decade ago at this point, But creating

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<v Speaker 1>the piece not isn't that necessarily enough on its own?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, you know, just because you wrote something doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's going to rank well. So you also need

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that piece shows up pretty high up

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<v Speaker 1>in search results. So you practice something called search engine

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<v Speaker 1>optimization or SEO, and you use a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 1>strategies to give your page a good chance to rank

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<v Speaker 1>high on search results on engines like Google. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you would probably only focus on Google because so much

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<v Speaker 1>search traffic goes through the Google engine. If the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the people are using Google to search stuff, then

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes sense to focus your efforts there. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to go and focus on smaller search engines

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<v Speaker 1>because even if you did well, you'd still only be

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<v Speaker 1>getting a fraction of the traffic that Google could send you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you focus on Google. Back in the day, Google

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<v Speaker 1>was actually you know, easy to gamify, easy, being in

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<v Speaker 1>quotation marks easier, I guess I should say, and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, most folks don't ever bother to go

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the first page of search results. In fact, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people never bother to scroll down below what

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<v Speaker 1>is called the fold. So if you know, whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>see on your on your page when you first do

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<v Speaker 1>a search result, anything below the bottom of the screen

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<v Speaker 1>that's called below the fold, it would require you to

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<v Speaker 1>scroll down to see it. A lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>even bother to do that. So you definitely want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in those first couple of results. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>get your article about toe hitches to rank up there,

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<v Speaker 1>you're almost guaranteed to capture a ton of traffic from

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are looking that information up and through

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<v Speaker 1>web advertisements on your page about toe hitches, you can

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<v Speaker 1>generate revenue as more and more people come to the page. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just one little topic. Obviously you couldn't make a

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<v Speaker 1>living off of that. But what if you could scale

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<v Speaker 1>that operation up like big time, Like what if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to hire dozens of writers at a pretty low

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<v Speaker 1>rate of pay. In fact, some content farms would outsource

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<v Speaker 1>articles to writers in countries like the Philippines, where it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't uncommon for folks to make just a dollar an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>One person said she averaged between five and ten dollars

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<v Speaker 1>an hour writing articles and managed on average to have

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<v Speaker 1>an output of about one article per hour. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there are other content farms that would pay more by

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<v Speaker 1>the word, and that could range like three to five

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<v Speaker 1>cents a word, and that would be for the higher

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<v Speaker 1>paid writers. Of others who were entry level, they might

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<v Speaker 1>be getting a little bit of like a penny and

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<v Speaker 1>a fraction per word. So there is an incentive to

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<v Speaker 1>generate a lot of words, right, because that's how you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid. If that's the metric. So some would do

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<v Speaker 1>a per article basis, some would do an hourly basis,

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<v Speaker 1>some would do per word basis. In the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>in two simply hired the average content writer makes around

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four thousand dollars per year today. Uh. Now, keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind we're also talking about era where content farms

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<v Speaker 1>are not nearly the thing they were a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty four thousand dollars is a hair under the annual

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<v Speaker 1>median personal income for folks in America, so it means

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<v Speaker 1>you would actually be below the median for income. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I should add that this is from again a post

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<v Speaker 1>content farm perspective. Back in the content farm days, the

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<v Speaker 1>content writer average was probably a little bit lower. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you can hire a bunch of writers

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<v Speaker 1>for really low wages, so you have a fairly low overhead,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, maybe they make money on a per

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<v Speaker 1>article basis. Maybe part of their compensation is related to

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<v Speaker 1>revenue generated by the article, so that they get essentially

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<v Speaker 1>residuals if the article is really popular. That did happen

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<v Speaker 1>in the cont farm days, at least in some content farms.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't applicable to every writer for every content farm,

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<v Speaker 1>but it did happen. So folks who you know, managed

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<v Speaker 1>to hit on something that really did well, they could

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<v Speaker 1>actually potentially make money. A sort of a long tail

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<v Speaker 1>kind of revenue generator where over time they would get

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<v Speaker 1>residual checks, usually not a lot per article, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you write a lot of articles and several of them

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<v Speaker 1>are hits, it could be a nice little source of money. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the goal is to build out a very large operation

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<v Speaker 1>with relatively low overhead, and you just churn out articles

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<v Speaker 1>based upon web traffic patterns. So it's not that you're

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<v Speaker 1>a website that has a focus, right. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>the the antithesis of a content farm, Like you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>typically find a content farm about a specific topic. No,

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<v Speaker 1>content farms would tackle anything and everything largely based upon

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<v Speaker 1>analysis of web traffic. They would flood the Internet with

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<v Speaker 1>tons of articles about stuff where there was a perceived

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<v Speaker 1>gap of information, which again represented an opportunity. The term

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<v Speaker 1>content farm frequently implies that the actual content on the

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<v Speaker 1>site in question is of inferior quality, that, in an

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<v Speaker 1>effort to minimize costs while maximizing effect, writers spew out

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<v Speaker 1>hastily written pieces, perhaps poorly researched, or even just playing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong or useless. Because the goal isn't to produce good work,

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<v Speaker 1>The goal is just to fill those niches in search

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<v Speaker 1>results in order to capture the traffic. This was all

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<v Speaker 1>about pouncing on opportunities that opened up through search, and

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<v Speaker 1>for the writers, particularly those who were paid on a

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<v Speaker 1>per article basis, the motivation was to write more assignments

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<v Speaker 1>to make more money. It was a machine for generating

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<v Speaker 1>substandard work. That's not to say that every piece written

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<v Speaker 1>for a content farm was bad, or that the people

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<v Speaker 1>writing for content farms were ad or sloppy writers. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them are quite good. But rather I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to say the nature of the business put very little

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<v Speaker 1>emphasis on quality and a whole lot more emphasis on quantity.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna take a quick break, and when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, we will talk a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about content farms and then click bait. One thing I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mention before the break is something else the content

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<v Speaker 1>farms became notorious for, which was stealing content from other sites.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's cheaper than paying someone to write an article,

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<v Speaker 1>taking someone else's article, stripping it of some details, and

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<v Speaker 1>then putting it up on your site. In fact, on

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<v Speaker 1>more than one occasion, I would come across one of

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<v Speaker 1>my own articles that I had written for house stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com and I would see that my name

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<v Speaker 1>had been taken off the article, but it was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>my article, like word for word, not even you know, paraphrase,

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<v Speaker 1>but literally just copy and pasted and would even include

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<v Speaker 1>in many cases illustrations that came out of our office.

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<v Speaker 1>We had artists working in our office who would make illustrations,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would even see like how stuff works written

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<v Speaker 1>on the illustrations. In some cases, it was a blatant

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<v Speaker 1>case of plagiarism, and that in itself was difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with because it was popping up all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was popping up faster than you could take

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<v Speaker 1>action on it. Now, this whole content farm strategy worked

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as ranking and search could be gamified.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you could reliably get into those top

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<v Speaker 1>search results, then this was open season. Rushing to fill

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<v Speaker 1>the voids would pay off, with some sites ballooning to

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<v Speaker 1>thousands or hundreds of thousands of articles, and dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>new articles would launch every single day, all in an

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<v Speaker 1>effort to dominate search. There was no there's no even

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<v Speaker 1>pretense that these were sites that were trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>people to go to the site on their own and

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<v Speaker 1>then just kind of browse around. Everything on the site

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<v Speaker 1>was engineered to be something that would show up in search,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how they would get their traffic. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to also say this, when I work for How

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works, a lot of our traffic came in through search.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned out that a lot of people were finding

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<v Speaker 1>our articles through search, so we were benefiting from the

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<v Speaker 1>search stuff just like content farms were. We weren't operating

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<v Speaker 1>like a content farm. Heck, I would write when I started,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I wrote one article every two weeks because

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<v Speaker 1>I would have one full week to research and right

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<v Speaker 1>a draft of the article, and I would turn it

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<v Speaker 1>in on a Friday, and I would have the following

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<v Speaker 1>week to revise that article, while I would start a

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<v Speaker 1>second article like the next new one. Uh and on

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<v Speaker 1>the second Friday that's when the article I had been

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<v Speaker 1>working on would go live on the site. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a content farm. Like a content farm is churning

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<v Speaker 1>out articles way faster with very little regard to the

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<v Speaker 1>quality of the work. This was great in the short

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<v Speaker 1>term for content farms that you know they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to to get this much traffic, like the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to gamify the system and to get

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of writers to create hundreds of articles in

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<v Speaker 1>a short amount of time. It was a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to make money. Uh, it wasn't great, but it could

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<v Speaker 1>be good for the writers, depending upon you know which

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<v Speaker 1>outlets they were working for and what their pay rates

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<v Speaker 1>were for those are outlets. Uh. And it was not

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<v Speaker 1>great for everybody else because it would mean that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you would be searching for something and you might land

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<v Speaker 1>on a page that, more likely than not, isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>very good quality for whatever it was that you were

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<v Speaker 1>searching for. And it was really really not great for

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<v Speaker 1>Google because Google was having to deal with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>the users were getting disenchanted after encountering so many garbage

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<v Speaker 1>articles that were ranking in Google Search. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was making Google Search appeared to be unreliable because the

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<v Speaker 1>destinations you were going to we're pretty crappy. So in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I can talk about this now. Um way

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, who I was still a writer

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<v Speaker 1>for how stuff works dot com, there was a point

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<v Speaker 1>where Google representatives actually reached out to me asking if

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<v Speaker 1>how Stuff Works might produce articles in specific areas because

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<v Speaker 1>the search engine needed to direct people to higher quality articles.

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<v Speaker 1>So they actually handed me a list of topics that

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<v Speaker 1>they said we need we need better version articles out

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<v Speaker 1>there because the ones that people are finding are terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>While the articles on how stuff works dot Com were

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<v Speaker 1>and are heavily researched, and the writing staff, like I

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<v Speaker 1>said that, you know, we mainly came from English degrees, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We all studied English lit or or something along those lines,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and we all had backgrounds in research and

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<v Speaker 1>writing papers with citations and all that kind of fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So Google is trying to push back a bit against

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<v Speaker 1>content farms and to touch base with more respected sites

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<v Speaker 1>to provide higher quality articles that wouldn't be such a

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<v Speaker 1>dragged land on when someone searched for those terms. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that was potentially an incredibly valuable thing for me to

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<v Speaker 1>receive as someone who produces content. Uh, I mean for

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<v Speaker 1>a search engine to actually say, hey, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>folks are really looking for articles about this stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're finding trash. That meant that there was this huge

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to write better stuff. However, I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the topics Google handed to us just

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<v Speaker 1>weren't really how stuff works material. I don't mean they

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<v Speaker 1>were like salacious or anything like that, just that they

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<v Speaker 1>were a bit too niche and mundane and like, there'd

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<v Speaker 1>be no reason to write a how stuff works style

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<v Speaker 1>article on most of those topics. So while it represents

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<v Speaker 1>it an opportunity, we didn't actually really take advantage of it. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Google would later revise its search algorithm to really deal

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<v Speaker 1>with this issue of junk articles more directly. Uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>was more than a decade ago. Like, in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>this happened maybe five years ago, but it's because I

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<v Speaker 1>have lost all concept of time. But no, it happened

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand eleven when Google launched the Panda algorithm,

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<v Speaker 1>actually named after one of the Google engineers. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of the Panda algorithm was to promote high quality

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<v Speaker 1>sites over junk sites. So if you did a search

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<v Speaker 1>and results were coming up, the search algorithm would now

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<v Speaker 1>UH promote the higher quality sites over the lower quality ones.

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<v Speaker 1>They would rank higher in search. So if you look

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<v Speaker 1>for an article about I don't know chicken salad, whichever

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<v Speaker 1>site Google considered to be the most high quality would

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<v Speaker 1>rank highest. Sites Google identified as hosting thousands of low

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<v Speaker 1>quality articles would get punished by the algorithm UM, often

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<v Speaker 1>totally site wide. So even if that site hosted a

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<v Speaker 1>few really good articles and a lot of content farms

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<v Speaker 1>had really good articles. Even if it had really good articles,

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<v Speaker 1>if the site was mostly filled up with junk articles,

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna get dinged across the board. So this

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge blow to content farms. Google also released

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<v Speaker 1>a blog post about the algorithm, explaining the criteria that

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<v Speaker 1>they used to determine if a site merits the designation

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<v Speaker 1>of high quality, and it was stuff like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>went to the site and you read the article, would

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you could trust what the article had

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<v Speaker 1>to say or would the content and presentation of the

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<v Speaker 1>information make you distrust the article. It also looked into

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like whether or not experts or highly qualified writers

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<v Speaker 1>were contributing to the piece. A lot of content farms

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<v Speaker 1>gave little to no information about the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>actually writing the articles, so that would be a blow

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<v Speaker 1>against them. If the site contained a lot of duplicate

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<v Speaker 1>or overlapping article topics where you know, you're just blasting

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a hundred articles about towing, uh, that could ding

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<v Speaker 1>you pretty bad. Now. The Penguin algorithm would follow in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve, and that algorithm aimed at sites that

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<v Speaker 1>created what we're called unnatural back links. Now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into all of that, except to say

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<v Speaker 1>one of the factors that Google's search algorithm would take

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<v Speaker 1>into account back in the day was how many links

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<v Speaker 1>are aiming at a particular web page that pops up

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<v Speaker 1>for a particular search query. So again, let's say the

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<v Speaker 1>search queries chicken salad, and the Google algorithm starts crawling

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<v Speaker 1>the web and pulling all the different hits that relate

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<v Speaker 1>to chicken salad. One of the things that would look

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<v Speaker 1>at is say, how many other sites linked to this

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<v Speaker 1>page about chicken salad. If a lot of sites are

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<v Speaker 1>linking to this page age, then that seems to indicate

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a good page, that it's it's good enough

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<v Speaker 1>to convince other people, Hey, I'm gonna link to this

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<v Speaker 1>because it's worthwhile. And thus Google would draw the conclusion,

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<v Speaker 1>or rather the algorithm would draw the conclusion that this

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<v Speaker 1>must be a better result because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are linking to it. But you could gamify that. You

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<v Speaker 1>can just create tons of back links to your individual pages,

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<v Speaker 1>and by linking to everything, you would appear to boost

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<v Speaker 1>this metric, and Google Search would then say, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>must be a good article because look at how many

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<v Speaker 1>links are aiming into it. Penguin was meant to fight

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<v Speaker 1>against that. Penguin, as far as I know, was not

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<v Speaker 1>named after the Google engineer like Panda was, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>both Panda and Penguin were mostly made moot when Google

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<v Speaker 1>launched Hummingbird. Now Penguin and Panda were kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>patching the search algorithm. Hummingbird was a total overhaul to

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<v Speaker 1>Google's search algorithm, and this was also the era where

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<v Speaker 1>you would hear about sites really taking a big hit

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<v Speaker 1>because they had been so dependent upon search traffic, and

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<v Speaker 1>when Google changed the way it handled search results, even

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<v Speaker 1>sites that were considered respectable and high quality ended up

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<v Speaker 1>seeing an enormous change in their traffic from search. And

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<v Speaker 1>when that's how you've based your entire mode of operations

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<v Speaker 1>for years, it's incredibly disruptive. It's also one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why people who have been in content creation for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time stress the importance that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>put all of your eggs in one basket, right Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't put everything that you work on and have

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<v Speaker 1>it depend upon YouTube, because if you did, and Google

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<v Speaker 1>changes the YouTube algorithm and stops suggesting your videos to people,

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<v Speaker 1>who are interested in stuff that you cover. Well, then

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly you your videos just starting getting views anymore. Your

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<v Speaker 1>traffic just dies. This has happened time and time again.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it happens almost cyclically. So this was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a big reminder here the Google search changes. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a big reminder that depending upon a different party

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<v Speaker 1>and their performance to make your business work is incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>risky because if that other party goes out of business

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<v Speaker 1>or changes the way it does things, that has a

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<v Speaker 1>direct impact on you. It's crazy to me how many

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<v Speaker 1>businesses went through that and did not appear to learn

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<v Speaker 1>from that lesson. But anyway, Okay, we've got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more to say about content farms and than clickbait.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I get into all that, let's take another

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. Alright. So Google makes these changes to its

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<v Speaker 1>search algorithm, and immediately there's an enormous impact. Traffic to

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<v Speaker 1>sites like content farms dropped dramatically. For one UH company

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<v Speaker 1>that was known for making content farms also sometimes called

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<v Speaker 1>content mills, they saw drop in traffic across all their sites,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty dramatic. Most people just weren't navigating to sites

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<v Speaker 1>like ehal and browsing. I mean again, like it showed

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<v Speaker 1>that the sites were not destinations on their own. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>was typing in ehal dot com and going to it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were finding stuff through search, and when search stopped

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting it, the traffic really died out. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those sites ended up shutting down. Not Ehal that

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<v Speaker 1>one's stuck around, but again their traffic was hurt pretty badly.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you don't here quite as much about content farms

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<v Speaker 1>these days, though you could argue they still exist, they

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<v Speaker 1>just evolved. Um, but you do hear about clickbait. That

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<v Speaker 1>term originated from a blog post written by a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Jay Geiger back in two thousand six, and the

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<v Speaker 1>name pretty much tells you everything you need to know

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<v Speaker 1>about what clickbait is. It's something that you see that

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<v Speaker 1>tempts you to click on it. It lures you in

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<v Speaker 1>like bait does on a on a hook. Now, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that clickbait comes in the form of a provocative thumbnail

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<v Speaker 1>for a YouTube video, usually coupled with an equally provocative title.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just an outlandish headline for a news article.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it appears to answer a question that you could

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<v Speaker 1>have sworn has no answer, and the concept of clickbait

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<v Speaker 1>is of course, way way older than the Internet. The

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<v Speaker 1>same basic idea was used more than a century ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when various newspapers, most of which we're having some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of dubious reputation, would rely upon sensationalized headlines in order

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<v Speaker 1>to sell papers. So this was the era of yellow journalism.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, back then the goal was to convince

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<v Speaker 1>people to hand over some of their money to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a paper. But the basics remain the same. You use

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<v Speaker 1>tried and true methods to convince folks to take an action,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that action, in this case is just clicking

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<v Speaker 1>through a link. This typically involves appealing to some pretty

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>basic human traits. Frequently I see clickbait used in the

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<v Speaker 1>context of a sort of bait and switch, that being

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thing that lures you in, and it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that the thing that lured you in isn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>present in the thing you really encounter. Golly, I've seen

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>bait and switches a lot these days, and in fact,

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>they pop up in my Google alerts, which is really frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got an Android phone and I a little notifications

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<v Speaker 1>about stuff that I might be interested in. Those of

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you who have listened to large Nerdroun Collider know that

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I do a podcast about geeky pop culture stuff, so

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I get a lot of geeky pop culture headlines that

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<v Speaker 1>pop up, including a ton that try to push me

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<v Speaker 1>towards sites that aren't actually news sites. There's one in

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<v Speaker 1>particular that's a YouTube channel that supposedly has trailers for

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff well before anyone else does. Except they're not real trailers.

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>They're fake trailers. They're trailers that are cobbled together from

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>footage from other stuff and presented as if it's a

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>legit trailer for some either upcoming or even unannounced project. Uh,

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's popping up in my notifications. That's definitely a

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>bait and switch. I've also seen things where people have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of taken a click bade approach to stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>a SMR videos. Now I've been watching a SMR videos

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<v Speaker 1>for a really long time. Law of time listeners will

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>remember I once interviewed a s MR artist, Heather Feather,

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>who hasn't been active in a few years, but was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the pioneers really in the a s m

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>R field back in the day. Well, a lot of

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>those videos now have thumbnails that are meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>extremely provocative in some way or another. Uh, some of

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>which are kind of sexualized, some of which appear to

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<v Speaker 1>suggest violence. It's kind of crazy when you think that

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>a SMR is really supposed to be about like relaxing

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and and chilling out, and I see these videos like this.

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<v Speaker 1>This doesn't seem to be sending the message of chilling

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<v Speaker 1>out to me. But whatever. Anyway, a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>just means that these artists are following one of are

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<v Speaker 1>seen to be best practices. They are the way to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to click. So it's not necessarily that they

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this, or at least not that they,

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, set out to do this, but rather this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the ways where you stand out and

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<v Speaker 1>you get people to click on your work and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it, even though the work may not be reflective

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever you use to lure them in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the danger, right If you feel that the thing

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<v Speaker 1>you are served is not the same thing you were promised,

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you're likely to be a little upset. But I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, traffic amounts to revenue, so you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get folks in the door, and the Internet is a

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<v Speaker 1>vast treasure trove of content. Some of that content is

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<v Speaker 1>good or even really good, a lot of it's mediocre,

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and some of it is really bad, and it could

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<v Speaker 1>be stuff. It would be really tough to stand out,

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>even if you are putting out great, great content, so

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you've got to use all the tricks you can. It's

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>something I've never been particularly good at. Now. There are

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a few other related things we can chat about briefly

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of fall into these content buckets, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>content farm or click bait. A big one of those,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in my mind, are quizzes and galleries. You

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>don't see that as often. There's still some sites that

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<v Speaker 1>take the gallery approach, and I hate it, but I

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>understand why it's happening, just like I understand why quizzes

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>are so popular. So the reason why quizzes and galleries

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>are beloved by content farm like entities is that they

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>represent a potentially large number of clicks for a potentially

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>low investment. Like let's talk about a quiz. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>a quiz is twenty questions long, but the way you

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<v Speaker 1>make the quiz is that each question is its own

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<v Speaker 1>little web page, and you choose like maybe it's a

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>multiple choice answer. You choose your multiple choice answer, you

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>hit next, and then you get the next question. Now,

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>in your experience, what you're doing is you're just answering

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>questions and getting the next one. But what's going on,

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, from a business perspective, is that every single

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>time you're answering a question, jen you're loading a new

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>web page. Every time you load a new web page,

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's an opportunity to serve you and add and every

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>time you keep on going through those quizzes, uh, then

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you start ranking up those page views. It's a great

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>way for page views to go through the roof very quickly.

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>If you write really good quizzes, and by good I

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<v Speaker 1>mean sticky, like people want to answer them. They'll go

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<v Speaker 1>on and they'll start taking the next quiz after they

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>get the first one, and they'll just keep on going

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and those numbers keep on going up. So that is

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>incredibly attractive to websites that that host a lot of content.

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>It means that they, you know, if they're getting their

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>web advertising based on page views, then that's a way

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>to really drive those page views up. Same with galleries,

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>where it would be like a slide show where you've

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>got a picture and then you hit next. Well, it's

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>not just that it's reloading a new picture, right, You're

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>not just getting a new photo. That's actually counting as

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>a whole new page view. So from an advertising perspective,

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you just went from someone who gave one page view

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to two page views, and you keep clicking through those

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>page views goes up, go up and up. A lot

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>of content companies out there present their articles in a

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>slide show approach, which gets a little gross. Back at

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>how stuff works, we did galleries and we did quizzes

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>toward the end of my time at how stuff works,

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<v Speaker 1>not so much in the beginning. And the beginning it

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 1>was more articles. But even then we would arrange our

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>articles in pages. Uh. The idea being that it would

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>get kind of intimidating if the article was all in

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<v Speaker 1>one unbroken page, because you'd just be scrolling and scrolling

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and scrolling, particularly for really dense topics. So we would

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>organize our our material by pages and we'd say, all right,

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>well we're gonna talk about one specific thing about this,

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, in my case technology, I'm going to dedicate

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<v Speaker 1>a whole page each to this, and then the next

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>page will be the next part about this and the

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>pages were you know, they were long. They weren't. It

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like a paragraph. Um. But we also gave the

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:15.919
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for people to use the print article feature, which

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't immediately send it to the printer, but it would

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>give you the full article in one page view and

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't, you know, click next page, next page, next page.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>So we did give people that option. Um. But yeah,

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>like as we started doing things like introducing quizzes and galleries,

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I got a little squeaked out by that because I

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 1>felt like it was almost like we were trying to

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>trick page views out of folks. I mean, they were

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>getting stuff too, like they were getting an experience as well,

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.479
<v Speaker 1>but it never felt like it was in the same

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>spirit as the articles were. So I always felt uneasy

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>about it. Anyway. That's the whole story around content farms

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and click bait from that conceptual level why they exist. Uh,

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>they can get really exasperating and you're a user, When

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you're a consumer and you're just trying to find something good, Uh,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>they get really frustrating. There are entire YouTube channels that

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>are just dedicated to churning out video after video after

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>video of crap content, sometimes misleading content, like it'll be

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>something that is fake but not expressed that it's fate,

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>so it's presented as true to the audience. I'm thinking

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of cooking videos actually fall into that category.

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>In fact, how to Cook channel is fantastic because the

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>host of that channel, she takes time to go through

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>some of the viral videos in the cooking field and

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about how those are misrepresenting what you can and

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>can't do with food. It's a fantastic channel, great for

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>critical thinkers. So I hope you enjoyed this. It was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a tidbit, but now I'm looking at my

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<v Speaker 1>recording and I'm already up to like thirty six minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>So this was a longer tidbit than I thought. It

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