1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Three point three million Americans lost their jobs two weeks ago. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Another six point seven million Americans lost their jobs last week, 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: and we have got at least another month of shutdown 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: to go. This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Welcome back 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: to Verdicts with Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles, Senator. I'm 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: sorry to be joining you in these unpleasant conditions. I 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: was hoping by now we could be doing shows in 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: person again. Instead, we are quarantined and the economy is 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: collapsing all around us. So we've got so much to 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: get to. Ten million Americans have lost their jobs in 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: two weeks. At what point does this shutdown become economically untenable. Well, 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: we've got two disasters that are playing out simultaneously. We've 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: got the public health crisis, and it is real. The 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: numbers keep growing, the fatalities keep growing, and that all 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: of us are struggling to deal with that. At the 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: same time, we've got an economic crisis that's playing out, 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: and the economic crisis is caused by the government's policies 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: put in place to deal with a public health crisis. 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: That economic crisis is producing devastation. Ten million people have 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: lost their jobs in the last two weeks, small businesses 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: are shutting down, one after the other after the other. Restaurants, bars, 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: nail salons, movie theaters. People are hurting and we don't 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: know how long this is going to last. That being said, 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: we're seeing I think the federal government, the legislation that 25 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: was passed last week will begin to provide some much 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: needed relief to a lot of people who are hurting. 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: But we got to get through this crisis. We've got 28 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: to defeat the pandemic. That's when the economic calamity is 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: going to end, when we defeat the disease. Well, because 30 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I noticed that there's this balance that people are trying 31 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: to strike. And yet you are some people like New 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: York Governor and R. Cuomo who said, if we can 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: save just one life, then all of these policies will 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: have been worth it. But but of course people die 35 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: in economic collapse as well. Suicide spike, drug overdoses spike. 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: So is there any pushback within the government people that 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: you're talking to that perhaps, as we've heard, the cure 38 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: might be worse than the disease here, Look, of course 39 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: there is. I mean there's very real debate. I mean, 40 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: if we're looking at two three months from now, twenty percent, 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: twenty five percent, thirty percent unemployment. I mean, I mean 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: those are great depression numbers. You and I've never been 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: alive for that. I mean, if we end up destroying 44 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: our domestic economy and destroying the international economy, that legacy 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: could last a long, long time. And you're right that 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: that that kind of poverty and suffering will also take lives. 47 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: That inevitably, when you see economic devastation, you know the 48 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: consequences of that are to be. With an increased poverty, 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: you're going to have increased depression, increased suicides, substance abuse, 50 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: all sorts of problems flow from economic devastation. So there 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: is a tradeoff that has to be made. But on 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: the public health side, look, my view is we need 53 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: to listen to the science and the physicians about how 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: to combat this epidemic, how to contain it so that 55 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: we don't overwhelm our health system. We haven't seen that 56 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: happen yet, but we have seen it happen in places 57 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: like Italy. What is happening in Italy none of us 58 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: want to see happen here, and so I think there 59 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: has to be a balance between the two. We have 60 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: to see when we've got the virus under control, when 61 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: it's not spreading at dramatic rates, that's when we're going 62 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: to have to be be looking to ease up on 63 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: some of the restrictions. But if we do it early 64 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: and look, part of the problem is think for a 65 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: minute about the political dynamic. Let's say, Michael, you woke 66 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: up tomorrow and you were the mayor of a large city. 67 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Would you want to be the mayor who said, Okay, 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: everybody go back to work, Everyone go back to the restaurant. 69 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: And then two weeks later, five hundred people die in 70 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: your city and they all say it was mayor knows 71 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: who killed them. The blood is on your hands. And look, Pete, 72 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: as you know, people will use rhetoric that hot and 73 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: nasty and personal. The incentives are such You've got a 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: lot of leaders who are struggling with what to do 75 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: because you do you want to say people's lives, but 76 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: there does over time, there has to be a balance, 77 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: of course. This is what keeps running through my mind 78 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: when I'm thinking, is President Trump overreacting? Is Andy Quom overreacting? 79 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Is Gavin Newsom overreacting? Is what if I were in 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: that position. What if any of us were in that position? 81 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: And you just don't know. None of us can predict 82 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: the future. A lot of the models are disagreeing with 83 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: one another. Do you want to be the guy where 84 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: the headlines all say enitor so and so? Or I 85 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: suppose in this case governor President so and so is 86 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: responsible for killing all of these people? Of course not. However, 87 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: we don't want this thing to go on forever. And 88 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: I know initially the President had said that he was 89 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: hoping this would be over by easter. Then that became 90 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: April thirtieth. Then now doctor Fauci is suggesting we might 91 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: have to maintain the mitigation efforts after April thirtieth. I 92 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: think what a lot of people want to know is 93 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: not even when is this going to end? But what 94 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: criteria is the government using to determine when this will end? 95 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Is it when there are no more cases? Is it 96 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: when we're past the top of the curve? Is it 97 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: when they're no more deaths? And what are we looking at? Well? 98 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: I started this morning on a conference call with doctor 99 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Faucci and also with Stephen Manuchen, the Treasury Secretary, and 100 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: Faucci this morning was talking about how There are all 101 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: sorts of measures that we're looking at. We're looking at cases, 102 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: we're looking at hospitalizations, we're looking at those who are 103 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: in critical conditions, and we're looking at deaths, and we 104 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: want to see each of those indicators start to slow. 105 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: The rate of new cases, the rate of new hospitalizations, 106 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: the rate of new deaths. But each of those is 107 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: a lagging indicator to the other. So even as we 108 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: begin to see hopefully a decline in new cases, the 109 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: rates of deaths is typically lagging several weeks behind, and 110 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: so we may see those numbers one set of numbers 111 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: going down while another is still on the upswing. But 112 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: one of the challenges is testing. Still there are not 113 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: that many people who've been tested, so we don't know 114 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: really how widespread things are. We have the numbers from 115 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the United States. The United States is starting to test 116 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: more widely. It was a big problem three weeks ago 117 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: getting a test. It's still challenging in some circumstances getting tested. 118 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: But what we're doing a lot more testing, which is 119 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: one of the reasons our numbers are going up. It's 120 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: clear are there are places like New York City. The 121 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: outbreak there is serious and it's concentrated. You have a 122 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: lot of people close in and in a close geographic location, 123 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: and the challenges. Listen, I've asked the CDC, I've asked 124 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: the medical experts over and over again. Okay, how long 125 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: is this going to last? Is this another two weeks, 126 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks? What are we talking about? 127 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: The simple answer is they don't know. They have lots 128 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: of models. But the models, if you adjust the variables 129 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: even slightly in terms of the rates of contagion, how 130 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: many people have it, it makes a massive difference in 131 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: terms of how widespread this is. So listen, when the 132 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: President said that he hoped everything would be opened by Easter, 133 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: I think that was a perfectly good aspiration to say, listen, 134 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: we all want to get back to work, we want 135 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: to get back to normal. And you saw the media 136 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: kind of lose their minds about it. And obviously, if 137 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: if the numbers are spiking in more and more where 138 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: people are getting sick, nobody is going to step in 139 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: and say, all right, all right, let's let's let's all go. 140 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Let's all go to a you know, a basketball game. 141 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's not It's also the case so 142 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: for example, all of the American press really gullibly reported 143 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: that America has now passed China for infections. Well, that's 144 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: only because China is absolutely lying about every aspect of 145 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: this pandemic, including Look, China claims in the last month 146 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: that their cases went from eighty thousand to eighty one thousand. 147 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: What utter garbage. So it's spread like it spread like 148 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: an epidemic and then suddenly halted all together. I don't 149 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: think anyone believes that. And and to see the American 150 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: media just just parrot propaganda, I don't think is helpful. 151 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: We do know the Chinese Communist government, they tried to 152 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: cover up this outbreak. They try to suppress this outbreak. 153 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: They were complicit, and I think they didn't want to 154 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: be embarrassed. So imagine a different world of when this 155 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: outbreak first started in Wuhan. If the Chinese government had 156 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: brought in health experts, if they'd quarantined the first people, 157 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: we could have stopped maybe this epidemic from becoming a pandemic. 158 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: We could have held it to a regional location. But 159 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: instead they covered it up and tourists and travelers went 160 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: from Wuhan all over the world. You had Chinese travelers 161 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: going to Italy, which produced a big outbreak there, and 162 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: so their cover up played a big part in the 163 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: worldwide catastrophe we're seeing right, And speaking of parroting this 164 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: Chinese communist propaganda, I mean, one of the institutions that 165 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: did that most persistently and successfully was the World Health Organization. 166 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: A lot of people were looking to them, and yet 167 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: for some reason it would seem that they've installed a 168 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: patsy to run the who they covered it up. They 169 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: didn't send experts over there for months and months. I 170 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: think the quest on a lot of people's minds here 171 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: is how are we going to hold people responsible? And 172 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: one how are we going to ascertain the guilt here? 173 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, one study said that China could have reduced 174 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: the spread of this pandemic by ninety five percent if 175 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: they had just acted three weeks earlier. How are we 176 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: going to hold them responsible once this is all said 177 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: and done. Well, Look, I think the first step is accountability. 178 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: We need to find out what happened. We need to 179 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: find out where the virus originated. We've talked before about 180 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: how where the virus originated is just miles away from 181 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: the Wuhan Institute of Virology, one of only about three 182 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: dozen P four testing facilities that test and contain very 183 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: deadly viruses. Not only that, we know that at that 184 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: institute they weren't just testing viruses. They were testing coronaviruses. 185 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just coronaviruses, they were testing coronaviruses from bats. 186 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: And the odds I mean, if you think of all 187 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: the towns, all the cities in the world, the odds 188 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: that this outbreak just happens to occur miles away from 189 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: a lab that is testing coronaviruses and bats, that those 190 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: odds are minuscule. Now here's here's what a lot of 191 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: the American mainstream media is. There was a very concerted 192 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: effort to respond to questions like that, but by screaming 193 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: this is a tinfoil hat conspiracy and conspiracy theory, right, 194 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: and we know they say that this virus wasn't manufactured. 195 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: That that was their response. And I'll tell you that's 196 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: what the CDC doctors have told me. I asked them 197 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: early on. Look, there were questions about is this a bioweapon? 198 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: I asked our doctors, is there any evidence of that? 199 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: They said no, they said, looking at the genome and 200 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: the sequencing. It does not appear to be anything that 201 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: was manufactured in a lab. It appears to be something 202 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: that occurred in nature. So that's what the experts have 203 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: told me. But the next and obvious question is, okay, fine, 204 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: if it wasn't created in a lab, was this novel 205 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: coronavirus a virus they were studying at the Wuhan Institute 206 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: of Virology that they'd gotten from nature, that had occurred 207 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: naturally in a bat or some other creature that they 208 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: were studying, And was there some sort of accident, did 209 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: someone get in effected, did an animal get infected? Did 210 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: it somehow get out? There'd been numerous stories written in 211 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: the press before this outbreak about the poor, poor efforts 212 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: at security in keeping the viruses contained at that particular 213 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: institutions from the Chinese government. They more or less admitted 214 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: it in certain documents that were distributed at that Institute 215 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: of Virology rather, and so it strikes me as entirely 216 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: plausible that it accidentally escaped. That explains why the Chinese 217 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: government would be so embarrassed about it, why they would 218 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: work so hard to try to suppress any evidence of it, 219 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: why they would punish the whistleblowers, including the doctor who 220 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: lost his life to COVID nineteen but who first blew 221 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: the whistle where the Chinese government came down on him, 222 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: and that that dynamic. And I got to say, with 223 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: the exception of a handful of journalists, and I'll give 224 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: a shout out to Tucker Carlson, I think Tucker Carlson 225 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: has been courageous and addressing this. I actually called Tucker 226 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: yesterday as I was going for my walk with my family. 227 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I called him in the cell phone. I just said, hey, Tucker, 228 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for having the backbone to ask 229 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: these questions. Because most of the mainstream media, they're so desperate. 230 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: The network executives want to be in the Chinese market. 231 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: The Chinese market is billions of dollars, and because of 232 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: the money, they won't raise these questions. And the first 233 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: step is ensuring that we have accountability, that we know 234 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: what actually happened. You know, I have to tell you 235 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: yesterday was April Fool's Day, as you know, Senator, and 236 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: I was just waiting for that government bulletin to come 237 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: out and say, hey guys, it was all a big 238 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: April Fools. You can all go back to work. Now. 239 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: Unfortunately that didn't happen. Well, I will say last night, 240 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: as I was going to bed, the girls you know, 241 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: called called me in. Heidi said come into bed, and 242 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: she was already going to bed, And as I walked in, 243 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: Caroline had set a cup of water on the on 244 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: the door to dump on my head. Then as I 245 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: was putting him to bed, it was kind of late, 246 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: as about eleven thirty at night. I was trying to 247 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: get him down to bed, and Catherine said, I'm not 248 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: going to bed until you pull an April Fools prank 249 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: on us. So I went to our bathroom and I 250 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: got a can of shaving cream and came in and 251 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: sprayed the girls with shaving cream, which which obviously they 252 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: run and scream, and they run into Caroline's room. Then 253 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: the door opens and Caroline has a full can of 254 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: shaving cream she had hidden in her room. So we 255 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: had a giant shaving cream fight last night. I finally 256 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: got the girls in bed. A note to self, never 257 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: get on the wrong side of Senator Cruz's daughters. They 258 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: really it sounds like they were We're planning this out 259 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: long before April Fool's Day. I think also another bit 260 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: of evidence that all of us staying at home, whether 261 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: we're in California or in New York, or even if 262 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: we're a US senator, we're all going a little bit 263 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: crazy with this quarantine, and so now shaving cream everywhere 264 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: and a couple of water on dad's head when people 265 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: are cooped up together, I mean, there are only so 266 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: many things you can do. I've just been binge watching 267 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Tiger King. Is Tiger King not the most surreal thing 268 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: you have ever seen? I Like, every episode you're like, 269 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: all right, it cannot get any more insane, and then 270 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: the episodes ends and you go, you gotta be kidding. Mean, 271 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: it's just turned into the next one, you know. I mean, 272 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: those are all the positive aspects of it, And I 273 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: think it is very important in times like this not 274 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: to panic, not to only look at everything that's awful. 275 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of mail bad questions in because 276 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: because people are sitting around at home, they're not allowed 277 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: to go out anywhere, and so I think it's important 278 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: if we can get to as many as we can, 279 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of specific questions. I obviously 280 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to any of them, but possibly Senator, 281 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: you do. A first question from Mimi, I heard that 282 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: if you're on Social Security you have to file a 283 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: new and separate tax return. How is that going to work? Well, 284 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: there was guidance that came out earlier this week in 285 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: which the Treasury Department said that if you hadn't filed 286 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: a tax return in twenty eighteen, if you're on Social 287 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: Security and you didn't make enough that you had to 288 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: file a tax return, that you had to file a 289 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: new special tax return. That was a stupid policy. It 290 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: was a stupid idea. A number of us were quite 291 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: critical of it, and thankfully yesterday Treasury rescinded it. They said, 292 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: you don't need to file this special tax return. If 293 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: you're receiving a Social Security check, you will receive your 294 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: relief check. That was the right outcome. It's where it's 295 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: where they should have started. But I'm glad they got 296 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: there right. Of course, you don't want people who are 297 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: on a fixed income who are particularly vulnerable to this 298 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: virus to be specifically the ones excluded from receiving the relief. 299 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. That's exact from JJ 300 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: JJ asks can required minimum deductions from four oh one 301 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: ks be relaxed due to stock market due to the 302 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: stock market being depressed, meaning every year there at a 303 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: certain point you will have to pull a certain amount 304 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: of money from your four oh one K. But if 305 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: you do it now, obviously we're in the midst of 306 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: an economic crisis. Is there any way to stop that? 307 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: So good news on that. The answer is yes, and 308 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: that was in the bill that passed Congress. So the 309 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: required distributions from four oh one ks and iras are 310 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: halted for the year precisely for that that. You don't 311 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: want to force people if they don't have to withdraw 312 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: the money, you don't want to force them to do it. 313 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: But also in the legislation pass last week, there is 314 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: the ability if you need to access your retirement savings 315 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: just for cash flow to provide for your family. The 316 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: penalties have also been lifted for accessing those as well, 317 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: So there are positive policies on both ends on on 318 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: that front great well for those of us who haven't 319 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: read every single page of that relief bill, that's a 320 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: very useful information from Mike. When is the Small Business 321 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: Administration going to provide responses to applications and inquiries? The 322 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: application format has changed nobody's getting any information or updates 323 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: or funding. So how can small business owners who are 324 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: probably under a lot of constraints right now get that 325 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: relief money from the SBA? So that should be coming it. 326 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: It is supposed to be live and starting as soon 327 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: as tomorrow, as soon as Friday, and it's being administered. 328 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: I'd say your resources. I'd go number one to the 329 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: Small Business Administration website. That's one resource there that should 330 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: be able to answer some questions. And number two, if 331 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: you're a small business owner, go to your local lenders. 332 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: The way that this program will be implemented is through 333 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: local and community banks, and any small business and any 334 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: business that has five hundred employees or fewer will qualify 335 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: for a guaranteed loan. That loan can be up to 336 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: ten million dollars. And that loan if you use those 337 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: loan proceeds to pay for payroll for your employees, to 338 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: pay for mortgage or rent for your business, or to 339 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: pay for utilities, that amount of the loan that is 340 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: paid for that is used for those purposes will be forgiven. 341 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: It becomes a grant. Wow. And so that's designed. The 342 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: whole purpose of that is to keep as many people 343 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: as possible employed and getting a paycheck. And and so 344 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: it is. And by the way, if you're a small 345 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: business owner, let's say two weeks ago you laid off 346 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: or you furloughed a bunch of employees, you can bring 347 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: them back and the loans will apply to their salaries 348 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: as well. So it's designed so if you've already laid 349 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: off workers, don't it's not just the workers you have today. 350 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: If if you have workers that you laid off a 351 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: week or two ago, you can hire them back, so 352 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: that employees will get a paycheck. But from the small 353 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: business owners perspective, that amount will be forgiven, will be 354 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: a grant. I'm not seeing that information anywhere, and I 355 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: know that nobody's read this entire bill. So that is 356 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: extremely hopeful news and good news for small business owners 357 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: and for employees of small businesses that even if you're 358 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: one of the ten million people who lost your job 359 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks, if you're working for 360 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: a small business, you can be rehired. There is a 361 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: path to do that. Next question, is there a limit 362 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: to how much money the federal government can borrow without 363 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: severe consequences? You know, now President Trump is talking about 364 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: a possible infrastructure bill that could I mean, we're not 365 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: talking in even one trillion anymore. We're talking about many 366 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: trillions of dollars. Is there a limit where we say 367 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: we can't do anymore? Look, Michael, we don't really know. 368 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: It depends how bad this crisis gets. Last week, Congress 369 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: spent two trillion dollars in an afternoon. I mean, that's 370 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: nearly ten percent of total national death. That is breathtaking, 371 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: and it's worth noting. In the Senate it passed unanimously. 372 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: There's ninety six to nothing. That means Bernie Sanders voted yes, 373 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: and I voted yes, and every senator in between voted yes. 374 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that. And the reason is this, 375 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: This is a crisis unlike any we've ever seen. And 376 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: it's a crisis that the people who were hurting, they 377 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: didn't do anything to cause this problem. All the restaurant owners, 378 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: the bar owners, the movie theater owners, that they didn't. 379 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: This is not like TARP. This is not like where 380 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: the financial firms were taking advantage of the system and 381 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: created a crisis. Here it's not their fault that this, 382 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: this worldwide pandemic began and from a governmental perspective, the 383 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: costs are coming anyway. So for example, let's take the 384 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: loans to small businesses that three hundred and seventy seven 385 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: billion dollars was appropriated. Well, we could have not done that, 386 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: in which case those small businesses all would have gone 387 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: out of business, and those employees would all filed for unemployment, 388 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: and and you would have seen more and more employees 389 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: on unemployment on welfare. That's those are massive government expenditures anyway, 390 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: And so we made the determination, you know what, it's 391 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: we're in a better situation to try to essentially give 392 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: a bridge loan to the small business owners to try 393 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: to keep that business in existence, try to keep them, 394 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: hopefully in in a few weeks or or or maybe longer, 395 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: we will get past this this shutdown and go back 396 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: to work, and we'd like to have as many of 397 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: those small businesses still viable and as many people still 398 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: have the jobs that they had a month ago. Right, 399 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: of course, I mean you've only got bad options here, right, 400 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: You're this is going to have a major cost just 401 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: by virtue of it being a pandemic. So the question 402 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: is do you have that cost and lose all your 403 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: businesses trying to keep some of your businesses. Very difficult decision. 404 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Last question is a little controversial, but people sometimes forget 405 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: there's a presidential election going on. I know that it's 406 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: not exactly in the news these days, but we will 407 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: elect a president in November. Question is from Twitter uncomfortably quarantined. 408 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: What happens if Joe Biden is found to legitimately have 409 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: competency issues by a physician, yet he was selected as 410 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: the nominee. What happens then? As far as who is 411 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: on the ballot? You know who knows Listen Biden. I'll 412 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: tell you one of the odd things about Biden. It 413 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: seems like the guys in a witness protection I mean, 414 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: what has happened to him? I mean it's can you 415 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: recall in your lifetime ever seeing anyone effectively wrap up 416 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: a nomination and then disappear. I mean, I guess he 417 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: did did what was it? A Facebook live town hall 418 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: that he like wandered off the run and didn't go 419 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: very well. Look, I like Joe personally, He's an affable guy. 420 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: But but you know, I gotta say he has slowed 421 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: down more than a step or two. And I've heard 422 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: more of the little speculation that get to the convention, 423 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Democrats are going to want to pull the plug and 424 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: abandoned ship. I don't know if that happens under their rules. 425 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: The superdelegates. You know, it's interesting that the Democratic Party 426 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: believes believes in the state and believes in government, so 427 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: they're much more authoritarian. So they have these things called superdelegates, 428 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: which are elected officials that are basically free to do 429 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: whatever they want at a convention. Republicans don't have super delicates. Yeah, no, no, 430 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting Republicans. Republicans don't have superdelegates. Republicans actually follow 431 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: the votes of the people. The Democrats have a much 432 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: more top down, power driven system. You know, I've heard 433 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: interesting spec elation about Andrew Cuomo suddenly becoming the dark 434 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: horse candidate. I don't know it. I will say this, 435 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: the longer this crisis continues, the more the question for 436 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: every voter is going to be what leader do I 437 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: trust to lead this country in a time of crisis 438 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: and calamity, whether it's a public health crisis or an 439 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: economic crisis. And I think that issue is likely to 440 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: become the only issue for the Democrats at their convention, 441 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: and the only issue, or at least the dominant issue 442 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: in November the general election, of course. I mean that's 443 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: the theme that everybody's talking about, is unemployment, and it 444 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: could affect a restaurant worker, and it could affect the 445 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: Democratic nominee for president. There's a wide spectrum here in 446 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty. We will try to clear up 447 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: more of it next time, as things are changing day 448 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: by day. But that's all the time we have for today. 449 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, senator. I'm Michael. This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. 450 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: This episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz is being brought 451 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: to you by Jobs, Freedom and Security Pack, a political 452 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: action committee dedicated to supporting conservative causes, organizations, and candidates 453 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: across the country. In twenty twenty two, Jobs Freedom and 454 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: Security Pack plans to donate to conservative candidates running for 455 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: Congress and help the Republican Party across the nation.