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Okay, So this is a weird one 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: on a Thursday night, right cause if you were to say, hey, 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: it Thursday night football standalone game, you're like, well, you know, 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, baseball's getting sort of exciting, exciting, but not 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: playoffs yet. So still football time, right, Because there are, 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: there's a portion of us. I think most of us 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: prefer obviously playoff baseball. It's regular season football, not on Sundays. 22 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: But baseball does a good job of the most part 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: of avoiding that. But there's no real excuse for watching 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: anything else. I mean, I guess if you're I was 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: watching Mets Cubs last night, you know, maybe that's part 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: of it. There's some other games you can watch, but 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: standalone football is generally pretty awesome. Thursday night football obviously 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: on Amazon tonight, it's the Cardinals who are off to 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: a hot start, although if you watch them play, you're like, 30 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: okay against the Seahawks, so you have a divisional matchup, 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: and of course the Seahawks are buyers team, not he 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: doesn't own the tea you gat him. That's where his 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: fandom goes. And I do think this is one in 34 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: which we are going to peer into and watch and 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: we will make a huge mistake, but we're gonna do 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: it anyway, which is, we're gonna make a determination into 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: if Sam Darnold can play, or if Kyler Murray can play, 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: or what everything looks like with the Cardinals or with 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: the Seahawks based upon this one game, and it's a 40 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Thursday night game, and as we all know, generally, especially 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: as the season goes on, the quality of play Thursday 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: night is not usually great because the bodies aren't really 43 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: recovered from the week before, and you know, it doesn't 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: feel like you have as much time to invest in 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: game planning and scouting and all that other stuff for 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: whatever reason. I mean, I'm giving you reasons that quality 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: play not really great on Thursdays, But we're gonna I'm 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: not saying buyer, and I'm not saying and I don't 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: are there actually Arizona Cardinal fans that don't live in Arizona. 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: I don't think the answer is yes. So these are 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: two teams that the Seahawks, who had the Twelfth Man, 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: had a huge following. Doesn't feel like that's a thing anymore, 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: as much of a thing as it used to be. 54 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: But it was definitely a thing. And that's only because 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: they were winning for you know, a good six seven 56 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: years there two super Bowls, one super Bowl win. But 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: unless you sustain it, and sustained it at a high level, 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to have those kind of national fan bases 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the way that Steelers have, the way the Cowboys haven't. 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: I know, the Cowboys haven't won anything recently but the 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: three Super Bowls and then the success in the seventies. 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: But you look at tonight and it's like Arizona doesn't 63 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: really have fan base. Seattle does, but they're kind of 64 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: lukewarm on the whole idea of this rebuilding what they're doing. 65 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: You have a former number one pick, former number three 66 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: pick in the draft, one has been on the same team, 67 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: and a Kyler Murray, but you know, most people think 68 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: he played too many video games for much of his 69 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: career and he's just okay. Darnald was seeing ghosts when 70 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: he was in with the Jets, lost his job in Carolina, 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: backup in Sarah Cisco lit it up in Minnesota, but 72 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator in the skill position guys getting more 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: of the credit wasn't good at the end of the year. 74 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden he's in Seattle. He 75 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: comes off a game which they won, but part of 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: it was that the competition was inept. Again, I just 77 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: think that the takeaway from tonight's game is going to 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: be one point five to two x of what it 79 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: should be because these are two of the teams in 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: the NFL that exist in every statistical column, but don't 81 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: really exist in our minds. I mean outside again, Buyer 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: is a Seahawks fan, so he watches every snap. I 83 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: don't know anybody who claims who claims to be an 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal fan. Do you guys know anybody who's, like, 85 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: you know what, he's an Arizona Cardinal fan. I'm not 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: saying they don't exist, but I'm saying they don't really exists. 87 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: It's like when we say, like, well, everybody's a I 88 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: know Cowboy fans, I know Raider fans, I know Ram fans, 89 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: I know Niner fans, I know Dolphin fans, Steeler fans, 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: Giant fans. There's a lot of TV guys are Jets fans. 91 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: I don't know a single Airson a Cardinal fan. 92 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: All those weird doug all those teams you mentioned have 93 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl, So maybe that's the issue. 94 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: It's possible. I mean, the Raiders haven't won a Super 95 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: Bowl a long long time, long, long, long long time. 96 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: No Chiefs fans. A couple of Texans fans, although they're 97 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: a newer franchise. Jase Duke, can you think of anybody 98 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: in your orbit and Jason, you've lived grown up, been 99 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: around southern California. It's the neighboring state. Do you know 100 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: anyone who's an Arizona Cardinal fan? 101 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: Not one, Nope. 102 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they actually like again in Arizona. There's 103 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: some people now it used to be a transient market. 104 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: It still is. COVID that this phoenix just exploded. It's 105 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: like twice the size. It's massive. So this is not 106 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: me crapping on the Cardinals. The Cardinals have been to 107 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. They were within one play, one great 108 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: drive from the Pittsburgh stears of winning a super Bowl. 109 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: But there I've not like I would guess that in 110 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: terms of deer sold in the last twenty years, the 111 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals would probably be last. What do you guys think, Like, 112 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm I I'm not even googling it. It's just something 113 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: that crossed my mind. I will bet if I said 114 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: Sam Google, which I'm saying Sam Google, that you know 115 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: teams and jersey sales or whatever. Have you ever run 116 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: into somebody who's like, who's your team? The Arizona Cardinals? 117 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Like what, I personally don't know a single Cardinals fan 118 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to be mean. 119 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I'm not I'm not either. I'm 120 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: just like and and and again for for people who 121 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: are listing in whatever mark where all these markets all 122 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: over the country. I know I was reading one for folks. 123 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: We're in North Dakota, right, We're from North Dakota to Wichita, 124 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: several place in the East Coast, and obviously in Oklahoma. 125 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: We're here in Appleton in Wisconsin. W're all these different markets. 126 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever been walking down the street or you 127 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: ever been in a sports bar? You ever in a 128 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: sports bar and someon was like, hey, hey, hey, can 129 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: you tell the bartender to put on the Cardinals game? 130 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: That's my team, But they walk in with a Kyler 131 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Murray jersey. I don't think it's amazing. And what we're 132 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: saying is this is the most popular sport in the country, 133 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: but there are certain teams that get just zero love, 134 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: have zero attention because they don't have much of a 135 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: fan base. And I think the Cardinals are probably right 136 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: there in line with I mean, the Panthers had a 137 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: had a following. Not they they went to a Super Bowl, 138 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: but they also had Cam Newton who was exceedingly popular 139 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: they've had others, right, you have one of my favorite 140 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: linebackers of all time. They have some you know, Steve 141 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Smith became a TV personality. Obviously he's got some personal 142 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: stuff that he's gone through. But you know, Tampa, it 143 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot, but Tom Brady won a Super Bowl. 144 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: And there's a couple New Orleans people from New Orleans 145 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: obviously usually more college fall fans, but they love them Saints. 146 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who's a Cardinals fan. 147 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead, So I found her this Ranker article 148 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: that has found some celebrity fans of the Arizona Cardinals 149 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: I could share with you. 150 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: So we got a Frankie. 152 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: Muniz who grew up in Scottsdale, Arizona. That she was 153 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: from Malcolm in the Middle. Now he's a race car driver, 154 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: David Spade, who has a lot of connections the state 155 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: of Arizona. I think he went to Arizona State. He 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: is also a Cardinals fan. It says Gwen Stefani and 157 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: Blake Shelton are Cardinals fans, because I don't buy that. 158 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: Blake Shelton was a fan of the Cardinals and then 159 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: so she's married to him. Now and she's a fan county. Yeah, 160 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: well you could you you could adopt a team in 161 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: the Southwest. But there's a couple of celebrities for you 162 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: that are so called Arizona Cardinals fans. 163 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: Do we think that they actually own a jersey, that 164 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: they paint their face, that they tail gate outside, that 165 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: they do they watch the random game on the road 166 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: against Like you you know you're a fan when like 167 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: you're a fan of Iowa football, you watch every Iowa game. Like, 168 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: if we want to list you online as a fan 169 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: of said team, then you have to You don't have 170 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: to watch every snap, but you got to check in 171 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: on their scores every week, fair, Like what's the what's 172 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: the cutoff? 173 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 4: You have to know? 174 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: You have to know, Like if you're a fan of 175 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: a team, you got to know like what's going on 176 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: with like, yeah, who they lose to, who they win 177 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 2: or who they beat of. You know, you gotta be 178 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: up to speed on things you call yourself fan. 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: So my takeaway for tonight's game, Thursday Night Football, which 180 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: is on Amazon, a battle essentially for first place. NFC 181 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: West is one especially team that time that the world 182 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: doesn't pay attention to, but two quarterbacks who are interesting. 183 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Ones had more consecutive successful seasons on some level than 184 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: the other, but neither are believed to have been anywhere 185 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: near the potential that people thought they had when they 186 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: started their career. But we're going to make I believe, 187 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: we're going to make a statement of who they are 188 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: what they are more based upon tonight because nobody pays 189 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: attention on a weekly basis. Dan, When I say nobody, 190 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't include you, right, but you tell me it's fair. 191 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like there's the same twelfth band that there 192 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: used to be, and people pay a lot less attention 193 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: to the Seahawks than they used to. 194 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they were very popular during the Pete Carol 195 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson era. However, at the end of the Peak 196 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 4: Carroll era, I think there was a lot of malaise 197 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: that came over the Seahawks fan base and even comments 198 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: that I saw on social media just stemming from this 199 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: past weekends win over the Saints that lumen Field felt 200 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: like it did back in the heyday, or started to 201 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: feel that way because there was criticism with the Seahawks 202 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 4: fans in Week one with how many forty nine ers 203 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: fans were actually in the Stadium, So those things happened. 204 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: The list of teams that you guys said of the Packers, Steelers, 205 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: and Raiders, they do have supreme fan bases, and there's 206 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: something cool about being a Raiders fan. I'd be curious 207 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: to see on how many new Raiders fans that there are. 208 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: But there's no doubt that the Seahawks at one point 209 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: were a hot ticket and aren't anymore. And the comparison 210 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: that I bring up is not what they did under 211 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: their two Super bowls with Pete Carroll, was when they 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 4: went to the Super Bowl against the Steelers with Mike 213 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 4: Comrid and Matt Hasselbeck. They weren't nearly as popular as 214 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: they were under Pete Carroll and they were winning. Then 215 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: they went to a Super Bowl. Should have won that 216 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: Super Bowl that we all talked about. So there is 217 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 4: this new portion of fan or specifically with the Seahawks, 218 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: where teams become cool, and the Seahawks probably weren't cool 219 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: the last couple of years, and I think it's still 220 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 4: gonna take a while for them to be cool again, 221 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: but at least locally in the Pacific Northwest, there seems 222 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: to be a renewed energy behind the Seahawks because of 223 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: what this team could possibly be. 224 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: I will get more on that to come. This is 225 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: this isn't just a game, It's a once in a 226 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: generation event. 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They were when everyone's accused 236 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers of and rightfully so, right of being the 237 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: home game for the visiting team. It was usually the 238 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Cowboy They used to be in the same division as 239 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. When the Cowboys would come to town, that 240 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: was their big game of the year, right, that was 241 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: their big game of the year. And I think, frankly, 242 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons they signed Emmitt Smith back 243 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: in the day, right just because that actually helped their 244 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: fan base more than anything, because everybody was a transplant. 245 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: They're just in this weird area of they're an NFL 246 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: team but not really covered like one. 247 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: I also think that it's a bigger problem in the 248 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 4: NFL than the league would want to to say it is. 249 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: Jason and I were at the game last week in Buffalo, 250 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: and there was not the problem. There wasn't this huge 251 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: contingent of Dolphin fans. Now, did we see Dolphin jerseys, Yes, 252 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: But there's also the thought process in some of these places, 253 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 4: specifically like Phoenix, where the viewing option is so good 254 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: at home and maybe the cost of going to games 255 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: isn't worth it. But if your team is in town 256 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: for that one point that season, or for that one 257 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: point within a four year span, you're going to the games. 258 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: And I don't know how you fight that if you're 259 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: the National Football League. The other thing with tonight, with 260 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 4: I think it's way more about Kyler Murray than it 261 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: is about Sam Darnold. And I think that that's a 262 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: conversation that we probably have been a year or two 263 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: removed from. 264 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: Why do you think so well? 265 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 4: I think that last week is a perfect example of 266 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: what happened with Marvin Harrison Junior against the forty nine 267 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 4: ers and the awful drop that he had the football. 268 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: What's em When did Marvin Harrison forget to catch football? 269 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know, and I think everybody's wondering the 270 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: same thing. And there was another play in the end 271 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: zone on a contested catch that he didn't come down 272 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: with that you were surprised. So there's something going on. 273 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: But also, the Seahawks front four is one of the 274 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: best in the NFL, and maybe at the end of 275 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: the year we're going to say that they're the best 276 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: in the NFL. We're not there yet, but Seattle's been 277 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: able to get pressure on quarterbacks with just their front four. 278 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: So how do you handle this with Kyler Murray? And 279 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: one of the things about the Marvin Harrison drop that 280 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: he had in the game against the forty nine ers 281 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: was the football was unbelievably underthrown. It was not a 282 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: great pass, but we aren't talking about that. It's not 283 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: to move the blame off of Marvin Harrison Junior. But 284 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: to your point, Doug, in a standalone game, when last 285 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: week's Niners Cardinals game was completely covered up by Bears 286 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: and Cowboys for most of the country. This is our 287 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: opportunity tonight to see what Kyler Murray can do. And 288 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: I think that's where the that's where tonight's verdict comes 289 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: out that tomorrow we're going to be talking about Kyler 290 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: Murray a good or bad when it comes to the 291 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals. 292 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: Okay, And my counterpoint would be, I think the same 293 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: thing of Sam Donald because outside of you, I don't 294 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: know anybody who's watched Sam Donald outside you know, red zone. 295 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: Couple here, couple there, and the assumption the last time 296 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: we saw Sam Donald was the playoffs and he struggled, right, 297 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: and it was the assumption was that the only reason 298 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: he was good in the Twin Cities was because of 299 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: the surrounding cast and the coach, not because of Sam Donald. Right. 300 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: So now getting we it's our first chance on a national, 301 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: national level to see Sam Donald, you know, play on TV. 302 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: We will make the fair or unfair assessment of who 303 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: he is based upon how he plays. To night. 304 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: He's been fine this year, but this is also a 305 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: home game, so I think there's more on your quarterback, 306 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: Like if you don't win this game, if the Seahawks 307 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: go on the Road and lose. They lost. I mean, 308 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: this is a jammed up division. Everybody's two and one 309 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: except the Niners who are three and oh. So yeah, 310 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: I think there's more of the jury out on Kyler 311 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: Murray tonight than Donald. It's not to absolve Donald of 312 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: any responsibility, but I just think that Murray's more of 313 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: the conversation. 314 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 315 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 5: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 316 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 317 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So I think I 318 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: know why people don't like Russell Wilson. And when I 319 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: say people, I mean a lot of people, especially in sports. 320 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: And I think there was a time in which most fans, 321 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: okay most people who aren't in the know, gravitated towards 322 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: Russell because he was drafted in the third round. The perception, 323 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: whether it's real or not, is that he was run 324 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: out of n C State and he went to Wisconsin 325 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: won a Rose Bowl. He was a a They didn't 326 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: win the Rose Bull. 327 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: No, they lost the Oregon I believe it was the 328 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: Rose Bull with that team, I know it was. 329 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: They had an incredible running game and Russ was incredible. 330 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: But they lost to I think a Chip Kelly Oregon team, 331 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: right in a really good game. 332 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, my bad, go ahead, Dan. 333 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: They lost three straight Rose Bulls. 334 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: I had that, but that was the one Rose bull 335 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: Like that was that backfield was ridiculous. 336 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: Monte Ball and didn't they have James White at the 337 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: same time. And then I remember they put like eighty 338 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: three points up on Indiana and just kept just plow plowed, 339 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 2: plowed fields for days. 340 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: Couldn't beat Organ. My bad anyway, if you look on 341 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: paper and you and you took snapshots of who he 342 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: was and things he said at times, like Russell Wilson 343 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: should be among the most popular NFL players ever. Right, 344 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: too small went to Wisconsin after leaving NC State because 345 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: he wanted to play baseball, Right, and then he goes 346 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: to Wisconsin, they go to a Rose Bowl. Okay, they 347 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: didn't win the Rose Bowl, but comes into the NFL, 348 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, and beats out Matt Flynn, takes the job 349 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: two Super Bowls, wins the Super Bowl even with the 350 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: interception in the loss to the Patriots. People don't put 351 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: the blame on Russell Wilson to this day, it's all 352 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: about offensive coordinator, Repeat Carroll, and the narrative was, now, look, 353 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: some of the players the Seahawks will be like, well 354 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: you did that to help Russell Wilson, but no one is. 355 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: I've yet to hear anyone else that matters to me, right, 356 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: And opinions go, you know Blue that Super Bowl Russell 357 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: Wilson because that throw, that throw is low where you know, 358 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler can't pick it off. Right, But regardless of it, Okay, 359 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: he is not. And I think a lot of it 360 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: is how it's ended these last Ford, the end of 361 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: the end of the Seahawks run, the two years in 362 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Denver didn't work, the year in Pittsburgh didn't work, and 363 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: now it's not working with the New York Giants. I 364 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: think again, I could be wrong. It's that he is 365 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: yet to show us that, like you're a human being, 366 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: a human being because when you're programmed, you go Broncos Country, 367 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: let's ride, or I'm unlimited. It just found it sounds 368 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: feels cheesy, feels inorganic, and again, like we don't always 369 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: see through artificial things. Matter of fact, some things which 370 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: appear to be too good be true and really are. 371 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: People will have conspiracy theories about why they actually exist. 372 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: But I want you to listen to Russell Wilson. Remember 373 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: he essentially got demoted and he'll probably never be a 374 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: team's number one again. He may start because maybe Jackson 375 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: Dart stinks or gets hurt or whatever. He may go 376 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: somewhere else next year and is a placeholder until a 377 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: first round draft pick place But the likelhood of him 378 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: being QB one for entire season is over. So when 379 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: asked about it, there's a way I would react. You 380 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: would react if we're being honest. Here's Russell Wilson's reaction. 381 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 6: Now, I'm focused on helping this team. When you know 382 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 6: I'm focused on helping Jackson, I'm focused on me getting 383 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 6: ready to be the best version of me today on Wednesday, 384 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 6: and so you know I want to be here. You 385 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 6: know I love this organization. I love the process of 386 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 6: it all, love the guys in the locker room. I'm 387 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 6: not giving up on this on us in this season. 388 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: It's great that you're not giving up. Okay, it's great 389 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: that you want to support Jackson, but I love everybody. 390 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: When you played three games two games ago, you had 391 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: an unbelievab football game. What he threw four hundred and 392 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: fifty yards right, whatever he did at the end again, 393 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: like he had an unbelievable game. They pull him a 394 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: week later. A real human being says, I'm devastated. I just, 395 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: I just I don't know what happened. I understand, but 396 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: I'm personally devastated. Like I'm mentally and emotionally all in, 397 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: still all in, but this one hurts. He just can't 398 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: do it. He just can't do it. He's so busy 399 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: being at Tony Robbins, you know, mental health help book. 400 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: He just can't let us in and be vulnerable. It's 401 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. You 402 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: want to talk college football, then you got to go 403 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: get to Josh Pate, coach, the Josh Pate College Football Show. 404 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: You see him on ESPN and on three Sports and 405 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: Yahoo's Sports and he lives in your head. Rent free, 406 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: just be honest with it. Big SEC Weekend we'll get 407 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: to in a second. But James Franklin, you know, going 408 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: back to his time in the SEC, granted it was 409 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: a Vanderbilt, but started to build up the reputation of 410 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: you can beat anybody, but ranked teams now You're at 411 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: Penn State, very different calculus. Still struggle to beat ranked teams. 412 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: Oregon comes in, they've looked like world beaters. They didn't 413 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: play great, but beat north beat the Ella. Northwestern essentially 414 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: got my Gundy fired as well. Penn State has Drew Aller, 415 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: who you know, without doing much is is jumping up 416 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: draft forards. 417 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 7: What do you think, Josh, that's a great way to 418 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 7: describe Drew Aller so far this year, buddy, he. 419 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 8: Hadn't done anything. They haven't done anything. 420 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 7: No one in this matchup has played anyone. So you 421 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 7: know that thing that happened sometimes it happened. It happened 422 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 7: in the Illinois Indiana game last week, where you have 423 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 7: a point spread underdog, and yet the entire country is 424 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 7: betting the underdog to win outright. That did not fare 425 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 7: well for people back in Illinois last week. 426 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 8: Everyone's on Oregon. 427 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: Man. 428 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 8: I did a poll on Twitter the other day. 429 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 7: I had like fifteen thousand votes, So that's really scientific. 430 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 7: Like seventy five percent of people took Oregon to win outright. 431 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 7: They're a three and a half point dog. So my 432 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 7: thinking on this is, what's the reason. Let's not just 433 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 7: talk about what Penn State and James Franklin haven't done 434 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 7: That's very obvious. 435 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 8: Four and twenty. 436 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 7: Against ranked teams or top ten teams or whatever like, 437 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 7: why haven't they been able to win? Well, the answer 438 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 7: is they've never been dynamic at receiver. 439 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 8: They have not been able to push the ball down 440 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 8: the field. All right. 441 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 7: So then we arrive in spring, they go to the portal, 442 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 7: they get some difference makers there. I go there and 443 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 7: watch them in fall camp when they're. 444 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 8: Going good on good, they look great. 445 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 7: They're winning fifty to fifty balls, they're pushing the ball 446 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 7: down the field. Then we arrived first three weeks of 447 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 7: the season, they play inferior opponents. 448 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 8: They've done nothing. 449 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 7: They're passing games, anemic accuracies, all for Holur. So we 450 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 7: got one of two things in play here, and I'm 451 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 7: going to take Penn State because I think it's the latter. 452 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 7: But it's either that just really is who they are, 453 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 7: or they've bobbled stuff up and they're going to give 454 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 7: a lot of looks to Oregon that we haven't really 455 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 7: seen so far this year. I just doug its classic 456 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 7: situation of one team wants to win it. It'd be 457 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 7: really great for orgon to win this. Everything about Penn 458 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 7: State's identity this year is riding on winning this game. 459 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 7: They can go to Columbus and lose, that's okay. They 460 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 7: cannot sit here at home, revamped roster by week to 461 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 7: prep for it. Oregon young teams, flying cross country, new 462 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 7: quarterback and still lose. 463 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 8: That cannot happen. 464 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 7: So somehow, some way, I think dust settles Saturday night 465 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 7: and they sort of do the whole bear crawl over 466 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 7: broken glass to a win thing. 467 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Hmmm, that should be fascinating. Okay, let's do Bama Georgia 468 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: same thing. George doesn't lose at home. Everybody think, you know, 469 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: people were selling every bit of Bama stock after losing 470 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: to Florida State. What if Florida State's actually good? And 471 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: what if Bama's starting to figure it out? Can Bama 472 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: go down to Athens and get a win? 473 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 8: Yeah? 474 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, so let's just go to what what 475 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 7: if all of what you said there is true? What 476 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 7: if florida'say is really good? What if Bama has gotten 477 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 7: their act together. They just had a little wobbly tire 478 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 7: on the car early in the season. They pulled over, 479 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 7: they tighten the lug, nuts, they're good. All that can 480 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 7: be true and then still lose here. 481 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 8: George is very good. Do you realize they have not 482 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 8: lost their home game since before COVID. 483 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 7: It was Will muss Champ in South Carolina in a 484 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 7: three and nine season, no less, by the way for 485 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 7: South Carolina that beat them at home last So my 486 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 7: stance on this is kind of like when I talk 487 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 7: to you about the Georgia Tennessee game. I could paint 488 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 7: you a pass for Tennessee to win that game, just 489 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 7: like I could paint you a really clear path for 490 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 7: not only Bama to win here but dominate. There is 491 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 7: a world if Ty Simpson has given time to throw, 492 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 7: if that O line stands up against frankly a Georgia 493 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 7: front that hasn't produced a lot of pressure so far 494 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 7: this year, they will rip Georgia secondary. 495 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 8: George is very vulnerable. 496 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 7: This is not a ventage Georgia's secondary. Bama has got 497 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 7: thoroughbreds in that. 498 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 8: Wide receiver room. 499 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 7: So if that's the case, it's a Bama knight and 500 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 7: they'll quiet that crowd. I am going to have to 501 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 7: see that to believe it. 502 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 8: They are penalty ridden on the road. They are a 503 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 8: different team. 504 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 7: On the road under the bors so far aside from 505 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 7: the LSU game last year. So if I'm going to 506 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 7: be proven wrong, sir, I'm going to be proven wrong 507 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 7: by Georgia doing something at home they hadn't done since 508 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 7: twenty eighteen. I'm going to be proven wrong by Vama 509 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 7: doing something it's uncharacteristic to their road nature. And if 510 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 7: it happens, it happens. I just got to see it 511 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 7: to believe it. 512 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: All right. I happen to be on TikTok saw your 513 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: real right, and you talked about Auburn's lack of explosive 514 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: plays and how everything is dinking dunk around the line 515 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and Jack Snarl's more of a runner than 516 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: a thrower. That said, you know, a trick play, which 517 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: is an illegal play, and then a couple of other 518 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: questionable calls going against them. They lose a heartbreaker to Oaklhoman. 519 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 1: Now they get to go to A and M, and 520 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: A and M's on the opposite side, you know, with 521 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: a call that goes their way in order to beat 522 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. We do have a history there though, of 523 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: A and M losing big home games. 524 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 7: Is this one of them? 525 00:26:59,720 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 8: Yeah? 526 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 7: So I got a head heart conflict here. 527 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 8: My head is just telling me, don't overthink the room. 528 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 7: Man like Auburn, just because they lost the game doesn't 529 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 7: mean they automatically bounce back. This is a very cruel sport, 530 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 7: and A and M is rested. This is a double 531 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 7: road stretch for Auburn. That's why that Oklahoma game was 532 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 7: so critical. But if you lose it, you got to 533 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 7: go right back on the road against a rested team 534 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 7: and a very tough environment. All right, that's what my 535 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 7: head says. My heart says, my heart's where all of 536 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 7: the logic is, and my body it's inverted. My heart says. 537 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 7: You know, your entire life, you've watched teams lose, especially 538 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 7: ones who can run the ball like Auburn. Can they 539 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 7: lose and then they're in wounded animal mode, total desperation mode, 540 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 7: and you find yourself watching them defying conventional wisdom, and 541 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 7: they just win a tough game the next week. And 542 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 7: it's tough to kill these teams. It's trying to like 543 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 7: nail a jello to the wall sometimes to really get them. 544 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 7: Here's what I wonder, I really wonder if that explosivity 545 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 7: we saw out of that a and M passing game 546 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 7: is just here to stay because it was against Notre Dame. 547 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 8: Is it just here to stay? 548 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 7: If it is, and you're making Auburn trade points with 549 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 7: you to keep up Jackson Arnold's not going to do that, 550 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 7: and they'll end up turning the ball over and it 551 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 7: will be A and M's day. I think if Auburn 552 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 7: wins this game, that box scores really crooked. It's like 553 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 7: seventeen passes fifty two runs. It's way way warped. That 554 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 7: is Auburn's game. That's their path here. It's the game 555 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 7: I'm most conflicted on. 556 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: I picked A and M. 557 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 8: I'm very, very conflicted on it. 558 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 7: There's absolutely nothing in that game that would shock me 559 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 7: either way. 560 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Okay, sc Illinois Illinois gets stomped last week at Indiana. 561 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't I help me explain this one to me? 562 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 8: Right? 563 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: They beat Duke West Illinois Western Michigan. He beat sixty 564 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: three to ten. Granted on the road. I don't really 565 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: know why Illinois is still ranked A. Then we just couldn't, 566 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: like veguess, you couldn't find twenty five teams to rank. 567 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: It was that bigger question. Is sc fresh off a 568 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: road win against Purdue. They're a six and a half 569 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: point favorite, so not a touchdown favorite, but almost at Illinois. 570 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: Who do you like that one? 571 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 7: Doesn't look like it makes a whole lot of sense, 572 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 7: does it, Especially if you stayed up late and you 573 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 7: watched Southern cal Car of Michigan State up last week 574 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 7: and then most people had already seen what Indiana did. Man, 575 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 7: they splattered Illinois. 576 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 8: I'm going to this game. 577 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 7: By the way, I've never been to an Illinois game. 578 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 8: I have got to do what I did with A 579 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 8: and m Auvern. I got to see it to believe 580 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 8: it. It may be the most. 581 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 7: Square side in the world. I don't know how you 582 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 7: don't lay the points with USC here. I also think 583 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 7: I think I talked to you about this a couple 584 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 7: of weeks ago too. If you start to watch USC 585 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 7: Nohen Lincoln had Caleb Williams a couple of years ago, 586 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 7: you're thinking, Man, Caleb Williams, supreme talent. 587 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 8: Top overall draft pick, blah blah blah. 588 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 7: I am telling you I feel even stronger about it 589 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 7: two weeks later. I think he's got a better quarterback 590 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 7: for his system right now, Jad and Mayava. I don't 591 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 7: want to compare talent profiles. I just want to talk 592 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 7: about the job of a quarterback within a system. Jade 593 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 7: and Miyava is a stud man, and you look at 594 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 7: the smiles. 595 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 8: On that coaching staff's faces. 596 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 7: That dude's playing within that system better than Caleb Williams 597 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 7: ever played within Lincoln Riley's system. And you can coach that. 598 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 7: I mean, just talking from a coach's perspective. If you've 599 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 7: got a guy who's got adequate to really high level skill, 600 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 7: which Mayava does, and he's doing what you ask him 601 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 7: to do, but he's also got that improvisation, he's got 602 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 7: that X factor, that intangible stuff you can't coach, ability 603 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 7: to make you look like a genius three or four 604 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 7: times a game. And he's ascending like he's just now 605 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 7: really figuring it out. They're a very dangerous team. They've 606 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 7: got stud wide receivers. They lost Branch that is Georgea's 607 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 7: number one receiver right now, and. 608 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 8: They still got two studs out there. So I know. 609 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 7: It's desperation time for Illinois. 610 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 8: I know all that. 611 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 7: I'm going to the game for that reason, but man, 612 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 7: it's going to take a fight to stay in that 613 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 7: game with USC You're going to the game, I'm going 614 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 7: up there and then I'm going down to Athens later 615 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 7: that night. How can you just go to one game 616 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 7: on a Saturday like this? 617 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that sounds like a 618 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: PJ deal. If you need somebody to hopping in the 619 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: PJ and fill it up, you let me know. LSU 620 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: ole Miss, this is this would be a pretty good 621 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: pregame battle right, pregame at the Grove, pregame at LSU 622 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: under Lights afternoon game in Oxford. Reb's a point a 623 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: half favorite. 624 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 7: Yeah that my went cross zero earlier this week. Honestly, 625 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 7: I think I think ole Miss is going to take 626 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 7: this game. I'm concerned about LSU. They're undefeated, and a 627 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 7: lot of times when teams are undefeated, people are just 628 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 7: blatantly ignoring warning signs. They have warning signs all over 629 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 7: the place right now. But they're really good defense, so 630 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 7: it's masked them. But once again, they're not running the 631 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 7: ball like they should. Once again, they're in the what 632 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: I think upper thirties to upper twenties, low thirties passing 633 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 7: and in the hundreds rushing, And it's just inexplicable that 634 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 7: you could never be able to run the ball at LSU, 635 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 7: but they can't. I don't like the offensive staff versus 636 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 7: defensive staff. 637 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 8: Match up here for LSU at all. 638 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 7: Now one of the best matchups all weekend will be 639 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 7: Kissing versus Blake Baker. That's phenomenal, that's pay per view 640 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 7: quality stuff. But I'm telling you they have not faced 641 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 7: a team. LSU has not faced a team yet that could. 642 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 8: Force them to trade points. 643 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 7: Clemson didn't credit to LSU. Florida didn't they turn them 644 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 7: over five times? 645 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 8: Credit to LSU. 646 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 7: This team right here, you're not holding under twenty, I 647 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 7: don't think. And so this is where nuss Meyer. 648 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 8: Has to make some plays. 649 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 7: He's had an abdominal issue all year. It has not 650 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 7: cost them yet, But I don't know if they're putt 651 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 7: in a position where they need thirty or they need 652 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 7: thirty four to win this game if it's there without 653 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 7: taking the kind of risk that forces turnovers. So I 654 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 7: think Ole Miss wins this game. And afterwards we're asking 655 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 7: a lot of questions about LSU. We already should have 656 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 7: been asking. 657 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: Josh you're the best man. By the way, you can 658 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: go check out Josh Pate. Okay, the Josh Pak College 659 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: Football Show. You see him on ESPN, on three Sports, 660 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: and Yahoo Sports. 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Ah, so I'll have 670 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: face believe Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 671 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fill a buster away time, just 672 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: reminding you. Check out our new YouTube channel. Go to 673 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash at Doug gotleiphow. If you're still 674 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: aready on YouTube, go to Doug Gottlieb Show. Be sure 675 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: to hit the subscribe button and don't just stop there. 676 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: Hit the thumbs up icon and comment away. Let me 677 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: know how incredible my takes are. Just check out our 678 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: brand new channel on YouTube. Just search Doug Gottlieb Show 679 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: and subscribe. Let's get to Dan Byer for a game. 680 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 5: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 681 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 4: All right, Doug, the game on this Thursday is. 682 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: I feel a draft. 683 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 4: Doug. You will have the first overall pick in this 684 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 4: draft of the teams that you would like to see 685 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 4: when the World Series. Now, the playoff field isn't necessarily set, 686 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 4: so we get a few more options than if we 687 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: did this, say next week, but teams you would like 688 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 4: to see when the World Series that are still eligible 689 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: for this season. 690 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Brewers been the best team in the National League. 691 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: Unbelievable story of a team trying to do it kind 692 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: of a different way in terms of the makeup of 693 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: the roster and the overall salaries. Plus they have a 694 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: possibility of matching up with the Cubs in the Postseason're 695 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: not only a rival sort of right, it's new rival 696 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: him in the same division forever. But you also have 697 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: Craig Counsel who left the Brewers for the Cubs because 698 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: the Cubs have more resources. I think the Milwaukee Brewers 699 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: are the easy pick here. 700 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 4: All right, samuelll pick second, I go third, Then Jason 701 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: is the fourth pick. We'll take a time out and 702 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 4: then we'll reverse it in that order, Sam, you're up 703 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 4: at number two. 704 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: Well, last year I was a big apple, Sam, you know, 705 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: looking at us, enjoying the Mets run and then eventually 706 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: the Dodgers beat them. But this year, Philly Chies sake, Sam, 707 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: give me the Phillies. Give me the philadeph Phillies. Kyle Schwarber, 708 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: the schwar Bombs. He's had a great year. 709 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 4: Give me the Phils. I'm gonna go with the team. 710 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: Everybody's starting to fall in love with the Mariners. Boy, 711 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: that would be something for everybody up in the Pacific Northwest. 712 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 4: Cal Rawley, I know you're gonna have a discussion about 713 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: him coming up, Doug, but give me the Mariners at 714 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: number three. 715 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: You guys, let my team fall to four. And though 716 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: I would like to see the Dodgers lose so that 717 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: the team can maybe contemplate the future of Andrew Friedman, 718 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 3: I do you think that we need to win one 719 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: for Kershaw as he's playing, So I'll go with the Dodgers. 720 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 4: Ever wanted to try an Olympic and Paralympic sport, try fencing. 721 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 4: It's fast, safe and easy to start. Find a beginner 722 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: class near you at USA Fencing dot org. Slash Try Fencing. 723 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 4: That's USA Fencing Dot Org slash Try Fencing. Jason, you're 724 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 4: back on the clock in round two. 725 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Chicago Cups with my fifth pick. 726 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 4: Wow, how about this, I'll take the Reds. They're not 727 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 4: in it right now yet. Boy, what would that be 728 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: like for Sincida? 729 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 1: Be crazy, big red Machine. I mean, I'm next, Sam 730 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: is next. 731 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 4: Doug, you'll have the last pick of this draft. All right. 732 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: If it's not the Phills, then let's go back to 733 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: being big Apple. 734 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: Sam. 735 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 4: Give me the Mets. 736 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: Give me the Mets, the rival of the Phillies. 737 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 4: All right, Doug, wrap up this draft. 738 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: Yankees. 739 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 4: Oh you'd like to see the Yankees win? 740 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, just because again a lot like the Dodgers winning 741 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: it last year. It may not feel good to a 742 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: lot of people because the money they spent, but more 743 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: people will pay attention if the Yankees and the Dodgers 744 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: are in it. And I think baseball is actually he's 745 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: become a great watch way more watchable these last four 746 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,959 Speaker 1: or five years than it was the previous fifteen years. 747 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 4: And that's game time. 748 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 5: Game This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 749 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: All right Coming up next on the Doug Gottlieb Show 750 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio, I'm going to play the judge. 751 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: What do I judge? Find out next? On Fox Sports Radio.