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Speaker 2: Yeah. Goodod morning, SWEAML and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, December twenty one, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two. Happy anniversary to basketball. Shout out to James

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Speaker 2: Nay Smith. Way to do your work on this day

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Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety one. I'm Jay Skis here in the

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Speaker 2: yard and alongside me thanks to the power of technology,

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Speaker 2: tas Mellie.

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Speaker 3: I thought the anniversary was like a week ago or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: December twenty first, eighteen ninety one. That man and his

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Speaker 2: peach basket invented the game Canadian man in Springfield, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: We love to see it and filling in for JD

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Speaker 2: all week long. Let's bring him in here. He had

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Speaker 2: some pastry issues this morning. It's Jerome Chang.

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Speaker 4: Hello everyone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I got a coffee right before starting this broadcast,

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Speaker 4: All those things, delicious, delicious.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready for my almond croissant. I'm ready to have

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Speaker 5: every single one of the croissants available.

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Speaker 4: I think she's grabbing it for a meeting. I don't

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Speaker 5: The coffee coffee shop she's at.

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Speaker 5: She's just like, I love every one of these and

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Speaker 5: But there's got to be something about monopolizing and taking

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Speaker 4: I don't think you know it's fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, move locations. Kick the family out and actually I'm

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Speaker 2: Matt Ishbia, are you were you aware of this guy

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Speaker 3: I'm not in the owner circles, but if you do

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Speaker 3: Will he would be the youngest majority owner in the

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Speaker 3: well with the family business United Wholesale Mortgage. So I

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Speaker 2: Okay, good to know. And then, of course what everybody

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Speaker 2: So got to be this guy's I mean, he's a hooper.

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Speaker 2: I like, look, we know nothing about this guy. What

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Speaker 2: Yes, rich asshole gets richer, you know. News at eleven

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Speaker 2: Can he like? Can he say?

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Speaker 2: No, I actually don't want it. Me and my brother

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Speaker 2: you know, there was some some spicy clips going around

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it was a bad night for the Suns

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Speaker 3: you could see Bismack Biambo and other teammates try and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I mean, by all accounts, they didn't

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Speaker 2: this is a close game. We let up the lead.

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Speaker 2: Gotta be sharper. There's no Booker. You know, Chris Paul

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Speaker 3: You think that Ayton could be on he's on the

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Speaker 3: We'll see if this all falls apart. And obviously Ate

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Speaker 3: he has been playing well, there's no doubt he's been

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Speaker 2: Well, let's move to another big story yesterday and we

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Speaker 3: to read that the Bulls have had multiple team meetings

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Speaker 3: offensive end. I think it just takes the oldest guy

433
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: in the room, the guy who doesn't give an f

434
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: to say it. And that's what Goran Drags said in

435
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: a bunch of interviews you know, posted on the Athletic

436
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: the last few days. We're not playing for each other.

437
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that, someone told me. And he

438
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 3: was easy to talk about sacrifice, but somebody else's sacrifice

439
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 3: is easier to talk about. When it comes to you,

440
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: you have to sacrifice for the team, that's a different story.

441
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 3: And I think that's what's happening. Look, Zach Levine doesn't

442
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 3: look like himself, and you could see body language. He's

443
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: pissed all the time. Even yesterday, even in a win,

444
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: he brought up the ball and gave to Patrick Williams.

445
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: Patrick Williams decided to drive it. He throws up his

446
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: arms like what's going on here? I really just don't

447
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: think they love playing with each other and they aren't

448
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: playing with each other, and I think Lonzo Ball probably

449
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: covered some of those issues last year. He only played

450
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 3: thirty five games. They're ten games above five hundred when

451
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: he played, and then they're five hundred the rest of

452
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 3: the way, So they they obviously miss him and they

453
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 3: missed leadership. Really, Lavine, it hasn't been that type of guy.

454
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: Derozen has never really been that type of guy. Vooch

455
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 3: hasn't been that type of guy, and so I think

456
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: they miss a point guard that kind of brings things

457
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: together in Lonzo Ball.

458
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: I think also to include in all of this was

459
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: the funny timing of Billy Donovan getting the secret you

460
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 2: want to call it, that extension during the offseason, when

461
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: we found that out a couple of weeks ago, and

462
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: we're like, what the why the hell was that a

463
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: secret and why are we just learning about that now?

464
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: And this article that we had on the Athletic it

465
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: felt like it was a lot coming from Zach Lavine himself.

466
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: Let me put it that way in terms of this

467
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: story and how the conflict or not seeing out eye,

468
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: like I said, with especially Billy Donovan, You're right, I

469
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: think there was less to the DeRozan and Levine like,

470
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: you know, hitting each other or something like that. These

471
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: guys were like best buds, like not long ago out

472
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: in an All Star game. So I don't think it

473
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: was that as much as probably Billy Donovan and Zach Lavine.

474
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: And a big part of it is a lot of

475
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: the effort that zach Lavine does and does not give,

476
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: I think from possession of possession. Now, last night, you know,

477
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: the AP Report has a hilarious line for one night,

478
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: all was well with the Bulls again. Okay, you're playing

479
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat missing some of their star guys, but

480
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: they were down at halftime, and they roared back with

481
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: a really big, strong second half. Levigne twenty one points

482
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: on a more efficient just thirteen shot attempts, seven assists,

483
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: six boards, team high plus twenty one, and then DeRozan

484
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: getting his and Vouch getting his. I mean, they had

485
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: their quote unquote big three all contributing on the same night,

486
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: and I thought they at least showed a little backbone

487
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: last night, not rolling over and dying after halftime and

488
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: coming out and getting the victory over a Heat team

489
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: that's just as perplexing as the Bulls. Maybe, but I

490
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe maybe it turns their season around a

491
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: little bit here, because wins cure all. But you know,

492
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: just because they beat the Heat, it's not like it's

493
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: a done deal and they're moving on and moving up

494
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: the rankings.

495
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, Yeah, they won a game without Jimmy Butler

496
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: and Kyle Lowry on the other side. And it's odd

497
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: because the team is middle of the pack defensively, which

498
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: is all you really want with this Bulls team. When

499
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: they're starting DeRozan, Levigne and Vucevic middle of the pack,

500
00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 3: that's totally fine. It's the offense which is surprising. And

501
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: I think the Patrick Williams continuing to start him is

502
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: a problem. And yeah, I think they missed a glue

503
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: guy in Lonzo Balvy. That's that's that's what they are.

504
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: That's that's the same guys coming back, and yeah, they

505
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 3: aren't really playing for each other.

506
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Also, weird note from this game. Last night's Bulls Heat

507
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: game the league's first with zero blocked shots since the

508
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: Pistons Raptors back in twenty sixteen. Zero blocks, not a

509
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: single one. Now they sometimes go back and change that

510
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: after the fact. I don't know who's got the sucker

511
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: job of having to rewatch the tape and find out

512
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: whether there was a block or not, or whether they

513
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: want a credit one. But I checked this morning and

514
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: that box score still said zero, which is just a

515
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: little random fact. Therefore your task. Two guys that were

516
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: in that twenty sixteen game or in last night's game?

517
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: Can you name him?

518
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: Sorry?

519
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: Who were the teams Piston's raptors back in sixteen? Obviously,

520
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: uh Bulls heat last night? Who are the two players

521
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: that played at least in the game. Once obvious Derozen.

522
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: The other one's a little more difficult. He was on

523
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: the Pistons now is on the Bulls. You made a

524
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: short about this man not long ago.

525
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: I made a short about a.

526
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 4: Man not live.

527
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: Name this player. I just flipped name this player on

528
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: you about the same player, Drummy, Yeah, Andre Drummond, Big penguint.

529
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: He got some minutes there last night. Didn't get a

530
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: block though, because no one did. I'm just final thought

531
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: here whether you want to buy this turmoil here between

532
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: the Bulls superstars and their crappy start and they got

533
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: to like make a move the idea of some other

534
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 2: teams with their stars, like Zach Lavine, any possibility. I mean,

535
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: we tried to trade Vouch on yesterday's podcast, which we

536
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: found to be a difficult sort of task, Like who

537
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: really wants them? Who's really giving up much for him?

538
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: He's an expiring deal all that, But any possibility at

539
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Zach Levine and that Gold contract being explored as moving off.

540
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: Of him or no way, Jose, what kind of value

541
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna get for Zach Lavine? Right now? He ain't.

542
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: He ain't leading his team. The numbers are not the

543
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: same as last year. He does look like the surgery

544
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: bothered him, still bothering him now. He's not looking like

545
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 3: the same player max first year of a Max deal.

546
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: I think his body language and he has to improve

547
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: it for this team to get better. I ain't putting

548
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: the blame on DeRozan or others. It's got to be

549
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: on the guy who gets paid a ton. So I

550
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 3: don't see the trade. Do you see a trade coming?

551
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: A lot of people in the stream team and you've

552
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: probably seen this online, some sort of Lakers Bulls trade

553
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: where Westbrook's contract going back and of course the picks

554
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: to get the Lakers a player like Levine. You know,

555
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: there was obviously even Deroza was rumored at a point.

556
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: My favorite one here in the stream team is Levine

557
00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: for Beale. Just swap him. Okay, that would be hilarious.

558
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: But no, I don't think it's likely that a guy

559
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: like Zach Lavine's going to be moved right now. But

560
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: I do think that whole Billy Donovan extension is something

561
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: and is just as perplexing as it was a couple

562
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Now if they are continuing to butt heads,

563
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: but maybe a win helps everything and they'll get a

564
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: little win streak going here. I know Trey would be happy.

565
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: The other games last night Tasks, we had the Knicks

566
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: destroying the Warriors one thirty two to ninety four, Bing bong.

567
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: The Knicks are back. They're hot. That's eight straight wins

568
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: for them. Jokic had a triple double a good old

569
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: clean thirteen thirteen thirteen to lead the Nuggets past the Grizzlies.

570
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: That was the late game on TNT. And then Lowry Markinen,

571
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: Yes there's dapper Jokic, Lowry Markinen scoring thirty eight to

572
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: lead the Jazz past the Pistons one twenty six, one eleven.

573
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on one of those three games.

574
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the Knicks ridiculous, ridiculous. They ran the Warriors

575
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: out of town obviously. Yeah. No Curry, no way, Ga

576
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: and a couple guys off the bench not there, and

577
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: Michael Green and Dante DiVincenzo. But the Knicks are bullying

578
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: teams and playing with pace and playing hard. They are

579
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: finding their way. It's it's wild. So the starting five

580
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: that they've settled on and Brunson, Quentin Grimes in the

581
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: back court, r J Barrett, Julius Randall and Mitchell, that's

582
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: the fourth best starting unit in the league teams that

583
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: of units that have played one hundred and fifty minutes together.

584
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: That is incredible. They are rolling. Do you know who

585
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: the three better teams are in terms of their five

586
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: starters beating the other teams starters.

587
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: The Warriors were really good for The Warriors.

588
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: Are still there. It's crying. It kind of wild. The

589
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: Warriors still there. They're five when they go together.

590
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: The Celtics, Yeah, the Celtics lot more.

591
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just you just mentioned them.

592
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: I just mentioned them.

593
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're going through the games there, oh, Nuggets, Yeah,

594
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: the Nuggets, Oh wow.

595
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: There you go.

596
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: So the Knicks, Yeah, the fourth best point differential per

597
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: possession of their starting five, and they've got twelve of

598
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: their next fifteen against sub five hundred teams. It's wild.

599
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: They're playing hard, they're playing tough, they're killing teams. It

600
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: sort of makes sense that the Nuggets, as you mentioned

601
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: the thirteen and thirteen and thirteen from Jokic, that their

602
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: starters are good because they depleted their bench coming into

603
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: the season. But Jokic the god, he has brought them

604
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: into a tie for the one seed. The Nuggets are

605
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 3: up there even despite them depleting their bench. You got

606
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: another Jeff Green huge jam last night.

607
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: I can't believe that this guy, I mean, does he

608
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: get just drug tested after every game at this point?

609
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: Like he was soaring on that.

610
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It's it's crazy you think it every year.

611
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be his last year. Adding to the mixtape.

612
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: But man and Jokic obviously adding to the mixtape with

613
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: the assists there, although if you you were talking about

614
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: checking the tape and blocks and all that, he had

615
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: a fourteenth assist that he didn't get Katie Wingy broke

616
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: it down. But let's go with the triple thirteen's there. Yeah,

617
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: pretty cool, and yeah, he's dressed to impress. We saw

618
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: that suit. My god, the suit is beautiful. He was

619
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: asked about it after the game on TNT and he

620
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: simply said.

621
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: It's business. It's business time.

622
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: No what he said. What he said was, yeah, really,

623
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: it's showing up to work, gotta wear a suit, looking

624
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: good and leading a team again tied for the one seed,

625
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: quietly with Jamal Murray not looking like himself and Aaron

626
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Gordon playing probably his best ball of his career, could

627
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: easily be an All Start joining him if the Nuggets

628
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: continue to rise in the standings.

629
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, Look, I could see I could

630
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: squint and see Aaron Gordon as like an All Star

631
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: injury replacement right if one or two is needed. I

632
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: don't maybe see him getting selected, but he's played awesome

633
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: for them. What was your favorite Yokic pass from last

634
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: night though? Was it the one where he I mean

635
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: both were of the no look variety, but the one

636
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: where he sort of in the paint sort of flings

637
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: it over his shoulder, or the one where he you know,

638
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: h hut and dropped it between the legs to a

639
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: cutting Brown who threw down the dunk. Which one you're

640
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: going away.

641
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, between the legs for Brown, no doubt. I mean

642
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: that was.

643
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: You know what.

644
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: Respect. I've been noticing this from some of the Nuggets players.

645
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: I have no idea it's true, but some of these

646
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: incredible yokic passes, like these unbelievable dimes where you're like,

647
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Speaker 2: how did he see that come in or how did

648
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Speaker 2: he slip it through there. I think a lot of

649
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Speaker 2: these guys Brown included last night, they're purposely trying to

650
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Speaker 2: throw it down to make the highlight even better that one.

651
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: I was like, he could have laid that in quite

652
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: easily last night on that pass, and he's like, no, no, no,

653
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: I gotta dunk this make it even more of a highlight.

654
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: And I feel like Gordon's Gordon likes a dunk everything.

655
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Speaker 2: But of course the's a couple other guys where I've

656
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: seen a couple times this year I'm like, hmm, respect,

657
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: they respect the pass so much that they're trying to

658
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Speaker 2: hammer it down when they could have just laid it in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting hearing Kevin Durant was talking to

660
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Speaker 3: Jamal Crawford about dropping Daniel Gafford. We had a short

661
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Speaker 3: talk in shorts. We had a short about you know,

662
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Speaker 3: Gafford and getting into the splits there, and Durant said

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Speaker 3: that he pulled up for the j because he's thinking

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Speaker 3: to himself, what's gonna look cooler pulling up for the

665
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Speaker 3: J or throwing it down. I do agree, you drop

666
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: a guy the J is the way to go. But

667
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: he could have thrown down a jam too. That's unique

668
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 3: in those situations. All guys pull up, you got space

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Speaker 3: shoot it. But he said in the moment, that's how

670
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Speaker 3: how fast his brain is working in basketball terms. Now,

671
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: just gonna pull up looks cooler then throwing down a duck.

672
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: But I think the duck would have looked even more unique,

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Speaker 3: is all I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, good wins from the Knicks, the Nugs, and the

675
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: Jazz who continue to stay above five hundred and lowry marketed.

676
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, at this point, it's gonna

677
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: be You're gonna be like upset if he doesn't make

678
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: the All Star team, right, if he doesn't get selected.

679
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: The guy keeps putting up like thirty five and thirty

680
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: eight last night, nine threes, like he has to be there.

681
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: He has to be the representative of the Jazz, especially

682
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Speaker 2: in a game in Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 3: I know people expected him to fade a little bit

684
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Speaker 3: because he has tend to hasn't had this type of

685
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Speaker 3: season in the NBA. But he is staying strong. Boy.

686
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Speaker 3: Thirty eight last night, yeah, tying his career high and

687
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: a new personal best of nine threes. And it could

688
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: have been easily could have been forty. He left the

689
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: game with two thirty nine to go, could have got

690
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: to forty. But yeah, he's he's staying so solid. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: if it's coming down to guy like Marken and versus

692
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon for one of those all star spots, got

693
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Speaker 3: to go to Larry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that, And that is why I think

695
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: Ag then goes to like the injury replacement type level.

696
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 2: But then again, there are not a ton of bigs

697
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: in the West. That's it's all guards. It's like, oh

698
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: my god, how do we leave off this particular guard

699
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: or this particular guard. It's it's a it's a smaller

700
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: pool of like all star level players. When it gets

701
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: to the forwards and center spots in the West, well

702
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: maybe AG straight up makes it his case is helped

703
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: if the Nuggets have the number one seed. For sure,

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00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: in the Western Conference. But voting is now official. Have

705
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: you voted yet?

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: Tests is it today?

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00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: Starters? Yesterday?

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Speaker 3: It would launch Yeah, okay, Well I'm voting for Lowry.

710
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: No doubt I'll get him in there. But yeah, thanks

711
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: for the reminder. Is it a double day? I love

712
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: double days?

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Speaker 2: Double days. There's a couple of them. I don't have

714
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: them circled on my calendar, but if when I find out,

715
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: I'll let you know. YEA like your vote to.

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Speaker 3: Count twice exactly, of course, but I like no repercussions

717
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: for my vote, just like I'll have no repercussions for

718
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: telling Die Soulis to yes, do this. He's throwing in

719
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: their nugs plus sixteen hundred to win the NBA Championship.

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Speaker 3: Do it, yes, sir? Do it right? And high why not?

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Speaker 2: I mean, those are some juicy odds. Look, the team

722
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: doesn't even have Michael Porter Junior playing for them, and

723
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: they're they're racking these up, these wins up.

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Speaker 3: I get to the obviously get to the finals. With

725
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: what's happening in the West.

726
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, if it breaks right, for sure,

727
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: you got an MVP guy in Jokic. Yeah, that's an

728
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: insane at all. Well, sprinkle a little bit on every

729
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: team in the West. Cover your bases, because who knows

730
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: who comes out of there. Okay, let's take our first break.

731
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Speaker 2: When we come back, though, we're gonna hit the beach

732
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: to answer a few of your NBA questions and comments.

733
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Speaker 2: All right, no, Dunk's still here in the yard. If

734
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Speaker 2: you're joining us live on YouTube, hit the like button,

735
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: play your part. Let's slip this news in real quick

736
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Speaker 2: before we hit the beach. It happened right before we

737
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Speaker 2: went live this morning, WOES reporting after six seasons, Atlanta's

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Speaker 2: president of basketball operations, Travis Schlank is moving into a

739
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: senior advisory role. GM Landry Fields will oversee basketball operations.

740
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Speaker 2: And then we were saying how Schlank acquired significant talent,

741
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: including Tree Young and they reached the Eastern Finals in

742
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: twenty one. I guess an official report or announcement coming

743
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: from the Hawks CACA later today. Any thoughts on Schlank

744
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: moving into this different role and Landry Field's taken over Duty's.

745
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: Tests, Well, it's a good move to get a guy,

746
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: younger guy in there without really shaking up the front office.

747
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: It's not a firing it's a move over to a

748
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: different position for Travis Schlank and for Landry Fields to

749
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: really take over. I believe in Landry Sure, Travis Schlank's

750
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: moves haven't entirely worked out. Obviously, one conference finals and

751
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: then a fallback since then has not been what the

752
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: Hawks fans have desired or obviously what ownership desired, although

753
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: I guess you would think about it, skeets. A few

754
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: months ago he basically traded the entire cupboard for de

755
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: Jonte Murray and now Landry Fields is taking over. So

756
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: are they peeved with that particular move, because I mean

757
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: they approved something where he absolutely whit for it with

758
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: that move, But it sure feels like they are peeved

759
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: with it. They want something entirely different with Landry Fields.

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Speaker 2: I always wonder when something like this happens to a guy,

761
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: a guy whose name has been in trade rumors for

762
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: like at least two years running in John Collins, does

763
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: it make it more likely something happens here as we

764
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: get closer and closer to the trade deadline with now

765
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Landry Fields in theory picking up those phones, making those

766
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: calls and having those connections with the other gms and

767
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: the other people and in charge of the decisions on

768
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: the other teams to maybe move him or the opposite.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Fields is like, no, no, no, Collins

770
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Speaker 2: can we can keep them here? And that's a good

771
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: piece and the contract he is isn't all that bad.

772
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know fum guessing pull me down as

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Speaker 2: the first option there that this helps a guy like

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Speaker 2: Collins potentially get moved for something.

775
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Speaker 3: I totally agree, because Landry Field's a grinder in the NBA,

776
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: somebody who found his way in the NBA, was well

777
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 3: liked in the NBA. And it's like the old thing

778
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: that people say about coaches that those type of role

779
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: players often make better coaches than superstars because they had

780
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: the number one they had to work for. They're better

781
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: probably communicators, they take direction better. And maybe Landry Fields

782
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: understands that the John Collins factor better talent than they're

783
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: what they're going to get back, but maybe not the

784
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: best fit chemistry wise, and maybe Landry yeah, it makes

785
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: that change and understands that there's got to be a

786
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: different mix in that locker room. Maybe it's Jake out,

787
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: or maybe it's somebody to just piss people off.

788
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: It's possible that date McMillan is ultimately let go too

789
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 2: and they bring in a coaching change. There's that. There's

790
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: that option too, with someone new above you the shots.

791
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: That's true, That's that's true. I guess why wouldn't they

792
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: do that first if they're getting But uh, I can't wait.

793
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: We'll find out. Let's hit the beach. Let's do it. Yeah,

794
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: stepping on the beach the only place to read your

795
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: emails and tweets. And we need the beach here in Atlanta.

796
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: I don't know where you guys are tuning in, but

797
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: it is cold here in the South. It's totally gonna

798
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: get colder. Tests Are you worried about your pipes freezing

799
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: in John's Creek there you're by a creek.

800
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: No, yeah, you're gonna run your pipes theres you gotta

801
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 3: run the pipes.

802
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: No, I'm definitely not going to do that. But it

803
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: is to get h down below freezing here, which is very,

804
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: very rare for Atlanta, no matter no matter what season

805
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 2: it is, that just doesn't happen often.

806
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: Even during the day. It's gonna be you gotta run

807
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: your water.

808
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: Skis' not doing that. I'm not gonna be doing that.

809
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: I'll take my chances on that. But yeah, we're on

810
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: the beach because it's a little warmer and that's where

811
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: you guys send your emails and your tweets no dunks

812
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: at the Athletic dot Com or tweet them in at

813
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: No dunk sinc. I set off the top. My god,

814
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: we got like, I don't know, we got like almost

815
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: one hundred great not okay, all of them were not great.

816
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: But I want to say fifty really good tweets last

817
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: night with some good questions and comments. But we'll get

818
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: to a couple here. First, one from Jesse. What has

819
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: to happen to the NETS team wise for Katie to

820
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: get serious MVP consideration?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: Again, thank you to Jesse tweeting that in do you

823
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: do you buy? Sort of Jesse's premise here tasks that

824
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: we're always talking about the MVP table and who's at

825
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: the top of whatever, the MVP ladder and all that,

826
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: and KD has been overlooked despite unbelievable numbers his team

827
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: now getting some success. Is that fair? Is Jesse right?

828
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Jesse is one hundred percent right. We've been saying it

829
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: for a little bit now. His numbers are comparable to

830
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: basically every star around the league. Yeah, but he's at

831
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 3: a disadvantage. He's fighting it uphill because his locker room

832
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: has been turned upside down for the first month of

833
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: the season. But what does he have to do, Jesse, Well,

834
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: he just has to keep doing what he's doing is

835
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: he's been so solid and steady all season long. But

836
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: I think, like, let's say he's at the same level

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00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: as Jason Tatum and the Celtics if they get up

838
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: even that high, if they're able to climb that high

839
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: and right.

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Speaker 2: I mean like they're three games back in the Celtics

841
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: right now, that's it.

842
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Celtics have fallen off. The Bucks are right

843
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: with them. Bucks are playing incredibly well. It looks like

844
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: the one seed is theirs to lose now because they're

845
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: back healthy. They've they've exceeded my expectations for the regular season.

846
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: But I think if Durant was even with Tatum, he

847
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: still wouldn't get it, just because he'd be punished by

848
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: voters because of the locker room, because of all those stories, because.

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Speaker 2: Because you requested a trade in the off season too.

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00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: Do you think because the whole the whole kit and kaboodle. Yeah,

851
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: that's part of it. The Kyrie thing is part of it.

852
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: The Nash firing is part of it. Yeah, the whole thing.

853
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: But if he's able to recover, and I would say

854
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: have a better record than the Celtics, if they if

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Speaker 3: they are able to beat the Celtics in the standings,

856
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,479
Speaker 3: then he that's his case. And so so that would

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00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: mean between fifty five and sixty wins, and yeah, that

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00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: would that would be it for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it is overlooked in the sense

860
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: just how great this season has been for Kevin Durant,

861
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: Like this is the greatest season he's ever had in

862
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: terms of just pure efficiency, like effective field goal percentage,

863
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: still scoring thirty games, he's averaged more per game, but

864
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: not this efficient, which is which is pretty wild. I

865
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 2: mean it's almost like it's Curry like in that sense,

866
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: right where it was like Curry's won MVPs and he's

867
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: having an even better season than he's ever had. I

868
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: think that's sort of going on with Durant right now.

869
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: But uphill battle to climb to win it, for sure.

870
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: I think because the voters are not going to feel

871
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: great about giving their vote to someone that did want

872
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: their coach fired. Okay, that's happened before in the NBA,

873
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: and obviously they moved off of nationally seemed to have

874
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: worked out, so maybe he was right and or like

875
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: the ultimatum of like trade me, all that stuff happening

876
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: in the off season. But he's still there and he's

877
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: kicking ass. I think he's like squarely at the table

878
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: though right now too. I think because of Curry's injury.

879
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: I think maybe a little bit because of the Celtics

880
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: and Tatum having not a rough patch by any means,

881
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: but they were just like lights out in the first

882
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: six weeks that it's a lot closer Katie Tatum if

883
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: you're picking between the one or two of them to

884
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: sit there with Yokich and with the honest and I mean,

885
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: who am I forgetting at this point? I'm probably forgetting

886
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: oh Luke, I guess. But his record sucks now to

887
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: his team dipping below five hundred.

888
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's there.

889
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: He's there. I pool for him to win it. I mean,

890
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: like who has a tougher chance to win it, Yokic

891
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: or Kadi because you'll kitch. Of course, the narrative of

892
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: like they don't want to give it to him three

893
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: years in a row. Only the greatest of the greats

894
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: have ever done that.

895
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, it's probably Durant I know,

896
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: the Jokich obviously, Yeah, the two timer that hurts him.

897
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: But he also has the ability to take his team

898
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: to number one in the standings as we're seeing right now,

899
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: which would be so different than the last couple of years.

900
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: So he's got that advantage in a way. While yeah,

901
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: the Brooklyn net stuff is just so fresh on every

902
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: voter's mind, all that crap going around that team, including yeah,

903
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: his his demand for a trade. So the Bucks are

904
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: making it hard and Yannis is making it hard on

905
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: everybody too, the way they're climbing the standings. They dealt

906
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: with Chris Middleton no problem, and now they're the best

907
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: team in basketball. They've they've surpassed the Celtics.

908
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the MVP tracker on Basketball Reference has Yokic at

909
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: number one with a nearly forty seven percent probability you know,

910
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: to three pt here. Then it's Giannis at about fifteen percent.

911
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: In second, it's Luca with his unbelievable stats despite the

912
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: team being fifteen and sixteen, He's at eleven percent, and

913
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: then it's Tatum, Durant Sabonis yes at six A, d

914
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: Mitchell Curry, and Zion Okay, so that's what the Basketball

915
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: Reference MVP tracker currently has it as. But yeah, Katie's

916
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: sitting at the table. I think that's for sure.

917
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to our second male question here

918
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 3: from dream Googles. That's his handle.

919
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: That may have been a typo by me.

920
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 6: I think it was dreams uh never right, but anyway, Yeah,

921
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 6: so dream Googles says the idea for the flexible Christmas

922
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 6: slate is actually great, as we talked about, just change

923
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 6: the games if someone is injured.

924
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: In fact, I'd love to hear a segment about an

925
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: ideal Christmas schedule for this year. As of right now,

926
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: dream Googles, I've been dreaming about this, slash goggles. Sure,

927
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: I've been dreaming about new graphics for our male questions.

928
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 3: These are looking great, simple, simple, These are looking great

929
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: through my dream goggles. I'm seeing some nice graphics here.

930
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: And if skeis, if you were looking at the December

931
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: twenty fifth schedule, I know you said, why can't we

932
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 3: change it always? I totally, I totally think that we

933
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: should be able to. We should one hundred percent. It's killer.

934
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 3: It's killer for the league. Even though Morant's playing the Warriors,

935
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: and you got Morant there, Curry is not anymore. Curry

936
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: will not be playing. It hurts. It hurts. With all

937
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: the promotional materials out there, the first game I see

938
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 3: every time a promo comes up for Christmas, it's Warriors

939
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: and the Grizzlies, And obviously the Warriors are not the

940
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 3: same without Andrew Wiggins, I mean, Steph Curry. So get

941
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: get some get somebody else in there. What would you do,

942
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: Skeetz if you.

943
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: Could, Well, let's let's quickly remind everybody of what the

944
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: actual Christmas Day schedule is, because I don't think it's terrible.

945
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean it sucks the injuries and all that, but here,

946
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: here it is. For just a reminder, it's the seventy

947
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: six Ers and Knicks at twelve pm. They get us

948
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: started there, Nick's always get that a slot for the

949
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: most part. Lakers at Mavericks two thirty pm, Eastern Bucks Celtics. Oh,

950
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: I like that, five PM Eastern Grizzlies, Warriors at eight

951
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: and then Suns Nuggets at ten thirty. Again, like that's

952
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. When you have to make this schedule

953
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: in what August or whatever they do it, that's not bad.

954
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: And I remember we were like, Okay, yeah, that's pretty good.

955
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh sure, but yeah, a couple of the injuries or

956
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: maybe some of these disappointing teams, it diminishes that schedule

957
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 2: a little bit. So let's flex it up, baby. Now

958
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: here are my rules. One, if your record is under

959
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: five hundred, you're out. Okay, I'm just gonna make that rule.

960
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 2: So that means the Lakers are not gonna be playing

961
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: on my Christmas Day. That means, unfortunately, the Mavericks are

962
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: not gonna be playing on my Christmas Day. That means

963
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: I can't put on my Homer hat and play the

964
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: Raptors on Christmas Day. So that's just gonna be one

965
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: of my unwritten rules. The other one is if your

966
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 2: superstar player is injured, then you're probably coming off the

967
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: board too. Mainly, what I'm talking about here is the

968
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: Steph Curry injury. We know he's not playing, so let's

969
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: take the Warriors off of Christmas Day. Let's give him

970
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: that day off. They're always playing on Christmas Day anyway.

971
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: But I had one other thought here too, before I

972
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 2: get you to my five that I want to see,

973
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: how about as a form of punishment task either like

974
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: the worst two teams in the league or something, or

975
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: maybe we even put it to a vote, teams with

976
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: the worst vibes, teams that for whatever reason, people have

977
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: soured on or disappointing teams. Like a punishment is, Hey,

978
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: you guys got to play at like nine am on

979
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: Christmas morning. So it's like we would have teams trying

980
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: to avoid being in that spot. No one wants to

981
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: play at nine am in the Christmas morning. I mean,

982
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind it on my TV while we're ripping

983
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: gifts and stuff like that. Sure, just have it on

984
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: in the background. Gives them something to avoid, though they

985
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: would play their asses off to try and stay out.

986
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 4: Of that game.

987
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: Okay, but let's take it a step further. Empty arena,

988
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 3: no cameras.

989
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 2: Okay, no cameras.

990
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm not watching that at nine am. That's kind of

991
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: a punishment for the world.

992
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: No, how about this, Okay, let's compromise. No fans. They

993
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: got to be there at nine am to play to tipball,

994
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: but we only use like the backboard cameras, like through

995
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: your NBA overtime app or something like that. It's all

996
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: automatic cameras, Like, we don't have to have a poor

997
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: tn T or ESPN crew in there.

998
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: Just let me out. We got robots for that if

999
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: we want. Yeah, yeah, but you're killing the fans, like

1000
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: the people at home. I don't want to I don't

1001
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 3: want to watch that.

1002
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: You don't have to watch it?

1003
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I know, but you're like, if you're the

1004
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: if you're a Rockets fan, you're gonna have that on.

1005
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: It's no good for anybody.

1006
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: I think it could be the most entertaining game of

1007
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: the day because it would be like a shit show.

1008
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: These people like they're all tired and hungover, they're all

1009
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: they're angry as hell. All these players and coaches would

1010
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: be pissed that the least first thing to play at

1011
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: nine in the morning.

1012
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: Anyway, I think I love watching hungover people play basketball.

1013
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things to do.

1014
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: Joss, he or she agrees with me. Okay, let's get

1015
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: to my actual schedule. If I'm flexing away, here's what

1016
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to propose to you.

1017
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: A tasks.

1018
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: I have no problem keeping the Knicks in MSG at

1019
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: the twelve twelve excuse me, twelve pm slot. I have

1020
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: no problem with the Knicks in that twelve pm slot.

1021
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: All right.

1022
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm a man of history. I like it tradition, and

1023
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: they're They're on an eight game winster, so they're playing

1024
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 2: really well. They could have a ten game win streak

1025
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: going in if they can take care of the Raptors

1026
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: and the Bulls this week. I think it's the Wraps

1027
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: to Night Bulls on Friday. They could be on a

1028
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: ten game win streak come Christmas Day.

1029
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're a man of history. They played the

1030
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 3: first NBA game on this court.

1031
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: Well, so there you go.

1032
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 3: This was the court in Toronto in nineteen forty six.

1033
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 3: They should play on this court.

1034
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 2: Okay. I'm it won't be against the Huskies though, Okay,

1035
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: it's going to be the Brooklyn Nets versus the New

1036
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: York Knicks. Just keep it in state. It's a rivalry

1037
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 2: we've tried to make happens. It doesn't really sort of

1038
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: catch on. But Nets are playing great right now. They

1039
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: got the superstars to draw some people in the casuals.

1040
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: Nets Knicks twelve pm Eastern from MSG the greatest sports

1041
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: arena in the world. Okay, I can't.

1042
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: Believe Christmas is four days away. I was just I

1043
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: was just thinking you said that Luca isn't making the

1044
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: list because he's sub five hundred. Well, he's got time

1045
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 3: to do it. They doesn't have time, not a lot

1046
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 3: four days of ratings as well.

1047
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: Okay, So nets Nicks, I'm gonna keep the Buck Celtics game.

1048
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 2: That's a perfect matchup right now, two of the best

1049
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: teams in the Eastern Conference. I'm just gonna I'm gonna

1050
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: move it up to the two thirty slot. I prefer

1051
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: that time on Christmas Day. I mean, we get into

1052
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 2: the five I've got Christmas dinners, Like, I'm gonna distract

1053
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: it at that point. So yeah, I'm putt I'm putting

1054
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: it to two thirty.

1055
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: But we're keeping more important time slot for you. Yeah,

1056
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 3: you're more you're more alert, I hear it.

1057
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1058
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 3: Also, it's like the third game. That's a bad time slot.

1059
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: Street games in a row. It's like watching three NFL

1060
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: games in a row, done by the third game.

1061
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, right right, So okay, nets Nicks Bucks Celtics.

1062
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: Then at five PM, I just want hopefully some some

1063
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: highlights something to yeah, to reinvigorate me and watching the hoops.

1064
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: How do you feel about a Cavaliers Grizzlies game at

1065
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: five pm on your television set on Christmas Day? I

1066
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: mean Donovan Mitchell versus Jah Moran. I mean, somebody's going

1067
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: for forty in that game. I will guarantee you that.

1068
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: I like adding the calves. I just hope that the

1069
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: Pels get added as well.

1070
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 2: Don't you worry? All right, just make it's our next game.

1071
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: It's the real rivalry right now in the NBA. It's

1072
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: Suns Pelicans.

1073
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

1074
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: So that's where we're putting it eight pm Eastern. I

1075
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: don't think that's too crazy. I wanted. I went back

1076
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: and forth. Do we put it in Phoenix or do

1077
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 2: we put it in New Orleans? I think that crowd

1078
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: right now in the in the blender there in New Orleans,

1079
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: I think they. I think they would be a fun

1080
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: crowd on Christmas Day. So I'm going to give them

1081
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: the home team and we're gonna let them play for

1082
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: what the fifth time. They've already played four times, so

1083
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: it's an issue. But who cares? Just do it again?

1084
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: No one's really keeping track. So Sun's Pelicans at eight

1085
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: pm and then my final game. A little wild card here.

1086
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: I think Jokic has to be on. I think I

1087
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: almost think it should be a rule. If you're the

1088
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: reigning MVP, you should be featured to some extent. So

1089
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: Nuggets are going to Sacramento the Kings. We might see

1090
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: the beamlet on the top of the Christmas tree of

1091
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 2: the Golden One Center.

1092
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 4: We might not.

1093
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 2: And I think we have an entertaining Nuggets Kings game

1094
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: at night. So there you go. I'm going Nets, Knicks, Bucks, Celtics, Cavs, Grizzlies, Suns,

1095
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: Pelicans and that frisky rivalry. And then we got the

1096
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: Nuggets and Kings. What do you think?

1097
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: Listen, we all make mistakes. Uh throw it in the

1098
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: Sacramento Kings there at the end. It's wrong skeets.

1099
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: So who should it be?

1100
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: Well, it could easily be the Sixers, is fine, Joel

1101
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 3: Embiid banging.

1102
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to watch the Sexers.

1103
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: Nope, Joel Embiid versus Jokic. Come on, even this, I

1104
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: understand your rule. I'd rather have Luca versus the Nuggets.

1105
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be the Kings.

1106
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 4: I know.

1107
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: There's got to be a better solution than a Christmas

1108
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: a star on top of a Christmas tree. And I'm

1109
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: all up for thinking about a beam top of a

1110
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: tree as a solution if somehow, some way at home,

1111
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 3: I think that would be cool. But I'm not up

1112
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: for the Kings at the end.

1113
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: I need fun basketball at the end. I don't want

1114
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: the Sixers. I'm sorry. A lot of people do not

1115
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: enjoy watching them. People are saying the Clippers. Do you

1116
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: watch the Clippers? It's not that enjoyable. They're good, but

1117
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: it's not enjoyable. Watch. Yeah, drugs man, that's a nightcap.

1118
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: You drop the Warriors, you drop the Lakers. I have

1119
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 3: to acceptable. I mean I would throw Luca in there

1120
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: or the Sixers in there. But all in all, the

1121
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: New York rivalry to start Bucks, Celtics, Calves, Memphis, I'm

1122
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: always up for that. Phoenix Pelicans needs to be done.

1123
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: And how Nuggets Blazers instead that instead of Nuggets kicks.

1124
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

1125
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: I see the stream team suggested that that's good. I

1126
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: got no problem with that. Okay, it's one of those

1127
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: ones we fixed. It should be flexed, Yeah, absolutely should.

1128
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: Next question from Brandon in a Vacuum, does Ogiann Andobe

1129
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: have more trade value than Carl Anthony Towns and if so,

1130
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: should it be that way?

1131
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: What a question, Brandon, What an incredible question, because it

1132
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: got me thinking from Zach Loove's report that everybody wants

1133
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: Ogan and Obi and that the package would be on

1134
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: part to something similar, not quite the package that was

1135
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: garnered for Donovan Mitchell, which is multiple draft picks. We're

1136
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: talking multiple draft picks and good players, essentially lowry marketing

1137
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: a recent draft pick in a bajie and calling Sexton

1138
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 3: and I started thinking, is it possible that Og would

1139
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: garner anything close to Karl Anthony Towns. Now, we're talking

1140
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: about two players on two very different trajectories. Karl Anthony

1141
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: Towns drafted in fifteen, and in the GM survey done

1142
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: by NBA dot Com after his rookie season and then

1143
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: again after his second season, was voted to be the

1144
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: player that GMS would most like to build her out,

1145
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 3: the number one player. And that's that feels like eons ago,

1146
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: and it was in terms of basketball, that's five full

1147
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: seasons ago. Now, Ogn and Obi obviously in a different trajectory,

1148
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: but but but but not the same package. I don't think,

1149
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: still a little short of Karl Anthony Towns package. But that's, uh,

1150
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 3: that's a very good question. And I still don't think

1151
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: OG's gonna garner anywhere close to Donovan Mitchell type package.

1152
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: No, this is this is insane. What are people talking about.

1153
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: I love Og, it's not even close. I mean, he's

1154
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: a great defensive player. Yes, he can score a little bit.

1155
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: Sure he's gotten better, no doubt. You know, he still

1156
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: is always injured. I mean, there is that. I don't know,

1157
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, we don't bring that up with this guy.

1158
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: But it's tough to get It's tough to get seventy

1159
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: games out of this guy, let alone a full season.

1160
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: So there's that that's a bit of an issue. And

1161
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: it's like he is not getting three or four draft picks. Like,

1162
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: We're not not even close to that sort of package.

1163
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like if you got two, okay two

1164
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: and obviously a young prospect maybe, But this is I mean,

1165
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised by these reports that I'm not

1166
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: surprised that everybody wants Og. Of course they would want him.

1167
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: He is a great third, fourth, fifth player on your team.

1168
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: He's not a superstar. But whatever you think of Karl

1169
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns. That's disrespectful to Cat. They're totally completely different players,

1170
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: but there's a big, big difference in my mind between

1171
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: the two. And I love defense. But this guy people

1172
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: say he is he's like Kawhi two point zero, like

1173
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: that Pump the breaks man. He's not. He's not that.

1174
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean he's I'm gonna say it. Oh,

1175
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: G's a lot closer to Aaron Gordon than he is

1176
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: to Kawhi Leonard. Okay, it's a lot closer. He's probably

1177
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 2: in between, but it's a lot closer to that one

1178
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: than it is up there at Kawai's peak.

1179
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 3: So that's right, Yeah, you were looking. If a team

1180
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: was going to trade for him, it would be a

1181
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: team that overpays because they're right at the championship level

1182
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: and they know that they need a number three. Essentially

1183
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 3: a guy who doesn't have to create for himself like

1184
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: an Aaron Gordon, but can create after everybody else you know,

1185
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 3: has their turn as secondary creator, and yeah, can defend

1186
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: like all hell, and it just takes one team to overpay. Yeah,

1187
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: when you said two draft picks, reminds me of the Bulls,

1188
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 3: essentially overpaying for Vucevic when they had Zach on the roster,

1189
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: and then they go and get Damorrow after Vouch. But

1190
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 3: they traded two first round picks plus a young player

1191
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: and Wendell Carter Junior. And that's going to look like

1192
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: a steal for uh the Magic. But if you're the

1193
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: team that trades for OGI, you want to win, you're

1194
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: and you're gonna give up that much. You're on the

1195
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 3: precipice of winning. You have to be. You're not trading.

1196
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 3: And like the Cavs did for Donovan Mitchell to be

1197
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 3: the number one guy, I would hope not. It doesn't.

1198
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't really make.

1199
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: Sense, right, right, right, But there you go, quite Brent,

1200
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: what was it? Brandon Brandon, Brandon Brandon Ebert, great question.

1201
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: And look, I mean Kat's not being moved because I

1202
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: don't even think he technically can be moved yet, right, Karl,

1203
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns. But I can't wait to see whether the

1204
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: Wolves move off of him and lean into the Anthony

1205
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: Edwards UH as your star player, as we've talked about,

1206
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: feels like all week long here the last couple of

1207
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: weeks with him being unlocked in space and being the playmaker.

1208
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: But we can't get to those hypotheticals just quite yet.

1209
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: And if I'm miss Ayuxierie, I do think about listening

1210
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 3: to all these offers because because his value couldn't be higher.

1211
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 3: And I thought in the off season if he was

1212
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: the primary part of a trade for Kevin Durant or

1213
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell, that they would be smart to do it

1214
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 3: because they need a different type of player on that team.

1215
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: There's no doubt, as our man John Schuman is throwing out,

1216
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: there are lots of overlap between him see Akam and Barnes.

1217
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 3: He doesn't great shots, and the Raps need chock creation

1218
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: one and and you bring up a good point about

1219
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: og not being healthy. Sees every single season he gets

1220
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: he's out for a stretch and and I think mass

1221
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: I probably should have pulled the trigger in the offseason.

1222
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 3: But again, as as we're getting here with from Brandon's question,

1223
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: from Zaklow's reporting, the trade value could not be higher

1224
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: for og An andobi uh And I don't know if

1225
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 3: it'll ever be higher. But he's he's worked himself into

1226
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 3: being a great supporting player, really really good.

1227
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 2: And I and I've put all the trust in the

1228
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: world in MASSIUJII to hopefully fleece somebody. If he makes

1229
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: the decision to move like an OG like, maybe he

1230
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: will get way more picks than I can even imagine

1231
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 2: he'd get in return. But I mean, he hasn't had

1232
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: a lot of trades Messi Jerry where you felt like

1233
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: he was a loser in a deal. I mean, there

1234
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: just haven't been many. It's the opposite. It's like, oh damn,

1235
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: holy crap, how did he How did he get that

1236
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: for X? You know, it's like he's he's got a

1237
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: pretty good track record when it comes to to making

1238
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: these moves. So if anyone could get what sounds insane

1239
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: to say out loud, like a Donovan Mitchell like package

1240
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: for OG, I'm sure it could be Messiah and a

1241
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: desperate team out there that wants to add a third

1242
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: or fourth player that could help their chances to go

1243
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: really far in a in a postseason run. But that's

1244
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: that seems far fetched.

1245
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: I think it does. But then you think about what

1246
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 3: the Wolves paid for Rudy Gobert, and then it becomes

1247
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: a little bit more. Yeah, like if it's they, that

1248
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: was an overpay because you thought they're one piece of

1249
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 3: way and.

1250
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: I did see, uh it was Ian Begley, I believe

1251
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: of s n Y dot TV. I mean a lot

1252
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: of this OG stuff was happening before the Knicks wind streak,

1253
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: so you know, take it with the green salt. But

1254
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: like the idea that the Knicks wanted Og, but it

1255
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: was happening before they went on like this eight game

1256
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: win streak, and maybe that's like, now that they've got

1257
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: a rotation and they're feeling good about their team, maybe

1258
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: it's less likely to happen like because I guess, like,

1259
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: are the Knicks considering RJ. Barrett as like as a

1260
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: player you would move for a player like Og, and

1261
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: then whatever else has to trade hands, Like you know,

1262
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: Schumann said the idea of the Raptors using RJ. Barrett

1263
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 2: as a score and someone create a little bit more sure,

1264
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: But I don't think the Knicks right now. You know,

1265
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: you're not gonna upset the apple cart when you got

1266
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: a Nick game win streaker. When are you're actually playing

1267
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: good defense under tips?

1268
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: No, and they're not one piece of way like that.

1269
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: I think when we're talking about all these it'll look

1270
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: like a good trade if you go and win the championship,

1271
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: If you're the Bucks and you overpay. It sure felt

1272
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 3: that way at the time for Drew Holliday. You trade

1273
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: three draft picks and two pick swaps. That's a lot,

1274
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: but you go win the championship all worth it. You

1275
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 3: just got to know that you're that close, and the

1276
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: Knicks don't know that they're that close. So yeah, that's

1277
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: that's what it comes down to. You win, give up

1278
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: all the draft picks, but if you don't, then you

1279
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: should probably keep them.

1280
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we want to get one more in or

1281
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: do you want to get to pick them and tweet

1282
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: the night on the other Yeah?

1283
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 3: I want to get to pick them and tweet it

1284
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: the night on the other side.

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01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do that. Keep those questions coming though, Like

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01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: we said, we'll hit the beach maybe later this week

1287
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 2: or even on that Monday YouTube show. Or hell, I

1288
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: ain't going anywhere. I'm avoiding the airports. I'm not flying

1289
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 2: up to Canada too cold, so I'll be here all

1290
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: week next week. So maybe we'll do a couple more

1291
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: just Q and a's on the live streams, but let's

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01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: take our final break when we come back, pick them

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01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: results and tweet the.

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01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 3: Night back here with no dunk skee. It's one other

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01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: thing we can do this week and on a YouTube

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01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: video on the December twenty sixth, as we talk Christmas Day,

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01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 3: we'll also bring up a lot of or open some

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01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: of our packages that we've been getting.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1300
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 3: And I'm showing you here a couple of nice stamps.

1301
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 3: These are Yogi bearrass stamps from something we just got

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: in the mail. So keep sending us to your packages.

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01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 3: Some great, great stuff coming in here, and it's I

1304
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 3: can't wait to open this. These are my Christmas gifts.

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 3: I can't wait to open this. One in particular, we

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: got from our man Jeremy Bippo.

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 2: This is the baseball cards in there.

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01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 4: Well that no skates.

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01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: No they're they're not. They're not. They're bigger than baseball

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 3: cards or something else. I don't know what they are.

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: Just open it, man, just open it now.

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01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: No I can't. I can't. It's not Christmas.

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01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 2: Uh you know you were never allowed to open uh

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: you know, one smaller.

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01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: To be beaten. Yeah, yeah, if I wanted to be beaten. Sure.

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01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: Wow, jeez, that's a good turn. Okay, pick the results.

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 2: Last night I had the Grizzlies because I thought, yeah,

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01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: after John Morant got ejected the game before he was

1319
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: going to come out send a message to the league.

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01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 2: Ball out he did. He was amazing. Everybody else was

1321
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 2: a piece of crap for the Grizzlies last night. It

1322
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: was embarrassing. Nobody could hit a shot from Memphis outside

1323
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: of John Morant. So the Nuggets and that bond villain

1324
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: Jokic got the easy victory, so they covered as dogs.

1325
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a straight up money line win. So

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01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 2: Denver wins and Tassin Tray slashed her own wins.

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 5: So I'm five and nine in fairness sets? Would you

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 5: have that otherwise? If you knew that yok was going

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01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 5: to show up.

1330
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 4: To the arena like that, No, no, no.

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01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 2: As soon as I saw that, I was in trouble.

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, when a guy shows up. I mean,

1333
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: I also think it should almost be illegal for a

1334
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: professional athlete who's basically seven feet tall to have shoulder

1335
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: pads in his uh in his suit, like you're they're

1336
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,839
Speaker 2: the most you know, fit chiseled people on the planets.

1337
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: You know, it makes them look even crazier in shape

1338
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: with the shoulder pads he's got, right, Am I alone

1339
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: in that No?

1340
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 5: Without quick But I mean goes really well with the turtleneck.

1341
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 5: I think it's it's just it's very key to have.

1342
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 3: Like all the angles I didn't notice, Yeah, well I

1343
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: didn't notice the I didn't notice the shoulder pads.

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01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 4: When you see the up close, it is very apparent.

1345
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: I mean, looks awesome, but it's like, it's not fair

1346
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 2: in my mind. Come on, man, you got slope shoulders

1347
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: like the rest of us. You gotta deal with the consequences.

1348
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: I don't care how fit you are.

1349
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 3: All right, well, let's let's get to tonight's games. Nice

1350
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 3: picture Rome last night. Let's see if you can do

1351
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 3: it again. The Lakers in Sacramento are six and a

1352
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: half point dogs. That's a lot of respect for the

1353
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: Sacramento Kings right there to win by seven or more

1354
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 3: skeets and trade Jerome taking those Kings that. I'm happy

1355
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 3: to take the points with the Lakers, who yes they're

1356
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: playing on Christmas Day, Yes they're Cyber five hundred, but

1357
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 3: they do play pretty hard a lot of the time,

1358
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: so it's not as a bad taste in my mouth

1359
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 3: thinking about them playing on Christmas Day. So let's see

1360
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 3: how they roll into Christmas Day with a game tonight

1361
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 3: against the Beam boys.

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01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're missing a lot of guys. I mean Lebron

1363
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 2: even playing in tonight's game.

1364
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, TVD, Yeah he's TVD.

1365
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: Okay, he'll play.

1366
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm I'm just purely betting on the beam.

1367
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: That's solid, is betting on the beam. Yeah, they need

1368
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: to bounce back after their abysmal performance side before. Okay,

1369
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: two of us with the Kings task taking the Lakers.

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01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 2: He gets all those points to play with. Let's get

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01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: to tweeted the Night.

1372
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: Tweet out the Night. Wow, twitt.

1373
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: Well, I loved these. I loved these pair of tweets

1374
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: for tweet of the night and they go hand in hand.

1375
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1376
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: One came in over the weekend. I saw it from

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: at Heat Nation Calm. Remember we had the Heat and

1378
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: Spurs down in Mexico City for a game. Well, Jimmy

1379
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 2: Butler reveals he ate crickets in Mexico. Quote. I had crickets.

1380
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. I'm not gonna say

1381
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like line up and eat a thousand crickets.

1382
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: But I definitely had that flash forward to yesterday afternoon

1383
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: for the second tweet. I mean, you can't write this stuff.

1384
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: Task at by Tim Reynolds. Jimmy Butler is questionable for

1385
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: tonight with gastro intestinal problems. Oh my god. The crickets

1386
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: got them tasks. They went down okay, but they did

1387
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,520
Speaker 2: not sit well in Jimmy's stomach.

1388
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 3: Or at least end the crickets. It ain't the crickets.

1389
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 2: Oh you don't think so. Something on the airplane coming back.

1390
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 3: It's just a Jimmy chilling game. It happens to jim

1391
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: It's too funny. That's funny. But have you ever had crickets?

1392
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 2: I think I have once.

1393
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never saw the show. No, but cricket problems.

1394
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I just like, I like. I like his

1395
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: confidence in thinking the crickets were like, no big deal.

1396
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: And then like two days later he's like, listen it

1397
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 2: as olt because he's got issues with his stomach and

1398
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: his ass.

1399
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 3: I bet, I bet Jimmy is such a showman, such

1400
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 3: a comedian. He got the extensions for media day and

1401
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 3: then took him out because he knew he'd had the

1402
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 3: photograph ready for the rest of the season. I bet

1403
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 3: he just said, oh, my knees hurt, you know what,

1404
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 3: put down gas intestinal problems, And then people people will

1405
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: say that it was the.

1406
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 2: Is like a bit you're saying, yeah, well, how about

1407
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: this from the chicks here in the stream team. I

1408
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: don't I can't fact check this, but I'll take your word.

1409
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 2: Drew Holly missed a game after drinking cricket tea on

1410
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: Serge of Baka's show. So the crickets are crickets are

1411
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: the kryptonite.

1412
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: I watched that episode of How Hungry Are You? Yeah,

1413
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 3: I drink I would drink cricket tea.

1414
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: Should be how thirsty are you if he's drinking crickets?

1415
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Anyways, crickets are fine. It's very sustainable. I've

1416
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 3: had him too.

1417
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 5: Well, cricket tea is consistent across like all the episodes

1418
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 5: of How Hungry Are You? Stats, Like it's a truth

1419
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 5: or dare segment where you either answer the question or

1420
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 5: you drink the cricket tea. So every player has done it.

1421
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 5: So it's it's not like a high probability that cricket

1422
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 5: tea is going to take you out if we're basing

1423
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 5: it on that.

1424
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: Well, Also they film these like in the summer, do

1425
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: they not or like at least.

1426
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 4: Well I think I think a lot of them are banked.

1427
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry chicks, sorry to sorry to poke holes in

1428
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: your cricket theory there. But something's not adding up right, Yeah,

1429
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: there's it's a cricket conspiracy going on here.

1430
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: Okay, that was That was a good episode too, because

1431
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 3: Drew Holiday facetimed MPO. He was kind of surprised when

1432
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 3: Yanis eventually picked up, and then Yannie yelled at Serge

1433
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 3: Ibaka saying you're a rebounder. You're a screen center, that's

1434
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 3: all you are. That was pretty good. That was very good.

1435
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: I can do Greek impersonations.

1436
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 5: Do that.

1437
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. Though, no impersonations of any other

1438
01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 3: country unfortunately.

1439
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: Maybe I guess it's a long Yeah, come onie, let's

1440
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: call it there. That was a fun show. Thanks to

1441
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: everybody here joining us live on YouTube in the stream team.

1442
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: Hit the like button if you haven't already, comment to

1443
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: Wag subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. If you're a podcast listener, leave

1444
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 2: your boys a five star rating and review, especially at

1445
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: the end of the calendar year. That would be nice

1446
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: to have some new reviews as we head into twenty three.

1447
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 2: Help us in terms of the basketball podcast rankings. Help

1448
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: us stay near the top. For sixteen years running. I mean,

1449
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 2: the longevity at this point, it's really unreal. You know,

1450
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: these new podcasts they show up tasks and their numbers

1451
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: go boom, and then they're suddenly right there at the top.

1452
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: But you know what happens, you start to slowly dip down.

1453
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: Can you maintain it? Like TVJ slash the starters, slash

1454
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: the free Agents slash No ducks Nay, I say, nay,

1455
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: they can't.

1456
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 3: I like how you said, help us stay near the top.

1457
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't know where we are. I mean,

1458
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: who knows. Sometimes we're top five somewhere, Sometimes we're top ten,

1459
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: sometimes we're top twenty, and it changes from country to country.

1460
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 2: You know, the Philippines they hold this down. Yeah, we

1461
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 2: might still be number one for all I know. There.

1462
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so help us out and we will be back tomorrow.

1463
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 3: And it sort of sounds, I guess like you're saying goodbye, skeets,

1464
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 3: but we're not going anywhere. We've got people in the

1465
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 3: stream team asking is this the last episode of the year.

1466
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 3: We back tomorrow, No tomorrow, Friday, Monday, Yeah, no doing

1467
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 3: any Monday on YouTube.

1468
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: Back tomorrow tomorrow. We're ripping some packs again, some top

1469
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: shot packs. We'll do that later in the show tomorrow,

1470
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: but we have a ton of games on tonight, so

1471
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: we'll be breaking them all down or as many as

1472
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 2: we can on tomorrow's podcast live at ten am Eastern

1473
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: here on YouTube. Jerome, thank you, Tessie. Always great to

1474
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: see everybody. Thanks again for joining us live. We'll see

1475
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: you tomorrow. Clipper Rose, you.

1476
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: Heard it here first.

1477
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up.

1478
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us. And remember,

1479
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: are there cricket cheese steaks? What my holy king throwing

1480
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 3: that in there? I don't know if Jerome knows that,

1481
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: but anyways that I'm not asking you drum, don't come on.

1482
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 3: I'm interested in the cricket food world.

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01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm interested Brace the day, people,