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Speaker 2: the shopping mall of Life, sports is the toy department.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, did we have a lot of toys to

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Speaker 2: play with this week? Starting with Sunday and Don Staley

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Speaker 2: and the South Carolina Gamecocks fabulous championship run. Nineteen million

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Speaker 2: They repeated. Now people are talking, repeat, We've got John Calipari,

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Speaker 2: We've got Kentucky basketball, We've got the Masters, Tiger Woods,

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Speaker 2: abstaining from sex, YadA YadA, ya. It just never ends.

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Speaker 2: It's the toy department. But I don't know if anybody

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Speaker 2: can argue with the fact that the one news event

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Speaker 2: every other one combined is the passing of O. J. Simpson.

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Speaker 2: There is no objectivity when people have their thoughts on

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Speaker 2: OJ Simpson. It's subjective and I must tell you. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four would have

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Speaker 2: been thirty years. Thirty years. Of course, that's the infamous

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Speaker 2: And see you may hear a slightly different tone in

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Speaker 2: my voice because that night was impactful for me. In seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, my life changed forever. So first night

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Speaker 2: working for WTKA ten P fifty out of ann Arbor, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: They are the Michigan football flagship. But I got a

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Speaker 2: credential that night for the first time the Detroit Tigers.

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Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays. That doesn't even begin to tell the

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Speaker 2: of the game as well. That's what the idea was.

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Speaker 2: And again it was the first year they were featured

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Speaker 2: in English slow motion police pursuit of an infamous white

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Speaker 2: Ford Bronco. That's right. It was the night that would

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Speaker 2: also change the life of Arenthal, James Simpsons as well.

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Speaker 2: All of us in the media were completely fixated on

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Speaker 2: those impactful words as they replayed the video quote OJ

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Speaker 2: watched to see what would happen next. So to be

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Speaker 2: sure to imply that my entrede in the world of

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Speaker 2: sports media as a credential member was auspicious, well, that

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Speaker 2: would be a huge understatement, not for nothing. Fast forward

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Speaker 2: The center of David gascon Ow the circle of life.

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Speaker 2: The OJ Simpson legacy is a complicated one. As a journalist,

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Speaker 2: I've often said that if one side is telling me

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Speaker 2: your mind when you heard OJ passed. I will tell

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Speaker 2: you what was going through my mind the second he passed.

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Speaker 2: What would have been his legacy had none of this

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Speaker 2: ever happened. June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, ninety five million

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Speaker 2: October third, nineteen ninety five, one hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 2: life in infamy, and it very much overshadowed his incredible

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Speaker 2: brilliance as a running back, not only at usc where

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Speaker 2: had Oj passed and none of this ever would have happened,

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Speaker 2: age seventy six. But we don't live in an alternative universe.

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Speaker 2: We live in our universe, and O. J. Simpson was

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Speaker 2: incredibly popular, not only as a football player, but as

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Speaker 2: Truly was larger than life. Now, my mentor, Dick Shapp,

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Speaker 2: it's so funny, I had a real brain crap. I

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Speaker 2: Still got his phone number in my brain, even though

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Speaker 2: Dick was my mentor. And after this whole ordeal happened,

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Speaker 2: I called Dick and I asked him. I said, I

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Speaker 2: world events, and certainly sporting events, and he said something

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Speaker 2: me say it start by saying this. I liked OJ,

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Speaker 2: had a great relationship with OJ. Everybody loved OJ. And

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Speaker 2: he did a favor for me once. This is Dick

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Speaker 2: Shapp talking where he had to get on a plane

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Speaker 2: Dick Shapp was scratching his head because OJ was on

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Speaker 2: he said, the fact that this whole ordeal happened over

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Speaker 2: So that was the legendary Dick Schapp who written thirty

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Speaker 2: as I sat back and watched how the media reported this.

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Speaker 2: It's decidedly I would say negative. What happened and the

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Speaker 2: way they cover it seals what would have been OJ's legacy.

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Speaker 2: The New York Post OJ Simpson, the once beloved NFL

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Speaker 2: found acquitted of charges he killed his former wife, who

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Speaker 2: later found libel and a separate civil trial died. The

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Speaker 2: Every single one of them, every single major media outlet

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Speaker 2: How many videos did you see of his highlight Heisman

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Speaker 2: unkind things to say about OJ Simpson. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: him yourself. Pro Football Hall of Fame's release on OJ

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Speaker 2: Simpson's death, they actually didn't mention his legal woes. They

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Speaker 2: going to get to a lot of things tonight. We've

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Speaker 2: You hear him all over the network. He's got a

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Speaker 2: great new Dodgers podcast. I want the folks to hear

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Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Say hello to Ryan Bershing or Ryan. Thanks for staying

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Speaker 6: Oh, Bernie, anything for you, man, this is this is

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Speaker 7: On our show.

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Speaker 6: It blows my mind. So this is is really cool.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's well deserved. And before we get into some

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Speaker 6: Well, the podcast is called the Sick Podcast the Dodgers Zone.

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Speaker 6: It's the new Dodger podcast on the Sick Podcast Network.

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Speaker 6: So you're here all the time on the update desk.

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Speaker 6: You're here hosting on the weekend. So the three of

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Speaker 6: We get into everything, and of course the Dodgers have

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Speaker 6: You know, of course it's a it's a daily grind

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Speaker 2: So I want to start with tonight, but I want

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Speaker 2: And You're not wrong that the protocol that the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: By the way, that's good. She so she ended up

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Speaker 2: No, but I do understand he's out on bail. That

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Speaker 6: at the bottom of that rotation. Gavin Stone's given some

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Speaker 6: quality inning, so you're able to add Bueller to that

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Speaker 6: rotation where they've already employed a bullpen game pretty early

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Speaker 6: on in this season, and part of that was because

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Speaker 6: to give these guys extra reds. Yamamoto is still adjusting

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Speaker 6: to the American game, where in Japan pitchers through it

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Speaker 6: once a week as opposed to once every five days,

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Speaker 6: so they wanted to extend his rest a little bit

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Speaker 6: to get him prepared for the next outing. So once

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Speaker 6: once Bueller comes back, Yeah, that's that rotation is just

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Speaker 6: incredibly strong and hopefully he does remain healthy through the

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Speaker 6: rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, great stuff. I just followed your on Twitter the

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Speaker 2: Sick Podcast the Dodgers on at Sick Pod Dodgers. I

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Speaker 2: encourage everybody to do it is people can see you

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Speaker 2: really do your homework. Good luck with the podcast. Ryan,

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Speaker 2: keep us posted, bud Oh, you got it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much. Bernie really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much. Ryan. It's Ryan Berschinger. You

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Speaker 2: hear them all around the net work as one of

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Speaker 2: our producers Weekends, Daytime, etc. Jack of All Trades and

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Speaker 2: he along with Monci and Bold, they got this podcast

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Speaker 2: and I know they do their homework coming up. We've

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Speaker 2: been fascinated by the whole Shoio Tani. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to call it a scandal, but the whole show, hey ip,

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Speaker 2: a criminal complaint, batting situation, millions of dollars being stolen, bookies,

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Speaker 2: all that. Part of the reason we've been so fascinated

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Speaker 2: is because there hasn't been a hell of a lot

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Speaker 2: of clarity, mostly speculation. Now there's more clarity, and there

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Speaker 2: are a few news items coming out of this whole

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Speaker 2: deal that really have caused me to scratch my head.

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Speaker 2: I will share those with you coming up, but first

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Speaker 2: let's go to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest.

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Speaker 11: All right, Bernie, and still much to be decided as

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Speaker 11: we enter into the final weekend of the NBA's regular season.

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Speaker 11: No game schedule for Saturday. All thirty teams will be

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Speaker 11: in action on Sunday for the final day of the year,

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Speaker 11: and there's a three way tie currently for the top

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Speaker 11: seed in the Western Conference. Denver did enter into Friday

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Speaker 11: in sole possession of the one seed, but they lost

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Speaker 11: in San Antonio one twenty one to one twenty after

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Speaker 11: blowing a seventeen point lead. Minnesota beat Atlanta, Oklahoma Oklahoma

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Speaker 11: City I should say blue out in Milwaukee, so the

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Speaker 11: two Wolves, Nuggets a thunder all have identical records atop

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Speaker 11: the West with one game remaining on the schedule. At

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Speaker 11: the bottom of the West, the Lakers held off a

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Speaker 11: short handed Grizzlies team. New Orleans defeated the Warriors and

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Speaker 11: Phoenix el lasted Sacramento, so the Lakers currently hold the

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Speaker 11: eighth seed by a one game margin over the Kings

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Speaker 11: and Warriors, who are ninth and tenth respectively.

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Speaker 5: In the East.

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Speaker 11: Cleveland clinched a guaranteed playoff berth with a victory over Indiana,

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Speaker 11: while the nick secured at least the fourth seed with

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Speaker 11: a victory. In baseball, the Dodgers rallied back from the Padres,

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Speaker 11: I should say, rally back from a seven to three

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Speaker 11: deficit against the Dodgers, picking up an eight to seven

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Speaker 11: victory inn eleven innings in La Oakland, a walkoff victory

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Speaker 11: and extra innings. You had wins for Saint Louis, Seattle

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Speaker 11: and the Rangers back to Bernie Fredo.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks Kevin, and I want to remind the

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Speaker 2: folks coming up midnight Pacific, the midnight hour, our subject

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Speaker 2: matter to night will be OJ Simpson. What were your

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Speaker 2: thoughts when you heard he passed away? And we'll have

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Speaker 2: a second bonus subject as well. I'll tease that coming

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Speaker 2: up in about ten minutes. But the Oj story is huge,

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Speaker 2: all right, another story that's been massive, and Ryan touched

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Speaker 2: down it. Frankly, it's overshadowed the first month of the

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Speaker 2: Dodger season. Over the past month or so, frankly, the

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Speaker 2: whole world of baseball, they've been kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: ruminating about this whole Shohi Otani and his fired interpreter,

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Speaker 2: Ipi Missahara, and what the hell really happened there? How

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Speaker 2: could this have happened? How could you not know? Blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. There are still some people who don't believe

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Speaker 2: that show he is telling the truth. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: on that road tonight. But it's the lack of clarity

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Speaker 2: that really fired up. I think the interest in this

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Speaker 2: entire story. We just didn't know, and because we didn't know,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to know more. Well, here are some things

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Speaker 2: we know now, And I got to tell you when

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Speaker 2: I heard these things, I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. One,

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Speaker 2: it turns out that Ippi his gambling losses totaled more

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Speaker 2: than forty million, and losses losses. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: heard today that Hippi Missahara has been recommended to attend

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Speaker 2: what gambling addiction classes? Yeah, yeah, a little late for that, there, fella.

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Speaker 2: You think. And this whole thing started because ESPN obtained

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Speaker 2: documentation of a couple five hundred thousand dollars wire transwers

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Speaker 2: about a month ago to an illegal bookie that was

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Speaker 2: under federal investigation, et cetera. Now it turns out the

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Speaker 2: true number, as it's been reported by the FEDS, is

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Speaker 2: closer to sixteen million. But that was only the start

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Speaker 2: of how bad all this got for Ipai. We are

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Speaker 2: finding out between December and twenty twenty one and January

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, Ipe made well, it's not like he

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Speaker 2: made twenty thousand vets. He made nineteen bets. Are you

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Speaker 2: kidding me? That's twenty five bets a day. You're at

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Speaker 2: fire Mark. I love it, these these bets. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sure at this point Mooki bets which is his last

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Speaker 2: name was Smith. But work with me. They range from

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Speaker 2: what ten dollars ten dollars all the way up two

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty thousand dollars. But the average amount

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Speaker 2: of these bets was just under thirteen thousand. So the

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Speaker 2: records and again this investigations is going on since October,

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Speaker 2: show that if a won actually a total of one

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty two million, the problem is he lost

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Speaker 2: a total of one hundred and eighty two million. There's

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Speaker 2: your forty million dollars loss. And then they found a

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Speaker 2: bunch of text messages which are just stupid. I'm terrible

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Speaker 2: at the sports betty thing. Hih any chance you can

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Speaker 2: bump me again? As you know, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: worry about me not paying. But it's crazy. That was

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Speaker 2: a text to his bookie. The second thing is and

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Speaker 2: this apparently just came out because we were all asking

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Speaker 2: how could that amount of money go missing without any

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Speaker 2: way really not noticing. It turns out that question we underestimated.

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Speaker 2: Apparently that you know, Bizer Habb maybe had more control

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Speaker 2: over Otani's finances that we realized, but not just that,

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Speaker 2: the desperation that he was willing to go to preserve it.

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Speaker 2: Apparently he impersonated Ippe impersonated Otani on the phone to

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Speaker 2: hide his alleged bank fraud, and the bank records reportedly

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Speaker 2: showed that the account was in Otani's name, but the

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Speaker 2: contact information connected to it was changed to miss Ahrr's

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Speaker 2: phone number and an anonymous email address connected with IPI,

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Speaker 2: so transfers remained from the account using devices and ip

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Speaker 2: addresses associated with IPI. This is crazy, man, I think

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Speaker 2: this dude is going to jail for a long time.

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Speaker 2: The third thing is this just came out, and this

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Speaker 2: is kind of random, but here you go. It's leaves

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Speaker 2: you scratching your head. Apparently Ippi used a lot of

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Speaker 2: the money that was stolen from Otani well to payoff

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Speaker 2: debts to the bookie, but he was also working on

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Speaker 2: a sidehoust, so I guess he liked to collect baseball cards.

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Speaker 2: The Feds apparently found more than three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars in transactions regarding baseball cards on eBay

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Speaker 2: involving the Otani bank account again between just this year

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Speaker 2: January and March twenty twenty four. Incredible, and you know

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Speaker 2: that leaves me speechless, all right. The other another story

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Speaker 2: that came out, This is more anecdotal. It's probably you

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Speaker 2: probably don't want to owe millions of dollars to anybody,

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Speaker 2: much less than an illegal bookie, right, And in Ippy's case,

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Speaker 2: apparently the bookie in question, mister Boyer went as far

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Speaker 2: as following Otani while he was walking his dog. By

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Speaker 2: the way, his dog is I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: pronounce it. It sounds like deco pin or da copin or

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Speaker 2: something like that, that's Otani's dog, and he threatened to

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Speaker 2: approach him to get miser Harra's contact information, says Honor.

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Speaker 2: About November seventeen, twenty twenty three, the book maker message saying, hey, Hippie,

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Speaker 2: it's two o'clock on Friday. I don't know why you're

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Speaker 2: not returning my calls. I'm here in Newport Beach. I

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Speaker 2: see Otani walking against dog. I'm just gonna go up

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Speaker 2: and ask him and talk to him how I can

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Speaker 2: get in touch with you. Since you're not responding, please

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Speaker 2: call me back immediately. Well. Then, on January sixth, apparently

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Speaker 2: the bookie messaged Ippy and said, you're putting me in

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Speaker 2: a position where this is going to get out of control.

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Speaker 2: If I don't hear from you by the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, it's going to be out of my hands.

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Speaker 2: Hippy responded with the same state the same day, stating,

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Speaker 2: apparently my bad man just got back from Japan two

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Speaker 2: days ago, and I'm leaving tomorrow again. I'll be back

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Speaker 2: in mid January. To be honest with you, I'm really

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Speaker 2: struggling right now, and eatch some time before I start

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Speaker 2: to make payments. Hmmm. Finally, apparently Otan, his agent only

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Speaker 2: talked to a TONI through it, Babe Misahara. So if

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Speaker 2: you're a baseball agent and you have a client who

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Speaker 2: will someday sign a contract over seven hundred million dollars,

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Speaker 2: Let's say the client doesn't speak English fluently. He needs

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Speaker 2: an interpreter so he can live his life in the

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Speaker 2: United States. And let's say the interpreter becomes sort of

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Speaker 2: the maybe the unofficial manager of he said player. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Let's say the interpreter tells you your client has a

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Speaker 2: private bank account that's not even the financial managers you

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Speaker 2: can hire access. Let's say the interpreter claims your client

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Speaker 2: agreed to loan and millions of dollars to pay off

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Speaker 2: a legal gambling debt. I don't know, man, if I'm

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Speaker 2: an agent, do I really want to talk to this

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Speaker 2: interpreter anymore? I'm a little confused about that one. Now,

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Speaker 2: Tani claimed you do nothing about the scandal until Mizzy

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Speaker 2: stood up in front of the Dodgers and explained his

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Speaker 2: situation back on March twentieth. That's when this story blew up,

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Speaker 2: and the complaint sort of bears that out. I guess

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Speaker 2: maybe a Tani really didn't know. Where it really gets wild, though,

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Speaker 2: is how many times a parent the explanations to confuse

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Speaker 2: financial managers of the O tiny bank account by miss

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Speaker 2: Ippy was on the up and up. That's the part

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Speaker 2: that blows me away. I just don't know. Finally, I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously you got to a point where Izzy saw the

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Speaker 2: writing on the wall. The whole thing came crashing down.

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Speaker 2: In March, right around the day Ippy was fired, he

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Speaker 2: messaged the boy or the illegal booky, who said he

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Speaker 2: didn't believe the claims that Missy Ippy stole from Otani.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hell of the calls Guy Ippy,

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Speaker 2: misserh I'll just call him Ippy, okay. On March twentieth,

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Speaker 2: apparently Hippy messaged the bookmaker and said, if you seen

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Speaker 2: the reports, and the bookmaker said, yes, but it's all

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Speaker 2: bys Obviously you didn't steal from him. I understand it's

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Speaker 2: a cover job. I totally get it. Well, then Nippy said, well,

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Speaker 2: technically I did steal from him. It's all over for me.

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Speaker 2: I think if somebody would have submitted the script to

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Speaker 2: a Hollywood movie maker, they would have had him drug tested.

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Speaker 2: They just wouldn't have believed it. It's just incredible how

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Speaker 2: this story has played out in the last twenty four days.

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Speaker 2: And will there be more? Yeah, I'm guessing there's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: This guy's facing a lot of charges, and I still

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Speaker 2: think there's some unanswered questions. But for the most part,

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Speaker 2: I think that baseball is breathing a sigh relief. There

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Speaker 2: is no evidence whatsoever, certainly at least at this point

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Speaker 2: that that show Hey bet on Baseball Onward and Upward.

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Speaker 2: He had another bomb home run tonight. Too bad that

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00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: show Hey can't pitch this year? The Dodgers could could

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Speaker 2: really use them. Coming up, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour and tonight's subject matter. We want to

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Speaker 2: hear from you. Ian will open the phone lines at

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Speaker 2: sixty nine. We're talk about two things. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about OJ he passed. It seemed to come out

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Speaker 2: of nowhere. He's seventy six years old. I want to

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts. What was the prevailing thought going on

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Speaker 2: in your mind when you heard he passed. And then

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Speaker 2: also Scotty Scheffler, one of the favorites to win the Masters.

651
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Speaker 2: He's currently tied for first place. Was very vehement a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. His wife is due to have

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Speaker 2: a baby any day. We think it's about a week

654
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Speaker 2: away now, so let's remove some of the drama. But

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Speaker 2: he came out and said that if she goes into

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Speaker 2: labor on day four, I'm out of here. Even if

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Speaker 2: he's leading, well he is leading. What is your response

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Speaker 2: when you hear that. I believe him. I think he's

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Speaker 2: telling the truth. The only thing is I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna happen, because I don't think she's going to

661
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Speaker 2: go into labor. But we didn't never know with these things.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about OJ, we'll talk about Scotti Scheffler.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fridder with Keviny Laugh from Las Vegas, Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: coming to you live from the tire Ac dot Com

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Speaker 2: studios here in Las Vegas. We'll take you up to

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Speaker 2: two am Pacific, five am Eastern. Just getting started, but

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Speaker 2: in ten minutes to midnight hour eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine six six three six nine eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 2: nine on Fox. Want to get your thoughts. Soji Simpson

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Speaker 2: passed the other day, seventy six years old. Apparently he

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Speaker 2: had he'd been dealing with cancer. And you cannot hear

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Speaker 2: this news without having some sort of reaction. And that's

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Speaker 2: what I want to hear from the people about when

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Speaker 2: you heard that he passed. You don't have to go

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Speaker 2: into it soliloically on what you think is legacy should be,

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Speaker 2: or we don't need to revisit the trial any those things.

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Speaker 2: I just want to know what your thoughts were. You

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Speaker 2: got to remember ninety five million people watched the Bronco Chase,

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Speaker 2: and on June seventeenth, it would be it would signify

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Speaker 2: thirty years June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, Friday night, my

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Speaker 2: first night as a credential media member. I'm covering the

693
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Speaker 2: Tigers versus the Toronto Blue Jays the old Tiger Stadium.

694
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Speaker 2: They had just installed monitors in the press box so

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Speaker 2: you could watch the game. We weren't watching the game.

696
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Speaker 2: We were watching the low speed Bronco chase without sound.

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Speaker 2: We did not know what was going on. You have

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Speaker 2: to remember at that night, it was fluid, it was sudden,

699
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: it was surreal, beyond surreal. And then Commander David Gaskin

700
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Speaker 2: comes on and others the famous words O. J. Simpson

701
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Speaker 2: is a fugitive from justice. But we didn't. I don't

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00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: relips we could, We did not know what he was saying.

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00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: And then approximately what I guess it was seventeen months later,

704
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Speaker 2: sixteen months later, the verdict came down. One hundred and

705
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Speaker 2: fifty million people who watched the verdict. It was polarizing

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Speaker 2: for the nation. And he's OJ has never lived that down. Never,

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Speaker 2: because if you merely look at the at the media

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Speaker 2: coverage and the reportage these past few days from major organizations,

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Speaker 2: from the New York Post, a sports illustrator from ESPN,

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Speaker 2: to the athletic to the NFL Network Stephen A. Smith,

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Speaker 2: every one of them. The predominant headline was he was

712
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Speaker 2: acquitted a murder. Murder is a powerful word. Before that,

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Speaker 2: OJ was an incredible football player. You would not believe

714
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 2: how well he would have done in today's game given

715
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Speaker 2: his versatility, at his speed, power, all the things go

716
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Speaker 2: along with it. He was larger than life. He was

717
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: a pitch man, he was an actor, He was gracious

718
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Speaker 2: with people. He loved being OJ. He was born to

719
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Speaker 2: be a celebrity and it all went out the window

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Speaker 2: in the last thirty years of his life. We're not

721
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Speaker 2: like the first forty six. I'll tell you that. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he ever lived it down and it completely overshadowed.

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Speaker 2: So what did you hear when you heard? What were

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Speaker 2: your thoughts when you heard the news? That's the primary

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Speaker 2: thing I want to flesh out of people, because there's

726
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Speaker 2: nothing objective about this event. It's purely subjective as to

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Speaker 2: how you feel about all sorts of things, and I

728
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: don't want people to pull punches tonight. Of course, people

729
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: have done great in this midnight hour segment. Finally, it's

730
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Speaker 2: a little fun if you want to opine about this

731
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Speaker 2: the Masters are going on. By the way, Tiger's abstaining

732
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Speaker 2: from sex. He made the cut twenty four in a row.

733
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Speaker 2: Scottie Schaeffler, who was one of the favorites to win

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Speaker 2: this thing, said famously a few weeks back, his wife's

735
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Speaker 2: due to have a baby, and if she goes into

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Speaker 2: labor on day four, he's out of here. What if

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Speaker 2: he's leading the tournament and she goes into the labor.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: I know you've got an opinion on it. Well, he

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Speaker 2: is leading the tournament, he's tied, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: she's going to go into labor. Frankly that they're saying

742
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Speaker 2: now that it's about a week away before she's going

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Speaker 2: to have the baby. But irrespective, we talk to Scottie Scheffler,

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Speaker 2: we talk O. J. Simpson. Want to get your thoughts

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Speaker 2: eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty three sixty nine

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Speaker 2: and we are going to get to all of you tonight.

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Speaker 2: So without further ado, let's get the ball rolling. I

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Speaker 2: know you've got thoughts on O. J. Simpson? What were

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Speaker 2: you thinking when you heard he pass Nick? And Portland

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Speaker 2: starts us off tonight? Nick, what were your thoughts when

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Speaker 2: you heard the news?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: How you doing?

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Speaker 14: Bernie hi on uh on on oj? I mean I

767
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Speaker 14: was I was a teenager and you know, in the

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Speaker 14: nineties and when he was going through the trial and everything,

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Speaker 14: and I couldn't watch, you know, I didn't watch him play.

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Speaker 14: I mean her stories and watch tape that you know, highlights.

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Speaker 15: He was.

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Speaker 14: Great player obviously.

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Speaker 16: But I mean, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 14: My thoughts on that are just I guess would be.

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Speaker 17: There.

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Speaker 14: You know, it seems like like you said, the headlines

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Speaker 14: are you know that he was acquitted and that's it.

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Speaker 14: I mean, he was a bad guy from what I

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Speaker 14: can gather.

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Speaker 18: I mean, I know.

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Speaker 2: It's a complicated situation. I hear your your brain swirling, Nick,

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Speaker 2: and I understand it. Sometimes it's probably difficult to boil

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Speaker 2: it down into into one perhaps prevailing thought. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: you checking in, Nick every Friday night. We do this,

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Speaker 2: we'll hear from you again. What were your thoughts when

786
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Speaker 2: you heard that OJ passed gim in Massachusetts? Interesting? Interested

787
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Speaker 2: to hear what you've got to say about.

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Speaker 8: This, Oh, Bernie, that was right. I was like thirty

789
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Speaker 8: four years old when all this happened.

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Speaker 19: Everything.

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Speaker 8: The first thing of all was that Ben Shapiro. They

792
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 8: couldn't find OJ. He flew to Chicago, some couldn't find

793
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Speaker 8: him and everything, and all of a sudden, Shapiro shows

794
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 8: up in front of microphones. Mister Simpson was at home

795
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Speaker 8: practicing his golf swing at the time of his wife's demise,

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Speaker 8: and she died between eleven PM and one eight.

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Speaker 13: So what are you doing.

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Speaker 8: I'll swing in your golf club under the moonlight. Oh

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Speaker 8: it just died. To get worse after that, after that,

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Speaker 8: after that, and then when the DA drops the the

801
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Speaker 8: case on Maja Clock's desk, Hey, you're going to handle

802
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 8: this case? And she looked up at the guy, looked

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00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 8: at DA was like, who's o. J Simpson, are you

804
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 8: kidding me? You got to be kidding me. You knew

805
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 8: the trial was over then, you knew the trial was

806
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Speaker 8: over then, and then we had to deal with the

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Speaker 8: dominic Dunn from Rita's Digest covered that from from day

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Speaker 8: one in the front row the whole time, best line

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Speaker 8: of the whole trial, they come outside, everybody's cheering and

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Speaker 8: yelling and going crazy and stuff. Then he got off

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Speaker 8: and they asked him, what do you think. Oh, he

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Speaker 8: was found not guilty. That doesn't mean he's innocent, and

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Speaker 8: it started.

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Speaker 7: A whole new thing.

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Speaker 8: It was just it was just so bizarre.

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Speaker 6: The whole thing was just so bizarre for.

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Speaker 2: A pretty good timeline there, Jim good memory. Appreciate you

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Speaker 2: checking in. Uh And obviously even after that, the civil

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Speaker 2: try which I haven't talked about, took place a couple

820
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Speaker 2: years later where old Ja was found Libel and Uh.

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Speaker 2: I think there were damages of a hundred million. But

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Speaker 2: that's the story for a different day, but it's part

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Speaker 2: of the story. Jerome and Charleston, You're up next, my friend,

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Speaker 2: what we got?

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Speaker 15: I remember O. J.

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Speaker 20: Simpson very well. Okay, when I was growing up, it

827
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Speaker 20: was something about that UFC fight song that always got

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Speaker 20: to me. It was like, my favorite fight song is

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Speaker 20: a kid going up, fight off fee, fight off of victory.

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Speaker 20: It was just something about that song. It just that

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Speaker 20: when they were saying the national anthem in Canada, Old Canada.

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Speaker 20: It was just something about those two songs when I

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Speaker 20: was going up, they kind of like, you know, got

834
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Speaker 20: to me a little bit. But hey, he was some

835
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Speaker 20: phenomenal running back the year that year he broke that record.

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Speaker 20: It was a guest to get. I was right there

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Speaker 20: watching it when I wor black and white TV. But man,

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00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 20: when I saw that Chase Buckle, I know he did it, man,

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Speaker 20: And I've never changed my mind now once since all

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Speaker 20: has happened. You know, I was very sad for the

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Speaker 20: Global Family and so I'm the coolest family. But you

842
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 20: know what, you got to kill while you treat people.

843
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 21: You got to kill while you talk to people.

844
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Speaker 15: Because God's always watching you. Man, God's always watching me.

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Speaker 12: That's what I believe Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm always appreciate your calls, man, and the knowledge based tonight.

847
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: I'm very impressed by everybody in terms of how their

848
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: recollection is not just of the event itself, but part

849
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Speaker 2: of the tapestry in OJ's life. And if you look,

850
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Speaker 2: it's not hard to find film of OJ at USC.

851
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: The old student body, right, student body. I mean, forget it, man,

852
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: those USC football teams and OJ was there out of

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Speaker 2: this world. Chris in Lancaster, look forward to your thoughts.

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00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: What was going on in your mind when you heard

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Speaker 2: that OJ passed?

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Speaker 22: Okay, Bernie, hello, how are you doing? And my very

857
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 22: first thought was get his brained, do the study for

858
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 22: the for the the head injury thing?

859
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 7: Okay?

860
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 22: So I yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah yeah, absolutely so

861
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 22: that was my very first thought.

862
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 13: I was eight years old.

863
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 22: The first time I met O. J.

864
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 6: Simpson.

865
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 22: He signed my cleats and I went and played a

866
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 22: football game. And by the end of the football game,

867
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 22: I was a running back. By the way, at the

868
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 22: end of the football game, the singcture had worn off.

869
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: And I bet he was nice to you, though, wasn't

870
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: he what that? I bet he was nice to you

871
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: when he signed your cleats right, Oh my god.

872
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 22: Yeah, the first two callers ahead of me were unbelievable

873
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 22: in their recount of the trial and and who he was.

874
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 22: I only remember him as nake a gun and his

875
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 22: TV stuff. He definitely if if you take it forward

876
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 22: to that moment of time, how many since that moment

877
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 22: in time where Nicole and I don't know what his name.

878
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: Was, Ron Goldman?

879
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 22: Yeah, now go forward how many incidents with football players

880
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 22: with head injuries? So it kind of paints a picture

881
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 22: that before OJ are before that whole thing. And now

882
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 22: we're starting to do the head study stuff with Junior

883
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 22: Sel and all of them. Yeah, it makes sense that

884
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 22: if you were to grab his brain you might might

885
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 22: see something an interesting.

886
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: That's something I never would have thought of. All right, Chris, appreciate,

887
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: appreciate you checking in. And I don't know that they

888
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 2: have designs on doing that. But one thing, we've got

889
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: to tell the whole story. And we all know, if

890
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: you've listened to me, I'm a notorious name dropper. If

891
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: I really started naming dropping names of people I've met,

892
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: I'd killed the whole four hour show. But OJ's not

893
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: one of them. I never did meet OJ. But everybody.

894
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: I know they did. And remember he's here in Las Vegas.

895
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: He lived the last you know, fifteen years of his

896
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: life here in Las Vegas. He loved interacting with people

897
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: and kiddit, sing with people, and he was he had

898
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: a gift for that. I never heard anybody say that

899
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: OJ was rude to him or whatever. So anyway, Poppy

900
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 2: in San Diego, Hey, how about those Potteris. I don't

901
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about that, but nice wind night, Poppy.

902
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: So what do you got about OJ?

903
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 23: Yeah, Bernie, Yeah, it's a nice one from Pads. I

904
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 23: might hear my hometown Coachella Valley, first weekend of Coachella.

905
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 23: But you know, with OJ, Bernie, I remember actually watching

906
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 23: the chase. I was here in my hometown, Coachella Valley,

907
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 23: and I was watching on the TV and with the

908
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 23: Bronco and I was like, what's going on. It was

909
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 23: a highway pursuit and.

910
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 15: I was watching it.

911
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 23: I had no idea what was going on. And finally

912
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 23: the cops got him. I was like, okay, And I

913
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 23: didn't know who OJ was. And then I saw the

914
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 23: trial and you know, as the attorney said, if the gloves

915
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 23: did not fit, he did not do it. You know,

916
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 23: the glove didn't fit, so he didn't commit the crime.

917
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 23: But I noticed that he was very active on X

918
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 23: on Twitter. He was very active to his fans, and

919
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 23: that was really nice of Ojay. You know, it's bad

920
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 23: that we you know, the sports field, and he made history.

921
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 23: He lost a great athlete. But it's also bad what

922
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 23: he did, what he didn't do. I get only God

923
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 23: can judge him, but yeah, you know, let oj rest

924
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 23: and Bernie, what are you thinking?

925
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: All right? Thanks for checking in, Poppy, Uh tonight, I

926
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: want to hear from the people. I kind of gave

927
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: my commentary at the beginning. I will only say this that,

928
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: based on what I've observed, whatever oj did before June seventeenth,

929
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, in terms of his playing career, his

930
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: business career, his career as a media mogul, a pitchman

931
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: for hurts in movies, all those things is completely overshadowed

932
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 2: by these events. Based on the media coverage I'm seeing,

933
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 2: my prevailing thought was what would his legacy have been

934
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: if none of those things would have happened. It would

935
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: have been totally different. Scott in Houston, you are up next?

936
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: Where you got to? My friend.

937
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 13: Hey, Berry.

938
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 7: Uh.

939
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 9: Yeah.

940
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 18: What I remember mainly, Buddy, is I was living in Jacksonville,

941
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 18: Florida at the time, and I used to live in Houston,

942
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 18: so I moved to Jacksonville. Anyway, I remember the split

943
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 18: screen on the NBA finals.

944
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Of games, right, right, that's right, Nixon, Houston, Bob Crosses,

945
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: go ahead, Yeah.

946
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 18: The split screen. You know, you're watching the ball game.

947
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 18: I think it was the first quarter and maybe the second.

948
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 18: By the second quarter, the split up pops your up pops.

949
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 13: On the right hand side of your screen.

950
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 18: The game gets smaller, and here's a white Bronco picking

951
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 18: up the other half of your screen, and you're wondering,

952
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 18: oh my god, what is going on now? And I

953
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 18: just remember thinking, you know, earlier in the day, I

954
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 18: think he was in Chicago. I'll go earlier in the week.

955
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 18: It happened on that this Sunday night, Right, the Sunday

956
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 18: previous of the.

957
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: Event itself took place on Sunday night, and No Jay

958
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: was on a red eye to Chicago that night and

959
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: returned three days later.

960
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 18: Right, And if he wasn't guilty, why did you go

961
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 18: to Chicago lead bloody clothes in a in a in

962
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 18: a trash can there at the airport, and it was

963
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 18: the whole thing was just stunk from having from the

964
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 18: beginning as far as calling the.

965
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 15: Copy races and all that stuff.

966
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 18: And now Johnny.

967
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 24: Cocker a good defensive lawyer.

968
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 15: You know, he had the.

969
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 12: Dream Team and that's that's what they do.

970
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 13: They get them off.

971
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 18: But uh yeah, I just remember that Friday night, Bernie.

972
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 18: The main thing I remember is watching my rockets and

973
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 18: all of a sudden the split screen comes up and

974
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 18: you're watching the Bronco YEP and a game at the

975
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 18: same time. We just surreal came up.

976
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: In the press box too. Good good memories, Scott. I

977
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: remember watching the and like I said, it was in

978
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: the press box Friday, June seventeen, ninety ninety four, the

979
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: first time I ever had a credential. We're watching this

980
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: on the screen and there's no sound. I remember the

981
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: split screen coming up as well too, with with Bob Costas.

982
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: By the way, the dream Team. That's the first mention

983
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: of the Dream Team tonight. You know, Jay Monahan, Robert Kardashian,

984
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: Johnny Cochrane, they all passed. It's just this whole thing

985
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: is just beyond the norm in every every angle, you

986
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 2: could possibly imagine we're gonna get to all the callers. Gilberto,

987
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 2: you're up next, Linn, you'll follow eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six,

988
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: sixty three, sixty nine. We're just getting started. We're bringing

989
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: the crew on this as well. This is a monumental

990
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: event from a guy who had a very complex life,

991
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 2: and he had two lives. Really remembering O. J. Simpson

992
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 2: and your thoughts when you heard he passed hy Bernie Friday?

993
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: Were your line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, tirect

994
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: dot com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're listening

995
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

996
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show keeps rolling right along here Fox

997
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. We're talking Oj. What were your thoughts when

998
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: you heard the news the other day? Want to get

999
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 2: to all these callers? I'll Gilberto in San Diego now,

1000
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: I got to get to all the callers. Good Berta.

1001
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: But I did watch the fight Salvador Sanchez tremendous punching

1002
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: power with both hands, eight round TK and the poor knucklehead,

1003
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: the poor guy died in a car accident a few

1004
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: months later.

1005
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 25: Yes, yes, that was unfortunate.

1006
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 20: That goes.

1007
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 25: He lived in the fast lane, but he could have

1008
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 25: been one of the greatest fighters of his generation.

1009
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 2: Had no idea. Was that good? All right, we'll save

1010
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: that for another show. Let's get to oj your thoughts

1011
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: when you heard that, well, you.

1012
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 25: Know, finally he rested, He rest in peace. What he

1013
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 25: what he did, he was, he was horrible. And I

1014
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 25: remember the main thing that I remember, the you know,

1015
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 25: the Bronco, the prosecution, then the trial. I was living

1016
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 25: in LA during the Rodney King trial and the social

1017
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,959
Speaker 25: pressure that the l a p d got and and

1018
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 25: the you know, socially he was not gonna be found guilty.

1019
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 25: The police sambled the whole thing. But his life became

1020
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 25: hell after that, and I feel for his kids and

1021
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 25: his legacy. Like you said, I never saw him play.

1022
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 25: The first thing that I remember seeing he was on

1023
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 25: TV when he was on Monday Night football and then

1024
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 25: the movies. But that was unfortunate. And when I when

1025
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 25: I when I heard the news that he had died,

1026
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 25: I got well, there was one person that was a

1027
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 25: great player. He was a very good actor, a very

1028
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 25: good commentator that unfortunately did really bad thing and he

1029
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 25: never paid for it, right, at least he never paid.

1030
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 25: But you know emotionally, maybe he.

1031
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: Did good stuff, Gilberto and of course just likely saw

1032
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: the fight. On YouTube you can see a lot of

1033
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: ojay highlights. Lennon Rodondo beat You're up next. Thanks for

1034
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: hanging on hey, Bernie.

1035
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 12: It's always great to talk to you man.

1036
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.

1037
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 26: I appreciate just sincerity.

1038
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 12: Man.

1039
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 26: That's why I love listening to you, because you just

1040
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 26: come across often in my mind.

1041
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: Well that's thanks for the kind words. Lynn.

1042
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 13: Anytimes.

1043
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 27: Listen, Bernie, what I saw is a very charismatic person,

1044
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 27: outstanding athletically, very gifted, nice looking man to get and

1045
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 27: do anything he wants.

1046
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 26: But I also seen another side when the trial came

1047
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 26: up at a driver thirty four years and I was

1048
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 26: glued to the radio because that's all I can do

1049
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 26: is listen to it. And I learned a lot about

1050
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 26: law and I love Johnny Cochran even more after that

1051
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 26: trial of what he did for all J. Without money,

1052
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 26: oh J would have been toast. But let me tell

1053
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 26: you this, Bernie, this is a guy. His ego was

1054
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 26: so big he could never get out of his own

1055
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 26: way even when he did wrong.

1056
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 13: And then I didn't pass judgment.

1057
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 26: Boy, what I have myself deep down because I loved

1058
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 26: OJ so much. Who wanted that beautiful Nicole Cinson Brown did?

1059
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 26: Nobody in the world, probably, but Oj. Okay, now the way,

1060
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 26: I feel very.

1061
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: Very thank you for calling a very thoughtful perspective because

1062
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: we have a complex human being here and like most folks,

1063
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: some days you're blessed, some days you're cursed. OJ did

1064
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: have a temper, didn't come out very often. But I

1065
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: think you touched upon a point that because of his successes,

1066
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: he was used to getting what he wanted. When he

1067
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: couldn't get what he wanted, he reacted in a way

1068
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: that really shaped reshape the final thirty years of his life,

1069
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: which overshadowed the first forty. If you look at the

1070
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: media coverage, good stuff. Lynn Trevor in Oregon, I know

1071
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: you're on Twitter, my man, it's sposwed nice to hear

1072
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: from me. What do you got tonight for us? Hey?

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00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 28: Thanks, Bernie, and man, you are the man. I just

1074
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 28: got to tell you that I just love listening to you.

1075
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 28: But I'm going to say what nobody is ready to say.

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00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: Good riddance.

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00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 28: That's what the first thought I had. The man brutally,

1078
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 28: brutally killed his wife and the guy that was that

1079
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 28: was with her, and people can dance around it and

1080
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 28: people can say he had a great career. Yes, it's

1081
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 28: all true. The CTE angle actually is interesting. But I'm

1082
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 28: not going to mince words. And that's the deal. He

1083
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 28: he got off. He got Johnny Crockord to say, you know,

1084
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 28: the glove don't fit, you can't commit, you know, but

1085
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 28: the man murdered people. And I'm convinced of that. And

1086
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 28: I'm just going to tell you, like I think it.

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00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: Is, well and that's what hang on the line, Trevor,

1088
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: That's what this segment is for the most boring poppy

1089
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: check that the most boring conversations in life, certainly on

1090
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: the radio. When everybody just agrees, you are probably speaking

1091
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: for a lot of people who don't want to say that.

1092
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: If you ask me, do I think he did it? Yeah,

1093
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely he did. And I think what we try

1094
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: to do in these events is have more of a

1095
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: broad based, panoramic three hundred and sixty degree view because

1096
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: he had a seventy six year life and with the

1097
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: final thirty years were completely marred by a capital crime

1098
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: committed by the most famous person in history and quitted.

1099
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: He was acquitted and that perhaps made the situation worse.

1100
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: Then he ended up spending nine years in jail here

1101
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas on another situation. So very complex life.

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00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: All right, you got the final word, Trevor.

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00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 28: Okay, So I know the JUDGEDO was under a lot

1104
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 28: of pressure, and Marshall Blackburn wasn't particularly competent, and you

1105
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 28: had this tremendous team lawyers that that that took care

1106
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 28: of business. It doesn't mean that he wasn't guilty. And

1107
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 28: he committed an entirely violent and heinous crime. And I

1108
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 28: believed he lived longer than he should have.

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 13: I hope, I hope.

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00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 28: I don't want to condemn anybody too, you know, I'll

1111
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 28: just say it to hell. But you know, maybe he

1112
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 28: made atonements. Maybe he did, you know, the right thing eventually,

1113
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 28: I mean, after looking for the real killers on the

1114
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 28: golf course and stuff. I don't know, but I you know,

1115
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 28: I don't I.

1116
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 16: Don't wish anybody to go to hell.

1117
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 28: But I I believe that maybe where he ends up.

1118
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 28: And I'm just going to tell it like it is.

1119
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 28: He good riddance to Oj Simpson.

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Speaker 2: All right, Trevor, thanks for checking in. Don't be a

1121
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: stranger man, because I want everybody's honest, unfiltered opinion, and

1122
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: that's what we do here. Dave and Phoenix, former Michig Gander,

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00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: welcome back in what's up man? Hey Bernie, how are

1124
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: you doing well? Thank you?

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Speaker 12: So.

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Speaker 17: When OJ died, my first thoughts also went to Ron

1127
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 17: and Nicole. I also remember August fifteenth, nineteen sixty nine,

1128
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 17: OJ's rookie year with the Bills. I was ten years old,

1129
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 17: almost eleven, and I saw OJ play an exhibition game

1130
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 17: at Tiger Stadium against the Lions, and I just looked

1131
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 17: it up. I had totally forgotten that the score of

1132
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 17: that game. The Lions won twenty four to twelve, and

1133
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 17: about three months later I attended the Michigan Ohio state game,

1134
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 17: which I've never forgotten because.

1135
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: Victory.

1136
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, so that's interesting.

1137
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 12: Now.

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01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 17: I will say this, I despise racism of all kinds.

1139
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 17: I hate racial jerrymandering and every other thing you can

1140
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 17: think of, and I often condemn white racism. But that

1141
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 17: doesn't mean that I should be out delegated to defend

1142
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 17: Ojay or the people who cheered his acquittal, Nor do

1143
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 17: I defend the people who have had such unwarranted hostility

1144
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 17: to Caitlin Clark and Nicola Jokic. So I'm against that

1145
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 17: kind of thing, no matter which direction it's coming from.

1146
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 17: And obviously that was an incredibly divisive time in America

1147
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 17: and obviously unnecessary because those were crimes that shouldn't have

1148
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 17: been committed.

1149
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: All Right, Dave, thanks for checking in. We're going to

1150
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: get to all the callers, Steven, Casey, Kyle, hang in there.

1151
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: No one gets shut out tonight. We're going to have

1152
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: the crew weighing on us as well. This is a

1153
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: monumental event and a monumental life that was part fame,

1154
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: part infamy. There was a racial component to this, and

1155
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: the earlier caller I wish I could remember, want to

1156
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: give him credit. I'm not sure if it was Lynn.

1157
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: In March ninety two, the Rodney King incident was caught

1158
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: on tape and then the officers were acquitted. That really

1159
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: set the stage for the for the oj trial. And

1160
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: I was actually living in Orange County at the time,

1161
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 2: so it was their front and center for what took place.

1162
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: And so that's a whole other aspect of this whole story.

1163
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: But main thing, when you heard he passed, this is

1164
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: an iconic individual who lived the last thirty years of

1165
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: his life in infamy because of what happened. What was

1166
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: your prevailing thought? Because it's hard for people to apparently

1167
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: hold two thoughts concurrently on this one, even though he

1168
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: had two lives. We'll continue on with this subject, but

1169
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: first let's go back to our guy, Kevin figures with

1170
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: the latest.

1171
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 11: All right, Bernie And In the NBA Friday Night, the

1172
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 11: Suns rallied late to beat the Kings Oneway to one

1173
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 11: seven to remain a game behind the Pelicans for the

1174
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 11: sixth seed in the West. New Orleans defeated the Warriors,

1175
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 11: while the Lakers held on in Memphis, so La currently

1176
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 11: the eighth seed, while the Kings in Golden State are

1177
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 11: ninth and tenth respectively, with one game remaining in the

1178
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 11: regular season. Oklahoma City and Minnesota both won on Friday,

1179
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 11: as well. Denver upset in San Antonio, so there's a

1180
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 11: three way tie for the top seed.

1181
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 5: In the Western Conference.

1182
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 11: In the East, who had wins for Miami, Cleveland and

1183
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 11: the Knicks, who secured at least the top four seed.

1184
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 11: In baseball, the Padres had four home runs in an

1185
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 11: eight to seven comeback win over the Dodgers in LA.

1186
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 11: The Cardinals blew a six run lead but held on

1187
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 11: to win.

1188
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 5: In Arizona.

1189
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 11: Max Fried picked up his first win of the season

1190
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 11: for the Braves. You had wins for the Rangers, Mets,

1191
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 11: and Mariners, and golf. Max Homa, Scotti, Scheffer, and Bryce

1192
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 11: and de Shambeau are tied for the lead at the Masters.

1193
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 5: Tiger Woods won over.

1194
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 11: He did make the cut, while Jordan Spief, Dustin Johnson,

1195
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 11: and Justin Thomas all missed the cut.

1196
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 5: Back to Bernie Freddo all.

1197
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: Right, Kevin, thanks so much, buddy. Back out to the

1198
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: full lines. Stephen in North Dakota. You're up next your thoughts.

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01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 13: Hello, this is an honor, Bernie.

1200
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 8: I thank you for.

1201
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 16: Taking my call.

1202
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for calling in.

1203
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 16: Steven and I got a couple quick comments as far

1204
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 16: as the tragedy of the mergers, it is what it is.

1205
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 16: I don't think we'll ever know the story, but I

1206
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 16: agree with the one caller that said, who would want

1207
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 16: who else would want to murder that woman.

1208
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 12: Or that man?

1209
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 16: Anyway? Then she rushed for two thousand yards in a

1210
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 16: fourteen game season, which I think is amazing. Yep, But

1211
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 16: I think he only played like in one or two playoff.

1212
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: Games, which is you know, that's all true with the

1213
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 3: travel team.

1214
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 16: And then one other quick comment. I heard one time

1215
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 16: that in La County or the surrounding area, during the

1216
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 16: slowest speed chase, that was the most pizzas ever ordered it.

1217
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 16: That's right at that particular time. That's what I remember.

1218
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: Yep, that great stuff. Yes, that's all true.

1219
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 16: Yes, yes, he played in one playoff game then, and

1220
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 16: I think they they lost it too, probably huh.

1221
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look he was on some bad teams in Buffalo.

1222
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: He had to play in the snow. Uh and and

1223
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: in the Look, you covered a lot of good ground there.

1224
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: I like, I like conjuring up all these memories. All right, Steven,

1225
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: thanks for checking in the night. Don't be straight man.

1226
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: We do this every Friday night at midnight. Casey and Montana.

1227
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: You're up next? Do we have Casey?

1228
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 13: I'm Kacy. What's up?

1229
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: All right? Casey? You're on the air? Man?

1230
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 29: Hey man, So I heard the last guy.

1231
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 13: I've heard you guys. It sounds like an OJ support

1232
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 13: group here.

1233
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm not no, no, no, not, I'm gonna let you talk.

1234
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna have plenty of air time. Not at all

1235
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: this is a this is an open form. What I

1236
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: want to do is cover with the story objectively. Continue on.

1237
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 13: All right, Well, I mean you know you said earlier

1238
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 13: there's there's O.

1239
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 29: Jay's two lives. Well, there could be anybody. There could

1240
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 29: be any two lives before.

1241
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 12: Murder and after murderer.

1242
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 13: There's two lives. Yet anybody could be.

1243
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 6: Pre murder or post murder.

1244
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 13: That's such a stupid thing to say. It doesn't make sense. Now,

1245
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 13: come back, what you got.

1246
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure is that a question? You made a statement?

1247
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 13: Is a question?

1248
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: What's your question? Specifically? Because I will, I will not

1249
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: duck it. What's your question?

1250
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 13: All right, Well you made a statement earlier. There's a prey.

1251
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: There is Okay. Before June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, OJ

1252
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 2: was beloved as an actor, as a pitchman, and as

1253
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: a former athlete. After that, we bel I was just

1254
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: about to get to that. That's why there's two lives.

1255
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: That's why he has the legacy he has now. And

1256
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: I was quite clear in my opening monologue.

1257
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 13: Now I got a question, two lives?

1258
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 29: Are you talking about the two lives he murdered?

1259
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about Oj the two lives he led

1260
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: second one was as a pariah because I believe he

1261
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: murdered two people.

1262
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 29: Yeah, so pre murder and post murder, everybody could have

1263
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 29: two lives.

1264
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: Well, not everybody murdered two people. That was a hall

1265
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: of fame running back. So we're talking about a hall

1266
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: of fame running back. But I appreciate you murdered, Casey.

1267
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: I want you to me a favor. I appreciate your passion.

1268
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: We do subject matter like this every Friday night at midnight. Okay,

1269
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: save that aim material. Call in. Why don't hear from

1270
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 2: you again? Kyle in Las Vegas very much, looking forward

1271
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: to what you got to say.

1272
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 7: What's going on?

1273
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 12: Bernie?

1274
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 30: First off, let me just say the two lives things

1275
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 30: can be anybody, just like you said, but also it

1276
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 30: could be Tiger.

1277
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 13: You know, we know Tiger pre.

1278
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: He didn't murder anybody though, Kyle, he didn't murder a

1279
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 2: serious issue man.

1280
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 30: That's true, that's true, that's true. But to go to

1281
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 30: the OJ thing. My most memorable moment for OJ after

1282
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 30: the trial was the Memorabilius scandal, where he hired hitman

1283
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 30: or thugs to rob somebody to get back some stuff

1284
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 30: that he potentially either sold or didn't sell so for me,

1285
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 30: cause all too young to remember the actual trial trial,

1286
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 30: so I've watched his highlights.

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01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 21: I know the man.

1288
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 30: He looked like a talented man from what I can

1289
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 30: see from you know, old film and stuff like that.

1290
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 30: But the most memorable thing that I remember from him

1291
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 30: in most recent years was going to being locked up

1292
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 30: here in Vegas for I want to say, like at

1293
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 30: least four or nine years years when and then when

1294
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 30: he got released. You know, all the love that people

1295
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 30: shared and showed to him afterwards showed that, you know,

1296
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 30: he did catch many people's lives. Whether you like the

1297
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 30: man or you didn't like the man, you know, it's

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 30: a part of life. He messed up, true enough. But

1299
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 30: at the end of the day, you know, we have,

1300
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 30: you know, a justice to uphold whether he was you know,

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01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 30: he was proven beyond the reasonable with doubt.

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Speaker 7: That he was innocent.

1303
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 30: But that's beyond the point. The man had, like you said,

1304
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 30: two different lives pre and posts. At the end of

1305
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 30: the day, OJ is OJ. He's always going to be

1306
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 30: remembered as the juice. Whether you liked him or you didn't.

1307
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 30: I know, the man for the memorabilia, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, appreciated Kyle uh and of course you live here and

1309
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 2: you're famliar with that story, and I just want to

1310
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: I want to have Casey and Montana credit for one thing.

1311
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 2: He said, what is this an OJ support group? No,

1312
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 2: And if it's coming off that way, I don't want

1313
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: it to come off that way. That is not what

1314
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: this is about. The idea behind tonight's Midnight Hour topic

1315
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: was to get the people who have observed this what

1316
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: their prevailing thought was when they heard he passed. Ninety

1317
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: five million people watched the Bronco chase, one hundred and

1318
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: fifty million people watched the trial. Nothing has drawn that

1319
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: kind of attention and that kind of polarizing. I merely

1320
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: indicated that there is an aspect of this, that there

1321
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: were two lives. Because OJ was so famous and so

1322
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: popular that no one could believe this could happen. But

1323
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: it did. And that's why the last thirty years, I

1324
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: don't want my words to be misconstrued, and I don't

1325
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:51,879
Speaker 2: want this, you know that overall opinion to be misinterpreted. Okay,

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01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 2: this is not an OJ support session. If you want

1327
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: to support them, fine, I'm not going to dictate to

1328
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: people what they say when they call into my show.

1329
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: At the same time, I think there has to be

1330
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: some objectivity, even though there really isn't. There's subjectivity because

1331
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: it's subject to how you feel based on what's going

1332
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: on in your life and how you perceived this whole ordeal. Uh,

1333
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: Tony and Miami, you're up next. What are your thoughts tonight?

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 7: I just wanted to I don't know. I know you've

1335
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 7: interviewed and talked to everybody. Basically that's of any merit value.

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 7: I was in the same room for about a two

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01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 7: hour show. I used to manage the Improv comedy club

1338
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 7: and Clicking at Grove about twenty years ago. Okay, he

1339
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 7: came in with two you know streets, you know, a

1340
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 7: hooker as you call whatever ever you want to describe them,

1341
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 7: one on each arm, and the It was a very

1342
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 7: there's a weird kind of.

1343
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 22: Energy.

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 13: You know.

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 7: The comedians don't want to say anything. This is twenty

1346
01:10:58,760 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 7: years ago.

1347
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 21: This is after that.

1348
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 7: I want to take two thousand and three or four,

1349
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 7: and the whole thing was bajok.

1350
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 21: He didn't really want to sit down.

1351
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 31: And he didn't want to get the table, but he

1352
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 31: did order some drinks and he had this kind of

1353
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 31: Bizarro mystique as he floated into Miami and then just

1354
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 31: like burrowed out and people knew.

1355
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 7: They saw, they knew it. This was before you could

1356
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 7: just start videotaping anyone in the middle of anywhere.

1357
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 2: But I know it's interesting, Tony, and I want to

1358
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 2: get to the calls. I get the last word quickly.

1359
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: But so you allowed him to stay there. I will

1360
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: tell you there have been many incidents that I've been

1361
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: privy to where OJ will come into a restaurant or

1362
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: he would enter a club like that. They would just

1363
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: ask him to leave. We don't want the negative attention,

1364
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: and he would just leap anyway quickly. You got the

1365
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 2: last word.

1366
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, real, real quick though. My thing is, this isn't

1367
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 7: a support thing.

1368
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 31: I will say I heard this internet thing take that

1369
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 31: I've never heard before.

1370
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 21: And I know in another dimension you were one of.

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01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 7: The greatest defensive attorneys of all time or pop stut

1372
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 7: the attorneys. You got a deterring mind. And I will

1373
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 7: say that I this notion in ten seconds was.

1374
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 13: What I heard.

1375
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 20: I believe he was.

1376
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 24: He had him and.

1377
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 7: His wife had a drug problem. They were dealing, they

1378
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 7: were doing and it was involved to cartel it's the

1379
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 7: only way that that thing made any sense. Cartel took

1380
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 7: care of the wife, and you know, Goodman, he pouted out.

1381
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 7: They thought they were going to take him out, and

1382
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 7: that's kind of the nut. Yeah, I want to hear

1383
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 7: your your response they I'll let.

1384
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: You go, all right, Thanks, Tony. I don't know that

1385
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: there's ever been any evidence to underscore that. I've heard

1386
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 2: that theory, but I don't think there's any evidence to

1387
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: back it up. But I don't know. I don't can't

1388
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: get that grander tonight, Pete in Oklahoma City, you're up

1389
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 2: next to my friend.

1390
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 15: Hey Verty, nice for telling my call.

1391
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: Sure.

1392
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 15: Nineteen sixty eight, I was at the Niversity of Day

1393
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 15: in South sunder cowgame south of Indiana, and this new

1394
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 15: running back from Junior College and San Francisco was starting

1395
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 15: for USC. He ran wild against an under day, really

1396
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 15: put him on the back sports Hittells tried to just

1397
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 15: fride during image of that game. He was the greatest

1398
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 15: running back I've ever seen in my life.

1399
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 20: A few years later, I.

1400
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 15: Was probably college age side in that game in the

1401
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 15: snow go over two thousand yards and up until that

1402
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 15: point in time, he was the greatest running back. I

1403
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 15: had ever seen now the sad part of the story.

1404
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 15: When I heard about his death, it was a revelation

1405
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 15: to character. This guy he was not He just thought

1406
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 15: he was above everything. He's OJ.

1407
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 20: I mean, if you sign up thirty for thirty.

1408
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 15: Series, I'm sure you have. You know they talk about well,

1409
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 15: OJ's not white. I'm just not black. OJ's OJ. He

1410
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 15: just thought he was above everything else, and he had

1411
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 15: that small in his character and he couldn't be grounded,

1412
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 15: and he took that, took those two lives, and that

1413
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 15: will ever be Is this story unfortunate?

1414
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 12: Right?

1415
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: Fair enough? All right, appreciate you checking in. Pete coming up.

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01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: We'll get to Fernando, We'll get to Chris. I don't

1417
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: want anybody to get shut out eight seven, seven, nine

1418
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: nine on Fox. I want to get to the crew

1419
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 2: as well. This is a topic that has no easy

1420
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: what I would consider to be a consensus. I'm Bernie Frattle.

1421
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: We're coming you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

1422
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: Radio Tyraq dot Com studios. Don't go away. You're listening

1423
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fratt Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

1424
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 2: I've made an executive decision because of the popularity of

1425
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: this topic. We will spill past one am Pacific, the

1426
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: midnight hour, because I don't want anybody shut out. We

1427
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 2: got a lot of callers when I get to all

1428
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: of it, and I still want to get to the

1429
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: crew as well. Fernando here in Las Vegas. You're up next.

1430
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, Hey, Bernie, Yeah, I was. I was surprised about

1431
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 10: O Jayson death. I had seen him in downtown some

1432
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 10: of them here in Vegas in January, uh huh. And

1433
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 10: I had talked to him for about maybe five minutes

1434
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 10: or so, you know, talk about the old days of

1435
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 10: the old USB teams and the Roseo teams of the

1436
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 10: past and John McKay. And I didn't take no pictures

1437
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 10: with him or anything like that, because you know. But

1438
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 10: other than that, I think people have to remember from

1439
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 10: the get go he lived in Brentwood. The trial was

1440
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 10: moved to downtown LA. It was supposed to be in

1441
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 10: Santa Monica.

1442
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 6: That's right, Courtetistician.

1443
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 10: So if anybody gets a chance to read up on

1444
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,839
Speaker 10: that poll Wikipedia page and you see all more details

1445
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 10: of everything, how everything was moved.

1446
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 2: All true. It's all true, all right, Fernando, I just

1447
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: got to get to these cars, buddy, Thanks for checking

1448
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: in again, Polar Bear in Cincinnati. What are your thoughts

1449
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: on OJ when you heard he passed?

1450
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 12: Hey, Bernie, Yeah, well I just wanted it's going.

1451
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 20: To give up? OJ.

1452
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 12: It was a gte thing with OG. He wasn't a

1453
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 12: bad guy. In nineteen seventy six, me and my buddies

1454
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 12: were going to a Bengals game in Buffalo Orby and

1455
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 12: it bot to tire out. Who was with my buddy

1456
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 12: Scott and Bill run and he CoA J happens to

1457
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 12: pull over on SA Road and he pulls over and

1458
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 12: asks if we need help, and we said yeah, And

1459
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 12: he pulled out a Hurts won a Card card and

1460
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 12: gave us a card with the Hurts number on it

1461
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 12: so we could get us a real card and get

1462
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 12: ourselves to the game.

1463
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: All I appreciate you to telling that story, Polar Barry

1464
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: and underscores the prio J and even the post. I

1465
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: know that everybody who's ever met him that he was

1466
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: really nice to him. Thanks for checking in on that,

1467
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: Daniel and Charleston. Your thoughts I OJ when you already passed,

1468
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1469
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,799
Speaker 32: Hey, Bernie, first taking my call a bit anth lolling

1470
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 32: before you had your own show. Thank you, But anyway,

1471
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 32: mine was mine first thought was, well, that's over. You know,

1472
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 32: it's almost indifferent. I was thirteen when he ran away,

1473
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 32: you know, the Bronco and all that. I remember watching

1474
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 32: it on TV and all that, and it just got

1475
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 32: so much publicity.

1476
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 7: I got tired of it.

1477
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 32: And then he popped back up again.

1478
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 24: Because of the.

1479
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 32: Scandal and with the memorabilia, and frankly, I it was

1480
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 32: almost indifference. I just I had become numb to hearing

1481
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 32: about it so long, and then hearing all the jokes

1482
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 32: and everything. It was just it was kind of the

1483
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 32: end of the chapter for me.

1484
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: Yep.

1485
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 32: I'm just curious if anybody else just kind of felt

1486
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 32: that same way.

1487
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: I will guarantee you a lot of people feel the

1488
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: way you just said. Maybe they just would rather not

1489
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: share it, they'd rather keep it to themselves. But I've

1490
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: heard thanks by the way for checking in, Daniel, it'll

1491
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: be a stranger. I've heard a lot of pretty salacious

1492
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 2: comments about the situation, and I think you can use

1493
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 2: your own imagination to determine where I'm I'm going with that.

1494
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 2: Bill in Boston, You're up next. What are your thoughts

1495
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: when you heard oj died.

1496
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 13: Can you hear me?

1497
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: Okay, I can hear you Bill? Go ahead? Man, Hello, Yeah, Bill,

1498
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 2: I can hear you here on the air. Can you

1499
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: hear me? Do we have Bill? Bill heres, Bud?

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Speaker 26: Can you hear Can you hear me?

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01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: We're winding down, my friend? Go ahead, tell us what

1502
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: you got.

1503
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm very sorry. Yeah.

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01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 33: I want to say that my thoughts on OJ went

1505
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 33: for some reason to my own father, and he died

1506
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 33: about six months ago. And you know, I don't know

1507
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 33: why I thought this way, but my thought I had was,

1508
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 33: you know, is he going to be going to heaven

1509
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 33: where my father is, who led his life in in

1510
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 33: an exemplary way. I tend to think not that he's

1511
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 33: going in the opposite direction. And those were my thoughts.

1512
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 33: I don't know if he was a man of faith,

1513
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 33: and I don't know if that's something that you can

1514
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 33: forgiveness can be granted and there's a play for him

1515
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 33: up there.

1516
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,799
Speaker 6: But I don't know. That was my thoughts.

1517
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 33: I thought of my I thought of my fox when

1518
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 33: I heard about OJ.

1519
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: Bill appreciate it. And we're not you know, this is

1520
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: not a contest for anybody. This is not a We're

1521
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 2: not great he gonna curve here. I want to know

1522
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: what people actually felt. Right, my father just passed on

1523
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 2: February eleventh. I can't say that my thoughts were what

1524
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,759
Speaker 2: bills were. But this is why we do this, Okay,

1525
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: to get the thoughts from the people. And like I

1526
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: said earlier, I want to give Casey I think it

1527
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 2: was Casey in Montana credit. He says, what the hell

1528
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 2: is this an OJ support group? No, it's not far

1529
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: from it. But what we're trying to do is offer

1530
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: people the freedom to speak their mind without being judged

1531
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: or without being graded. We're going to spill into the

1532
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 2: one am hour here in Pacific time, Fernando, Andrew, Chris,

1533
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 2: you're getting back in. We want to hear what you

1534
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 2: got to say. I want to hear what the cruis

1535
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 2: got to say. Eight seven seven nine Fox. This is

1536
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 2: a gentleman's life that people well, he's been in the

1537
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: public spotlight for over sixty years, sixty of his seventy

1538
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: six years. So you can't not not have an opinion

1539
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: about this and somehow even related to your own personal experience,

1540
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: as a lot of callers have done the night. So

1541
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 2: we will continue on this ol J saga. What did

1542
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: you think when you heard he pass? Keep it locked

1543
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1544
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1545
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frattle

1546
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 2: Show just keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattle.

1547
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,360
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1552
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Speaker 2: seventeenth would have been thirty years thirty years to the

1553
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: day the infamous low speed Bronco chase, my first night

1554
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: as a credential media member. An impact it had on

1555
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: and obviously a lot of folks OJ passed the other day.

1556
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,839
Speaker 2: We've had opinions all around the map. We will continue.

1557
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: And like I said, you know, with respect to that

1558
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: event that night, if you'd have told me we'd be

1559
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 2: talking about it almost thirty years later on the radio

1560
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 2: with the same kind of raw emotion, I would have said, Wow,

1561
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 2: what happened? And so we didn't know what happened that

1562
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: night and now obviously we have the retrospect of knowing

1563
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: what did happen Andrew in Bakersfield? What are your thoughts?

1564
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts when you found out that OJ

1565
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: Simpson had passed?

1566
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 34: How are you doing? Just real quick? You're talking about

1567
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 34: the two lives before and after, and I was just thinking,

1568
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 34: I've heard descriptions of those brutal murders, and if he

1569
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 34: did commit those murders, how much of that anger contributed

1570
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 34: to him being a good football player. I don't know.

1571
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 34: I never saw him play.

1572
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: But your thoughts, well, like any great athlete, you've got

1573
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: to switch. You have to have a lot of testosterone

1574
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: and a lot of energy to compete at that level.

1575
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: But real, real quickly, and again, he was not perfect.

1576
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 2: I mean there were other incidents of domestic violence where

1577
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 2: the cops were called to the house. But I'm just

1578
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: trying to we could spend twelve hours on this. I'm

1579
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 2: just trying to figure out. I was shocked when I

1580
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 2: heard he died. I didn't. I didn't, right, I mean,

1581
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 2: he just gone on social media February eleven, said the

1582
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 2: rumors about me aren't true. I feel good. Wasn't true?

1583
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: He had apparently he had cancer. So just real quickly, Andrew,

1584
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: what were your thoughts when you heard he died?

1585
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 34: Kind of indifference and then you know, kind of thought

1586
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 34: of the murders and maybe that's it. I don't know

1587
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 34: what to say fair enough?

1588
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: What be Andrew? I appreciate you called a lot, and

1589
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate your calls. Ron in New York, Thanks for

1590
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 2: being patient. You're out next.

1591
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:02,520
Speaker 15: Hey, thanks for having me on. I'm glad you readdressed

1592
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 15: your platform. What are your thoughts when you heard about

1593
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 15: OJ Simson, because really what spurred me on was that

1594
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 15: one guy who called and said, what is this an

1595
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 15: OJ sensors support group? You know, because that confuses things

1596
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 15: for people just tuning in, and but you know, get

1597
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 15: right to the point of my question here, Hey, I

1598
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 15: felt like he led one life, and everyone lives one life,

1599
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 15: not two lives. What we choose to do in certain

1600
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 15: situations that come upon us, and even what the environment

1601
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 15: we in when something come upon us happens. You know,

1602
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 15: I do feel that.

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01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 26: Uh.

1604
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: Well, the reason I said that, Ron, hang on the line,

1605
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 2: you don't go anywhere, Ron guy said that is because

1606
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: he lived his life, almost his entire life, in public.

1607
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: Not many people have that, and that's why I said

1608
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: his first public life was out of an athlete, a

1609
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: hall of fame athlete, an actor, a pitchman, and the

1610
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: rest of his public life was an infamy. And by

1611
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: the way, and I know not everybody can listen to

1612
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 2: the entire show, I set it up at the very

1613
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 2: top of the show, ron I was quite clear that

1614
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 2: what we wanted to talk about tonight. I didn't want

1615
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 2: people to analyze the trial or the events or what happened,

1616
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: but what their needs. Your reaction was continue on.

1617
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's just that, you know, I feel sad that

1618
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 15: it happened that way, that it's being leaned towards. Most

1619
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 15: of the public guys sees him as a bad person.

1620
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 15: I don't know if he did it or not, but

1621
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 15: I gotta do admit that I'm leaning more towards that

1622
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 15: he did. He maybe chose the wrong thing to do

1623
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 15: at that time, but you know, I'm not going to

1624
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 15: harp in on that because he wasn't quitted, and you know,

1625
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 15: he's just another person just like us, despite him being

1626
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 15: the superstar and all of that stuff, because you know, hey,

1627
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 15: I see it every day just living in the hood.

1628
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 15: Some good people may make the wrong decisions at the

1629
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 15: wrong time, they go to jail, they may not live whatever,

1630
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 15: you know, but it's it's sad that because he is

1631
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 15: a superstar that it's being leaned towards and uh, yeah,

1632
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 15: he had a double life.

1633
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 7: You know, No nobody has a double life.

1634
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 15: It's just you know, it.

1635
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: Was sad again the main thing they're running. I appreciate

1636
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: you checking in. The main thing there is. This is

1637
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 2: an individual who lived his life in the public eye

1638
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 2: going back to nineteen sixty seven and not not many

1639
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 2: folks have that kind of tenure. Appreciate your thoughts around.

1640
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: Appreciate you hanging on and checking in on the Bernie

1641
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: Frider show. Man Well and Guardina, what's up Man Shane's action?

1642
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 21: Okay, in the chain reaction, we'll burn burn. That's what

1643
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 21: I was trying to attempt to get off the other

1644
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 21: night when I called you a ben mauded, I knew

1645
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 21: that that's that from your song. That's a disc inern.

1646
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 24: So it was it was comical hearing that collar like

1647
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 24: two callars ago. I know he's your boy. You gave

1648
01:25:58,479 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 24: him props.

1649
01:25:59,000 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 20: That's cool.

1650
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 15: You know he's a.

1651
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 24: Supporter, so that's good. But if OJ did it, my

1652
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 24: man Ray, Charles Stevie, wonder any other Jose Policiano. They

1653
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 24: all know OJ did it. In today's world of forensics,

1654
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 24: even that super team, the dream team of you know,

1655
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 24: buying the jury that wouldn't win off. But you know

1656
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 24: as well as I do, Bernie. In nineteen ninety four,

1657
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 24: it was a different world, and allegedly OJ was acquitted because.

1658
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know well, he was acquitted and there

1659
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 2: was an overwhelming evidence and DNA evidence it pointed right

1660
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: to him, but the jury felt there was reasonable doubt

1661
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 2: that was introduced. And hey, listen, we can live in

1662
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 2: the world at ought to be or live in the

1663
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: world it is. I choose to live in the world

1664
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: it is. You know, it's a big poker game. You

1665
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: got to take the hand and you're dealt and played

1666
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: it instead of wishing for a different name. Manuel, you

1667
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: always got good stuff. You got the last word.

1668
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 24: This guy, so Oj, he was an American institution.

1669
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 15: He was a ball player.

1670
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 24: Twos and yard er right, I mean before Eric Dickerson

1671
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 24: and in twelve games right for time. I mean, the

1672
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 24: guy had the world in his hand, you know, a superstar,

1673
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 24: commercials media beloved and the saddest part of the stories

1674
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,799
Speaker 24: that he threw it all away to be a woman

1675
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 24: beater who in the end took the life of the

1676
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 24: woman that gave him children. And in this world, man,

1677
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 24: that's that's just unsatisfactory in every way of shape and form.

1678
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 16: So I mean, Oj, you know, rest in peace.

1679
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 24: He deserves the rest in peace.

1680
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 16: But he was not a good guys, right, And.

1681
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: I'll always always appreciate you check it in man. Covered

1682
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 2: a lot of good ground there, Kelly in Ashville. You

1683
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,799
Speaker 2: are up next your thoughts on this whole ordeal. Hi, Bernie,

1684
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: how are you great? Thank you?

1685
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 24: I think to me.

1686
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 35: And I don't know if anyone said this already or anything,

1687
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 35: because I'd just got in my car on my way

1688
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 35: to work.

1689
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 12: But.

1690
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 35: I think the sad it would just made me sad.

1691
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 35: I guess when OJ died because as someone who in

1692
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 35: high school, I remember watching The Chase, like we all

1693
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 35: sat down in our choir classroom and turned the TV

1694
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 35: on and watched the Chase, you know. And I think

1695
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 35: the saddest thing to me is that there's a whole

1696
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 35: generation of people that are younger that just will never

1697
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 35: remember Oj as a football player.

1698
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 15: But as a punchline.

1699
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: It's true. That's a good way of putting it. He's

1700
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 2: essentially become a punchline, no way around that. Appreciate you

1701
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 2: checking in, Kelly, Chris in Lancaster. Don't typically do this,

1702
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 2: but you want to do complete a thought.

1703
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 22: Go ahead, Yeah, Ernie, thank you for taking my call again.

1704
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 22: And Kelly Hello. But what I wanted to say is

1705
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 22: with the CTE, his brain is probably the most valuable

1706
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:21,520
Speaker 22: of football players, because I do believe before the concussion

1707
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 22: protocol and anything that has happened after O. J. Simpsons

1708
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 22: has been well documented. Now we can go back to

1709
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 22: OJ Simpson's brain and maybe get some cognitive information to

1710
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 22: what drove him maybe to do what he did.

1711
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: Well, I think we know that. I think we know

1712
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 2: what happened. The passions who were inflamed, the emotional passions

1713
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 2: were inflamed of a man who no longer could have

1714
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 2: the woman and he was used to getting his way.

1715
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: But I think your points your points to and Chris,

1716
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 2: it's not a situation where you can rule it out.

1717
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 2: It's not a zero. If I'm being honest, it feels

1718
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: like a bit of a stretch. But what do I know.

1719
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate you weighing in, Chris, and I know you

1720
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 2: call typically on the Friday night midnight now and I

1721
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 2: appreciate it. I can't not do the rest of the

1722
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 2: show without letting the crew. I got to hear their thoughts.

1723
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: Is you get a show like this about once a

1724
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 2: year where something takes over and justifiably sol you got

1725
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 2: to give people what they want. This is a polarizing subject.

1726
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 2: This is a man, and people have miss construed my

1727
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: analogy of OJ had led two lives. He was a

1728
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: public figure. Okay, I don't know about other people that

1729
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: led two lives. Maybe they didn't, but this man was

1730
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 2: a public figure who had the world by the tukus

1731
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 2: Kevin figures. Let's hear what you got to say. I

1732
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: want to hear what you got to say about this deal.

1733
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 11: I'll echo the sentiments of what a few other callers

1734
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 11: said that when I found out that he passed away,

1735
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 11: I was sort of indifferent to it.

1736
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 5: And maybe it's because of the generation I grew up in.

1737
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 11: If you are of a certain age, and if you're

1738
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 11: i'd say between your mid thirties to probably even early forties,

1739
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 11: you were a child when the OJ Simpson case was

1740
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 11: going on.

1741
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 5: You don't even remember O. J.

1742
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 11: Simpson as a football player or this great charming media figure.

1743
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 11: All you know is there was a controversial trial, obvious

1744
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 11: racial undertones, all of that.

1745
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 5: He became vilified after that.

1746
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 11: In the subsequent years, he had the Las Vegas situation

1747
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 11: where he had to steal his stuff back, went to

1748
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 11: jail for a little bit, and he started making all

1749
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 11: these Twitter videos where as someone mentioned one of the

1750
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 11: previous callers, he became just a joke and a bit

1751
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 11: of a punchline. I think there's a lot of people,

1752
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 11: depending on what generation you come from, and I think

1753
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:38,839
Speaker 11: I'm part of this generation.

1754
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 5: That's mostly what you associate him with.

1755
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 11: I understand and recognize, and I have seen highlights and hearing

1756
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 11: stories about how phenomenal of a football player he was

1757
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 11: for USC and for the Buffalo Bills. But for the

1758
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 11: most part, I remember him, as you know, for the

1759
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 11: most part, someone who basically got away with double murder

1760
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 11: and really joked about it, to be honest with you,

1761
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 11: fairly openly, and a bunch of jokes about it in

1762
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 11: the subsequent years, and became a bit of a punchline

1763
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 11: and it kind.

1764
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 5: Of a vilified figure over it.

1765
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 11: So I understand when people say, you know, living a

1766
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 11: double life where there's two lives to him, and I

1767
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 11: do agree with that to a certain degree, you know,

1768
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 11: because there was the beloved you know, media figure and

1769
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 11: football player from who could do wrong from years earlier,

1770
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 11: and then the second part of his life where he

1771
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:21,799
Speaker 11: was pretty much vilified.

1772
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 5: So I certainly understand the sentiment.

1773
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 11: But as far as I'm concerned, I mostly know him

1774
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 11: from the murder trial, being acquitted and becoming a punchline.

1775
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 5: So it's unfortunate when anybody passes away.

1776
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 11: But if you believe that he did what he was

1777
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 11: acquitted of doing, I'm with you, Bernie. If you ask me,

1778
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 11: I believe that he did it as well. I really certainly.

1779
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 11: Maybe it sounds kind of harsh, but I necessarily didn't

1780
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 11: shed any tears over it.

1781
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 2: Well, you covered a lot of good ground, Kevin, and

1782
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 2: I think that it was comprehensive what you just talked

1783
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 2: about there, because he did become a punchline, and you

1784
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 2: touched on something that's been in the background and that

1785
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about tonight. In the complete apparent lack

1786
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 2: of remorse for thirty year from oj I never felt

1787
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: any remorse whatsoever if if it was there, I you know,

1788
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: you sure didn't show it. In my view.

1789
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 11: He wrote a book saying, if I do that, yeah,

1790
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 11: you know, I'm more here, different, much more disrespectful can

1791
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 11: you get than that?

1792
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 2: I want to sell you something funny and just between

1793
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,879
Speaker 2: you and me, Kevin, don't tell anybody else at nineteen

1794
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 2: ninety Okay, I was there for I saw the whole

1795
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 2: thing right, everything, And by the way, I encourage anybody

1796
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 2: to do a YouTube Ojay he was incredible running back.

1797
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: He would have flourished in today's game. So this got

1798
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: so crazy in nineteen ninety five that apparently I think

1799
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 2: oj might have been part of this. They put out

1800
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: a nine hundred number and says, call this number if

1801
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 2: you have clues as to who murdered Nicole Brown Simpson. Right,

1802
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting around the office with a couple buddies

1803
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 2: of mine. I said, we got to call the number.

1804
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 2: And because they were saying, yah, there's one hundred thousand

1805
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 2: dollars reward if it leads to the arrest of the

1806
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 2: you know, the culprit. Right, I called the number and said, Uh,

1807
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 2: it was O. J. Simpson. Where do I collect my money.

1808
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 2: I couldn't resist Kevin. I couldn't, so they made a mockery.

1809
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: And you know, look, you have to hold people that

1810
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: know me and have listened to my show over the years.

1811
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 2: I try to hold multiple thoughts concurrently. You can't tell

1812
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,839
Speaker 2: this story without telling the whole story. And I heard something.

1813
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 2: Maybe this will give some people perspective. I heard somebody

1814
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 2: on the radio another show. I'm not going to mention

1815
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 2: their name, say for people who don't really understand the

1816
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 2: gravity of his popularity and how when you juxtapose this

1817
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 2: double murder birth to who he was before he committed it,

1818
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: which I believe he did. If it were to if

1819
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 2: you were to quit that with an incredibly popular athlete

1820
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 2: today who was also dominant in the sport, imagine if

1821
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: you heard Shaquille O'Neil did the same thing a year

1822
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 2: from now, that might give you some perspective. You got

1823
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 2: to be kidding me. Everybod, bod, hey lift shakill. Are

1824
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 2: you sure that no? This doesn't sound right right? That's

1825
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 2: how much oj was beloved, oh even maybe more so.

1826
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 2: More so he was even maybe more iconic, and the

1827
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: one in the Heisman Trophy. Everybody loves Scheck all right,

1828
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 2: really good comprehensive stuff, Kevin, and coming up I want

1829
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,880
Speaker 2: to give I want to give Mark, and I certainly

1830
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 2: want to give you in their day in court as well.

1831
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 2: See what I did there. By the way, thanks to

1832
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 2: all the callers. We don't have to agree. This was

1833
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 2: not an OJ support group. When people tune in and

1834
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,560
Speaker 2: too nut of the show, it's almost impossible not to

1835
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 2: lie listen somewhat selectively. But I preface this by saying

1836
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to hear what people thought when they found

1837
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 2: out he passed. And why is this an event for

1838
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 2: me that has such importance Because my very first night

1839
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 2: as a media member Friday, June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four,

1840
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 2: and in the press box of Tiger Stadium covering the

1841
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: Blue Jays Tigers. But we were our minds were anywhere

1842
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 2: everywhere else but Blue Jays Tigers, because we're watching this

1843
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 2: slow speed chase on TV with no sound and we're like,

1844
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 2: what in the hell is going on? You had to

1845
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 2: be there to believe it. And thirty years later now

1846
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 2: we know, and I appreciate everybody who took the time

1847
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 2: to check into I coming up well here from the

1848
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: rest of the crew. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're a company

1849
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 2: of life from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, tirect dot

1850
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 2: com studios. Keep it locked. Listen to the Bernie Frattle

1851
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 2: Show Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the Bernie

1852
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to your live from

1853
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 2: the Tarrat dot com studios here in Las Vegas. I

1854
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 2: want to give Ian and Mark their chance their day

1855
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: in court. See what I did there. Obviously, tonight's show

1856
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 2: has been dominated as well it should be, by the

1857
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 2: passing of OJ Simpson, a highly polarizing figure. All you

1858
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: know all about it by now. So what were your

1859
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 2: thoughts when you heard he passed? Ian RODDI you're up first.

1860
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1861
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 19: So for me, I'm at the age where I have

1862
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 19: only known OJ Simpson the murderer, you know, or you know,

1863
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 19: the guy who got away with murderer. There was no

1864
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 19: you know, running back and like you know, I wasn't

1865
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 19: around when the news drop in that that slow car

1866
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 19: chase was happening. So for me, obviously he's a huge

1867
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 19: prominent name that you know that that's that's regardless. But

1868
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:13,719
Speaker 19: for me, I woke up to the news on my phone.

1869
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 19: I got in a notification from the Athletic. I read it,

1870
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 19: I put my phone down and I went back to sleep.

1871
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,799
Speaker 19: That that's what I did. I had to be honest.

1872
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 19: I didn't care too much, and it's it's I mean,

1873
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 19: I I I wish I could go a little more

1874
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 19: into detail on that, but but the fact of the

1875
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 19: matter is, yeah, I think it wasn't something that that

1876
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 19: really touched me that much. And he's never really held

1877
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 19: that big of a part in my life other than

1878
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 19: oj Simpson the guy who got away with murder. But

1879
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 19: I will say that, you know, to Kevin's point earlier

1880
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 19: and yours too, Bernie, that he has kind of just

1881
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 19: become like a punchline at this point. One of the

1882
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 19: callers said that as well. I think it is funny

1883
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 19: to see like the reactions from people online. It's like

1884
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 19: I saw one reply on Twitter that had me laughing.

1885
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 19: It was like, oh, in peace, like you know, I

1886
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 19: know somewhere he's smiling up at us.

1887
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 5: I thought that was so funny.

1888
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 2: Well, you know what to see, that's part of it, man,

1889
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 2: that's part of it.

1890
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 5: When you that's a pro to meet.

1891
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 2: When you're accused of murdering two people and you basically

1892
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 2: left a blood trail right back to your house, and

1893
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 2: there wasn't any other credible suspects. And his behavior is Look,

1894
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,839
Speaker 2: if you just found out your wife had been murdered,

1895
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 2: are you gonna get in this Bronco chase and head

1896
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 2: towards Mexico with money on you and a gun and

1897
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: all that kind Are you gonna Are you really gonna

1898
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 2: do that?

1899
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1900
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 5: Well you never know. I mean, I know, I.

1901
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 2: Know I'm not doing that. I'm gonna use every contact

1902
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 2: I have to find the real killers. You don't have

1903
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 2: to comb every golf course, Sorry, could? I think it'd

1904
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 2: be an honesty and you don't have to really have

1905
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 2: a reference point for this. And I hear you, man,

1906
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 2: And that's part of this whole deal. Well.

1907
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 19: One more thing though, that to add though, is also

1908
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 19: to Kevin's point about how he's kind of made light

1909
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 19: of it in the fact I do. I have seen

1910
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 19: clips like there's this one video that's kind of been

1911
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 19: going around since he died, making the rounds again where

1912
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 19: he was on some I don't know if it was

1913
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 19: CBS or NBC, some interview and he ended it afterwards

1914
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 19: just some like his idea of a joke and he was.

1915
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 5: The knife yes, with the knife and he's like, ll

1916
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 5: kill kids. What are you doing? What are you doing?

1917
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 2: Well that that wasn't a good look.

1918
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 5: Was no, not at all, not at all.

1919
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 2: Most of his behavior after the accusation and after the

1920
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 2: night of June seventeenth a roused suspicion, right, That's all

1921
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 2: it did, was a suspicion, Mark Ramsey, I know you've

1922
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 2: got some good thoughts on this.

1923
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 13: Well.

1924
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Speaker 36: The first thing I thought about was a graduation party

1925
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Speaker 36: that I went to, and you know, we had the

1926
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Speaker 36: the rockets on and there was something, oh there was

1927
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Speaker 36: I'm not sure if there was a race on, but

1928
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Speaker 36: there was also a soccer.

1929
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Speaker 5: Game on at the same time.

1930
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Speaker 36: And then I just thought about, oh, Jay's kids for

1931
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Speaker 36: a second, when they were little and then now they're

1932
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Speaker 36: grown ups and now they're dad has died. And then

1933
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Speaker 36: I thought about the Goldman family what they might be

1934
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Speaker 36: going through, just the thought that OJ is dead and

1935
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Speaker 36: those couple of things. So that was just the first

1936
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 36: things that I thought about. And then I thought, well,

1937
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Speaker 36: and the whole scheme of things. He sort of got

1938
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Speaker 36: away with something, but you know that's something that I

1939
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Speaker 36: could do about it.

1940
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Speaker 2: He did in terms of not being incarcerated.

1941
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Speaker 36: But my first thoughts about it just about his kids,

1942
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Speaker 36: the Goldman's about a party that I went to, and

1943
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Speaker 36: just those other memories that obviously come up when you

1944
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 36: think about all the stuff that happened during the OJA times.

1945
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Speaker 36: Now I am old enough to know about him as

1946
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 36: a football player, being on the Buffalo team, and as

1947
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Speaker 36: the great highlight of him as a very very muddy

1948
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 36: game and he runs runs, and he falls and slides

1949
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 36: and gets back up and finishes the run. So this

1950
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 36: that's the whole memory of OJ as a football player,

1951
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 36: and then being a sideline a reporter, you know, for

1952
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 36: the games, and then all of his hurts, commercials and

1953
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 36: all of his movies. So those are the things that

1954
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 36: come to mind when you think about OJ when he died.

1955
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 36: When I heard about him being dead, the wow, there's

1956
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Speaker 36: the end of that, and just those basic memories came about.

1957
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, Mark, for the simple

1958
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Speaker 2: reason that the lives that were affected, Ron Goldman, the

1959
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 2: Goldman family, the father, his sister Kim, and then of

1960
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: course OJ's kids, Sidney and Justin. They were little when

1961
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 2: they happened. They're a cute kids now they no longer

1962
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Speaker 2: have their mother. I've never been able to really reconcile

1963
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: how they must have processed this or what kind of

1964
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 2: conversation OJ must have had with his kids. This did

1965
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 2: not happen in a vacuum. It deeply affected people on

1966
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Speaker 2: a personal basis. Again, thanks everybody for checking in. We

1967
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 2: had some interesting thoughts. There is no consent and nor

1968
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 2: will there ever be. Coming up, we do have Chris

1969
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 2: Profests World of Soccer, but first we go back to

1970
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 2: a guy Kevin Figures with the.

1971
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Speaker 5: Latest all Right and Bernie.

1972
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Speaker 11: Sunday will be the final day of the NBA's regular

1973
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 11: season and all thirty teams it will be in action

1974
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 11: in the late slate.

1975
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 5: On Friday Night.

1976
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 11: The Suns every gamp overcame a sixteen point deficit and

1977
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 11: defeated the Kings, while the Pelicans defeated the Warriors, So

1978
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 11: the Lakers barely defeated Memphis won twenty three to one,

1979
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 11: twenty LA holding on to sole possession of the eighth

1980
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 11: seed with a one game lead over the Warriors and Kings.

1981
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 11: New Orleans has a one game lead over Phoenix for

1982
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 11: the sixth seed. Denver lost in the t Wolves and

1983
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 11: Thunder both got victories, so those three teams are tied

1984
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 11: for the one seed in the West. The Knicks clinched

1985
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 11: at least the fourth seed in the Eastern Conference with

1986
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 11: a victory over Brooklyn. Cleveland clinched at least the top

1987
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 11: six playoff berth after beating Indiana and the NHL. Las

1988
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,719
Speaker 11: Vegas clinched the final playoff spot in the Western Conference.

1989
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 11: What they went over the Wild and Saint Louis Is

1990
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 11: lost to Carolina and Major League Baseball Fernando Tazzis Junior

1991
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 11: hit the game tying home run in the seventh inning

1992
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 11: and Jackson Merrill drove in the boy head run in

1993
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 11: the eleventh as the Padres came back to beat the

1994
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 11: Dodgers eight to seven and eleven innings. Texas over Houston

1995
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 11: twelve to eight. Wins for Cincinnati, Seattle, and Milwaukee back

1996
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 11: to Bernie Friddle.

1997
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, great stuff is always well, we're gonna

1998
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 2: switch gears. We've been talking mostly OJ, and OJ made

1999
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 2: his bones as a football player before he was an actor.

2000
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 2: There's another type of football, spilled futbol. We call it soccer.

2001
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: Around the world, it's known as football. And there's always

2002
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 2: plenty of news. Things are really starting to heat up. Now.

2003
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Speaker 2: That's why we bring you Chris Perffett's World of Soccer.

2004
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 9: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama.

2005
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Speaker 1: Bien.

2006
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Speaker 37: It's all here in this report from the world of soccer,

2007
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 37: big news on both sides of the Atlantic. This week

2008
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Speaker 37: in the World of Soccer, Bernie, we're going to be

2009
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,759
Speaker 37: taking you to England and also to the United States.

2010
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Speaker 38: To start out here, Let's start with the English story.

2011
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Speaker 38: Let's talk about Liverpool, who has been on the verge

2012
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 38: of trying to win a new Premier League title. Is

2013
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 38: the final year for their manager Jurgen Klop As we

2014
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 38: enter this weekend, Liverpool sits in a tight race with

2015
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 38: Arsenal and Manchester City to see who will hold on

2016
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 38: with about seven eight games to go here in the

2017
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 38: Premier League season for most clubs. But those title hopes

2018
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 38: were kind of put on hold a little bit after

2019
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:42,560
Speaker 38: the big Sunday match we had last week between Liverpool

2020
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 38: and Manchester United, where Liverpool grabbed a very early lead

2021
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 38: thanks to Luis Diaz, only to watch them fritter it away,

2022
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 38: giving up two goals to Manchester United until their superstar

2023
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 38: Mohammed Sala came back in the eighty fourth minute, scoring

2024
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 38: a penalty kick to equalize and thankfully Liverpoo walks out

2025
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 38: of there with a point, but they lost their chance

2026
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 38: really do stand alone on the table and instead still

2027
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 38: sit tied with Arsenal and man City one point back.

2028
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Speaker 38: That's all coming into this weekend. Things will change, obviously,

2029
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 38: It's also coming on the heels now as we look

2030
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 38: to this coming weekend of a thrashing Liverpool took in

2031
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 38: UEFA Europa League.

2032
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Speaker 5: Now, as a reminder, if you're not familiar.

2033
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 38: With YUEFA Europa League, European international competition for clubs goes

2034
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 38: in multiple tiers. The Champions League is the top one.

2035
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:35,879
Speaker 38: It's the one we all know. More on the Champions

2036
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 38: League in a second. But Liverpool took a three to

2037
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 38: zero thrashing on the first leg to Italian side Atalanta

2038
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 38: in the Europa League not one. I do not think

2039
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 38: they will be able to come back from that. Said,

2040
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 38: as rough as it looks between those two games, between

2041
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 38: the man U game where they could have had three

2042
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 38: points that is settled with one and getting thrashed for

2043
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:03,640
Speaker 38: a trio by Italian side Atalanta, they are looking to

2044
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 38: this weekend, a little sore, a little worse for where

2045
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 38: they're playing here on Sunday against Crystal Palace. Hosting Crystal Palace. However,

2046
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 38: I don't think this is a terrible thing if they

2047
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 38: get thrashed in the Europa League. Europa League is not

2048
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 38: something that I think Liverpool has their eyes on. They

2049
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,679
Speaker 38: should focus on the Premier League this time of year,

2050
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 38: especially with the top clubs. It's easy to get lost

2051
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 38: between the international side of things and the and the

2052
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 38: club side of things the domestic flight. So Liverpool should

2053
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 38: just kind of punt on the Europa League if they can,

2054
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:39,759
Speaker 38: and just whatever they get next time they play at Alanta,

2055
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 38: just take what you can get. The Champions League has

2056
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 38: been utterly fascinating and we've had some very interesting road

2057
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 38: wins here, especially Barcelona stealing the game two three at

2058
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 38: Paris Saint Germain and draws between Arsenal Bayern, Munich, Real

2059
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 38: Madrid and man Manchester City setting up for second legs

2060
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 38: that will be very, very shocking. The only club here

2061
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,759
Speaker 38: to really pull out a win in the Champions League

2062
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 38: was at Letti Coo Madrid two one over Barussia Dortmund.

2063
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 38: Hard for me, however, to count nortonund out especially at

2064
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 38: this point. Either way, what it is setting up for

2065
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 38: is a second leg week coming up here that will

2066
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 38: be incredibly thrilling in the Champions League and we cannot

2067
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:27,839
Speaker 38: wait for that. But if you want to talk about

2068
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 38: those kind of priorities, think about Arsenal who drew level

2069
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 38: with Bayern Munich there. Think about Manchester City, who drew

2070
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 38: level with Real Madrid in these first legs. They too

2071
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 38: are the other ones fighting for the top of that

2072
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 38: Premier League table. Where will they allocate resources? How much

2073
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 38: dress can their biggest stars get? Can they juggle all

2074
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 38: of these things? These are all important things. Manchester City

2075
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 38: has a lot of experience juggling these, especially last year

2076
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 38: with how many trophies and titles they won. Arsenal not

2077
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 38: quite so as much. And Arsenal here, someone who was

2078
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 38: so close to winning the Premier League last year, just

2079
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 38: to watch it fall out of grasp. And now from

2080
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 38: one's Champions League to another, let's move to the CONCA

2081
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 38: CAFF Champions League. It is played between the clubs of

2082
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 38: the North American region and tremors really coming out of

2083
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 38: Inter Miami and a sound thrashing they took in the

2084
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 38: CONCA CAFF Champions League to Mexican side Monterey. It ended

2085
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 38: their Champions League run. For inter Miami, they bow out

2086
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 38: in the quarterfinals, and it's something that I think deserves

2087
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 38: a little bit of attention because really in both legs,

2088
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 38: Monterey thrashed Inter Miami five to two on aggregate, and

2089
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 38: even with Leonel Messi, inter Miami did not look the

2090
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,719
Speaker 38: side that we've kind of expected them to be. Now,

2091
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 38: I don't take anything away from their MLS tour. I

2092
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 38: don't take anyway from their season as that unfolds, but

2093
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 38: I believe that the rivalry between the United States and

2094
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 38: LEAGA MX really there is a talent difference here that

2095
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 38: is still at play. And indeed, someone who agrees with

2096
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:17,759
Speaker 38: me is Inter Miami's coach, the legendary Tata Martino, who

2097
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 38: blasted MLS over the roster rules for his team's inability

2098
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 38: to compete at the same level as Liga MX. That

2099
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 38: was his quote. He is saying that American teams are

2100
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 38: simply tied at the hands on various rules and cannot

2101
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 38: really compete with the Mexican clubs, and this has underscored

2102
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 38: a situation for MLS and their Board of governors to

2103
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 38: figure out things now. On Tuesday, they did meet and

2104
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,800
Speaker 38: they've approved changes to some of these roster rules. There's

2105
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 38: a lot to get into. MLS rules are very labyrinthian.

2106
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 38: There's a lot of stuff about designated players under twenty two,

2107
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 38: initiative signings, general allocation money teams receive when players transfer

2108
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 38: out the league. One of the things they tried to

2109
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 38: get to talk about but couldn't get in was something

2110
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 38: called a Legends rule that would have allowed flexibility in

2111
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 38: retaining long term veterans, but that was not passed either way.

2112
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 38: The point is that the MLS has a lot of rules,

2113
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 38: a lot of things that govern what you can and

2114
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 38: cannot spend money on for players, and in a lot

2115
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 38: of ways it is handicapped this league to being able

2116
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 38: to compete, and I think, to be honest, it is

2117
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 38: handicapped this league in presenting a product on the field

2118
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 38: that can be enticing. In the wake of Leonel Messi

2119
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 38: coming to MLS, the MLS has to be encouraged, their

2120
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 38: owners have to be encouraged to spend to attract big

2121
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 38: stars from around the world to play and to have

2122
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 38: great world class squads. And with a lot of the

2123
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 38: rules in MLS. As Martine has pointed out, it's simply

2124
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 38: not getting done. We've talked a lot on this segment

2125
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 38: about how MLS has to strike while the iron is

2126
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 38: hot while they have mess, and part of that is

2127
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 38: getting rid of a lot of these rules, making it

2128
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 38: so that clubs can go after stars, go after talent,

2129
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 38: and make world class clubs. Until that time, it keep

2130
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 38: expecting the cream of the crop of MLS to keep

2131
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 38: getting thrashed in champions leagues in CONCA CAF by Mexican

2132
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 38: sides because the Mexican clubs are fantastics. Some of them

2133
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 38: are have some of great play and really MLS needs

2134
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 38: to step their game up. That's it for the World

2135
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Speaker 38: of Soccer this week, Bernie. We'll see you next time.

2136
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Speaker 2: What was that name, Tata Ortiz? I tellya you know,

2137
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 2: we've had Early Holland and over the years. In this

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Speaker 2: future we are introduced to new and fresh names. I

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Speaker 2: have to keep on the lookout for that one because

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Speaker 2: they have a way of resurfacing. Chris Purfett's World of

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Speaker 2: Soccer coming up. We wrap up the show, believe it

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Speaker 2: or not. There's one more day left in the NBA

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Speaker 2: regular season, and then Tuesday, it all starts up again.

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Speaker 2: You know that little event that Lebron wanted the creator

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Speaker 2: fired over, Well, Lebron better think is lucky stars that

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Speaker 2: they didn't fire the guy, because third year in a

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Speaker 2: row looks like the Lakers are headed back into the

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Speaker 2: playing game. And I bet, even though they've had it

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Speaker 2: for three years now, you're not one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 2: how the whole darn thing works. So I will give

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Speaker 2: you a quick refresher as we wrap things up tonight

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Speaker 2: on The Bernie Frattle Show. And look, I had the

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Speaker 2: Saturday Show be back on these airwaves Saturday night, eleven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific. I am Bernie Fraddle. We are comedy live

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Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirack dot Com

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Speaker 2: studio is keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we are

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Speaker 2: wrapping it up on The Bernie Frattle Show company live

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Speaker 2: from the Tarrat dot Com studios here in Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Before I go any further, I think

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Speaker 2: my broadcast team back in Los Angeles. They've been with

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Speaker 2: me since eleven pm Pacific time. I'm on Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, my technical producer turning all the dials, keeping

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Speaker 2: us glued together. Kevin figures on the updates, Molly Wap

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Speaker 2: and the updates, and of course our executive producer, Ian Roddy.

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Speaker 2: Thanks great job, Manny. And the phones we got like

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Speaker 2: twenty eight calls tonight. And I appreciate people's thoughts. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate our cruise thoughts, a great amalgam of thoughts. What

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Speaker 2: were your what was going through your mind when OJ

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Speaker 2: died the other day? And look, this is a let

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Speaker 2: me let me put it to you this way, because

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Speaker 2: there are some things that maybe didn't come up tonight.

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Speaker 2: I want to get this off my chest. If you

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Speaker 2: don't think this was a big story, I was there

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Speaker 2: when it was covered, Okay. June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 2: the Bronco Chase completely dominated all sports coverage and all

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Speaker 2: news coverage. And that was on a day. It's not

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Speaker 2: like nothing else was happening that day. Legendary golfer Arnold

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Speaker 2: Palmer played his last round ever at the US Open.

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Speaker 2: That day, the World Cup opened in Chicago, right here

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Speaker 2: on American soil. The New York Rangers hockey team celebrated

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Speaker 2: winning the Stanley Cup for the first time in forty years.

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Speaker 2: The New York Knicks were playing in Game five of

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals against the Houston Rockets when someone brought

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Speaker 2: up and by the way, Ken Griffy Junior that day

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Speaker 2: tied Babe Rude for the most home runs hit before

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Speaker 2: the All Star Game. Now there are all kinds of

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Speaker 2: things going on yet, and someone else brought up about

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Speaker 2: the pizzas. Yeah, Domino's Pizza reported record sales of pizza

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Speaker 2: delivery during the chase. People were glued to the TV.

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Speaker 2: They didn't want to go anywhere, they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: miss anything. It was a record night at the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was a good three to four hour

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Speaker 2: hour deal. And look and then even afterward, OJ made

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Speaker 2: the statement, you know, while he was in the Bronco,

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Speaker 2: he was not running from the law. However, when Al

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Speaker 2: Collings pulled into O. J. Simpson's driveway and the police

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Speaker 2: were waiting for him, the sun was setting. Simpson was

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Speaker 2: holed up in the back of the car. Police stayed back.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to avoid They didn't know what they were

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Speaker 2: dealing with because there were thoughts that OJ had a gun.

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Speaker 2: And when he came out of the Bronco, and he

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Speaker 2: said he wasn't running right, but he was holding family photos,

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Speaker 2: nine thousand dollars in cash, a fake go tee and

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Speaker 2: a fake mustache, with a bottle of makeup adhesive receipts

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Speaker 2: from a beauty spore sore. He had a passport and

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Speaker 2: a gun. Wh why would he need all those things?

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Speaker 2: All right, I don't want to go down this road anymore.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate all the people who took the time to

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Speaker 2: call in obviously a very polarizing subject. And like I said,

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Speaker 2: I think you've got to hold You've got to hold

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Speaker 2: two thoughts concurrently, because he lives his entire life in

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Speaker 2: the public eye. The first, you know, coming from the

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Speaker 2: time he was coming out of high school in San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: his time at USC, through his time in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and is a pitchman and as an actor that span

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Speaker 2: twenty seven years or so thereabouts. That was one half

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Speaker 2: of his life as a famous icon. The second half

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Speaker 2: the last half thirty years in many circles of pariah.

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Speaker 2: And that's just the way, that's just the way it is.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back on these airwaves Saturday night at eleven pm.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things we'll be talking. It will

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Speaker 2: be the eve of the final Sunday in the National

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Speaker 2: Basketball Association. And what's interesting is the way they've created

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Speaker 2: the scheduling. Now there are almost like pennant races. If

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Speaker 2: you're Kevin's update, with some of the upsets that happened

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Speaker 2: Friday night and Denver losing all of a sudden, you've

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Speaker 2: got a tie. You seem presumed that Denver would just

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Speaker 2: simply be the number one seed in the West. Not

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Speaker 2: so much. The Lakers get a win, they're pretty well

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Speaker 2: locked into the play in game, and they're gonna probably

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Speaker 2: have to win two games to make it to the

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Speaker 2: actual play offs, but they might not have to play Denver.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to see they all full SLA games

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. And there are still some things about the

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Speaker 2: NBA that just rankle me a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics had fan appreciation Night and none of

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Speaker 2: the five starters started. I mean that that minutes as

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Speaker 2: wrong as rain on your wedding day. It just doesn't

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Speaker 2: sit right with me. But be that as it may.

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Speaker 2: So real quickly with the NBA playoffs and the play

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Speaker 2: in games set to start Tuesday, don't get caught napping

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Speaker 2: on how this works. This is the third year they've

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Speaker 2: done this, So here's how the play tournament works. Once

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Speaker 2: the seven and eight seeds are determined in both conferences,

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Speaker 2: and the nine to ten seeds are determined, you'll have

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Speaker 2: four teams in each conference and seven through ten they'll

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Speaker 2: enter the play in tournament for two seeds. And what

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Speaker 2: will happen is if you're one of the top six seeds,

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Speaker 2: you automatically qualify for the playoffs. No, remember Lebron wanted

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Speaker 2: whoever came up with this idea fired, well, thank his

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Speaker 2: lucky stars, the guy wasn't fired because the Lakers have

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Speaker 2: been fixtures in the play in Tournament the past two

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Speaker 2: years and they will be this year, although they've done

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Speaker 2: pretty well. Last year they got to the conference finals,

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Speaker 2: so well. The way it will work is this, You'll

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Speaker 2: have the seventh and eighth place teams. They'll face each

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Speaker 2: other for the right to represent the playoffs as the

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Speaker 2: number seventh seed. So the seventh and eighth place teams

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Speaker 2: will play and the winner you're in. You'll have the

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Speaker 2: number seven seed. Meanwhile, the ninth and tenth seeded teams

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Speaker 2: go ninth and tenth place teams, they'll face each other

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Speaker 2: in another playing game. The loser of that game, goodbye,

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Speaker 2: you're out. The winner of that game lives to fight

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Speaker 2: another day. So the winner of the ninth and tenth

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Speaker 2: placed teams we'll face each other. They'll check that they'll

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Speaker 2: face the loser of the seven and eight seed, and

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Speaker 2: the winner of that game will be the proud recipient

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Speaker 2: of the number eight seed in the NBA. So there

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Speaker 2: you have it. If you're a seven and eight seed,

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Speaker 2: win the game you're in, lose it, you got a

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Speaker 2: second chance. Fight at the Apple. You play the winner

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Speaker 2: of the nine to ten seed game, and that winner

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Speaker 2: will get the number eight seed. If you followed all that,

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Speaker 2: maybe you're better than I am. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I like the way the NBA has done this now.

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Speaker 2: It's outed the level of intrigue and made these final

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Speaker 2: few games in the NBA a little bit more important.

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Speaker 2: It's going to do for the Bernie Frattle Show back

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Speaker 2: on these airwaves Saturday night at eleven pm. Meantime, keep

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Speaker 2: it locked up next to Fellas Fox Sports Radio