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Speaker 1: FT senior insider Ken Rosenthalis here, okay, Ken, let's start

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Speaker 1: with the WBC. We learned the news the other day

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Speaker 1: about Trek Scooble making just one start for TSA and

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Speaker 1: the WBC, and then you wrote a story last night

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Speaker 1: about Paul Skean's and his involvement.

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Speaker 2: What can you tell.

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Speaker 3: Us he expects to make two starts? And as I wrote,

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Speaker 3: he's in a different stage of his career than Schooble is.

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Speaker 2: And I know fans are.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, you should pitch. I get it, and we

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Speaker 3: all want to see the best guys play. But Schooble

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Speaker 3: is entering his free agent year. He is with a

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Speaker 3: team that has World Series aspirations. Sken's not in the

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Speaker 3: same place. Four years of club control left. He's still

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Speaker 3: on the minimum salary or roughly above it. And the

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Speaker 3: pirates are going to be improved, I believe, But I

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Speaker 3: don't know. They have World Series aspirations. So we're talking

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Speaker 3: about two different people, two different scenarios. I was surprised

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Speaker 3: Schooble was willing to play at all under these circumstances,

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Speaker 3: and certainly the fact that he's gonna make one start,

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Speaker 3: it's one one. They would have had Otherwise, schemes will

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Speaker 3: be on the same schedule or the similar schedule to

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Speaker 3: Logan Web, who also told reporters yesterday that he expects

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Speaker 3: to make two starts now. The two are predicated, of course,

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Speaker 3: on the US team advancing out of pool play, which

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Speaker 3: everyone expects to happen. But it's not too automatic. It's

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Speaker 3: too assuming they advance.

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Speaker 4: Hen By the way, everyone's all up in arms on this.

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Speaker 4: You know, Oh, I can't believe Schoobol would do this,

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Speaker 4: But in reality, starters only get two starts in this tournament. Anyways,

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong on that? Because I'm assuming schemes will

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Speaker 4: throw again and again. I don't know this against either

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Speaker 4: Mexico or Italy, which is their back end of their

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Speaker 4: pool play. So if they advanced, then they would only

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Speaker 4: have one start. Schemes will only have one more start

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Speaker 4: lined up. It's not like they play thirty games in

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Speaker 4: this thing. They play the four pool and then then

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Speaker 4: they go quarterfinals, semis finals like boom boom boom. So

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Speaker 4: it's not like they would get I don't understand why,

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Speaker 4: Like School's gonna make his one start, He's gonna pitch

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Speaker 4: his innings and then he's going back to his team,

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Speaker 4: but at least he agreed to do it. I don't

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Speaker 4: know why any of Ruin's up in arms. There's only

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Speaker 4: two starts anyways.

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Speaker 3: Aj, I think you're aware that everyone is always up

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Speaker 3: in arms about everything in this day and age, and

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Speaker 3: it's just the way it is now. Maybe Scooble will

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Speaker 3: reconsider at some point, but I don't believe he will,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know that he should. Honestly, his season

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Speaker 3: is very important to him, his regular season. Not that

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Speaker 3: it's not important to Skiens Logan Webb, of course it is,

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Speaker 3: but he has different stakes at play here, and I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna talk about the kindie eat. I'm talking about stakes,

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Speaker 3: high stakes. So I certainly again was surprised he even

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Speaker 3: agreed in the first place. Skeins kind of talked them

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Speaker 3: into it. It sounds like, and the fact that he's

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Speaker 3: making one start, people should be happy that he's gonna

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Speaker 3: pitch one time and we'll be able to see him

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Speaker 3: on that stage.

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Speaker 5: Did Skins give any inkling of what game he's gonna

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Speaker 5: pitch and then are they setting him up to basically

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Speaker 3: He did not, and I'm not sure they have that

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I'm pretty sure they do, but I didn't hear that,

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Speaker 3: So I would think Eric, what you're saying is essentially

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Speaker 3: what's going to happen, that they'll set him up to

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Speaker 3: be the starter for the final, if indeed they get

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Speaker 3: that far. And the real question now with the rotation

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Speaker 3: didn't even start the other day from Minnesota with lower

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Speaker 3: back inflammation. Turns out it was just that. The question

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Speaker 3: is will he be able to pitch at all?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I still have a couple more for you here.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with fan perspective on someone like Scooble.

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Speaker 1: If I'm a fan, and I'm a diehard WBC fan,

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Speaker 1: I want Team USA to win, right they lost last

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Speaker 1: time around to Japan. Schooble and Skiings are best in

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Speaker 1: the base. If I'm getting one Schoogle start Ken, I'd

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Speaker 1: rather save him for like the semi finals or maybe

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Speaker 1: even the finals. So I'm wondering, I mean, not that

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Speaker 2: If the phone call is hey, you get one Schooble start.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, you know he can even stay in

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Speaker 1: at the finals. If they make it anyway and do

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Speaker 1: the Semis or the finals, depending on how he's feeling,

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Speaker 1: he should be able to give you maybe another inning

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Speaker 1: or two at that point. The restrictions are different, So

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Speaker 1: curious if you think, in your opinion, they should have

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Speaker 1: tried to set that up. And the overall question here

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Speaker 1: has to do with getting these stars pitching wise, especially

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Speaker 1: for Team USA to pitch in this thing, because then

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Speaker 1: I start to think, should we have made this a

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Speaker 1: week later in March so you're even closer to the

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Speaker 1: start of opening Day and almost ready to go full board.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Scott, these are fair questions, and I would say

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Speaker 3: that with all of these pitchers and many of the

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Speaker 3: position players, there is pressure coming from all sides on

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Speaker 3: what they should do, their teams, their agents, and whoever

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Speaker 3: else might be in the NIX with them. So there's

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Speaker 3: a lot going on with these guys, always with the WBC,

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Speaker 3: and I remember last time around, I was doing the

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Speaker 3: Mark de Ros's pitching moves on the air. I don't

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Speaker 3: exactly remember the circumstances, but I went in to him

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Speaker 3: afterward and I said, Hey, what about this? And he said, dude,

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Speaker 3: you have no idea. I got this guy on this restriction,

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Speaker 3: that guy in that restriction. I can't use this guy

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Speaker 3: two days in a row. All these different things were

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Speaker 3: going on, which explained why he made the decision he made.

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Speaker 3: My guess would be, and it's only a guess, is

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Speaker 3: that you want Schooble or his people, and maybe the

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Speaker 3: Tigers want Schooble in a lower stress environment. You want

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Speaker 3: to pitch, fine, but we don't want to pitching in

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Speaker 3: the final when there will be maximum stress. That would

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Speaker 3: be my guest here. And again, the WBC is a great,

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Speaker 3: great event. I love it. The last time was one

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Speaker 3: of the great sporting events I have ever witnessed, no kidding.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, there are things that go

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Speaker 3: on in players' careers. There are different considerations that take place,

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Speaker 3: and fans can get as outraged as they want or not,

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Speaker 3: but there's just more to it than meets the eye.

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Speaker 3: In many cases, as I learned myself, covered it the

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Speaker 3: last time.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at some matchups coming up for tomorrow thanks

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Speaker 1: to Sea Geek. So we're gonna pull up some pitching probables.

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Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, Hey, here's what I want to focus on.

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Speaker 1: We just started talking about them. So the Mets play

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Speaker 1: the Astros on Thursday, we're gonna get to see Nolan

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Speaker 1: McLain and Tatsuya am I. So right away, I'm circling

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure it's going to be a hotter ticket

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Speaker 1: for this one. But aj we get to see Ami,

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Speaker 1: might pop up in the WBC, but I think he

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Speaker 1: has a lot to prove because there were some teams

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love this matchup. Are you kidding me? For

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Speaker 3: On the app.

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Speaker 4: Tell them tell him Ken, it's an exhibition. Tell him,

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Speaker 4: don't tell him, fine, tell them.

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Speaker 3: It's an exhibition exhibition.

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Speaker 4: I know I love it. I think it's one of

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Speaker 4: the I think I love it. No, I know I

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Speaker 4: love it, and I think it's great. But you know

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Speaker 4: who is happy that Schooble is pitching that one game? Ken?

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Speaker 3: Who?

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Speaker 4: Me and you because we get to cover his one

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Speaker 4: game that he gets to pitch against Great Britain on Fox.

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Speaker 4: So I'm super excited that he's pitching one of the

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Speaker 4: games that I get to do. And then you get

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Speaker 4: to call it too, So I'm super excited. So thank

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Speaker 4: you Terrek for picking a game that I get to call.

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Speaker 4: I'm selfish at this point.

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Speaker 3: There you go, It's all that right, yep?

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Speaker 4: And you and you Ken?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Ken?

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Speaker 1: Will be there and Dash Chisholm is on Team Great

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Speaker 1: and all right, I got one more for you, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep Aj on the screen for this

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Speaker 1: one because he was at this camp Ken, I think

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Speaker 1: replacements are going to start to be talked about.

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Speaker 2: Plus they have that pool.

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Speaker 1: I know, for example, Tatoyami is not initially on this

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Speaker 1: Team Japan roster, but he might pitch if they end

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Speaker 1: the Semis or for the finals, so that could be

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Speaker 1: an X factor for them. I'm wondering if we could

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Speaker 1: see a few big names pop up, like Logan Gilbert.

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Speaker 1: We were at Mariners camp the other day. Aj, maybe

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Speaker 1: you can help pileon to the question here. It sounded

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Speaker 1: like he was interested and just didn't get a phone call.

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Speaker 1: He'd look pretty damn good pitching in one of those

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Speaker 4: You think, yeah, he would. Does he get a chance?

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Speaker 4: Though I don't know who's on the reserve roster. Ken

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Speaker 4: might not better than me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems dicey, especially when you have names on

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Speaker 2: But Ken, thank you for the time. Appreciated. As always,

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Speaker 1: And we have another channel to add to the mix here,

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Speaker 1: So let's introduce a Marlin show to the FT Network. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we keep growing, family getting bigger, and the show already

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Speaker 1: fish on First. They have been excellent reporting on this

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Speaker 2: So we're excited about that one.

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Speaker 1: We've had aj on here before, Kratz, but now we

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Speaker 5: With fish On First, He's good, he's embedded down there.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is the good stuff. This is what

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Speaker 5: engages fans, which is what we need for one hundred

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Speaker 5: and sixty two games.

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Speaker 4: I've watched a lot of spring training. I've started watching

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Speaker 4: spring training games. I've been in spring training games, and

436
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Speaker 4: you know what, every team is doing this, they're trying.

437
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Speaker 4: I mean, I saw one last night. I forget what

438
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Speaker 4: game it was. It was zero point one inches that

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Speaker 4: they challenged and they were right right. It was point

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Speaker 4: one one, not one inch point one, which is like

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Speaker 4: this much. And all these teams are trying it out.

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Speaker 4: And then I also saw a game where the Mariners

443
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Speaker 4: they ran out of challenges and there were some close

444
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Speaker 4: pitches and they couldn't challenge. So I love it. And

445
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Speaker 4: the you know what, it's more fan engagement and umpires

446
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Speaker 4: are gonna miss calls. They miss calls, and you know what,

447
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Speaker 4: that's why we have this. But it's early in springlight,

448
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Speaker 4: Cratzy said. But the fans are engaged in every pitch

449
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Speaker 4: because they at any point they can see that little

450
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Speaker 4: thing pop up on the screen. They see the umpire

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Speaker 4: go like this, and a little thing pops up the

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Speaker 4: screen and ten seconds later here comes the ball. Ball

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Speaker 4: are striking. Then they cheer, they boo or they ooh

454
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Speaker 4: and ah, and it's a good thing for the game.

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Speaker 4: Let's keep fans engage, let's keep everybody engaged for the

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Speaker 4: full nine innings. I think it's awesome and I love it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a full robo ump guy, but i am

458
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Speaker 4: a full challenge guy like this because it's more strategy.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you get more action, more strategy, I'm for it.

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Speaker 1: And AJ playing to your point, Sometimes there is going

461
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Speaker 1: to be a challenge where it just missed or it

462
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Speaker 1: just made it, and someone might go, ah, no, that's

463
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Speaker 1: not what this should be about. Well, you can't differentiate

464
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Speaker 1: like it's either a ball or strike. Kratz has been

465
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Speaker 1: adamant about this too. It's a ball or strike. Now,

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Speaker 1: what you hopefully will often see is some egregious misses,

467
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Speaker 1: which is what we saw and we're showing some of

468
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Speaker 1: them here during what was a bad little stretch for

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Speaker 1: the Sump, and you fix them. That's the whole point,

470
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Speaker 1: so that you don't have people going nuts. They're still

471
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Speaker 1: going to go nuts on some calls because you're not

472
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Speaker 1: going to fix everything, but there are going to be

473
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Speaker 1: some egregious misses that are very obvious for major league players,

474
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Speaker 1: whether it's a catcher or a batter, and they'll be

475
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Speaker 1: able to fix that. An update here about an hour

476
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Speaker 1: ago aj from our friend Jesse Rodgers, who works for ESPN.

477
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Speaker 1: He said early abs spring update, there have been three

478
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Speaker 1: hundred to two challenges through five days of games, an

479
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Speaker 1: average of four point sixty five per game, of fifty

480
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Speaker 1: three percent overturn rate so far, and he says pitcher

481
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Speaker 1: catcher Combo has a fifty four percent overturn rate. Hitters

482
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Speaker 1: are at fifty one percent. So this is somewhat what

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Speaker 1: we expected, and we'll get a lot more of a

484
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Speaker 1: sample size going here. But we're getting close to five

485
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Speaker 1: challenges per game and you're about fifty percent, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that means jumpires are right almost fifty percent

487
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Speaker 4: of the time too, So it's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: I've seen a couple that are like two inches, but again,

490
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Speaker 4: two inches is like this, It's not like the old

491
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Speaker 4: days where they would get like six eight inches a

492
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Speaker 4: foot off the plate with laden games and high and

493
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Speaker 4: low and everything was a strike. I mean, the most

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Speaker 4: egregious one I think I've seen so far as one

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Speaker 4: point seven inches, which again is like this far off

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Speaker 4: the plate, right, and it's probably I think it was

497
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Speaker 4: like a big, nasty like breaking ball. That was like

498
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Speaker 4: the catcher didn't catch it very well, umpire balled or

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Speaker 4: I think he called it a strike and and the

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Speaker 4: guy challenged and again it was an inch and a

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Speaker 4: half off the plate. So this is gonna be cool.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be a good thing, and I'm all

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Speaker 4: for it. I'm looking forward to to calling a game

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Speaker 4: and saying, oh wait, stop, we got our first ABS

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Speaker 4: challenge of the year, and then waiting and watching the

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Speaker 4: crowd react and the players react.

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Speaker 2: I'm pumped.

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Speaker 1: Very cool, all right, So we'll keep you post on

509
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Speaker 1: how that's looking in spring training and then also part

510
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Speaker 1: of hot Corner. Here one quickie update. We didn't get

511
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Speaker 1: to this the other day when we first heard the news.

512
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Speaker 1: Sebastian Walcott is one of the best prospects in baseball,

513
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Speaker 1: and it initially sounded like he'd be done for the year.

514
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Speaker 1: Now he might not appear in a major league game

515
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Speaker 1: this season. But we did learn the other day or

516
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Speaker 1: I guess yesterday, that he had internal brace surgery, not

517
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Speaker 1: Tommy John And this is a position player, by the way,

518
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Speaker 1: and he should be able to hit in games late

519
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Speaker 1: in the season in early August or in August. Return

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Speaker 1: not early August. In August, return is on the table.

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Speaker 1: Just wanted to throw that one out there, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's end. We were in Rangers camp the other day,

523
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Speaker 1: by the way, So if you want to see much

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Speaker 1: We're trying to find ways to incorporate power rankings into

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Speaker 1: our lexicon, aside from just the Hey, who are the

551
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Speaker 1: best teams in our mind right now? CBS helping us

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Speaker 1: out a little bit here Matt Snyder writing an article

553
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Speaker 1: about top tens, So here's a few of them. We're

554
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Speaker 1: going to start with his top ten starting rotations, so

555
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Speaker 1: AJ we're going to look at what he throws out

556
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Speaker 1: there and slice and dice however you want if you

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Speaker 1: think there's teams missing or a team that shouldn't be

558
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Speaker 1: in there. But also, I think the rankings are important here,

559
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Speaker 1: so I'll read them and then we can have fun

560
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Speaker 1: with this. And for him, qualifications very roughly, and I

561
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Speaker 1: like the way he does this. It's not just like

562
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Speaker 1: super nerdy numbers for everything. Projections looking back at last year.

563
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Speaker 1: He wants an ace, He wants at least one, if

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Speaker 1: not two, frontline starters, and he wants to see depth.

565
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Speaker 1: You're not necessarily going to see that with every team

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Speaker 1: on here, but those are the qualifications where he's trying

567
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Speaker 1: to judge things. And I'm with you, right, you want

568
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Speaker 1: to see to get through the season, but then you

569
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Speaker 1: also want to make sure you have what it takes

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Speaker 1: to last through October. So let's start with the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: He has them at ten, the Blue Jays at nine,

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Speaker 1: then the Pirates led by Schemes at eight, The Reds

573
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Speaker 1: are at seven, and here are the Phillies at six,

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Speaker 1: Mariners checking in with the five spot, Rangers at four.

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Speaker 1: He has Schooble and Fromber with the Tigers at three,

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Speaker 1: Red Sox and all of their depth at two, Dodgers

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Speaker 1: at one.

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Speaker 4: I got no problem with the Dodgers at one. They have,

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Speaker 4: you know, ten starters like we talked about the last

580
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Speaker 4: last year, Red Sox at two, okay, with Gray Crochet,

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Speaker 4: Ranger Suarez, Brian Bayo. Okay. My thing is is I

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Speaker 4: think the Mariners should be maybe three or four a

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Speaker 4: little bit higher, and if the Phillies had Wheeler for

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Speaker 4: the whole year. Even with Sanchez and Nola and then

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Speaker 4: Painters he going to step into that. They can, they

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Speaker 4: could maybe move into that top five. For me, The

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Speaker 4: Rangers are the one here that's a little bit too

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Speaker 4: high because the Graamvivaldi and Gore, Ken de Gram and

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Speaker 4: Evaldi stay healthy, right, that's the big, big question mark.

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Speaker 4: Can they stay healthy for real the whole year. And

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Speaker 4: then when we were at Rangers camp the other day,

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Speaker 4: we were like, who's the fifth We don't even know that.

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Speaker 4: So to put them at four when you don't even

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Speaker 4: know who the fifth guy is is a little high

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Speaker 4: for me. But other than that, I don't mind this list.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Reds again have to stay healthy to

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Speaker 4: be a top ten team. The Cubs are sneaky good.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Matthew Boyd Kate Horton tie on steal

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Speaker 4: when he comes back showed a yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't disagree with what AJ's saying that

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Speaker 5: Dodgers have to be up there. Even if you're gonna

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Speaker 5: sit here and argue like pitcher for pitcher, like they

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Speaker 5: have the depth. They have more cy youngs than any

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Speaker 5: starting rotation in the game. To me, the team that

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Speaker 5: I look at on here they did a lot this offseason.

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Speaker 5: Did they do enough? We'll see when the rest of

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Speaker 5: the power rankings come out.

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Speaker 3: It's the Pirates.

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Speaker 5: The Pirates have the opportunity to have the highest ceiling

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Speaker 5: of any team on this Yes, I get the Phillies.

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Speaker 5: If Wheeler comes back, they could have two cy young

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Speaker 5: candidates in a rotation. To me, the Tigers, And because

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Speaker 5: you have Trek Skoobell in your rotation, you say, okay,

614
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Speaker 5: well who's the Okay Framber's behind him? What is justin Verlander?

615
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Speaker 5: Casey Miies is going to be awesome? Flaherty's always up there.

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Speaker 5: To me, the Pirates have potential, potential, just potential to

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Speaker 5: be the best on this list. Because of the fact

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Speaker 5: that you have Paul Skins in your rotation. You couple

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Speaker 5: anybody with Paul Skins. All of a sudden, if Bubba

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Speaker 5: Chandler or Braxton Ashcraft or Jared Jones becomes the guys

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Speaker 5: that you think they're going to become, you have a

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Speaker 5: chance to say that is an Elite one two, maybe

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Speaker 5: an Elite one two three. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: you're shortening series when you have two guys going in

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Speaker 5: a three game series that are legitimate number ones. And

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Speaker 5: then you have Paul Skeins, who is an ace, probably

627
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Speaker 5: the second best pitcher in the game, maybe the first

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Speaker 5: best picture in the game. All of a sudden, that

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Speaker 5: rotation just takes other leaps and bounds. So for the

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Speaker 5: Pirates to move up any more than they are, they

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Speaker 5: have to prove what they have to prove the potential

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Speaker 5: that these young guys have been. You know, we've been

633
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Speaker 5: reading so much about since they burst on the scene

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Speaker 5: in Pro Bowl, in the minor leagues.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty hot take that you think the Pirates

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Speaker 1: could be at the top of the list. There's potential

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Speaker 1: they've got one or two in terms of best starters.

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Speaker 1: I have a little bit of an issue with the depth.

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Speaker 2: On that one.

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Speaker 1: So the one part of the offseason that I didn't

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Speaker 1: like for Pittsburgh was that they did have to trade

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Speaker 1: guys they could have been part of this twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six roster, even if they weren't cracking the star arting

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Speaker 1: rotation from the jump they traded away. I joke, but

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Speaker 1: I know you like the guy and I think he

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Speaker 1: could farewell in Boston. Johanno Viedo. They traded away Mike Burrows,

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Speaker 1: who I think could be a very effective starter in

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Speaker 1: the big leagues. Did they both have spots? I think

649
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Speaker 1: they probably did, but it would have been a nice battle.

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Speaker 3: You need depth.

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Speaker 1: My one issue with Pittsburgh is they might get off

652
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: to a nice hot start, but is there enough there

653
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Speaker 1: when we get later on in the season. They actually

654
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: are a team that will often give you a little

655
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: sign of life in April and maybe that carries through May, June, July.

656
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Speaker 1: But I didn't like that they had to trade those

657
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: kinds of guys away. If I'm them, I'm looking at

658
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: my higher ceiling but lower level talent, right. I mean,

659
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: maybe that couldn't get the deals done. Maybe right, but

660
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: a ball guys that weren't going to necessarily impact the

661
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five team or the twenty twenty six sorry

662
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: team that they're hoping makes the playoffs for the first

663
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Speaker 1: time in a decade.

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Speaker 5: I hear it, and that's why I prefaced it by

665
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Speaker 5: saying they have the highest ceiling, because those guys have

666
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Speaker 5: they have to hit for the and it's this, this

667
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Speaker 5: is why I'm not gonna pick the Pirates to finish

668
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 5: as high as people think they're gonna finish. I think

669
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 5: they're projected to finish above the Brewers in the division,

670
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 5: Like it's so hard for all those guys to hit.

671
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Speaker 5: My comment was, they have the potential to have the

672
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Speaker 5: highest ceiling because they already have Paul Skeens. It's not

673
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Speaker 5: like they're saying, oh, we don't know what Paul Skeens is.

674
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Speaker 5: Paul Skeens is the most dominant start first two years

675
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Speaker 5: of any big league pitcher. Like it's the most dominant

676
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Speaker 5: two seasons that he's put together. So he's solidified. Who

677
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Speaker 5: else is gonna step up? Who is gonna be that

678
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Speaker 5: next guy? And you know, is it Bubba Chandler, Is

679
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Speaker 5: Mitch Keller gonna take another step? Or is Mitch Keller

680
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 5: gonna be just a massively solid three or four. If

681
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Speaker 5: if Bubba Chandler says, Okay, I'm gonna throw one hundred

682
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Speaker 5: with my ninety two mile hour change up splitter thing,

683
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Speaker 5: I just think I think there's such a high ceiling

684
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Speaker 5: for them that it's worth watching. Because we could also

685
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Speaker 5: say at the end of the season or halfway through

686
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Speaker 5: the season, pirates rotations back down to like twelve or thirteen,

687
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Speaker 5: and that's only because it is being held up by

688
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Speaker 5: Paul Skins. I don't think there is a group rotation

689
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: lineup anywhere in the game that is so heavily held

690
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Speaker 5: up by one guy, and Paul Skins. Paul Skins holds

691
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 5: it up more than Aaron Judge for the Yankees lineup,

692
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 5: more than Shoho Tani for the fact that what he

693
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 5: does with the Dodgers, they're more well rounded, you know,

694
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Speaker 5: more than any other group. It's Paul Skans and that rotation.

695
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Speaker 5: And I think some of those other guys are going

696
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Speaker 5: to do some legitimate things. They have athletic young pitchers.

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Speaker 1: Bet MGM insights for us on the World Baseball Classic

698
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Speaker 1: right now some line movement. We're looking at two teams

699
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Speaker 1: in particular, Team USA from open to now plus one

700
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: at the open. Now it's at minus one ten. Venezuela

701
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: has jumped a little bit too. They were at plus

702
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: fourteen now checking in with ten to one odds to

703
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Speaker 1: win it all.

704
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: And we're just focusing on two here.

705
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Speaker 1: There are many more that we can talk about at

706
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Speaker 1: some point, but thoughts online movement so far. AJ Let's

707
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: start with Team USA. So they go from a plus

708
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: money odds plus one forty.

709
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Speaker 2: That's cool.

710
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: Now at minus one ten, and we're learning a little

711
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Speaker 1: bit about how it could be rough for them with

712
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Speaker 1: the pitching decisions. Again, I don't know, do you think

713
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't really like the value there and that course

714
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: to even money, but I know they're the favorite. But

715
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: if I'm looking for value on who's going to win

716
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: this thing, I'm going to look elsewhere.

717
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: You know.

718
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: If I want to go game by game and bet

719
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: on Team USA, cool, but I don't think I'm looking

720
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: at this like they're an easy favorite.

721
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: What's Dominican? Do we do we have a Dominican? Because

722
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 4: Venezuela to me is a good bet. I'm not sold

723
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: on their pitching, but I like the Venezuelan hitters and

724
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: I like their team, and they were in the semifinals

725
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: last time, and they were a treat swing away from

726
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: being in the finals. So I mean plus thousand is good,

727
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 4: especially if you're from Venezuela and you think they have

728
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: a good chance. But I mean I think that the

729
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 4: USA is the clear favorite. But man again, Japan, they've

730
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: won three of these things, right, they know what they're doing.

731
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, do I want USA to win. Yes,

732
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 4: line movement is based on injuries and news that's coming

733
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: out and teams that don't have guys and teams who

734
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 4: get guys. So I mean I'd be more I'd be

735
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: more willing to bet on a Venezuela and DR something

736
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: like that than I would on the USA just because

737
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Speaker 4: of the odds.

738
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Speaker 1: I'll give you some more. Okay, Team Japan's at plus

739
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: three point fifty. Dominican Republic is plus four hundred, and

740
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, that's the one because we were going

741
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: over some line movement. Venezuela is now at plus one thousand,

742
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: and after that it's a huge drop off. Then you've

743
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: got Team Mexico and Team Puerto Rico both at twenty

744
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: five to one odds to win this thing.

745
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 2: Where's your money.

746
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: At tr for me is the one four hundred plus

747
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: four hundred because they're stacked pitching lineup. They are and

748
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: they love it. Got you know this? They love it? Man?

749
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: Did you get down there? There was the dr the

750
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: Latin Maria. Not the USA doesn't love it, not that

751
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 4: Japan doesn't love it. But you played in winter ball.

752
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: This is winter ball with big leaguers.

753
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: This is where I think the advantage is and I

754
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 5: think what this is why Japan has won so many

755
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 5: of these. I don't necessarily think physically statistically they have

756
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: a better team. They're ready. There's dr guys that were

757
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: playing winter ball so that they would be ready for WBC.

758
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 5: AJ would tell you, I saw it all the time.

759
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 5: Dudes come into their first live at bat and spring

760
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 5: training and you're like, you're trying to like, wow, this

761
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 5: looks super fast, and they're just like, whack first pitch.

762
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: It's like, how are they doing this? Like Bobby I

763
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 5: got done playing like a week and a half ago.

764
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: So the guys who are closer to mid season form

765
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 5: hitters wise, and also pitchers, but I think it's a

766
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 5: little different for pitchers. Hitters wise, they're ready to go.

767
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: If it takes.

768
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: You winnings to get going a little bit because you

769
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 5: haven't been playing, that's where you run into a little

770
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: bit of a a little bit of a problem. A

771
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: couple exhibition games it helps, but you got to hit

772
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 5: the ground running. And if you're in mid season form

773
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 5: because you played in winter ball or the Japanese guys

774
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 5: they keep playing, they prepare for these these quote off

775
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 5: season events. That's why they have the advantage.

776
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, gray value with Team Japan. For me, they won

777
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: it last time around. They have a ton of talent,

778
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: other reasons for prep like Kratz mentioned, and I don't

779
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: think they'll have the same drama with the pitching. You're

780
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: there or you're not. I guess it's a little less right.

781
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: Roki Sazaki's not participating. I'm tatuya Amai is probably going

782
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: to join the team later on. But then aside from that,

783
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: they've got the full stack. I know Otani said he's

784
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: not pitching. I still think he could in a final appear.

785
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: It's his world. We're just living in it. I'm Amoto's there,

786
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: showed dem Naga's there. There's a lot to like with

787
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: their pitching staff, at talented pitchers who are not over

788
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: in the major leagues yet. So I still think there's

789
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: a lot of value there. I'm actually surprised there at

790
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: plus three point fifty. All right, leading up to that,

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Speaker 1: Here on slappants Number one, let's look at the Foul

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Speaker 1: Territory Spring training calendar engineered by Fast and All. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to cubs PR for helping us out today, John,

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Speaker 1: Joanna Jesse, You're awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the great setup.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Sloan Park for feeding aj all day and

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Speaker 1: keeping him happy and not cranky. He was very very

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Speaker 1: happy to eat, just like me. If you want to

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Speaker 1: training tour. And then two more things. One Bob Nightingale's

821
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Speaker 1: note that came out towards the back half of the show.

822
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: Here Merril Kelly was going to be the opening day

823
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: starter against the Dodgers for the Diamondbacks, he is sidelined

824
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: with intercostal nerve irritation, not in the mix to be

825
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: ready for the season opener.

826
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Speaker 2: That is really tough news.

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Speaker 1: So the Diamondbacks will get you more on that once

828
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Speaker 1: we find it out. But krats, that's a team that

829
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: can't afford too many of those. You want to talk

830
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: about starter depth. They've got some good names, it doesn't

831
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: go really deep down the line, and they need Kelly

832
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Speaker 1: tough one there.

833
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 5: It's good they got gown. But I've never heard of it.

834
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 5: Intercostal nerve irritation. Intercostal is obviously people say, Okay, it's

835
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 5: a oblique or whatever, but nerve, intercostal nerve irritation, it's tough.

836
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Sounds like something we'll have to ask our injury expert

837
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: will carol about at some point. I'm sure he'll talk

838
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Speaker 1: about it on Injury Territory. Congrats to Fish on first

839
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: joining the FT Network and krats hats on.

840
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: The way out obviously, and where we've clearly found out

841
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 5: is AJ's favorite Chicago team is the Cubs and they

842
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 5: got a nice spring training.

843
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Hat too, so they do.

844
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: AJ loves the Bears, and now he loves the Cubs.

845
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow as we keep rolling on the

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00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: camp tour.