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Speaker 1: Wynnie Cummings is a stand up comedian, actress, writer, director, producer,

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Speaker 1: and fellow podcaster. She is amazing. She is pregnant. She

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Speaker 1: is entertaining. She is talented. She is smart. She is outspoken.

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Speaker 1: She is unfiltered. She has had an incredible career. She

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Speaker 1: has starred in shows like Two Broke Girls, released seven

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Speaker 1: comedy specials, published a book, and is the host of

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Speaker 1: the podcast Good for You Now. She's ready for the

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Speaker 1: next chapter in her life as a mom. This is

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Speaker 1: just be with Whitney Cummings. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: I am so sorry, I am late.

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Speaker 1: I don't care at all.

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Speaker 3: You're like the person who's approval I weirdly care about

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Speaker 3: the most. On some level, I was thinking about you, though.

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Speaker 3: So I put this Zoom podcast in my calendar while

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Speaker 3: I was in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 2: So I thought I had two more hours and time zone.

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Speaker 1: Shit's been happening a lot lately. Wait, so the clip

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Speaker 1: is not in the back of our head It's at

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Speaker 1: the front, which is the headline. Like, I've never seen

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Speaker 1: someone with the clips so forward.

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Speaker 2: Oh my hair clip?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I need to okay one thing at a time.

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Speaker 3: I was just making a bagel, thinking about you. I

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Speaker 3: think about you every time I make a bagel.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm famous for bagels.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you are infamous, more than famous, famous and infamous.

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Speaker 2: So I do my clip like this, I can't. I

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Speaker 2: do a very high pony okay, high on the side.

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Speaker 2: It's like a mini facelift. Okay.

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Speaker 3: And then I twist, twist, twist, put it in the front,

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Speaker 3: roll it like a hot dog, move it back.

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Speaker 2: And then and then clip it like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I like it. And because also that means you

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Speaker 1: have to have nice clip. That means it gives use

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Speaker 1: to the nice clips that you buy. And and and

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Speaker 1: you're pregnant.

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Speaker 3: And I'm pregnant. I just started I got I started

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Speaker 3: buying these hair clips. I used to do the J

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Speaker 3: Crew ones. Those were so expensive and I would lose them.

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Speaker 2: I found these.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where, but I saw this hack on

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Speaker 3: TikTok where you can use a hairclip to be a

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Speaker 3: tripod for your phone.

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Speaker 2: Same, So that's why I bought these.

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Speaker 1: It's so smart. And you have that little wallet on

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Speaker 1: your phone that I got too. Did they send that

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Speaker 1: to you? I think they might have sent that to me.

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Speaker 1: It's like a wallet, and you can put a purse

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Speaker 1: and make a phone purse.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the purse phone wallet thing, I'm very picky about.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure someone has maybe sent one, but I'm very

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Speaker 3: specific about the.

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Speaker 2: Kind I like.

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Speaker 3: I do the bandelier, it only has a thing for

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Speaker 3: credit cards.

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Speaker 2: That's it. You're right.

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Speaker 1: I bought that one. I bought it. I didn't get sented.

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Speaker 1: It was case logic, that's sent. I bought that and

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Speaker 1: I bought a strap to go with it, and I started.

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Speaker 1: I did like three walks and then stopped, and I

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Speaker 1: felt like, you're that mom. Now you're that bitch. Now

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Speaker 1: that has a purse phone.

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Speaker 2: It's a new pocket protector. Everyone thinks you're a loser.

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Speaker 3: But I always know where my phone is because what

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Speaker 3: I used to do is I would always have my

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Speaker 3: phone playing music or a podcast, so I could always

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Speaker 3: find it. I always always have it. I could be

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Speaker 3: giving myself a very cancer, but I.

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Speaker 2: Always wear it on my person.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I got to get back to that, except

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Speaker 1: they had vandalier. You have to find a way to

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Speaker 1: put the charger, like you could have the charger somehow,

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Speaker 1: because you have to make a choice, like you're either

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Speaker 1: charging or you're pursing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's uh, there's a charger report on the bottom.

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Speaker 1: No, like the extra charger that you could jolt in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the day, or like that little apple

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Speaker 1: thing that you can attach. They could really get.

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Speaker 2: You mean you need a charge charger, a charge charger.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, then I might take you downstairs and show

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Speaker 3: you this new contraption I started using.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I can see we haven't even gotten into

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Speaker 1: the interview, but this is great.

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Speaker 2: Wait.

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Speaker 1: I have a water purse too, because if you're going

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Speaker 1: through the airport, it's a per it's a water bottle

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Speaker 1: that has a purse strap. So you've got two things

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Speaker 1: going on. Okay, she goes, she's walking, and she's walking,

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Speaker 1: and she's walking, and.

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Speaker 2: We're walking through my house. Because I am at this

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Speaker 2: point a Karen. I am so sick of these Silicon

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Speaker 2: Valley dorks. Hold on, I'm sick of.

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Speaker 1: She's trying to one up me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, sorry.

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Speaker 1: The water purse triggered her.

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Speaker 2: Now that I've seen your TikTok and how sort of

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Speaker 2: intimate it is, I'm fearless. Now there's nothing I won't

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Speaker 2: put on the internet. After what I've seen you do

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Speaker 2: to a bagel.

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Speaker 1: This entire interview is going to be based off of

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Speaker 1: your twenty five things you don't know about me, And

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Speaker 1: I want to give us Weekly a shout out because

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Speaker 1: I've learned so much about so many people from that list.

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Speaker 2: That's the other one.

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Speaker 3: I like that one too, But I don't like it

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Speaker 3: when people don't tell their secrets. Tell me why you

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Speaker 3: lost weight, if it's ozempic or whatever it is, I

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Speaker 3: don't care.

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Speaker 2: Just share it.

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Speaker 3: If you have some life hack, tell everybody about it, Like,

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Speaker 3: help make other people's lives easier.

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Speaker 2: What is else? Is the point of being a celebrity

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Speaker 2: if you can't? Okay, so this is a wow.

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Speaker 1: It's they're like body chaps she's putting on.

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Speaker 3: Is it's like a vest you can wear. I just

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Speaker 3: I'm not wearing underwear that has all these little pouches

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Speaker 3: and then you zip it and it's actually a cute

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Speaker 3: little vest and you can put it over anything.

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Speaker 2: And so I'll put the charge charger in.

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Speaker 3: One, I'll put the phone in the other, and then

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Speaker 3: I'll just walk around while they're charging.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, let's just discuss something. Okay, Is that

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Speaker 1: our non pregnant people allowed to wear that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this I got before pregnancy. It's like a do

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Speaker 3: you know the exercise thing people are doing now called

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Speaker 3: the rucksack where you put like a backpack on of

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Speaker 3: thirty pounds and you go for a walk. It's supposed

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Speaker 3: to be it's supposed to be amazing for you. Because

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Speaker 3: they're now finding that we're so all over the place.

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Speaker 2: I love us.

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Speaker 1: Oh so this is what my literally the girls said,

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Speaker 1: this is what my interview with David Spade was like.

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Speaker 1: It went nowhere and it never started and it never finished.

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Speaker 1: It was like a free association of thought. So I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what we're talking about. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: there wherever there is.

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Speaker 3: We're like two puppies that finally get to play. I

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Speaker 3: feel like, but I feel like your fans just want

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Speaker 3: to know, like I don't know, like just want us to.

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Speaker 2: Be authentic and whatever.

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Speaker 3: I'm romnic and so I just throw this over something.

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Speaker 2: I just throw it over something. I'm sick of carrying

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Speaker 2: a purse. I'm sick of losing it.

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Speaker 3: I'm sick of it turning into a flaccid ballsack when

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Speaker 3: I put it down the bottom of purses are disgusting.

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Speaker 3: They're too expensive. I always spill water bottles in them.

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Speaker 1: Because you have to have pouch. You have to have

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Speaker 1: a pouch lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 1: Every person has to have a pouch in it. So

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Speaker 1: when you go in, you either take the one pouch

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Speaker 1: and transfer it or it's also shaping your bags and

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Speaker 1: you're putting your lip glass and stuff, and so it's

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Speaker 1: never going to hit the bottom of your nice bag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you reach in and you're just like,

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Speaker 3: am I about to get im paled by something?

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Speaker 2: Am I about to get tetanus? But you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: You can pull the pouch out and you don't have

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Speaker 1: to deal with the purse. The purse is basically a

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Speaker 1: facade for the interior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I have to have a pouch for

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Speaker 2: my pens because one of the pens is going to explode.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things I need to carry with me.

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Speaker 3: And I also feel like I'm so psycho now about

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Speaker 3: trying to stay hydrated, and there's no water bottle that's

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Speaker 3: not eventually going to unscrew in your purse turn upside down.

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Speaker 2: I also, have you done this yet?

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Speaker 1: Where that's why you need a water purse?

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Speaker 2: Is that is that a thing?

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Speaker 1: I bought them? And yeah, they it's a purse. It's

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Speaker 1: half the size of this bottle, and it's got a chain.

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Speaker 1: It basically looks like your bandlair bag and you can

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Speaker 1: carry it around.

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Speaker 2: Oh like a okay, got it? Like the I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're not saving Private Ryan, Like we're not. Okay, what

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Speaker 2: are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: You fucking military pockets. I've met you're on the set

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Speaker 4: of Masks. I've never tried to be delighted because you're

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Speaker 4: a guest in my home. That's ridiculous. I do not

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Speaker 4: believe you just came. We're not in saving price. You

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Speaker 4: are in saving Private Ryan. That thing put them on

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Speaker 4: your social media.

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Speaker 1: It's not okay, let's start here. Whose baby are you

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Speaker 1: carrying that?

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you, but.

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Speaker 1: You're like January Jones.

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember like she was she was pregnant and

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Speaker 1: no one knew whose baby it was.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right. No, But he's he's wonderful, and I

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Speaker 2: just he's not a public person. Yeah. I have three weeks.

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Speaker 3: I have three more weeks and then I'm having my

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Speaker 3: I'm having my first child.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, it's the best thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm terrified of childbirth, but other than that, I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to it. Oh my, did you have when you

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Speaker 2: had your daughter?

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Speaker 3: Did you have like a boy name and a girl

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Speaker 3: name because I'm in the market for a boy name.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but they were both generic and could kind of

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Speaker 1: be either. I think in the beginning, well yes, kind of. Well,

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Speaker 1: Brent is not couldn't be really necessarily be a boy,

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Speaker 1: but Casey was one either. And I think we changed

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Speaker 1: her middle name. I think we first had her as

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Speaker 1: a different middle name and then change it and had

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Speaker 1: to legally change it. I changed my mind and literally

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Speaker 1: she already had a legal name change, and I.

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Speaker 2: Asked you, what is that? What does that look like?

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Speaker 2: A couple women? I know, and it's always women. I

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Speaker 2: really like they go. After like two weeks, I realized

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Speaker 2: he wasn't a Solomon, he was a.

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Speaker 1: Market Oh oh, that's hilarious. I know she was always

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Speaker 1: she was gonna be a Brin, But I think the

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Speaker 1: middle name was Alex. And the reason I wanted to

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Speaker 1: change it was in case I ever had a boy,

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Speaker 1: and then I wanted to save it. It's it's all blurry.

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Speaker 3: Now, look, my last name is Cummings. It's a tough pairing,

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Speaker 3: it's a tough handle. I wanted to name him Maximus.

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Speaker 3: I realized that was not a that's not fair to him.

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Speaker 1: it was sort of secret, and you were going to

442
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: school and listening to what other people are saying. So

443
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,639
Speaker 1: for people of teens, it happens quickly. Like my daughter's thirteen,

444
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,440
Speaker 1: and I've never mentioned a thing in all these years

445
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 1: about weight or you know, I don't like anyone around

446
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 1: talking about, oh I have to lose weight, or I

447
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 1: don't look good in these ps like there's zero. But

448
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,199
Speaker 1: you can't control what goes on at school. So that's

449
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,439
Speaker 1: why I'm relating to you on a different side of

450
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,640
Speaker 1: the coin. But like the same time of your life,

451
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 1: of a girl's life.

452
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 3: I remember because there would be I it's just funny,

453
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 3: and I don't mean to laugh because at the time,

454
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 3: you know, these people were struggling. But like a diet

455
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 3: was like cottage cheese and truscits, you know, like that

456
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 3: was like supposedly low fat, and you like think about

457
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 3: it now and you're like, well, that's like a cheap day,

458
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 3: like got in there or whatever. But I remember that's

459
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 3: what I would bring to school because that when my

460
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 3: mom made me lunch, that's like all she I saw.

461
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 3: I was like the weirdo at school who had like

462
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 3: triscuts and cottage cheese.

463
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 2: Like I had the lunch bag that.

464
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 3: Was just like wet and just like like it was

465
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 3: a My mom worked at Bloomingdale, so it was a

466
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 3: little brown bag.

467
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: Like I always had, like a blooming sales bag. You know.

468
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 3: It was just so weird And another thing that you

469
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 3: made me think of. I remember one time finding dex

470
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 3: a trim.

471
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Speaker 2: Do you remember that. I don't.

472
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 3: It was, of course, quote weight loss pill. It was

473
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: I think probably just a lot of caffeine. And I

474
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 3: remember I used to sneak that and try to take that.

475
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: But I would find like weird sketchy diet pills.

476
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: That probably that's.

477
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: One thing that's better about now. It's different. People are

478
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: obsessed with intimontent fasting and juicing and cleansing, and it

479
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: was empic back then. You're right, Like there was was

480
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: a diet that said like one hot dog, one half

481
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, and then you could have one

482
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: scoop of an ll ice cream. Like it was all

483
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: random and it was very Scarsdale diet, Akins diet. Like

484
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: every week there was a new thing that you'd grip onto.

485
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 1: The slim fast bars came out.

486
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: There was one that was like steak and wine exactly.

487
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 3: The kind of thing which I think I'm kind of

488
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: into that one.

489
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 2: Remember.

490
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 3: But like also we were all a little off, you know,

491
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: like remember the food pyramid when we were like sent

492
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 3: it was like the whole bottom was like loaves of bread,

493
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: like French bread, potatoes, like a big pile of beans.

494
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: Like it was just like the psycho.

495
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 1: And measuring measuring. They wanted to get to measure your food.

496
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: It was so noisy to begin with. You're starting off,

497
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, the food pyramid was totally insustainable.

498
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was just I mean, you know, and

499
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: I think everyone's bodies are different, you know whatever. But

500
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 3: but so then by the time I get to high school,

501
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 3: I'm full blown. It's just about being as skinny as possible.

502
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: It's just about being as skinny as possible. And something

503
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 3: I will say that is, you know, you know when

504
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: people struggle with uh, severe in orexia or severe over

505
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: eating stuff and being really really heavy. I've learned a

506
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: lot about how there's some childhood sexual abuse sometimes involved

507
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 3: in that, so you know, it's about sort of making

508
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 3: yourself either unappealing or not feminine or not sexually attractive,

509
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 3: or protecting yourself.

510
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 2: By being heavy and stuff.

511
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 3: So I feel like I always need to kind of

512
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 3: say that the same I was reading something about people

513
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: to get a lot of plastic surgery sometimes and get

514
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: super dysomorphic that they're trying to change the face of

515
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 3: the change the person that was molested or something. So's, yeah,

516
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of like other stuff in here. And

517
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: we absolutely had some you know, inappropriate stuff going on

518
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: in you know for me as a child too, So

519
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what was what.

520
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 1: You're talking about. Sexual stuff, yeah, sexual same like me too.

521
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: You remember things and your mind plays tricks on you,

522
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: but you, like the father's friend might and you think,

523
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: like you remember the moment too clearly about a couple

524
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: of people, but like you just dealt with it, and

525
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: you almost feel like fraudulent if you came out and

526
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: talked about it specifically, because if feels hazy. But you

527
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: know it's true, that kind of thing.

528
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: Yes, And I know a couple situations that were absolutely true.

529
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: I think I was confused for a while because one

530
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: of them was a woman.

531
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: Oh and you know, well back in the day, we.

532
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: Didn't babysitters, didn't get them off apps where they were vetted.

533
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: It was just like like, does anyone on the street

534
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 3: have a thirteen year old son? Like that was your

535
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: babysitter back then.

536
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: Totally, totally, totally, totally I was physically abused by a

537
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: babysitter too, That's totally true. Anyone could smack anyone could

538
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: could smack you. Anyone could be you know, what's it

539
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: called spank you.

540
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: Oh. I would go to friend's houses.

541
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: I would get I mean literally against a wall with

542
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 3: a ruler by someone else's.

543
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: Dad exactly, which doesn't happen at your own house exactly.

544
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 3: You can't you can't even find that on porn hub,

545
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 3: but they even take that down, you know.

546
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: So it was you know, so there is some of that.

547
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: I have no reason.

548
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: To have needed to be that skinny, you know, so

549
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: there was obviously something else going on. I'm sure, you know,

550
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: it made people kind of I've talked to people, and

551
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: that I went to high school with.

552
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: It made people kind of like scared to talk to me.

553
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 3: And maybe I liked that in a way because I

554
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: was really awkward socially and I was very a loner

555
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: kind of and maybe I like I never went to

556
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 3: lunch and sat with the popular girls.

557
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: I went eight raisins in my car, you know, shit

558
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: like that, insular, isolated, and then by the time I

559
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: got to college, it just was weird.

560
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 3: Like it was like I would take these Swiss miss

561
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: powdered hot chocolate. I would buy like five or six

562
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 3: boxes at the grocery store, poured them in a bowl,

563
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: put water, and then the ones that only had twenty

564
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: calories and mix them up, put.

565
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: It in the microwave and turn like turn them into

566
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: like a cake.

567
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: Wow. You know what it sounds though, like you were

568
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: obsessive because I relate to that too, so you needed

569
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: like a new project, like, oh, this is the diet.

570
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm only eating one rice, two apples, like a weird formula.

571
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: It becomes your own. I don't know if you're like

572
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: that now. I still am, but in organizing and like

573
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: getting rid of things and nothing extra, it's obsessive and

574
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: it's a problem.

575
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: You're safe food. So it's like if someone was like, hey,

576
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: do you want you know, acado.

577
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: At this avocado toast that probably has less calories and

578
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 3: less fat. It's just it's not I know how this ends.

579
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: I know how this works.

580
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: I have you know. By the time I, you know, got.

581
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: To La, it was it was turkey jerky and maple syrup,

582
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 3: just weird.

583
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: And then I went through loud those were allowed, like popcorn,

584
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: you were allowed, but others are forbidden foods.

585
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: Yes, then it was it was carrots and ketchup carrots

586
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: and barbecue sauce. Like it just was condiments, you know,

587
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: like weird condiments shit like that, but stuff that ultimately

588
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 3: I think made me need to hide because it was embarrassing. Yes,

589
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: it was never something socially accepted and something that made

590
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: me feel some shame afterwards, you know.

591
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: So it was just bizarre.

592
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: I definitely went through those seaweed things. I'll see even

593
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: those seaweed things, but the wasabi seaweed sheets, yes.

594
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: But that's new, Like how how has your how has

595
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: this manifested? As a woman in Hollywood? And then as

596
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: a pregnant woman.

597
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: I got to the point, there's a couple of things.

598
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 3: I went to a program called ACA Adult Children of

599
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: Alcoholics that is about growing up an alcoholic home and

600
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: all the sort of maladaptive behaviors that you get very

601
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: honestly in order to survive as a child. They serve

602
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: you very well, you know, the people pleasing, the mothering, martyring, micromanaging,

603
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: self depriving, control, addiction, perfectionism, addiction, the overachieving thing. And

604
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: then went to that program was a total miracle, really

605
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 3: helped me. You know, you do these like inner child

606
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: exercises of like you treat yourself? Would you treat yourself

607
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: the way you would treat a five year old child?

608
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: That kind of sounds dorky.

609
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: You write her letters, you know, you write the question

610
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: about what do you want to eat today? And your

611
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 3: right hand you respond as her in your non dominant hand,

612
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: and she'll.

613
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 2: Say like peanut butter and jelly, and you go, well,

614
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: that's all reading for lunch. And I also got sick

615
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: of wasting so much time.

616
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: I did read this book called The Tools I Phil

617
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: Stutts and Barry Michaels. Phil Stutts is like the biggest

618
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: like therapist you know out here, And there's this exercise

619
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: called the deathbed exercise. It just resonated with me. It'd

620
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: be like, you imagine yourself on your deathbed and you

621
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: picture all the things you're going to be, like annoyed

622
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: you wasted time on. And I remember being I remember

623
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: being with Busy Phillips.

624
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know Busy. We were like working on

625
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: something and she was like, if I'm on my deathbed,

626
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: going like I can't believe how much time I wasted

627
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: thinking about calories and food, And I went, that is

628
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: going to be me, like just the how many was that?

629
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: And what am I gonna eat next? And what did

630
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: I eat today?

631
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: Now I have to go on a walk, and like

632
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: I didn't have a personal it's a full time job,

633
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, I feel like I'd be the

634
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: most successful person in Hollywood if I just took the

635
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: energy I spend on like driving around the city getting

636
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: that one.

637
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: Protein bar that's the safe protein bar this month.

638
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, and just to meet with organizing, to be

639
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: honest with you, like that's going to be with organizing.

640
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: Have you ever hired someone to come in and do

641
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: it for you or you won't?

642
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: I could do it for them.

643
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: I there is.

644
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: Though, do you ever play like like Tetris or any

645
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: of those games?

646
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 2: I started going back to playing old games.

647
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: It's like the Symmetry of the Tea and Tetris, Like

648
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 3: don't you know that video game?

649
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 2: Remember those things are falling.

650
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: It's very soothing to organize and put things in their

651
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: place and know where they are.

652
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 2: But that's back man.

653
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: I was always obsessed with misspac Man and it's very satisfying.

654
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: And it's very much like that. And the thing is, I,

655
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: because of the crazy amount that I have going on

656
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: in my life, the being organized is also critical. So

657
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: it's like you have to be in a relationship with it,

658
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: that's right. So I have to be in a relationship

659
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: with being organized because I couldn't do all that I

660
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: do without it. So it's not like it's not like

661
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: pulling me down. It's actually great, But it's something I

662
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: can't and I can't even when I talk to my

663
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: therapist about it. It cannot It can be improved, but

664
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: it cannot be intervened. It can't be. It's never gonna

665
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: I will go on to my deathbeds still being organized.

666
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: Like I'll have my coffin. We'll have labels inside of it.

667
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: Can I is that bad?

668
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't know, right, it's like working, yeah, people,

669
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: people who get mixed up, their coffins get mixed up

670
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: all the time.

671
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: That's a real thing.

672
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: You're looking at my podcast studio, which is like the

673
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: pee Wee's playhouse, like chaos. And I'm the same with organizing,

674
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: Like I I don't know. I don't think we should

675
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: have to overpathologize everything about ourselves.

676
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: Like because number one, it's also just like a hobby.

677
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: People like, oh my god, you're going to recopy the

678
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: labels again. I'm like, there's this look.

679
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: It's fiddling. I call it fiddling, and it's true. People

680
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: guard and they want to fuck around their garden. It's fiddling.

681
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: And I like it too. So that's a great point.

682
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: I found a new system. There's a new system.

683
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's like the fact that we're

684
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: still on metric or whatever and everywhere, like we should

685
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: update new systems if they're not. Like because I went

686
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: through it organizing, I went through the wicker baskets with

687
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: the and then I'm like, I can't see my shit.

688
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: So then I ran through the plexiglass bag. I'm like,

689
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: this is better. But I'm like, wait, now there's a

690
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: version with drawers like I. Now I'm getting those like I.

691
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: It's fun, it's like gambling. It's for entertainment too.

692
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also like home decore too, you know.

693
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: It's also there is a I think it's really important,

694
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: especially because I think people like us we always want

695
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: to grow and we want to change. And I'll look

696
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: at things that I'm like, that's okay. The I do

697
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: have a wrapping paper closet.

698
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I do too, I have I have

699
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: a room. I have like a candy speck amazing.

700
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: But like I was pathologically thoughtful. That's an ACA thing

701
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: for a while, And I gave too many gifts for

702
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: a long time because I didn't think I was enough.

703
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: And I had the.

704
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: Whole like shelf of dipty candles just in case someone

705
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: came over.

706
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: When I tell you I have a gift life. I

707
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: have to. I started on Halloween. You have to say,

708
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: this is crazy, like I have a gift obsession.

709
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: Me too, and I think I love it.

710
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: Though I love it, it makes me. I live for it.

711
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: It's how we show love.

712
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: And to me, I feel like because everyone always thinks

713
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: I'm being sarcastic, it's hard for me to be genuine

714
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: with people when I'm like, I love you, You're such

715
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: a good friend, or I have to make a joke

716
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: or people assume it. So I really like giving gifts

717
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: because it's like there, it's and also like you know,

718
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: it's a nightmare out there, and like a sixty eighty

719
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: dollars candle. No one should ever buy that for themselves,

720
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

721
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: And it's systematic too though, but it also is satisfying,

722
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: like it costs money, you spent, you send it out,

723
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: you wrap it, you send it emphedes, it looks good,

724
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: they get it. I live for it. I do it

725
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: all year round.

726
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: It it makes me feel. My goal in life was

727
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: always to be Santa Claus. I saw Santa Claus at

728
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: the mall, and when I want to be that guy.

729
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 3: So but then I go, Okay, it can't be an

730
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: entire thing.

731
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not as successful as you.

732
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, I need to take this down

733
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: a little bit because this is a little bit of

734
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: a vestige when I had way too low self esteem

735
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: and I thought I had to send a thank you

736
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: card after I got a thank you card, so let

737
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: me take So I think that updating our organization is

738
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: also a way of showing our growth, you know. And

739
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: so like I had this whole thing of the press

740
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: on nails section, I'm like, I don't really do that anymore.

741
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: I used to be super obsessive.

742
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: About my nails and then I can't get anything done

743
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: and then one breaks and that's all I'm thinking about.

744
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: I was like, that became a weird sick addiction and

745
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: obsession and perfectionism, you know.

746
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Because that's my circular reference. You have to go get

747
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: the manicure again and get it filled in, and then

748
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: you have to it's.

749
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: Let me, so let me.

750
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 3: I need to reorganize this because this is actually a

751
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: negative contribution to my future self. So when I upgrade

752
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: something mentally to get healthier, I'm gonna have So it's

753
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: not unhealthy to go, I need to organize this again.

754
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's not pathological, it's just that I we're

755
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: not here, We're not in this place anymore.

756
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Well, everything doesn't have to be healthy. You could eat

757
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: Cheetos and you don't have to go to jail. I'm

758
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: saying it's like not healthy, but like you're some TV

759
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: shows aren't healthy, but you're doing it. It's like it's

760
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: not a guilty pleasure, but it's something that you're doing

761
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: it over. Being overly healthy is also unhealthy.

762
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: Do you know about Barbara's Cheese puffs.

763
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: Barbara's Barbara the health brand.

764
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have cheese yes that are that are like Cheetos.

765
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: They're delicious.

766
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I think all that. I think all that Calieflower too.

767
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: It's that that hippies respectfully to it's got it's a scam.

768
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: It's a scam.

769
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: I think.

770
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: Just eat the real thing.

771
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: H Barber's cheese puffs. What is it made of?

772
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: Because I just ordered a bunch of them. I don't

773
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: know that if it's cauliflower though.

774
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: No I know, But I'm just saying, like if you

775
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: look at a free tho, there are three ingredients corn oil, salt,

776
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: so like that's it.

777
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: This is cornmeal, age, cheddar, pasteurized milk. Yeah, I agree

778
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: with you. Like the the cauliflower rice and the collie

779
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: all that shit. I'm like, I'm just gonna be hungry

780
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: in five minutes.

781
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: And it's also mixing together a bunch of other shit,

782
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: which is a different process. So that's what I think

783
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: about that.

784
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's a good point.

785
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: So the alcohol in your house, because I grew up

786
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: also with a mother who was an alcoholic, and there

787
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: are different styles. I remember each drink, like the special

788
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: drink phases, what the drink order would be. But there

789
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: are different styles. Some people they call it French type

790
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: or they're just always having a drink and then into

791
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: the late night drinking. But it's not like a fifth

792
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: of vodka in the toilet holder behind you and the

793
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: person's like blackout. It's just like always sort of marinated.

794
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: That was my house with combined with the cigarettes and

795
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: the bolima. What was your style in your house of

796
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: your mom like embarrassing or like what was it?

797
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: I love?

798
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 3: I love this question, and first I'll say it helped

799
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: me to hear in order for alcoholism to be present,

800
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: alcohol doesn't have to be present and that's not just

801
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: because alcohol is being hidden or whatever, but there's other

802
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: forms of isms, you know, compulsive behaviors and.

803
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

804
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 3: So if someone's listening and they're like, yeah, my life

805
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: was chaotic as a kid, and I sort of understand

806
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: all this, but I never saw alcohol like I was

807
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: kind of the same way. You know, my mom was

808
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: a socialite. She was you know, worked at apartment stores,

809
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: and she always had like a glass of white wine.

810
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: It was like it was the white wine spritzer. It

811
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: was always like a spritzer, like it.

812
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: Died in a while.

813
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: Being an alcoholic is hard.

814
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: Well.

815
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: The ordering was always too apologetic, like I look back now,

816
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: and it was like looking at the menu like I

817
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: would do this when I had eating disorders and I

818
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: was out with people, and I would go like, ah,

819
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: should I get? I would pretend I was being rushed,

820
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: you know, or couldn't make a decision. I'd be like, oh,

821
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 3: should I get the burger?

822
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: Should I get the spaghetti? Or you know what, I'll

823
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: just have the caesar salad.

824
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: No dressing, that's fine, a throwaway comment.

825
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: There was like a performance to it to try to

826
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: convince people that I would have ordered the spaghetti or

827
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: the hamburger, but like I'll.

828
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: Just do Caesar salad dressing on the side.

829
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: I'll just have some of your triggering. Wow.

830
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: That is sar wow.

831
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: No, it's very honest, and most people with eating disorders

832
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: don't want to give it up because then they can't

833
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: go back to it because everybody knows, like once you

834
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: say it, you're saying it.

835
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: Now.

836
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: If you ever have a little of that behavior, it's

837
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: so exposed.

838
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: But also like I mean, maybe it's just because I've

839
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: gone through it, Like when I see someone doing it,

840
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: I now I'm embarrassed because I'm like, I can't believe

841
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: I thought I was pulling that off. Like I can't

842
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 3: believe I thought that people were so dumb.

843
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's a lot of people, you.

844
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Can kind of get away with it, Like you know

845
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: I would because my mom, I always watched her if

846
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: she got vegetables like sauteed vegetables, if she couldn't get

847
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: them steamed, she would pat it with a napkin to

848
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: get all the oil off, which we now know like

849
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: and then as an adult, I would kind of like

850
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: accidentally drop well, when I was twenty four twenty five,

851
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: I would accidentally drop my napkin on like a greasy's

852
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: vegetables and be like, oh yeah, like shit like that,

853
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: like shit like that, so that I didn't look, you know,

854
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't eat fat, you know.

855
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: But I'm also I'm in LA.

856
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: Everyone does shit like that, but I'm still doing this

857
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 3: rigormarole performance to try and eat in front of people.

858
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: I would sit in my car and pretend I was

859
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: running late or whatever.

860
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd probably already eat in like twelve protein bars,

861
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: you know kind of thing. They're like, I'm sorry, I'm late.

862
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: It's fine. I'll just get like a side of something,

863
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: you know, in and out.

864
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: Wow. And what about now? Though, how's your relationship to this?

865
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: Pregnant is another layer.

866
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: Pregnant's been like, it's amazingly healing because your body's like,

867
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: this is where you're eating today, And I'm not just

868
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: eating for an inner child that's metaphor, it's an actual

869
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: inner child. So again, the twelve step program of ACA

870
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: really helped me with my eating stuff. I started eating

871
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: to live and living to eat all that inner child work,

872
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: you know. I just the dysmorphia really lifted around then,

873
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 3: especially when I started working a lot and going like, oh,

874
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: I started loving something more than hating myself, which was

875
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: stand up and performing and touring. And I just I realized,

876
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: I have all these big goals.

877
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 2: I can't possibly accomplish them if I'm always distracted by food.

878
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm hungry. I'm in a catatonic shit ugur coma. I

879
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: met go to the gym three times a day, going

880
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: for walks four times a day, counting calor. I just

881
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: was like, I something shifted.

882
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: How old were you? Because something usually shifts. You remember

883
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: a one weird thing that happened.

884
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: Around twenty six.

885
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: I went into ACA and that's where I started really helping,

886
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: and I got a stand up special and I was like,

887
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: I am not going to screw this up because I'm

888
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: thinking about food. I am not going to I am

889
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: not going to screw this up because I've drank five

890
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: diet sun kiss today and not had any protein.

891
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: This is it? Like this is it? You know?

892
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: And also like I was like, all of a sudden,

893
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: you're in hair and makeup and stuff like that, and

894
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: I was like going bald.

895
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: I was like my hair was falling out.

896
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I had disordered relationship to food. I never

897
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: threw threw up. I can't stand throwing up. I never

898
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: I used to binge when I would go out and

899
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: I would drink a lot, and I'd come home and

900
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: binge and then I'd go on some sort of juice

901
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: cleanser fast for the next couple of days. But in

902
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: my late thirties, I remember I was going to Italy,

903
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: and every time I had ever gone away to a

904
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: trip like that, I'd always like gotten the anpti pasta

905
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: or all the vegetables. Those were legal, even if they

906
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: were in ten pounds of oil. Like for me, those

907
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: were legal. Like you talk about your stuff, and I

908
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: would never touch the pasta or the payea, and then

909
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: I would binge on it and get swollen and like

910
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: it was just like a bad ride. And I vowed

911
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: that I was going to Italy and I was going

912
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: to have everything. And that was when it became like

913
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: small full fat cappuccino, not torturing someone because they don't

914
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: have skim milk, or like small gelato, and like that's

915
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: how the book Naturally Thin came to be, because it

916
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: became like your quote unquote diet, which is the worst word,

917
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: is a bank account, like you just if you have

918
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: a little of this, don't have that. If you're having wine,

919
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: don't have bread. If you're having bread, don't have dessert.

920
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: And it became like have a small pasta and it

921
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: became so balanced and it changed my life. It just

922
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: sort of evolved, and it wasn't noisy, so it wasn't

923
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: ever a disorder. Really it would be moments of binging

924
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: and moments of discomfort, but it did run my life

925
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: like you were saying, it was noisy. But then one day,

926
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: just like listed because of being just a normal human being, and.

927
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: You're making me realize, like how I did this movie

928
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: where that was in England, the one that I was

929
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 2: on with Busy Phillips. It was called nat of Honor.

930
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: And I didn't have all my control foods. I couldn't

931
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: go to Pink Dot on Sunset and get my Alberto

932
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: Turkey jerky.

933
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't, you know.

934
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: And it was this Aquen movies had these big budgets.

935
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 3: It was this big romantic comedy. Patrick Dumpsy was huge

936
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 3: at the time.

937
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: And I really wanted to be friends with Busy Phillips

938
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: and she wanted to go to Whole.

939
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: Foods and get a thing, and I wanted to get

940
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: exactly what she was getting so that she, you know,

941
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: would think I was cool or whatever. And I just

942
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: to fit in on that set and to not look crazy.

943
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: And also because I wasn't able to get the swissness

944
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: cocoa bullshit nonsense that I was getting here. I was

945
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: eating you know it with some bread with hummus, and

946
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 3: then I was I was eating I don't want to

947
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: say normal, but I was eating.

948
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: I would go to Whole.

949
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: Foods and we'd get the kale and eggs and egg salad.

950
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Were a normal person.

951
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: I actually started losing weight. I was like, wait a second.

952
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: All these things that I because I would drink like

953
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: three ice blendid the day, I'd have like, you know,

954
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: these smoothies.

955
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: I'd have like Hershey chocolate shirt.

956
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: Like I was eating high sugar and like I wasn't

957
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: even good at being antrexit because it was like very hot.

958
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: I was eating these protein bars. It was like tiger

959
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: milk bars, like those are basically Snickers.

960
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: Now, you know.

961
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: I did the same thing at the Big Chill and West.

962
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: I used to go get the large chill also and

963
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: a container of brown rice from the Chinese place, and

964
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: I'd eat the whole big container and a giant yogurt

965
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: like versus just having a small something normal now like

966
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: ice cream, It's.

967
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: Okay, exactly, just have like a chicken sandwich and it's

968
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: gonna actually be less, less.

969
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Calories and less sugar. So so because remember back in

970
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: the day, remember like snack.

971
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: Wells, like all all that shit. You know, it was

972
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: like low fat, high fat, low sugar is actually you know,

973
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: way better. So I stopped eating so much trash process free.

974
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: You know, I was anista. Yep, I was interacting, probably

975
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: eating four thousand calories a day.

976
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: I think it wassistent, it was, I really really get it. Wow. Okay,

977
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: So more importantly is you put on lotion in the

978
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: middle of the night when you go to pee. Have

979
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: you you what's the wiping and the lotion? You're putting

980
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: your hands on your face. You just sat down to pee.

981
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: You haven't yet wiped.

982
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh you know what's weird? I don't.

983
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I never even thought about so no I do.

984
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: In the middle of the night, I reapplied grape seed

985
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: oil to my face because I mean you probably sleep

986
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: with a silk pillowcase.

987
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't.

988
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: Oh really, the.

989
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: Silk pillowcase really helps because what happens is, I mean

990
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: I've just found you know that you get all these

991
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: amazing products, and you know, I do the Derma rolling,

992
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: which is like the roller that puts like the tiny

993
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: micro needling.

994
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: In your face, and then I'll put the product.

995
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: Then I'll put the product on, and then I you

996
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: lay down and then you put your face on your

997
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 3: cotton pillow and it just absorbs all of your product

998
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 3: and all the leaches, all the oils in your face

999
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: and then for eight hours you're just lying there. So

1000
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: I grew up half like on a farm, and I

1001
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: just treat my skin the way that we used to

1002
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: treat saddles, which is you never leave them wet ever

1003
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 3: ever ever, you never let them out in the sun,

1004
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: and you oil them every day like the.

1005
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: Way because our faith is basically leather, you know, So

1006
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: to me.

1007
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: I never your face feeder.

1008
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta.

1009
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: It's like, this is what OCD OCD really works for you.

1010
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: So when I get up in the middle of the night,

1011
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: you know, I've got my grape seed oil and I

1012
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: sit on the toilet, put on the grape seed oil

1013
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: and then white.

1014
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: So I guess it is technically somewhat hygienic.

1015
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: I have my grape seed oil pump right by my

1016
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: toilet in my.

1017
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: Bedroom, So for me, there are many roads to roam.

1018
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: And the micro needling thing. I never really trust that

1019
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: I can do it right and I don't want to

1020
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: overdo it. And people say you can break capillaries. For me,

1021
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: that's just like a good exfoliation. So then the products absorb.

1022
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can do that, so I do. It's

1023
00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: just the roller.

1024
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: But is that is that a fancy one? Oh it's not,

1025
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: you said micro needle.

1026
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, derma roll. It's little tread.

1027
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 3: It's got these tiny micro needles in them. But it's

1028
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: not like going to a facialist and doing I don't

1029
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: get facials.

1030
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: I don't go to petrol They I get bored and

1031
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: they I always break out after.

1032
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't understand what a creepy vintage holy water

1033
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: bottle is that you that you collect?

1034
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: I just love.

1035
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to make you walk again. But this

1036
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: is the baby is gonna come. If you give birth

1037
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: on the baby, do you know how big the downloads

1038
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: will be?

1039
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: I mean, let's start crowning. I like vintage apocket theory, bottles.

1040
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: This is, says mammary Substance. I guess I just want

1041
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: or in it. I just I just I like them.

1042
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1043
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I come from descend from witches. I mean, do

1044
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: you what do you collect?

1045
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Do you have any I collect watches, I collect, okay,

1046
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: back certain bags, and I'm trying to think of what else.

1047
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: I'm not there yet. Is there anything just odd that

1048
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: you collect? Anything like, It's gonna come to me chocho.

1049
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: I do like I don't collect them, but I like

1050
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: snow globes. I have a decent I like certain snow globes.

1051
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: We have to be very very nice ones. But I'm

1052
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to think. I do like things I don't like.

1053
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: You have like the New York on Madison Avenue snow

1054
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: globe kind of thing.

1055
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: I like.

1056
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: I just think it's something that you can take a

1057
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: memory with you and if you don't buy the really

1058
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: cheapo ones. But sometimes the cheapo ones are fun too.

1059
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: It is a good memory. And I put them in

1060
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: different places throughout the house so it doesn't feel like

1061
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm hoarding them, but so I make them sort of decorative. Also,

1062
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: I do like snow globes. I always have it, and

1063
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: it's more in now like it came back. But I

1064
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: have always liked it.

1065
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: I like chotchkes, and I don't have them in my

1066
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: house is very austere for the most part, but in here.

1067
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: So I did find these holy water bottles on Etsy,

1068
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: like I love like flea markets, and so I did

1069
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: collect these like holy water bottles that were really beautiful.

1070
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: And I think it got online yet because I gave

1071
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: it to Kesha.

1072
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: She and oh wow, okay, well that's good.

1073
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: She needed it.

1074
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: And you carry a hammer in the car in case

1075
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: you ever see a dog or baby hopefully trapped in

1076
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: a car. You mentioned a dog, but let's add baby.

1077
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: Let's add baby.

1078
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever used it? Says it ever happened?

1079
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: I have?

1080
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: I have, and it was very, very embarrassing. Well one time, okay,

1081
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: so I've had to do in grocery stores a couple

1082
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: of times.

1083
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: You can't do it in grocery stores. You need to

1084
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: sorry in.

1085
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: The in the parking lot of a grocery store.

1086
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: Usually you can.

1087
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: Go in and do, hey, can you make an announcement

1088
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 3: and say, whoever has the blue Toyota Corolla.

1089
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: You need to come out here and get your dog.

1090
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: Like usually in LA you can you know do that first,

1091
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: but a law has been passed now that it is illegal,

1092
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: so now I can just you know do it. One

1093
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: time I did it outside of these twelve step meetings,

1094
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: and I smashed this window to get the dog out,

1095
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: and it's like a it's like a hammer, but it

1096
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: also has like a glass cutter on the side as well.

1097
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: It's worth it the woman have in their car anyway,

1098
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: And I stormed into one of the meetings and was.

1099
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: Like, whose car is this? Whose dog is this that.

1100
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm like screaming, And it was the meeting for people

1101
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: I swear to God covering from parents with anger mansion,

1102
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: and it was like it was like an AA meeting

1103
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: is like where.

1104
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: The person actually was. I just saw these people just

1105
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: like horrified, and I'm.

1106
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: Like, oh, working on this right now. I'm glad you asked,

1107
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: because we're working on this passion. This is a planned simulation.

1108
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: Do you want to see how you reacted as crazy actions?

1109
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: It like couldn't have been worse.

1110
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: And I never lose my temper like that, only around

1111
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: like when it involves children or animals, Like all bets

1112
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: are off, like I do not care if you think

1113
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm an asshole. I never lose my temper around shit

1114
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: like that. I was like, I was like doing a helicopter.

1115
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: With a hammer. I'm like, who's got the yorkey in

1116
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: the page Cruiser? But did they? Do?

1117
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: They have the windows closed?

1118
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: Yes? Why?

1119
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: Like, explain to me why, Like, is someone allowed to

1120
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: have theirs if it's sixty five degrees outside? Is someone

1121
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: allowed to have their dog in the car if the

1122
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: windows open? Is that allowed? Would you small?

1123
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Speaker 2: Like?

1124
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: What what's the what's the actual rule? Are there no

1125
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: dogs allowed to be in any cars?

1126
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: No matter what?

1127
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: Windows open? Are closed?

1128
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Speaker 2: The window up in California? Is I believe pretty? I mean,

1129
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: because it's always hot here.

1130
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: And even if why would someone keep the windows up?

1131
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: I don't even understand. Just crack the window if you'll,

1132
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: let's say, desperate and you don't have pet care and

1133
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: you have to go in to get a prescription and

1134
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: you're an emergency, Like, why wouldn't someone just crack the

1135
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: window if it's like seventy five degrees? Okay, so only fans.

1136
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1137
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1138
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Speaker 1: I was talking to Denise Richards about her being on

1139
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Speaker 1: it and her daughter being on it, and she was

1140
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: kind of saying, you could do anything on there. You

1141
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: don't have to be not wearing clothes, and she said

1142
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: you could be cooking. And I was like, oh, I

1143
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: could do my cottage cheese potato bagel program on there.

1144
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: She's like sure, and she's like, they probably probably prefer

1145
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: that you were like wearing laingerie. So what goes on

1146
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 1: on Only Fans? And then you were on OnlyFans TV

1147
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: and it was massive for you.

1148
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I am doing the first stand up special for

1149
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 3: OnlyFans TV.

1150
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: Earlier in the year, I don't know.

1151
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure you remember the roasts that were on Comedy Central,

1152
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: and you know, you know Joan Rivers and Johnald Trump,

1153
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: and you know, people started getting really scared of doing

1154
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: roast and I was like, you know what, I'm going

1155
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: to bring these back. Okay, let's just like elevate and

1156
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: be more clever and not make this bottom of the

1157
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: barrel trash roast the way it used to all be

1158
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: about women's appearances and men's dicks.

1159
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: And you know, there's actually I've been saying about reality television,

1160
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: I've been saying you should explore and not exploit. And

1161
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: it's not because I'm like killing the party. It's because

1162
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like all this bullshit of just trashing women.

1163
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: Trashing women is not creative. You can have a good

1164
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 1: conflict without you know, throwing your leg on the dance floor.

1165
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 3: It's just on original. It's like we've seen it. Like now,

1166
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: it's like let's pivot, let's elevate, you know. It's like,

1167
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: you know, so I'm not saying don't talk about dix

1168
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: or vagina, just make it original.

1169
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: We've we've heard all this already, you know, Like I mean,

1170
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: and with Twitter and with you know, Instagram, we all

1171
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: as comedians have to.

1172
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: Level up and be more clever because I mean, I

1173
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: see these memes online that everyone's sharing that are hilarious,

1174
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: and I'm like, a comedian didn't make that. There's a

1175
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: lot of funny people out there, you know, like it's

1176
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: not just us, like we need to make funnier than

1177
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: all of this, you know. So we did want a

1178
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: roast of me and then a roast of berg Kreischer.

1179
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: We put them on OnlyFans TV. It's just of dot

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Speaker 3: TV totally free. You don't have to put in a password.

1181
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: You don't have to you know, get charged four ninety

1182
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: nine and then have some weird subscription on your credit

1183
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 2: card for the rest of your life that you can't

1184
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: get rid of. You know, all of TV is doing

1185
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: some really interesting stuff and completely uncensored. So I wouldn't

1186
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: been able to do that at Netflix. I wouldn't have

1187
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 2: been able to do that at Hulu. Hulu's now owned

1188
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: by Disney like, so you had paid?

1189
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: Was it because only fans wanted to start? So you

1190
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: get paid. It's great for only fans, and it's a

1191
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: great and it's a content to the people model, which

1192
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: is my entire life now. Yeah, and everybody thinks, for

1193
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: some reason I would want to be on traditional television.

1194
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't.

1195
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: I Well, then you can't. If you're going to be

1196
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: on traditional television these days, you can't make fun of

1197
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: the vaccine, you can't say certain things. I mean, YouTube

1198
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: now will age restrict certain things. I had this huge

1199
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Speaker 2: porn star on my podcast and it got age restricted.

1200
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: It got to monetize it.

1201
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 3: If you we have to bleep our podcast on YouTube

1202
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: now for the first half hour, or you basically, don't

1203
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: get an algorithm.

1204
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 1: I've literally been pitched so many shows in the last

1205
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: year or so, and there was I was going to

1206
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: do a show on Bravo that I backed out of

1207
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: because what I didn't want to do. Let's talk to

1208
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: the suits around the table. Let's get their watered down

1209
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: ideas that the suits think that they what they know,

1210
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: what's everyone's going to want to watch. Let's then wait

1211
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: six months to shoot it, then six months to edit it.

1212
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,479
Speaker 1: Now all the store, all the day, all.

1213
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: The jokes are stale, and that funny Ukraine joke is

1214
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: now hacky, and you look like you're not as funny

1215
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: as you are, and like it's not topical. And here's

1216
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 2: the thing. All these suits, all these executives, like look,

1217
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: they go into these rooms and go, oh, let's look

1218
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: at Bethany's new show.

1219
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: They think they have to talk as their job. Like

1220
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: no one is able to go like I loved it.

1221
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 3: Should we adjourn the meeting? Let's error everyone because they're

1222
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: like jobs, I have to go.

1223
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if I get that joke? Is she like?

1224
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: They have to overthink it as their job. They're getting

1225
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 3: paid four hundred thousand dollars a year. They think they

1226
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: have to do it to justify their existence. I remember

1227
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: one time I was doing a notes call with a

1228
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: studio and they schedule for a TV show. They schedule

1229
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 3: the notes call to be an hour, and I'm like,

1230
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: you guys don't even know how many notes. You haven't

1231
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: read the script yet, and you already have the notes

1232
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: called being an hour.

1233
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: You just have to fill this hour. Your job is

1234
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: to just fill this hour, to overthink.

1235
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: Things and you really analyze data versus going as a

1236
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,479
Speaker 1: gut like really, no one.

1237
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: Gets promoted off of going like love it, let's air it,

1238
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: love it. They're like what you know?

1239
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 3: So it's it's their job to be critical and overthink

1240
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: things and create problems that aren't really there.

1241
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: Get it out. Let the audience decide you're not the

1242
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: target audience. You know. That's why I love focus groups.

1243
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 2: I say, give it to a focus group.

1244
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: I rather yeah, one hundred percent. Well, you have focus

1245
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: groups on social media also. People tell you they hate you,

1246
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: people tell you they love it. You could figure it out.

1247
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: So what's your model? Now you've done seven Netflix specials,

1248
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: what's your model? What's your relationship to doing Netflix specials?

1249
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: To going out on the road like you're pregnant, you're

1250
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: having a baby, Like, what's what's the whole soup look like?

1251
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: Now? I guess my big thing right now?

1252
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 3: You know, it's like I really just want to make

1253
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 3: sure that I'm doing specials in a lot of different

1254
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: places because you know, it's like I did these Comedy

1255
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: Central specials.

1256
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: I did, you know HBO specials. There's all these different

1257
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: people networks that ever. You know, now my HBO specials

1258
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: are on Paramount plus my Commedy Central specials, I don't

1259
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: even know where those are. So I think I'm at

1260
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: the point where I'm kind of want to own my

1261
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: own content so that when that works come and go,

1262
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: at least I'm able to have it. And okay, let's

1263
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: put it on Amazon now all right, let me take

1264
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 2: it back, and now I'll put it on Showtime. Okay,

1265
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: that's it. Now, I'll put it on YouTube, like yes, however,

1266
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: we actually get it to our audiences. And also it's

1267
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: important to me that it's free, you know, like comedy

1268
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: is different than a lot of other things. It's like

1269
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: because you might not like it, comedy's fashion. You know.

1270
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: I also need, we need to be able to cut

1271
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: it up so that people can consume it on TikTok

1272
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: or rumble or.

1273
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: You need the wing, you need the broth, you need

1274
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: to make a bunch of different things out of the

1275
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: same thing.

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00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, it's gonna be a different platform

1277
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: in two years.

1278
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 3: Like that's the thing about OnlyFans TV is like I

1279
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: remember remember when Netflix first came out and they were like,

1280
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Speaker 3: will you.

1281
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: Do a special with us? And I was like, is

1282
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: this the place that throws DVDs and envelopes at your door?

1283
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: Like what I've always been a little bit.

1284
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 3: When Twitter came out, I was like, ugh, I'm not

1285
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 3: going to take pictures of my smoothies like I've always

1286
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: been a little bit, Like I'm a comic. It's embarrassing

1287
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: to promote yourself. I'm going to go with the established.

1288
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: But when you do that, you're just gonna be behind.

1289
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: So when they're like, oh FTV, I'm like, that's the

1290
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: next thing. Let me just jump on it, even if

1291
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 3: people make fun of me, even if people don't get.

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Speaker 2: It and they think it's a poor and site, like

1293
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Speaker 2: I'd rather be and this is what I learned in

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Speaker 2: real estate. I'd rather be the person everyone's like, oh,

1295
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: why are you moving there? And then I have the

1296
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 2: last laugh later.

1297
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Speaker 1: But it's much easier. What you didn't realize I'm in

1298
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: the same place as you. You didn't realize is it's

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Speaker 1: much easier. I used to call up any komb like

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Speaker 1: get the cameras because something is like I got my

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Speaker 1: own cameras, Like get you all. I see behind you

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Speaker 1: there are two cameras in there. It doesn't even have

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Speaker 1: you could be performing at some shit club and have

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Speaker 1: some uncommon shoot it and ask them can I have

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Speaker 1: this content and it's yours. I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 3: That that's what people don't know. I mean, I remember

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00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: when I was doing you know, Two Burke Girls. You know,

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00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: people would come up to me and I'm not trying to,

1310
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: you know, self agrandize, but I'm just trying to make

1311
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 3: this point is they would come up to me and

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00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 3: with tears in their eyes, and they'd be like, two

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Speaker 3: work Girls change my life, and I change. I quit

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00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: my horrible job and I started my own business because

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00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: of you and because of watching Two Burke Girls. I've

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Speaker 3: seen every episode backwards and forwards, and then My question.

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00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: Was always what network is it on? And they'd be like, right, ah,

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00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 2: no one knows.

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Speaker 3: They google Bethany Frankel new TV show Bethany and whatever

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Speaker 3: comes up.

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Speaker 2: It's content to people, it's to be it's tree B,

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00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: it's wee B, it's wha, it's Hulu, it's haha.

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Speaker 3: Like it's always you know, Sisop came and went, TBS

1324
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: came and went. So for me, the last Netflix special

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00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: I did, I paid for myself and then licensed to

1326
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Speaker 3: them this one.

1327
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Speaker 2: You know, licensing stuff.

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00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 3: I think, you know it's gonna cost it's gonna cost

1329
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 3: you more in the short term, but then you're actually like,

1330
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean, there's starting to get too granular here. But

1331
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: like there's huge comics like Sebastian, Joe Cooy, Gabriel and Glacias.

1332
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: These comics that are selling out fifty thousand seed arenas.

1333
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: These are some of the.

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00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 3: Ones that Comedy Central didn't give specials to in the beginning,

1335
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: and they went, oh, I got to shoot my own special.

1336
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: I got it out of pocket, spend twenty grand and

1337
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 3: shoot it myself. But they're having the last laugh because

1338
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 3: they were able to put it on serious.

1339
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: And raw Dog and Spotify and they actually owned their content.

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Speaker 1: Just a Sebastian Mescalco for my birthday in Atlantic City.

1341
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 2: The best, the best, the best.

1342
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 1: He is really because he's got the physical comedy angle.

1343
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: It's like the modern dice. Clay got that, but he

1344
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: really exaggerates the gestures and it really lands. And I

1345
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: thought he was great. He was great.

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: I also love that Sebastian. I have a lot to

1347
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: learn from him.

1348
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: And sorry to sorry to keep going, but now now

1349
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: I also really want to like elevate I think that

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: as a woman in comedy. Sorry to bring gender into it,

1351
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: I still believe in gender. Sorry guys, but uh, I

1352
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: think I'm ready to not.

1353
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: Have to lean on the like, oh look at me

1354
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: and my sneakers and hoodie and like I'm you know, a.

1355
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: Little comedy girl. You mean like that kind of thing.

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00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of like I think that, like self deprecation.

1357
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: I had to do that for a long time in

1358
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: order to, you know, feel like I wasn't you know,

1359
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, I don't have to tell you like you

1360
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: are way more fearless than me around this kind of stuff.

1361
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: But I think that on a woman, like oh, you're

1362
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: so ambitious. I've heard that a lot.

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00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 3: You're you're so Hollywood, like you're very networky, like if

1364
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: you have success or try I'm like, yeah, I'm a

1365
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: try hard I don't know what to tell you.

1366
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: I try really hard. I want to succeed.

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: And I look at Sebastian and I'm like, this next

1368
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: phase is my sequin Blazer phase.

1369
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: It's my be dazzled headband phase. Like I'm gonna like.

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing whatever the fuck I want phase.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I can be funny and unapologetic and like

1372
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Speaker 3: feminine and I feel like a bumpet is in my future.

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 3: I feel like like I can be more glad. I

1374
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: want to move towards being a little more glamorous. I

1375
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: don't have I don't have this narrative anymore that like

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00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: women won't like me if I try hard or something.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: When I was so growing up, I've always been into comedy.

1379
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: I remember I was a little kid when I was

1380
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: watching Delirious and Raw and George Carland. I've always been

1381
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: obsessed with SNL. My one dream in my life is

1382
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: to host SNL. It's the only dream that's unrealized. And

1383
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: I had an internship at NYU that I was given SNL,

1384
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: but m Y, you wouldn't give me the credit. So

1385
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: SNL wouldn't let me do it because at NY you

1386
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't give me the credit. And I just stopped then.

1387
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: And I was so his years later because knowing who

1388
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: I am now, I would never have allowed that. I

1389
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: would have pushed through. So I've always been like comedy

1390
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: adjacent roast. I was on the whatever you call the

1391
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: Dais and I roasted Betty White at her like ninetieth

1392
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: birthday at the Friarschore. So I've always dabbled. I did

1393
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: stand up comedy one night and called all the comedians

1394
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: that I know.

1395
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: One of my entertainment heroes was Dennis Robin. I know

1396
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: that's random, but I remember watching him and going, he's

1397
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: a I was very serious basketball player, and it was

1398
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: like he's defense. This guy is putting on a show.

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Speaker 2: He is die. People are spending eighty dollars to go

1400
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: see a game. Most people do not. They're getting a babysitter,

1401
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: they're paying god knows what for parking in an NBA game,

1402
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: and this guy is giving them a show. He's not

1403
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: too cool for school. He's like, I'm gonna blue hair.

1404
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna red hair, I'm gonna wear a wedding dress

1405
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: like and for me, I think a lot of comics

1406
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 3: are like, I'm just gonna lean against a wall and

1407
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: wear my brown hoodie and I'm barely here, and.

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00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: I like to be unapologetically. I am putting on a

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00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: show for you. I want to entertain you. I want

1410
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: to give you the best night of your life.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: I love that.

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01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: I know it's so sure you have your opportunity up

1414
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: on stage, so go all in. That is absolutely true.

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01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: It's funny because I never knew really who Travis Kelsey was,

1416
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: but watching a lot of his footage of him dancing

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: on the field, like people want to see that.

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01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: Great. And also, no one's mad at you if you

1419
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: shine too bright, And if they are, that's their problem.

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01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: That's me and my mom.

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01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: Shit, I think my mom was kind of like weirdly

1422
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 3: jealous of her kids, or like competitive, or maybe the

1423
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 3: scarcity complex. If I wanted female comics to like me

1424
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,479
Speaker 3: and not think that I who knows, who gives a shit?

1425
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: That's good too, Yeah, because other comments you don't like,

1426
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: what the hell is she doing?

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01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't know? Yeah, why is she wearing bee? Dazzled.

1428
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: I get these, Betsy Johnson.

1429
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: I have a collection of be dazzled boots in every color,

1430
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: and I'm like, there's no more apologetic.

1431
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: Who me like in front of ten thousand people.

1432
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: Let's just like, all, if you want to wear that

1433
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: crazy thing, wear that crazy let's all just go start

1434
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: wearing capes like Own Rivers did and feather BoA's the

1435
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: way Philas Diller did. Who cares like We're dying.

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01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: Well, I feel not fraudulent, but I've always wanted to

1437
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: do stand up and I did do it the one time,

1438
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: three minutes at the night. You call out to you,

1439
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: and I feel when you say, like, oh, you go

1440
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: get it, you go do it. I guess I feel

1441
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: fraudulent in the sense that I have never really didn't

1442
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: really go down that road because I went to the groundings,

1443
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: I took classes at Second City, Like I've always flirted

1444
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: with it. But I think my cop out is that

1445
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: when I do speaking engagements or appearances or on my podcast,

1446
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: I get to insert it. But it is different. Like

1447
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: I watch David Spain on TikTok. It's the funniest thing

1448
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: you've ever seen because he's doing different stand up jokes

1449
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 1: all day giving him away for free, and I feel

1450
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: like but he still goes on the road and really

1451
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: exercises the muscle, so I give you a lot of credit.

1452
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: Also, I'm very jealous because you and Denise Richards did

1453
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: a part two. I'm sorry I have to do another thing,

1454
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 3: but let's do it if you ever, but if you

1455
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 3: ever want to. I love talking to you and I

1456
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: want you to come up my kit if you will.

1457
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: I want to to do. We do have to get

1458
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: into our feud about the Hamptons.

1459
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you talked about it on Kelly and Mark.

1460
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: All right, go have a baby. So nice to talk

1461
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: to you. It was really amazing and I'm so grateful

1462
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: and it was more than I thought it was going

1463
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: to be, which I thought a lot. So yay, I

1464
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: love you.

1465
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna text you you have a good day.

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01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Bye.

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01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: Well that was we couldn't launch. We couldn't like launch

1468
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: the rocket or the plane couldn't take off because I

1469
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: had so much to say before even starting to talk,

1470
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: which is what was amazing. The foreplay was as good

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01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: as the main act. She's awesome. Wow was that?

1472
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean?

1473
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: I think that was my favorite and a long time.

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01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: And that's the only person that I could really say

1475
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: that I've had on that would be amazing on a

1476
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: podcast with me like that was beyond And as a

1477
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: matter of fact, because I'm still a scaredy cat, maybe

1478
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: on her show, I'll do ten minutes with her, like

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01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: just sitting fucking riff for ten minutes with her.