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Speaker 1: of lying accusation. So Michael Coon's the only one. The

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Speaker 1: problem with all of this is this whole Russia collusion.

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Speaker 1: Where's the collusion? Mana fort Own Applications, Manaport didn't pay taxes,

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Speaker 1: man had Ukrainian contacts, and he did business like I believe.

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Speaker 1: I read Tony Podesta John's brothers. So what you know,

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Speaker 1: let what's so stunning to me in this is we

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Speaker 1: actually have real crimes, real collusion, and nobody cares. Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton and her private server in a mom and pop

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Speaker 1: shop bathroom closet. Full investigation taken out of the field,

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Speaker 1: offices of the rank and file, the good guys that

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Speaker 1: work hard every day in the FBI given taken over

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Speaker 1: by Komey and his buddy Struck and Page and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: They're writing an exoneration letter in May that actually says

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Speaker 1: gross negligence, which gets turned into extremely extreme carelessness. And

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Speaker 1: then they write the exon ration early May. Interview her

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Speaker 1: fourth of July weekend, July fifth, she's exonerated. Then they

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Speaker 1: begin right there, well, let's go after Trump Rod and

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Speaker 1: it's led by Peter Struck. People forget Peter Struck and

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Speaker 1: Lisa Page. Also, we're working with the pit bull Weissman

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Speaker 1: and mon Mueller's team, and he quietly let them go

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Speaker 1: because he knew there would be a problem at some point.

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Speaker 1: See have Hillary Clinton. You know, I guess she has

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Speaker 1: you know, her own fixer closer if you will, and

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Speaker 1: that would be Christopher Steele. So she pays for the

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Speaker 1: money to go to Perkins Cooee along with the money

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Speaker 1: she's controlling with the DNC goes to Perkins Cooee a

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Speaker 1: law firm legal expense, but then it gets funneled to

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Speaker 1: a research firm Fusion GPS Nelly or works there. Interestingly,

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Speaker 1: then they hired Christopher Steele. Christopher Steele puts together a

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Speaker 1: series of papers that to become known as the dossier.

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Speaker 1: The dossier then becomes the basis of you know, Trump

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Speaker 1: and hookers in Russia urinating on a bed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how is this not applicable if we're looking she bought

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Speaker 1: Russian lies, those lies were used and leaked purposefully. How

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Speaker 1: many people didn't vote for Trump because he thought there

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Speaker 1: were hookers in his room in Moscow and the ritz

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Speaker 1: and the hookers were peeing in his bed. That was

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Speaker 1: out there. Now they'll ignore uranium one, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that was under Muller's watch. If I recall, we knew

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Speaker 1: putin At agents in the US and they were involved

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Speaker 1: in bribery, extortion, money laundering, and kickbacks. Because they wanted

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Speaker 1: to get a foothold in the uranium industry that the

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Speaker 1: foundational material for nuclear weapons. Guess what, they never stopped it,

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Speaker 1: and it happened, and tons of money got kicked back

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Speaker 1: to the Clinton Foundation. Devin Newness warned in twenty fourteen

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Speaker 1: about the Russians wanting to create chaos in our elections,

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Speaker 1: even way ahead of the curb. So then that phony

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Speaker 1: dossier that she bought with Russian lies, then it gets

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Speaker 1: used not only to lie to the American people before

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Speaker 1: the election, it gets used to get not one but

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Speaker 1: it's used in four FISA applications to get a warrant

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Speaker 1: to spy on a Trump campaign associate, Carter Page. But

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Speaker 1: they never verified the Russian lie she paid for. They

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Speaker 1: never corroborated the Russian lie she paid for, which they

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Speaker 1: should have. They never told the FISA court judges as

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Speaker 1: they should have, that it was a political document. And

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Speaker 1: then later on we find out that the author, Christopher Steele,

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Speaker 1: who has a direct line to Bruce Or and he's

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Speaker 1: sending messages to special counsel of Muller. This is after

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Speaker 1: he had testified he doesn't know if any of this

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Speaker 1: is true. Under the threat of perjury and an interrogatory

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Speaker 1: in Great Britain. How is this not important because it's

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Speaker 1: just like the sexual assault claims, So only if it's

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Speaker 1: a Republican in this case, it's only if it's Trump.

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Speaker 1: I've been warning everybody about Muller. I've been looking at

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Speaker 1: his team. I told you who they are. I describe

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Speaker 1: it often all Democrats. You know, Andrew Weisman loved Sally

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Speaker 1: Yates after what she did that was at Hillary Clinton's

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Speaker 1: victory party at the Javits Center in New York. I've

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Speaker 1: warned you about this team. I've warned you that they have.

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Speaker 1: Now what they've got is, okay, Michael Cohen lied to Congress,

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Speaker 1: not all these other people that lied. Now you got Corsi,

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Speaker 1: who's going to join us in the next hour. They're

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Speaker 1: telling him what they want him to say, and we'll

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Speaker 1: give you a get out of jail free card. Gotta

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Speaker 1: people just tell us what we want. That's how desperate

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Speaker 1: they are. You know, who's going to choose a jail

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Speaker 1: cell rather than say yeah, whatever you want me to say.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have in this team Struck Paige Comy McCabe,

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Speaker 1: all of these or Bruce and Nellie twenty thirty people total,

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Speaker 1: you know, resigned, demoted, fired, abuse of power, and now

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Speaker 1: you've got Mueller and his team of obviously desperate for

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Speaker 1: neetick deals being made perjury trap set. This is not

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Speaker 1: equal justice under the law. It's not an equal application

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Speaker 1: as long as you hate the other person. A country

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Speaker 1: It's not justice, it's not right. This is not going

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Speaker 1: selective use of constitutional rights. That is what you ought

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Speaker 1: it is. It is the biggest, most spectacular double standard

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Speaker 1: the way voluntarily, you know, hand it over his computer,

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Speaker 1: every note. He had spend forty hours with the special counsel.

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Speaker 1: By the way. You know, this is what I keep saying.

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Speaker 1: You can't get people on the underlying crimes. You see

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Speaker 1: now this frenetic pace of Robert Muller. He's grasping, he's driving,

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Speaker 1: he's pushing, but none of it, you know, this whole

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Speaker 1: the truth before the Senate, but there's still nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: in anything. It doesn't even contradict what Donald Trump had said,

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Speaker 1: And you see this with you know, imagine this. You're

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Speaker 1: seventy two years old and they, the FEDS and a

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Speaker 1: special counsel, want you to say certain things, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you give them everything that they can ask for in

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Speaker 1: terms of documentation. Who remembers what they wrote in an

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Speaker 1: email two years ago? I don't remember what I texted

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Speaker 1: ten seconds ago. I mean, that's how ridiculous this gets.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't get it right, well then they're

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Speaker 1: gonna say, well, guilty perjury. Look at Michael Flynn. Look

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Speaker 1: at Papadopoulos. Look at what they're now trying to do

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Speaker 1: to Jerome Corsi, who's saying, no, I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 1: and say that I lied. Yeah, I got a couple

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Speaker 1: of things wrong. I didn't remember them, but that is

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Speaker 1: called the lie. Then you'll then they'll put you in jail.

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Speaker 1: And it looks like they tried to do the same

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Speaker 1: thing the Paul Manifol and Manta Fort. He's not lying

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Speaker 1: either because they basically will tell you the story that

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Speaker 1: to cut let me play this, and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: to Jerome Corsi here in a second. This is Komy

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Speaker 1: saying they lied, but they're good people. Oh okay, it's

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Speaker 1: you know. And then I give go back to the

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Speaker 1: list that I gave you earlier. People that we know,

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Speaker 1: James Clapper lied to Congress. John Brennan lied to Congress

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Speaker 1: or the Senate in that case, Loretta Lynch lied to congress.

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Speaker 1: James Komy lied to congress. Then we have people like

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Speaker 1: Eric Holder, remember that case. Yeah, Eric Holder repeatedly lied

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Speaker 1: to Congress. Lois Learner lied to Congress. Jack lu the

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Speaker 1: former Treasury secretary under Obama, Andrew McCabe lied to investigators

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Speaker 1: in Congress, Cheryl Mills, Clinton aide Uma Aberdeen, nothing happens

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Speaker 1: to any of them. You want Russia collusion, you got it.

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Speaker 1: Bought and paid for Russian lies all to luence the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, and they don't go near it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Listen to Kobe here. Do you think the future of

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Speaker 1: the FBI is transparency? I think it has to be

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Speaker 1: a huge part of the FBI because public confidence in

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Speaker 1: the FBI is its bedrock. We have to show people

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Speaker 1: our work when we can, as often as possible so

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Speaker 1: they have confidence in even if that means your second

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Speaker 1: in mc mca in command. McCabe was fired for lying

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Speaker 1: multiple times within the FBI. You defended his character on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: That's okay. Lying is okay internally, No, it's definitely not.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the McCabe case illustrates what an organization that's

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Speaker 1: committed to the truth looks like. We investigate and hold

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Speaker 1: I ordered that investigation. We investigate and hold people accountable.

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Speaker 1: Good people lie, I lay out on the book. I

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Speaker 1: believe Andrew mccab is a good person. But the Inspector

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Speaker 1: General found that he lied, and there's severe consequences in

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Speaker 1: the Justice Department for lying, as there should be throughout

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Speaker 1: the government. What all the sequences, we haven't seen them yet,

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Speaker 1: except that, oh, he's not in the job any longer. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Jerome Corsi is with us, and obviously he made a

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Speaker 1: conscious decision that he's that he is not going to

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Speaker 1: sign on to a plea agreement. Um, what I've read,

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Speaker 1: Jerome is that they even said that they wouldn't object

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Speaker 1: to just probation if you would sign on to the

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Speaker 1: quote eylied, you know, scheme that Muller had correct the

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Speaker 1: fact said there may not even be probation. I may

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Speaker 1: just going to have send no jail time, no probation.

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Speaker 1: And now, if you're seventy two years old, and you

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Speaker 1: know by making that decision, the easy decision would have

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Speaker 1: been to say, okay, if you guys promised probation at

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Speaker 1: the most, I'll sign what you want, right, that would

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Speaker 1: have been an easy decision. You go on with the

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Speaker 1: rest of your life, I guess, and maybe have to

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Speaker 1: testify against Roger Stone. Do you know what they were

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Speaker 1: Were they specifically looking for something that wasn't in your

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Speaker 1: emails that they wanted you to tell them where they

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Speaker 1: kind of coaching you what they wanted to hear. Oh. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: They were saying they wanted a link between Roger me

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Speaker 1: don't know him ever. Correct, All that is correct. I

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Speaker 1: know I've never had anything to do with Julian Osange.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and when you gave him them the same

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Speaker 1: answer again and again and there's no email trail. If

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Speaker 1: if everything and I have no reason to doubt you,

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Speaker 1: is true, then you know how did we get to

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Speaker 1: this point? Were you were you told they were going

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Speaker 1: to indict you. I'll go, yes, they said, next as

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Speaker 1: plead talks with your lawyer were were finished with you,

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Speaker 1: and they lectured me about how you know I can't

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Speaker 1: tell the truth, and I picked this fact and I

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Speaker 1: lie and may I got a whole series of lectures

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Speaker 1: yelled at they you know, they walk out of the room,

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Speaker 1: they do scowls, they start yawning. I mean, the bad

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Speaker 1: behavior went on and on, Sean, and they just would

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Speaker 1: not accept that. I figured it out myself, which is

648
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Speaker 1: connecting the dots. It's what I do professionally, it's my job.

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Speaker 1: You are not denying that when you handed over all

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Speaker 1: your computers and in the forty plus hours that you

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Speaker 1: were were testifying, Can you who were the specific people

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Speaker 1: that were interviewing you, interrogating you? Whatever praise you would

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Speaker 1: prefer to use, probably this was this inquisition. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this would use the most extreme term. You can't. The

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Speaker 1: three were Genie Ree, Oh Genie right? Wait wait, she's

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Speaker 1: the one that actually was a lawyer for the Clinton Foundation. Correct? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Oh that one? Okay, who else? And she and then

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Speaker 1: Aaron Zelinsky and he was a prosecutor under Rosenstein I

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Speaker 1: believe in Rochester or some city. I'm not sure where,

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Speaker 1: but under Rosenstein he was a US assisted US attorney.

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Speaker 1: And then the third one was Andrew Goldstein, who was

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Speaker 1: a head of the Corruption Division under Prep Bahara in

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Speaker 1: the Southern District of New York, and about between six

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Speaker 1: to nine different FBI agents. So it would be me

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Speaker 1: and my attorney, David Gray, and we'd be facing the

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Speaker 1: three prosecutors and all these FBI agents in a closed

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Speaker 1: in room some building unmarked for the FBI in southeast

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Speaker 1: Washington for hour after hour after hour of grilling. Now,

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Speaker 1: you do admit that in the course of this forty

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Speaker 1: hour period that you didn't remember things, and as a result,

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Speaker 1: they think you're lying. And you were quoted as saying

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Speaker 1: that I was amending my testimony a number of times

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Speaker 1: because you made mistakes. Okay, well that's correct, I did

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Speaker 1: that all the time. Okay, explain, explain how you didn't

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Speaker 1: remember and what charge your memory. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: what they do is they will ask you a question

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Speaker 1: and I give them explanation. They said, well, but but

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Speaker 1: what about this email? It contradicts what you said, So

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Speaker 1: why does you show me that first? So I could

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Speaker 1: you know? No, No, we don't want to. We don't

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Speaker 1: want to lead you to You got to remember it.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't remember it, just say you don't

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Speaker 1: remember it, So I said, I don't remember it. Say

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Speaker 1: it's impossible you don't remember this. So it was constantly

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Speaker 1: being sniped undercut because they had something in there. They

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Speaker 1: had this eight inch binder of all my materials, emails,

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Speaker 1: things I've written, who knows what else. They wouldn't show

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Speaker 1: it to me. And then the detail, what did this

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Speaker 1: person say to you on this day? So I'm not

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Speaker 1: a human tape recorder. You can't punch a button. And

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go back and tell you exactly what

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Speaker 1: the person said on a specific day two years ago.

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Speaker 1: And the point is, I guess because and a lot

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Speaker 1: of this comes up. Listen, Jerome, and I'm being very

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Speaker 1: blunt and honest. Here. I can give you Ronald Reagan's

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Speaker 1: success chapter and verse. I can give you Obama's failures

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Speaker 1: chapters and verse. I can talk about everything related Clinton

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Speaker 1: chapter and verse, and George Bush and all things that

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Speaker 1: we've been discussing. If you asked me who I had

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Speaker 1: on my show a week ago, I won't remember. I honestly,

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Speaker 1: who did I text this a week ago? I guess,

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Speaker 1: let me see it. I would not remember. That's not

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Speaker 1: how my brain works to be very blunt. And when

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Speaker 1: you would make these amendments, did they call you a liar?

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Speaker 1: I guess they did. I was a liar. And then

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Speaker 1: when they showed it to me, I said, well, let

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Speaker 1: me this is what I think. Said. Now you're reconstructing,

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Speaker 1: and now you're telling us a story, said doctor Corsey.

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Speaker 1: Were hired of your narratives. Don't make up another. Tell us.

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Speaker 1: How can I tell you what it is without trying

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Speaker 1: to explain it? They said, well, did you just invent that?

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Speaker 1: Or is it an invention? Is it a reconstruction? Is

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Speaker 1: an actual memory? I see you guys got me so confused.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where I am right now. August

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Speaker 1: twenty first, there was a tweet trust me, it will soon.

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Speaker 1: It will soon, The Podesta's Time in a barrel. Weeks later,

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Speaker 1: email stolen from Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta were

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Speaker 1: put out, if you had nothing to do with any coordination,

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Speaker 1: any conspiracy, any hacking, any I'm not seeing any underlying

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Speaker 1: crime here for you, except that you cooperated as best

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Speaker 1: you could. Did you have the option of saying no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking, yes, you could say that. Then they

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Speaker 1: put you in front of the grand jury they ask

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Speaker 1: you the same questions and you have to answer, and

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Speaker 1: now they've got you on transcript and it's much harder

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Speaker 1: to take that back if you do make the mistakes.

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Speaker 1: I knew it was going to making mistakes over and

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Speaker 1: over and over again. And I probably made a mistake

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Speaker 1: to think I was trying to be a good citizen

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Speaker 1: and help these people, so I handed over everything. I

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Speaker 1: just didn't realize that they were out to trap me.

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Speaker 1: They were out to make me feel like I was

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Speaker 1: going to go to prison the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: And they do this in the first meeting when you

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Speaker 1: said you constructed and what you testified to that you

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Speaker 1: believed you were creating a cover story for Roger because

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Speaker 1: Roger wanted to explain this particular tweet that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about in another tweet. What did you mean by you

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Speaker 1: know that you wanted to create a cover story Because

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Speaker 1: that sounds nefarious. Well it does. And first of all,

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Speaker 1: this is my recollection of what I was doing. It's

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Speaker 1: very ordinary in politics to provide an alternative explanation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I say I was trained in public relations by Edward

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Speaker 1: Burney's was the father of public relations. So sean to

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Speaker 1: give you an example, British Petroleum, which has been looking

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Speaker 1: for petroleum resources around the world for maybe one hundred years,

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Speaker 1: gets a public relations expert. Now there BP, and they say,

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Speaker 1: that's beyond petroleum. Well, maybe you know, one or two

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Speaker 1: percent of BP's business is solar. I don't know the

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Speaker 1: exact percentage, but BP is no more beyond petroleum than

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Speaker 1: Little Long John Silver is beyond booty. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: still going after petroleum all over the world. So is

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Speaker 1: that a cover story? Is a lie? Is pretty much

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Speaker 1: what's done normally in politics. And I was repositioning in

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Speaker 1: my mind. I was saying it was Podesta's involvement in

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Speaker 1: Russia which had become an issue. Now what Roger thought,

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Speaker 1: and Roger is a very different view of it. That's

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Speaker 1: Roger's view, and I don't dispute Roger's view. My idea

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Speaker 1: of what I was doing might have been my idea.

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Speaker 1: It might have been wrong. All right, let's hold it

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Speaker 1: right there. We're going to take our time with this

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Speaker 1: because I think this is too important, especially in light

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Speaker 1: of this frenetic, you know, almost like bizarre, strange level

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Speaker 1: of activity. I believe that Robert Muller, now the person

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Speaker 1: I was warning everybody about from the get go. We're

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Speaker 1: now seeing his true colors, and there's an anger that

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Speaker 1: they don't have collusion, and that led in part to

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Speaker 1: I guess they think, well, Michael Cohen was negotiating a

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Speaker 1: Trump Tower deal longer than they said that they had

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Speaker 1: originally said it okay, is any of that illegal? Any

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Speaker 1: of it? And it never materialized, and maybe it went

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Speaker 1: on longer. He wasn't the president, he wasn't even close

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Speaker 1: at that point in time, they were just beginning this

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Speaker 1: Russia witch hunt. There's so many reasons to be a

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Speaker 1: grateful nation, and in large part we have our military

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Speaker 1: and our veterans to thank for our liberties and freedom.

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Speaker 1: That's www. Dot Wreaths across America dot org. Right as

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Speaker 1: we continue with Jerome Corsi, by the way, who is

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Speaker 1: going to stay with us past a half hour? Here

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Speaker 1: there was this document of Robert Muller's office that you

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Speaker 1: know they wanted to use to sign as part of

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Speaker 1: a plea deal had in there, for example, this particular

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Speaker 1: text Honor about July twenty fifth, twenty sixteen, Person one

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Speaker 1: we know to be Roger emailed you Corsi with the

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Speaker 1: subject line get to Organization one. Obviously Wiki leaks the

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Speaker 1: body of the message read get to the founder of

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Speaker 1: the organization OSANGE at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London and

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Speaker 1: get the pending organization one emails they deal with foundation

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Speaker 1: allegedly now number one. I don't remember anything that ever

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Speaker 1: came out about the Clinton Foundation from Wiki leaks. I

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Speaker 1: might be wrong. I don't remember. Which would tell me

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Speaker 1: that you had no idea what this person might or

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Speaker 1: might not have. That's right. And see I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea at that point what Assange had. Hadn't

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Speaker 1: thought about it really hard, but I did subsequently, and

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Speaker 1: about flying over to Italy a few days later. I

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Speaker 1: figured it out. But at any rate, that day that

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Speaker 1: memo Roger was saying, asked Ted Malik, who's a good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine. I helped get his memoirs published in

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Speaker 1: an academic brilliant academic, said have him go see Assange,

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Speaker 1: and I passed it on. I saw nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 1: You could certainly go see Assange without committing a crime

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Speaker 1: under the Pentagon Papers case. By the way I've been,

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Speaker 1: I've interviewed him. I went to the Ecuadorian embassy. I

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Speaker 1: asked him if there was any Russia, you know, influence.

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Speaker 1: He said no. Now, whether or not you know he

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Speaker 1: told the truth, I don't you know. But if you

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Speaker 1: go to the Pentagon Papers case, if he if he

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Speaker 1: wasn't a part of stealing or hacking and it was

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Speaker 1: handed to him. Well, that's like the Pentagon papers handed

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Speaker 1: to the New York Times in Washington Posts and then

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Speaker 1: then publishing it. And the New York Times even published

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Speaker 1: the Wiki League stuff too. This is a short segment.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us. I promise I'll give you a lot

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Speaker 1: of time. I don't don't want to interrupt you. I

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Speaker 1: want you to be able to tell your story and

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Speaker 1: we'll get back to Jerome Corsi. On the other side.

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Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin's favorite radio fuck show host is on the

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Speaker 1: air right now, right, mister Baldwins Sean Hannity, all right,

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Speaker 1: twenty five now till the top of the hour. Toll

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Speaker 1: free telephone numbers eight hundred and nine for one, Sean,

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. We

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Speaker 1: continue with Jerome Corsi, and of course, the big news

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Speaker 1: this week, in an argument that I am making here,

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Speaker 1: is that it seems in an act of flailing desperation

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Speaker 1: and just bordering on insanity in some ways. You see

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Speaker 1: this flurry of activity with Robert Muller, and we now

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Speaker 1: learned earlier this week that Jerome Corsi was offered a

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Speaker 1: plea deal. He said, I'm not going to sign it. Said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sign it because if I signed

844
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: what you want me to sign, it's going to be

845
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: a lie. Now we just heard I played earlier. You

846
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: know there's James Comey admitting he lied, admitting McCabe lied.

847
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: But you can still be a good person and tell

848
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: lies and drew them. You're saying you didn't remember things

849
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: from two years ago when you went before the special counsel.

850
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: You know, by the way memory does, it's not as

851
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: good as it used to be. And I'm only fifty six,

852
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: so let me be blunt about that. I don't know.

853
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: You know, most people I know that are older than say, yeah,

854
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: it really begins to go in some ways. But you

855
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: made a big choice because you basically were offered to

856
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: get out of jail free card. Don't's be honest here.

857
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: You were offered a we'll leave you alone. You signed

858
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: this agreement, you admit to this, and now you go.

859
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: I'll use your words. You know you now may spend

860
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: the rest of your life in jail. Well, Sean, if

861
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: I have to spend the rest of my life in jail,

862
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: so be it. If that's where justice in America has

863
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: come to. But I will not stand in front of

864
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: a US attorney and swear to God that I knowingly

865
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: and Wilson wilfully gave false information that I knew to

866
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: be false to federal authorities to deceive them. Because I

867
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: know in my heart I did not do that, and

868
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: I will not swear a lie to God. I just

869
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: won't do it. That sounds like a principle stand that,

870
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, I would think that they would want from somebody.

871
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: What was their reaction when you said you can't sign

872
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: this deal? They furious, blew up, told my attorney will

873
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: take it from here. Very Kurt hung up the phone.

874
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: That's what they did. So you, David Gray, your attorney

875
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: got the call, but you had already told your attorney

876
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: you will not take a plea deal on the specific

877
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: offer that they had made to you. And that was

878
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: Monday morning. I did that Monday morning, I announced to

879
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: David and began announcing to the world. I am this

880
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: is a fraudulent deal I was offered by the Department

881
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: of Justice. I had to lie to the regulatory industries

882
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: where I've held insurance, insurance and securities licenses the eighties.

883
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: I was going to sign. They demanded to be secret

884
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: that I had guilty before a federal judge. And I

885
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: couldn't even report that to the role, to the various

886
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: regulatory agencies which require you to immediately notify them of

887
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: a change in circumstance which would prevent you from having

888
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: a license. So it was both I had to lie

889
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: and I had to commit some kind of a fraud.

890
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: I won't do that. I won't commit a crime sean

891
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: to stay out of prison the rest of mine. I

892
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: can die in prison, but I won't have had my integrity,

893
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: and before God, who is the only judge who matters

894
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: in my life, I will have I'll been honest. You know,

895
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: the case of Lieutenant General Flynn, and I'm I'm listening

896
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: to you, frankly in amazement because it's a principle stand

897
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: you're taking and Lieutenant Flynn, and I'm pretty sure I've

898
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: figured out what happened in his case, and I cast

899
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: no aspersions upon him, just the opposite. I think he's

900
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: an American hero. You know, this is the things you

901
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: get for thirty years of serving your country, for you know,

902
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: far less money than you would ever get in the

903
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: private sector. But in his particular case, neither the two

904
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: FBI agents that interviewed him. None of them thought he

905
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: was lying. Comey didn't think he was lying. So why

906
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: did he agree to the one charge that he admitted

907
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: he'd lied? Number One, he ran out of money, he

908
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: couldn't afford to pay his lawyers, he had to sell

909
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: his house. And what I really suspect is, and this

910
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: is a trick or pressure point that prosecutors often used. Well,

911
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: and I guess we're just gonna have to. You know,

912
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: your son work with you and your business. We're just

913
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to. We're gonna be going after him too,

914
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: just so you know, and my guests, and I'm this

915
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: is total speculation. Is he said I got it, I'll

916
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: sign it, and as a father, he'd dove on the

917
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: sword for his son or somebody else in his family.

918
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: Does that sound plausible to you, because that's what I

919
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: believe probably happened. I believe it's exactly what happened, given

920
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: my experience. Sean and General Flynn's a huge American hero

921
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: in my book, And they're doing the same to me.

922
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: They say, you know, your family will be bankrupt, you'll

923
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: lose your jobs, You'll you'll not have any way to work,

924
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: you'll be we'll be putting you in prison. Soon you're

925
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: gonna be guilty, you'll be separated from your wife. You

926
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: may never see your children or grandchildren as a free

927
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: man again. I said, if that's what you want to

928
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: do to me, mister Mueller, come get me, because I'm

929
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: not swearing to aligne no matter how much it threatened me.

930
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: Did you ever meet Muller? No, I've never met Muller.

931
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: Is Andrew Weissman in any of these meetings. Never met Andrew.

932
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: He's never been in any of these. It's always been

933
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: the Jeannie Ree arn Zelenski and Andrew Goldstein. Um, let

934
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: me ask you, and I asked you this on TV

935
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: last night because I got to know you when you

936
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: and Jim O'Neill wrote the book that was a number

937
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: one best seller, Unfit for Command. Um, and I'm reading

938
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: all these things about you, you know, and I asked

939
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: you about it last night because and I didn't fully

940
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: hear your answer. To be very blunt, it's hard sometimes

941
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: on TV that you didn't believe the moon landings had

942
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: really happened, or you believe that nine to eleven was

943
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: an inside job. And I'm asking for a specific reason.

944
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: I know that you you went into the issue of

945
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: Barack Obama's birth certificate that that for me was never

946
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: my issue. Really, I just thought these you know, produced

947
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: a stupid thing. When we move on, and eventually it happened.

948
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: But do you really believe those things? We are people

949
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: lying about you, People are lying about me. I don't

950
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: believe those things at all, Shanes. I think we landed

951
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: on the moon. But you've seen it as I have correct, Yes,

952
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: and in my critics like to demonize me. Was the

953
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: making up things that I've never believed and I don't avow,

954
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: and I'll acknowledge that. You know, I pushed the envelope

955
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: investigative journalists, I'm willing to ask questions. You go against

956
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: the government explanation of things. Now, why why didn't you

957
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: claim the First Amendment privilege that you don't give away

958
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: sources in any regard? Well, Sean, I couldn't have done that.

959
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: I could have, but I went in honestly to try

960
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: to help. I didn't see I had done anything wrong.

961
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see anyone had done it, not Roger Stone,

962
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: certainly not the President. I did, you know. I don't

963
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: even like Russian saladdressing, so I don't have any to

964
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: do with Russia. That's probably the only thing I like Russia.

965
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: Saladdressing all right, let me ask you very bluntly, what

966
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: did they want you to say? And they want me

967
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: say that here's my contact with Julian san which I

968
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: did not have, and this person told me everything doing

969
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: in a san chad. I told it to Roger Stone

970
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: so Roger Stone could tell it to Banner or the president.

971
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: And they were colluded. This was their channel to tell

972
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: Asange when to drop things, what he had. How did

973
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: they wanted to create this false narrative that Donald Trump

974
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: threw Roger Stone through me to Wiki Leaks, was giving

975
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: instructions as to how to use these stolen DNC emails

976
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: to harm Hillary Clinton. That's what they wanted me to say.

977
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: So now, this is after the DNC emails came out

978
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: just before the Democratic National Convention, correct, correct? All right?

979
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: And if I recall correctly, there was tons of speculation,

980
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: well does he have anything else? Does it? You know?

981
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Nobody knew. There was like this, this shroud of mystery

982
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: all over the place, right, That's right. Everybody was asking

983
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: everybody what does a Sange has? It was a question

984
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: on everyone's mind at that time. You know, I had

985
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: found in my interviews with him, he's very careful with

986
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: every word he says, and it was, you know, and

987
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to know because my feeling was that where

988
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: if he did get this information wherever he says he

989
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: get them from, Maybe maybe it's a Russian cutout, and

990
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't know. Maybe it was Russia and he

991
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: just didn't tell me the truth. Maybe it was who knows,

992
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: It could have been a hundred different things. Maybe it

993
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: was China. You know, Hillary's emails were we understand were

994
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: hacked by at least what six foreign intelligence services. You know,

995
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's insane that she's not in any trouble

996
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: and that she got an exoneration before even an investigation.

997
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: So what can you tell us about the joint defense

998
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: agreement that you had with President Trump's legal team David

999
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: Gray and j Sakalo and the team and the president's

1000
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: lawyers were entering into an informal was never assigned defense agreement.

1001
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: My understanding what I told David and I never participated

1002
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: in any of these conversations. I didn't hear them because

1003
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer. This was lawyer to a lawyer,

1004
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: and what my instructions were to David were let the

1005
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: President know through Ja Secalo, what's going on with Mueller

1006
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: from our perspective, what we're seeing, what we're being asked,

1007
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: share that with the president. Don't ask for advice. We

1008
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: don't want the president's advice, we don't want any coordination.

1009
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: It's a one way communication, David. David affirms that this

1010
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: is how he did it, where we share information with

1011
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Jay Secalo and don't expect anything in return. When Roger

1012
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: wrote you about you know, get to organization one, which

1013
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: we now know to be Wiki Leaks and Asange, you

1014
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: never got there. But did you have or know somebody

1015
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: that had contact with Asange that could have given you

1016
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: information that you believed to be accurate. No, I had

1017
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: no person who was an intermediary or go between or

1018
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: contact with Asange that told me what a Sange had.

1019
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: I had no intermediate contact at all, no direct contact,

1020
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: no intermediate content, no contact whatsoever of any kind with

1021
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: Julian Assange. So there's no chance of any conspiracy to

1022
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: get stolen emails from anybody. You never hacked anybody, I assume,

1023
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: was that correct? No? I never did. Okay, so they

1024
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: really don't have any underlying crime for you at all,

1025
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: do they No? And they were furious at me because

1026
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: I broke their chain. I couldn't give them the piece

1027
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: that connected Roger to Assange. And now I'm a bad dog.

1028
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: Now I've lied, and now I'm going to spend the

1029
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: rest of my life in prison. And so be it.

1030
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: So you know we're back to the say it's like

1031
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: the Martha stewartcase. I mean, if you can't get them

1032
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: on the underlying crime, and one fact is misremembered and

1033
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: you didn't remember, you literally are talking about emails from

1034
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: almost two years ago or past two years ago, correct,

1035
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: So you have two year old emails. I don't know

1036
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: how many emails you get today. I got a bunch

1037
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: and text message. I got a bunch of sixty thousand emails?

1038
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: Am I two? When I finally reloaded, I had sixty

1039
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: thousand emails. In that case, when you went in, had

1040
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: you read those emails to refresh your memory? No? I

1041
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: couldn't because I wanted to give them. My laptop was

1042
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: nearly broken in the condition when I stopped using it,

1043
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: and so I was afraid if I reloaded twenty sixteen

1044
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: I would destroy it's by the way, you're the only

1045
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: one that gets away with that is Hillary Clinton, and

1046
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: you get to delete them and then acid wash it

1047
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: with bleach bit and then you get to have somebody

1048
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: bust up your devices and remove SIM cards. And of

1049
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: course in her case, you know, she's free as a bird.

1050
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean, when you see all the things that I don't.

1051
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch my TV show much

1052
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: and all the time, almost every day, almost every day,

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Speaker 1: I love your show, well, thank you, But you know

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Speaker 1: we've uncovered a lot of information about her, and she

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Speaker 1: gets an exoneration, violated the Espionage Act, clear obstruction of justice,

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: did far worse, more conscious leave than you did, and

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01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: nothing happens to her. Then she actually paid for Russian

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Speaker 1: lies to influence the election, and they turned out to

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Speaker 1: be even its own author won't stand by him anymore.

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Speaker 1: And then those lies become the basis of Faiza court

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Speaker 1: fraud so they can spy on a Trump campaign associate.

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Speaker 1: As you see that, you know I've been trying my

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Speaker 1: best to uncover every aspect of this, And you think, well,

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Speaker 1: this is the United States. This is not justice or

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Speaker 1: equal justice under the law, or equal application of our laws.

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Speaker 1: We might as well take the constitution. Hearing this and

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Speaker 1: knowing everything Hillary did, just shred it because it's not

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Speaker 1: being a two tiered justice system. I've been right the

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Speaker 1: whole time, and as we continue, Jerome courses, he has

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Speaker 1: been now our guests for the full hour. I want

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Speaker 1: to give you the last minute we have and give

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Speaker 1: you a chance to do just direct your what you

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Speaker 1: want the American people to know about your experience, what

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Speaker 1: you now have described in detail to us. Experience proved

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Speaker 1: to me that the Muler investigation is run by political

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Speaker 1: hacks that are really criminals. Anybody who's demand to keep

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Speaker 1: me out of prison, I have to swear to a

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Speaker 1: lie I consider a criminal. And the supervision of Muller

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Speaker 1: proves that the Department of Justice is being run right

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Speaker 1: now by political hacks who are criminals. If this is

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Speaker 1: the way it's going to be, I'll go to federal

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Speaker 1: prison for the rest of my life. It'll be that's

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Speaker 1: what I have to do to show the country that

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Speaker 1: we do not have justice in America any longer. We've

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Speaker 1: got political criminal criminals running the Justice Department. Well, I

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Speaker 1: want to just say this, I'm very sorry that you're

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Speaker 1: going through this especially because you didn't do anything and

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Speaker 1: this is how you're being treated. And I hope every

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Speaker 1: American pays very close attention to this. Jerome Corsi, thank

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Speaker 1: you for being with us. You're in our thoughts, are

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Speaker 1: in our prayers. We wish you. God's speeds are Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Sean God bless God Speed eight hundred nine for one

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Speaker 1: Shawn toll free telephone number Jonathan Gillham Raaldo Rivera. Next,

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Speaker 1: stay right here for our final news round up and

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Speaker 1: information overload in the final hour of the Sean Hannity Show. Well, Soan,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I think I've been targeted because I

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Speaker 1: supported Donald Trump for president. I helped defeat Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: But I violated no law regarding the twenty sixteen election

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Speaker 1: or anything else. And the idea that I knew about

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Speaker 1: the source or the content of the wiki least disclosures,

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Speaker 1: whether they were allegedly hacked emails or allegedly stolen emails

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Speaker 1: of John Podesta, is simply false. I had a tipster

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Speaker 1: who told me that after Assange went on CNN in

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Speaker 1: June and Fox in August and said that he had

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Speaker 1: a trove of documents on Hillary Clinton, I had a

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Speaker 1: tipster to tell me that they were devastating a bombshell

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Speaker 1: incredible would end Hillary's campaign, and that they would be

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Speaker 1: published in October. And I provided text messages only last

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Speaker 1: week that proved that that source was Randy Cretico, a

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Speaker 1: New York based progressive radio talk show host, and that

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Speaker 1: his source was not Julian Assange, but a woman attorney

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Speaker 1: who works for Wiki Lakes. So now suddenly the media

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about Randy Cretico anymore. Now suddenly

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Speaker 1: they have a new narrative, which is the idea that

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Speaker 1: I must have received these documents, either Podesta's emails or

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Speaker 1: the DNC emails from Jerry Corsi. That is also false,

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Speaker 1: all right, that was just in the last hour Roger

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Speaker 1: Stone as now the mystery of what is going on.

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Speaker 1: Paul Manafort, Julian Assange, both the Nine The Guardian report

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Speaker 1: that they had met on three separate occasions. Jerome Corsi

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Speaker 1: saying he will not sign something that is not true

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Speaker 1: in some plea deal offered to him, he claims by

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Speaker 1: Robert Muller, in connection with what he knew and what

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Speaker 1: he and Roger Stone were communicating about in the lead

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Speaker 1: up to the twenty sixteen presidential election, and on top

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Speaker 1: of all of that, we just have you know what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen next. The President had put out answers

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Speaker 1: to specific questions, one of them apparently having to do

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Speaker 1: with whether or not the President had any conversation with

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Speaker 1: Roger Stone about the issue of white what might be

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Speaker 1: released by Julian Assans. Roger Stone just telling us moments

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Speaker 1: ago that there was no such conversation, and the President answered, correctly.

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Speaker 1: Anyway here to get to the bottom of this are

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Speaker 1: what are the legal aspects that are in play here?

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Speaker 1: Because when Robert Muller, if he's offering Jerome Corsi, is

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Speaker 1: Corsi claims some type of plea deal, then that's interesting

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Speaker 1: to one count of perjury or lying in even the

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Speaker 1: possibility of only probation. But he's not going to sign

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Speaker 1: something that's not true. Remember back Lieutenant General Flynn said,

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Speaker 1: the FBI agents and James Come himself, Peter Struck amongst them,

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Speaker 1: all did not believe he lied to the FBI, but

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Speaker 1: he was going bankrupt, had to sell his house. I

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Speaker 1: believe the screws would be interned on him, probably pressuring

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Speaker 1: him with some time for threat against his son who

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Speaker 1: he was in business with this happens all too often,

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Speaker 1: and we call it, as my friend Greg Jared, who

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Speaker 1: joins us now calls it testa lying say what they want.

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Speaker 1: You get off with no sentence, You get off with

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Speaker 1: a light sentence. But both mana Fort and Corsi are saying, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to play that game. Also with US.

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Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy, Fox News contributor, columnist National Review, former, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Assistant US Attorney for the Southern District of

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Speaker 1: New York, Welcome both of you. You know, Andy, we've

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Speaker 1: gone back and forth about this, and you know, it

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Speaker 1: reminds me of like Sammy the Bow Gravano, who you know,

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Speaker 1: he kills what eighteen nineteen people and they make a

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Speaker 1: deal and he doesn't go to jail if he testifies

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Speaker 1: against Godi. How do you trust a guy when you're

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Speaker 1: bribing him with a get out of jail free card

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Speaker 1: in that particular case, maybe more dramatic, but do you

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Speaker 1: see that happening here? Sean. The vital difference between what

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Speaker 1: you just described in terms of Gravano and what we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with here is that Gravano actually pledged guilty to

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Speaker 1: a crime. That is to say, to a scheme to

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Speaker 1: a conspiracy. What a prosecutor does in a real criminal

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Speaker 1: case when the prosecutor has an actual conspiracy that he's investigating,

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Speaker 1: is he brings the cooperator in and the cooperator testify

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Speaker 1: or alocutes it is guilty plea to the existence of

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Speaker 1: the conspiracy. He says, here's the crime that we agree

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Speaker 1: to commit. I was a member of the Gambino family

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Speaker 1: of Cosa Nostra. Here was the boss, here was the

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Speaker 1: under boss. This is the crew I ran. These are

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Speaker 1: the crimes I committed. And that way you have the

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Speaker 1: structure of the criminal enterprise. You've got it all described,

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Speaker 1: you have everybody's role in it. Right here, what we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with is an investigation of no crime, so they

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Speaker 1: don't have What they're doing is they're investigating the scene

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Speaker 1: underbelly of American politics, the kind of stuff that goes

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Speaker 1: on in campaigns. And even if Muller had his dream

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Speaker 1: version of events here, let's say Wiki Leaks was in

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Speaker 1: contact with Jerry Corsey, who was in contact with Stone,

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Speaker 1: who told the president that they had Hillary Clinton or

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Speaker 1: John Podesta's emails. What's the crime, because I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody knew he was there. This is important because I'm

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Speaker 1: watching all of this and I'm asking myself, what is

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Speaker 1: okay somebody says that they have something that is damning

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Speaker 1: op research that's going to hurt the other party. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think if four hundred thirty five members of Congress

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Speaker 1: one hundred US senators get a phone call and the

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Speaker 1: phone call says, no, we got information that is damaging

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Speaker 1: to your opponent, do you agree with me? Probably all

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Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty five would say what have you

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Speaker 1: got and go and meet such a person. Of course

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Speaker 1: they would, because that's the way politics goes in America.

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Speaker 1: But my point is that they are criminalizing something that

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Speaker 1: is not criminal activity. That's the reason that they have

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Speaker 1: to plead them guilty to false statement counts. I agree

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Speaker 1: with you that Sammy Gravano got a disgraceful sentence, but

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Speaker 1: at least he pled guilty to racketeering. At least he

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Speaker 1: pled guilty to the crime that they were investigating. Here,

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Speaker 1: they're not investigating a crime, so they have to plead

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Speaker 1: everybody guilty to false statements counts. And Sean, if you

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Speaker 1: were a prosecutor building a case that you intend to

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Speaker 1: have a big bang at the end. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the way you go about that is to plead all

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Speaker 1: your important witnesses to lying to the FBI. You want

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Speaker 1: to put people on the stand that the first thing

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Speaker 1: that the jury's going to hear, and the most enduring

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Speaker 1: thing they're going to hear, is that the guy's a

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Speaker 1: lawyer and can't be trusted. Nobody builds a case that way,

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett, Well, Jerome, course, he sent me the plea

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Speaker 1: offer that he received from Robert Muller, and count number

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Speaker 1: one false statement. It begins by saying, Jerome, course, he

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Speaker 1: did willfully and knowingly make a materially false, fictitious, fraudulent

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Speaker 1: statement to wit and then it identifies three things. He said.

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Speaker 1: Those three things are different than emails that he have

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Speaker 1: and a half. And the lawyer responded, of course, he's

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Speaker 1: a lawyer. Responded by saying, my client did not have

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Speaker 1: the benefit of reviewing his emails, and once he did that,

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Speaker 1: he amended his statements to your office. And now you're

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Speaker 1: asking him to admit that he lied, when in fact,

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Speaker 1: he simply didn't recall a couple of the emails. He's

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Speaker 1: seventy one years old. Look I'm much younger. If you

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Speaker 1: asked me, who was on my show next week. I

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Speaker 1: honestly don't think I could recall. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: would an example. So I went back because I had

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Speaker 1: some vague recollection that I wrote about Wiki leaks in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen during the summer, and I researched it.

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Speaker 1: I go back through my emails, I go through my

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Speaker 1: collumn I wrote a column which I don't remember writing.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, and do you know that's true? Right?

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Speaker 1: How does anyone remember what the hell you did in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. I don't even know where I was. We're

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Speaker 1: having on emails and information that I sent out trying

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Speaker 1: to get the same information from Wiki leagues. Now I

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Speaker 1: don't remember sending them. So if I had testified yesterday,

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Speaker 1: i'd be in the same position as Jerome Corsi. I

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Speaker 1: want to and do you want to jump out on that.

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Speaker 1: I just was going to say that, you know, I

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Speaker 1: remember every word of every column, and I expect everyone

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Speaker 1: else to remember every word. That's ridiculous. You do not anyway.

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Speaker 1: But let's go back to this document describing Corsis activities,

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Speaker 1: and I want to just ask if it's a crime.

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Speaker 1: It says honor about July twenty fifth, twenty sixteen, Person

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Speaker 1: one we believe now to be Roger Stone send an

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Speaker 1: email to Corsi with the subject line get to the

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Speaker 1: founder of organization one we believe to be Wiki Leagues,

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Speaker 1: meaning a sunch. The body of the message read get

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Speaker 1: to the founder of the organization Organization one at the

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Speaker 1: Ecuadorian Embassy in London and not really hiding it, and

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Speaker 1: get pending Organization one e els they deal with foundation allegedly,

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Speaker 1: so somebody gave him. It sounds like somebody gave him

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Speaker 1: a tip. Hey, this guy might have information that deals

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Speaker 1: with the Clinton Foundation. That's how I read it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And if it was a crime, they would have asked

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Speaker 1: Jerry Corsi to plead guilty to conspiracy to commit espionage.

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Speaker 1: They're describing an operation to get somebody's clause on opposition research,

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Speaker 1: which people may think is icky, but is not illegal.

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Speaker 1: And again, Sean, I'll come back to the same thing.

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Speaker 1: The reason that they're pressuring him to plead guilty to

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Speaker 1: a false statement is in order to camouflage what they're

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Speaker 1: doing as if they were investigating actual crime. But what's

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Speaker 1: going on here is they're investigating a non crime. They

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Speaker 1: trip people up, and they get them to falsely explain,

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Speaker 1: or as they put it, inaccurately explain what happened. And

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Speaker 1: what the media then runs out and reports is that

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Speaker 1: Muller is doing an investigation of Trump collusion with Russia

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Speaker 1: and everybody's pleading guilt. Isn't this what we call a

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Speaker 1: classic to that? Isn't this a classic perjury trap? In

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Speaker 1: other words, you know they can't get you on the

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Speaker 1: underlying crime. So what it teaches I guess everybody else's

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Speaker 1: even though you might be inclined as I normally would be.

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Speaker 1: If the FBI wanted my help, I would want to

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Speaker 1: help them. But if I'm risking my own life and

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Speaker 1: a charge of perjury if I don't accurately remember something,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know what I did on

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Speaker 1: TV last night, and I'm like and Corse's mistake is twofold.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he should not have volunteered to testify.

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Speaker 1: He should have said no when he was asked. And

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Speaker 1: second of all, he should have reviewed his emails before

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Speaker 1: he testified. That's his mistake. But nevertheless, what if he

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Speaker 1: didn't save them? Well, he actually deleted them, but then

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Speaker 1: he was able to gain access, as you often are,

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Speaker 1: through deleted emails that are nevertheless cat But I mean

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Speaker 1: the point is that if Robert Mueller decides to charge

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Speaker 1: Jerome Corsi with making a false statement, he'll never be

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Speaker 1: able to prove it, I predict, because he'd have to

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Speaker 1: show that it was willingly and knowingly made. Well. The

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Speaker 1: defense of Jerome Corsi, as it is for many people,

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Speaker 1: is that I didn't knowingly make a false statement. I

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Speaker 1: didn't remember emails that I said. Isn't it an act

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Speaker 1: of bravery? I mean, pretty much what it seems. Muller's

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Speaker 1: team was offering you plead guilty to one count of lying,

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Speaker 1: and we won't even we won't even oppose the possibility

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Speaker 1: that you just get probation. So Corsie says, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. Mantaphor it. He says, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: tell you what you want to say. That Greg, you

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Speaker 1: coined the term, well, I've heard it before. Test the lie.

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Speaker 1: In other words, they're sitting there across the table from you,

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Speaker 1: basically telling you what they want to hear, and all

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Speaker 1: you have to do to save your own ass is

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Speaker 1: say what they want to hear. And if you do

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Speaker 1: you're going to benefit instead of the rest of your

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Speaker 1: life in jail. Maybe it's going to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: two weeks like Papadopoulos, but both of them to both

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Speaker 1: say no because they can't go along with something that's false.

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Speaker 1: They're both older gentlemen. It seems to me is that

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty principled stand, knowing that this might be

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Speaker 1: the rest of their lives in jail. They're being principled

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Speaker 1: in the special counsel is being unprincipled because he doesn't

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Speaker 1: care about the truth and he's using the tactics of

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Speaker 1: bribery and extortion to try to get somebody to capitulate

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Speaker 1: in coursie. And I think Maniford now are refusing to

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Speaker 1: do so. The quick answer on that, Andy, and we'll

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Speaker 1: take a break to capitulate on what that's the I

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Speaker 1: mean what Greg outlines. Sure, but the thing is, what

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Speaker 1: if they admitted what Mauler wanted, it's still not a crime.

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Speaker 1: What they're doing is they're criminalizing what they do in

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Speaker 1: a political campaign. It's not like, you know, somebody agrees

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Speaker 1: with Muller's version of events. And finally we have the

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Speaker 1: big hacking conspiracy. They don't have I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about that when we get back. I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about because the New York Times also published

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Speaker 1: this information, as did other papers other news sources, and

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Speaker 1: there was a case in the past where it became

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Speaker 1: a big deal. I'll explain that when we get back.

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Speaker 1: There are so many reasons to be a grateful nation,

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Speaker 1: those who currently serve in their families, and teach younger

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Speaker 1: an expression of gratitude. What started with America's most hollowed

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Speaker 1: ground at Arlington National Cemetery, has grown to ceremonies at

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Speaker 1: visit www dot reefs across America dot org. That's www.

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Speaker 1: Dot reefs across America dot org. All right, as we continue,

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Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy, Greg Jareda with us UM, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: other publications that did the same thing that wiki leaks did.

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Speaker 1: They got the information, they got the emails DNC Podesta,

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Speaker 1: they all didn't they all print them. They Why are

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Speaker 1: they less culpable than wiki leaks doing it? Andy, They're not.

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Speaker 1: We have a pentagon yea. If wiki leaks was involved,

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Speaker 1: if if wiki leaks had an understanding with Russian operatives

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Speaker 1: that there would be hacking and wiki leaks would take

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Speaker 1: the hacked information and put it out, then wookie leaks

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Speaker 1: may have a hacking problem. You know, they may be

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Speaker 1: involved in the hacking conspiracy. That doesn't mean that other

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Speaker 1: people who take what they have and run with it

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Speaker 1: have committed a crime. You could, you know, I remember

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Speaker 1: when this came at Sean Marco Rubio I think, came

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Speaker 1: out and said nobody should rely on this stuff, that

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Speaker 1: nobody should you know, publicize it. Because it's it's stolen

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Speaker 1: material and he wanted to be like the last honest man.

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Speaker 1: But the way things work in America, everybody uses this

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Speaker 1: stuff and the media regularizes it by publishing it. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a good point. And on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the guys, don't mind. I want to hold you

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Speaker 1: over a few more minutes and get into historically why

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Speaker 1: I think this is important and what it means for

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Speaker 1: freedom of the press and those that are given information

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Speaker 1: like this eight hundred nine one. Sean will continue more

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Speaker 1: with Greg Jarrett and Andy McCarthy. On the other side,

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity talks to the people involved in the top

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Speaker 1: stories of the day. Every day. Sean Hannity is on

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Speaker 1: all right, twenty five now until the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: It's getting more interesting by the hour, by the minute,

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Speaker 1: by the day. And Robert Mueller has had two setbacks

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Speaker 1: now in the last couple of days, one with Paul

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Speaker 1: Manafort also apparently along with Jerome Corsia joint defense agreements

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Speaker 1: with the White House, which means a lot of the

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Speaker 1: information was going back and forth. Mueller's claiming the cooperation

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Speaker 1: agreement with Manafort has been breached, and in the case

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Speaker 1: of COURSI. He's saying that he refuses to take a

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Speaker 1: plea deal in which he would be forced to lie

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Speaker 1: about something. I want to get into the issue it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe use the Pentagon papers as a case in point

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Speaker 1: Andy to explain to people exactly why this is not

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Speaker 1: a even if it did happen as it relates to

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Speaker 1: Jerome Corsi or Roger Stone, why would you say it's

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Speaker 1: not a crime. Well, Sean, maybe the best example for

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Speaker 1: people would be like a diary. Right, you have a

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Speaker 1: diary in your house. I come in and I steal

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Speaker 1: the diary out of your house and I give it

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Speaker 1: to Greg and Greg runs with the information on it. Now,

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Speaker 1: Greg didn't deputize me to go steal it, you know,

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Speaker 1: he didn't know I was going to take it. But

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Speaker 1: he finds the information interesting he publishes it. Now I've

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Speaker 1: committed a crime because I stole it from you. Greg

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Speaker 1: hasn't done anything wrong. Now you could say, maybe he's

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Speaker 1: done something on ethical or something that you think is achy,

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Speaker 1: because you've you've put personal information in your diary and

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Speaker 1: he's not respecting your right to privacy as you see it. Sure, fine,

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Speaker 1: but he still let me ask you specifically in this case,

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Speaker 1: because I interviewed a sage on radio and on TV,

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Speaker 1: and I asked him repeatedly, I'll play it for you

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Speaker 1: if you want, whether or not he got this information

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Speaker 1: from Russia. Now one caveat people in the intel community,

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Speaker 1: other sources. I have said it absolutely. Maybe it wasn't

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Speaker 1: directly from Russia or a state party, as he said,

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Speaker 1: but it could have been a third party cut out,

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Speaker 1: if you will, in other words, somebody that is not

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Speaker 1: associated with them, but really is doing their bidding. But

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Speaker 1: here's what, asan said, Russia give you this information or

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Speaker 1: anybody associated with Russia. Al source is not a state party.

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Speaker 1: So the answer for our interactions is no, you did

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Speaker 1: not get this information about the DNC John Podesta's emails.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell the American people a thousand percent you

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Speaker 1: did not get it from Russia or anybody associated with Russia.

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Speaker 1: We can say, we have said repeatedly over the last

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Speaker 1: two months, that a source is the Russian governments and

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Speaker 1: it is not the state party. Our source is not

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Speaker 1: the Russian government. So in other words, let me be clear,

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Speaker 1: Russia did not give you the podested documents or anything

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Speaker 1: from the DNC. All Right, now, Andy, just using your

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Speaker 1: example of you giving something to Greg, and Greg maybe

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Speaker 1: unethically but not illegally, you know, publishes that something, and

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Speaker 1: maybe you're on the hook. What if something is brought

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Speaker 1: to wiki leagues by whatever source, but it happens to

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Speaker 1: be truth that they're publishing. It may not like it,

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Speaker 1: it may be secrets, it might be you know, personally,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe we as a country have not developed

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Speaker 1: cyber security. We get hacked all the time. It's insane

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Speaker 1: that we have not built up a better defense system

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Speaker 1: for our government. Which also raises the question of Hillary's

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Speaker 1: emails and how unsafe that was in a bathroom closet.

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Speaker 1: But when he says that if what he is saying

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Speaker 1: is true and this was offered to him, is he

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Speaker 1: rag using your analogy? Did he just receive it from

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Speaker 1: somebody and he published what somebody gave him because he

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Speaker 1: believed it to be true. The best example is the

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Speaker 1: Pentagon Papers case. The documents about the Vietnam War were

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Speaker 1: stolen by Daniel Ellsberg. They were given to the New

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Speaker 1: York Times and the Washington Post that published them. The

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Speaker 1: Post and the New York Times are insulated from prosecution.

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Speaker 1: They're publishing something that's a matter of public interest even

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Speaker 1: though they were stolen, And that principle of the Pentagon

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Speaker 1: Papers cases stood for a very long time. We don't

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Speaker 1: prosecute people for trying to find out information, especially news

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Speaker 1: organizations that are in the public interest, even though they

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Speaker 1: originally might be stolen information. The same can be said here.

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Speaker 1: Let's assume that the documents were stolen and given to

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Speaker 1: wiki leaks, and then they then published. Of course, he

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Speaker 1: was trying to do exactly what you did, trying to

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Speaker 1: find out information. If you read the count against him,

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Speaker 1: it says he reached out to wiki leaks. All right,

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Speaker 1: so did you? So did I? So did hundreds of

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Speaker 1: other journalists across America during the summer of two thousand

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Speaker 1: and sixteen because Julians he's got some stuff and it's

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Speaker 1: going to be damaging to Hillary Clinton, So everybody was

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Speaker 1: trying to find out what it was. So why then,

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Speaker 1: It's not why Andy then would in the sense if

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Speaker 1: this is offered to Wiki leagues, and I know they

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Speaker 1: view themselves as a news organization, if it's given to them,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't they be in the same position as The

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Speaker 1: New York Times and the Washington Post in the Pentagon

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Speaker 1: Papers case, Well, Sean, I don't know that I accept

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Speaker 1: Asana's explanation that he didn't get it from Russia. If

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Speaker 1: you take at face value what he said, and if

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Speaker 1: it turns out as you qualified before, if what he's

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Speaker 1: saying is true, then I agree with Greg's analysis of it.

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Speaker 1: He's just like a journalist. All right. Let's say his

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Speaker 1: source was a Russian cutout. Let's say it's that. Does

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Speaker 1: that matter who where he got it from? I think

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Speaker 1: it depends on whether he knows and whether you have

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Speaker 1: an arrangement that you can that you can properly describe

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01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: as a conspiracy and others. How is that different though

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Speaker 1: than the Pentagon papers? What do you mean how? In

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01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,799
Speaker 1: other words? You know they were stolen, they were stolen documents,

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01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: they were printed. Yeah, but if you're encouraging people to

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01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: do the theft and there's proof of that, Let's say

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01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: he didn't. Let's say you didn't encourage it. Somebody came

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01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: to him and offered it to him. Well, that's a

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01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: different thing, right, That's like that's like somebody takes information.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is there's a lot of there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of you know, this is not a one off

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01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: with Swikey leads, right, Uh, They've had they have a

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Speaker 1: lot of information that they've put out in the past.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people in the intelligence community

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Speaker 1: long before any of this happened, that thought that they

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01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: were in arm of Russian intelligence. And I don't think

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01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: that that's ever been disproved. It certainly hasn't been disproved. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I know people that believe that with all their heart

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Speaker 1: and soul, and I don't have an answer because it's

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01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: it's way above my pay grade. But but then let

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01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: me take it a step further and ask if in

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01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: fact they got these this information however they got it

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01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: and they published it, and if they didn't encourage it.

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01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: You're saying there's no crime associated with that, and that

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01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: that precedence of the Pentagon papers would hold. Yes, if

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01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: there's no conspiracy, Sean, I don't understand why giving it

1498
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: to Wiki leaks would be different from giving it to me,

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01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's either a crimer there's not

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01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 1: underneath it all. Yeah, and Greg, to take it even

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01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: maybe a step further, if they really wanted to find

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01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: out where they got it from, why didn't Muller and

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01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: his Well, first of all, why didn't you know? The

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01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: interesting thing is he never went after Hillary Clinton and

1505
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 1: real Russian lies, really used it to propagandize the American people,

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01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: bought and paid for Russian lies. Then a fraud committed

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01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: on four fives accords and four app separate applications, pertinent

1508
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: information withheld from those judges. And then of course she

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01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: was exon rated and without an investigation. And then we've

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01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: got surveillance and I'm asking and leaking raw intelligence abuse here.

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01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 1: But you know, let's just for the sake of argument

1512
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: here say that you know, in the case of Wiki leaks,

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01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: that they did what any other paper would do or

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01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: any other Yeah, and Muller admits it. But why didn't

1515
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: they asked here's my question, why didn't they ask Julian Asange? Well,

1516
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 1: they shouldn't. The first thing you do is you asked

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01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Julian Assange. There's no indication anyone. Wouldn't he be the

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01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: one guy I'm sorry to interrupt, wouldn't he be the

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01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: one guy that knows where he got it from? And

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01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't he be able wouldn't he be able to prove

1521
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: where he got it from, he would. But the on

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01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,759
Speaker 1: the Statement of Offense first page, Muller declares the theft

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01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: of campaign related emails and other documents was by the

1524
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Russian government's main intelligence directorate of the General Staff, the GRU.

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01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 1: So Muller declares, this was the theft was bought. Okay,

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01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: let's say that's true, but that that doesn't mean that's

1527
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: where they got it from. And if the Russians gave

1528
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 1: it to Wiki leaks and Jerome Corsi and others, including yourself,

1529
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: try to find out information in details about that. You're

1530
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: not committing a crime. The gr You committed a crime,

1531
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: but nobody else did. All right, Listen, you guys are

1532
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 1: both fascinating. I mean, this really is getting interesting to me,

1533
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: and it seems like there is there's a certain desperation

1534
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: to this that I think is going to be revealed

1535
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: in pretty short order. We'll find out. Andy McCarthy, thank you,

1536
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett, thank you. We appreciate you guys spending the

1537
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: extra time with US eight hundred nine for one. Shaun

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Speaker 1: told free telephone number. You want to be a part

1539
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: of the program. Our friend Congressman Louis Gormer to Texas

1540
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: their first congressional district. What what percentage of the vote

1541
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: did you got this time? It was only about seventy two,

1542
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: seventy three, seventy two seven. I'm never campaigning for you again.

1543
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: You don't need me ever, King, it would have been

1544
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: a lot worse without you, Sean, Are you kidding? Can

1545
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 1: I say one thing about Mueller mower investigation? We got

1546
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: senators say the more investigation you got to be protected. Look,

1547
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: let me go on record, the Mueller investigation has got

1548
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: to be protected at all costs. I've been saying Muller

1549
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: needed to be investigated for years now, and if there's

1550
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 1: an investigation of Moller, it needs to be protected. This

1551
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: guy's dirty. He needs to be investigated. That's the mower

1552
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: investigation that needs Well, that's not gonna happen. But you know,

1553
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: we are talking about a lot of different things here.

1554
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, um. Now, you have a

1555
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: plan that's going to allow Congress to pay for the

1556
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 1: border wall through a reconciliation bill that would be in

1557
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 1: the House and Senate can do it with fifty one

1558
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 1: votes in the Senate. Yeah, or even fifty votes because

1559
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 1: then we have a president that would break it. For

1560
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: the president and you know what, in September we were told, look,

1561
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: let's don't have a fight to the wall. Now, let's

1562
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: come back in December and do it then. And now

1563
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: there is no fight. And I got up today at

1564
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: conference and I was saying, look, guys, you said you

1565
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: were wanted to fight in December. Now is the time

1566
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: to fight. We only have a couple of months. And Sean,

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01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: you had been so proud of the members that stood

1568
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 1: up and said, hey, I've been defeated, but I'm willing

1569
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 1: to stay here every day. I'd like to have Christmas

1570
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: Day itself, but I would stay here every day. People

1571
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 1: are willing to fight. Rank and file are willing to fight.

1572
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: And Paul says, well, the Senate doesn't have the votes.

1573
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: We can do it through reconciliation. Brad Burn has the bill.

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01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: Is called a fifty vote for a wall bill because

1575
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to have sixty, and it could be done.

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01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,719
Speaker 1: Paul's been chairman of Budget Committee, he has done it before.

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01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 1: He knows how it's done. Well, they don't have the

1578
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: votes in the Senate. Look, we have got to have

1579
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: people right up the Senate, right up the House members

1580
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: saying look, you got two months help the president. You

1581
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: didn't help him enough before. Now you got a chance

1582
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: before you go out help the president. We got a

1583
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: lot people up because the fight is in a lot

1584
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 1: of members, Republican members here just not Why are they

1585
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 1: afraid to have this fight ever? I mean, this is it?

1586
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: Get it? I don't get it. It's if we don't

1587
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: have this fight, they may want Mitt Rodney for president

1588
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: next time. There will not be another Republican president if

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01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: we don't do what we need to do to help

1590
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 1: Donald Trump protect our border, protect our country, not to

1591
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: stop immigration, but make sure it's legal. He's doing what

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01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 1: he can. That's why his voters will come out in

1593
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But we can do this is through the

1594
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 1: Reconciliation prod. And the Democrats can stop it. We have

1595
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: the votes. What has Mitch McConnell said about it. Well,

1596
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I haven't heard from Mitch, but I've heard from Paul

1597
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 1: and Kevin. Their position as well. The Senate says they

1598
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: don't have the votes. Well maybe they don't have Jeff Flake,

1599
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,839
Speaker 1: but we could get fifty votes if there's enough pressure

1600
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 1: brought to bear on what's going to happen next year

1601
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: If they don't help out and get this done for

1602
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: a while where we need it. I mean, we have

1603
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:14,680
Speaker 1: slapped the president in effects figuratively speaking, it's time we

1604
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 1: can do this now. And thank you for your fight.

1605
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 1: This is a desperate time and I don't normally get

1606
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: applause at conference, but when I said, guys, this little

1607
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 1: experiment in self government is very in grave danger of

1608
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: coming to an end. Let's fight. Let's spend these next

1609
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 1: two months helping the president. And I got a bunch

1610
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: of applause. People are ready to fight, but the leadership

1611
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: is not. They just said I'm gonna get Kevin McCarthy

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1613
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: him about it, because he's the guy that can make

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Speaker 1: new listeners, I think you need to add, look, you

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Speaker 1: have a good relationship with the president. Wanted you to

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Speaker 1: have the President called Mitch McConnell and push him. Well,

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Speaker 1: and that's the thing. If the House will do our job,

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Speaker 1: then the president has incredible leverage against my Senate to

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Speaker 1: get it done. But if we don't even fight to

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