1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Here we go, it is a Tuesday. We are ready 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: to roll. Oh, I've been in better moods. Mariners have 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: a way of doing that. Seattle's sports teams have a 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: way of doing that. Greg Olsen, Nick Wright both stop 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: in the Herd hierarchy. 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: One hour from now. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Jmac Baker, Mayfield and the Buccaneers had been tempting fate 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: for weeks and let's just say that it's a dangerous 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: place to live in the NFL. So Tampa Bay come 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: from behind wins despite a five and two record, they 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: have the same point differential as two and five Arizona. 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: And last night Tampa from the first series by the 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Lions got punched in the mouth Detroit's offensive line and 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs. They had a different level of energy and 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: they control the game. And I mean they're deep and 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: they're talented and Jamier Gibbs remember when he was picked 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: in the first round and everybody's like, you can't pick 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: a running back then, I mean, Tampa's fun, they're feisty, 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: they've got experience, they're exciting, and Baker Mayfield's a perfect fit. 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: But that roulette style of football does not work long term. 28 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: They had fifty eight total yards in the first half 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: and we're lucky to be in the game midway through 30 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: the second quarter. 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: And here's the thing about Detroit. 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Between their talent, Brad Holmes upstairs a great g and 33 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's ted Lasso positivity. Let's be honest, Dan Campbell 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: is ted Lasso. If ted Lasso benched about three hundred 35 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 1: and seventy five pounds. And between that talent and Dan Campbell, 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: they are a monster at home. They should organizationally request 37 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl there across their fingers they get in. 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was fighting uphill all night long. And here's 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: the thing. The secondary for the Lions has been banged up. 40 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: It seems like for years they lost both coordinators, and 41 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: yet Baker Mayfield was the most uncomfortable he had been 42 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: all season long. He looked cooked, zero for nine throwing 43 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: the ball down the field, and that's what Baker has 44 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: lived on. And coming from behind is what Baker has 45 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: lived on. And they didn't like the calls they got 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: and Detroit's defensive line dominated Tampa up front. Lions are 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: now number two in the NFL and point differential unbelievable, 48 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: three and zero at home, and once again, Campbell's culture 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: building ted lasso with biceps energy on display on Monday 50 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Night Football where they've on five straight standalone games. Here's 51 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell after we got. 52 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: A special group. We got a special group of coaches 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: and players. I just think we're we're they're competitive, they 54 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: want to win. They're able to really focus on what 55 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: needs to be fixed. Don't lose confidence, just fix it. 56 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 4: And I think that's where our guys are really special. Man. 57 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: We just go to work, we fix it. They've always 58 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: been that way. And then the lights come on, man, 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: and guys show up. 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: Yep, they did. 61 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, I thought he was, I'll be honest, kind 62 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: of a meathead, biting kneecaps in his first press conference 63 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: in the history of Colin Wright, Colin wrong. This is 64 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: probably the most wrong I've ever been. He is literally 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: as Baker Mayfield is a perfect fit for Tampa. Dan 66 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Campbell should be the Lions head coach forever. He is 67 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: a home run and I'm telling you you get him 68 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: at home on a fast track. Nobody's touching him well. 69 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: Last night was. 70 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: The American League Championship Series. And when I was a 71 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: little kid, the Mariners arrived in the mid to late 72 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: seventies in Seattle. I was at the very first game, 73 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: and I can recite J mack knows. This the entire 74 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: roster from Rupert two P. Jones to Craig Reynolds, to 75 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Bruce Balkte, eventually Danny Meyer, Bill Stein, Bobstin, Bob Stinson 76 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: opening picture, Diego Saghee. This was my team, Lee Stanton, 77 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: Leon Roberts. This was my team when I was a 78 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: little kid, twelve thirteen, fourteen years old, right fall in 79 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: love with baseball. I'd fall in love with a big 80 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: red machine. And then they got a little old and 81 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: here came the Mariners and last night Game seven an 82 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: ALCS and it was going so great for the Mariners. 83 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez and Cal Raley, they were at the top 84 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: of the order. Julio Rodriguez, how about that a double 85 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: and a home run in his first two at bats. 86 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: He's been in Seattle for years, three or four years. 87 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: An All star, always delivers the big dumper. Cal Rally 88 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: was in the MVP race, also homered in the fifth. 89 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: Seattle led three to one. They're great with the lead, 90 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: always great with the lead because they have so many 91 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: arms and so much flexibility in the bullpen. And when 92 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: cal Raley homers. The Mariners are forty one and thirteen 93 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: this year. They were leading three to one heading into 94 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: the seventh. George Kirby Brian wu had done a solid 95 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: job to keep that Blue Jays batting order in check. 96 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: Felt so good, this was going to be a special 97 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: night for Seattle Sports. 98 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: Hoist that trident. 99 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: And then at the bottom of the seventh, the Jay's 100 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: got a couple of guys on. There's a base open, 101 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: and George Springer was stepping out. Now, George Springer, his 102 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: entire career has been he hits bombs in the playoffs, 103 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: a World Series MVP for Houston. Now he's in Toronto 104 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: and he just hits bombs all the time. And Dan Wilson, 105 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: the former Mariner catcher, very good defensive catcher and a 106 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: good skipper, right, and he decides and nobody in Seattle 107 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: agreed with this because I was watching. And if you're 108 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: from the Northwest, you were watching and you were saying, 109 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: you don't pitch to George Springer. 110 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: Don't do that. Put him on, take your chances. 111 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: And Dan Wilson decided to pitch to Major League Baseball 112 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: veteran George Springer. And here's what happened next. Two pitch 113 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: Hi l Field Hoaza, what does it go? 114 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 115 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: That was super awesome. Congrats to the Blue Jays. Super cool. 116 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: Another Seattle sports moment on the doorstep of history, and 117 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: it's locked. Why pitch to George Springer? Why are you 118 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: waiting to put in Moonho's your elite closer? What in 119 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: the name of whiffs are we talking about? This had 120 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: a refuse to give the ball the Marshawn Lynch at 121 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: the doorstep super Bowl field to it? 122 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: Did it not? 123 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: This had a let's throw from the two feel to 124 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: it afterwards, here's Mariner skipper, Dan Wilson. 125 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 5: You make your decisions and and you know, sometimes you know, 126 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 5: you have to live and die with it. And uh, 127 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: you know, I think again the wayz Arto has throw 128 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: the ball all season long. We were comfortable with where 129 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: we were and you know, uh. 130 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: It just again didn't didn't go our way. 131 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm super happy for Toronto, super happy. But if 132 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: you're from the Pacific Northwest, this had an extra sting 133 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: to it. If you're from Portland, it felt a little 134 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: bit like that Laker Blazer series Game seven Kobe Shack 135 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: the alley oop. Even though the Blazers had controlled long 136 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: stretches in the series. It felt like that interception by 137 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson at the two yard line at the end zone. Eventually, 138 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: Butler with a play wide pitch to George Springer. But hey, 139 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: there's always next year. The Trident thing was fun. Dodgers 140 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Blue Jays World Series. The Dodgers will be seeking a dynasty. 141 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: The Big Red Machine in the mid seventies won two championships. 142 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: I had not a third. That didn't win until like 143 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety it was considered a dynasty. Baseball has that 144 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: kind of unique feel to it. Hard to win three 145 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: straight with arm injuries and pitching staffs and ligaments and elbows. 146 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: So the Dodgers are seeking a dynasty and the Blue 147 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: Jays are seeking relevance. Respect what has, so here we 148 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: are jmc nick wright one hour heard Hierarchy one hour 149 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: it was. I sat there and watched it, and I thought, 150 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: when you grow up in the Pacific Northwest. No, the 151 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: Howski's won a national championship. Seahawks did win a Super Bowl, 152 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: blowing out Dead Bring that Super Bowl, Peyton Manning. Remember 153 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: that the Seattle super Sonics won it. The Blazers won 154 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: it back in the seventies. 155 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 6: Seventies. 156 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Okay, the Bill Walton teams and the Gus Williams DJ 157 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: Jacksigma teams. 158 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: There have been times. There have been moments few and 159 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: far between. 160 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: But listen, I did think whoever was going to go 161 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: against the Dodgers. I thought the Mariners pitching could make 162 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: it an interesting series against the Dodgers, although La is 163 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: going to be a massive favorite. So if somebody's got 164 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: to be in. Congrats to our friends, our neighbors, our 165 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: friendly neighbors to the north of Canada. 166 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 6: Well, you and I like Canada. 167 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 7: I don't know if Canada feels the same way about. 168 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 6: America right now. 169 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 7: But that being said, Colin, I was going to text 170 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 7: you last night when Springer went yard, but I decided 171 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 7: it probably would have been too much, you know, like 172 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 7: thoughts and prayers, one of those deals. Yeah, yeah, that's 173 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 7: a tough one for you, man. Listen, I wouldn't know 174 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 7: that how it feels as a Jets fan. We haven't 175 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 7: been close to anything, you know, since in like fifteen years. 176 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 6: But that's a tough one. But I'll go Dodgers in five. 177 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Dodgers have extinguished the Reds quickly. 178 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: The Phillies surprisingly quickly swept the Brewers, which did anybody 179 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: predict that? So they'll be the favorite. Say this for 180 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. You get to the top of that order. Man, 181 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: they just remember this. Look how they extinguished so quickly 182 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: the Yankees. So it's like not a surprise. They were 183 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: a good team all year. Yeah, I'm really happy for him. 184 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 7: You couldn't be more elated, you sir, sound like it, Colin. 185 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of stuff going on today. We got 186 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. We got Nick Wright in one 187 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: hour of The Herd Hierarchy. 188 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 189 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 190 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 191 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 8: Hey it's me Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB 192 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 8: podcast Inside the Parker for twenty two minutes of piping 193 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 8: hot baseball talk featuring the biggest names the newsmakers in 194 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 8: the sport. Whether you believe in analytics or the I Test, 195 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 8: We've got all the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, 196 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 8: So do yourself a favor and listen to Inside the 197 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 8: Parker with Rob Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 198 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 8: you get your podcast. 199 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, the first few weeks of football are beautiful 200 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: out September early October. The field is green, the air 201 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: is crisp and clean, smells like late summer and early fall. 202 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: And then one morning you. 203 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Walk out on the driveway, you trip and fall on 204 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: the ice. You dent your yetti coffee mug. That morning 205 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: happened to the Seahawks last night. It's officially late October. 206 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: That was ugly. No longer September fifteenth, warm air, Chris feeling. 207 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: That was awful. 208 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold was inconsistent, total giveaways, twelve penalties. They called 209 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: a dumb trick play Cooper Cup throwing the ball the 210 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: good news their defensive line. Seattle defensive line for three 211 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: and a half hours, man to man dominated Houston. 212 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: I feel bad for CJ. Stroud. CJ. 213 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: Stroud sits in the pocket, throws a beautiful ball. He's 214 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: under total duress. They can't get the offensive line right, 215 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: and Seattle's defensive front dominated. But Seattle was up fifteen 216 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: points at home in the fourth quarter, and what falled 217 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: was a punt, a fumble, an interception, and a punt. 218 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: So the you know what Seattle's trying to do. They 219 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: lead the NFL in rush attempts. They want to be 220 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: a rush and a play action pass team, but they 221 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: also lead the NFL in giveaways. Last night they had 222 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: four and they are just two mistake prone at this 223 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: point to be an excellent team. They're a good team, 224 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: but they should have won last night thirty three to six. 225 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: A Donald fumble, a Donald pick late in the fourth quarter. 226 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: The only thing, if you look at it this year, 227 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: they should be seven and oh, but Donald had the 228 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: fumble against the Niners, and then Donald had a late 229 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: pick in the game. 230 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: Otherwise they're seven. 231 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: And oh and I love Sam, but reckless is what 232 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: not only Donald's history is, it's what Seattle feels like now. 233 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: So I mean, Denver has back to back ugly wins, 234 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: it's a skill. 235 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: I will give Seattle credit. 236 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: They played very poorly, especially in the second half, and won. 237 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: And I don't think Houston's bad, I really do. I 238 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: think Houston's got good players. They're just so bad on 239 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line that they can't create they can't keep 240 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: the defense off the field, they can't create long, consistent, 241 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: sustained drives because they. 242 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: Get manhandled up front. 243 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: And here was Sam Donald often atrocious looking win. 244 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 7: You know. 245 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 9: Obviously, I think the first half, you know, was really 246 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 9: solid for us as an offense, you know, and then 247 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 9: the second half it was just a different story, you know. 248 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 9: And I think, you know, we just got to hold 249 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 9: onto the football, you know, having a game like that 250 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 9: offensively and you still win the ballgame. 251 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: Can't ask for more than that. 252 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 9: And you know, we're just going to continue to learn 253 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 9: from from our mistakes and get better. 254 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Hey, last year, Kansas City was eleven to zero one 255 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: score games, and eight or nine of them they looked 256 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: like the losing team. 257 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: Denver. 258 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: This year Jets Giants out played in stretches by both 259 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean that, I mean at least the Giants outplayed 260 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: him for three quarters. So there is a skill to 261 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: playing poorly and winning, and Seattle illustrated that last night. 262 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: That was a great example. It saved what would have 263 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: otherwise been a disastrous night in the Pacific Northwest. I'll 264 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: tell you JSN Ohio state wide receivers, and they got 265 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: another couple in college right now. I mean, have you 266 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: watched Ohio State beat Wisconsin this weekend? They got nothing 267 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: but star five star receivers. JSN is a stud coming 268 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: into the season. We don't we don't know if he's 269 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: a nonumber one receiver right like he is, and he's 270 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: one of the better ones. So he and Darnald look 271 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: like they've been playing together for fifteen years. So I'll 272 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: give Seattle credit. Donald had some experience in Minnesota. This 273 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: is the second youngest offense, and like Green Bay, which 274 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: has the youngest offense, it can be a little, you know, 275 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: a little uneven. Seattle can be really uneven. But they're 276 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: a Donald fumble and a Donald pick away from being 277 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: seven to zero. So you got to iron those wrinkles out. 278 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: But a win's a win. 279 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: J Mack with a. 280 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: News no, no, turn on the news. This is the 281 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: Herdline News. 282 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 7: All right, Colin, we're on to week eight and we're 283 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 7: gonna go to Green Bay and Pittsburgh. The most anticipated 284 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 7: matchup of the weekend Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. First 285 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 7: time Rodgers will face his former team, the Packers. Everyone 286 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 7: will be talking about the matchup, but Matt Lafleur isn't 287 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 7: stressing the significance of his. 288 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 10: Return in the Pittsburgh Steelers, who happen to have Aaron Rodgers. 289 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 10: I mean, it's as simple as that. That is for 290 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 10: you guys to talk about. Granted, I mean we've got 291 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 10: a lot of respect and love for Aaron. I mean 292 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 10: what he's done here. This game is not about that. 293 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 10: It's about going to Pittsburgh Sunday night football. Our guys 294 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 10: will be jacked up. Their guys will be jacked up. 295 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 10: It's about the Green Bay Packers versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. 296 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 10: And that's for you guys to talk about. 297 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 7: You know. 298 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: I actually, I actually think Pittsburgh. This is a good 299 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: spot for Pittsburgh really. 300 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, they go on Thursday night football. 302 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: They're a little humiliated. Tomlin has struggled on Thursday night football, 303 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: so they go play the Bengals. The defense gets humiliated 304 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: by Joe Flacco, so they're going to be in a 305 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: bad mood. They're at home where they're a better team. 306 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin has always been a great underdog coach there. 307 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: And the Packers are playing with their food a little bit. 308 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: You know, they've been in close games. Packers are the 309 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: better team, but they you know, I think everybody feels 310 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: the same way about the Packers, including their fans. You 311 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: feel like they leave you wanting more, like they're good. 312 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: Shouldn't they be really, really really good. I mean, they 313 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: open up crushing Detroit and I thought, that's that's the 314 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: best team in the league, and they haven't been able 315 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: to really give you that feeling since. I think Pittsburgh 316 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: and Aaron keep it really close. I always love when 317 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: teams that are very prideful like lose to a bad 318 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: team the following week, watch out like I love Detroit 319 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: last night, but they lost to Kansas City. I think 320 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: Tampa being humiliated. Next week watched Tampa play one of 321 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: their most focused games of the year. So when a 322 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: team gets humiliated or they lose to a team they 323 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: should beat, like the Steelers losing to the Bengals on 324 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night, watch Pittsburgh be inspired and give green Bay 325 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: everything they can handle. 326 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 6: Interesting, So at three and a half, you lean. 327 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: Highlight Pittsburgh is one of my second or third favorite 328 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: bets of the week. 329 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 6: So here's the thing about the Packers. You touched on it. 330 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 7: So that day they beat the Lions in the opener, impressive. 331 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 7: Then they beat Washington on Thursday, and everybody me, you, 332 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 7: everyone who watches football, crowned them as the best team 333 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 7: in the NFC. Right, you beat the two NFC powers 334 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 7: from last year. Since then, they have not covered the 335 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 7: spread in any games column. 336 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 6: They lost to Cleveland, tig. 337 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 7: Dallas, messed around with the Bengals, didn't cover, and then 338 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 7: last week didn't. So is it that they were kind 339 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 7: of feeling themselves after those first two wins and they 340 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 7: haven't locked in though. 341 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I Mean, I think Green Bay and Seattle are the 342 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: two youngest offenses, and now I think Seattle is much 343 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: more turnover prone than Green Bay is. But the similarity 344 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: between Green Bay and Seattle's offenses really explosive, really good teams, 345 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: but they make a lot of mistakes. Seattle makes a 346 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: ton of mistakes, and I think Green Bay is just 347 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: one of those teams where they leave you wanting more. Now, 348 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: Green Bay's had some injuries, but they're both really good teams. 349 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: I would take Green Bay over Seattle right now. I 350 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: had Seattle in the hurd hierarchy and I took them 351 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: out this morning after that ugly performance last night. 352 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 6: Really wow, harsh, I don't have anything on this. 353 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 7: I kind of want to go counterintuitive and go Packers 354 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 7: at three and a half, but that could be foolish. Well, 355 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 7: we'll talk about it all week for sure. Let's move 356 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 7: on to the Dallas Cowboys Colin. They are starting to 357 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 7: get spicy. Big blowout over Washington. Offense is looking like 358 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 7: one of the most dangerous units in the league. Dallas 359 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 7: ranks among the top teams in points and yards per game, 360 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 7: and Dak says things can only get better. 361 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 11: Confidence is earned. You don't just wake up and say, yeah, 362 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 11: I know I can do this. No, no, no, you 363 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 11: got to go do that, prove it to yourself, and then, 364 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 11: you know what I'm saying, you feel good about talking about. 365 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 2: It and walking the walk. 366 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 11: So this this group practices the right way and they've 367 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 11: earned the confidence and they go out there and we 368 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 11: play with it and it's fun. It really is fun. 369 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 11: Who knows what we can accomplish like this guy is 370 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 11: the lemon. We're just going to stay focused each and 371 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 11: every day at getting better. 372 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: Uh. 373 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: This is a really good game. 374 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 7: This Dallas offense, which is elite increased this season against 375 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 7: the Denver defense, which we been hearing is elite. Yeah, 376 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 7: but the results don't match the hype. I mean, Jackson 377 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 7: Dart went up and down the field against him. I 378 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 7: look at earlier this season, Daniel Jones cooked them. I mean, 379 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 7: other than you know, walloping, Jake Browning and Justin Fields Colin. 380 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 6: Is this Denver defense that good? Or is it in 381 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 6: name only? 382 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: It's my favorite game of the weekend. 383 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: Affordable defense, the best offense, two quarterbacks who are newsworthy. 384 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: It's my favorite game of the weekend. 385 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't have a side yet, but in terms of 386 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: wanting to watch it, I think it's really really entertaining. 387 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 6: Who do you get the. 388 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 7: Edge to the Dallas offense which has Pickens and Lamback well, 389 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 7: by the way, Lamb. 390 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: When I saw initially the line was three, my take was, 391 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: I you know, I always guess the line in my 392 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: head before I see it, and I thought it would 393 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: be Denver minus four. So when it was Denver minus three, 394 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: My take was Broncos are the side, the slight side. 395 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: So it's moved up to three and a half at 396 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: least I saw it three initially. So yeah, I feel Denver. 397 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, when a team is a four point favorite, 398 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: I almost always take the favorite. Vegas doesn't want to 399 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: make anybody a four point favorite. They want it to 400 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: be three and when they have to give up that 401 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: extra point. So I think if this moves up to four, 402 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: then Denver's really my side. 403 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 7: So Dallas on the road this season, ready lost at 404 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 7: the Eagles, lost at the Bears, beat the Jets, which 405 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 7: kind of doesn't even count, lost at the Panthers, So 406 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 7: you go away from the fast track indoors at Jerry 407 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 7: World Outdoors. 408 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 6: And they have not been as good. 409 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: So I think I know. 410 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: All I know is if Dallas wins this thing, they 411 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: get Arizona at home buy in the Raiders. So I mean, 412 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: you come out of this weekend four three and one 413 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals by Raiders, you are in a really interesting situation. 414 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 7: Well, Dallas in Chicago, no Joe could be fighting for 415 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 7: that a wild cards podcat and Chicago actually has the 416 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 7: tie breaker. All right, final story, let's go to this. 417 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 7: I'm stunned by this news. Lamar Jackson is still not 418 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 7: practicing what I was ready to are the Ravens in 419 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 7: this spot against the Bears. The market has set Baltimore 420 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 7: as a six and a half point favorite. Yep. I'm 421 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 7: absolutely floored that Lamar, who hasn't played in two. 422 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 6: Games and had a bye week, did. 423 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 7: Not practice yesterday and we don't know if he's practicing today. 424 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: That line tells you the respect for John Harbaugh off 425 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: of bye. 426 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's fourteen and three off of bye. I just 427 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 7: looked that up. But Baltimore reminder one in five now 428 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 7: Roquan Smith expected back. 429 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 6: I don't care. I need to know if Lamar's playing 430 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 6: or not. I mean, yeah, okay. 431 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: I think what the odds makers are telling you is 432 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: that Baltimore has to go on about a five game 433 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: winning streak and John Harbaugh off of bye. This team 434 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: is going to play with its hair on fire. This 435 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: is not a good spot for the Bears, who have 436 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: been winning ugly for four weeks. And it feels like 437 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: to me this is this is a bad spot for 438 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: the Bears and the Ravens. They have no breathing room. 439 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: They have to win five straight games. Yeah, they have 440 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: to look up and have a five game winning streak 441 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: or they're like out of the running because Pittsburgh is 442 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: going to end up. You know, Tomlin's gonna end up 443 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: with a winning record because he always does. 444 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: So you got to get to a positive record to 445 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: get into the playoffs. 446 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 7: How's this scenario, Ravens win and uh, the Steelers lose 447 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 7: to the Green Bay Packers and oh, by the way, 448 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 7: Baltimore still has two against the Steelers left. I don't 449 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 7: think it's over one of the smart bets. Would you 450 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 7: do this, Colin? Bet the Ravens to win the division? 451 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: I think it's good. I think it's an interesting bet. 452 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, this weekend is a big swing. Now, if Lamar 453 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 7: is not playing, I'm not touching it. But I do 454 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 7: believe Lamar. He's got to play a hamstring. 455 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 6: For three weeks. I thought this guy was a young, 456 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 6: extraordinary athlete. He can't get them kick him back for. 457 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: A freaking hamstring. Come on, j Maack with the news. 458 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 459 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: herd Line News. 460 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: So the NBA season starts tonight. I will give you 461 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: my five bold predictions after the commercial. But I want 462 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: to touch on this. So NBA writer Yarren Weizman has 463 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: a new book it's called The Hollywood Ending, The Dreams 464 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: and Drama of the Lebron Lakers, And in the book, 465 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: Westbrook is very critical of Lebron James. He shouldered a 466 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: lot of the blame when he joined the Lakers and 467 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: they struggled. Basically, he calls out Lebron James for being 468 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: a phony. And so Russell Westbrook is runs hot. He's 469 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: very intense, he's highly emotional. He always feels, how can 470 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: I put this kind of slided? But he's no phony. 471 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: Westbrook is as real as it gets. I think, in fact, 472 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: I would argue Westbrook in his career has been real 473 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: to a fault. He would have benefited greatly sometimes being 474 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a politician and a little 475 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: bit less emotional and outburst capable, even with fans. Someone 476 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: pretty close to Lebron's circle told me one time, Westbrook 477 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: hates everybody. 478 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's. 479 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: True, but Lebron is a very rare athlete globally, he's 480 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: a billionaire. He's in that Michael Tiger rinaldo O Tawny space. 481 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: And I think a fair criticism of Lebron and maybe 482 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: if I was Lebron, I'd be in this space too, 483 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: is that he's hyper aware of his brand and is 484 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: largely at this point protecting it for he and his family. 485 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: So sometimes he comes across a little bit insincere, a 486 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: little more aware of every tweet, that he's seeking popularity 487 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: and brand protection, and that it's kind of phony and 488 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of insincere. I've heard that criticism one hundred 489 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: times about Lebron, But again, if you go back and 490 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: look at this whole relationship, it should have never been fostered. 491 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: It should have never happened. 492 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook is literally the opposite personality of Lebron James. 493 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: It was never gonna work. He's a trapeze artist. You're 494 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: not quite sure with Westbrook what's coming next. And Lebron 495 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: is more consultant from a distance, not gonna put his 496 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: toe in the water unless he knows it's safe. And 497 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: these two were never gonna work. One is pretty easy 498 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: to play with in terms of mobimost there. 499 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: Every start that's played with Lebron has been good. 500 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 4: Right. 501 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: It felt like he kind of salvaged Jr. Smith's career. Jr. 502 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: Smith in New York was kind of out of sorts, 503 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: and he goes to Cleveland. He plays with Lebron, and 504 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody loves Jr. Smith And he 505 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: got to a final with Matthew della Vedova and everybody 506 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: was out on Kyrie and then he fixed the Kyrie 507 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: thing in Cleveland, and eventually they didn't work. But I mean, 508 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: Lebron's made everything kind of work. Plays with a Deep 509 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: played with Wade, played with Bosh, played with Kyrie, played 510 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: with Kevin Love. He kind of plays with everybody. Westbrook 511 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: struggles to play with anybody. But to Westbrook's credit, he's sincere, 512 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: he's honest, He's loyal as the day is long to 513 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: the people that are close to him, and I know 514 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: people that love Westbrook. He just runs hot and Lebron 515 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: doesn't allow. I mean, I've always said it's very interesting 516 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: Lebron's never gotten into a fight in the NBA. One 517 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: of the biggest, strongest guys, he never got into a fight. 518 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Michael Jordan punched teammates. I mean, 519 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: just different personalities. So I just I think Lebron's a 520 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: very measured, calculated brand, protecting global Superstar and Westbrook. What 521 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: you see is what you get, and this puppy was 522 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: never gonna work. Ever, some dudes are never meant to 523 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: be roommates, right, I mean, you could have buddies in college, 524 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: you're like somebody's a partier, you're a serious student. 525 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: You can be friends. You're not meant to live together. 526 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: And Westbrook and Lebron, had the Lakers really really thought 527 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: about it, should have never happened. Deal should have never happened. 528 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to blame Westbrook or Lebron. 529 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: I'll have my five bold NBA predictions Colin Herd Hierarchy, 530 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: Top of the Hour, plus Nick Right, Greg Olsen two. 531 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 532 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: and noon Eastern non am Pacific. 533 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 7: All eyes turn to Big Noon for a make or 534 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 7: break clash. Undefeated Indiana number two for the first time 535 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 7: in program history, takes on Ucla, who looks to shock. 536 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 6: The Big ten. 537 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 7: It all starts with Big Noon kickoff at ten am Eastern, 538 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 7: live from Bloomington. Then it's Ucla Indiana Holy on Fox. 539 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ucla as shocking, shocking what they've done. So The 540 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: NBA season starts tonight the West has completely separated from 541 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: the East. The West, the top four to five teams 542 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: in the West arguably are better than the best team 543 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: in the East. Now, Jason Tatum comes back and plays 544 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: this year, most doubted, I wouldn't be shocked in game 545 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: sixty five or something. I mean, all these pro athletes 546 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: in their prime physically get healthier faster than we predict. 547 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: If Jason Tatum came back, then I think Boston's a 548 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: top four team in the league. Maybe top three Nicks aren't. 549 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: But I thought, let's just put it out there. These 550 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: are my five bold NBA predictions. I hit in a 551 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: couple last year, missed in a couple. 552 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: Number one. 553 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: OKC, despite the fact they're an overwhelming favorite in the Desert, 554 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: will not win. They will not repeat as champions. The 555 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: West is too deep. Sga played ninety nine games last year, 556 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: second year in a row. 557 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: He doesn't miss games. 558 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Williams coming off an injury between Minnesota and Denver, 559 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: Between the Lakers and Dallas, I think the West is 560 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: too deep. I don't buy of the twenty six previous 561 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: teams to win sixty four plus games in a season, 562 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: twenty five won fewer games the following season, so I 563 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: don't think they'll get home court advantage, which I think 564 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: in the West matters because these teams you're on the 565 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: margins here, they're all very good. So number one okay 566 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: seed does not repeat. Number two. Luca wins his first 567 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: career MVP, So it's going to be a great story, 568 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: and part of winning MVP is the narrative. Skinny Luca 569 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: committed Luca. Lakers all in on Luca Lebron starting the 570 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: season in recovery. His ball usage will go back to 571 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: being number one in the league. Obviously, Austin Reeves is 572 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: never going to take the ball out of his hands 573 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: in big spaces. I think he's going to lead the 574 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: NBA in scoring. You know, he was a dunker, played 575 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: downhill early, got a little husky, only had one dunk 576 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: last year. I think the best Luca returns. He's motivated, 577 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers are all in. I think JJ Reddick is 578 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: an above average offensive coach. He'll get the ball to 579 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: him in the right spots. Luca becomes MVP. My surprise 580 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: team out West number three, Cooper Flag plays point guard 581 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: and Dallas makes the Western Conference final. Best front court 582 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: by a mile in the NBA, Derek Lively, Daniel Gafford, 583 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: A D Washington. They got great size. Kyrie Irving probably 584 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: probably comes back later in the year in his magic, 585 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: But I think Cooper Flag is gonna walk in when 586 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year going away. I just I think 587 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: this is one of those deals they fell apart last year. 588 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: I love their size. I don't think anybody defensively quite 589 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: can stack the size and length that Dallas can. I 590 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: don't know if they face the t Wolves in the 591 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: Western Conference finals, that would be my guess or Denver, 592 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not gonna be the Golden State 593 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: Warriors because my number four bold prediction the Warriors missed 594 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. It is the second oldest team in the end. 595 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, they had one playoff series went over 596 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: the last two years. They've been hobbled. They don't want 597 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: to give up Pods in a trade deal. They're willing 598 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: to give up Kaminga, But what are you going to 599 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: get for Kaminga? So my take is unless you go 600 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: all in on multiple draft picks, Pods and Kaminga, you're 601 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: not getting a star that can accompany Steph Curry and 602 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: Pods is what he is to this point in his career. 603 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: He's got a little Klay Thompson. But I mean, this 604 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: is an old team that brought in Al Horford. I 605 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: love Al Horford. That's not the answer. They just got 606 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: older and number five Orlando Magic. NBA Finals won't be. 607 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: The Knicks won't be, the Bucks won't be, the Sixers 608 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: will not be. The Cavs don't trust him. Last season 609 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: they had key injuries to Franz Wagner, Paulo Boncaro, Jalen Suggs. 610 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: They were a great number one scoring defense in the league. 611 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: They could not shoot threes. They bring in Desmond Vane 612 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: from Memphis, which I thought was a super smart move. 613 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: This is a you got a bunch of dudes entering 614 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: their prime. The East is weak and I like Orlando 615 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: a lot. Now again, they've been back to back first 616 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: round exits, but they bring in a veteran who can 617 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: hit threes. I think the East, I'm not sure the 618 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: East has been without Halliburton in Indiana and without Jason Tatum. 619 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: It is wide open. You can say what about the Knicks. 620 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunson are not good on 621 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: the floor. Together both suboptimal defensive players. They went from 622 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: TIBs to Mike Brown. Many think they won't be as 623 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: good coaching. I think the Knicks last year were a 624 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: wonderful story, but what have they done to elevate themselves? 625 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: And again, if you have Carl Anthony Towns. 626 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: Your second best offensive player on the floor, with Jalen 627 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: Brunson your lead offensive player, we know how that turns out. 628 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: You'll get eaten. The live teams will attack the pick 629 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: and roll. The best thing for the Knicks is Jason 630 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Ta him and Halliburton won't play. If they did, I 631 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: would think less of the next I'm on Orlando in 632 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: a very very weak Eastern Conference. 633 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: J Mac, I know you've got a thought. 634 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 6: You got some hot, hot takes. I love this. I 635 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 6: know we're happy the NBA is back. 636 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 7: Listen, you forgot the Nicks are going to be trading 637 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 7: for Giannis here by the trade deadline, so then Nick 638 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 7: will be fine in the East. I am curious this 639 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 7: OKC stuff. Are you surprised that there is no use 640 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 7: for okac all anybody's talking about in the eve of 641 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 7: the NBA season? 642 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: Oh? 643 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 7: Can you hear what Lebron said in that in that 644 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 7: meeting like four years ago in a book, like, nobody's 645 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 7: talking about SGA and Okac. 646 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 3: Nobody with you. 647 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: The new Adam Silver NBA is you can't stack too 648 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: many good players. Chet Holmgren so far has been a 649 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: bit injury prone. Jalen Williams is recovering from an injury. 650 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: SGA is like a pitcher that's pitched three hundred innings 651 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: in back to back years. And they brought everybody back 652 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: a few years ago Tampa on the Super Bowl, remember that, 653 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: And they brought everybody back. Yeah, and then the following 654 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: year there was this there was this idea, this sense 655 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't bring everybody back. You need a new 656 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: energy every year. You need a new energy. You need 657 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: to tweak and tweak and tweak. And I kind of 658 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: feel like the Knicks, they'll be the same team, same issues, 659 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: and people like Tims more than Mike Brown. I like Mike, 660 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: he's fine, and I kind of feel like with OKAC, 661 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: you'll be good, but they're not gonna have home court advantage. 662 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: I think Minnesota will be better and keeps getting better. 663 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers are probably gonna be better. I 664 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: mean JJ Reddick second year, Yes, I think Denver had 665 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: a ton of injuries last year. They'll be better. I 666 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: think Dallas can't be as beat up as last year. 667 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: Plus Kloper fact, So Dallas better, Minnesota better, Lakers better. 668 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: I think the West is just. I mean, I don't 669 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: think Golden State is going to make the playoffs. But 670 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: Golden State they're old. But Buddy healed and Steph and 671 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: Draymont and Horford and Pods and Kaminga, and I don't 672 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: think they'll make the playoff. They could be three seed 673 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: in the East, and that's possible. 674 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 7: You didn't mention once the team that I have winning 675 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 7: the NBA title, and that's the Houston Rockets, Kevin Durant, 676 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 7: Amen Thompson, Shingoon. 677 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 6: This team is stacked. 678 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 7: Did you see tonight? They're gonna be starting their starting 679 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 7: lineup as six, seven and up. Kevin Durant is gonna 680 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 7: play shooting guard. This is a new NBA. There's a 681 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 7: bunch of teams are going big now. The whole guard 682 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 7: era is kind of in the past. I think is 683 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 7: he a good takes Colin I like it. 684 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 6: I'm fired up. 685 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think Houston's gonna be fine. 686 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna win the West. I just 687 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: have Dallas in the Western Conference finals. Because usually this 688 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: is the way it works in sports, the media, myself included, 689 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: We pay attention to one thing and then something else happens, 690 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: and everybody's focused on Houston and Dallas is like, now, 691 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: we like our coach, we like our front line. We 692 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: can go big if Houston wants to go big. Kad 693 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: has a recent history of getting banged up. 694 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. I look at Dallas and nobody's attention. 695 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: First of all, you could argue the top six teams 696 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: in the league are all West. 697 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it is. 698 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: It is like the SEC five years ago, before like Oregon, Washington, USC, 699 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: UCLA joined the Pac twelve or joined the Big ten, 700 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: it was like there was the SEC and whoever was 701 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: second wasn't close. 702 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: Now it's very even. 703 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 7: But I like your Orlando call. That's that's kind of bold. 704 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 7: I like that a lot. 705 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 3: Right now, the team that added a shooter, we don't 706 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 3: really talk. 707 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 6: About them anymore. 708 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 7: I know you're out on this guy, Joel Embiid sixers 709 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 7: when they're healthy, and assuming they will be, they could 710 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 7: be dangerous only because there's no Boston or no Indiana 711 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 7: this year as factors giving the injuries, keep an eye 712 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 7: on the Sixers. 713 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 6: They've got some young guys. Colin your guy. 714 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 7: Tyrese Maxy, he was basically your your Jayden Daniels. Remember 715 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 7: you loved him, and I was like, Dad, plump the Brakes. 716 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 7: Terre's Maxie's a bowler, and they got some young guys. 717 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 7: I like the Sixers a little bit this year. 718 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny watching the Mariners last night and 719 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: if you watch Aaron Boone, Dave Roberts, Dan Wilson get 720 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: clobbered by the baseball the Seamheads. 721 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 3: And the truth is now. 722 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: Major league managers have been muted, even Aaron Boone and 723 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what his salary is, but Dave Roberts, 724 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: we pay college football coaches double what we pay major 725 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: league managers in major markets like Dodger, Astro, Atlanta, New 726 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: York markets. And so as I watch these managers, people 727 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: always complain about the managers. And it's always the same thing, 728 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: which is your two player friendly? You know you need 729 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: to pull the picture. It's always like when are you 730 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: pulling the picture? You have to be pro player as 731 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: a major league manager these days, you don't have the power. 732 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: You don't have the salary power. The owners are billionaires. 733 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: Now it's a rounding air to fire manager. You don't 734 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: have the salary power. The analytic crew upstairs gives you 735 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: the batting lineup and all the players know it. So 736 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: Dan Wilson last night, I think it's a legitimate criticize criticism. 737 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: Pitching to George Springer. I think that's the rare time 738 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: I would say that's a mistake. George Springer lives for 739 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: those moments. He's the last guy in the world you 740 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: wanted to face. But it is interesting all these managers. 741 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: We don't blame the players in baseball. We don't even 742 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: blame the pitchers. We blame the managers. Dan Wilson's taken 743 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: all the heat in Seattle today, a beloved former Mayrin. 744 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: It's not the guy who gives up the bomb, it's 745 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: the manager. And that's just what baseball is going forward.