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Speaker 1: Cowboys Talk coming to you right now. We'll dive into

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Speaker 1: Monday night later on. Dak Prescott is going to be

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Speaker 1: back and practice. Cowboy players off today so come Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: number four. He's with letting it rip before Philadelphia and

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Speaker 1: it looked good. So he was taking snaps under center.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow it's time to show improve. Hey, Coach Mike McCarthy said,

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Speaker 1: I need to see a full week from Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: They're getting ready to face the Detroit Lions Sunday in Arlington. Heckma,

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Speaker 1: this is good. This has got to be good news,

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Speaker 1: even for the Dak Hayters. It's gotta be good news

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Speaker 1: because four it's gonna out here. Man. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: I believe that everybody should be happy. And before I

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Speaker 1: go any further, I gotta say, uh, let's give Cooper Rush. Roundup, applause.

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Speaker 1: You know they gotta get gotta give Cooper Rush. It's

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Speaker 1: credit for everybody that think that there's Cooper Rush hate

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Speaker 1: in the water, it's not. Cooper Rush came out, he

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Speaker 1: did his thing. He did, he did his thing. We

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Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, man, about any team in the

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Speaker 1: NFL would want that back up to perform the way

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Speaker 1: that he did. But I think what happened is the

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Speaker 1: film got out on him. You know, you know how

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Speaker 1: it is. Don't catch hey. We know where you want

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Speaker 1: know where you're most comfortable on the field. Now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna stop all of that. And I think they did

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Speaker 1: a good job of changing the game, playing up for

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Speaker 1: him week by week, and then this week against against Philadelphia, Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: everything came to a head. They had to go deeper

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Speaker 1: into that bag and yeah, yeah, some of that just

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Speaker 1: you know, some of those throws just wasn't there. That

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Speaker 1: makes you appreciate those other guys in the league, the

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is that the Aaron Rodgers, the Tom Brady's other world.

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Speaker 1: But I know we're talking about dak Man and just

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Speaker 1: just hope one that Kellen Moore sticks to the script.

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Speaker 1: This running game is starting to look good. And I

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Speaker 1: do all the work without a doubt. And looked, you know, Dad,

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Speaker 1: Before I say that Da gives this team the best

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Speaker 1: So going back basically what you guys have said, your

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Speaker 1: message to Kelly Moore is keep running the football, please,

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Speaker 1: And if you're winning four games with Cooper Rush running

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Speaker 1: use his legs. Some stay where you are. Let's checking

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Speaker 1: out the recent power rankings. ESPN has a Cowboys six,

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Speaker 1: I know we've seen the three things of trust with Kellen.

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Speaker 1: He was able to prove that in you know, in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: when we needed that. But this got Jake Ferguson and

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Speaker 1: just checking him out from camp to being in the

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Speaker 1: game and his ability to maximize his opportunities. I'm like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: And so to me, like I agree with you, I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. It's hard for me to do that

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Speaker 1: certain things come from certain players that come from certain demographics.

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Speaker 1: You got a big team, an offensive linement. I think

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, God knows, a kid from Texas

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Speaker 1: it's just this component for Jake Ferguson. He can block,

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Speaker 1: to the cat. He got more wiggled than I thought.

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I think right there, even Shotz

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Speaker 1: That's a note for me. So yeah, that's for me,

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Speaker 1: would like to have three dynamic tight ends. Yeah, three

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Speaker 1: tight ends that could help, but they's definitely not get

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Speaker 1: He's not getting the franchise tacking. You know, they ten

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Speaker 1: point nine million dollars. That's that's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And look, somebody else may give it to him. But

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Speaker 1: coming off this knee and there's a lot of football

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Speaker 1: to go is just real interesting. But the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: in that position where they could decide to saying, you

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Speaker 1: So this is this is something that Lunda Wells deserves

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Speaker 1: sit up here, man, this tight end group is not

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Speaker 1: any good. I still believe sult could help them more

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Speaker 1: because he's more experienced, but you did not sit here

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Speaker 1: me go here guy, he's waiting to come out. So

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Speaker 1: so I don't know if fans can truly understand that.

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Speaker 1: And um, I am going to give myself a whole

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Speaker 1: that's a security bank dude who's happy in the Dalton

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Speaker 1: Shows like, yeah, you come back. Yeah, that conversation, he man,

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Speaker 1: that's that's why I always I said from the beginning

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Speaker 1: it's gonna help him get his money. But then it's

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Speaker 1: And like you said, this age old adage man that look, man,

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Speaker 1: Kase State Wildcats coming to town. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: boy ten, You see that a disrespectful is that's very disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh? All right, let's talk about this left guard

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Speaker 1: Peters played a couple of plays against the Eagles, and

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Speaker 1: but McGovern played a whole lot here. Mike McCarthy's starting

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Speaker 1: But all right, guys, left left guard, your thoughts, man,

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Speaker 1: this rotating back and forth. Like I never played offensive line,

635
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: but if you're rotating as a defensive back back there,

636
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: it's extremely hard to get the rhythm of the game.

637
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to get in there when every two series

638
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: you may have to take a break to let your

639
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: the other teammate get in there. So I can only

640
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: imagine what the offensive line it has to be around

641
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: the same there. You gotta get a feel of it.

642
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: You gotta feel the type of stunts they want to run.

643
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: What they want to run on third down? What's their

644
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: favorite blitz when they do go into a blitz package,

645
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: what does it look like? You know what a man

646
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: who am I expected to block? You know, you gotta

647
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: get a feel for it, not only the other team,

648
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: but your teammates next to you, Like, I gotta feel,

649
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: all right, this is his weakness over here, so I

650
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: gotta help him out over here, or this is my weakness.

651
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: Somebody got to make sure he can help me out

652
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: over here. When you're rotating like that back and forth,

653
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to get a feel for a game. So

654
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, to me, it doesn't matter you pick either

655
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: Peters or you pick mc government, but somebody has to

656
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: get picked and stick with that guy. Let him get

657
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: all sixty five reps or how many offensive reps you

658
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: decide to have out there, but start with this rotating stuff. Man,

659
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: It's just it ain't gonna work in a long ride.

660
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna work. And you know the thing that's

661
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: really the killer for me is man. You know, I

662
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: do a color analyst for high school games, college games,

663
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: and one of the things that I never see as

664
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: far as a rotation is concerned, is at the offensive

665
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: line position. I just don't. And the one team that

666
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: I saw that was rotating offensive lineman was Liberty University

667
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: coach you Malik willis Kyl, And I was calling that

668
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: game and they were rotating in and out offensive lineman

669
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: and almost got Malie taken out, okay, And I just

670
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: feel like this, like where you were talking about it,

671
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: and it's one comes down to one word continuity. And

672
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: if you don't have that continuity with your offensive line,

673
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: I think you're tinkering with something, especially at this level,

674
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: that I think could be dangerous. I don't see the

675
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: advantage of having Peters coming in and out. I think

676
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: he if you gonna put him in there, keep him

677
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: in there, keep him in there. Don't play with it.

678
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: But I think Karlor McGovern has shown you that he

679
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: is reliable. Obviously, the injury he had earlier, the high

680
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: ankle sprain, he's come back from that nicely. But I

681
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: think he's done some things on that offensive line that

682
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: you can count on. It has been awesome to have

683
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: Peters as that insurance policy. But I think you can

684
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: look at that certain times where he's in there it's like,

685
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: oh man, that whoa big fellow. That don't look good,

686
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, But he has had that one player, I

687
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: think one Zeke block that he had in the long

688
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: run for Zeke that everybody he pointed to. But look,

689
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: he's a great insurance policy. He's a swing tackle, swing

690
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: guard or whatever you want to classify a mask. But

691
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: I just think right now we're doing ourselves a disservice

692
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: by tinkering with that continuity. Would you sign McGovern to

693
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: a contract extension? This is his last year? Who? Man,

694
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: that's uh, without knowing what the who the man, I

695
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm gonna say, Andy McClay, I trust man,

696
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: will McClay. I've had to throw my hands up. I mean,

697
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: because look, it's not as though the thing that bothers

698
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: me now is that Connor Williams is going to Miami

699
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: and he's playing pretty solid, all right. That that bothers

700
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: me a little bit. Here's why. Okay, tell me why

701
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: it bothers you? Because I got I got a theory. Okay,

702
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: it bothers me to sink because we'd already we'd already

703
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: been talking about needing a center. Uh. And be honest,

704
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: maybe not or may or may not be in that

705
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: guy h. Connor Williams goes out to to Miami and

706
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: he fits the bill, and we never could get him

707
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: to be that player here, all right, even as I

708
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: guess it's serviceable or whatever he is, he wasn't here,

709
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: I think, right now, I think we would probably be

710
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: in the same situation if Connor Williams was here as

711
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: a left guard. I just don't think that he would

712
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: have done any worse than what we've seen. And I

713
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: had not a big Connor Williams fan at all, but

714
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: I think Philbin with guys like still with Tyler Smith,

715
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: he's done a wonderful job with those guys. Be honest,

716
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: She's playing a lot about I mean, how can you

717
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: not play good when you got Zack Martin to the

718
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: right of you, you know. But but it just seems

719
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: like to me Connor McGovern has been serviceable. It wouldn't

720
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: upset me if they signed him to another contract. But again,

721
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: we've just had this rotating thing going on and left

722
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: guard we just seemed like we hadn't figured this out.

723
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: And I'd like to say that we can, you know,

724
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: put that whole position to bed and we got a

725
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: guy for the future and going forward. Thick one the

726
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: interesting thing and Brian brought us spoke about it early

727
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: on the break a couple of weeks back, premium couple

728
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: of months back. But why didn't you have him playing

729
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: more there at the And I just had to believe

730
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: somewhere along the way between Joe Philbin and Mike McCarthy.

731
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: They have a liking of Tyler Biottish. I remember being

732
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: here Draft night when they took him out of Wisconsin.

733
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: McCarthy was very much into Tyler Biottish. I don't know

734
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: where they were trying to recreate the Travis Frederick Wisconsin deal,

735
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: but they had a lot They really liked the young man.

736
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see exactly what they do

737
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: after this season with the left guard spot and the

738
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: center spot. And I think this is going to be

739
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: a determining factor in the playoffs. Can you stop the

740
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: run and how do you run the football? And I

741
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be looking to the inside to make

742
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: improvements on both sides of the football right up the gun.

743
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting. But this may be

744
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to bring back Carter Williams, I mean,

745
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: Karnor McGovern on a favorable contract. How do you feel

746
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: about be honest, I mean, what are your thoughts about

747
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: beyondest so far? After the sample size you guys, I

748
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: would look for a yeah, I'm done with you there.

749
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: I think he's played a lot better than we've seen

750
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: in the past, because I remember there's games where I'm

751
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: looking like, oh man, he doesn't have enough bricks in

752
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: his pocket. Guys are just kind of running through him. Like, yeah,

753
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: he looked light out there. He's playing a little bit better.

754
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: But like I said, if i'm I'm on the same

755
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: page and knew as far as I would still look

756
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: for an upgrade on him. He's like, he's a good player,

757
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: good could play in this league. He's not a Pro

758
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: Bowl player, and that's what you need that center. You

759
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: would like to have a Pro Bowl player, especially considering

760
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: you had one for a number of years here, and boy,

761
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: it makes a difference. It makes a difference. No, And

762
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: I think, look, I just wanted to One of the

763
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: things that I hate is when we spend a lot

764
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: of time developing a guy and then we let him

765
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: go and he goes somewhere else and he ends up

766
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: in a player and I'm like, damn, we just had you. Yeah,

767
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: why hey, why couldn't you do that here? And I

768
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: don't know if coaching is the difference, so what it is?

769
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: You know? So I agree with you if if running

770
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: the ball is going to get us over the hump

771
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: and get us through those November and December, then I'm

772
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: all about it, you know. And furthermore, on the other

773
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: side of the ball, defensively, we have got to concentrate

774
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: on stopping the run. Like we are concentrating on running

775
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: the ball. We've got to concentrate on running the ball.

776
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: So there's some guys on the other side too that

777
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at the end of the season.

778
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Hey this, I mean, we're diagnosing everybody. Everybody got a

779
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: microscope under Let me ask you something. Heck, so when

780
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about defense, you know, stopping and running all that,

781
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: do you think it has a lot to do with

782
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: these guys getting a field too much, looking for that sack,

783
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: looking to make that big play each and every down

784
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: instead of just kind of hunkering in and all right

785
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: if it's a run play. I'm in my gap right now.

786
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm holding it down because I've seen a lot of

787
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: times it's like these guys, won't you know this defensive line,

788
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: they're flying up the field and they're running right back

789
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: the running back who's you know, going up that hey gap,

790
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: going up that B gap to have something to do

791
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: with it. I think also in my evaluation. It's been

792
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: We've done a lot of stunting, um and and it's

793
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: been I don't know if you've seen like two guys

794
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 1: trying to get through the same hole, you know, guys

795
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: running into it. We've seen Tanking and Micaul do that

796
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and maybe that may be the difference.

797
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: But then everybody trying to get in on the act

798
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: for the sacks also. Man, just going back to the

799
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: Philadelphia game, I can't say enough about the respect that

800
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: I have for Kelsey as a center. Talk about the

801
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: difference between what a center makes. This dude is like

802
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: he liked, he liked too, but he still is sturdy

803
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: enough to get to the next level. Hold guys up,

804
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, push you out of that a gap. Um,

805
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: And look, it's just being tougher against the run. Stopping

806
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: the run is an attitude. BC. You know it. You

807
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: gotta come in. You know you come in. Hey, man,

808
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: that's the hardest part of the game. Man, this guy's

809
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna be coming downhill on you. You gotta be willing

810
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: and committed to stop it. You gotta be tough at

811
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: the point of attack. Um, your linebackers have got and

812
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't look as good as Vederesh has been playing,

813
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: I think that leaves a lot to be desired at

814
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: the linebacker position sometime. And I just you know, Bar's

815
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: been doing well as but we just don't have that

816
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: guy that I believe is a thumper in between that

817
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, C two C gap. They're gonna have some

818
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: interesting options come draft time. A lot of places they're

819
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: gonna be able to go here because you can look

820
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: to improve in a lot of areas before we get

821
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: out of here. Um, Monday night football, we were all right,

822
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: all of us picked correctly. You had a twenty four

823
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: seventeen Chargers bearer, you had a twenty eight twenty Chargers.

824
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: I had a twenty six twenty one Chargers. It was

825
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: a nineteen to sixteen game and overtime. It was this

826
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: looked like a Thursday night game. It was so bad

827
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: with us. He ain't cooking, man, that's wrong with russ

828
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: hamstring now, I mean, I get it. Already took a shot,

829
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: already took the shot my back operation game. That's old school.

830
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: That's bad. I mean it's not I mean what is

831
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't have you ever seen a player go from

832
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: you know good too? I can't do it classy to Ashy,

833
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that fall off. That crazy man you're

834
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: now rust gets a lot of criticism, and it's deservedly so.

835
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: He hasn't played well. But I go back to I

836
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever seen that documentary of Saban

837
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: and Belichick that they did together. It's tremendous. Check check

838
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: it out. We're all worth your time. Belichick says, you

839
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: cannot overcome back coach. That's this thing is, you can't

840
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: overcome Nathaniel. Hackett is terrible, and Staley for the Chargers

841
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: was really awful to yesterday. This is the second week

842
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: in a row he's had a coach worse than him

843
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: on the sideline. I mean it was bad or bad man.

844
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row. He's just found somebody who's

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Speaker 1: dumber than him out there. Nathaniel is a candidate to

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Speaker 1: not just be one and done. You could be one

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Speaker 1: and done before the end of that. He's terrible. He's

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Speaker 1: really bad, and that's a part of why Russ looks

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Speaker 1: so bad. He just annoy's doing and he did a

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Speaker 1: good defense. Got a defense is keep you in the games,

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Speaker 1: But you're supposed to be the offensive. Go rule. And

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Speaker 1: one of my issues when they hired the guys, like

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Speaker 1: he wasn't calling plays in Green Bay, the floor was

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Speaker 1: calling plays. And then where did he call plays Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: with old Boat bortals Man man, Yeah, he was there

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Speaker 1: with me. That's getting the job. That's getting the job. Eric,

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Speaker 1: Eric be mean, you can't have the job with an

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Speaker 1: MVP and a super Bowl team. No, no, no, we've

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Speaker 1: got Nathaniel hack who they had some wild, crazy belief

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Speaker 1: that it's going to convince Aaron Rodgers now to come

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Speaker 1: on down now. The GM, according to to to someone

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Speaker 1: I know, said the GM wanted Dan Quinn, but John

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Speaker 1: Elway and the president team joys, they wanted an offensive coach.

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Speaker 1: So they go with the guy who gave the interview,

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Speaker 1: the mister enthusiasm. YadA, YadA, YadA. He's terrible. But percentage

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Speaker 1: watch percentage we're going to quarterback to head coach. Hacket

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Speaker 1: has been bad, Like kind of he's been bad. Every

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Speaker 1: decision is wrong. No, it's bad, but I'm like percentage

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Speaker 1: of Russ's play and Hackett's calling, like, where do you

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Speaker 1: is it? Sixty six? As a coach, you can't be

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Speaker 1: the reason they lose. You you can't be I mean

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Speaker 1: just simple, man, take your three points. If you've got

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Speaker 1: a good defense, you should always take the three. Not

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Speaker 1: putting Melvin Gordon in there. That's crazy, terrible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so I just made the power on Russ like man,

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Speaker 1: Russ is bad right now everyone, for everyone who jumped

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Speaker 1: from McCarthy. Everyone he jumps on McCarthy and McCarthy, they

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Speaker 1: get a load of hacket go go go get you

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Speaker 1: some thea than now. I this is why I expect

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Speaker 1: I put on Twitter. I expect the Thaniel hacking to

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Speaker 1: be fired. He'll be an offensive analyst next to Brian

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Speaker 1: Schotenheimer this year with right here Dallas. Because hey, they

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Speaker 1: all save each other. They all save me this or

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Speaker 1: they all do they all save each other. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I got you, man, I mean that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: These coaches are. It's a group, man, they all save

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Speaker 1: each other. Hey, fun show to the heck Ma Harrison,

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Speaker 1: he's back tomorrow Bury Church and gonna take there also,

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Speaker 1: all right, heck me and you something. We're gonna do something.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do. Man, We're gonna be gonna we gon ride.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna ride. I'm gonna ride baby, all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: media Mask, russ ain't getting nobody but hamstring pool, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do? And the man solder what can

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Speaker 1: he do? Much? He can't do, but he paid, though

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Speaker 1: he got paid. Du Meati Mask coming your way at

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