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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast will own you the dance floor.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Ross.

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Speaker 1: That's all what's up? Boys? Hey? Dan? That opening is

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Speaker 1: just a bold faced lie. What are you saying? Where

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Speaker 1: here is? I am quite possibly the worst dancer in

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Speaker 1: l A And I imagine you none of you three

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Speaker 1: looks like a first of all, looks can be deceiving

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Speaker 1: you wrong about that? In my younger years, when I

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Speaker 1: was a college student in Boston and it was very

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Speaker 1: big to go to clubs and go hip hop dancing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't bed, I wasn't. I'm not gonna say I'm

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Speaker 1: a great dancer, but I can you know a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Your move usually in this room at least, maybe that's

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Speaker 1: not a good indication. Is just putting your arms up,

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Speaker 1: kind of like Friday Night Lights the Wife. Also like

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Speaker 1: Fraggle Rock, Friday Night's Wife, Friday Night Light's Wife with

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Speaker 1: the wine in her hands drunk. Yeah, to start the show.

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Speaker 1: It's a distance thing for me. My ears are too

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Speaker 1: far from my feet. All right, that makes sense. This

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Speaker 1: is the Tuesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, a lot to get to. We

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Speaker 1: got the Monday night game recap, which is gonna be

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Speaker 1: very fun because there's a lot to talk about. There.

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Speaker 1: Another Packers victory, some trades in the NFL involving one

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Speaker 1: franchise that might be thrown it in the old tank,

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Speaker 1: the old tank a row before the start of October. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are going to choose the team of Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Are we this is gonna well hopefully then it's not happening.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, if we can't come up

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Speaker 1: with something, we gotta just bag the whole thing. Let's

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Speaker 1: come out of this room. It's like, what are the

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Speaker 1: twelve angry men? Just four angry men. We'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Let's do it right. I'm not angry.

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Speaker 1: You know sometimes you can be Well, you're in charge,

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Speaker 1: you don't need to be angry. We will. It's time

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Speaker 1: to fork some teams. That's that's the time of year again.

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Speaker 1: We're feeling bullish about our four capabilities. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: name some teams that have no chance of going to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And then we're gonna preview the Thursday night game,

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Speaker 1: which of course is a a f C North showdown

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Speaker 1: before we get into it, I do want to check in.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can a lot of ways to access

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Speaker 1: the around the NFL podcast. You have a stitcher, you

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Speaker 1: have iTunes, you have the NFL dot com site, you

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Speaker 1: have YouTube YouTube YouTube only on our Sunday Night show. Now,

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Speaker 1: just to clarify for any any listeners looking for it,

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Speaker 1: just the Sunday Night show. Apple TV. Some people have

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Speaker 1: like to check in at iTunes because they do have

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Speaker 1: a customer reviews section. And I will start by saying, uh,

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Speaker 1: the reviews are very good. It's an average of four

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Speaker 1: We once won an award Best of two thousand thirteen.

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Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. Now, well it's best

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Speaker 1: new podcast, so we can't be we're just seen off

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Speaker 1: love that our fans submit reviews. You know, sometimes the

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Speaker 1: reviews aren't great. So that's that's what. Let's just go

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Speaker 1: that'll be fun, Brandon. We'll start with let's too positive.

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Speaker 1: Throw of these five stars. I want to listen to

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Speaker 1: a great podcast by a group of guys who absolutely

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Speaker 1: love football and will make you laugh. The only thing

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Speaker 1: and you're all set, big fan. That was nice. That

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Speaker 1: This one? I like? I like this one? Not terrible.

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Speaker 1: Two stars out of five. As big as the NFL is,

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Speaker 1: you'd think there'd be a lot to offer by way

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Speaker 1: of podcasts. There's not. Though. This particular group of knuckle

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling just complains about the listeners in his weird hybrid,

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Speaker 1: be listening to a T and Crew. What about the

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Speaker 1: fact that we're knuckle draggers. Well that's a different guy.

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Speaker 1: How about this one? Stay on football? Know they hate

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Speaker 1: basic football knowledge. I guess that's what I should have

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Speaker 1: football in their lives. You know, the journals. Let me

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Speaker 1: just tell you something. Uh, what's your name? Mr Falcon?

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Speaker 1: Your clown? There are plenty of shows that you could watch.

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Speaker 1: Check the dial Buddy to hear athletes with nothing relevant

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Speaker 1: to say post career. Go find it and go enjoy

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Speaker 1: that wasn't fair at all. Fair criticis grad You graduated

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Speaker 1: but need more opportunities to earn acorns. You're a loser,

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Speaker 1: thought they're much more interesting. I want to read more,

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Speaker 1: Hey Brandon or last week with Brandon? How you doing, Bud?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? God, how are you? I'm good? Are you

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Speaker 1: getting a little wells, I know, not yet Thursday. You're young, though,

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Speaker 1: because you have a lot of opportunity ahead of you

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Speaker 1: no matter what happens here. I appreciate that. That's good.

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Speaker 1: be the only one didn't know. That's from. I have

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Speaker 1: let's uh, let's start with a Monday night football game.

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Speaker 1: We're Aaron Rodgers delivered another Aaron Rodgers performance. Five touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: eight win over the Chiefs in lambeau Field. This was

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Speaker 1: a game that was not as close as the final

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Speaker 1: the Packers. Offense and Wes you wrote up the piece

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com or what We Learned, which I

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Speaker 1: heartily endorsed. Everyone should check it out. This is just

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Speaker 1: all that. The money thing that you mentioned, dan Is

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Speaker 1: is the amazing part about it. They were forced to

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Speaker 1: give him eleven and a half guaranteed million dollars in

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Speaker 1: March because the previous GM had, you know, guaranteed that

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Speaker 1: so they gave him all that money, and the Panthers

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Speaker 1: get a starter. Even if Jared Allen is not great anymore,

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Speaker 1: he's a league average starter at this point. They get

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Speaker 1: a starter for no money the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: It's not that the Bears are, you know, paying his money.

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Speaker 1: He's only do a million dollars this year, so they

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Speaker 1: owe him about so they owe him. They get a

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Speaker 1: starter for that cheap and basically nothing, which is what

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Speaker 1: this is, Carolina. One of the reasons why bad teams

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Speaker 1: stay bad. They have regime changes every couple of years,

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Speaker 1: and every time you change your scheme, I guy like

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Speaker 1: Jared Allen, like you mentioned, they have to pay him

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars because they had signed him for a

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Speaker 1: for a for three defense. I think it's interesting that

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff is talking about scheme fit and it's

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Speaker 1: it's it speaks to long term planning when you're ready

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Speaker 1: to get rid of Bostick, especially as a young player,

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Speaker 1: and not shipped him over. I'm not sure this coaching

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Speaker 1: staff is gonna be here that long if they continue

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Speaker 1: the season the way it is, because there's nothing to like.

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Speaker 1: Their last in the league in points allowed per game. Well,

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Speaker 1: you you have to have some buy in from ownership.

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Speaker 1: I bel leave that, hey, can we get rid of

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Speaker 1: these old players that didn't fit, and that you that

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Speaker 1: you get a couple of years, because that's why they're

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Speaker 1: in this situation. I was gonna say, how much can

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Speaker 1: you hang on? I know John Fox isn't a favorite

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Speaker 1: in this room, but he inherited a bad roster in

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Speaker 1: a terrible situation right at the top of the offense

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Speaker 1: with Jay Cutler. This is not a one year project.

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Speaker 1: You would think that they'd be smart enough to give

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Speaker 1: this regime a couple of But why are you waiting

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Speaker 1: until September? You didn't you know they weren't a scheme

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Speaker 1: fit in in March and April and may right, you

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Speaker 1: could have eaten the money. Then. Maybe it was hard

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Speaker 1: to convince ownership. Hey, I know, we have to give

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Speaker 1: this guy twelve million dollars, but we just don't even

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Speaker 1: want him on our team. And maybe it's hard to

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Speaker 1: convince them then and now they can because that's a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. That's an insane amount of it. It

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Speaker 1: was a bad contract when the old regime gave it

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Speaker 1: to him. It was very bad. After you start out,

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Speaker 1: oh and three with the worst point differential in the league.

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Speaker 1: You can bet John Fox and Ryan Pace and walk

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Speaker 1: into ownership and say, hey, realistically, our goal now is

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Speaker 1: to get the best draft pick we can get and

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Speaker 1: rebuild this thing, boss stick thing quickly. I just want

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Speaker 1: to men, he was the top fifty pick that played

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Speaker 1: okay for them last year. He did not. He's a

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Speaker 1: liability and run support his instincts like he doesn't know

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Speaker 1: where to go. Started seventeen games in his first two seasons.

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Speaker 1: Second round pick out of Florida. It's kind of reminiscent

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Speaker 1: of a Keeym Mars and Jonathan can see us. Last year,

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Speaker 1: two guys who played roles on the Super Bowl team

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Speaker 1: traded at the deadline. If I was Gerard Mayo, not

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Speaker 1: that uh most people probably care that much. But if

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Speaker 1: I've a DRAWD Mayo, I'd be a little worried about this.

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Speaker 1: He has not been much of a factor this year.

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Speaker 1: They bring in Boston who plays the same position. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think Gerard Mayo's probably he has been a great

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Speaker 1: Patriots players, probably on his way out there. Bears are

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Speaker 1: all in on the two and fourteen. They're pushing all

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Speaker 1: the chips where wins coming. They basically bagged this season

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Speaker 1: when they refused to move away from Jake Cutler. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's what's happening in the news. Ye holy

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Speaker 1: te Oh, this is a very special honor, indeed, a

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Speaker 1: very what are you laughing at? Was? I was laughing

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Speaker 1: because Mark laughed. You could tell just how silly he

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Speaker 1: thought the lyrics were, right, I always forget how long

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Speaker 1: it is. I always like, wait, isn't it Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: that that could put that could be as long as

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Speaker 1: Bohemian Rhapsody. I would never stop playing so much. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's it is. What is that last line in the song?

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Speaker 1: It's a very special, avery special And it is. And

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Speaker 1: you know that's why we put so much thought into

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Speaker 1: it each year. Uh, whether or not the teams actually

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Speaker 1: no that they are the team of a t L

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Speaker 1: or a t n UM. It's it's more, it's it's

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Speaker 1: an honor that even they don't know about. Just like Mark,

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Speaker 1: there's somebody out there that you've never met that thinks

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Speaker 1: you're the greatest thing that ever happened to NFL dot com.

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Speaker 1: Not according to the review that you read. Not that guy.

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Speaker 1: But he also he wants more acorns, So don't get to,

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Speaker 1: you know, beat up about that. But there's somebody out

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Speaker 1: there that thinks you're the best guy in this podcast.

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Speaker 1: And he loves your writing, and he likes your wit

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Speaker 1: and how you get crusty sometimes and how you point

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Speaker 1: your finger and you get the fire eyes. All that

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Speaker 1: stuff makes them love you. That's us with whatever team

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Speaker 1: we choose. They don't know, but it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: loves not there. I think they are something. You know,

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Speaker 1: we you know, we've we started out a humble little podcast,

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Speaker 1: but we're no longer humble. We're gonna make this team. No,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna know we're gonna have some of them on

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Speaker 1: by the end. The whole country is going to be tough.

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Speaker 1: With the way these team sites like to self glorify themselves.

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Speaker 1: They'll they'll take that's fair point, especially the social media guys.

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Speaker 1: It's a two thousand thirteen, the first year we did

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Speaker 1: at the Carolina Panthers, did us proud. Two thousand fourteen,

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Speaker 1: we struggled a little bit settled on the Chargers, much

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Speaker 1: to West's chagrin. Uh they were okay, they were in

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Speaker 1: the mix till the end of the season. They put

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Speaker 1: up some exciting games, but listen, no one's gonna say

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Speaker 1: the charges will be the ultimate to the team of

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Speaker 1: a t L the two thousand fourteen edition, which takes

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Speaker 1: us to two thousand fifteen. And it's time to decide

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Speaker 1: because if you take it too much longer than it's like,

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Speaker 1: what are you even here? Fort Bronies. Just make a

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Speaker 1: decision and UH. On Sunday Show, if you listen to

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Speaker 1: Sunday Show, which you can still check it out by

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Speaker 1: the way, NFL dot com, slash podcast or iTunes or

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Speaker 1: Stitcher or YouTube where our Sunday night shows are available. UH,

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Speaker 1: we talked about how the Cardinals were right on the precipice,

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Speaker 1: a team that we almost picked last year, and this

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Speaker 1: year we got three yes votes from uh Greg Mark

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Speaker 1: West and I held out not because I'm against the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: but just because I wanted to, you know, cross the

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Speaker 1: ts and dot the eyes if you will, and I

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Speaker 1: do want to nominate another team. M what is a

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Speaker 1: very special honor You gotta give it the attention exactly,

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Speaker 1: and that is Dick Banks, by the way, the one

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Speaker 1: man house band A who performed that song. We actually

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Speaker 1: paid him to do that. We paid There was there

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Speaker 1: was like where did the money come from Roger Goodell.

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Speaker 1: It actually came from some sort of budget. Someone paid

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Speaker 1: for that song. I just want to make that clear.

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Speaker 1: There more money in that coffer that we could use

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Speaker 1: for our own fun. And we, of course we're put

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Speaker 1: in touch with Dick Banks from I listen. I haven't

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Speaker 1: kind of royalty check yet, but I'm hoping it eventually

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Speaker 1: lands in my mailbox. So thank you to Check for

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Speaker 1: putting us in touch with Dick Banks. Uh and Greg,

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Speaker 1: you and I were on the Check show on Tuesday mornings,

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Speaker 1: so you can check us out there too, all right now, Alright,

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Speaker 1: so Cardinals are obviously a finalist, and we can get

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Speaker 1: into that a little later. I'm gonna just nominate, formally

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Speaker 1: nominate the Atlanta Falcons and I'll give a quick um

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Speaker 1: resume if you will, and then we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: And uh, West, you have to promise me to have

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Speaker 1: an open mind here. Okay, the Falcons are three and

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Speaker 1: we know that that's great, great start a team after

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Speaker 1: languishing under Mike Smith in those final years, one of

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Speaker 1: the most boring teams get a total facelift under new

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Speaker 1: new coaching three and oh, averaging twenty nine point seven

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Speaker 1: points a game. That's a team that puts up points.

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Speaker 1: If you if you're a guy that likes scoring, Falcons

576
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Speaker 1: is they're gonna score points. Their second in the league

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Speaker 1: in passing, So yes, there's a lot of action going

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Speaker 1: on there. Fourteenth in rushing there used to be an

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Speaker 1: Albatros when it comes to rushing the football. They've got

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Speaker 1: two nice little players in the backfield there as we

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Speaker 1: saw this past week, so they had a balanced offense.

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones, we talked about, oh god, we like to

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Speaker 1: watch his team. How could you not like to watch

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones historical talent and he's on pace for historic season. Um,

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Now I bring up Matt Ryan because I

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Speaker 1: consider Matt Ryan and Greg I think you agree a

587
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Speaker 1: QB in need of more love. When you talk about

588
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Speaker 1: who are the quarterbacks everyone's always talking up is the

589
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Speaker 1: best in football? Matt Ryan is to me the top

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Speaker 1: five conversation at quarterback and we don't hear that enough.

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Speaker 1: And finally, Dan Quinn around the NFL favorite. I know

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Speaker 1: Wes and Mark both had nice personal interactions with Quinn.

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Speaker 1: I believe it the combine or at the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: super Bowl right at the super Bowl, super Bowl, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and left you with a nice taste in your mouth

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Speaker 1: by the bald, handsome goateed Dan Quinn and a nice

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Speaker 1: name by the way. And the Jets second choice is

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Speaker 1: head coach, so I think about that as well. Probably

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Speaker 1: would have been the Jet's head coach if the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: did to go to the Super Bowl. He was the

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Speaker 1: Brown's top choice and they didn't want to wait for that.

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Speaker 1: That thought was he was their first choice. Yep, and

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Speaker 1: then they went to the Super Bowl, So who knows

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Speaker 1: history could have played out this differently. That is the

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Speaker 1: resume for the Atlanta Falcons. Your thoughts, guys, I would

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Speaker 1: quickly vote yes. I think you're gonna have a tough

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Speaker 1: time getting four across, but I would quickly vote yes

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Speaker 1: for what you mentioned. Also, Kyle Shanahan, I think is

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite coordinators who you just see what

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Speaker 1: what happened in Cleveland since he's left big problems, and

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Speaker 1: I think that he's completely changed the running game in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: They were very They annoyed me last year because it

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Speaker 1: was Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and nothing else, and

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Speaker 1: they're a little more balanced this season. I think Quinn

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Speaker 1: we like Quinn. I would vote yes without any hesitation,

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Speaker 1: even though they're a Dome team. Don't care. I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to bend off that. Well, the Dome team thing doesn't

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Speaker 1: bother me generally. The malaise of their fandom has bothered

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Speaker 1: me over the years. At some point, I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be getting into this team. I would I would hope.

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Speaker 1: So uh one thing I really like about the Falcons

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Speaker 1: in terms of wanting to watch them each week. Some

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Speaker 1: teams just get an entertaining games, and the Falcons are

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Speaker 1: one of those teams, and I think those are often

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Speaker 1: teams that are weighted towards the offense, which this team

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Speaker 1: is going to be. You you watch the three Falcons

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Speaker 1: games this year, they've all been entertaining. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Monday Night game was great, the Giants game was back

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Speaker 1: and forth, big comeback when, and the Cowboys game was

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00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: another big comeback when said they've got they've got that

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Speaker 1: little extra juice. Well, I'm inclined to like the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: I spent eight years in Georgia treasure that time. Julio

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Speaker 1: Jones is one of my favorite players since he's entered

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Speaker 1: the league. Vick Beasley is already one of the most

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00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: fun pass rushers to watch, dan Quinn, like you said,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite coaches. But I'm voting no because

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Speaker 1: there can only be one team of a t L,

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Speaker 1: and that's the Cardinals. Well, I mean, for what to

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Speaker 1: me doesn't count necessarily as a reason why to vote against.

640
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I know because you have a team you already in

641
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: love with. The Team of a t L is a

642
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: lark for you, I have said. I judges that he's

643
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: totally unfair and baseless. West, It is a lark. You're

644
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and watch game film of the

645
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Falcons every week? I will every week if this happens,

646
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: I do not believe you. First Jesus, I promise I

647
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: will look to me. This is about when I get

648
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: to the top. After a thirteen hour sunday at work,

649
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: I get home and I want to go to sleep

650
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: or watch Casablanca or something. What game do I turn on?

651
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Even though I have nothing, no fumes left in the tank.

652
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: Who's inspired me to watch game pass at night? And

653
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: it's the Cardinals. Easily, the Falcons would be towards the

654
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: top of my list of in terms of who are

655
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: the most entertaining teams, and that's why I would vote yes.

656
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Now I have a different voting philosophy, which is, I

657
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: would you know if you brought up four or five teams,

658
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: I would vote yes on the Rams. I still like

659
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: the Rams. I know that would never happen. I wouldn't totally,

660
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Peter Pan, I would not totally. Uh well, those are

661
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: probably be the three teams that I that I would

662
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: favor the most. I would I would vote yes. I'm

663
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: with you. I think that after going through this drill

664
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: a couple of years, that I would vote for the Titans.

665
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: I'd vote yes for the Falcons. I'd vote yes. I'll

666
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: vote for the Cardinals. But you're right, West, it's not.

667
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: It's not because it's my favorite team that I'm itching

668
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: to watch. I think it really boils down when it

669
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: was the Panthers. You've been through this. It was this,

670
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, this was a team that you and

671
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: Greg got into. I liked it was it was completely organic,

672
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: and that's how the Cardinals are for me, is completely organic.

673
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: But it was it was something that you two were

674
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: more fascinated about. I can't roll with the ride. I'm

675
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: not gonna hold you up, but it's not because the

676
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: Cardinals are the only team that gets my juices flowing,

677
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: and Panthers still get my juices flowing because they got

678
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: the same quarterback that they've always had and they're in

679
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: they're overachieving once again. I still like the Panthers. I mean, Dan,

680
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You could. You could pitch all thirty

681
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: one other teams, and you're not getting them through at

682
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: this point. You're not. It's not it's exactly, he's gonna

683
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: shut down anything else that comes up. So it's either

684
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: the Cardinals or bust. That's the situation you're in last year.

685
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: Let's just we need to be honest though, And it

686
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: sounds like we are going to go with the Cardinals

687
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: because West is this is the equivalent of a temper tantrum.

688
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, West, It's not a temperate pantrum. I

689
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: think that you you have the luxury of a team

690
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: to root for, the team of the TEL means something

691
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: way different to you than it does to me. That's

692
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: why I don't think it's the team of at L.

693
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: It's the team of West. I don't say that in

694
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: a negative way. It's it's not about I would vote

695
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: to get rid of it because I don't think that

696
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: we can come to a we can't come to a

697
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: mutual respect here on. I would agree. I don't like

698
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: being cast as the evil person. I feel like I

699
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: have the right attitude. I I agree. I think West

700
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: does have the right attitude in terms of this conversation today,

701
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: which is Falcons and Cardinals, because to me, the Cardinals

702
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: are the more entertaining team. They are exciting. I love

703
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: their coach. I love John Brown. I love the Carson

704
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: Palmer story that he has a chance to finally have

705
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: a team around it. I even they made me like

706
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson this year. That's fun. Like everything about them,

707
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: that they're a downtrodden franchise. We all love them in

708
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: this room last year. So when it comes down to it,

709
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: there can only be one team, and I think the

710
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals are the best team of the teams we're talking about.

711
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: They are the best option. I'm down with the Cardinals too.

712
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm not against the Cardinals. I I just felt that

713
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: it was important in the people out there, what about

714
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: the what about the Panthers again? You know, enjoy beating

715
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: teams that are combined one and eight through three weeks

716
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. We'll see where your records at

717
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: after weeks seventeen. Nice start. I like you, Cam Newton,

718
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: but you're not in the mix. And to me, it

719
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: was the Falcons that jumped out. But I'm not gonna stop.

720
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop stop down here and like not

721
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: let this happen just because I want the Falcons that bad,

722
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter that much to me. I think

723
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are a fun team. Yes, let me try

724
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: to explain this in a different way, Yes, the Falcons

725
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: are attractive. If to me you you are in love

726
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: with the Jets, marks in love with the Browns. Greg,

727
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: you know he's kind of I don't. I wouldn't know

728
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: if I call it love anymore. But to me love

729
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: a lot of teams and Patriots are on the topic.

730
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: Let's let West, let's let's what let West have a s.

731
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: To me, the team of at L is like falling

732
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: in love. And this happened with the Panthers for me

733
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's a mystery. You want

734
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: to know everything about that team. It's like when you

735
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: have a favorite song and you you have to play

736
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: it a hundred times because there are nuances in that

737
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: song you have to get to know and you want

738
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: to unwrap them. That's how I feel about the Cardinals.

739
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way about the Falcons. You seem

740
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: confident about the ways of love when it comes to

741
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: football teams. I've fallen in love several times in my life.

742
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: I know how it works. M Well, I'm fine with that.

743
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: I again, I'm I'm with you. I liked the Cardinals.

744
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: I actually went back last night because I was I

745
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: don't want to jump on a team that just goes

746
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: fourteen and two. That's not really for me what the

747
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: team of a t L is about. I'd like a

748
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: team that's a little bit more in the middle, where

749
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: you've got to kind of root for them. They're a

750
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: little bit more the underdog that's not gonna happen this year.

751
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: That's nothing. What if what if we saw what if

752
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: we saw the Cardinals as a team that was going

753
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: to be fourteen and two before everyone else saw that

754
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: they were going to be fourteen in two? Well we

755
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: can say that, but there're three and oh right, right?

756
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: But I wanted them to be a team of a

757
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: TL in Week one. But I don't even I don't care.

758
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: When everybody was giving the division it wasn't really my point,

759
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: but fair enough. But even right now, people would still

760
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: think that the Seahawks are the favorite in the division.

761
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: And I think West is we're not picking a team

762
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: to be ahead of every one else. Of liking the

763
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: team and wanting to watch them is the perfect definition,

764
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals fit that for me, whether they're whether there,

765
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: we're a year ahead or not. We all liked them

766
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: last year too, and I like that that they are

767
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: a down trodden franchise. They're so disrespected and they've been

768
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: so in the bottom of the barrel. They couldn't even

769
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: make the pain rankings, even though they have had the

770
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: worst franchise overall top to bottom in terms of lack

771
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: of winning since the day they started. It's been three

772
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: different cities because no city can stand them for so long. Well,

773
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate Greg trying to drum up some enthusiasm for this,

774
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: so let's I'm not trying it. You're not excited about

775
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: it at all, but I'm totally here's love the car.

776
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: I think it's just I'm just saying we if West

777
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: can opine about why he wants this, we all have

778
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: different viewpoints and that's why I would vote to get

779
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: rid of team. I would think I think the segment

780
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: has voted oh on eliminating the team of it. It's

781
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: run its course, we don't. We all have different you

782
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: know ms here, and I don't think it's worth like

783
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: being attacked over it. All right, Well you know we're

784
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: not trying to hurt anybody's feelings here. Well, I just,

785
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: like you know, I want something out of the team

786
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: that you and Mark don't want. And that's fine, But

787
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't want to. I don't want

788
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: to have to force you guys into something that you

789
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: let me give you one promise. I will promise you

790
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: us that once this becomes official, I'm all in. You

791
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: won't hear me talking about, oh, we should have went

792
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: with the Falcons. I'm all in. We go with the Cardinals.

793
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm in on the Cardinals and let's have some fun.

794
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: That's how I feel too. I'm I said I'd vote

795
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: for five different teams. It's not something I'm gonna like

796
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: come back to anyone on five or six times. But

797
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: the point is our level of enthusiasm for it is

798
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: in different places. That's why you close the doors and

799
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: you figure out who the team is. And I think

800
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: maybe maybe some things were said, maybe we should we

801
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: could take some things back if we could. Maybe we

802
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said some things we should have. But the

803
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: end of the day, I think we figured it out.

804
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: I think the Arizona Cardinals are the two thousand fifteen

805
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: team of around the NFL. There you go, see, Well,

806
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: anything worth having has to you have to go through

807
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: trouble for it. And I was like, it's got to

808
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: be valuable if you have to go think of, you know,

809
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: having a baby. That's not very easy, and yet well

810
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: it's easy for you to say, what comes out a

811
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: beautiful little child? Excellent analogy. Greg went through the fire

812
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: on that one. Lest anyone think that our debates are

813
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: are not genuine, like we're you know, there's an Skip

814
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: Bayliss element. Hell no, that was real debate. That was

815
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: real R E. A. L. And the Cardinals are the

816
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: team around the NFL. So congratulations Cardinals. Uh, if someone

817
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: tells you, you'll probably be very confused. So there you go.

818
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: We have to decide one more thing. What are we

819
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: gonna keep calling the team of at L or the

820
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: team of a T n or the team of NFL.

821
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: It's it's poor branding in this point. Yeah, for those

822
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: for those who are new to the show, we used

823
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: to be the Around the League Podcast, and at the

824
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: time that I contracted Dick Banks for the song, we

825
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: were still a t L. And then after he recorded it,

826
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: our show was changed to a t N um you know,

827
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: and team of a t L we was what we

828
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: call the Panthers. So yes, there's a little bit of

829
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: ambiguity there, but we're just gonna, you know, continue to

830
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: use both, I guess unless we want to just now

831
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: one and just go forward. Team of a t N

832
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: team of the Around the NFL podcast. Do you want

833
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: to keep a t L. I'm cool with whatever, but

834
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: it's another reason why I was good not to pick

835
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Well, we just we didn't decide anything here.

836
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well that maybe whatever you're most comfortable with,

837
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: but there is no debating the Cardinals are the team. There,

838
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: you go, That's how we get things done. Let's move on.

839
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Special Congress can't solve anything. We got up with some

840
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: legislation make America great again. Take it's time to bury

841
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: some teams that had no chance of being a team

842
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: of a t L these we agree about all right,

843
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: this is after debate. Uh, this is one thing we

844
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: all got behind on our I am client here at

845
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: the office. Uh to be the stick of Wokingham. Every

846
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: year we decide which teams have no chance of making playoffs,

847
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: not on my new chance, there's no chance. And if

848
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: we are wrong on any of these teams. Let Greg

849
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: in the past has donated to a local food bank,

850
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: I believe, and never forgot reminded. He just kept reminding

851
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: us about it. Oh do you remember the time where

852
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: I had a charitable mind and with my wallet Greg

853
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: gave it to like the young Republicans of Orange County.

854
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: That is the last group I would ever get to.

855
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: But I will say how uh ash as a group,

856
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: I would think if we get any of these wrong,

857
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: we should all chip in and donate to maybe a

858
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: local shelter or something like that, especially with our new

859
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: liberal leanings in terms not in terms of politically. But

860
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: everyone just wants to get bold and throw the teams

861
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: out there. That means we're gonna get some wrong and

862
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: that we should. Is everyone comfortable that I'm not saying

863
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna affect you being able to pay rent, but

864
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: we all chip in a little money and we donate

865
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: if we get something wrong. Yeah, because talk about a

866
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: segment that probably should have gotten buried. It's the way

867
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: we handled this last year where this is about who

868
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: we think you'd make the playoffs or not, and it's not.

869
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: It's not are they mathematically still alive in week eleven?

870
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: And last year we want to be ahead of the curve.

871
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: We were completely behind the curve with this exercise last year.

872
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Do it last year, you guys, it was such a

873
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: waste of time. I agree that we literally didn't do

874
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: it last year. Go back this time. We're fine being

875
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: wrong because we're gonna try to be bold, and before bold,

876
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: let's you know, forget the internal semantics of the podcast.

877
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: This year, we will be forking teams and we will

878
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: donate to a charity if we blow one. Is that

879
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: cool with you to us? Absolutely right. So these are

880
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: the teams that we all agreed, and there are six

881
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: teams at a thirty two greg they're thirty two teams

882
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: in the NFL. There's six teams that are already done.

883
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: No chance if any of these teams make the playoffs,

884
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: a charity get some fundage the Chicago Bears, the Cleveland Browns,

885
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: the top of Bay Buccaneers, the Detroit Lions, New Orleans

886
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: Saints in the San Francisco fourteen niners. So those teams

887
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: are all done well. We all agreed on I am

888
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: about these teams. But is there any of these teams

889
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: that any of us are a little nervous about? Sneaky nervous? Well,

890
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the Lions won eleven games last year, so they're a

891
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: logical pick. Oh, and I'm a little uneasy about that

892
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: is a tough hole. I would actually say the bucking

893
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: the Ears just because that, I guess. I don't feel

894
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: bad about anyway that division. You just never know what

895
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: could possibly happen. But no, I feel good about all

896
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: these We had some close calls, which we can wait for,

897
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: but that this group here, I have no issues with.

898
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: If we if we were hesitant to fork the lines

899
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: in the same division with the Packers, this segment would

900
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: be useless. But they don't need to win the division.

901
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: They didn't, right, but they would at oh and three

902
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: they have to beat out about six or seven other

903
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: good teams for a wild card, and they're not playing well,

904
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: and their offensive line has issues, and their quarterback has

905
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: issues and their defense is being shredded. For if I

906
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: could take if I had to pick one of these teams,

907
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: that would be the most likely. I take back my answer.

908
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: It would definitely be the forty Niners because the forty

909
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: Niners have played three games and they're a team I

910
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: don't think we know. I know they've been terrible the

911
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks to division, but they're they're not

912
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: getting past But it just wouldn't shock me. But you

913
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: have them with the second best record of this division.

914
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they have pieces on their team. They've

915
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: played eight one of three, they have good I think

916
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: they have a decent front. Seven I think seven shredded

917
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: the past two weeks. By the way, well we just

918
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: put the Lions. They are owing three at Seahawks next week.

919
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: That's owing four. They also have two more games against

920
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: the Packers. They'd be lucky to win one of those.

921
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: So there's really you do them yourself when you start

922
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: owing three. No team has made the playoffs since when

923
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: that's happened. So here are some close calls, teams that

924
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: got either you know, two or three votes, but it

925
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: has to be unanimous for us. The Fork, Raiders, Jaguars, Texans, Redskins,

926
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: and I included the Ravens here because none of us

927
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: nominated them, but they are own three, so they deserve

928
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: a place on the close call list. Mark, you were

929
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: defending both the Raiders and Redskins. Your thoughts, well, the

930
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: Redskins are in an NFC East that you know, Romo's

931
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: out till Week eleven. The whole division is topsy turvy,

932
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: and I think the Redskins legitimately are going to be

933
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: a better team than we sall last year, no matter

934
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: what happened against the Giants. I really do think that

935
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna be hanging around till the end. The Raiders,

936
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: I'll fight for them because they could go three and

937
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: one beating Chicago this week. I don't think it's a

938
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: complete flute. The record is not, uh, you know, just

939
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: something that's completely made up. Because I think you've got

940
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's playing much better than we expected. You've

941
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: got a Marie Cooper, You've got a good level of

942
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: talent on defense, and weird things happening in a f

943
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: C where there aren't that many powerhouses. I could see

944
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: them going right to the end and being kind of frisky,

945
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: and I don't want to rule them out yet. Let

946
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: the record show I went to the mat for the

947
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: Raiders here they're a little frisky, who knows what they're

948
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: going to be the rest of the year. And the Redskins,

949
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: to me, their Week two games against the Rams was

950
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: the most complete game any NFC East team has played

951
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: this year. I I agree, but you guys were just

952
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: talking about getting bold, and I was thinking, well, what's

953
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: bolder than forking a team with a winning record. You're

954
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: not gonna have too many chances. You guys were just bold,

955
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: Let's get bold. Do I think the Raiders have a

956
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: legitimate chance to make the playoffs? No? Never make too much.

957
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: So you would have forked today? I don't know one

958
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: that suggests. I mean, the Thursday night game was so

959
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: ugly to me, and I don't even know if the

960
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: Dolphins are any good. They might be a total train wreck,

961
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: which is another one of their wins, so I don't. Yeah,

962
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: I would have forked them too, but I get it,

963
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: and West you also you I held off on the

964
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Texans because I just the division is still weird. I

965
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna get from the cold now.

966
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: Forked them in the Harpet. They might have the worst

967
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: quarterback situation and the league. Maybe they might, but they

968
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: also have J. J. Watton Arian Fosters coming back, and

969
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: it's a bad division. So I'm not quite ready on that.

970
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: In West, you were in defense of the Jaguars, Well,

971
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: just because I would if it's between the Jaguars and

972
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: the Texans to me easily take the Texans. Forked the

973
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: Texans because they don't have a quarterback. The Jaguars might

974
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. I mean, in reality, we should probably

975
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: have almost every fork able team done within the next

976
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: four or five weeks. Tops. Yeah, we should move right,

977
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: We should know who the play. We should be bold

978
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: enough to not be predicting. Essentially, it's not saying you

979
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: know that they have no chance. Obviously, most of the

980
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: a f C South is going to have a chance

981
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: until we see that one of the that the Courts

982
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: could possibly pull away, which no one is expecting at

983
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: this point. All right, So there you go. Those are

984
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: the six teams that are done for. We will track

985
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: this closely, and I'm sure there's gonna be at least

986
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: one team out of this group that might make a

987
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: sweat a little bit, but it's usually how these things

988
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: work out. But we shall see, all right, Moving on, gentlemen,

989
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: to the Thursday night preview. The Ravens, who we just

990
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: talked about, not forked by the Around the NFL podcast,

991
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: but they are oh and three and now they got

992
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: to go to Pittsburgh. And this is where maybe you

993
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: could say fate enters the room for the Ravens, a

994
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: team that is always in the playoff mix. Uh it

995
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: seems in the last fifteen years, and under normal circumstances

996
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: this would have been the death knew oh and three

997
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: and then go to Pittsburgh in prime time to face

998
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. However, Ben Roethlisberger has a knee injury. He

999
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: won't play for several weeks, so vic enters the picture.

1000
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: Um Mark, I'll start with you. I know you are

1001
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: very um you know, bold or very vocal about your

1002
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: distaste for the Ravens without for obvious reasons, knowing the history.

1003
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: But do you think that this is a game where

1004
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: they could round up all the troops and put some

1005
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: life back into their franchise. I do, and I think

1006
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: they will. The big Ben injury is unfortunate for Pittsburgh.

1007
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: But for the Ravens, it might be the thing that

1008
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: if they are going to get back into this race,

1009
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: sort of save their season because I think Mike Vick

1010
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: is very vulnerable and can be you know, gotten to,

1011
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: and the Ravens have plenty of deficiencies, but they got

1012
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: to get back on the board at some point, and

1013
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't fork them this week because I think

1014
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. I think they their quarterback,

1015
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Flacco has been playing well, Steve Smith

1016
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: is playing very well. They haven't been a terrible team.

1017
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: But when you think of the Ravens, do you think

1018
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: of playmakers on defense? Who who is their playmaker right now?

1019
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: On defense? I mean Jimmy Smith they thought was gonna

1020
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: be good. Jimmy Smith is getting torched by great receivers.

1021
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: But he's getting torched. So if he's not really a

1022
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: number one cornerback, the rest of that secondary is bad.

1023
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: When you have guys like when lawren Sky is making

1024
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: the most plays from your defense, that's a problem. They

1025
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: don't have anyone that sticks out to you. Can I

1026
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: just say, because Mark you mentioned the reason why you

1027
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: didn't fork him is because you think they'll win I mean,

1028
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: I would think if especially we're just talking about the

1029
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: Stick of forkhom series, that we want to be bold

1030
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: this year, we have to all be picking the Ravens

1031
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: this week because they wouldn't come back from Owen four

1032
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: right West, Well, who knows? I mean, I don't know's.

1033
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's ever come back from I don't.

1034
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I have a harder time writing off a proud team

1035
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: with a winning tradition like the Ravens than I do

1036
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: some other other teams like the Lions. Where when the

1037
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: when did the Lions ever show backbone? I don't know.

1038
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: To me, that's a harder I don't. Anecdotally, it seems

1039
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: like more than half the game's Ben Roethliser Ben Roethlisberger

1040
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: has missed in his career have been against the Ravens. Oh, yes,

1041
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: it's not more than half, but it is six. It

1042
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: is not like in Baltimore. It's six out of sixteen,

1043
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: which is a huge amount considering it's just one team.

1044
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy it'll be seven. Now. I don't have sessler's

1045
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: very often, but before Michael Vick signed in August, I

1046
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: did have a Sessler that he would land with the

1047
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: team and lead that team to the playoffs, and there

1048
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: there is. I actually went and did a lot of

1049
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: research on older quarterbacks, and there's always a guy. I

1050
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: thought maybe it'd be Ryan Fitzpatrick. There's always a guy

1051
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: in his mid thirties who leads a team to the

1052
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: playoffs with a bounce back season coming coming out of nowhere.

1053
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: In a similar quarterback, remember Randal Cunningham's season with the

1054
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: ninety eight Vikings. Cunningham had been retired. They pulled him

1055
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: out of retirement. He was a running guy. He made

1056
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: he was he became a better passer with the Vikings.

1057
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: I don't know well. And he's supported by one of

1058
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: the best offensive lines in the league, one of, if

1059
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: not the best wide receiver in league. Antonio Brown, who is?

1060
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: It shows how good Julio Jones is that no one's

1061
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: talking about Antonio Brown this year. He has been unbelievable.

1062
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: You have Levi on bellback, you have all sorts of talent,

1063
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: and the defense looks better. It's not great, but it

1064
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: looks better the last two weeks. Stephon two, it's playing well.

1065
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: Maybe they get Ryan Shay's ear back. I mean, it

1066
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't be a surprise if vic can can help

1067
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: them win this game. I do like them the matchup

1068
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: between Baltimore's passing game, which actually you know they lack

1069
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: weapons entirely, but he's put up Flacco was put up

1070
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: a ton of yardage over the past two weeks. And

1071
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm not in love with Pittsburgh secondary. I mean, this

1072
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: game is not gonna be. It doesn't help at all

1073
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: that it's in Pittsburgh. But the Ravens, like, like you said, Dan,

1074
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: if we didn't fork them, they can't go on four, right.

1075
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: I thought that last week. I have to say, like,

1076
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Ravens again this week. But the

1077
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: reason I picked them last week against the Bengals because

1078
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, there's no way they'll start

1079
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: oh in three in their old and buildings. So now

1080
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: my confidence is shaking about doubling down on this, like

1081
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: West said, like a proud franchise of the winning tradition.

1082
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna do it because, yeah, I think they

1083
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: were saved by the football gods with Roethlisberger being out

1084
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: of the picture. I think I think they're gonna take

1085
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: advantage of this. I think philosophically, I never I always

1086
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: wonder why anybody has great confidence in their weekly picks.

1087
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: Even if I think the Steelers are gonna win by

1088
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: it's not enough for me to assume that the Ravens

1089
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: are gonna go and fo. Yeah, the question to me

1090
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: is which Michael Vick is It can can Todd Haley,

1091
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: And we've already heard some whispers about the things he's

1092
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: cooking up. Watch out, Todd Haley loves throwing wacky stuff

1093
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: out there. He's gonna really love it With Michael Vick.

1094
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: I mean you could. I forget what insider it was,

1095
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: but it was someone that talks to Haley was like,

1096
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: just watch what they've got cooked up for Thursday night.

1097
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: So we'll see. It's which Mike Vick Because the Michael

1098
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: Vicken New York couple games was a was a fine

1099
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: starter and a couple of games gave his team absolutely

1100
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: no chance to win, right he was. I mean, I

1101
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: I need to be convinced that this guy isn't over

1102
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: the hill, because I didn't see it last year. And

1103
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 1: there's a reason he stayed unemployed for so long because

1104
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: everyone watched the same tape. So now here's the question.

1105
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: You put him with some stud talent, like he's got Now,

1106
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: what does Michael Vick look like? Maybe that's what made

1107
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham looks so good at night? And you know,

1108
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: you never know. And everyone thought that Randall Cunningham was

1109
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: washed up to the point, like I said that he

1110
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: was retired, nobody wanted him. All right, let's go around

1111
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: and make some picks. Mark Sessler, pick and score, please, sir,

1112
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: Ravens h West Steelers. I will go Ravens twenty to seventeen. Yeah.

1113
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: I would take the Steelers as well in a high

1114
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: scoring game, something like thirty seven. Another another one that

1115
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: they find a way to blow at the end. All right,

1116
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: So there is our Thursday pick sponsored by nobody. Why

1117
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: don't we gonna get sponsored? Let's get spine. I see

1118
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: check is sponsored by McDonald's Burger king out. There's where

1119
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: are you? Nike? Give me all the money. I want

1120
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: all the money. You don't get that money. I know

1121
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: NFL gets the money. I feel like the money will

1122
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: trickle down if you, Hey, Apple, what's up? Anyway? Before

1123
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: we go go get my lunch? Dot org is uh

1124
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: really our favorite site? The site? Listen? There might have

1125
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: to go behind closed doors and hammer out a team

1126
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: around the NFL Uh, like we did today, but there's

1127
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: no debating. The best website associated with UH, the around

1128
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: the NFL group besides nfl dot Com would be go

1129
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: get my lunch dot org. Nick Fortier, Uh, one of

1130
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: our fans. Where is Nick from? By the way, do

1131
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: we know? I ass him to buy with that name?

1132
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: But I did parts unknown, We're still we're still looking

1133
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: into that, and you just think he's not a swamp

1134
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: in the buy. He has responded to some Panthers things

1135
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: I've written. I believe he's a huge Steve Smith fan.

1136
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he's from Steve transcends the universe. Though there's no

1137
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: way to know. It doesn't matter, really, it doesn't matter.

1138
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: But we don't know. Nick, reach out to us, let

1139
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: us know where you're from. Anyway. His site, Go get

1140
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: my lunch dot org has all our sandwich propositions, it

1141
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: has other fun things associated with the show and also

1142
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: just latest just uploaded or added to the site last

1143
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: week a soundboard. So before we go, UH, the irishman

1144
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: Brendan McInnis, if you can share some of you know,

1145
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: the greatest hits off the go get my Lunch dot

1146
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: Org soundboard for around the NFL. Let's hear something. There's

1147
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: better be a flamethrower that ends broadcast radio. That one's

1148
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: called flamethrower about another one is that that's lovely Smith's hot.

1149
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: But that's a solid one. I like that one. What

1150
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: else have we got? I speak Spanish, Galian, wolf dropping

1151
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: some Spanish? Keep rolling? You a coward? Famous Andrew mars

1152
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: Brown's situation. Anything else? Well, Marvin Lewis is an idiot.

1153
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: I like that one that we got one from? What

1154
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: we got one for West? Everyone can no, that's not me,

1155
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: that's me? What about one for West? It's about me?

1156
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: Check that out? Appropriate Nick Fortier from Parts Unknown, go

1157
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: get my lunch dot org. All right, that's it. So

1158
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: what are we? What are we accomplished today? We accomplished

1159
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: a lot. We chose a team. We chose a team

1160
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: of a t L. The Arizona Cardinals. Congratulation guys, proud lineage,

1161
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: uh panthers in the Chargers and now the Cardinals. So

1162
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: what does it mean? If anyone's curious, what does it

1163
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: all mean? I'm not sure. I don't know. I guess

1164
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: we just get we mentioned a lot that they're the

1165
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: team of a t L. It's usually how it works

1166
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: out right. We roote them on. Yeah, we root for them,

1167
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: we want them, we we do. Who knows until they

1168
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: inevitably crumble in the postseason Carson Palmer disappears somehow, and

1169
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: then some JABRONI backup foils them again. What if they

1170
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: went on to win the Super Bowl? Would that be

1171
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: heartening or disheartening? No, it would be unbelievable. It'd be great.

1172
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: That'd be the best possible result we got cover the

1173
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: team of why why do you hesitate? I don't know.

1174
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: It almost makes me feel bad. I think they might

1175
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: say something about me. I don't want them to be

1176
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: that you don't want you don't want love. No, I

1177
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: don't want everyone to like our person well, the three

1178
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: and it's our special it's our special team. I don't

1179
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: want everyone jumping on that band. But we were the

1180
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: moment we see something special on about them that other

1181
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: people don't see. Chris, you deserve happiness, You deserve love.

1182
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: You deserve something that's true, at least a winning football tea.

1183
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: This love that deserves the last Oh to the home,

1184
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: you guys are too perfect Home, Dace. I was actually

1185
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: asking for the piano, but it's over now, Brandon Um

1186
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: This isn't gonna work. Brandon. Listen, you only got two

1187
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: shows left, so you gotta make sure you get the

1188
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: timing right. Remember, and I told you that I wanted

1189
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: your shows to be horrible. Maybe I'm just starting a

1190
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: little bit earlier. Maybe I'm just starting Brandon's got one

1191
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: more show episode. We're excited, uh to have one more

1192
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: show with the Great Irishman. So that's it for Tuesday's

1193
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We'll be back

1194
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: Thursday night with our Thursday recap and Friday UM and

1195
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: all the games on Sunday. Until then, the stand Hands

1196
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: is signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the

1197
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: Foss until then,