WEBVTT - Lakers/Nets Postgame Spaces

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<v Speaker 1>M all right. Welcome to the State of the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>as Ny by dask Raandio. Happy Tuesday, everybody, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>coming to hang out. Reinvigorated is the word that I

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<v Speaker 1>would use to describe tonight. By the way, No Roj tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still out of town on a work trip, although

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<v Speaker 1>he should be back for the back to back on

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday and Friday this week. Um so Ryan solo tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate you guys coming to hang out. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, reinvigorated. This is a team that has

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<v Speaker 1>struggled with belief and a willingness to do the job

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<v Speaker 1>all season. Now. To be clear, a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>struggle happened with Anthony Davis on the court. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hopeful that with the combination of that infusion of talent

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<v Speaker 1>with Anthony Davis and just the reality of the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>the predicament, and the urgency that is presented by their

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<v Speaker 1>place and the standings, I'm hopeful that effort will be

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<v Speaker 1>less of a problem moving forward, at least as long

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<v Speaker 1>as guys to help you and Frank continues to play

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<v Speaker 1>the right guys, which I liked most of the groups

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<v Speaker 1>that he went with tonight, he started Stanley Johnson, which

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was really interesting. Trevor Reason has really been

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<v Speaker 1>struggling of late on both ends of the floor, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a certain, you know, balance that has to be

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<v Speaker 1>taken there because you wonder if if Trevor Reason can

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<v Speaker 1>be useful in the long run, and the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to find out is to give him a long runway,

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<v Speaker 1>a long distance, and a lot of time for him

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out if, if, if his body is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be up to the task. And for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>tonight was the end of that rope and ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being Stanley Johnson. But one of my concerns coming into

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<v Speaker 1>this game was gonna be Bowl trouble and because just

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<v Speaker 1>typically when you've got a guy like Stanley is super aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>tons of ball pressure draped all over James Harden like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got a guy like James Harden, who's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most gifted, you know, a foul grifter in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the NBA. Those two things, it was inevitable

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<v Speaker 1>that Stanley would get in trouble, which you did, but

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't matter because the Lakers played a really good

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<v Speaker 1>basketball team in one now to be to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>because of injuries, uh and the Kyrie Irvan situation that

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Nets team is not very good right now. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that is, you know, I would have picked

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<v Speaker 1>them the Lakers. I would have picked the Lakers to

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<v Speaker 1>win tonight even if Um Anthony Davis had not played,

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<v Speaker 1>just because this is a this is a team that

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<v Speaker 1>is beatabule right now. They're going through a similar stretch

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<v Speaker 1>to what the Lakers were going to going through about

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<v Speaker 1>a month and a half ago. They just don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of talent. They're playing a lot of basketball

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<v Speaker 1>lineups that are not functional. Um that said, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good win. Like Bras always says, we can't be

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<v Speaker 1>picking with the team like this that has struggled to

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<v Speaker 1>win as often as they have now. Looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis thing, what what is so interesting is that

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<v Speaker 1>when you plug him into the line up, the entire

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<v Speaker 1>team just becomes that much more functional because he can

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<v Speaker 1>actually do the job of a starting NBA center in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. You know, we talked a lot about how

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron is. He is a center in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>he can be in that position and you won't get

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely destroyed. But he's not a traditional center in any

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<v Speaker 1>sense of the other word, and then Dwight Howard is

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<v Speaker 1>a backup NBA center, so plugging someone in there that

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<v Speaker 1>is functional already just makes everything work so much. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was super interesting that they didn't just force

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<v Speaker 1>feed him in the post. They kind of used him

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they've been using Lebron in these small

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<v Speaker 1>ball lineups, where they're using him as a screener and

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<v Speaker 1>rolling to the basket. And yeah, he got a handful of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, face up touches on the wing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he made a pull up jumper on one of them

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<v Speaker 1>and drove to the baseline on the other. But he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't as we were hoping, they didn't spam that the

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<v Speaker 1>way they did at the beginning of the year. Things

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<v Speaker 1>stayed free flowing and it just worked. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big reasons for that is Anthony Davis is the

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<v Speaker 1>best defense player in basketball. And I know that's a

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<v Speaker 1>complicated topic because there are guys that play better defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA throughout the day in, day out grind

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<v Speaker 1>of the NBA regular season, but they're not capable of

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive ceiling that Anthony Davis is capable of. This

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I talked about a lot with Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James like, if I'm if we're ranking basketball players and

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<v Speaker 1>who the best players in the world are, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I'd take anybody over Nice for a regular season

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<v Speaker 1>because the guy just has the motor and the youthful

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<v Speaker 1>exuberance to be what he is at his very best

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<v Speaker 1>night in and night out in the regular season. In

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<v Speaker 1>a way that someone like Lebron who can go through

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<v Speaker 1>the lethargy of just he's been in the league forever

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<v Speaker 1>and he's concerned about saving his legs and he's not

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<v Speaker 1>hyped up by big crowds anymore. Like it's you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get that same you know, effort out of

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron night in and night out in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>That's set when things get really important, when the basketball

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<v Speaker 1>games become more meaningful, when the stakes get higher, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, Lebron can tap into something that Janice can't.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an unbelievable defensive player. He can be like

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<v Speaker 1>Draymond Green when he's dialed in on that end, and

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<v Speaker 1>then on the offensive end. He has that unique combination

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<v Speaker 1>of extreme high end, elite offensive creation on the ball

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<v Speaker 1>as a score mixed with that elite high end playmaking

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<v Speaker 1>which only a few men of only a few players

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<v Speaker 1>in the league are capable of, and so Lebron can

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<v Speaker 1>hit this ceiling that Janice just can't hit. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that with the Anthony Davis in the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. It's unfortunate and it's kind of an indictment

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<v Speaker 1>of his motor that, for whatever reason, he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to win a Defensive Player of the Year award

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<v Speaker 1>or consistently be in the top of that conversation because

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<v Speaker 1>he struggles with that. But man, when Anthony Davis dials

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<v Speaker 1>it up, there's just nobody that can stay with him there.

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<v Speaker 1>In that first quarter, I think he had three blocks

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<v Speaker 1>in his first seven minute shift and was actively disrupting

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<v Speaker 1>everything Brooklyn was trying to do. And there was an

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<v Speaker 1>isolation possession there at the end of eighties first shift

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<v Speaker 1>or try to shoot a step back over the top

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<v Speaker 1>and eight partially blocked it. I think he got another

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<v Speaker 1>block there in the fourth quarter on Patty Mills. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just a devastating defensive weapon. And if they can combine

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<v Speaker 1>some of the you know, new influx of athletic talent

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<v Speaker 1>with guys like Austin Reeves and Stanley Johnson with a

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<v Speaker 1>more consistent motor, with a more engaged Lebron, and with

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis being back on the floor, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a good basketball team here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is something to get excited about. The most

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<v Speaker 1>important part about bringing Anthony Davis back has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with slotting. This idea is is all. It's when you

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<v Speaker 1>send a group of guys out onto the floor to

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<v Speaker 1>play basketball. Each of them has a job list of

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<v Speaker 1>responsibilities that they have to fill, and any five man unit,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to succeed, has to be able to check

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of boxes on the court. But because Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Davis checks so many boxes, it shrinks what everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>has to do, even Lebron, And by virtue of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you get everybody back into a more natural position. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of Malik Monk doing a ton of isolating, he's

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<v Speaker 1>attacking closeouts. Now. Instead of a ton of Carmelo Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>post ups, it's Carmelo Anthony spotting up. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get into Russell Westbrook in a minute and how

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<v Speaker 1>that all works. But the point is is everyone just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of slots in properly now, Lebron James can not

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<v Speaker 1>have to be the back line defender all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You can play passing lanes more. And you saw that

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<v Speaker 1>there in that fourth quarter where he got back to

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<v Speaker 1>back steals for for run out dunks. That's just all

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<v Speaker 1>part of the process of adding Anthony Davis to the

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<v Speaker 1>equation to make everyone else's job so much easier. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that will hopefully lead to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys who have struck gold in their specific role to

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<v Speaker 1>playing better. And as far as that slotting concept goes,

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<v Speaker 1>that goes to an even greater extent when you add

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<v Speaker 1>in whoever it is that the Lakers bring in at

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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline. Now we're gonna talk more about the

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline later. There's a bunch of you know, reporting

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<v Speaker 1>that has been done from various sources over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the last week that are ranging from the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to get everybody to the Lakers aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to make any moves, and we'll see what ends

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<v Speaker 1>up happening. But if you can bring in someone like

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Gordon, if you can bring in someone like Harrison Barnes,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are just two random names, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>can bring somebody like that in that helps the slotting

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<v Speaker 1>even more because guys like that are just capable of

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<v Speaker 1>accomplishing so much more on the court than a very

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<v Speaker 1>young Taylor Horton Tucker, very young Stanley Johnson or Austin Reeves.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just slots everybody even further into a better

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<v Speaker 1>position on the floor for them to succeed, for them

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<v Speaker 1>to play that their best, to have fewer bad nights,

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<v Speaker 1>and for this team to getting a real rhythm. Now

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<v Speaker 1>as far as slotting goes, this is where it gets

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting with Russell Westbrook because with Anthony Davis out

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<v Speaker 1>there was a different kind of slotting that took place.

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Westbrook was forced to do more, and it exposed

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<v Speaker 1>him as somebody who wasn't capable of doing it anymore

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<v Speaker 1>at this level. This is something I talked about a

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<v Speaker 1>ton on the show as a blate, This idea that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Russell Westbrook because he can't shoot, and because

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a fantastic ball handler, and because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have great finishing moves around the rim. There short finishing

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<v Speaker 1>moves you know, as far as floaters and scoop shots

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that before he gets to the rim,

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<v Speaker 1>and because as a playmaker, he's kind of more just

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<v Speaker 1>a drive into the chaos and kick it out to

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<v Speaker 1>the corner and hope for the best kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only a matter of time as his athleticism

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<v Speaker 1>declined that he would struggle with this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And you saw that to a significant extent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in this stretch without Anthony Davis. But now what you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing now and Anthony Davis's back is Russ kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seems useless. The metaphora uses like it's like if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some random trumpet player hopped on stage for a rock concert,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just kind of out of place. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>that he's bad necessarily, but it's like, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at all those responsibilities that I'm talking about, the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that the team needs to do, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Russ doesn't make a ton of sense. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't need him to create off the dribble anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>in this five out system, they're just getting tons of

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<v Speaker 1>rim pressure just from all these guys that can put

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<v Speaker 1>the ball on the floor. Stanley Johnson can put the

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<v Speaker 1>ball on the floor and go to the rim. Austin

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<v Speaker 1>Reaves can put the ball on the floor, a very

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley actually is in a pretty good offensive rhythm as

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<v Speaker 1>of right now. There's there's just there's no need to

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<v Speaker 1>have this other guy that can stand at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the key and and create offense. They don't need

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<v Speaker 1>that anymore. So now he's being relegated off the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you relegate him off the ball, you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>teams just completely and utterly ignored. And it didn't hurt

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers tonight, but Brooklyn was basically not paying any

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<v Speaker 1>attention to him even when he had the ball in

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<v Speaker 1>his hands. There was a sequence of post up touches

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<v Speaker 1>in that second half where Lebron is turning and catching

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<v Speaker 1>on the wing and turning and facing and Russ has

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<v Speaker 1>the like kick out. Russ has the ball and James

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<v Speaker 1>is just like James Harden's like, I'm not going out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And James knows best. He literally went through this in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bubble Payoffs. He was on the floor getting doubled

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<v Speaker 1>out at half court while Russell Westbrook was standing on

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<v Speaker 1>the quarter in the corner and the Lakers were completely

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<v Speaker 1>ignoring him. James Harden knows this very well, so of

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<v Speaker 1>course he was willing to implement that same strategy against

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers. We haven't seen it a ton this year

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the regular season and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>see some super high level, you know, uh, crazy adventurous

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<v Speaker 1>scheming in a regular season, But you saw it tonight

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<v Speaker 1>from Brooklyn, and what you saw there is something you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see in a large dose when we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason. You're going to see every good defensive team

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<v Speaker 1>put a big, physical forward, just like the Lakers did

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<v Speaker 1>with Anthony Davis on Russell Westbrook. They're gonna like Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance. Phoenix is probably gonna put someone like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Crowder on Lebron and then they're gonna put McHale

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<v Speaker 1>Bridges on Russell Westbrook and sit his ass in the paint,

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<v Speaker 1>having jump passing lanes, double team post ups, double team

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<v Speaker 1>guys drive into the basket, and it's gonna look a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a lot worse than this version where the

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Nets for doing it with Patty Mills James Harden

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<v Speaker 1>at a bunch of JE League guys. That it's only

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<v Speaker 1>going to get harder and harder to try to make

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<v Speaker 1>this work as we get further along and as better

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<v Speaker 1>teams are involved and I don't understand, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>you can make this work with Russ on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that that's going to happen. Now what you saw,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a counter that the Lakers used when when

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<v Speaker 1>Russ was getting north like that, they put him in

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<v Speaker 1>the dunker spot and he actually got an and one

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Here's the issue with that, though. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what Bruce Brown is doing for the Brooklyn Nets. He's basically, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of like a Swiss army knife type

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<v Speaker 1>of basketball player who's not super big, not super athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just plays super super hard and does all

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<v Speaker 1>this dirty work for the Nets, right, and they use

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<v Speaker 1>him as a guy who sets ball screens and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>short rolls to the basket to make reads and crashes

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<v Speaker 1>the glass and he'll sit in the dunker spot. But

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<v Speaker 1>the differences is Bruce Brown doesn't take defensive possessions off.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Brown doesn't have inconsistent and volatile decision making. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's the point of using Russ as Bruce Brown when

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't do Bruce Brown stuff well enough for it

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<v Speaker 1>to be worth it in the tradeoff. You know, there

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<v Speaker 1>were several plays today where you have a sloppy turnover

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<v Speaker 1>and he jogged back on defense and not really pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention and get burned. And that's not stuff that Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Brown does. There's Bruce Brown can be functional in the

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<v Speaker 1>offense as a guy who hangs around, hangs out around

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<v Speaker 1>the dunker spot, but he is on the floor because

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<v Speaker 1>of all the dirty work he does and Russ just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't do that stuff. And so because of that, the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers are actually better off going with another wing. Take

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you're thirty two minutes or whatever it is you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting from Russ, and distribute them among guys who, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than sitting in the dunker spot, will be on the wing,

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<v Speaker 1>attacking close outs, be a threat from the three point line,

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<v Speaker 1>be a threat to put the ball on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and also fulfill their defensive responsibilities every single possession, do

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<v Speaker 1>their job. That is a more tenable option. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's complicated because of the situation surrounding RUSS. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>this article come out today from Ramona Shelburn. It's absolutely wild,

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<v Speaker 1>basically talking about how the Lakers have kind of made

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<v Speaker 1>their bed and there's not a whole lot they can do.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were some interesting bits of information in there.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, apparently Russ doesn't take very kindly to you

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<v Speaker 1>criticizing him in a film session, which was a wild

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<v Speaker 1>thing to read. I mean, as someone I've sat in

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<v Speaker 1>these film sessions when I was playing in college, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're in front of your whole team, you're

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<v Speaker 1>in front of your coaching staff, there's video footage on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall of what you did wrong. I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>imagine standing up and being like, no, I didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong there. That's just like one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>outrageous displays of ego that I can even imagine. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not entirely uncommon in the NBA. Guys have big egos.

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron has a history of you know, Shaquille O'Neil said

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<v Speaker 1>once that in two thousand ten Lebron wasn't super responsive

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<v Speaker 1>in film sessions. But a couple of differents there. One,

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron is a kid, he's still like four years old too.

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<v Speaker 1>He was Lebron James, he was the MVP of the league.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a certain amount of leeway or willingness to put

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<v Speaker 1>up with b s because it was Lebron James at

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<v Speaker 1>the peak of his powers defending m v P and

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<v Speaker 1>so you you just kind of went with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>but again, at the same time, Lebron over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of his career has become more mature and cable of

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<v Speaker 1>handling that stuff because he grew up. And for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>with Russ, you're getting that type of attitude, You're getting

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<v Speaker 1>that top of the league, top of the world type

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<v Speaker 1>of ego without any of the on court production. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I think it's so important to do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it takes to try to get him off the

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<v Speaker 1>roster before the deadline, because the general manager and the

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<v Speaker 1>ownership group has given Frank Vogal the right to mention

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<v Speaker 1>as we saw last week in that fourth quarter. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the problems is is he didn't handle it well.

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<v Speaker 1>Made a scene, left the floor, left the arena, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even hang out for the Lakers postgame meeting. So the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, if he's not taking to this whole concert,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole city situation very well, then you run into

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<v Speaker 1>the dangerous situation where you might have to do this

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<v Speaker 1>again in a postseason series. And now you've got Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Westbrook still on the roster, and however that reaction goes

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding that and it could get ugly and so my

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<v Speaker 1>thing is like, get ahead of it. If you know

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<v Speaker 1>Russ is going to be a problem from a matchup

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<v Speaker 1>perspective in a playoff series, and if you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to handle it well when you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take him out of the lineup, then what's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where, you know, kind of like when I

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<v Speaker 1>start to look at potential trades, it's not just about

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<v Speaker 1>what you might get back, It's about the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with what could go down with Russ, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and essentially, you know, is there a is there a

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<v Speaker 1>absolute perfect outcome where maybe Russ has some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic wake up call and he embraces the dirty work,

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<v Speaker 1>He changes his attitude, he becomes what I wanted him

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<v Speaker 1>to be, which was this team's Drew Holiday. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that plays off of two superior offensive players,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily focuses on being a power guard on offense, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the rim, but on the defensive and

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<v Speaker 1>takes that responsibility personally understands that that's his biggest contribution

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<v Speaker 1>to the team. That's what you're getting from ju Holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was hoping for in terms of my

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to rationalize how this could work before the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but Russ has never embraced that. Now, is there a

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<v Speaker 1>small chance, like I said, that he might embrace that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're trying to project forward with this team

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<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to make decisions around the deadline, what's

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to happen? Guys? Is it more likely that

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<v Speaker 1>Russ continues to be this guy or is it more

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<v Speaker 1>likely that he becomes an issue down the line? And

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<v Speaker 1>that That's why I stand where I stand with the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of of getting him off the roster. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>getting ahead of the potential problem, get ahead of the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that teams won't be able to you know that

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<v Speaker 1>teams will ignore him and you won't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>functionally run your offense in a playoff series, and get

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of the potential attitude problem that can come with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a problem, and I'm hopeful that the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers will do something about it as far as that

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<v Speaker 1>trade goes. I wanted to talk about this John waltrade

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more because I kind of laughed it

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<v Speaker 1>off last week when I initially heard of it in

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<v Speaker 1>the mark Stein report. But it's kind of picking up steam.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a bunch of factors at play here that

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<v Speaker 1>make it a little bit more realistic than people think.

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<v Speaker 1>For starters, John Wallas with clutch and clutches really trying

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get John out of Houston. Um, the guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the Hoop Collective did a big thing today talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how he's a much better catching shoot shooter. He's

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty seven percent on catching shoot threes in his

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<v Speaker 1>last two seasons that he actually played, and that he

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<v Speaker 1>in theory, is a less volatile, a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>controlled playing. And most importantly, he is actually amenable to

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of not being used or being taken out

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<v Speaker 1>of the rotation as we've seen in Houston. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that I would make that move. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's something that Laker fans need to at least

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<v Speaker 1>start to mentally prepare themselves for, because there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few things working in favor of that that make it

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility. Now, so much has to go right, like

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<v Speaker 1>Russ would have to continue to struggle the way he

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<v Speaker 1>has been, the Rockets would have to be amenable to

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<v Speaker 1>taking second round picks instead of a first round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>because that would be like ditching the first round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>To get off a rust for John Wall would be

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute travesty. I think Laker fans need to be

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<v Speaker 1>more open to spending that pick, but certainly not on

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<v Speaker 1>someone like John Wall. But like I said, the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>just Laker fans just need to be prepared for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that that is a realistic outcome. And should John

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<v Speaker 1>Wall come back, you know it could it certainly couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be any war than what we're getting from Ross. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Russ is a much better athlete than John at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in his career, but I think John is

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<v Speaker 1>a potentially a little bit more capable of of fitting in. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see that, but it's just something like

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<v Speaker 1>your fans have to potentially be prepared for now as

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<v Speaker 1>far as this first round pick goes, because I've seen this.

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<v Speaker 1>This was reported by Eric pinkus Uh in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days, this idea that the Lakers are hesitant

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<v Speaker 1>to throw this first round pick into anything, and that

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<v Speaker 1>to me is completely ridiculous because everything we know about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, rebuilds, tells us that, hey, guess what, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get first round picks anytime you're having a bad season.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because you can call teams and telling hey, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take that overpaid guy you have, and we'll take that

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<v Speaker 1>overpaid guy and we'll eat his salary for a year

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<v Speaker 1>or two, but you're giving us the first round pick

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<v Speaker 1>in exchange. We've seen this so many times in recent years.

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<v Speaker 1>If you if things go off the rails, you can

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<v Speaker 1>accumulate picks quickly. So let's say Lebron ages out of

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<v Speaker 1>the league, and let's say Anthony Davis just isn't good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be a franchise cornerstone and the team is

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<v Speaker 1>massively underachieving and comes around and it's just not working

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<v Speaker 1>in those seasons. Even if you spent the first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick on a player this year, pretty quickly you can

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<v Speaker 1>make calls around the league, take back salary, take back picks,

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<v Speaker 1>and do a rebuilding. There is a playbook out there now.

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City is showing us where you can pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 1>a mass picks just by being bad for a season

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<v Speaker 1>or two. Now, you obviously don't want to get stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in that. But my point is is, like, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>scenario where clinging to that first round pick is if

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<v Speaker 1>as though it's the most important thing in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>will pay off for the Lakers. If they're good over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the next half decade, then that pick

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<v Speaker 1>is very carries very little value because it's a late

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick, and if they're bad and they use

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<v Speaker 1>the pick, you know, to to get something in the

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<v Speaker 1>UH in this season, it'd be easy enough for them

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<v Speaker 1>to recoup it just simply by doing what every other

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>bad team does this time of year. So I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that pick needs to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation for any deal in order to get it done,

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>especially when you realize what's at stake. What's at steak

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<v Speaker 1>is Lebron James in his age thirty seven season playing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best basketball of his career and Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>freaking Davis coming back from an injury looking good, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a core here that could potentially make a run

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<v Speaker 1>to win a championship. Meanwhile, Golden State has Draymond Green

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<v Speaker 1>with a back issue that could may or may not

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.679
<v Speaker 1>be serious. The Phoenix Suns don't have anywhere near the

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<v Speaker 1>top end talent that the Lakers have. There is an

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:55.120
<v Speaker 1>opportunity here, there's a slight crack in the door, there's

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a window. You need to try to capitalize on that,

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and the only way to do so is to push

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<v Speaker 1>your chips into the middle of the table. And so

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.159
<v Speaker 1>I hope that the Lakers are willing to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, to two last quick things I wanted to hit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll get out of here. So this Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Grant thing, which I think is is really funny for

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of reasons. So basically the report comes out

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>saying that Jeremy Grant has decided his his representation is

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 1>basically telling Detroit like, hey, these are the teams we

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>want to go to, and telling the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>league like, don't pick up our guy unless you plan

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<v Speaker 1>on using him as a primary option and paying him

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of money. And basically it's cooling the market

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's part of the reason why Detroit hasn't been

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Speaker 1>getting great offers. Now again, Jeremy Grant's mind is made up.

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna do what he wants to do. And look

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of this my theories it has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with pressure. I mean, it's not just about the money,

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not just about the touches. It's the fact that, hey,

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>look at Russell Westbrook. When you're on a team that

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<v Speaker 1>has championship aspirations and you don't play well, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go well for you with the fan base. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pressure that comes with that. There's a lot

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>of pressure that comes with expectation, whereas when you're with

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Detroit or when you're somewhere else in the league, there's

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>no pressure that comes with that expectation when there is

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>no expectation. So from that standpoint, like I think, from

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Jeremy Grant just looks at it like I'm

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>having fun in Detroit, making lots of money, and guess

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>what if I shoot poorly? No one cares. His percentages

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>have tanked this year. Most of you don't even know

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>except for the fact that you looked it up because

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 1>he thought he might be a Laker. That's the reality

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>of his situation in Detroit. He is in a very

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>cush situation in terms of pressure. So that's my theory.

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>But what's silly about it to me is Jeremy Grant

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<v Speaker 1>is a very good basketball player and he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to struggle the way that Russell Westbrook will. Chances are,

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>because he's that skilled, he's going to thrive. When he

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>was in Denver with Jamal mur A, with Nicola Yoki's

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>before he put in that summer of work to prep

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>for being a primary ball handler. He did a great

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>job in the possessions that were thrown his way. And

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>that team was spamming the Jamal Murray Nicola Yokers pick

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and roll. They were not getting other people involved as

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<v Speaker 1>often in terms of initiating actions. This Laker team and

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these teams like the Clippers, a lot

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>of these teams that are running this modern five out attack.

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of other teams that are linked to Utah.

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Jazz are a great example there. You know, a full out,

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>one end team, but they let all four of those

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 1>guys initiate. Boston Celtics have been mentioned their team that

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>lets everybody from the perimeter initiate. When you're in these

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>modern systems, when you have all these guys on the

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>floor that can pass, shoot, and dribble, everybody gets touches.

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>It's really about just who's in the rhythm. Like on

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>any given possession, you're probably gonna get two or three

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>opportunities to drive and kick. So the idea that like

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>you need to have this guy this is something I've

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.439
<v Speaker 1>been pushing back for on the Russ thing NonStop as

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<v Speaker 1>it pertains to Lebron wanting rust. I just don't understand

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>this idea that like this this one ball thing was

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>proven wrong all the way back with the Lebron and

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Waite stuff, and that was in a completely different era.

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>It was proven wrong with Chris Paul and James Harden,

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be proven more and more wrong as

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>time goes on, because basketball is evolving in a way

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to where everybody has the ball in their hands, everybody

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>puts it on the floor, everybody creates, and everybody kind

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>of feeds off of that, and you're seeing it. You're

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>seeing that in Detroit anyway. And the other thing too,

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 1>is he's gonna go to some other team. He's gonna

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>go to some team where they're going to give him

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the ball more, but they're also going to be rebuilding

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and trying to put other guys who can dribble around him.

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Like if he goes to Washington, you don't think Kyle

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Kuzma is gonna want his possessions. You don't think, you know,

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Bradley Beale or Spencer DINWITTI are gonna want their possessions.

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like every everywhere you go it's the same issue.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just it was really nonsensical to me from the start,

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I think it primarily has to do

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>with just the pressure and him just wanting to play basketball,

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.880
<v Speaker 1>collect his paycheck and go home. I respect it, but

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>let's just call it what it is, all right. Lastly,

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>before we get out here, you guys, I wanted to

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about James Harden because we saw something tonight that

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>we saw in the Bubble that I think is very interesting.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>In Bubble, James Harden put up monster numbers against the

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Lakers on good percentages, but they pretty much rendered him

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>ineffective in terms of controlling the outcome of the game.

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 1>And you saw that again tonight. James Harden put up

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>big numbers, had monster rebounding Game two, Shop chucked the

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>ball well but generally well not not you know, over

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>or anything. We shot reasonably well for James Harden game,

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>but it just didn't seem to have much impact. You

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>never really felt like James was controlling the game. You

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>never really felt like James had a real chance to win.

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of like a recurring theme in

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the James Hardened world, this idea that his repetitiveness is

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>what undercuts in You know, the announcers on T and

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>T actually did a really nice job describing this to

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>those of you who are listening. The difference between dealing

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>with James Harden in a set defense and the half

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>court versus dealing with him in the full court. The

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>difference between isolating one on one or beating a guy

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>off the dribble when things are kind of fluid and

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>in motion versus all five Lakers staring at you and

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to make a decision or make a read

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>or make a play. Things get complicated when the game

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>slows down, and the Lakers did a nice job, especially

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>when they were in the half court tonight, of just

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>making things difficult. But most importantly, they were able to

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>use that same kind of bracketing trap thing that they

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>used in the bubble. They would just as Bruce Brown

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>or whoever it was Claxton was set in the ball screen,

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>they would basically just send him to the ball screen

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and have the guy guarding the screen or just bracket

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>on the other side, and James would kind of take

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple of dribbles and he wouldn't want to keep

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>going because he knew if he kept going, then the

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>trap would come hard, so he kind of like stay

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>with the dribble and then he'd swing the ball away

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and when they swing it, the Lakers could easily rotate

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>out of it. Because James hasn't created an advantage. He

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>needs to actually pull the double team away in order

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to get some sort of real advantage. And it wasn't

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>surprising to me at all that it worked again because

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>this is something that James Harden has struggled with throughout

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>his whole career. Every possession with James Harden begins on

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the wing extended, either on the right side of the

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>left side him with a live dribble, either isolation or

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>pick and roll. If you see that exact same play

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>sixty times in a game, you're just gonna get good

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>at Guardian. He might have his possessions where he gets

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a bucket, usually when things are disheveled or when you

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>make a mistake, but generally speaking, he's going to eventually

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>struggle or run out of gas. This is why he

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>struggles a lot in fourth quarters or in playoff series

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>is as the series Dragon. He's just so repetitive and

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the way he attacks then let's juxtapose that with Lebron.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I watched Lebron, and he can do those wing extended

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>possessions he's running in isolation. He can do those wing

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>extended possessions where he's running the pick and roll. But

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>he can also come off of a down screen and

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>should have pull up. He can also go to the

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>low block and punish a mismatch there. He can also

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>turn and face. You saw in the third quarter he

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>just was like, Hey, I'm just gonna catch the ball

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>seventeen ft from the basket on this left wing. I'm

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna turn and face, do a couple of jab steps

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and knockdown a three. And then once you guys start doubling,

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start passing out of that. That's a whole

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>other element to his game. Off the basketball. He's devastating

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>as a cutter. And then you just just in general,

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Lebron can attack you in you know, a half dozen

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>different ways, a half dozen different places on the floor.

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>So the predicted, the predictability element is out of the picture.

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>He can if for whatever reason, there's a action that

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>he's trying that isn't working, he'll just go somewhere else

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>on the floor and try it until he finds that

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>crack in your armor and he can break through. That

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>lack of versity, that lack of variety from James Harden

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>will always be what holds him back in my opinion,

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's really unfortunate because he's one of the best

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>two guards of all time. And when I'm looking at

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>two guards and you look at the guys who came

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>before him, Guys like Dwyane Wade, guys like Kobe Bryant,

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>guys like Michael Jordan's, every single one of them was

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a dominant low low post player. The mind he used,

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Dwyane Wade NonStop attacking mismatches down on the block with

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>his little with his arsenal of floaters and hook shots.

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>They all had a versatility element that James has never

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>added to his game. Now, I don't know if it's

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>entirely his fault or if it's a product of that

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and the Houston system, which I think leaned heavily on

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>analytics and the idea like, hey, when you run this

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>high pick and roller, when you run this extended isolation,

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>we're averaging one point to six per possessions when you

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>shoot or when you make one pass and so it

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>pushed him to leaning further into that stuff instead of

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>understanding that there were It was really easy to scheme

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>against it in the playoff series and basically render it useless.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>And most importantly, when you get to a tiny number

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>of possessions in a pivotal game, no one's given you

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>one point to six points per possession anymore. It's like

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you either score or you don't in that smaller sample size.

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And we saw that limitation throughout his career in those moments,

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and I just thought it was interesting because, like, you know,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of talk about James Harden since

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he went to Brooklyn, this idea that he's evolved, he's

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>become a playmaker now he's no longer doing the things

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>that he used to do. And you know, that might

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>all work if Brooklyn is healthy, just simply because they

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>have so much talent, and you know, James might get

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a trophy anyway. But you know, just watching him again tonight,

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just sitting there watching and I'm like, man, you know,

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I wrote an article back when I was writing ages ago.

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I wrote an article about James after he lost I

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>believe in two thousand eighteen or two thousand nineteen, so

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the year he won the m d P. And I

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>wrote all the same stuff that I'm telling to you guys,

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's just so interesting to me because here we

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:58.959
<v Speaker 1>are four years later, same guy hasn't added a damn

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>thing to his game. And I don't think it's a

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>coincidence that we see like what we saw tonight. You know,

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy who can be rendered somewhat ineffective with simple,

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>basic strategies as soon as things get slowed down or repetitive. Alright, guys,

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that's all I have for tonight. ROJ is going to

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>be back for hour back to back on Thursday and Friday.

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:23.000
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0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.560
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0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.439
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0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.440
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0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:31.320
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