Speaker 1: This is me eater podcast coming in you shirtless, severely
Speaker 1: bog bitten and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You
Speaker 1: can't predict anything. What's up, guys, how's everybody doing tonight?
Speaker 1: Awesome Texas. It's Ryan from Eddie out there, Ryan Sears. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there he is, he's quiet. Watch watch how slickly I
Speaker 1: uh I do this? Um, I hope he's enjoying those
Speaker 1: shades boots. Oh sponsor alert man. Uh if this is
Speaker 1: our third of our of our lives to it is
Speaker 1: the third show we've done in Texas. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: does mean we really love Texas. Must mean you think
Speaker 1: yet people always right in Like there was a question
Speaker 1: I had that I was gonna look at tonight and
Speaker 1: it begins like, I know y'all hate Texas. We'll get
Speaker 1: to the question just to show how much we love Texas,
Speaker 1: will get to it. But Texas, like I feel so
Speaker 1: Texas is as proud as uh y'all are with the
Speaker 1: you know, not massive with Texas and um Davy Crockett
Speaker 1: and everything. There's there's there's like Texas have a persecution complex. Yea.
Speaker 1: I was always there's a there's a there's a persecution
Speaker 1: complex here, Like, how much? Yeah, honest, how much have
Speaker 1: we we filmed here? All of the I feel like
Speaker 1: we we practically live in Texas. Practically. Yeah, well, we've
Speaker 1: at least one a pig trapping episode here. You're down
Speaker 1: here hunting out at and have Lena once twice? What
Speaker 1: else have we done? Came down hunted quail, not filming,
Speaker 1: hunted jack rabbits while hunting quail, not filming. We're hunting
Speaker 1: turkeys tomorrow, not filming. One time, my wife was offered
Speaker 1: a job in Texas. We went to do our little
Speaker 1: checkout to take a look at it. We went to
Speaker 1: the people who are trying to hire her, hat us
Speaker 1: to dinner. I was gonna stand up and say, like,
Speaker 1: she'll take it, because we've been driving over bridges every
Speaker 1: bridge I looked off. It looked like a good place
Speaker 1: to fish. I started calling my kid, start calling my
Speaker 1: kid Jimmy catfish, just an anticipation of moving here. My
Speaker 1: wife didn't take the job, so I almost was a
Speaker 1: damn Texan. I think that for people in Texas to
Speaker 1: stop thinking that we don't like Texas, I'd have to
Speaker 1: show up down here with elephant skin boots and shelled
Speaker 1: corn coming out of my pockets. They'd be like, here's it, Texan.
Speaker 1: Did you know do you guys know that that your
Speaker 1: state has no regulations on owning a tiger? Cal was
Speaker 1: just telling me that there are estimates out there that
Speaker 1: they're that Texas has the second largest tiger population next
Speaker 1: to India, so many cats that you guys can't even
Speaker 1: keep track of them. All you can find are estimates
Speaker 1: on the tiger population in Texas. The estimates for like
Speaker 1: two to five thousand. They know with greater certainty how
Speaker 1: many grizzly bears live in Montana than they do how
Speaker 1: many tigers Texans? How many tigers Texans have? His pets
Speaker 1: and the numbers are comparable. People down here like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a normal move on. The question from the dude
Speaker 1: that that those we all hate Texas is uh. He
Speaker 1: was saying any tips for keeping his buyal was from
Speaker 1: fogging up in the cold. He says, it's been in
Speaker 1: the teens lately in North Texas. Could it possibly be true?
Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. I mean he probably thinks teens.
Speaker 1: He's thinking it's like forty five degrees, Like, boy, it's
Speaker 1: been in the teens. When I first moved to Austin.
Speaker 1: I was driving down the highway. It was like thirty
Speaker 1: degrees and there was no cars. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought there was traffic. I got to work and
Speaker 1: they were like, uh, hey man, how did you get here.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I just I drove on the road.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, it's really cold. There could have been nice.
Speaker 1: It's like like, well, uh, it turns out there wasn't
Speaker 1: any and they're like I was like, so, what's up.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, it's a two hour delay. The
Speaker 1: kids can't go to school, they don't have jackets, they
Speaker 1: can't sit in the bus stops, like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: come on Texas. Uh. In the case it does get
Speaker 1: cold on here, keeping you from vinals from fogging up,
Speaker 1: telling me Honnie, because the camera guys are good at this, yeah,
Speaker 1: well you don't want to. Usually our cameras always fogged
Speaker 1: up when we go from um cold a warm, So
Speaker 1: you just don't want to, Like I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't put your mind on so close to your body
Speaker 1: maybe and don't breathe into them, keeping warm close to
Speaker 1: your body cold warm. More used to take a cigarette
Speaker 1: lighter and heat up his lenses terribly wrong. And that's right.
Speaker 1: Remember lenses with a with a with a pocket rocket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for you aspiring filmmakers, don't go to British Columbia. It's
Speaker 1: gonna dang your budget. Quick note, who's doing anything on Friday?
Speaker 1: On Friday? If you don't have plans? Were doing the
Speaker 1: screening of our documentary Stars in the Sky. The money
Speaker 1: will it's at the It's at the Eddy Flagship Store.
Speaker 1: The money goes to benefit Texas Parks of Wildlife, specifically
Speaker 1: Desert big horn sheep specifically does are big horns. So
Speaker 1: there's still so there's still some tickets left. So while
Speaker 1: we're sitting here, I don't ready. I would normally if
Speaker 1: I saw you messing with your phone on a normal circumstances,
Speaker 1: I would hate you. But if you're messing with your phone,
Speaker 1: I'll just assume that Feller was buying a ticket. It's
Speaker 1: a Hunter Bucks. It's a p M on Friday right
Speaker 1: here in Austin, Texas. You get an exclusive event only tumbler.
Speaker 1: You get a copy of the Meat Eater Fishing Game Cookbook,
Speaker 1: which is available everywhere books are sold. There's a you're
Speaker 1: already making money by going to this thing. Go to
Speaker 1: the meat or Facebook page under events and get yourself
Speaker 1: a ticket hunter Bucks going do good cause. Now, uh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound like I'm dogging on Texas. I
Speaker 1: am not messing with Texas. I have read the bumper stickers,
Speaker 1: but you're This state has a great website where you
Speaker 1: can go and read about all the things Texas game
Speaker 1: wardens are up to and just become my favorite way
Speaker 1: to kill time. Some people like go on Facebook when
Speaker 1: they're just trying to have a brain dead moment. I
Speaker 1: go and read about Texas game wardens. Anybody here from
Speaker 1: Mattagorda County is am? I saying it right? Okay? Game
Speaker 1: board and gets a call about a deer line on
Speaker 1: the side of the road with a crossbow bolt sticking
Speaker 1: out of it. He goes over to have a look. See.
Speaker 1: Fifty yards down the road he finds a guy asleep
Speaker 1: in a truck. He's got a seatbelt on, his windows open,
Speaker 1: sound asleep. He's got a loaded crossboard bowl with the
Speaker 1: safety off on the driver's seat and a loaded cross
Speaker 1: boat with the safety on on the back seat. A
Speaker 1: quick glance confirms that his bolts next to his sleeping
Speaker 1: body match those in the deer that he shot and
Speaker 1: then took a nap down the road in Henderson County,
Speaker 1: game board and gets called by the guy out jack
Speaker 1: lighting deer again. This fella has a loaded crossbow and
Speaker 1: multiple flashlights in his truck, but he's like the opposite
Speaker 1: of a sleep because he's also got a stash of
Speaker 1: meth in. In Houston County, awarden gets a call about
Speaker 1: some people doing some illegal hunting. He goes over to
Speaker 1: the house where his fols he's taking place, and you know,
Speaker 1: he sees a woman book into a house and she's
Speaker 1: messing around with an ice chest upon with I'm assuming
Speaker 1: this is not a YETI and you'll understand why sitting
Speaker 1: upon said ice chest is a six point box head.
Speaker 1: But she's already run off into the house. He cuts
Speaker 1: around in the backyard. There's another box head in the
Speaker 1: backyard lying not far from the bus head is her
Speaker 1: prison I D card. He's able to look her up.
Speaker 1: She's got two felony arrest warrants. They bring in a
Speaker 1: track and dog and find her under a pile of
Speaker 1: her own dirty laundry, which is quote wedged between the
Speaker 1: washer and dryer. When you're laundry, when You're laundry has
Speaker 1: become quote wedged somewhere. It's different than like in a basket. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because I don't want to dog on Texas.
Speaker 1: I'm on dog on my home state for a minute,
Speaker 1: because I know I'm reading like bad. Like the sensitivities
Speaker 1: here run high. So a dude in Michigan, this is
Speaker 1: just just this just happened due to Michigan, goes into
Speaker 1: a pet store called I Love My Pets and ask
Speaker 1: some questions about the snakes that are for sale. They
Speaker 1: leave him to be He then, on a security camera,
Speaker 1: puts a four ft ball python down his pants, spends
Speaker 1: four minutes in the store with the snake in his pants.
Speaker 1: There are so many jokes you can make so easily
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna make them. It's it's harder to
Speaker 1: not make the jokes than it doesn't make the jokes.
Speaker 1: Walks around, buys a rat for six bucks. Say there's
Speaker 1: some things I just don't put down my pants. He uh,
Speaker 1: buys a rat for six bucks, walks out. They still
Speaker 1: haven't found the guy in Texas. He'd be dead by now.
Speaker 1: Or It's like Texas wardens are either good or Michigan
Speaker 1: criminals are good. But the Texas game war and articles
Speaker 1: always end with the suspect apprehended, and this guy was
Speaker 1: not apprehended. Unrelated to all this, Uh, I'm walking down
Speaker 1: the road there, Dan, I passed. There's a waffle shop
Speaker 1: in downtown Boseman. It's like a famous breakfast place there,
Speaker 1: and they got a sign out that says, we love
Speaker 1: hashtags like social media hashtags, because we love hashtags because
Speaker 1: they look like waffles. And they got me to thinking,
Speaker 1: have they thought the me too movement was people who
Speaker 1: are just also hungry for breakfast? I was sure this
Speaker 1: is where the podcast was gonna go off the rails,
Speaker 1: and it's terrible. We were we recently layout the tune
Speaker 1: of situation how we've been talking about the tune of
Speaker 1: the expensive tune in how you mislet everyone and had
Speaker 1: to do a correction. Oh right, right, right, rightful everybody
Speaker 1: that recently the tune it was bought for like was
Speaker 1: it a million plus or two million plus? And then
Speaker 1: it happened every year and it was sort of it
Speaker 1: was bad because it put a price on this fish
Speaker 1: that's gonna be over fish if people are getting two
Speaker 1: million dollars for these fish all the time, but it
Speaker 1: turns out that that first fish always just gets that
Speaker 1: kind of money in a um ceremonial buying and um
Speaker 1: as it's been putting numerous times now. It's a nick
Speaker 1: swinging contest um in Japan for the dudes that roll
Speaker 1: in and spend the most money on the first tune
Speaker 1: and it comes to market of the season, so the
Speaker 1: next one after that, I don't know. I forget what
Speaker 1: the numbers. Yeah, I wrote pecker swinging in my notes
Speaker 1: because I heard several people who are bringing youngsters are
Speaker 1: bringing this back to one brings to the reason I
Speaker 1: bring the tune thing up is someone pointed out that
Speaker 1: there's a similar thing that happens at youth livestock auctions
Speaker 1: where there are ceremonial purchases, and just recently in Houston,
Speaker 1: we're here in the Great State of Texas, they had
Speaker 1: to use livestock auction where they shattered every single junior
Speaker 1: livestock auction world record in ten days. Some kid gets
Speaker 1: eighty three thousand dollars for a damn goat. A turkey
Speaker 1: goes for a most been a high fence. A turkey
Speaker 1: goes for a d Some kid gets a broiler chicken.
Speaker 1: She gets to twenty dollars for her broiler chicken. The
Speaker 1: grand champions steer six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: The guy that wasn't about this says, and this is
Speaker 1: why Texas is the greatest state. I looked through the
Speaker 1: photos from the event where you can look at all
Speaker 1: the animals and the people behind it. And if you
Speaker 1: think that there were not a lot of people wearing
Speaker 1: stats and hats and black sports colts, you'd be wrong.
Speaker 1: You'd be wrong for thinking that. Um I had we
Speaker 1: had an interesting note come in. She doesn't identify state,
Speaker 1: and I can't identify in factually, she begins to note,
Speaker 1: but she says, before you read this email, I'm I'm quoting.
Speaker 1: She even put an asterisk next to it, which I
Speaker 1: think is for emphasis. She says, before you read this email,
Speaker 1: note that if anyone reads this to the public in
Speaker 1: any form or fashion and mentions my name, I will
Speaker 1: hunt you down and gut you like a fish. She explained,
Speaker 1: she's a mother of two. What's that go on? She's
Speaker 1: a mother of two. We were recently talking about battle scars,
Speaker 1: like what's the worst outdoor scar you had? And she
Speaker 1: said that was pitiful. We had pitiful scars. She was
Speaker 1: big into sports and she was big into hunting. And
Speaker 1: she's sixteen years old. She gets back from volleyball practice,
Speaker 1: which ran late, and she grabs her twenty gates shotgun
Speaker 1: and runs out to the family's milo field. The hunt doves.
Speaker 1: It does doesn't change her clothes, so she's got her
Speaker 1: volleyball clothes on and she has a run a half
Speaker 1: mile then jump a fence, and she usually kind of
Speaker 1: like climbs over the fence, but she she's in such
Speaker 1: a hurry. She tries a half climb and half jump
Speaker 1: and gets on the bar or gets up on the
Speaker 1: wire and the post tips and she falls on it
Speaker 1: and getting and lands on the ground and feels blood
Speaker 1: running all over her stomach and looks up and she's
Speaker 1: gashed her nipple horribly and passes out. So she wakes
Speaker 1: up a while later, she's sixteen years old, looks and
Speaker 1: she realizes that the barb was cut through her shirt
Speaker 1: through her sports bra, opened her nipple up. She lives
Speaker 1: in a town of two thousand people. She's real nervous
Speaker 1: about words spreading. Goes down her best friend's dad's the doctor.
Speaker 1: He puts eight stitches in it. She goes on to
Speaker 1: say that her husband called that one scarface, which she
Speaker 1: signs it. She signs it secretively. But um, I liked
Speaker 1: the story, but then I got to the part where
Speaker 1: my husband called past tense. And then now I spent
Speaker 1: all my time worrying about what happened to the husband.
Speaker 1: He never got caught that sneak in his pants. Oh,
Speaker 1: it could mean three things. It would mean they split up,
Speaker 1: he passed, or he called that one scar face, but
Speaker 1: then never called it that again. Got it like a fish,
Speaker 1: Got it like the fish. I like that. Gal. If
Speaker 1: you out on a first day and got that story
Speaker 1: thrown at me, I'd be like, buddy, I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would not like hold that as a negative. Do
Speaker 1: do you gotta tell you that? I had several people
Speaker 1: and be like, oh boy, you guys a scar stories
Speaker 1: or kind of sissy. We didn't have any good ones.
Speaker 1: But I was like, well, yeah, but the point is
Speaker 1: it's like experience, and you know who is better to
Speaker 1: follow into the woods, like an old wise person with
Speaker 1: no scars or an old wise person with lots of scars. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: probably the person with no scars. Yeah, if you said, um,
Speaker 1: so I followed this horribly scarred man into the woods,
Speaker 1: he should have seen his nipples. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: about the other nipples, said, trust me, I know the
Speaker 1: way back back to Michigan. This is to put an
Speaker 1: issue to bed. I talked a lot about So I
Speaker 1: grew up in Tonight, Michigan, and down the road from
Speaker 1: us you had to take, I think it wrote down
Speaker 1: Duff Road, Duff turned dirt. You go down the dirt
Speaker 1: Near's twin Light gun Club. And I was talking about
Speaker 1: how I'm not mistaken. You don't you get into the
Speaker 1: foggy recesses of your memory, like the things you kind
Speaker 1: of feel like you remember, but you can't health you
Speaker 1: just heard it or remembered it. And I was saying,
Speaker 1: I feel as though when I was a youngster, they
Speaker 1: would steak like tie up a turkey behind a pilot
Speaker 1: dirt in contestants. This sounds horrible. Contestants would shoot at
Speaker 1: the turkey and whoever hit the turkey brought it home
Speaker 1: and ate it. But then I was like, that can't
Speaker 1: be true. I must be misremembering. My buddy Craig Christensen
Speaker 1: rolled in. He goes Nope, you are not mistaken. He says.
Speaker 1: My dad took one of those turkeys home didn't shot,
Speaker 1: and he remembers his dad had oh six and he
Speaker 1: used it for all these tournaments that were at the
Speaker 1: gun club down the road from my house. He says.
Speaker 1: Not only did they have a thing where they would
Speaker 1: stake at turkey out and shoot at it, they would
Speaker 1: hang dynamite from string and shoot at that. And I
Speaker 1: was called a dynamite shoot, not to be confused with
Speaker 1: a turkey shoot. And then they had a burger shoot.
Speaker 1: He was saying, in a burger shoot, you didn't shoot burger,
Speaker 1: but you shot a target in one burger. This is
Speaker 1: like the end of nature would be that you shoot
Speaker 1: a target and wind ground beef. Um. He goes on
Speaker 1: to say that this old man swapped that twenty five
Speaker 1: oh six for a quote dinky wooden boat, and that
Speaker 1: he's still pissed at him. Last bit of Michigan news, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the Michigan hello, which someone the middle finger,
Speaker 1: which someone who wasn't described it as the finger of
Speaker 1: fellowship to talk about in his area, gets thrown. It
Speaker 1: gets thrown so much as a hello that it is
Speaker 1: now regarded as the finger of fellowship and it's not
Speaker 1: A dude was from like North Dakota or Nebraska, not
Speaker 1: even close to Michigan. But he felt as though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just realized I gave three from figure people from
Speaker 1: Texas a finger just now, and they're probably really pissed.
Speaker 1: A man and not one. Everybody's like, oh, that just
Speaker 1: that nice bearded young gentleman just said hello. Uh hips
Speaker 1: her on the m fetuck the US. No, I don't
Speaker 1: want it. I don't want it. A Michigan woman just
Speaker 1: tested her constitutional right to throw the Michigan Hello, which
Speaker 1: is way off topic for us do we tend to
Speaker 1: focus on wildlife and fishing and whatnot. But becomes interesting
Speaker 1: because it's interesting to me. She gets pulled over by
Speaker 1: a policeman for speeding and he writes her up for
Speaker 1: a lesser violation. Okay, so whatever, you whatever, that is
Speaker 1: lesson speeding, and you're sure it was for speeding. She
Speaker 1: pulled over for speeding, so he was being a nice guy.
Speaker 1: He's being nice. He's like, gonna let you off for
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. What do they call it, I don't know,
Speaker 1: let's just say kind of speeding. She got sight of
Speaker 1: the kind of speeding. She a non moving violation. It
Speaker 1: is what the artist. That's what it said, A non
Speaker 1: moving violation. That doesn't really help expose. We had a
Speaker 1: traffic cop here. There you go. All right, we'll go
Speaker 1: with that. There you go to hang you for that
Speaker 1: in Texas, but in Michigan. But you and a T
Speaker 1: shirt and a button in Michigan. He writes her the thing,
Speaker 1: and then they finish, and so she's got a lesser thing,
Speaker 1: and she decides to as she drives off, give him
Speaker 1: of Michigan Hello, or perhaps the Michigan goodbye. So he
Speaker 1: then re pulls her over, re pulls her over, and
Speaker 1: then gives her the speeding ticket. She appeals this to
Speaker 1: a federal appeals court, and they rule that she has
Speaker 1: a constitutional right to give an officer of Michigan Hello
Speaker 1: if she feels like it. I don't know how I
Speaker 1: feel about this. I feel real good about it, you
Speaker 1: feel good about it. My demeanor when I get pulled over,
Speaker 1: my demeanors be like I started off by being I
Speaker 1: am so sorry. I am so sorry. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: even any cops of finger. I just want the right
Speaker 1: to do that if ever I feel the need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's like, Um, it's not one of those things
Speaker 1: that gives me patriotic stirrings, but it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where I recognize, I can recognize. I reckon. It's
Speaker 1: nice to live in a place I guess to be like,
Speaker 1: it's nice to live in a place where, if you
Speaker 1: so desire, despite your upbringing, two say hello into that
Speaker 1: fashion to an officer of the piece, you would theoretically
Speaker 1: be allowed to do so. So you're kind of celebrating
Speaker 1: this lady on one hand, and then on the other
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my gosh, officer, I'm so sorry. You're correct.
Speaker 1: If I saw her, I would give her the Michigan Hello,
Speaker 1: but it would be I would put my thumb out
Speaker 1: or whatever you need to do to make it different,
Speaker 1: to make it more stinging. Um, okay, here's a good question.
Speaker 1: If you're, uh, you're fishing somewhere okay, and you're doing
Speaker 1: good and someone comes up and they say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: are you catching anything? Yeah? See is that immoral? No?
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, there's this there. There's a book
Speaker 1: called the Good Book, and they get I think they
Speaker 1: give you ten rules. They got to narrow down to
Speaker 1: ten things. One month's da'sn't do? And when only ten, like,
Speaker 1: of all the bad things you can do in the
Speaker 1: whole world, they come up with ten, and and that
Speaker 1: manages to make the list. I changed the subject real fast.
Speaker 1: You answer a question with a question, My god, is
Speaker 1: that a nice sunset? What kind of shades are those? Nice? Half?
Speaker 1: Every day is a good day of fishing. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good to put it. I don't. I call it
Speaker 1: sam back and I don't like it. What do you do? Then?
Speaker 1: You do not lie? Spreading love? Man? Let me come
Speaker 1: on catching a bunch of fish. Well, yeah, it just
Speaker 1: happened to me once where Um, we killed the cow
Speaker 1: elk and she was, I don't know, a couple three
Speaker 1: miles back from the road, we packed out half and
Speaker 1: as we're getting ready to going for the second half. Um,
Speaker 1: I remember this part of the two was a buddy dan.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, we have those beers now, like, no, bro, like,
Speaker 1: we definitely need to go and get the second load.
Speaker 1: And then wow, that becas gonna be too tired later
Speaker 1: to drink. Yeah right, and uh, this fellow pulls up
Speaker 1: in an a t on a TV with his I
Speaker 1: think it was his nephew on the back whatever, and
Speaker 1: he starts asking us about the how the hunt went,
Speaker 1: where we got where we got the cow and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and uh Dan wanted to just just be like telling
Speaker 1: him that it was farther than it was or or
Speaker 1: or and just kind of not give any details about it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why lie about it, man, Like I was,
Speaker 1: you know, because but I didn't like about it either.
Speaker 1: The guy on the A t V s saying like,
Speaker 1: oh well, he actually was like, oh well, good things
Speaker 1: to three miles back. I don't want to put this
Speaker 1: poor kid through something like that when would like yelk hunting,
Speaker 1: you know, so we're looking for one that we can
Speaker 1: just pop off the A t V. I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with the world, you know, No, like I
Speaker 1: wanted to just bring the kid along and having truck
Speaker 1: up there and maybe run into another one, you know.
Speaker 1: So anyhow, Yeah, I don't know. It's just like from
Speaker 1: that moment on, I've always just been like pretty free
Speaker 1: wheel with my hunt. Effisient information in the woods. Uh
Speaker 1: I might have mentioned before we were spring bear hunt
Speaker 1: one time and there was an avalanche shoot you could
Speaker 1: see from the road and kill the bear on the
Speaker 1: avalanche shoot and skinned it and everything. And then later
Speaker 1: I'm standing there with this dude my brother used to
Speaker 1: hang out with, and I comes up and says, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys seeing anything and he says no, and that
Speaker 1: made me feel bad. But then the guy looks at
Speaker 1: his pants, which he's like, got blood from the knee
Speaker 1: down on his pants, and he says, well, looks like
Speaker 1: someone got something. And he looks some straight at the face.
Speaker 1: It goes, that's just some old rabbit blood. Remember, feeling
Speaker 1: like this has gone too far. I Uh, on the
Speaker 1: fishing thing, I say things like yeah, it's okay, or
Speaker 1: yeah we're doing having a you know, decent getting a few.
Speaker 1: But I can't be like, no, my boy weird fishing perch.
Speaker 1: And the guy comes up and yells us how we're
Speaker 1: doing and asked if we're getting to you. My boy
Speaker 1: said a boatload. Then you gotta be like you know,
Speaker 1: he's prone to hyperbole. I stopped a couple on the
Speaker 1: road this year during meal of your season and Idaho
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, truck's coming this way. I'm driving
Speaker 1: down this way and I had just stopped and looked
Speaker 1: at a you know a little three by three mule
Speaker 1: deer buck on the side of the road, like a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards from the road, and uh kind
Speaker 1: of waved him down. It's the last day of the season,
Speaker 1: it said. Couple, husband, wife, I assume, and uh, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: all you get you guys out looking for mule deer
Speaker 1: and the guys like stone face and the ladies kind
Speaker 1: of like and I'm like, well, there's a buck, you know,
Speaker 1: right over here if if you guys still have a
Speaker 1: tag and and he's just like staring, like sizing me up,
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, where is it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll just like parking that unimproved camp site over there
Speaker 1: and then just look up and the deer's right on
Speaker 1: the on the hillside and you'll have to cross the creek.
Speaker 1: But the deer's right there. And he was just having
Speaker 1: none of it. He was like, she's get this whole
Speaker 1: thing over with. Yeah, and she's like, great, here off
Speaker 1: side of the road. Here we go. He think he
Speaker 1: didn't believe you, Yeah, I truly think he was like nope,
Speaker 1: like something something's not right here. Yeah, dude, just messing
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, like like we're gonna miss something. Because
Speaker 1: we're tracking down there. But I tried to pay it forward.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying. It was the mustache cow.
Speaker 1: He saw that mustaches, Like dah, that guy's up to
Speaker 1: no good. He's like, I need I need to before
Speaker 1: I go up there. I'm gonna need to see this
Speaker 1: boy's nipples. Man, you don't fish much? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you do? What do I do? If you're
Speaker 1: cashing much? If you were cashing much, if I was
Speaker 1: conceptually as a hipster um take a long pull them
Speaker 1: of eight pen talking into your your leather trimmed ape,
Speaker 1: your labor is apron, zip up my vest, and then
Speaker 1: I would say no. What like when people say no
Speaker 1: is your is your idea that it's such a finite
Speaker 1: amount of available things there that you like and you
Speaker 1: you're doing You're already doing good. You're doing a good
Speaker 1: enough he hasn't to lie about, and your thing is like,
Speaker 1: I am doing good. I don't know who this person is.
Speaker 1: There's such a finite amount of the resource that I
Speaker 1: would just rather that they didn't do good so I
Speaker 1: could continue to do a little bit good. I'm playing
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate here, but yeah, I would be thinking to
Speaker 1: other things that I did that were nice, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I remember that time I helped that lady across the street. Therefore, therefore, no,
Speaker 1: because I'm a good person. I'm just choosing to be
Speaker 1: selfish right now alright where you size them up and
Speaker 1: you're like have you earned this? And you give them
Speaker 1: a good once over and you're like nope. What if
Speaker 1: it's uh, little children in bonnets, like old fashioned frairy
Speaker 1: children that off, I would look at them and be like,
Speaker 1: you folks are gonna take every fish out of here,
Speaker 1: put it on a mile long stringer, take a picture
Speaker 1: next to it, and then sell them to market. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're weird. That's not what I want. All right, moving on, Um,
Speaker 1: guy wanted to know, uh, if you had remember we
Speaker 1: did a thing now long ago. This is the problem.
Speaker 1: Not long ago, would we had fielded a question that was,
Speaker 1: if you could be one animal, what would you be?
Speaker 1: And I picked a flying squirrel because I liked how
Speaker 1: soft their bellies are, so you would just be like
Speaker 1: rubbing your belly. I would just lay there and rubb
Speaker 1: my tummy. The problem is then a question comes in
Speaker 1: like this, which screws me because I'm stuck in a
Speaker 1: situation where be tempted to have the same answer for
Speaker 1: two questions, where he says, if you had to pick
Speaker 1: one fur to make all of your underwear, what for
Speaker 1: it would it be. Now I had that question coming first,
Speaker 1: I would have said flying squirrel. But now it's gonna
Speaker 1: look like I have a fine squirrel fetish. So so
Speaker 1: I'm stuck with saying there's a term. It's a fur term,
Speaker 1: which could be read two ways. I'm i gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what the I'm not gonna tell you the all
Speaker 1: the way to read it. There's a fur term called
Speaker 1: sheered beaver. What this is? What this is? What it is?
Speaker 1: What it is is? What it is? Is this a beaver?
Speaker 1: A beaver aquatic mammal, like an aquatic road, the largest
Speaker 1: road that we enjoy the presence of here in the US.
Speaker 1: Bills damns, bills, damns. You pluck there's there's there's plucked
Speaker 1: beaver and sheared beaver. You can pluck the guard hairs,
Speaker 1: you pluck the guard hairs from the pelt, so like
Speaker 1: a nice prime pelt, muskrat, whatever. We'll have a lot
Speaker 1: of them have fine like a like a fine underwool,
Speaker 1: and they'll have a guard hair which is a glossy
Speaker 1: and long and nice, and they pluck all those guard
Speaker 1: hairs off there and then sheer it down and it
Speaker 1: makes a real I don't have underwear made out of it,
Speaker 1: but man, you like the feeling that sheered beaver against
Speaker 1: your skin. I I wanted to what I have threatened
Speaker 1: at I have threatened at times to get my wife.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make for ice fishing and stuff. I
Speaker 1: want to make my wife a like a brawl lined
Speaker 1: with it, which you can get. And there are people
Speaker 1: that make it like, I'm not making this up. I'm
Speaker 1: not throwing this out there, and it's like a thing
Speaker 1: that can be done. So that's my answer. Yanni. Janni
Speaker 1: is going with porcupine. No, but I was thinking sheep man,
Speaker 1: because I mean, how could be up with a pretty
Speaker 1: much a pair of Marino boxer shorts. Oh no, they
Speaker 1: don't mean processed. You just gotta be just sheep. Yeah
Speaker 1: for underwear. Yeah, and then I just trying to run
Speaker 1: a flap in the front, flap in the back, and
Speaker 1: really not any underwear anything. I think you gotta go
Speaker 1: seal or Muskoks go. Yeah. I mean, like if we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk cold. Let's get cold. You know? Was this
Speaker 1: only for cold? He didn't say to him, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can't get it right. We're aheaded their turkey on. We've
Speaker 1: been calling it. I was calling it in my head,
Speaker 1: even though if they kept telling me how it was said.
Speaker 1: I was like, you people, y'all know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. It's yano. What I've been told
Speaker 1: by ten guys that think est would remember yano pretty easy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna started calling you yano. Kill any idea. It's
Speaker 1: a frivolous question. You need to for hot weather? Um Like,
Speaker 1: I don't like one of those like Marsupio that's that
Speaker 1: they have down here. Yeah, that's a good idea. Man,
Speaker 1: the skinny the rat with no hide on, no hair
Speaker 1: on him, hairless mole rat. Yeah, what's the construction of
Speaker 1: these underwear? Am I feeling? The fur on? Guy? Honestly
Speaker 1: have to get back to the guy the same way
Speaker 1: that uh we were we were accused of this and
Speaker 1: on Texas, the guy accused of his dissing on on
Speaker 1: tarps t A rps tarps mhm. I have tremendous love
Speaker 1: for the tarp. He's fixed to go on on a
Speaker 1: you know, a bad country hunt and was wondering, like,
Speaker 1: why is it not okay on them? No that we
Speaker 1: ignore him. We didn't know there was like a big
Speaker 1: time tarp advocates out of the tarp tarp sensitive people.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say this, but he's like, why do you
Speaker 1: guys not talk about or address um? I've read everything,
Speaker 1: listened to everything. I'm going on a hunt. Why can't
Speaker 1: I just have a tart? You can't. They were great
Speaker 1: until they were tarps. That's gonna noise at people. Tarts
Speaker 1: make great tents up until the moment that you need
Speaker 1: a tent. A lot of times sleeping under a tarp
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, this is great. You would have
Speaker 1: been just as good with no tarp. A little drizzle,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, you think you're you know, little drizzles. Fine,
Speaker 1: I've stopped under tarps. We pitched them, we string them,
Speaker 1: sleep under them. But they do have their limits. My
Speaker 1: last night under a tarp of two thousand eighteen was
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Eve in Montana and had a sweet set up.
Speaker 1: It's on this real steep ridge and there's some dead fall,
Speaker 1: got my tarp strung out. It was going real light. Actually,
Speaker 1: I took that tart from you, um, and I got
Speaker 1: a fire going in the mouth of it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I had that. The wind kind of like sucked all
Speaker 1: the smoke through the top of that tart. Had a
Speaker 1: real nice heating effect for a good couple of hours.
Speaker 1: It was great. Woke up and there was a bowl
Speaker 1: fifty yards away. Just take a book at it. No,
Speaker 1: I was up there packing out a bowl. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there there was a bigger bowl right next to me,
Speaker 1: which was cool. So he was drawn into the tart.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what pitch did you use,
Speaker 1: very tar um. It would be like like diamond formation, right,
Speaker 1: So you take opposite corners one corner down. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: corner up on the tree. Yeah. I like tarp so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm into like my tarp craft. Explain, explain the diamond pitch.
Speaker 1: This is the least interesting corner up on the tree.
Speaker 1: You stick that out and then you bring the other
Speaker 1: two corners. Is sort of like this and bat wings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like bat wings and stake those in. So you just
Speaker 1: sort of have one open mouth facing the tree that
Speaker 1: you've got this and we are camping by yourself like
Speaker 1: this is a point of pride that you can look
Speaker 1: around to nobody and be like, yeah, see that. You
Speaker 1: can picture there being a guy in the audience who
Speaker 1: took his wife down here, and right now he's kind
Speaker 1: of like it'll get better. What are they talking about?
Speaker 1: What I like to do is take um in. My
Speaker 1: colleagues sometimes tease me about this, but I take bungee cords,
Speaker 1: homemade bungee cords, and every groment or loop in my tarp.
Speaker 1: I rig eight inch loop of bungee because then I
Speaker 1: can speed set it. When it's raining out, I can
Speaker 1: just grab any bush, any rock that's the noise these
Speaker 1: bungees made onto stuff and speed pitch my tart. Do
Speaker 1: you guys, then we got more things to say about this.
Speaker 1: We like tarps, love tarps. Do you guys get a
Speaker 1: guy who's warning this is such a strange question. Um,
Speaker 1: do you guys get pedicures ahead of hunts? I'm not
Speaker 1: even familiar with what exactly happens during a pedocreer pedicure.
Speaker 1: I believe that it goes beyond um getting your tone
Speaker 1: hills clipped. My brother has extraordinarily thick, heavy tone eiles.
Speaker 1: He was telling me and he thinks it's from eating
Speaker 1: so much meat has made his tone hills stick. Ben,
Speaker 1: what's problem that is? I'm just laughing. You've never had
Speaker 1: a pedicure. I think people are looking at me because
Speaker 1: I got the hipster thing going like that. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm laughing, because I feel the whole crowd is like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna tell us what's up? So go on? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah. When I'm nancing around, you know, like
Speaker 1: with my history clothes, I don't want my I don't
Speaker 1: want my feet to be ugly O case I'm wearing
Speaker 1: my strappy shoes. I mean, I do have a pair
Speaker 1: of hiking boots and a pair of ski boots that
Speaker 1: I make sure my toneails are trimmed back before every
Speaker 1: use to prevent any sort of real painment out there.
Speaker 1: That's That's what I was gonna point out is if
Speaker 1: you're like in mountain hiking, I am fastidious about my
Speaker 1: tone nails because if you're descending hills, and especially in
Speaker 1: rigid boots, yeah, you get a little slip and there's
Speaker 1: any there's an imperceptible slip in your foot and if
Speaker 1: your toe and then you take a thousand steps downhill,
Speaker 1: your toneails fall out. They turn blue and fall off,
Speaker 1: which is disconcerting. So if you're rubbing, you know blisters
Speaker 1: and cuts and you know the shorter toenail going into
Speaker 1: the toe next to it. I've seen you. I've seen
Speaker 1: you both. You guys hike around extra tufts like long instances.
Speaker 1: That doesn't hurt that the tone oil situation. You got
Speaker 1: to train up for it. Yeah, cow wears extras in
Speaker 1: the airport and then off to Austin. And let me
Speaker 1: tell you, this is not the country for extra tough
Speaker 1: rubber boots. Uh made a very unsightly unpacking of my
Speaker 1: bag until I got down to my flip flops and
Speaker 1: then shucked my boots and my socks there in the
Speaker 1: Austin airport and got into my flops and felt a
Speaker 1: wave of relief, and everyone else felt another wave. He
Speaker 1: was getting a little soupy whole another waves that that
Speaker 1: kind of like half of my O. Go ahead, honest,
Speaker 1: that reminded me of something I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I've always wanted one and
Speaker 1: a pedicure. Oh yeah, when you get him a foot
Speaker 1: massage while you're getting it, am I right? Whatsage? Yuh,
Speaker 1: why do they call it a massage? You can probably
Speaker 1: just go get that too. I mean, there's other things
Speaker 1: that they do. But we've we've tackled this question before
Speaker 1: or somehow it's come up where like it's been thought of,
Speaker 1: like a good idea to prep your feet for a
Speaker 1: big mountain hunt, being in boots and hike will be
Speaker 1: a good idea to get a pedicure. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try this. I'm gonna try it next time. If you
Speaker 1: get it into the details of it, I'll get into
Speaker 1: the details of it. Not only do I very carefully
Speaker 1: trim my tone nails, but I have a recurring problem
Speaker 1: where every two months or so I need to carve
Speaker 1: out my ingrowns. And I've learned to do with myself
Speaker 1: after paying some holder to do it. I get a
Speaker 1: fat back straight razor. Wait wait wait, you paid a
Speaker 1: hoser to do it, doctor o doctor Okay, So yeah,
Speaker 1: like six hundred bucks, six hundred dollars to a guy
Speaker 1: to do what I now can do in seconds. I
Speaker 1: take a fat back razor, and I get a bunch
Speaker 1: of rubbing alcohol, and I I sanitized my leather man
Speaker 1: and I stanitized a pair of needle those players, and
Speaker 1: I cut them out, and I've done it so much
Speaker 1: they don't even believe anymore. And I do that a
Speaker 1: week or two ahead of like a mountain hunting season.
Speaker 1: I do that a week or two ahead so that
Speaker 1: it has time to heal. Like, that's a lot of
Speaker 1: toe care. If if you've added up the mental energy
Speaker 1: that I've put it, that I put into my toes.
Speaker 1: I can hardly look down on a guy forgetting a pedicure.
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's gonna regret it. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, I would have killed that bowl
Speaker 1: had I not had a pedicure. Yeah. It takes me
Speaker 1: like a week though, to break my feet in to
Speaker 1: like real hiking shape every year. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: I've been doing. But it takes me like the first
Speaker 1: week of archery season to like get back into boot shape,
Speaker 1: just get my feet toughen back up. And I would
Speaker 1: be like, it would be mentally straining on me to think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just got a pedicure and now
Speaker 1: my feet are all soft. When is this going to
Speaker 1: come back to haunt me? Yeah? Or that you might
Speaker 1: smell like the kind of guy that to get a pedicure,
Speaker 1: probably not running that risk. Bears are like, now that
Speaker 1: guy him, I can take good damn, ma'am's imagine myself
Speaker 1: kicked back. Another guy wants to know this. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is a weird one not terribly weird. One guy had
Speaker 1: a question. I'm not evenna I'm not evenna honor, I'm
Speaker 1: not even say it. But this guy's question was this
Speaker 1: um held his body have an ongoing argument? Did he
Speaker 1: feels his body feels like you should brush your teeth
Speaker 1: during hunting season. This guy feels you should not brush
Speaker 1: your teeth during hunting season the whole season. He feels
Speaker 1: that he feels that the toothpaste smell is unnatural. Let
Speaker 1: me come on, I feel like we're getting to like
Speaker 1: someone living under the bridge situation here, whereas like we
Speaker 1: got tarps, our feet smell, we don't brush our teeth,
Speaker 1: we haven't brought like what, we don't need to get
Speaker 1: into that one. Right, I'm cool, cool, Yeah, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is a broad question, how do you find hunting spots?
Speaker 1: But let's not let's not do that, let's do it
Speaker 1: by let's do it by anecdote. Uh, talk about a
Speaker 1: great in a way that would be helpful to listeners.
Speaker 1: You could select hunting spot or two that you got
Speaker 1: that you feel demonstrates an effective approach, or something that
Speaker 1: one ought to keep in mind because as the big
Speaker 1: issue for people. The number one when people cite reasons.
Speaker 1: I think it's state by state, but generally when people
Speaker 1: cite reasons that they quit hunting or want to but don't,
Speaker 1: it's access place to go. I will tell you that
Speaker 1: I have had seasons where I'm like, here's my a spot,
Speaker 1: be spot, see spot and hit my spots and had success,
Speaker 1: and then the very next season I'm like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: only going to spots that I've never been to before,
Speaker 1: which means I can't repeat either. And I've had the
Speaker 1: same level of success. Forcing yourself to go explore exactly
Speaker 1: like I'm getting interrupt Um, you need to go check
Speaker 1: out some new country. And I think that's what it is,
Speaker 1: is just you know, being comfortable with the fact that
Speaker 1: you may not get something, but the reality is, like
Speaker 1: my best spots, I'm still running that same risk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a very good chance I'm not getting something.
Speaker 1: I like the rule to make a rule like this year,
Speaker 1: I cannot go to the same place it's so much fun, too,
Speaker 1: so much fun. I have to go somewhere and then
Speaker 1: you're like, holy ship, there's game everywhere. It's a very
Speaker 1: Western idea, though, when you live in Texas, you didn't
Speaker 1: like there's not you can't, well, I'll just pick another spot,
Speaker 1: Like there's not. There isn't public land to go and pick,
Speaker 1: unless you got a lot of access here, unless you
Speaker 1: got a bunch of rancher buddies. Just not in reality
Speaker 1: to be have a b and C tell your spouse, Um,
Speaker 1: I made a vow not to hunt the same place.
Speaker 1: That's why I bought another property, at least the force
Speaker 1: properties to keep myself on my toes. When a man
Speaker 1: makes a vow, I briefly the thing that that I
Speaker 1: did when I lived in Illinois and again before I
Speaker 1: lived to Texas. I live there, and it's similar. There's
Speaker 1: no The public land that is there is either overrun
Speaker 1: or you have to draw a spot, and you can
Speaker 1: sit in a certain duck pit or a certain blind
Speaker 1: and it's just not the way that I like to hunt. Well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna love my story because my story is not
Speaker 1: a My story is a private land story. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: get there. Just give me a preview. UM, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to titillate you. Thank you. I've I met a guide.
Speaker 1: We were I don't know. I was at a trade
Speaker 1: show or something to met a guy. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm up in Pike County, Illinois. I said, I'd love
Speaker 1: to come up and just check out your operation and
Speaker 1: learn about how you managed deer and you know, as
Speaker 1: a writer, maybe read an article. I went up there.
Speaker 1: We struck up a relationship. We got the drinking beer.
Speaker 1: He was a big I remember him being a big
Speaker 1: Shania Twain fan. So I was forced to sit and
Speaker 1: drink wine with him and listen to Chania Twain. Um,
Speaker 1: drinking wine. Listen, I know it's playing right into the nerative.
Speaker 1: And he fed for I'm well, I'm open, I'm wide open.
Speaker 1: We're in the trust tree, We're in the next. Um.
Speaker 1: I befretted this feller over Shania Twayne and wine, and
Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, I'd love to come hunt. He
Speaker 1: was complaining that all his clients wanted to go and
Speaker 1: hunt his other properties that weren't around his house, but
Speaker 1: the best hunting in the Biggest Deer were literally right
Speaker 1: off his back porch. And the kind of his back
Speaker 1: forty area. So we struck up a deal where I
Speaker 1: would help him guide white tails, which is getting up early,
Speaker 1: driving a dude to a tree stand, making sure he
Speaker 1: didn't fall out, and then drive him back, and then
Speaker 1: I would go and hunt his back forty where no one,
Speaker 1: none of his clients wanted to hunt just for the
Speaker 1: you know, just for the work of driving dudes back
Speaker 1: and forth to their tree stands because they needed an
Speaker 1: extra guy. So I think in this state, in Texas,
Speaker 1: you definitely have to understand that give and take with
Speaker 1: a landowner or a god or an outfit or or
Speaker 1: whoever it is to get that access that you want.
Speaker 1: It's less of it, you know, you don't there's not
Speaker 1: so much open ground, so you have to kind of
Speaker 1: pick and choose. Doug during in his place in Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: he started a thing where he I don't want to
Speaker 1: say he formalized it, but he started a thing where
Speaker 1: people that I don't wanna get Dug in legal troubles.
Speaker 1: I can't think, Yeah, he's probably be aware of this. Doug.
Speaker 1: Guys think where people that want to hunt on Dugs
Speaker 1: place just like an understanding. Did they help him with
Speaker 1: some stuff and he's trying he's got a ripe parian area.
Speaker 1: He's trying to replan it, resede it in native vegetation,
Speaker 1: and it's like folks to hunt the farm happened to
Speaker 1: like to help me re se native vegetation along the creek,
Speaker 1: and it's a very rewarding experience for all. He says.
Speaker 1: I told the story for my favorite permission thing was
Speaker 1: I had a farm that I very gradually got a
Speaker 1: like February squirrel hunting permission to do a single squirrel hunt.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like come and go as you please.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I suppose this February if you
Speaker 1: want to come out for a day, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. And we go and get some squirrels, and
Speaker 1: my body, I think we got a half dozen squirrels
Speaker 1: on this guy's place. And I started texting him photos
Speaker 1: of all the stuff we were making with the squirrels.
Speaker 1: He then comes back with, I don't care what you
Speaker 1: guys want to hunt. Have had it, dear turkey. Whatever.
Speaker 1: He just was like a pragmatic man being a guy
Speaker 1: in egg It's pragmatic man like to see, you know,
Speaker 1: the fruits of the earth respected saw that and for
Speaker 1: whatever reason to click with him. Not for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: It's just like spoke to his sensibilities. Waste not, want not. Oh,
Speaker 1: and you guys demonstrated that you appreciated, you know, the
Speaker 1: fruits of the of the land, so to speak. And
Speaker 1: it was his land right So or he's like, man,
Speaker 1: these guys are a couple wait jobs starting. I'd like
Speaker 1: to talk to these guys more. It's just a simple
Speaker 1: vetting process really on his end. But we've done well
Speaker 1: agatting permission in Texas. They I don't want to say where, No,
Speaker 1: we can't do we talk about it. Mike. Now all
Speaker 1: these thoughts already went through my head. You already thought
Speaker 1: about not talking about his approach. Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: his approach matters so much. It's just that, like we
Speaker 1: had good law of games. I mean, not only did
Speaker 1: we get hunting permissions, but guys were signing location releases,
Speaker 1: which means that you know, they're saying that we can
Speaker 1: film on their property. Like the day we met him,
Speaker 1: you know, within five minutes and meeting them shaking hands.
Speaker 1: I feel comfortable saying this. There is a guy we know,
Speaker 1: not from the state, who goes to a school which
Speaker 1: is which is regionally popular, and he does work at
Speaker 1: the school researching an animal that's regionally not popular, and
Speaker 1: he has great luck establishing his affiliation with the popular
Speaker 1: school and his animosity towards the not popular animal and
Speaker 1: enjoys enjoys. I think he puts out about success rate
Speaker 1: on permissions that is very good. It might not be
Speaker 1: the same for white tailed deer, you know, but for
Speaker 1: some birds that eat a lot of grain. But there,
Speaker 1: but there are different ways of getting around it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how anybody here have the lone star tick deer where
Speaker 1: you become allergic to meet Did you just raise your hand?
Speaker 1: My uncle just recently that he's got and that's the
Speaker 1: So your uncle recently found out that he's got the
Speaker 1: thing one gets where one becomes allergic to meet from
Speaker 1: eating from getting bit by a tick. This guy, there's
Speaker 1: a crazy story a guy wrote in UM pretty long
Speaker 1: when a very interesting story that I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: distill down. His mom's a nurse, but he gets bit
Speaker 1: by a bunch of ticks, eventually gets sick. Um. They're
Speaker 1: drinking beer, they're eating dear meat, drinking beer, and they
Speaker 1: think that he has somehow had like a beer and
Speaker 1: was suffering from alcohol poisoning, like something happened where the beer.
Speaker 1: That turns out he'd established the meat allergy from the
Speaker 1: associated with the loan the loan startic right, loan startic
Speaker 1: virus um not only that cheese, and then he discovers
Speaker 1: in a way that lands him in the emergency room
Speaker 1: gummy bears, meat cheese and gummy bears. My kids would
Speaker 1: be bumed. It's a bad deal. It's called the lone
Speaker 1: startick because it's not just here in Texas. No, he
Speaker 1: wasn't in Texas. I didn't tell how he wasn't in Texas.
Speaker 1: That wanted people here to feel included. Yea, he's in
Speaker 1: a neighboring state. What would you do? I mean, we've
Speaker 1: talked about it, but what would you do? Like, how
Speaker 1: did affect your relationship to honey man hunting deer? It
Speaker 1: would be hard to continue to do it. It would
Speaker 1: be hard to continue to do it, it would. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you would. I don't know how I would.
Speaker 1: I thought that to be like the biggest nightmare as
Speaker 1: a hunter. You go out hunting, you get bit by
Speaker 1: a tick, and then you're allergic to the thing. You
Speaker 1: were going after. It's almost like the dear scent, the
Speaker 1: damn tip. Yeah, it would be devastating. I would start fishing.
Speaker 1: I would find out all the things you could do.
Speaker 1: Someone once told me that monkey meat, that you can
Speaker 1: have the lone star tick meat allergy and still eat
Speaker 1: monkey meat. I don't know if that can't be true.
Speaker 1: Let's go with no. But that's not gonna that. That
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the direction I went. I'll tell you I
Speaker 1: came down the direction you would be gone monkey meat
Speaker 1: directions that would not I came down hunting with banded
Speaker 1: last June here in Texas where we're hunting what what
Speaker 1: part remember Sonora hunting Sonora and uh first tick I
Speaker 1: had was a lone star tick and then proceeded to
Speaker 1: have like fifteen more of them throughout the week. Um
Speaker 1: got home to Idaho at the time, had a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks later had like bowl's eye tick bite. Yea.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how relieved I was to find
Speaker 1: out I had limes disease. Yeah, as long as it's
Speaker 1: not the meat thing, it would be so so hard.
Speaker 1: Like the food aspect is such a driving force behind
Speaker 1: you know, seasons go on for a long time. It
Speaker 1: gets like it gets to be a lot. But by
Speaker 1: the time waterfowl season comes around, I've spent a ton
Speaker 1: of time in the woods. What gets me out is
Speaker 1: not the hunting. What gets me out is like, it
Speaker 1: would be really great to have some big fat mallard
Speaker 1: breasts in the freezer and for that to be like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can't eat them. But because it's only read meat, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how darc falls into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty rare, and it sounds like it's a little
Speaker 1: bit hit and miss. Like this brother here having the
Speaker 1: cheese and gummy bear thing makes you think it's throwing
Speaker 1: a bit of a wild card at you. Those ticks.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the guy that rolled in
Speaker 1: saying that they had the buddy that was allergic to
Speaker 1: everything else about a deer, but not the meat, and
Speaker 1: thus when they went out, he got to pull the trigger,
Speaker 1: but then he couldn't touch the deer. I believe he
Speaker 1: couldn't got it, he couldn't skin, he couldn't out. Seriously,
Speaker 1: you're allergic to hunting, that's what this guy. This guy
Speaker 1: was saying. My body always said that, and I thought
Speaker 1: he's a liar, and it turns out he's not lying.
Speaker 1: To figure it out a little couple of times, it's
Speaker 1: like from deer first, but you need to meet your
Speaker 1: fine Why you why are you hunched up so much
Speaker 1: like that? If you keep doing that, you're gonna sit
Speaker 1: like me and you get older. Man, sit up where
Speaker 1: it's too late. I'm gonna sit up right now. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at you. Uh yeah, I did take note
Speaker 1: of that. You're no, I've got these kids. These kids
Speaker 1: are great kids, um real, they're They're very poised, articulate,
Speaker 1: bright eyed kids. I like those guys. Um I what
Speaker 1: were we talking about? Igot the praise and those good
Speaker 1: A good excuse any work in the world. The guy. Yes,
Speaker 1: the guy was saying that that like he can hunt,
Speaker 1: but he can't gut, drag, skin, nothing, and then he eats,
Speaker 1: which sounds like it sounds like an African safari. It's
Speaker 1: like he probably developed that allergy shortly after his Safari.
Speaker 1: Can bring up because it wasn't in your notes really
Speaker 1: we were talking about, but I kind of bring up
Speaker 1: that email we just recently got about. You want to
Speaker 1: violate my notes about fooling people to eat elk mey,
Speaker 1: oh no, we talked about this though, but not the
Speaker 1: not the reason not to follow up. Go ahead, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know where you're going with this, but
Speaker 1: I trust you. Well, this guy in there at camp.
Speaker 1: The rule was when it was an elk camp, when
Speaker 1: a bull got killed, that you better show up at
Speaker 1: camp with the heart and the testicles. And that was
Speaker 1: a dinner. Okay, Well, there's this one guy in camp.
Speaker 1: It was like not participating in in in the Rocky
Speaker 1: Mount oyster part of this. You know, everybody else was
Speaker 1: in camps, like, come on, really, but he wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was a few days
Speaker 1: later or maybe another hunt later, but anyways, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of grouse get shots. They also have some testicles
Speaker 1: in camp, so they have a big no some bull
Speaker 1: testicles in camp, so they have a big grouse feed.
Speaker 1: They also happened to fry up some bowl testicles. Everybody
Speaker 1: else eats grouse. This guy eats the bull testicles and
Speaker 1: at the end of the meal he says to his
Speaker 1: honey companions, we should just quit hunting alcohol together because
Speaker 1: these ground or where it's at, do you believe that
Speaker 1: that's true. Yes, you think that a guy. You think
Speaker 1: that there's a guy who's got the wherewith all in
Speaker 1: life to wind up in a situation where he's at
Speaker 1: least out in the woods with other people who would
Speaker 1: mistake a grouse a chunk of grouse. Made chunk of
Speaker 1: grouse for chunk of rocky Mountain oyster. True, Rocky, it
Speaker 1: would be the reverse, You would mistake the oyster for
Speaker 1: the grouse. Sorry, yeah, yeah, if he had never had
Speaker 1: grouse made sure good. I like that story. Thanks for sharing,
Speaker 1: you welcome, But is it okay? I mean that's what
Speaker 1: in that case? Yeah. I only think this is what
Speaker 1: we talked about tricking people because I've tricked people and
Speaker 1: eating things they didn't want to eat. I only think
Speaker 1: it's not I only think it's okay. It's only justifiable
Speaker 1: if you're not putting someone in situation where you're tricking
Speaker 1: them into violating a religious prohibition or you're tricking them
Speaker 1: into violating like a like an ethics thing, like you
Speaker 1: never served someone and they'd be like, ha, that's your
Speaker 1: Remember when your grandma died, you know, like it's like
Speaker 1: our people grandma, Yeah, so what But and if you're
Speaker 1: just tricking someone because they're squeamish or being annoying. I
Speaker 1: think that's totally fine. It would not be fine to
Speaker 1: trick someone into into like I said of religio, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a wide difference between an elkantastical and a
Speaker 1: quail breast. That's what you're telling me, not a breast breast.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what we what we discussed before. We
Speaker 1: discussed before where a guy was saying, I have a
Speaker 1: roommate that won't eat wild just won't eat wild game.
Speaker 1: So what we do is we feed the roommate wild game,
Speaker 1: but just don't tell them what it is because it's annoying,
Speaker 1: and so we just feed him it and eventually we're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, you know what, do shut up because
Speaker 1: you've been eating dear meat every night in your pasta
Speaker 1: like that, that's all dear meat, So let's not hear
Speaker 1: about the wild game thing anymore. He was like, is
Speaker 1: that okay? Or is that bad? And I pointed out
Speaker 1: at the time that I only think it's bad to
Speaker 1: trick people if you would be putting them in a
Speaker 1: situation where you're putting them in a thing where they're
Speaker 1: where you're violating, but you're tricking them into violating some
Speaker 1: kind of sacrament. Or it'd be like you have a
Speaker 1: person that's that they're they're committed, and they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: committed vegan, and they decided they don't want to contribute
Speaker 1: anyway to animal suffering, and then you give them a
Speaker 1: thing and you're like, Hai, tricked you, right. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's cool. I don't think it's cool. But if
Speaker 1: someone's just annoying, like they're just annoying and dumb or whatever,
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to trick them. If they're just
Speaker 1: being squeamish. You find what I'm saying nance that's anti bush.
Speaker 1: I prefer the hard way. My preference is the hard
Speaker 1: way at be like, Stephen, this is the meat. I
Speaker 1: know you think you do not like it, but this
Speaker 1: is what the story is. Is what I've done to it.
Speaker 1: Please try a bite. And I like I like that
Speaker 1: approach because I want people like face it head on
Speaker 1: and then there's no like second guessing. Just turn the
Speaker 1: lights down, little plains access boys. Yeah good, but I
Speaker 1: do yeah that there is a path of least resistance
Speaker 1: that can lead to a good result. As well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've done some trickery. Yeah, we're convinced that someone during
Speaker 1: the what do you what do you give me? The
Speaker 1: labby and smirk for I'm just loving you. During the
Speaker 1: pre show reception, we talked someone to get we talked.
Speaker 1: We tried to talk someone in to getting excited about
Speaker 1: squirrel meat. We also had a guy I say, uh,
Speaker 1: he says, I grew up so far out in the
Speaker 1: country we had to drive towards town to go hunting.
Speaker 1: You know what, when we're talking about the lone star
Speaker 1: tick and and all these other things there, you know,
Speaker 1: diseases and whatnot you can get. It's got a lot
Speaker 1: for me. Having kids, I become like, I can see
Speaker 1: how some parents have kids and get weird about the
Speaker 1: risks because things that I never ever thought of I
Speaker 1: now think of with kids around. It's partly because I'm
Speaker 1: concerned for them, and it's partly I'm concerned for me
Speaker 1: should something happen to them, how it would be received
Speaker 1: by my wife. So we're to squirrel hunting last weekend,
Speaker 1: and we got a squirrel that had it had lost
Speaker 1: a lot of its hair down its sides. It was
Speaker 1: obviously rubbing because it was symmetrical and you can see
Speaker 1: but your mind like nob I wouldn't pay attention to it.
Speaker 1: And my kids they run around and find like hulking,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They run over and it's
Speaker 1: just like the squirrels everywhere, and it's around their neck.
Speaker 1: It's like half in their shirt. There's really get into
Speaker 1: and um, and I become you know, they get that
Speaker 1: psycho somatic where I'm itching and I'm studying where I'm
Speaker 1: itching and there's nothing there, and I'm realizing that I'm
Speaker 1: having like the things that you just are so worried
Speaker 1: about someone else getting something that it happens to you,
Speaker 1: and it's it's not welcome to me. Like I've looked
Speaker 1: at the world as being slightly more hazardous now that
Speaker 1: I have kids, and when I don't, I never thought
Speaker 1: about getting the plague hunting squirrels. So this wasn't a
Speaker 1: flying squirrel then, because you'd have been. But now I
Speaker 1: like walk around like hyper aware of all these things ticks.
Speaker 1: My quick side note. I missed that hunt, um, which
Speaker 1: I always go on. I'm real bombed. I miss it
Speaker 1: good reason, that batter reason. But I had to miss
Speaker 1: it some family obligations. But Yeah, Yanni had his grandfather
Speaker 1: passed away. But with allost squirrel it's just fat. This
Speaker 1: could be it's like like eyst shot. I thought we
Speaker 1: killed a house cat. Yeah, like when you skin them
Speaker 1: like far and messed up shot of house cat. It
Speaker 1: almost looks like large on their haunches when you skin
Speaker 1: them greasy and you know when those house cats start
Speaker 1: to rub a little bit of hair, you know what.
Speaker 1: The coolest squirrel hunting thing that ever happened to me
Speaker 1: happened perhaps too too interesting squirrell things happened to me.
Speaker 1: This abrahunt is conwoods and there's an invasive plant called
Speaker 1: a Russian olive. And I think that the Russian olive,
Speaker 1: the invasive Russian olive, I believe makes areas habitable for
Speaker 1: squirrels that previously weren't habitable. I think that if you looked,
Speaker 1: if you mapped the westward expansion of fox squirrels in
Speaker 1: large Riparian areas, it would it would mirror. This is
Speaker 1: just a guess, it would mirror Russian olive invasion. Like
Speaker 1: the alves. I'm crawling through a bunch of Russian alf
Speaker 1: I hadn't see anything a little bit, and we see
Speaker 1: one way off, way the hell off from the tree.
Speaker 1: And my kid, my eight year old, is very I
Speaker 1: don't mean to toot my own horn here a little bit,
Speaker 1: but he's a very good squirrel spotter. He's possible way off.
Speaker 1: And we're crawling through a bunch of thick Russian oli,
Speaker 1: just just getting ready to head over to the area
Speaker 1: with Brody, and I see it almost I thought I
Speaker 1: was hallucinating, because I see there's like the sun's real
Speaker 1: bright kind of breaking through, and I see the perfect
Speaker 1: shadow of a squirrel, a shadow, like a perfect shadow
Speaker 1: of a squirrel across in front of me, and I
Speaker 1: think I'm hallucinating and dying or something, you know, like
Speaker 1: I've I've entered the afterlife. And I looked and he's
Speaker 1: just right here, going over, and it cast his shadow
Speaker 1: to look like he was crossing the ground in front.
Speaker 1: The other very interesting thing I saw we had to
Speaker 1: working up in a tree and one goes into a hole,
Speaker 1: turns around and comes out to defend his whole to
Speaker 1: not let his buddy in, which leaves his buddy in
Speaker 1: a situation of being stuck in the tippy top of
Speaker 1: a cotton wood and torn between the vulnerability he's feeling
Speaker 1: with us lining up on him and fighting it out
Speaker 1: with the dude in the whole. Like, if I was
Speaker 1: a better man, I would tell you that we didn't
Speaker 1: get that squirrel, but we got him. And it's still
Speaker 1: I still have a heavy heart. I have a heavy
Speaker 1: heart about what those two went up went through up
Speaker 1: in that tree. But it really shows you where a
Speaker 1: squirrels allegiance is. He's like that squirrel is the dude
Speaker 1: who's fishing and he's doing good and says he's not
Speaker 1: squirrels Like he's like, bro, I got a good Why
Speaker 1: would I care how you have it? It's a nice hole.
Speaker 1: It was a weird deal and um, we're just talking
Speaker 1: to Uh, I can't who we're talking to. Marrow's comment
Speaker 1: your kids, it was you was saying that you were
Speaker 1: hung with your kids and they saw a squirrel poking
Speaker 1: out of a hole and then learning to like having
Speaker 1: the very uh important realization is that there he is
Speaker 1: and you could get him, but you can't get him
Speaker 1: because if you get him, he's gonna fall back into
Speaker 1: the hole. And we had that problem with this one
Speaker 1: of trying to convince my eight year old who he's got,
Speaker 1: like a Kevin Murphy esque uh desire to not let
Speaker 1: any squirrels get away, and to to to convince him
Speaker 1: of the idea that we would leave that squirrel for
Speaker 1: fear of not retrieving it was tough. It was tough.
Speaker 1: He was ready to we would get a chainsaw. There's
Speaker 1: some there's like it's you know, we have three grown
Speaker 1: adults here. There's certainly there's a way to get that tree.
Speaker 1: Talking about ladders, like we got ladders now, yeah, we learned. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe like, uh, what's the whole system when you were
Speaker 1: climbing trees um as an arborist, right, you throw the
Speaker 1: sandbag over and then you run the rope. We didn't
Speaker 1: we Yeah, I know what you're talking about. We didn't
Speaker 1: do that. You can use you can use archery, bow
Speaker 1: fishing arrows. Oh yeah, you set a line with the
Speaker 1: bow fishing arrow. That's good idea. You shoot the bull
Speaker 1: fishing line all over, then pull smaller like para cord
Speaker 1: over that, then use that the hoys stuff and then
Speaker 1: you just needed is a jumar device. Right, you climb
Speaker 1: with senders. We never used the senders. We use a
Speaker 1: suicide not um. Same thing though, right where we were
Speaker 1: with the tarps. Sorry, the conversationally two people and I
Speaker 1: don't remember real serious because I'm with Jimmy. I don't
Speaker 1: want to let all these squirrels go and they get
Speaker 1: in the hole. Right, A ladder seems a little cumber something.
Speaker 1: But if we were just packing like a harness in
Speaker 1: one length of rope, Yeah, but then you have to
Speaker 1: do the equation of like how much squirrel meat are
Speaker 1: you gonna get for how much time on one tree?
Speaker 1: Whereas you leave that tree, that's when you've you've you've
Speaker 1: crossed some line where the amount of squirrel meat is
Speaker 1: not as important as how many squirrel America. This is Texas,
Speaker 1: we get the squirrel. Okay, Texas to leave some squirrel
Speaker 1: on the tree. America. Uh yeah, I I I struggle
Speaker 1: over because I know that even some of the tricks
Speaker 1: that that Kevin Murphy talks about, for for rustling the
Speaker 1: squirrel out of a hole in a tree, would be
Speaker 1: completely unacceptable for deer. If you met a guy and
Speaker 1: he's like, well we're having a hard time finding deer,
Speaker 1: so we burned them out, it's like it doesn't go
Speaker 1: over well. Yeah, people can right in to say it
Speaker 1: to us. Hey, you know what you do is you
Speaker 1: go to Mad Dave's Fireworks and get a bunch of
Speaker 1: smoke bombs, and then you don't have any problem with
Speaker 1: squirrels and trees anymore if you smoke them out. So
Speaker 1: you do, you just wind up with like a thing
Speaker 1: um in muskrat trapp When I was a muskrat trapper, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you read muskrat articles, and most muskrat trapping
Speaker 1: articles would include the need to leave behind some seed
Speaker 1: right like the first pole, Like you make you set
Speaker 1: up water body the first pole. You know, you get
Speaker 1: sixty seventy of your traps, you're gonna have a muskrat
Speaker 1: next day it's forty. And then instead of like sticking
Speaker 1: around for the ten you just get out and leave
Speaker 1: some there and then you come back next year and
Speaker 1: everything's great. So that's like a way to think about
Speaker 1: the ones that get in the holes is like you know,
Speaker 1: when you dig a home, put a seed in it
Speaker 1: that nature made that hole in its seed is in
Speaker 1: the hole, and then yet leave it in there. I
Speaker 1: haven't tried to sign my boy yep, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try it on him. Hey is the guy named less
Speaker 1: Mayo here? No, he had he had an interesting story
Speaker 1: that sounds like a fake namewich. I wouldn't think so,
Speaker 1: but the level of detail less Mayo extra Mustard also wrote,
Speaker 1: Here's why I don't think it's a fake name. Here's
Speaker 1: why I don't think it's a fake name. The level
Speaker 1: of detail he gets into about his situation in life
Speaker 1: and whatnot led me to believe it's l E. S. Mayo.
Speaker 1: Like Mayo clinic leads me to believe that it's that
Speaker 1: uh did it's a person because it would have been
Speaker 1: a laborate, no possible gain scenario to write in under it.
Speaker 1: He wasn't like, um, by the way, send me a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, I'm a crown, I'm the crown prince of right.
Speaker 1: He just guys throwing out an interesting thing on the
Speaker 1: subject dip. He used to hang out with a ex convict,
Speaker 1: and he was saying, the convicts like, if you got dip,
Speaker 1: they're concerned about sanitation. So this guy would carry plastic
Speaker 1: spoons in his pocket, and whenever he took a dip,
Speaker 1: he would take a spoon out, his clean spoon out
Speaker 1: and spoon out a dip to put in his mouth.
Speaker 1: And he was always curious about this, But if someone
Speaker 1: else asked him for a dip, he gets another clean
Speaker 1: spoon out and you spoon out a dip and put
Speaker 1: it in, and that way there's no cross contamination. And
Speaker 1: in jail you can sell dips to people without having
Speaker 1: people worry about where your hands have been, Like you're
Speaker 1: selling single dip, single dip, you're selling spoonfuls of dip
Speaker 1: to people. Also on the subject to dip, Ben Bailey
Speaker 1: writes us in a Lot, a friend of ours writes
Speaker 1: in a Lot about the comments. He was reading a
Speaker 1: book Distant Summers, which is there's there's this explorer p J.
Speaker 1: Down PG Downs, and he has a travelog about being
Speaker 1: in northern Canada in the nineteen thirties doing river trips,
Speaker 1: and he talks about the Chippewan. Indians would make up
Speaker 1: names for white people based on visual attributes. So they
Speaker 1: like throw a nickname like Lavin eagle whatever, right, they
Speaker 1: throw a nickname at people based on things. So there
Speaker 1: was Ta Tootna, which was this guy, the little fellow.
Speaker 1: There was one guy he hung out with that you tobacco.
Speaker 1: He's a dipper, and the Indians called him the man
Speaker 1: with two assholes, which I like tremendously on the subject
Speaker 1: of on the subject Remember talking about someone in Texas
Speaker 1: that was an overlyne I just didn't get it. Can
Speaker 1: you explain it? You see now? Yeah? No, Um, that
Speaker 1: was that was a special one for just the people
Speaker 1: to get it. Remember talking about that. That's that we're
Speaker 1: talking about a guy in Texas who had vowed to
Speaker 1: and he was someone who was influential in popularizing food
Speaker 1: plots just bringing a bell. I can't remember his name.
Speaker 1: There's a gentleman who was very influential and the and
Speaker 1: conceiving of and popularizing and fine tuning food plots. Uh.
Speaker 1: And his his latest thing is he's getting into he's
Speaker 1: trying to grow Um, he's trying to grow a new
Speaker 1: world record bass. But it's like if you're familiar in
Speaker 1: for farm mank, like you can't farm, maybe they can't. Now.
Speaker 1: When I was more familiar with the firm market, UM,
Speaker 1: it was just a known thing that you could not
Speaker 1: in domestication capture the quality with domestic mank farm raised mank.
Speaker 1: You couldn't capture the quality of a wild mink. There's
Speaker 1: something about his lifestyle and diet and vigor. They would
Speaker 1: produced a are more luxurious pelt. And no matter what
Speaker 1: you did to make the conditions right with ranch mink,
Speaker 1: you couldn't make a ranch mink. A ranch mink was
Speaker 1: like as good as a muskrat could never arranchment couldn't
Speaker 1: aspire to a mink. And this thing with raising bass
Speaker 1: as someone saying there's just something about large scale bodies
Speaker 1: of water that provides so many things that a bass
Speaker 1: needs throughout the year. And he's got like the Shmorges
Speaker 1: board in different places to go and ways to find
Speaker 1: the right temperature and optimize the situation. That it's actually
Speaker 1: because I was like bemoaning the state of the world
Speaker 1: that some guy would now produce a large mouth bass
Speaker 1: and like a cement, you know, swimming pool or something
Speaker 1: in some ichthyologists or pointing out that it's actually a
Speaker 1: very difficult thing to do. It's like it's hard to
Speaker 1: beat mother nature. Uh, it's not with bucks, but in fish,
Speaker 1: it's hard to beat mother nature. But this guy, uh,
Speaker 1: one of my buddies who's a big waterfowl hunter. He
Speaker 1: he was writing in about this reservoir and atch one
Speaker 1: this is kind of screwed up lake. You might have
Speaker 1: heard of this Count Diefenbaker. Yeah, you notice, like I
Speaker 1: got offered a bartending job up there one time. Oddly enough,
Speaker 1: I had no idea you're gonna bring that can after
Speaker 1: I talk about this can you remember talk about your
Speaker 1: fishing trip. So he's at Lake Diifenbocher and he's not
Speaker 1: at it. But what happened is, I believe it's differ.
Speaker 1: Some group of folks has a genetically engineered trip Lloyd
Speaker 1: rainbow trout that they're commercially raising. Okay, they're sterile and
Speaker 1: they have them been growing pens somehow or another. In
Speaker 1: a flooding event, five hundred thousand sterile genetically modified organism
Speaker 1: rainbows get into the lake. They have three sets of
Speaker 1: chromosomes instead of to. Their growth rate is much higher
Speaker 1: than a nonaltered wild rainbow um since they never breathe,
Speaker 1: they just focus in size. So this happens. Then a
Speaker 1: guy shatters the world record in two thousand seven. In
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, his twin brother crushes his world record
Speaker 1: by five pounds. So now the new world record forty
Speaker 1: eight pounds is a GMO sterile farm pond escaped rainbow.
Speaker 1: Come on, Well, it's so weird because on the BC side,
Speaker 1: the old triploid rainbow thing is huge. Like those fish
Speaker 1: are in a bunch of different bodies of water, and
Speaker 1: so I guess the difference here is like these were
Speaker 1: reard specifically just to eat out of you know, farmed
Speaker 1: a farm facility runs the cement run situation. But then
Speaker 1: they got into the big lake. I've seen the page
Speaker 1: didn't fact check him on. This's not gonna wring his
Speaker 1: neck if it's not accurate. No, Well, I can all
Speaker 1: I can say with out looking at the internet right
Speaker 1: now is when I was up there, world record rainbow
Speaker 1: had come out of the lake and it's like the
Speaker 1: most slawbish, disgusting looking trout you've ever seen. But people
Speaker 1: are super fired up on it and it's a cool.
Speaker 1: But but at what point is it not a fish?
Speaker 1: He calls it a frank and fish. Yeah, what's a
Speaker 1: huge lake, you know, So I think, like the hunting
Speaker 1: of that fish in that lake, it's still gonna take
Speaker 1: you some time to find find those fish, but you
Speaker 1: agree that there's a point at which it ceases to
Speaker 1: be a fish. If I made a robot, it looked
Speaker 1: like a giant rainbow and it was fifty pounds. Would
Speaker 1: you allow me in the world record. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: not even comparing apples to oranges here that it's it's
Speaker 1: like pomegranate and apples oranges. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a point at which yes I do,
Speaker 1: and you don't think that he's founded. Man, I are
Speaker 1: like the most record books. Hunting has prevented the record
Speaker 1: books from being infiltrated by imposters. Yeah yeah, although they
Speaker 1: still try. Um boy, I don't. I don't recall anybody
Speaker 1: ever actually actually caring about this. Um let me. So
Speaker 1: you're saying the state of their stocksis fish too, I'm not.
Speaker 1: This is Saskatchewan in BC. Those triploid rainbows are all
Speaker 1: over the place as just stockers, yep, as just like
Speaker 1: a sport fishing opportunity because they're i mean they're huge,
Speaker 1: and um they're pretty selective. You know, they're after like
Speaker 1: all the micey shrimps. So people use really a Abrian
Speaker 1: bomber set ups for him. But this is a big
Speaker 1: body of water and it's an incredible waterfowl area. When
Speaker 1: I had dogs, that's where it would go up and
Speaker 1: and hunt them for quite a while. Every year and
Speaker 1: if a farmer's duck got away. Um man, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't know the answer,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it needs to be poked and
Speaker 1: prod of that and thought about, yes, there should be
Speaker 1: an asterisk next to the world record. Yeah, they just says, hey,
Speaker 1: this is she'd be like, hey, you know, heads up
Speaker 1: before one get too excited. Well like in New Zealand,
Speaker 1: you know and the oh you know that there is
Speaker 1: in Indiana that kid killed the escaping farm deer like
Speaker 1: somebody had a high offence operation as they do that
Speaker 1: some deer got out kids sitting tree stamp on his
Speaker 1: Indiana farm and shoots this like two some inch monster
Speaker 1: buck that was quite with an ear tag in it.
Speaker 1: I think they didn't call that a state record. If
Speaker 1: if because it's a kid, I'd let him have the
Speaker 1: state record. That's a cool kid. I went want to
Speaker 1: ruin it for him. He'd be the new state record holder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but okay, that's completely hypocritical because you you have this
Speaker 1: thing and everybody here will see this firsthand. Where Steve
Speaker 1: believes that, uh, you know, our youth have an entire
Speaker 1: life in which they can aspire to anything they want,
Speaker 1: but are older folks in the room. You're gonna die,
Speaker 1: so he may as well help you out while we can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: help you enjoy it while we can, and then the
Speaker 1: younger folks will figure it out and they have time
Speaker 1: to have someone in this late niff thing. These are
Speaker 1: just like good old boys Saskatchewan farmers that are out
Speaker 1: hunting these giant slabbish rainbows. So why give him the
Speaker 1: world records? Did I have a birthday to night? You do?
Speaker 1: Anybody got birthday tomorrow the next day? We need four
Speaker 1: people who have birthdays and cons in order, Uh, we'll
Speaker 1: get to that. You're fishing trip, you did like a quick,
Speaker 1: a little little you did a little text, Yeah, real
Speaker 1: quick zip down to rock Port incredibly awesome. I had
Speaker 1: a fantastic time. Uh zipped out and fished out of
Speaker 1: a state park. They're uh Goose Island yea, And uh
Speaker 1: didn't catch anything? No we oh yeah, yeah, nothing to see. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I had a I mean, just had a great,
Speaker 1: great time. Did some polling around. You guys have hard
Speaker 1: bottom uh fishing out here, so you can get out
Speaker 1: and wade. It's not like Louisiana, where if you tried
Speaker 1: to wade sink up to your chim'd never see you again. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I had a great time chasing redfish
Speaker 1: and uh got some pitched at some black drum and
Speaker 1: uh have to get shots at Jack's at well trying
Speaker 1: to Like conditions weren't perfect for that, too choppy or
Speaker 1: too muddy. H just real intermittent son and and some
Speaker 1: wind dich there too, so it was hard spotting fish.
Speaker 1: So you're hoping for like clear signed of make shadows
Speaker 1: on the bottom and whatnot. Yeah, I just yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're fantastic time and in really cool area. And got
Speaker 1: to hang out with some local boys down there, and
Speaker 1: one of which this dude Bobby, who's eight seven and
Speaker 1: drives like seventy wherever he goes. And uh he found
Speaker 1: out that Ryan Thompson and I had nothing to do
Speaker 1: on Sunday. He's like, WHOA, sure you don't have anything
Speaker 1: to do. It's like, I'll come by, just drive you around,
Speaker 1: show you some stuff. And so I swung in, picked
Speaker 1: us up, drove us all over for a couple of hours,
Speaker 1: pointing out all sorts of local tidbits and facts and
Speaker 1: breaking the speed limit everywhere we went. Um, did amazingly
Speaker 1: well for eight seven. It was a great time. It's
Speaker 1: really weird you tell that story because it reminds me
Speaker 1: of thing to happen where in Miles City, Montana. We
Speaker 1: used to live next to a guy named West Monsel
Speaker 1: and he was eighty seven. And one day my brother
Speaker 1: had a goal somewhere and he was telling us about
Speaker 1: a bunch of horse mushrooms he saw in the field
Speaker 1: and he just knew it somewhere between Miles City and Baker,
Speaker 1: which is a good stretch in West like this kind
Speaker 1: of mushroom. So we drove and someone must pick someone
Speaker 1: else wants to saw him and picked him because we
Speaker 1: eventually make it all the way to Baker. On the
Speaker 1: way home, and this is not a big road. On
Speaker 1: the way home, West is driving ninety five. The car
Speaker 1: is floating over the hills, and I'm thinking about how
Speaker 1: old he is and how people at a certain point
Speaker 1: could just pass away at any moment. And he gets
Speaker 1: to telling me the reason we're driving so fast is
Speaker 1: he's late. I'm gonna bring this thing full circle. This
Speaker 1: is a true story. He's late for a doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1: And then my mind's really wandering because I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: what sort of health issue is West happened? It's so important.
Speaker 1: He gets home in such a high rate of speed
Speaker 1: and we're running late, and we go and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not he can't even drop me off. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull end up the doctor and then you
Speaker 1: can just take my car back to your house and
Speaker 1: come pick me up at the end and a half
Speaker 1: hour or whatever. So I come back and pick him out.
Speaker 1: In this point, I'm real curious and I'm like all
Speaker 1: concerned for West's health and I'm like, so, West, what's
Speaker 1: going on? And he explains that since he his wife
Speaker 1: passed away, he realized that he's too old to lean
Speaker 1: over and clipped his own tone nails and had a
Speaker 1: doctor's appointment to get his tonnails caught. And that is
Speaker 1: why me and West were driving down a curvy road
Speaker 1: looking for mushrooms. Um, what was I getting at? Where
Speaker 1: I was talking about the guy that wasn't here? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we handled this thing. Here's another one we talked about.
Speaker 1: Fair bit. I don't think people in Texas run flat
Speaker 1: brim hats. I even noticed that, No, there's some flat
Speaker 1: brimmers around to get flat flat brimmers in Texas. One
Speaker 1: guy was saying that they were having the flat brim,
Speaker 1: curve brim baseball hat debate just on Merits, where one
Speaker 1: guy was saying he runs a flat brim and he
Speaker 1: feels it is better because you have more room for
Speaker 1: your binoculars under there, which has always been my point
Speaker 1: my sunglasses. That's why you go slightly flat to fit
Speaker 1: your binos. But the other guy pointed out during a debate,
Speaker 1: and they rode in about it. The other guy pointed out,
Speaker 1: there with a curve brim, you can pull a Remmy
Speaker 1: Warren where you conform your brim. This sounds complicated, but
Speaker 1: it's not. You make your the curl of your hat
Speaker 1: brim kind of conformed to the curve of your binos,
Speaker 1: and then you put your hat on and make sure
Speaker 1: it's on tight. And then when you hold your binos,
Speaker 1: you also hold your hat brim and it's a stabilizer.
Speaker 1: And he can't imagine that anyone would ever look through
Speaker 1: binoculars without having his hands gripping his hat brim. Yes,
Speaker 1: think about that. I like I used to think called
Speaker 1: the triboten. Yeah, I like the flat brim when I'm
Speaker 1: fishing because I have, you know, full coverage sunglasses and
Speaker 1: then flat brand I feel like gives me more coverage,
Speaker 1: Like it's more surface area, casting a bigger shadow on
Speaker 1: your face. Yeah, and then you know, I just pitched
Speaker 1: that thing on the dash and grab my regular role
Speaker 1: kicking around hat. Cown hat. You took your ears up
Speaker 1: in it. No sticker on the on the brim there.
Speaker 1: I have a tiny, tiny head. So if I get
Speaker 1: a hold of a hat after like, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: stuck with that because apparently there's a great shortage of
Speaker 1: p head sized hats out there. I'm usually wearing some
Speaker 1: kind of Fedora or something ornate hat, you know, So
Speaker 1: I say, it's a moving point to me. You kind
Speaker 1: of open up up on all these things. Why do
Speaker 1: some people put their ears inside the hat? Why am
Speaker 1: I up on this? Does it function? Is there a function?
Speaker 1: They got big ears? No, No, there's a functional reason.
Speaker 1: It's not like you're spending skin cancer on the tops
Speaker 1: of your ears. That would be a good point, though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got no answer for that. Big ears annoying. When
Speaker 1: the wind flaps him around, you gotta tuck them in there.
Speaker 1: That would be logical. Actually thought that that might be
Speaker 1: what it is you talk your ear and there and
Speaker 1: you don't have to lose the top of your ear
Speaker 1: to skin cancer. Guy rode in from St. Louis looking
Speaker 1: for advice, ethical advice. Um. He lives out in the
Speaker 1: country and he just moved to a new neighborhood and
Speaker 1: it's there's neighborhood pond. And the way it works is
Speaker 1: each person along the pond has one and a half
Speaker 1: acres joining up right, you can picture on top about
Speaker 1: joining up to the pond. The pond is seven acres.
Speaker 1: He he has a homeowners association. There's nothing in the
Speaker 1: h o A about firearms or hunting or nothing. You
Speaker 1: see where this is going. Oh yeah, they've they've got
Speaker 1: geese and mallard using the lake legally. He realizes that
Speaker 1: here doing his homework legally and whatever you call h
Speaker 1: o A law. He feels as though he's a okay
Speaker 1: in the clear to go out and hunt. And he's wondering.
Speaker 1: He says, I feel it is better to ask for
Speaker 1: forgiveness rather than rather than permission. But quote wanted your
Speaker 1: guys opinion. I was first as he lived in Texas.
Speaker 1: He's cutting that ship out of him every day. Man
Speaker 1: more I think about it that I was thinking there's
Speaker 1: other ways about it. My initial thought was there's only
Speaker 1: one way that he's gonna get one good hunt, and
Speaker 1: that's by just going for it first um and getting
Speaker 1: after him. Because then at the next h o A meeting,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some covenants hunting in that pond. Right,
Speaker 1: So at least that way you get one good hunting.
Speaker 1: Because if you go ask around, it depends on who
Speaker 1: your neighbors are a board. Maybe if you went how
Speaker 1: many people are there, how many how many different half
Speaker 1: watchers club? I bet someone who's really good at math
Speaker 1: could figure out how many neighbors there are if each
Speaker 1: neighbor owns one and a half acres and it's a
Speaker 1: seven acre pond. But you get into a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about the shape of these but I doubt the
Speaker 1: properties are pie shaped. Well, you might start off I
Speaker 1: just going to all your neighbors and hand them each
Speaker 1: a nice goose pstromy breast all done up came from, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that that's kind of the direction I was leaning, like,
Speaker 1: you better get your game, get your house in order, right. So, No,
Speaker 1: when your next homeowners association meeting is at which point,
Speaker 1: these rules are definitely gonna change. And you give yourself
Speaker 1: enough time to like cure up smoke cone fee and
Speaker 1: you know, get a good spread laid out for the
Speaker 1: meeting everybody I brought and say it do go on
Speaker 1: and they eat it. You're like, guess what that was
Speaker 1: my advice? There's like I could do the like long
Speaker 1: a long version of advice and my beby he could
Speaker 1: start talking about he could spread pamphlets out they are
Speaker 1: like the enormous health risks associated with with with goose droppings.
Speaker 1: But propaganda, get get ahold of whoever like generates fake
Speaker 1: news articles and having right things like the number one
Speaker 1: killer of American children is It would be so easy
Speaker 1: to target because because every h o A now has
Speaker 1: like their own Facebook group, so it'd be very easy
Speaker 1: to target the right people. But you could, you could
Speaker 1: do that. But but my like, just to answer what
Speaker 1: he's asking, and I'm not just saying I'm saying this
Speaker 1: as a homeowner, I'm saying this as a person who
Speaker 1: cares about um the hunters and hunters rights and our
Speaker 1: ongoing ability to to have the lifestyle that we so
Speaker 1: much enjoy, I would say that I feel that he
Speaker 1: should um, he should do a little tour, he should
Speaker 1: do a little tour around the lake doing for the kids,
Speaker 1: and and kind of layout what is planning, how he's
Speaker 1: sort of thinking this is gonna go down, and what
Speaker 1: his plan is, and do the do the permission rather
Speaker 1: than forgiveness approach, Like about five thirty, I'm gonna slip
Speaker 1: out there and set a bunch of decoys about six
Speaker 1: fift you're gonna hear you don't know it's me. I
Speaker 1: won't bore you with what happens after that, but but
Speaker 1: you know, you get the gist, uh final thing quickly
Speaker 1: and talking about oh gotta yeah, I gotta do our
Speaker 1: birthdays most of you gotta do quickly and talk about
Speaker 1: though first is um Cows just pointing out to me
Speaker 1: that on the same newsday down here in Dallas, there
Speaker 1: was a story not down here in Dallas, but down
Speaker 1: here in Texas, the story of of also the Wallaby
Speaker 1: just happens be walking down the road in Dallas on
Speaker 1: a company just by itself, an un a company Wallaby.
Speaker 1: The owner gets in no no trouble. Another guy in
Speaker 1: Dallas turns up with a little collection of Asian swamp fields.
Speaker 1: Charges are pending. When I read this just to return
Speaker 1: while I was talking about the top of the episode.
Speaker 1: When I read this, I realized, like a thing I
Speaker 1: like about Texas and Texans is that you know the
Speaker 1: the E. O. Wilson term um by ophelia, the term
Speaker 1: you popularized, which is this innate human desire two experience
Speaker 1: and be around other forms of life. And I feel
Speaker 1: for all the dog and on Texas that we were
Speaker 1: doing earlier, a thing I appreciate, whether it's tigers, wiladbies,
Speaker 1: dear Turkey's quail, but I feel that like there's some
Speaker 1: beautiful thing about the Texas mindset that just loves and
Speaker 1: it's gonna run good and bad. They love animals. They
Speaker 1: like to be around wildlife and enjoy it and marvel
Speaker 1: at it and just experience it. And I uh and
Speaker 1: for that, I do want and all, honestly to congratulate
Speaker 1: and thank everyone here for so many kind letters that
Speaker 1: we get from taxes of people trying to understand this
Speaker 1: crazy thing, this crazy experiment that we have of wildlife
Speaker 1: in America. So thank you guys all for that, yeah
Speaker 1: very much. And with that, I want to say what
Speaker 1: all analysis we got? Big good night and thank you.
Speaker 1: We got our steam Breathing Power Gobbler Live to our
Speaker 1: only T shirts. You'll never see a guy anybody you
Speaker 1: see wearing them? Is that the Live Show? What other
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Speaker 1: We got cookbooks, meteor fishing game cookbooks, billabole, anywhere bouts
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Speaker 1: of that, check out, Stars and Sky. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: We need the birthday people. Who who's got a birthday
Speaker 1: to night? Okay? Come up this one birthday to night?
Speaker 1: One guy? Is that burthday tonight? Tonight? I'm asking tonight, tonight, tonight.
Speaker 1: If it's tonight, come on down, is it tonight? Who's
Speaker 1: got a birthday tomorrow? Any birthdays tomorrow? The next day,
Speaker 1: the next day? That can't be right. Who's got yesterday?
Speaker 1: You got yesterday? Okay, come on, that's good. Who else
Speaker 1: got yesterday? No? No way? Who else got yesterday? How
Speaker 1: may we got that one? We got three day before yesterday? Oh?
Speaker 1: We usually get to take care of him one day April.
Speaker 1: What yeah, six of work? That'll work. Come on, right now,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, thank you very much, very much,