Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Therapy Gecko podcast. I'm Lyle
Speaker 1: and I have I am a gecko and I'm talking
Speaker 1: to people on the phone. And I used to not
Speaker 1: record intros to the podcast. I used to just get
Speaker 1: right into them. And a lot of the reason for
Speaker 1: the for that is that often I think intros are stupid.
Speaker 1: I thinks are a waste of time. I hate when
Speaker 1: I fucking click on a podcast and it has like
Speaker 1: three minutes of like today, my guest is whatever, and
Speaker 1: then it's got like a little little little like intercuts
Speaker 1: of like parts of their conversation, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like, just if we could just start the podcast
Speaker 1: at the point when the people are are talking without
Speaker 1: a whole intro, and you probably sit through ads right
Speaker 1: when you're listening to this, so it's like you had
Speaker 1: to see you had there. First there was a bunch
Speaker 1: of ads, and then there's like a whole podcast, and
Speaker 1: then there's like a whole intro to the podcast. And
Speaker 1: then by the time you actually you know, get into
Speaker 1: the interview or whatever the podcast you're listening to is,
Speaker 1: you're forty five minutes in. Already your commute is over.
Speaker 1: It's time to go to work. You know, the laundry
Speaker 1: has been folded, you know, your run is over right,
Speaker 1: whatever it is you were doing. So that's why I
Speaker 1: don't like, you know, big long Rambley podcast intros where
Speaker 1: people just trail off and talk about nothing. You know,
Speaker 1: I hate when people do that. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: into the phone calls. Hello, Hi, what is your name?
Speaker 2: Obi? I actually saying there's like, I'm from Czech Republic,
Speaker 2: So it takes a long time before I can hear
Speaker 2: and I can respond. So I hope that's not a problem.
Speaker 1: Is that how I don't know if that's how cell
Speaker 1: phones work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah. I well, I've been seeing there's like
Speaker 2: one second before I respond to or I feel like it.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not. I'm not really genius.
Speaker 1: No, you don't have to be. Hey, listen, you don't
Speaker 1: have to be a genius to be doing this, to
Speaker 1: be doing whatever it is we're doing. That's okay, Wait
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of tweaking right now. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You're kind of tweaking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm you know, I'm on the spot.
Speaker 1: There's no you're not on the you are not on
Speaker 1: the spot. You are on This is nothing. There is
Speaker 1: no spot, there is no there's no stakes to this.
Speaker 1: You were when you're when you if you you know,
Speaker 1: like when you take the bar exam, you're on the spot, right,
Speaker 1: But this is not anything. This isn't it. This isn't
Speaker 1: a job interview, This isn't it's not a bar exam.
Speaker 1: This isn't even it's not it where, it's not a date.
Speaker 1: It's not anything. This is no this is there's no
Speaker 1: stakes to this. This is just whatever.
Speaker 2: It's Yeah, I mean yeah, I feel like the stakes
Speaker 2: are like when you try to call in so many
Speaker 2: times as I do, then it's kind of you know,
Speaker 2: I invested so much time and stuff. Oh there's going
Speaker 2: to be all right.
Speaker 1: Uh oh well all right then let's let's go down
Speaker 1: that road.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You said you invested a lot of time into calling
Speaker 1: this show. You say, yeah, why do you?
Speaker 2: Why do you not so much?
Speaker 1: But how much time do you think you invested in
Speaker 1: calling this show?
Speaker 2: Maybe like two hours?
Speaker 1: Okay, So for the past two hours you've been calling,
Speaker 1: calling the phone number of it over again.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, like when I added up like multiple streams, right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's been a two hour investment in total.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: And this I'm gonna say, this conversation that we are
Speaker 1: having right now, the stakes you're telling me, the stakes
Speaker 1: of this conversation right now is that this conversation is
Speaker 1: the the r OI the return on investment of two
Speaker 1: whole hours of your life? Yeah, okay, is there any other?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else at stake? You believe?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, drively no, okay?
Speaker 1: What is two hours? What is two hours of your
Speaker 1: life worth to you? Uh?
Speaker 2: Probably like two hundred setub shorts to hundred what YouTube shorts?
Speaker 2: You know, like TikTok about on YouTube?
Speaker 1: Two hundred YouTube shorts? Oh yeah, I guess, yeah yeah, sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could watch two hundred YouTube But what's the return
Speaker 1: on investment in of that? What's the what do you
Speaker 1: get after watching two hours of YouTube shorts?
Speaker 2: Oh? I just not that much right there? Stuff on there?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, return I'm sorry I keep talking over you
Speaker 1: go ahead?
Speaker 2: No? Oh, no, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: Return on the idea of return on your investment is
Speaker 1: an interesting concept. I fully believe in it. I believe
Speaker 1: that my my day to day life is heavily influenced
Speaker 1: by returns on previous investments. I have made with with
Speaker 1: my time in both a lot of in both ways
Speaker 1: that are extremely positive and extremely negative. Like I've spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time I've I wonder, I'm really I'm
Speaker 1: trying to calculate over the course of my life how
Speaker 1: many hours I've spent eating ice cream. It's probably a lot.
Speaker 1: And as.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you, when you eat ice cream, do
Speaker 2: like fully just eat ice cream and do nothing else,
Speaker 2: or do like do multiple things? Because I can't imagine
Speaker 2: do you really just eat ice cream and fully experience it.
Speaker 1: You bring up an interesting point, which is that, Okay,
Speaker 1: when I'm calculating my total ice cream eating time, is
Speaker 1: it the is it? I'm gonna go ahead and say
Speaker 1: that if I'm holding the spoon and I am in
Speaker 1: the process of either digging the ice cream out or
Speaker 1: putting it in my mouth or it's in my mouth,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that that's all ice cream time. But
Speaker 1: if I like take a little bite of ice cream
Speaker 1: and then I put it down and I, you know,
Speaker 1: talk to someone for a second that that I don't
Speaker 1: count that as ice cream time. I'm going to count
Speaker 1: it just as yeggs the time that is spent either
Speaker 1: in the process of well, shit, I mean of ROI, right,
Speaker 1: Like this is everything is ROI. Everything is because you know,
Speaker 1: I had to walk to the store to buy and
Speaker 1: buy the and I had to go find the ice
Speaker 1: cream and I had to buy it and I had
Speaker 1: to bring it to my house. That's all ice cream time.
Speaker 1: So how much time have I invested in the procurement
Speaker 1: and consumption of ice cream?
Speaker 2: Well, but but I think they're like two things you
Speaker 2: are doing, Like you physically go to the store, right,
Speaker 2: but you can also, like I don't know, listen to music.
Speaker 2: So how do you come to time? Because you're doing
Speaker 2: multiple things at once.
Speaker 1: So this gets me to my ultimate point, which is
Speaker 1: that and actually I want to be careful with this
Speaker 1: because I don't fully agree with what I'm about to say. Uh.
Speaker 1: Part of me thinks that, like the whole idea of like, uh,
Speaker 1: wasted time is kind of stupid because like, what what's
Speaker 1: the art? Like when you're eighty years old, right, it's
Speaker 1: like you just you just keep your time. You keep
Speaker 1: being like, well, what's this time going to lead up to?
Speaker 1: And you do that forever and then you die. So
Speaker 1: it's like when do you actually the point the point
Speaker 1: of the time was in the time itself, not necessarily
Speaker 1: what the time led up to. By the way, I
Speaker 1: don't fully believe that, but it's a it's an idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't fully believe that because my again,
Speaker 1: my day to day life, part of the A lot
Speaker 1: of the time and my day to day life that
Speaker 1: I fully enjoy is is created. The situations for me
Speaker 1: to enjoy that time were created because of ways in
Speaker 1: which I spent my time in the past. So I
Speaker 1: don't fully believe that. But also, if you live but
Speaker 1: if you live only by r o I and you
Speaker 1: only live by what's the return on investment of every
Speaker 1: fucking second of my day? Then you die without then
Speaker 1: what did you what were you ever doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty stupid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so again that's why this conversation has no stakes
Speaker 1: because and also even if it's even if we're gonna
Speaker 1: live in ROI land, it's like two hours of your time.
Speaker 1: I I returned to the question what's two hours of
Speaker 1: your time?
Speaker 2: With yeah, uh, well I don't think I could copelate it.
Speaker 1: Okay, right now, all right, So there's no mistake with this,
Speaker 1: there's no reason to be nervous there's no way that
Speaker 1: you could funck this up. This is just whatever it was.
Speaker 1: There's no this doesn't need to pay off to anything.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: For me.
Speaker 2: I'm just a huge then.
Speaker 1: For me, thank you. I appreciate that, and thank you
Speaker 1: for having this conversation with me. I'm actually I'm gonna
Speaker 1: actually say two things that are related to that are
Speaker 1: meta related to the conversation that we're having right now.
Speaker 1: For me, this conversation has multiple rois. One is I
Speaker 1: want this to I want this to be an engage
Speaker 1: in conversation for a variety of reasons, mainly because there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who listen to this podcast and
Speaker 1: I want I want the I want the podcast to
Speaker 1: be an enjoyable listen for those people. And then two
Speaker 1: so and so, I and so. Actually I'm operating on
Speaker 1: both levels at this point because I get multiple returns
Speaker 1: on my investment of time and having this conversation with
Speaker 1: you right now and recording this podcast in many ways.
Speaker 1: You know, I do this for a living, so this
Speaker 1: is this is my job. We have this conversation right now. Wait, sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't want to cut you off, but I want
Speaker 1: to just I's just my job to have this conversation
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I like and then ah, And there's
Speaker 1: roy inherent to that. There is ROI inherent to you know,
Speaker 1: building like you know, listenership to a thing. There's lots
Speaker 1: of you know, benefits that that can bring, I think,
Speaker 1: to one's life. There's lots of challenges that can bring
Speaker 1: to one's life with benefits. But I'm also operating on
Speaker 1: the other level, which is that I in the moment
Speaker 1: that we are having this conversation, like the time itself,
Speaker 1: I am enjoying. I'm enjoying getting to work out the
Speaker 1: ideas that I'm currently working out. As I'm on the
Speaker 1: phone with you right now, I'm getting to talk to
Speaker 1: a guy from the Czech Republic. I would have never
Speaker 1: gotten to talk. Really, there's no reason that you and
Speaker 1: Mi's life would have ever crossed paths had it not
Speaker 1: been for like the fact that I'm talking to you
Speaker 1: right now. Is the ROI of previous decisions that I
Speaker 1: made that are leading to this that leads to this podcast,
Speaker 1: that leads to you discovering this, that lead to you
Speaker 1: calling me. But also again, in the moment, I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: having this conversation with you, so it's working on many
Speaker 1: levels right now, this is this conversation is beneficial to
Speaker 1: me in both the present and the future.
Speaker 2: Can I just can go ahead?
Speaker 1: Go ahead please?
Speaker 2: I think this cozation. Yeah, this conversation is really I
Speaker 2: just realized when you were talking this conversations it has
Speaker 2: no space because they should go down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: It just you know, everything is kind of like beneficial
Speaker 2: in some way. You know, there's like a million things
Speaker 2: you always like, I don't know, I can practice my English,
Speaker 2: or I'm just happy I can talk to somebody, or
Speaker 2: you know, like it's really pointless two name or the
Speaker 2: benefits oh you know.
Speaker 1: Right right, No, yeah, no, you're right. The having this
Speaker 1: conversation is just inherent. There's no this doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be like a payoff to something. And by the way,
Speaker 1: it's funny I'm having what was I gonna say? By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm the king, I'm like, I actually I've
Speaker 1: had a I had somebody say this to me. I
Speaker 1: was I was dating someone and she said to me,
Speaker 1: you seem like you only want to do things, or
Speaker 1: like you mainly want to do things where you see
Speaker 1: like like an ROI to them where like they compound
Speaker 1: into things, and I am like that, and I have
Speaker 1: a I have lots of parts of my brain that
Speaker 1: are like that, where I only really want to do
Speaker 1: things where I feel like they'll benefit me in the future.
Speaker 1: That's what I aspire to I in my actual life,
Speaker 1: I do so I do lots of things that that
Speaker 1: detriment my future, like eat a lot of ice cream,
Speaker 1: but I enjoy them in the present. But then, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm enjoying talking this out to you right
Speaker 1: now because I think that that mindset of I only
Speaker 1: want to do things that compound for the future is helpful.
Speaker 1: But I don't think if you if you're always thinking
Speaker 1: like that one hundred percent of the time, I think
Speaker 1: you miss a lot of the point of doing anything.
Speaker 1: You know, So that's why I'm enjoying. I'm like to
Speaker 1: challenge my own trying to challenge my own way of existing.
Speaker 2: I mean it all comes down to, like I think,
Speaker 2: I think what you're saying a lot is like ignorance
Speaker 2: is a less if you don't think about it, you
Speaker 2: just you do what you want, like you're not controlled
Speaker 2: by the return of the investments, and you don't do things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a health I think, I think,
Speaker 1: I think the I think it's optimal to have a
Speaker 1: I think it's about balance. I think you gotta have
Speaker 1: a balance of both, right, Like you wanna do you wanna?
Speaker 1: Because if you just fuck off all the time and
Speaker 1: just yeah all the time and nothing ever matters, then
Speaker 1: you didn't. You amounted to nothing, which was fine too.
Speaker 1: There's no no law that you have to just.
Speaker 2: Short term and long term gratification. You know what do
Speaker 2: you want? You have the truth?
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I mean yeah, I think yeah. I've
Speaker 1: always I've always try to yeah, do like long trying
Speaker 1: to do things that like I'm like, I like, like
Speaker 1: I want to build things, you know, like like you like,
Speaker 1: I want to do things that compound so that my
Speaker 1: life is better in the future. But if you're only
Speaker 1: if that's what you're only doing, and you're only doing
Speaker 1: things because they compound into the see, that's the best.
Speaker 1: See Like this, this conversation I'm having with you right now,
Speaker 1: it's a perfect example of the perfect balance because this
Speaker 1: conversation I'm having with you right now, I am enjoying
Speaker 1: having it in the moment, and it it compounds for
Speaker 1: the future.
Speaker 2: I guess it's a wingmen.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like are you enjoying having this conversation
Speaker 1: in the moment that we're having it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do, like sure, okay, good.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like this is compounds into your future
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we are exchanging ideas. Yes, so you
Speaker 2: know that's always good to have a perspective. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe sometimes when I think about situations and somehow I can,
Speaker 2: you know, take this conversation up in my memory and
Speaker 2: have another perspective. I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're practicing English. That's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry my English is pretty that right.
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't, it's not I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think English. I only said that because you said that.
Speaker 1: I don't think your English is bad at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I haven't. I haven't spoken English for a
Speaker 2: long time, so I just listen like youtobe and stuff,
Speaker 2: read books, but I don't speak that much.
Speaker 1: Where do you do you live in Prague?
Speaker 2: Do you know in second language?
Speaker 1: Do I know a second language?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, hold I'll answer, I'll answer.
Speaker 2: You speak Spanish when you were in Mexico cit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I I know a little bit of Spanish,
Speaker 1: although my Spanish has has atrophied. I know, like ten
Speaker 1: phrases of Japanese maybe, yeah, like I know, like ten
Speaker 1: phrases of Japanese. I'm going to Tijuana on Friday. I'm
Speaker 1: filming a video I'm excited about. Remember the Uh I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how often you listen to
Speaker 1: the podcast, but like back in December, I had a
Speaker 1: phone call with this guy who uh like leads these
Speaker 1: like break dancing sessions in Tijuana.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, so you listen. I know I saw
Speaker 1: on that. On that phone call, he says to me,
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, let me know if you ever want
Speaker 1: to come to one and in and in it. I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm like, yeah, maybe that would be cool someday.
Speaker 1: And so I was just kind of sitting around and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I'm gonna I should actually go do that.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of people tell you that
Speaker 2: now they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to start making I want to yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, hey, come here and
Speaker 1: let's do this this ship and I'm like, uh uh,
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's what that's my new arc. I
Speaker 1: want to make more videos like that because I made
Speaker 1: that video about being in being depressed in Japan, where
Speaker 1: you know, I met up with with with my my
Speaker 1: boy Jason, who called it into the show and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's I like that format of video. I think that
Speaker 1: is fun. So I'm gonna go into Tijuan. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that ship. But uh, I want to Okay, I
Speaker 1: just want to go ahead, Google ahead, you say some Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, I think this podcast wouldn't
Speaker 2: work if you weren't traveling the world, like I think
Speaker 2: it brings so much to like, you know what you
Speaker 2: are talking about, like when different cultures, people with different
Speaker 2: cultures talk to you, you are like open. I think
Speaker 2: if you sat on your ass all the time, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't work. This podcast so good that you you travel
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: I think interesting. Well, and I'm trying to think about
Speaker 1: that because I don't you know, that's an interesting thing
Speaker 1: to say, and I agree with it to a point.
Speaker 2: But I think maybe not like it wouldn't work in
Speaker 2: this scale.
Speaker 1: I think I think that I do think that traveling
Speaker 1: and like going around and talking to people and stuff
Speaker 1: is a is a good education in like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it is a good education. But I also
Speaker 1: I don't think you need it. There's all these New
Speaker 1: York Times articles. I mean, I like doing it because
Speaker 1: I it's exciting, and I like I crave, I crave
Speaker 1: constant stimulation. I think that's an ADHD thing, or maybe
Speaker 1: it's just a me thing. I don't know, but I yeah, yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: you go ahead, you're gonna say.
Speaker 2: Some Yeah, I'm just I was going to say, no,
Speaker 2: I don't know that much about you, but I think
Speaker 2: a lot of those things you'd say, like ADHD. I
Speaker 2: think it just you know, we are so over stimulated
Speaker 2: in the world. Oh it's not really no, like adhd ah,
Speaker 2: But that's a different conversation. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I see what you mean. There's uh, what's that.
Speaker 1: There's a Dave. I think it's like, no, it's it's
Speaker 1: not Dave Chappelle. It's Michael Ja. Michael Cha has that
Speaker 1: joke where he's like, uh, this kid doesn't have ADHD.
Speaker 1: He's got titties in his pocket, you know, because of
Speaker 1: the phone. Anyway, Yeah, anyway, oh yeah, traveling, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You can you can there's somebody you can learn ship
Speaker 1: on the internet. You can listen to podcasts, you can
Speaker 1: do all kinds of ship.
Speaker 2: I'm well, can I say just from my perspective or experience,
Speaker 2: I don't travel on like to other countries almost like
Speaker 2: I traveled once or twice in my life. But I
Speaker 2: think I'm still open in new cultures. Yes, but it's
Speaker 2: not the same. I think it's not the same when
Speaker 2: you weren't there because the Internet is so you know,
Speaker 2: it's not real if you get me, like, I know
Speaker 2: it's saying Internet is not real, it's pretty stupid, but
Speaker 2: I mean it's not like like seventy percent of things
Speaker 2: on internet are fake, right, So you get you don't
Speaker 2: get the right perspective or the experience that you would
Speaker 2: when actually being there and talking to people or experiencing
Speaker 2: their food or you know, just the behavior. Like I
Speaker 2: guess if someone whence to I don't know, to Japan
Speaker 2: and made the block just walking in the city, I
Speaker 2: don't get the experience of actually woking. It's totally different thing,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I again, I like travel a lot because it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's just fun and stimulating and I like getting to,
Speaker 1: you know, meet new people and do and you know,
Speaker 1: when I die, I want to be able to look
Speaker 1: back on my life and uh, you know, be able
Speaker 1: to say that I had, you know, exciting experiences and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But I don't in terms of like, in terms of
Speaker 1: like learning about the human experience. I think I think
Speaker 1: that your understanding of the human experience is not I
Speaker 1: don't think you have to travel far and wide for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you like, okay, so you don't travel, right,
Speaker 1: but like I assume you have you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: assume you have like parents and maybe siblings and friends,
Speaker 1: and you go to the store and you do all
Speaker 1: these things, and it's like you can you know, just
Speaker 1: just living on regular ass life and examining it and
Speaker 1: you know, having relationships with other people and attempting to
Speaker 1: navigate the world. And you know, but when.
Speaker 2: You say, I think there's a problem when you say
Speaker 2: navigating the work, because you know, the work is so
Speaker 2: vast and different on other places that I mean, I
Speaker 2: can navigate the world maybe in chic Republic, but I
Speaker 2: would be completely or not completely, but I would be
Speaker 2: lost even in America because the culture is really different.
Speaker 1: Ye hm, yes, But I mean to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: like the Yes, cultures are different, but a lot of
Speaker 1: ship's the the same. I mean like yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: well okay, right actually here, I mean let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let me do this right, like like do you have
Speaker 1: a do you have like a what's what's your romantic life?
Speaker 2: Like, Oh, I I will be getting married, I think
Speaker 2: this summer.
Speaker 1: You're getting married this summer?
Speaker 2: Yeah hopefully?
Speaker 1: Why hopefully?
Speaker 2: Oh well, it's not a setting stone, it I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean you're not doing the classic marriage where you know,
Speaker 2: I propose and we have the ceremony and stuff. You're
Speaker 2: just gonna go to the city hall and get married.
Speaker 1: Cool. How long have you been with your fiance your girlfriend?
Speaker 2: Well, like together romantically, it's been a year and a half.
Speaker 2: But I've known her for like ten years, I guess.
Speaker 1: Okay, And how did that relationship go from like platonic
Speaker 1: to romantic?
Speaker 2: Well, there was some romantic tension spark or how do
Speaker 2: you call it, like all the time, I guess, but
Speaker 2: realized really far apart and saw each other just one
Speaker 2: fear for fourteen days, and like we grew older and
Speaker 2: we started seeing each other more and yeah, then I
Speaker 2: got her pregnant.
Speaker 1: WHOA Okay, I have a lot of questions to ask
Speaker 1: about your life, but just to tie back in what
Speaker 1: we were just talking about, is, okay, so you have
Speaker 1: this you had this thing right with this girl where
Speaker 1: you maybe liked each other and there was maybe just
Speaker 1: spark and you know, like you have your you have
Speaker 1: your love story with this lady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was not maybe, but yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah love story.
Speaker 1: Okay, So well, okay, but this this experience of like
Speaker 1: a guy and a girl know each other for a
Speaker 1: long time and then maybe they get together, maybe they
Speaker 1: don't know, they fucking h coover, they love each other,
Speaker 1: and then maybe oh he gets their pregnant, and then
Speaker 1: this story, this your life story, that story is happening
Speaker 1: like that. That's just that's a human story. That's not
Speaker 1: like that's probably happened in Japan, Korea and America and
Speaker 1: Australia and all over Europe. Like that story like that,
Speaker 1: like the like the like the human things like like
Speaker 1: I know, and like like searching and like the search
Speaker 1: for personal meaning and like familial relationships. These are these
Speaker 1: aren't things you you discovered by traveling. These are things
Speaker 1: you discovered by just like living and then you kind
Speaker 1: of discover them by like talking to other people about
Speaker 1: their lived experience. But a lot of like the truly
Speaker 1: human uh ship is is cross cultural, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean these are feelings, right, so feelings are
Speaker 2: definitely human like in every every culture, I guess, same.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah? Yeah, Like, so you're you're educated in you're
Speaker 1: educated in this field of romance, not because you not
Speaker 1: because you try, not because you went on a crazy
Speaker 1: cool trip to Japan, but because you fucking lived your
Speaker 1: life and then you pull from the actual the life
Speaker 1: that you lived to then give you a greater perspective
Speaker 1: on the lives that other people might be living. And
Speaker 1: you didn't have you didn't have to leave the Czech
Speaker 1: Republic to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right, Yeah, But but I
Speaker 2: cannot Well I could talk to you about this or
Speaker 2: to anyone, right, but mmm, how do I how do
Speaker 2: Maybe I couldn't talk to about what the feeling is
Speaker 2: walking to in Japan in summer where it's really hot
Speaker 2: and humid on the busy street, right, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but even like yeah, but even like in
Speaker 1: even like in that Japan walking video that I made
Speaker 1: like that video is not about Japan. That video is
Speaker 1: about like, ah go the videos that video is about
Speaker 1: like my just my own fucking spirally ah thoughts, and
Speaker 1: I could I could have fucking done that. You know,
Speaker 1: I could have had those thoughts.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest when I said, when
Speaker 2: I said it, I didn't remember that video from you.
Speaker 2: I just was saying, random scenario. It's I'm a new concept.
Speaker 1: You know, sure, sure, but but okay, like but I.
Speaker 2: Think I'm kind of spiraling about this. Cann just just say,
Speaker 2: just going to go away from it.
Speaker 1: It's not like you know, yeah, oh by the way,
Speaker 1: hold on, just so you know, I'm not uh. I
Speaker 1: hope you don't feel like I'm attacking you. I'm not
Speaker 1: at all. I'm just uh no, you're giving your your
Speaker 1: You're you've been, You're a great springboard for I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: these ideas that were were exchanging. I'm not attacking. I
Speaker 1: don't want I don't you say, because you say you're spiraling, No, no, no.
Speaker 2: I I enjoyed this very much. Even if you were
Speaker 2: attacking me. It's all right. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just in real time I'm in real
Speaker 1: time thinking about the things that you're saying. Let me think, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because like, well, yeah, the idea of I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think you get an education just by like living
Speaker 1: your fucking life, you know, whatever happens to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's let's let's agree to disagree.
Speaker 1: Now it's good, it's uh wait, no, I don't want
Speaker 1: to I don't want to agree to disagree. I want
Speaker 1: to hear your disagreements.
Speaker 2: I told you already. But I think my like of
Speaker 2: knowing English or English vocabulary, I can't really express myself
Speaker 2: that much. So I don't know. I would rather just
Speaker 2: go from that topic because I don't think I can
Speaker 2: really say my mind on that.
Speaker 1: You know, So you're having a child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a child.
Speaker 3: I have almost one year old other Oh holy shit,
Speaker 3: yeah wow, how's that?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's well, it's a right, parenthood is amazing,
Speaker 2: but it's not either definitely. Well, I'm twenty one, my
Speaker 2: girlfriend is nineteen, so you're kind of young parents. I'm
Speaker 2: still in school. My girlfriend is also in school, so
Speaker 2: we have some troubles with the time management and making money. Right,
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I always wanted to be a father.
Speaker 2: So I'm really enjoying it, but it's not idea, right.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Well, I could go on a rant, but I don't know,
Speaker 2: I mmm if if it's constructive or not.
Speaker 1: I would love to hear your rent. Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I'm twenty one, and you know I always
Speaker 2: wanted to child before before I got my girlfriend pregnant.
Speaker 2: I thought about, like, if I had two lives, in
Speaker 2: one I would like to try to be a young parent,
Speaker 2: and in the other one, I would, you know, do
Speaker 2: it the traditional way, I guess, And then I got
Speaker 2: kind of new choice, and but yeah, I am really
Speaker 2: enjoying it, but it was it's trually stressful because I
Speaker 2: don't work full time and money is kind of tight,
Speaker 2: especially in this economy, I guess, right, But yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's it's it's stressful a lot.
Speaker 1: Of yeah.
Speaker 2: Mhmm.
Speaker 1: You said in one life, you said, if you had
Speaker 1: two lives, you would do one as a young father,
Speaker 1: and then in the other one you would do it
Speaker 1: the traditional way, which which I said, the traditional way
Speaker 1: to you is like, you know, waiting a little more.
Speaker 2: I think the traditional way is like to finish school,
Speaker 2: get a good job, financial stability, and then have a child. Right,
Speaker 2: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious what made you want to what made
Speaker 1: you want to be a young dad?
Speaker 2: I well, because I felt like being a father is
Speaker 2: how do you said? Like, that's the only thing in
Speaker 2: my life that I want to do pretty much, like
Speaker 2: it's my dream. Yeah, my dream. Hmm.
Speaker 1: How is it playing out for you? Have you have
Speaker 1: you do you feel? Do you feel good about about
Speaker 1: living your dream? Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's my dream, right, So I really
Speaker 2: love it, Like being a father is amazing. I enjoy
Speaker 2: it every day. I love my daughter and she's she's amazing.
Speaker 2: But no, I know, there's really not a bad I
Speaker 2: really love it, like it's great. The only thing that's, like,
Speaker 2: I guess not optimal is the money situation, right, But
Speaker 2: everything else I just thought it. I'm with my with
Speaker 2: my girlfriend, which is love of my life.
Speaker 1: So that's great, that's great, that's wonderful. How is she doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is she?
Speaker 1: Is she happy? Is she doing good?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would say she's happy. Well, now, we had
Speaker 2: the finals, so it was kind of stressful. But you know,
Speaker 2: life is well, like if you don't I feel like,
Speaker 2: if you want to live a comfortable life, you will
Speaker 2: never achieve anything or like, mmm, you know you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like if you don't step out of
Speaker 2: your comfort zone, you just stay stuck. So that's my
Speaker 2: point of view on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, but we're really cool, Like we're gonna
Speaker 4: get married, right, so.
Speaker 2: H you're happy?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. How do you are you? What's your family situation?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Is your Are you cool with your dad and your
Speaker 1: mom and like you have siblings and stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, uh, I am very cool with my parents,
Speaker 2: Like I love them. They're amazing. They they help us
Speaker 2: a lot, like my father, Like they are not together.
Speaker 2: I would say divorced, but they never got married, so
Speaker 2: I guess separate. Uh, but they are cool. I have
Speaker 2: one brother, you could say half a bad brother. I
Speaker 2: guess it's only from my mom's side, but I feel
Speaker 2: it's he's my like my real brother. I know him
Speaker 2: on My life is amazing mm hmm. Yeah. I My
Speaker 2: family is great. I just wish I could talk to
Speaker 2: them more, like see them, because now really is really
Speaker 2: far apart.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Do you do you have a Do you
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends where you live?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have, Like I have a group of friends
Speaker 2: m hm. And I have some friends in school. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how much friends is
Speaker 2: a lot or how much friends is.
Speaker 4: Few.
Speaker 2: I have just a good amount of friends, I would
Speaker 2: say I have. I don't have much time because, like
Speaker 2: I said, I go to work and I study and
Speaker 2: I'm a new parent. But I don't have that much time.
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to keep in touch with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you're a pretty you're you're you're, you're a
Speaker 1: pretty incredible guy. Man, that's you're you're. That's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to juggle. That's a that's an incredible amount.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. No, I hate when someone says that
Speaker 2: because I respect that.
Speaker 1: I respect that, I really expect that.
Speaker 2: I really don't think I'm, you know, doing anything remarkable.
Speaker 2: Like I spent a lot of my time fucking watching
Speaker 2: YouTube shots. If I was amazing, I wouldn't. I would
Speaker 2: do something more productive, and you know, this is the
Speaker 2: life that I pretty much chose. So no much, not
Speaker 2: much remarkable about that, right.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I can? I all right, wait, I don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: Here's I'm not. I don't want to because you hate
Speaker 1: when people say you're remarkable. I'm I don't want to
Speaker 1: like like dick ride you or anything, but can I
Speaker 1: want to explore I want to explore this. If we may,
Speaker 1: you won't spiral, But I.
Speaker 2: Wait, so no I would. I'm sorry because I would
Speaker 2: really like to talk about this more. But my thoughts
Speaker 2: I just can't put them in words in English. But
Speaker 2: I'm really trying.
Speaker 1: Well, well, okay, well, by the way, you're doing great.
Speaker 1: You don't your your English is great. I'm just curious
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 5: What why?
Speaker 1: Okay? I get if? Why does it do?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I guess A A, do people tell you a lot
Speaker 1: that you're amazing? And then B why does it bother
Speaker 1: you when people tell you that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, people say it like my friends say it sometimes. No,
Speaker 2: well they said it, they say it like once, right,
Speaker 2: they don't say it every day. But I guess it
Speaker 2: bothers me because you know, I don't feel like I'm
Speaker 2: doing anything amazing and it you know, I just get
Speaker 2: to if everyone says you're amazing while you're not, you're
Speaker 2: just never going to improve.
Speaker 1: I feel like, no, well yeah, yeah, yeah, I absolutely
Speaker 1: know what what that feels like. Uh, because yeah, if
Speaker 1: everyone says you're amazing and right, because there's a weird
Speaker 1: this is a fucking this is a classic thing. Is
Speaker 1: uh if everyone says you're amazing.
Speaker 2: And it's pretty pretty uh normal human experience, you could say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you start walking around thinking, well, hey, I'm amazing,
Speaker 1: you know, then you just get what Then you're you're right,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna improve. But then the opposite sucks too,
Speaker 1: right because you don't want to write if you think
Speaker 1: if you walk around all the time thinking that you're amazing,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna improve. But then if you walk around
Speaker 1: all the time being like I suck, then you're just
Speaker 1: gonna hate your life.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think I suck. I just think
Speaker 2: I'm not remarkable. Like you said, I think I'm pretty normal.
Speaker 2: Chill guy, what is what does that mean? What is like?
Speaker 1: Okay, see, your friends have told you. They maybe they
Speaker 1: don't tell you every day, but they have told you before.
Speaker 1: Your friends, people in your life have told you what
Speaker 1: you're doing by not only working and going to school,
Speaker 1: but also you know, being a partner and being a
Speaker 1: father and you know being a loving kid, Like everything
Speaker 1: you're doing is remarkable. So people have told you that
Speaker 1: what it like what is remarkable to you? Like, because
Speaker 1: clearly you have an idea or like a bar for
Speaker 1: what incredible or remarkable looks like, and that you're not there.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: Where's that bar at? Where does it look like?
Speaker 2: Well? I don't know what I would put the bar
Speaker 2: like on someone I don't know, but for me, I
Speaker 2: guess I would be amazing if you know, I didn't flag.
Speaker 2: I feel like I flack a lot. Is that I mean,
Speaker 2: like I thought I mentioned many times in this conversation
Speaker 2: YouTube shorts because that's the thing that's on my mental
Speaker 2: lot because I really spend I think, too much time there,
Speaker 2: which is not a productive time and I could really
Speaker 2: spend it on something else, like I don't know, learning
Speaker 2: or just being present, cleaning my room or something like that,
Speaker 2: and instead of doing that, I choose the instant gratification
Speaker 2: like I mentioned, and you know, just flag and then
Speaker 2: I feel bad. So I don't think there's you know,
Speaker 2: that's not remarkable, right when you do something you don't
Speaker 2: want to do and you still do it because you're
Speaker 2: like it feels good at the moment.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, yeah, I have, like I actually I have
Speaker 1: so many thoughts on that okay, but your your child.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's kind of complicated situation, but it's getting
Speaker 2: fixed soon. So well, I know, okay, let me tell you,
Speaker 2: let me get you kind of different into this. I know,
Speaker 2: like people are going to freak out. But yeah, let's
Speaker 2: say I got my girlfriend pregnant when she was eighteen
Speaker 2: and I was plenty.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: By the way, like the content, like the age you
Speaker 2: can consent to sex in my country is fifteen, so
Speaker 2: it's all right.
Speaker 1: When she was and you were twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, I was actually nineteen.
Speaker 3: Sorry, okay, all right, I was nineteen and she was eighteen.
Speaker 2: We are a year and a half and I was
Speaker 2: still nineteen. Yeah, ok so, and she is still she
Speaker 2: was still finishing high school because like high high school
Speaker 2: school system in Czech Republic is you study high school
Speaker 2: till you were like eighteen nineteen. I don't know how
Speaker 2: it's in America. So she is still yeah, yeah, she
Speaker 2: is still finishing. She was still finishing high school. She
Speaker 2: was in her first year and in sure publicly do
Speaker 2: four years. Well, there are different types of high school education,
Speaker 2: but I guess the tradition like it's four years, and
Speaker 2: she was doing her third year she was studying. So
Speaker 2: she actually had to finish high school for one year
Speaker 2: while our daughter was you know, she was born last summer,
Speaker 2: and then this whole year she had to still finish
Speaker 2: high school, and so she had to stay at her
Speaker 2: grand grandparents' house. And I'm actually studying in a different city,
Speaker 2: like half across the Czech Republic. I would say, it's
Speaker 2: a five hour ride by train. So I wasn't capable
Speaker 2: of going like spending with them all the time, all
Speaker 2: the time, the whole week. So I went to work
Speaker 2: and studied like on weekdays like Monday, Tuesday to Friday,
Speaker 2: and and I went back on the weekends on. So
Speaker 2: that's been last year. But now she finished high school
Speaker 2: with the nice grades and we will live together now, hm.
Speaker 1: So she so you were studying while she was taking
Speaker 1: care of the baby with her grandma and finishing up
Speaker 1: her shit, and then you're doing your ship and now
Speaker 1: the plan is, okay, we're all going to live together.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well I was visiting, like think I was
Speaker 2: coming back every weekend. Yeah, okay, okay, like we are together,
Speaker 2: you know, just it just sucked because I wasn't.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, look, I get you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta go to school, you gotta get
Speaker 1: an education. You're doing what you gotta do for the family,
Speaker 1: and then coming back on the weekends to be with
Speaker 1: the family.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I I when I when I heard
Speaker 2: that we are going to have a baby, I my
Speaker 2: immediate thought was, Okay, I'm gonna quit school and start
Speaker 2: working full time. But well, we talked together and with
Speaker 2: her parents and my parents, and we decided that it
Speaker 2: would be the best if I finished the school because
Speaker 2: I'm studying electrical engineering, and the salary really really spikes
Speaker 2: when you finish school, like her university, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's like an investments.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you're blessed as fuck to have.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: Sounds like your families, like your family and her family
Speaker 1: are like being extremely helpful and being like, all right,
Speaker 1: will you know, we'll help you guys out so that
Speaker 1: you can you don't have to drop out and fucking
Speaker 1: go to work and you can finish school and she
Speaker 1: can finish school. And it's nice. It's nice to you
Speaker 1: have family to help you out with. That's you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're a family view of each other,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I think Czech Republic is a
Speaker 2: little bit more family oriented than let's say, America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about like traveling, and shit is America.
Speaker 1: And it's funny when you you know, what is so
Speaker 1: dumb is And maybe maybe it's just me. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna project on other Americans. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speak on behalf of other Americans. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna throw myself under. That is when I when
Speaker 1: growing up in America, I think I just always thought
Speaker 1: like like like just America as the default, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's a stupid American thing of like
Speaker 1: you grew up in America and you think that like
Speaker 1: the way that I don't know if this happens everywhere,
Speaker 1: but like you, you just when you grow up, you
Speaker 1: think that the way that you grow up and the
Speaker 1: culture that you live in. Sorry, I'm gonna stop projecting.
Speaker 1: I thought that the way I grew up and the
Speaker 1: culture that I lived in was just how everyone is.
Speaker 1: And then and then yes, I get older and I
Speaker 1: travel more and I learn more, and I realize that
Speaker 1: it's not the case. And yes, individualism is a strongly
Speaker 1: American thing. It's like we have our own cars, and
Speaker 1: you can't you cannot ever tell us what the fuck
Speaker 1: we can do because we're we are free. And then
Speaker 1: you've got to other countries and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, people people have like like I think, like adults,
Speaker 1: like being being like twenty seven and living with your
Speaker 1: family is I think a way more of a No,
Speaker 1: it's like a very non American thing, but it's like
Speaker 1: very normal. I believe in like Europe for like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's but Europe and like other countries.
Speaker 2: To have you don't get the house well okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: just so you don't get the wrong idea. It's not
Speaker 2: you're not the Czech Republic. It's not like I didn't
Speaker 2: mean to say all some oriented maybe like India or something.
Speaker 2: It's not like well, if you're twenty seven and you're
Speaker 2: living in a parents house, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Here too, so interesting. I thought it's maybe it's.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know, sorry, go ahead, go ahead, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I just don't think it's as much of
Speaker 2: capitalism like influence here. It's just more family oriented. Like
Speaker 2: people are generally much poorer here than America. I would say,
Speaker 2: so we like to you know, don't chase money, but
Speaker 2: like relationships, I guess maybe more.
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. I'm talking totally out
Speaker 1: of my ass here, but I feel like, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: definitely maybe it's like Latin American countries or something like that,
Speaker 1: where it's like it's very common to have like three
Speaker 1: generations in one household. I also thought that was like
Speaker 1: a European thing.
Speaker 7: But uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, America is like, you know, you gotta get you
Speaker 1: gotta fucking do your own ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you you have like do what your anime? Not really,
Speaker 7: but no, okay, I think I think America.
Speaker 2: You know, you you like when you look at the
Speaker 2: person you the first thing you like, they're like power
Speaker 2: level is how much money they are making like that
Speaker 2: that that's what makes them, you know how they say it,
Speaker 2: U like a great person if he has a lot
Speaker 2: of money.
Speaker 1: I think in America, yeah, that's where that's the where
Speaker 1: the value judgment is.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right, yeah, yeah, that's what I meant. It's
Speaker 2: not like that in Czech Republic. I would say, I
Speaker 2: think that's that's the main difference there.
Speaker 1: Tell me more about that. That's interesting, Like the value
Speaker 1: like the value judge is about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I told you many, many of
Speaker 2: my information that I take in about American culture, let's say,
Speaker 2: is from the internet, because I've never been to America, right,
Speaker 2: and I don't even have any friends from America. But
Speaker 2: you know, I maybe I look at some video and
Speaker 2: there's a guy that I don't know. Like let's say,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't want well, I don't want to get
Speaker 2: into that, but let's say maybe Andrew tight when when
Speaker 2: he he makes a lot of money, of course, but
Speaker 2: like he is coming people in my opinion, Okay, but
Speaker 2: let's say in the sake of the argument, someone is
Speaker 2: making a lot of money, but he's coming people or
Speaker 2: like doing some shady things. In America, you I think
Speaker 2: Americans tend to overlook the you know, shady business. It
Speaker 2: just depends on how much money he's making. But in
Speaker 2: Chech Republic, you know, he would say he's not really cool.
Speaker 2: Or that's maybe my perspective on it too. Like I
Speaker 2: don't wanna, I don't want to speak on behalf of
Speaker 2: Czech Republic people, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, but I mean, look, we uh we
Speaker 1: elected the fucking guy with the Golden tower. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't think I don't think I don't think
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Back it up. We elected a dude
Speaker 1: who has multiples made of gold with his name on
Speaker 1: them in gold, and we were like, we were like, yep,
Speaker 1: that's that. That's awesome. We did, we did look at that.
Speaker 1: We did look at the Golden Tower and go, that's
Speaker 1: that's super awesome. That's that's sick. So yes, you're right,
Speaker 1: Uh those are I think those are not?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, And.
Speaker 6: You know, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I think when you ask American like kids
Speaker 2: or like maybe young adults or how we say, uh,
Speaker 2: you ask them like what do what do they want
Speaker 2: to do in life? I think a lot of them
Speaker 2: say just to make a lot of money, and you know,
Speaker 2: they just I think it's it's not like it's not
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Into Republic interesting, you know.
Speaker 2: We say maybe some specific thing, not just making money.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I feel like everything I'm about to say is completely
Speaker 1: anecdotal and might be because I'm in a bubble. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess We're all in bubbles, but like I I
Speaker 1: have I have I feel like in America this is
Speaker 1: like a generational ish thing. Like I feel like more
Speaker 1: like more people in like younger generations are like trying
Speaker 1: to find like meaning for themselves outside of work and shit,
Speaker 1: where like, you know, our parents were like I don't know,
Speaker 1: they had they had, they had different, theyse grew up different,
Speaker 1: I think. I think. Yeah, the our generation, I think
Speaker 1: is more interested in like trying to find meaning instead
Speaker 1: of our parents' generation, which was like, Okay, I'll just
Speaker 1: go do this job and I'll do it forever and
Speaker 1: it'll pay the bills and that's just how it works.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well you could say when you're you are
Speaker 2: looking for a meaning instead of looking to you know,
Speaker 2: just to survive, you're doing pretty good now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, no, that's a yeah, definitely, I
Speaker 1: think I think so too. Yeah. No, if you know,
Speaker 1: if you're able to, like I think, if you're if
Speaker 1: you're in a position where you're able to ponder, you're
Speaker 1: doing great. I was looking this up recently. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this, like all the all the like I
Speaker 1: don't know about all, but like a lot of the
Speaker 1: the like major philosophers were rich, like fucking like Descard
Speaker 1: and Marcus Aurelius and uh fucking I think Plato. I
Speaker 1: was looking this up, like they're all rich because like
Speaker 1: sitting around pondering the meaning of life requires you to
Speaker 1: not be in survival mode. That's why all those motherfuckers
Speaker 1: were rich or like it came from like nobility or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: I think interesting. Interesting? What the fuck else was I was? I?
Speaker 1: Were we talking about? See this whole? You know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: This conversation started with you thinking that this was going
Speaker 1: to be a waste or no, not a waste. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't say that. What did you say?
Speaker 4: You were?
Speaker 3: You were?
Speaker 1: You were you were afraid that this conversation would be
Speaker 1: a waste? I think is that accurate to say? And
Speaker 1: then and we've been and look at this, We've been
Speaker 1: talking for at least an hour.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Man. Well look I don't I think think Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure, I know you hate this and it's almost
Speaker 1: mean of me to do it knowing that you hate it.
Speaker 2: But I'm going.
Speaker 1: But I do think that you you I'm very I'm I'm.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm warmed. I don't know if warms. I
Speaker 1: don't know if warm is the right word, but I'll
Speaker 1: use warmed by your noble intentions and uh that your
Speaker 1: persistence in pursuing them. You know you want to be
Speaker 1: a good, loving dad. I can tell that you are,
Speaker 1: and well if I can U.
Speaker 2: Yeah again, I just don't know whether what how? Oh wait,
Speaker 2: how did you say it humble? Did you say humble? Did?
Speaker 1: I didn't say humble? I didn't say I mean you are?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, no, what you say my intentions were?
Speaker 1: I think your intentions are that you want to be
Speaker 1: a good dad and provide for your kids.
Speaker 2: No, but you know what kind of intention you said
Speaker 2: some some words.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you had noble?
Speaker 2: You know your noble? Yeah, noble, I'm sorry. No, I
Speaker 2: I don't know where that's what came from, because I'm
Speaker 2: just doing what I want, like it was my dream.
Speaker 2: If my dream was I don't know, making a million dollars,
Speaker 2: I would try to make a million dollars. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: no nobility in that.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure, I'm just doing you know what?
Speaker 6: You know what?
Speaker 1: By the way, everything you're saying is right. You just
Speaker 1: you just so happened for whatever, you know what? You
Speaker 1: know what, I'll give you know what, I'll give this
Speaker 1: back to you. What's your name again? Did you even
Speaker 1: give me your name or any name?
Speaker 2: I think guys said some bullshit like ob.
Speaker 1: Okay, ob you know what, you know what? Sure, Obi,
Speaker 1: you just so happened, for whatever cosmic fucking reason to
Speaker 1: be born in a body, in a brain where the
Speaker 1: neuron the chemicals in your brain, and this stimuli you
Speaker 1: encountered over the course of your life, uh deterministically led
Speaker 1: to by happenstance. Your dreams are something that are traditionally
Speaker 1: uh uh seen as noble, and that is just a
Speaker 1: that's a that's a fact. Yes, you had you got
Speaker 1: lucky that your dream is something noble because if your
Speaker 1: dream was I guess that you wanted to make a
Speaker 1: billion dollars and and invade the rest of Europe and
Speaker 1: make Czech Republic the world leader, and you wanted to
Speaker 1: kill a bunch of people, and that was what you
Speaker 1: really wanted to do, you probably would be doing that.
Speaker 1: And it's there's really no cosmic reason why why that
Speaker 1: didn't end up being your dream instead of raising a
Speaker 1: nice family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I I kinda I kind of take it back.
Speaker 2: I think you wrong, But because if if I if
Speaker 2: I wanted to kill a million people, I don't think
Speaker 2: I would do that. No, my consciousness wouldn't let me.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm a little nice guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but your consciousness wouldn't let you. But your consciousness,
Speaker 1: but that's because you're who you are, and you're not,
Speaker 1: you know, Hitler. I don't know. I'm spouting a lot
Speaker 1: of deterministic Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 2: So I'm not the Hitler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think you're hit I'm gonna, you
Speaker 1: know what, forget every forget everything. You know what, why
Speaker 1: don't we make that the new bar? I mean, why
Speaker 1: don't we make that your bar? Can you not?
Speaker 3: Can you not?
Speaker 1: Can you not accept my observation of you as remarkable
Speaker 1: based based on the fact that you're not Hitler?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, I'm remarkable before that, remarkable.
Speaker 1: For not being Hitler. We're all remarkable for not being Hitler.
Speaker 1: We can tell you, we can do that.
Speaker 2: But some people could be a little bit nicer to
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's true Hitler, and so could and you know what,
Speaker 1: Hitler could have been a little bit nicer too, but
Speaker 1: it's too late for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah he could. I think that was some space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where's Hitler's cott? Do you believe in reincarnation or
Speaker 1: like in uh that like consciousness can't go away like
Speaker 1: it has to like reappear in some form.
Speaker 2: Oh well, well, I believe in heaven. But yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I believe in heaven. But the energy in the universe
Speaker 2: is finite, right.
Speaker 1: Right, So what so whatever was going on in Hitler's brain,
Speaker 1: whatever that was, that's is that. I wonder if that's somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope it's not. Maybe it got maybe it
Speaker 2: got well, actually, can I can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Just off topic, you know, I okay, I don't know
Speaker 2: how to how to say it, so maybe, but okay,
Speaker 2: I really wanted to buy your hoodie but it's not
Speaker 2: on stock? Will it ever be on stock? Like the.
Speaker 1: The A the R, the Trivian Trivian Gecko hoodie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the green, the green one Green. Yeah, it's really amazing.
Speaker 2: It's like the best one there.
Speaker 1: No, I think we only haven't. I don't really, I haven't.
Speaker 1: I think it's only what I haven't paid any attention
Speaker 1: to my merch store in a while, but I think
Speaker 1: it's only in white. I think we ran out of
Speaker 1: the green. I think I because I use like a
Speaker 1: print on demand service and so whatever. The guy in
Speaker 1: the warehouse that I use has at the time is
Speaker 1: typically what he prints us. I think it's only in white. Well,
Speaker 1: you don't like the white I think the white school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what is cool. But you know my
Speaker 2: problem with white is it's such a general color. Everybody
Speaker 2: has white, but not many people have the green one,
Speaker 2: like the light green color on their hoodie. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: So you know, just my point. I think that's an
Speaker 2: amazing goody.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I'll try to get white. Great, How what
Speaker 1: is it are you able to? What is shipping like
Speaker 1: for you? When you go to that thing and you
Speaker 1: put in your thing? It must that must cost a
Speaker 1: lot of money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, well I can I can try it. Well,
Speaker 5: I mean I would. I would try to get it
Speaker 5: for my birthday. You know, it's kind of extensive for
Speaker 5: chick Republic. But yeah, I mean it's it's.
Speaker 2: All right, it's not that much. You know what.
Speaker 1: Seven, I'll send you one. No way I want to
Speaker 1: send you. I don't think let me I have to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna message Mike. I'm gonna message I have a
Speaker 1: I have a guy who does my merch. I'll message him.
Speaker 1: I'll ask her if you could send over a comp
Speaker 1: order to to sec to the Czech Republic. How do
Speaker 1: we get in contact?
Speaker 2: No way, bro, no way you want you want to?
Speaker 1: Do? You have Instagram?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm not using it, but I have it, so okay.
Speaker 1: Send me an Instagram d M. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, I I think I sent you
Speaker 2: an email, but I send it to the fucking wrong
Speaker 2: email address, to your work email address.
Speaker 1: I'm wait. Hold, I can't send you the green one.
Speaker 1: I don't have any of those. But I can send
Speaker 1: you a white one.
Speaker 2: That's all right. I mean it's a free bro. I'm
Speaker 2: so excited for anyone.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, if I hold on, I just logistically, logistics,
Speaker 1: I haven't actually I haven't actually fucked around with my
Speaker 1: merch star and a while. Logistically if I could send you,
Speaker 1: I know for a fact. Okay, let me let me
Speaker 1: all right, hold on, let me let me readjust my promise.
Speaker 2: I can I just say something.
Speaker 1: Ahead?
Speaker 2: Can I just you know, just an idea. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to be ungrateful or anything. If it's possible, Yeah,
Speaker 2: could you maybe try to sign it? And I give
Speaker 2: it to my girlfriend because she is a big friend too.
Speaker 2: I showed I showed her to showed her the podcast
Speaker 2: and she really likes it. I mean, it would be
Speaker 2: amazing gifts. Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1: If I would, I happily I would do that for you.
Speaker 1: But all of the these are all in Ohio.
Speaker 2: It's all right, it's all right then, No, it's okay,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I wish, I wish I could do that for you,
Speaker 1: but they're all in Ohio.
Speaker 2: I think I will give it to her anyway, or
Speaker 2: wish her who is so do Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: give you. I don't again the logistics of the merch't
Speaker 1: try to send you the white thing. If I can't,
Speaker 1: I promise you I will send you some form of merch.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to make it the white one.
Speaker 1: But if I can't, I will. I'm gonna send you
Speaker 1: some ship with sending an Instagram DM withies and ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will send you after the call, because you
Speaker 2: know I'm not telephoning through internet. I don't want to
Speaker 2: suck it up.
Speaker 1: Sorry, what were you gonna say?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just wanted to say, even if you
Speaker 2: don't do if you can do it, just the intent
Speaker 2: really made my fucking day.
Speaker 1: And you know what, and you know what the best
Speaker 1: part is is if if it works out, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to do it. I just gotta make sure logistically
Speaker 1: I can do it. But the cool thing is is
Speaker 1: that if you were if it works out, is that
Speaker 1: you have a you have a you if if it
Speaker 1: works out, if I can send it to you, because again,
Speaker 1: I would hate if I could promise you this. And
Speaker 1: then my guy in Ohio was like, no, it's a
Speaker 1: ship to the I promise you. I will try. But
Speaker 1: if it works out then and you hold it, you
Speaker 1: get to you'll, well, it'll be sick because you can
Speaker 1: be like I have a I'm physically holding you'll, because
Speaker 1: you'll be like this sweatshirt is worth exactly two hours
Speaker 1: of my time.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's fucking true. There it is.
Speaker 1: The sweatshirt is is this is how much two hours
Speaker 1: of my time is worth? Is worth this?
Speaker 2: And you know what, you know what the coast of
Speaker 2: the fucking hoodie would be like two times, but I
Speaker 2: would make in my job for two hours. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Really, how much the fucking cost to send a thing
Speaker 1: to uh? The Czech Republic?
Speaker 2: No, not even not even the shipping, like how much
Speaker 2: the check Republic isn't Yeah, yeah, the checker Czech Republic
Speaker 2: isn't really you know, the richest country. So you know,
Speaker 2: dead hoodie would cost me five hours of my time.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 6: And so okay, I don't yeah, so when okay, I
Speaker 6: just want to say, I don't fucking I don't get
Speaker 6: how the fucking Americans can get can go broke bro
Speaker 6: like because these things cost the same you know here
Speaker 6: in Czech.
Speaker 2: Republic and they're in America, but you make ten times
Speaker 2: our salary. Bro, how do you how do people get
Speaker 2: broke bro?
Speaker 1: Well? Because well, well, well, yeah, I mean if you well, well, like.
Speaker 2: I mean this hard, I understand the food is yeah, well.
Speaker 1: Like like the sixty like well okay, so like like yeah,
Speaker 1: like sixty dollars to buy a hoodie on the internet,
Speaker 1: is I think that's about right for America. But like
Speaker 1: if well, I mean, I mean, the short answer is
Speaker 1: is that Americans make more money compared to I think
Speaker 1: this is a question for an economist and not a
Speaker 1: dumb ass who uses the who just googles shit and
Speaker 1: watches YouTube videos. But I think the short answer is,
Speaker 1: like we make more money in comparison to the rest
Speaker 1: of the world, but also because uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: just everything is more expensive in America, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean like when you like you go to Japan and
Speaker 1: they make everything there is cheaper, but they make less money.
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's how I think that's how
Speaker 1: it works.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I assume. I assume that if somebody made a bunch
Speaker 1: of American dollars, right and then moved to the Czech Republic,
Speaker 1: their money would go farther versus if you took your check.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what is it
Speaker 1: a rupie or whatever you guys got and you move
Speaker 1: to and you go to America, it's like, oh, my
Speaker 1: ship is worthless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I understand because of living is much higher, right,
Speaker 2: but you know, things like this they cost the same.
Speaker 2: Like if I want to buy PS five, it will
Speaker 2: it will cost me ten times more in uh, you know,
Speaker 2: time than everage American you know.
Speaker 1: Way interesting. Wait, but a PS so like if you
Speaker 1: go to like if you go wait ship, Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you buy like everything.
Speaker 2: On Amazon, everything on everything with you if you want to.
Speaker 1: Buy if you want to buy a PlayStation five on
Speaker 1: Amazon in the Czech Republic and you go to like
Speaker 1: Amazon dot c H or c z K or whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck it's does it cost the same as pretty
Speaker 1: much American dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, you know that's just my rent that I
Speaker 2: don't know how American people get broke, because, yeah, I
Speaker 2: understand the cost of living, it's much higher. But you know,
Speaker 2: these luxury you could call it luxury things the cost
Speaker 2: of the same.
Speaker 1: Mhmm. Yeah, I guess, I guess, I guess, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess that's true. I guess. Yeah, we have we have
Speaker 1: access to Yeah, if your Americans have access to more
Speaker 1: two more luxuries. But like our our basic like like
Speaker 1: what what do you pay? How much is like you
Speaker 1: don't live in Prague, right, you live in like.
Speaker 2: We're part of No No No practice, Like two times
Speaker 2: more expensive than everybody else in Chicken Public.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't like so like wherever you live right,
Speaker 1: like where you were, like the location that you're calling
Speaker 1: me from. How much is how much would like a
Speaker 1: one bedroom apartment cost per month?
Speaker 2: Oh? Wait? One bedroom? Okay, I'm just in the process
Speaker 2: of like getting two bedroom apartments Okay, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 2: what do you mean by one bedroom because we have
Speaker 2: like one room and okay.
Speaker 1: Well forget about Like, okay, you're you're in the process
Speaker 1: of looking for a two better apartment. How much does
Speaker 1: that cost?
Speaker 2: Two two bedroom? But it's like two rooms and a kitchen.
Speaker 2: It's not like I don't know what two bedroom means
Speaker 2: because like there are no two beds, there's just two rooms.
Speaker 1: Well what well, okay, yes, it's two rooms and a
Speaker 1: kitchen one bed Yeah, okay, how much is.
Speaker 2: That that would cost a like twenty twenty thousand crowns
Speaker 2: and one daughter is twenty five so maybe you can
Speaker 2: round it up like nine hundred eight hundred dollars for
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 1: Okay, check crown to us D. It's it's twenty thousand
Speaker 1: crowns to USD.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's yeah, it's twenty yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a two room ish. Okay, so two
Speaker 1: rooms and a kitchen is twenty thousand crowns a month?
Speaker 2: Yeah pretty much.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's about nine hundred and ten bucks a month.
Speaker 1: And you're in like the you're in like a non
Speaker 1: major city in the Czech Republic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am in a major city, but you know,
Speaker 2: Czech Republic is like, you're not You're not in like
Speaker 2: the cities aren't. Really I'm not in a rural area.
Speaker 2: I mean just I'm just in city.
Speaker 1: You know, you're in a normal ass city. You're not
Speaker 1: You're not in like ass fuck country farm.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'll tell you how it is. It's Prague,
Speaker 2: and then it's all like every city, it's practice just
Speaker 2: the main like the most expensive one, and then all
Speaker 2: this all the others are pretty much the same pretty much.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm trying to think of like what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of like the American Like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like, do I compare this to like you know,
Speaker 1: some randoms, well or do I? Or do I compare
Speaker 1: this town to like Saint Louis, Missouri, you know, like
Speaker 1: a it's not like the most major city. It's like
Speaker 1: a place.
Speaker 2: Well okay, okay, let me tell you. I'm living in Bruno,
Speaker 2: which is the second largest city in Czech Republic. But
Speaker 2: if you google how much population he is in Berno,
Speaker 2: it's like the smallest city in America.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm actually genuine this fast. I like, I like,
Speaker 1: I like, uh think about this stuff. What berno check Listen,
Speaker 1: you guys gotta get some fucking this city this this
Speaker 1: city's name needs more vowels in it. The city's name
Speaker 1: has too many concepts.
Speaker 2: If you don't have much vowels, is it's a.
Speaker 1: Vowel A E, I O U. Okay, all right, it's
Speaker 1: got one vowel. But yeah, this city needs a couple
Speaker 1: more vowels in it. Okay, this is bro okay, all right,
Speaker 1: this is all right, all right. As a population of
Speaker 1: around four hundred thousand, Okay, what's the population of Saint Louis, Missouri.
Speaker 1: Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: Population Actually four hundred thousand, isn't it? Okay?
Speaker 1: All right, So Saint Louis, Missouri has less people than
Speaker 1: where you live.
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, to.
Speaker 1: Say, Lot's Missouri's got about two hundred and eighty one
Speaker 1: thousand people. Lois, Missouri is smaller than where you live.
Speaker 1: Where you live, you can get what I think. We're
Speaker 1: both on the same page about is a two bedroom apartment.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know if the I
Speaker 1: don't know if two bedroom apartment means something different to
Speaker 1: you in the Czech Republic than it does in the
Speaker 1: United States.
Speaker 2: But well, because when you say bedroom, like, are there
Speaker 2: like two beds or just two like rooms?
Speaker 1: You can look at a two bedroom apartment would look
Speaker 1: like it has two rooms and then it made up.
Speaker 1: Maybe it has a hallway, and then it has like
Speaker 1: a living room, and then maybe like a tiny kitchen.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of bigger. I think that would cost
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand.
Speaker 1: In all right, twenty five thousand. That's twenty five thousand,
Speaker 1: all right, twenty five thousand, all right, So it would
Speaker 1: cost around twelve hundred bucks for a two better apartment
Speaker 1: in a major city.
Speaker 2: What is.
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Hmm?
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to say a two better
Speaker 1: an apartment. Let's look this up. Let's go on, Zilo.
Speaker 1: I don't know why this is fun. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is interesting to me.
Speaker 2: I'm actually pretty interested. Then it's to pick. Yeah, it's again,
Speaker 2: let's no, it's to me, it's very interesting because I
Speaker 2: think about this all the time, like, yeah, how bad
Speaker 2: of living situation is in America? Because everybody says pretty bad?
Speaker 2: So I just want to compare.
Speaker 1: All right, Saint Louis, Missouri. All right, let's do this.
Speaker 1: Hold on Saint Louis, Missouri. Uh, Saint Louis simmo. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. All right, a right, this is this
Speaker 1: is like fuck all right for rent all we're gonna
Speaker 1: do beds, two bedroom all right, maximum fourteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: All right, oh shaka, you know what, it's kind of
Speaker 1: really yeah, you can you can get a two bedroom apartment.
Speaker 1: Hold on, all right, I'm looking at zillo right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's places in Saint Louis, Missouri you can get a
Speaker 1: two bed like look, this is a nice two bedroom
Speaker 1: apartment for wow, like one thousand bucks a month. This
Speaker 1: is here's one for twelve hundred one point alright. So
Speaker 1: the cost, yes, so the cost of living. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: what you're telling me is true. And yeah, what you
Speaker 1: tell me is true. And the cost of a two
Speaker 1: bedroom apartment in the second largest city in Czech Republic
Speaker 1: is twelve hundred dollars a month. That from this very
Speaker 1: quick Zillow search, it looks like you can get pretty
Speaker 1: much the same thing in Saint Louis, Missouri, which has
Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the population.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I just want to say that yearly, the
Speaker 2: average check salary is like twenty.
Speaker 1: K twenty thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 2: A year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sucks. That sucks for you guys at the
Speaker 1: Czech Republic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, what the fuck? I didn't even know how
Speaker 2: fucking vent it is.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Is it really cost to that and that? Wait?
Speaker 1: So you so the average salary in what is it? Bruno?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 2: Oh love Bruno, I don't know what average Wait.
Speaker 1: The average salary in bro Is is twenty thousand. Is
Speaker 1: the equivalent of twenty thousand dollars. The average salary and
Speaker 1: bro is the equivalent of twenty thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 1: two US a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, and then the.
Speaker 1: Cost of a two better apartment is twelve hundred a month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the same. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the don't know what the average
Speaker 1: salary is in I don't know what the average salary
Speaker 1: is in Saint Louis, Missouri, but it's absolutely got to
Speaker 1: be more than twenty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you are I guess if you
Speaker 2: are like good in America, you you make like one
Speaker 2: hundred K, you'll know, like you're pretty comfortable. No, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I sometimes I listen today for ends Day
Speaker 2: and that's the conclusion I came to.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, that's crazy, I guess. Uh yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy for you guys.
Speaker 2: So I'm telling you how are Americans getting broke? Bro wow?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay wait tell me this. Okay, twenty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year? What's your guys? Do you guys? What's
Speaker 1: your guys healthcare situation?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well yeah, I mean yeah, that's true. These things we.
Speaker 1: Have, like you guys do you guys? Do you guys
Speaker 1: are pretty healthcare?
Speaker 2: Oh well, we paid in our Texas, but it's it's
Speaker 2: cheaper than the US deferently, you know, your healthcare is
Speaker 2: fucking scam.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we we either either you get either you
Speaker 1: have to pay for healthcare, like I pay like like
Speaker 1: I'm self employed, so I paid like just three hundred
Speaker 1: some like three hundred and twenty dollars a month for
Speaker 1: just healthcare. And then if you have a job usually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just and yeah, and then we have
Speaker 2: free schools.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait wait do you guys have free university?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there we go. This is you know, until
Speaker 2: you were like twenty five, you know, even a free university.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna graduate with an electrical so you're gonna
Speaker 1: so you're gonna graduate with an electrical engineering degree with
Speaker 1: zero debt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's well why I'm doing it, right,
Speaker 2: Because if I just take like, I don't know, five
Speaker 2: years off, then I have to pay it. But if
Speaker 2: you don't take any any years off and after high
Speaker 2: school go straight into UNI and you finish it with
Speaker 2: no like delays you, it's free.
Speaker 1: Well, how do American Well, actually a couple things. Well,
Speaker 1: all right, I mean this, sorry, go ahead, you go ahead.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you this. Maybe this will blow your mind.
Speaker 5: This is not.
Speaker 2: It's just my experience or how I see things into Republic.
Speaker 2: But I think other than you know, how do you
Speaker 2: say it, like borrowing money for the house or you know,
Speaker 2: to buy a house. Other than that, I think ninety
Speaker 2: to eighty percent of people into Republic were never in debt.
Speaker 1: Other than that, who.
Speaker 2: Like that? That isn't really a thing here. They don't
Speaker 2: have credit cards pretty much, no one has a credit
Speaker 2: card into the Republic.
Speaker 1: You guys don't have credit cards. In the Czech Republic.
Speaker 2: We have, we have them, but nobody uses them because
Speaker 2: into Republic there aren't really any benefits to credit cards.
Speaker 2: I know you have some benefits. They don't. They don't
Speaker 2: offer any so nobody is actually using them. Everybody has
Speaker 2: a debit card, nobody car.
Speaker 1: Do you have like a credit score?
Speaker 2: No, that's not a thing here, I and I that's
Speaker 2: one of the biggest American stemps. No, like credit card?
Speaker 2: What the fuck is that?
Speaker 1: Well, okay, hed American score. But well, we have a
Speaker 1: couple of things.
Speaker 3: Is one, Yeah, college is Yeah, I can see it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, college is really fucking expensive. Health if you if
Speaker 1: it's not part of a if you don't have like
Speaker 1: a really good employer sponsored plan, healthcare is really expensive.
Speaker 1: And then also like a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: plans like don't come with ship, like dental. And also
Speaker 1: even if you have a plan like like that, like
Speaker 1: doctors will just be like, yo, we also did this
Speaker 1: ship and that call and that wasn't in your insurance,
Speaker 1: so you got to pay for this, you know, like
Speaker 1: fuck it. I think a lot of insurance plans don't
Speaker 1: cover ship. And then also here's a big one. Here's
Speaker 1: a big one.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: Bro broneal what's his name is? Place that's with no
Speaker 1: with no fucking vowels in it.
Speaker 2: Well, uh what what?
Speaker 1: What where do you live again?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm looking at Burno. I see a picture
Speaker 1: of a big fat fucking hold on, hold on, b
Speaker 1: are no, No, it's not a cock. We have got
Speaker 1: we got a big fat fucking what do you guys have?
Speaker 1: Hold on? Sorry?
Speaker 2: So this.
Speaker 1: Uh oh a big fat tram. You gotta tram. You
Speaker 1: gotta something, you know, you know what we got we got. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys got trams. If you're an American and you
Speaker 1: don't live in like in in in like yeah, if
Speaker 1: you live in Saint Louis, Missouri, you gotta have a car.
Speaker 1: You have health and you gotta go. You got my
Speaker 1: car insurance, you know if you take a fucking Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: Like here's the all of all of all of like
Speaker 1: the major like Americans it is. They all have like
Speaker 1: public transportation, it's just shitty.
Speaker 2: But like, how can a subway be shipped? Bro?
Speaker 1: How can a subway be How can a subway be shitty?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: A subway, A subway. A subway can be shitty if
Speaker 1: it doesn't go to a lot of places and if
Speaker 1: it's unreliable, or if it's dangerous. Yeah, okay, okay, like
Speaker 1: that's like that's a that's a huge it's a very
Speaker 1: European thing to have like safe, reliable, expansive public transportation
Speaker 1: that's cheap, whereas like we all have to well well
Speaker 1: I'm I mean one of the reasons York City is
Speaker 1: because they have public transportation and I hate having a car.
Speaker 2: But like.
Speaker 1: In yeah, in pretty much every American stuff, I think
Speaker 1: it's uh.
Speaker 2: It's needed to say that gas is very much cheaper
Speaker 2: in America.
Speaker 1: The gas is cheaper in America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because uh, you know, you have you just
Speaker 2: you're kind of the gas country. No, like you have
Speaker 2: like you know, gas is just really much more expensive
Speaker 2: than Czech Republic in comparison to you know, like the salary. Definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it depends where you live, Like if you live
Speaker 1: in like gas in California is is insane. Uh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: gas in Saint Louis is. Uh. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I'm talking about gas in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but yeah, I mean there's trade Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing is there's like there's trade offs with
Speaker 1: a lot of the ship because you know, Americans because yeah,
Speaker 1: Americans are always like, We're always looking at Europe being
Speaker 1: like Americans always looking at Europe being like, damn, you
Speaker 1: guys have free health care and free like education and
Speaker 1: free public transport, and then you guys are looking at
Speaker 1: us being like, damn, you guys got PlayStation five. That's
Speaker 1: pretty sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I don't want to be dead guy, but
Speaker 2: I think the well the public perception of America around
Speaker 2: the world went to it's really really worse than it
Speaker 2: was maybe like ten twenty years ago. I feel like
Speaker 2: nobody is really thinking about America as a dream country anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: shoot on you, but it's just how it feels like
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: No, you're not you ain't you ain't you ain't saying
Speaker 1: nothing that's blowing anyone's mind. Yeah, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: we had like whatever I was watching some I was
Speaker 1: watching some YouTube video that's like it depends on what
Speaker 1: your bar is, you know. I mean, we're we're living
Speaker 1: pretty fucking good compared to like, you know, there's plenty
Speaker 1: of there's plenty of countries that you can look at
Speaker 1: and say that we're living pretty good. Compared to them.
Speaker 1: But I don't know who's living the best. I've no,
Speaker 1: I've been to.
Speaker 2: You know the best. Yeah, definitely the Nordic countries. No,
Speaker 2: the Nordic countries like three, Sweden, uh, Norway, Norway. I
Speaker 2: think they have like they I think, Davis, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Denmark's doing pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah den Mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how come everyone's not like, Oh I gotta moved,
Speaker 1: I gotta go to Denmark.
Speaker 2: Well everyone is. They have immigrant problems. Everybody is doing it.
Speaker 2: You know that was That's not like the original idea,
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, well, I just have.
Speaker 2: To say I am I really enjoyed this conversation. I
Speaker 2: really wanted to talk to about everything Irish. I'm so
Speaker 2: I'm so happy.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy I got This was great. This was
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed having this conversation. I feel like it was.
Speaker 1: We learned a lot about we learned about we got meta,
Speaker 1: we learned about Saint Louis, we talked about life. This
Speaker 1: is great. This was one for the books. This is
Speaker 1: one for the books. Obi. You said your name was yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you remember my name? That's crazy?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I well, I forgot it over the
Speaker 1: course of an hour and then I remembered it. Okay, Obi,
Speaker 1: send me a fucking Instagram message with all your like
Speaker 1: you're where you want me to, where you want me
Speaker 1: to attempt to send this hoodie and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'll do my best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you very much, bro.
Speaker 1: Good luck. I still think, uh, I think all right,
Speaker 1: whether or not you will take the cop I think
Speaker 1: you are doing. I think what I think. The life
Speaker 1: you are living is impressive, going to school and working
Speaker 1: and being a dad. It's hard. It's not easy being
Speaker 1: a young dad. It's not easy for your partner, girlfriend, fiance, whatever, either.
Speaker 1: So good luck to you guys, uh, and I will
Speaker 1: I will see you around the universe. Obi. Is there
Speaker 1: anything else?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: I say to the people that you before we go,
Speaker 1: just two.
Speaker 2: Things, one for you, one for the audience for you
Speaker 2: we have. Actually, I hope you will visit Chica public
Speaker 2: sometimes because I know you were here, but I don't
Speaker 2: think on your trip. You've tried our spin off on coke.
Speaker 2: It's called Cofola, and I think it's better than coke,
Speaker 2: so you should definitely try it. You can even get
Speaker 2: it draft in like the pups. Uh. So imagine draft
Speaker 2: Coca cola. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about you saying this is that
Speaker 1: is here sing that there's a drink that's better than
Speaker 1: coca cola is something that I would fly to another
Speaker 1: country to experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think, but it's better when you get
Speaker 2: to the draft in a pub. You need to get
Speaker 2: the draft in pubs from like the better. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Wait they have they have coca cola. They have what
Speaker 1: is it called again, cofola?
Speaker 2: Okayo f or how they said O l.
Speaker 1: A And there are pubs are these like like side
Speaker 1: there there's a and you can go to a pub
Speaker 1: and you can get this on draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in most pubs you can, and like I would say,
Speaker 2: like seventy eighty percent pubs, you can get it in
Speaker 2: Prague definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do they have a cherry version, No, we are not.
Speaker 2: You know, Americans have a lot of different types of
Speaker 2: maybe coke and stuff, but we have just Cofola original
Speaker 2: on draft. We have versions in mals but bottled, but
Speaker 2: just get the draft one. I'm swear it's the best.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about do they have do they have diet version?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: They have one version, the original.
Speaker 1: I literally I literally I I might actually do this someday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope. And if you do, you know how
Speaker 2: everybody says, hit me up and maybe I can transfer
Speaker 2: it to you in Prague when you do your show.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, good.
Speaker 2: I know my English is not the best, but maybe
Speaker 2: I can get you someone better than me.
Speaker 1: Actually, that's ob obi Obi. I want you to know something.
Speaker 1: If I thought your English was shitty, I would have
Speaker 1: hung up on you an hour and a half ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, you had something you wanted to say to
Speaker 1: the audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to the audience. Treat everybody how you want to
Speaker 2: be treated yourself.
Speaker 1: Beautiful?
Speaker 2: Thank you, O be good luck, lobb you all, bye bye.
Speaker 1: That was a night. That was a meaty call. That
Speaker 1: was a meaty call. That was good. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that very much. We that we that spanned
Speaker 1: a large let's spanned a long time. That was a
Speaker 1: good phone call. Shout out to Obi, shout out to
Speaker 1: the Czech Republic. It's interesting hearing other people's perceptions of
Speaker 1: America and like, you know, I don't know what life
Speaker 1: is like in uh other countries and shit, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good call. Do I don't know if I
Speaker 1: have anything else to say. I feel like we I
Speaker 1: feel like we left that one all out. I feel
Speaker 1: like we let that all out on the table.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 1: I have one other thing to say, which is that
Speaker 1: you know, this is a fun fact that the area
Speaker 1: code he called from there was a check area code.
Speaker 1: Guess what the check area code is?
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: I'm not even you know what. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: say it. I'm not gonna say it on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you, guys, just if you want,
Speaker 1: if you want to be if you want to if
Speaker 1: you want to look at you, if you want to
Speaker 1: look at your phone or computer and say nice, go
Speaker 1: ahead and search up what the country code is for
Speaker 1: the Czech Republic. And that's all I'll say. Thank you
Speaker 1: for listening. Be Get goes on the line, taking your
Speaker 1: phone calls every night.
Speaker 5: Never peak, cant goes doing the ride.
Speaker 1: He's teaching you his housing, your life, but he's not
Speaker 1: really an expert.