1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Bold reference and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Clay 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: It starts now. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: We made a pilgrimage to Poppy Steak last night. Yes, 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Clay won his bet, and I'm a man who pays 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: his debts, pays his bets, and so we went for 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: the most outrageous steak we could possibly find. It was 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: actually delicious. And if you want to see the video, 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: it's already over a million views on on on Twitter. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: But go to clayanbuck dot com. We've got the video. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. It trusts me'll you'll giggle, 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: you'll laugh, You'll have some fun with it. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: I want to give Buck credit if you have not 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: seen the video. Buck paid off his bet that Joe 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: Biden was going to be the nominee. 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 4: I said he wasn't. 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: As you well know, Buck island covered in It's now 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: Atlantis left for the ages. 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm still angry because I did say that it would 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: be Kamala if not Joe, but I did not work 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: that in to the bet officially in the fine print. 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: So you pay the price, my friend. The price was paid. 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 4: Last night. 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: We went out to a fabulous dinner in Miami Beach, 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: if you have seen the video, you are one of 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 3: Now we can say millions of people who have watched 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: that video. 28 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: It is. 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: It's amazing how many people credit to Buck's lovely wife Carrie, 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: who took that video. And you can see that we 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: probably found a way to order a steak in the 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: most ostentatious manner imaginable anywhere in the country. Poppy steak 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: down here. I guarantee you that it will put a 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: smile on your face. It's up at Clay and Buck. 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: You can go on x slash Twitter find at Clay Travis, 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: at Buck Sexton if you want to see that and 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: you want to have a laugh at the show that 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: they put on when they bring out the steak. Trust me, 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: it is quite the scene and I encourage you all 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: to check it out. But credit to Buck for paying 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: his debts associated with the stake. 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: Sunday Hay with Clay and Buck. 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, I watched Am I Racist just a few 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: days ago and really enjoyed it. 45 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: Watch it with my wife Carrie. 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Thought it was really fun and we love to see 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: people from our side of just the view of life, 48 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: if you will, not just the right, but just people 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: that see the world through rationalize to make creative content. 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: And Matt Walsh is with us now. He is from 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: the Daily Wire, the Matt wallsh Show. His movie Am 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: I Racist? 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: Is in theaters. 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: It is super funny and Matt did a great job. Matt, 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time for us. Let's start with 56 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm noticing a trend, Matt, which is everyone that I 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: speak to or see who has seen the movie thinks 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: it's really well done, really clever, really funny. And yet 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: so the Rotten Tomatoes for the fans or for the audience, 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: I should say, very strong, but I feel like you're 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: getting a little frozen out by some of the mainstream critics. 62 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: What's going on? 63 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, very completely frozen out in fact. 64 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 5: So as it stands right now, we did just finally 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 5: get an official Rotten Tomatoes Tomato rating because we got 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 5: to ten reviews from the critics, and it's right now 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: it's good. 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: I think we're sitting at eighty percent. But those are 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: all independent. 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: Reviewers who we really appreciate the fact that they reviewed 71 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 5: the film. We have yet to have a single critic 72 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: film critic from a mainstream publication review the film, which 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 5: I think is, if not unprecedented. It certainly is extremely 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: uncommon that you would have a top five theatrically widely 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 5: released film that is not reviewed at all by any 76 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 5: mainstream publication even a week after release. I can't think 77 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: of another example of this happening. 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean, is it just there, Matt, Is it that 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: they're they're they're too sorry, just they're too scared to 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: even You would think that they could just review it 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and trash it, right, like that's what the commis would 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: usually do. But are they just too scared to even 83 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: say anything about it or bring attention to it. 84 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 5: I think that's it, because you're right, we're very used 85 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 5: to seeing the Rotten Tomatoes thing, where it's like a 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 5: thirty five percent critics score and a ninety percent audience score. 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: That's usually what they do. 88 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 5: They just go in and trash the film because it's 89 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 5: made by someone they don't like. In this case, they 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 5: won't even do that, and so I can only assume 91 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 5: it's because they don't want to acknowledge. You know, we 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: are we are exposing the DEI grift, and if they 93 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 5: acknowledge the film, they're acknowledging sort of that exposure, and 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 5: they don't want to do that. And also I'm very biased, 95 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 5: of course, but I think it's a good movie, and 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 5: it's gonna be harder for them to pretend that it's 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 5: just a total piece of garbage. You'll have to they'll 98 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 5: have to give it, like I think they have to 99 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 5: give a sum credit if they review it, and they 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 5: don't want to do that because they're worried that their 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 5: audience will rip them to shreds if they don't rip 102 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 5: us to shreds. 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: So that's kind of a buying that they're in. 104 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: I guess Matt appreciate you coming on. This is Clay 105 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: your seat mate on the most recent flight I bet 106 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: you took to La Matt and I ended up sitting 107 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: side by side coming back to Nashville. So and on Monday, 108 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: I went to go see this last week. And here's 109 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: the best compliment I can give for people who have 110 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: not seen the movie. Am I racist that Matt Walsh 111 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: made your performance? And I'm not even trying to pump 112 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: you up here. As I was watching it, it felt 113 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: both Sasha Baron Cohen and Larry David esque in that 114 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: there was a lot of cringe humor right, which would 115 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: be very common with Larry David, But also in the 116 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: same way, back when the Barrat movies were doing their heyday, 117 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: you allowed people to expose themselves merely by almost acting 118 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 3: as a mirror to reflect them. I'm curious when you 119 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: were making the movie, did you think about either of 120 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: those guys as people who had done some thing that 121 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: you were similarly trying to do? Part one, Part two? 122 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: How do you keep a straight face for all this? 123 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: Were there elements of this movie where you broke down 124 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: and started to laugh? Is there an out take version? 125 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: Or you just uniquely skilled that deadpan comedy. 126 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: And I appreciate that. Yeah, I appreciate it. 127 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 5: Sitting next to you on the plane, You're the first 128 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 5: person in twenty years I've sat next to on a 129 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: plane who was reading a physical newspaper. So that was 130 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: that was an interesting experience, which I respect a lot, by. 131 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: The way, and you know, yes we did. 132 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 5: I always appreciate the comparisons to Borat Larry David. 133 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: I mean, the these are comic geniuses. 134 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 5: So even if they are far to the left and 135 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 5: we don't agree politically at all, but they're using a 136 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: style of humor a Sasher Baron calling in particular, using 137 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 5: a style of comedy that to this point the right 138 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 5: has not made use of. And but the thing is 139 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 5: that the left isn't really using it either. I mean, 140 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 5: you could go back, yeah, you go back to Borat 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: the first one, the only funny one. Even early John 142 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 5: Stewart Daily showed a lot of this kind of thing, 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: and they've really gotten away from it too. 144 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: So I think it sort of opens up. 145 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 5: There's a wide open market here to come in, and 146 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 5: that's what we're trying to do in terms of maintaining 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 5: the dead pan. The honest truth is that I wasn't 148 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 5: very tempted to laugh in the moment, because in the moment, 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 5: in real time, when you're in the room with these people, 150 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 5: they are so aggressively unpleasant and quite ugly in the 151 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: way that they approach life and the things that they're saying, 152 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: that the temptation is less to laugh and more to 153 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 5: like yell at them and start arguing with them, which 154 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: was very much my instinct that I had to hold 155 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 5: back on that. 156 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: We're speaking of Matt Walsh. He has the movie Am 157 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: I Racist? 158 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: Out now. 159 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: Clay and I have both seen it highly recommend that 160 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: you will enjoy it, and I do Matt, if I may, 161 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: you know you were talking about critics before. I have 162 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: one one point of criticism that I wanted to address 163 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: with you directly here on the show, and it's when 164 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: you made the decision to go undercover. 165 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: And my wife and I looked at each other. We 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: had the same thought, Matt. 167 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: If you shaved your beard, you could become Biden's White 168 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: House Press secretary, like nobody would know who Matt Walsh 169 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: is Son's beard. Was there a consideration for going full 170 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: deep cover here of shaving the beard or is that 171 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: just like Samson's hair, the temple falls around you. You 172 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: can't do it because. 173 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: The man bun. 174 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you still look like Matt Walsh with the 175 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: man bun, but without that beard. 176 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: Dude, I don't know. I don't think. I don't think 177 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: anybody would know we did. 178 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: We sat around in a conference room having a long 179 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: conversation about this is what my job entails, sitting around 180 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 5: the conference room having a very serious professional dialogue about 181 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 5: what costume I should wear. And it was suggested by 182 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: multiple people in the room that hey, if I just 183 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,479 Speaker 5: shaved the beard, but that I shut that down immediately, 184 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 5: that's awf the that I'm willing to do a lot 185 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: of things to expose the left. 186 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: I think I've shown that I draw the line there. 187 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: I cannot do that, and I cannot force you know what, 188 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 5: I can't force my wife and children to live with 189 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: me beardless. They wouldn't allow me to do it. They 190 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 5: would run in terror if I walk in the home 191 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: without a beard. So I just I can't. I couldn't 192 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 5: do it. I couldn't do it. 193 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: Matt. 194 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: Any movie or book or anything that you try to make, 195 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: where you're creating something you're not really sure how it's 196 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: going to turn out. In the process of being in 197 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: the middle of it, that that creative spark, however you 198 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 3: want to describe it, Sometimes it comes through and you're like, man, 199 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: this book's gonna come out perfectly. I'm curious. The movie 200 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: is fantastic. Again, I would encourage people to go watch it. 201 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: It's really funny, and it's on a lot of theaters 202 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: out there. Right now we should have mentioned so you 203 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: can go see it in your state, your communities, you 204 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: can look it up. At what point, as you're making 205 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: the movie, did you think to yourself, Okay, we've got 206 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: something here. I think this is going to be really good. 207 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: Was there a moment, was there a scene, Was there 208 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: something that worked better than you anticipated? When was that 209 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: moment for you? In the midst of the making of 210 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: this movie. 211 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: I can tell you exactly where that moment was. 212 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 5: It was Robin di Angelo, the Robin d Angelo scene, 213 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 5: and which the spoilers are everywhere now anyway, so there's 214 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 5: no point in hiding the fact that we you know, 215 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 5: we did get Robin d Angelo, and we convinced her 216 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 5: to pay reparations to my black producer on camera, among 217 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 5: other exercises that we had her do with me. And 218 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 5: when we got that we actually did that somewhat early 219 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: on in filming, and after we got that scene, we 220 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: knew that, okay, we have a movie here. I mean, 221 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 5: even if we get nothing else, this alone justifies the 222 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 5: existence of the film. And fortunately we got a lot 223 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 5: more than that, but that was certainly that was the 224 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: moment we all looked at each other and said, all right, 225 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 5: I guess we have a movie. 226 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: I actually got to tell you something, Matt. I break 227 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: with some of the consensus here because my favorite part 228 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: of the movie is actually the beginning, like the beginning 229 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: of the movie, when you're at the when you're having 230 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: like the DEI seminar and that lady and the guy 231 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: gets mad at you and you said you didn't consent 232 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: to be touched. 233 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: That's that's one of my favorite parts. 234 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: But also the fact that they call the police on you, Well, 235 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: on what basis were they calling the police on you? 236 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 5: Well, apparently I made them feel unsafe. You hear the 237 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 5: girl in that scene, the woman say that she doesn't 238 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 5: feel safe, which is really funny because not only was 239 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 5: I not being aggressive or hostile, but I was actually 240 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 5: my sin in that group was I was too eager 241 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 5: a participant. I was so eager to be a part 242 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 5: of this and just starting my journey that and yet 243 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 5: still they somehow felt they felt unsafe. 244 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: But by the way, I actually are. 245 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: My own personal favorite scene in the movie is that 246 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: the opening workshop scene. Maybe it's just, you know, the 247 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 5: opportunity to antagonize those people for two hours was just 248 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of fun. 249 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: So I really liked that scene. 250 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: I also liked it, and again we're given some spoilers talking 251 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: to Matt Walsh the movies, Am I racist? The local 252 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: news segment, the Good Morning Utah or whatever it was, 253 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I really lost it on that they didn't 254 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: do like the basic amount of research. But I'm just 255 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: curious on the making, how many local news broadcasts did 256 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 3: you guys have to reach out to to get the 257 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: interviews that you did and were there, because I also 258 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 3: think it's really funny if you happened to be a 259 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: Daily Wire fan or a Matt Walsh fan and Good 260 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Morning Utah, whatever the heck it was was on. Did 261 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: anybody clip those and share them? Did you see it 262 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: get like yourself getting tagged. I'm really kind of fascinated 263 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: how that happened because it's kind of a giveaway of 264 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: what's going on potentially. Did people just never know that 265 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: that happened, or were you concerned that that might get 266 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: out virally and help kind of make it clear what 267 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: you were doing. I'm curious how that segment of the 268 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: movie went. 269 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, we assumed, we assumed when we did that it 270 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 5: would be out that the next day it's going to 271 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 5: be all over Twitter. So we just went into it 272 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: with that assumption, and I was shocked that that didn't happen. 273 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I got a few emails from people who 274 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 5: happened to be watching these various news segments saying got 275 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 5: some funny emails like was that I'm pretty sure I 276 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 5: just saw you in a man bun on my local news, 277 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 5: But was that actually you? And I just ignored the emails, 278 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 5: so I don't. I don't know why that didn't end 279 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 5: up on the internet. I guess it's providential. But the 280 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: truth is that of all the things we did, that 281 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 5: was the easiest to set up. I mean, these local 282 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 5: news channels did like zero due diligence. We didn't even 283 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 5: give them my last name. We just said that like, 284 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 5: I'm Matt, the DEI guy or whatever, and that was 285 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 5: the ancher to me that way. They didn't even ask 286 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 5: my last name at any point, which was pretty reminded. 287 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: Did the anchors figure it out like by the end 288 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: or are they still like Matt? That was great, like 289 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: thanks for decentering our whiteness. 290 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 5: I think that the ones in Utah, the ones where 291 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: I was in person, I could tell because that was 292 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 5: a longer secon and obviously. 293 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: Then what appears in the movie. 294 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 5: And by the end of that conversation they were kind 295 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: of looking at each other like this is something's not 296 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 5: right here. But they had to, you know, they were 297 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 5: professionals about it. I'll give them that. They just went with it, 298 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 5: and then I finished my interview and I left. 299 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: I put by the way. 300 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 5: One of the ways I got in there is I 301 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 5: was wearing a COVID mask behind the scenes, and I 302 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: wore that right until the cameras came on, so that 303 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 5: if they did recognize me, it would happen on camera. 304 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: So I didn't do that to disguise myself. 305 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 5: I only did it for safety because I was really 306 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: concerned about my safety and everyone else is. 307 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: Of course, I want to give you guys credit at 308 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: the Daily Wire because I was in Lady Ballers. I 309 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: have a small role this movie now too. But I've 310 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: talked with a lot of the guys and gals that 311 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: work over there, and I think many people out there 312 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: listening to us right now, this is really going to register. 313 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: With them too. 314 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: Starting at about twoenty ten, movies just stopped being funny. 315 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: There has not been a real I mean, there were 316 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: tons in the early two thousand. You can go back 317 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: and watch whatever you think of the politics, Super Bad. 318 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 6: Old School. 319 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: You know, we can run through a long list of 320 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: forty year old virgin of movies that were made that 321 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: were actually very funny, everybody could go and watch and 322 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: laugh at them, and then they just stopped. And I'm 323 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: curious what you would attribute that to. But to your point, 324 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: it creates a huge marketplace for opportunity, right for actually 325 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: movies that just want to make people laugh. 326 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. 327 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: It's fascinating to me just as a matter of kind 328 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 5: of history, that it seems there's a real cutoff point 329 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 5: about twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen is the last time 330 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 5: you see real comedies from Hollywood, and then it really, 331 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 5: as you said, it's stopped for about ten years. I 332 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: don't know what exactly the attribute to that too. I 333 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: think that you know, Trump came on the scene a 334 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: couple of years after that, and that helped to kill 335 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: comedy from the left. And one of the reasons is 336 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 5: that they're so angry and they considered Trump to be 337 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: such an existential threat that it was almost like, well, 338 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: we can't do common anymore. 339 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: It's not serious enough. 340 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: Political satire in particular from the left, I think dropped 341 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 5: off after that because it wasn't serious enough. 342 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: And anytime they talk about Trump, they have to. 343 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: Seriously convey that he's a threat to democracy and all 344 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: this nonsense, and so they started to take themselves way 345 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 5: too seriously, and in an odd sort of way, they 346 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: started to take their opponents too seriously too. And I 347 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 5: think that that is what has created this this vacuum 348 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 5: that you know, the Babylon Bee has been doing it 349 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 5: for a while, but I think there's a lot more 350 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: we could be doing on the right to come in 351 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 5: and sort of fill that vacuum, because if they don't 352 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: want to be funny, like hey, it's let's do it. 353 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: Because comedy is a it is a it's a very 354 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 5: disarming thing. It's like kind of a universal language. If 355 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: you can make people laugh, then you made them laugh. 356 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 5: And and whether you're leftist or conservative, it's a way 357 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: to kind of convey a message to to everybody. 358 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: The movie is am I Racist. You should go check 359 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: it out. It's right wide release in theaters. People can 360 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: just look on their localistings. 361 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 5: Absolutely or you can go to Amiracist dot com to 362 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 5: get tickets. 363 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: Matt, great work man, Clynn, I really enjoyed it. Thanks 364 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. 365 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, appreciate it. Sundays with Clay and. 366 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: Buck, we have Carol Markowitz and Mary Catherine Ham joining 367 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: us now to talk about the launch of their new podcast, 368 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: which they're hosting together Normally and my understanding, ladies, and 369 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: I'll just because we're on radio, I'll try to clarify. 370 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: We'll start with you Carol. We'll get to you Mary 371 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 4: in a second. 372 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: My understanding is you're going to talk about stuff, it's 373 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: not just politics, and a lot of the moms listening 374 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: across America will want to hear what you gots have 375 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: to say. 376 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 6: You know, we're not exclusive to moms. Dads are welcome, 377 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 6: you know, clay S best release The Childless Cat people 378 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 6: are welcome. Everyone's welcome to our Normally podcast. It's going 379 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 6: to be normal conversation from normal people from normal people, and. 380 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: That's our goal there, I think is super important, and 381 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: we're excited to have this debut tomorrow as part of 382 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 3: the Clay and Buck podcast network. Mary Katherine Ham, I'll 383 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: bring you in and I would encourage you guys to 384 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: follow Carol Markowitz and Mary Katherine Ham on social media 385 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: because I think you guys are really going to enjoy 386 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: these conversations. I've talked with both of you guys, and 387 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: I feel like the mom perspective is actually underrepresented in 388 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: terms of just sort of the common sense universe. I 389 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: think Megan Kelly has done a good job speaking to 390 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: moms out there, and to Carroll's point, when to talk 391 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 3: to you guys are talking to everybody. But as I 392 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: think collectively the moms of seven kids, I think I 393 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: got that right. You can correct me if I'm wrong 394 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: on the on the numbers there, what do you think 395 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: is not being shared and what audience do you think 396 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: is not really being reflected in media? 397 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: Do you buy into to that my thesis there? 398 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that, look, we are different from a 399 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 7: lot of political elites, particularly those who are elected to 400 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 7: office national office, and that we like you know, buy 401 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 7: groceries regularly and drive our kids around to activities and 402 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 7: feel the pain of having to make those decisions in 403 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 7: this time of inflation. And I feel like there are 404 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 7: a lot of people who are not as connected to that. 405 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 7: And I joke that we're sort of normy adjacent because 406 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 7: we're not exactly normal, because we pay a lot of 407 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 7: attention to the news, but we can be useful to 408 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 7: people who are normy because we can filter all that 409 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 7: news and talk about it normally, which is the idea. 410 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 7: But I think, look, the inflation problems, the economy, immigration 411 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 7: and safety issues. 412 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 8: These are all things that moms, suburban women care about. 413 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: Right. 414 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 7: It's a really important demo, and there is some attempt 415 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 7: to speak to it. Child Care costs is another thing. 416 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 7: But I think people get so bogged down in the 417 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 7: regular politics of the day and are not able to 418 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 7: just have a conversation with otherwise normy moms about things 419 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 7: that are affecting their lives. So we hope that we 420 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 7: can do that and sort of filter out some of 421 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 7: the heightened emotion that many cable news outlets bring to 422 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 7: the to the table, which I had to deal with 423 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 7: when I was at CNN, and just like, let's actually 424 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 7: examine these. 425 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 4: Things, you know, Carol. 426 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Over the weekend I was seeing I saw a few 427 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: different friends here in South Florida, and and it's funny 428 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: because you know, you know what they all are talking about, 429 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: not so much the election. They're all talking about how. 430 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 4: Puff daddy he diddy. 431 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: Sean Combe is in prison and being held, you know, 432 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: without bail until he's until his trial. And I can't 433 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: even really say on the radio, like what's in all 434 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: of these articles because of some of the material and 435 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: stuff that they have found, But do you find that 436 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: this here's the sort of the thesis that was being brought 437 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: up to me speaking of like what more normal folks 438 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: are in considered in other than just the polls, is 439 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: that Sean Combs isn't just a guy who made a 440 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: lot of money in the music industry. He was celebrated 441 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: by name somebody who's really big and powerful in the 442 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: culture and in pop politics in this country. And yet 443 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: he had been arrested or almost arrested, I should say 444 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: almost arrested, but alleged to have been involved in crimes many, 445 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: many times. 446 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: Over the years. 447 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: What does this say about the culture that this guy 448 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: was able to get away with what he got away 449 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: with as long as he did, And now all of 450 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, everyone's like, oh, I've never seen him before. 451 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: He was like sitting at Anna Winter's table at the 452 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: met gala. 453 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: For people who watch this stuff. 454 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, it's funny because Mary Catherine and I talk 455 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 6: about this, how when a scandal breaks like Harvey Weinstein, 456 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 6: everyone's like, oh, everybody knew, everybody knew, And this time 457 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 6: it's kind of like, oh, no, I had no idea 458 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 6: about p Diddy, that this is new information you have 459 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 6: presented me with. 460 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 8: It's an interesting. 461 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 6: Story because he has been so in the limelight for 462 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 6: so long. I mean, I see him as the guy 463 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 6: who ruined many Biggie Smalls albums by inserting his into 464 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 6: all of his songs. 465 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 8: He is somebody who put you know, a lot. 466 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: Of young rappers on the map. Basically, he has a 467 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 6: lot of people who owe him, so it's interesting to 468 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 6: watch his decline. Of course, you also mentioned or in 469 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 6: passing with the story of the gun and the club 470 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 6: with Jennifer Lopez and his passenger See and then another 471 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 6: whapper Shine went away for that crime, and the rumor 472 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 6: always was that he did he paid him a million 473 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 6: dollars for it. All of this kind of stuff has 474 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 6: been around for a long time, so it's interesting to 475 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 6: watch him actually get kind of pegged. 476 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: On this. 477 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: Interesting choice of words. 478 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: Mary Catherine Buck and I were talking last night at 479 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: dinner that based on what happened to Epstein, the puff 480 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: Daddy story, p Diddy, whatever you want to call him, 481 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 3: it feels very epstein esque and whatever you think, the 482 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: idea that Epstein in an area that's supposed to be 483 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: super secure, the video is not running. The security guard 484 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: falls asleep, suddenly he kills himself. There were a lot 485 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: of allegations about video and who was involved. It seems 486 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: like there are potentially a ton of celebrities involved. Oh 487 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: they're not giving Didty a bail? Do you see an 488 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 3: overlap here potentially with Epstein and Ditty in terms of 489 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: maybe what happened to Epstein, but also the celebrity involvement 490 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: and maybe some different blackmail involved also. I mean, I 491 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: see these stories as very much connected. 492 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 7: One overlap is that I'm afraid to read the indictment 493 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 7: because it sounds so disgusting, So I gotta. 494 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 8: Steal myself for that. 495 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: Two. 496 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, my smart friend Emily's Natti, also a great mom 497 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 7: of three, called it Epstein for millennials because we know 498 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 7: all these figures. And one thing on the mom front 499 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 7: that strikes me about all these stories is particularly with 500 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 7: celebrities and celebrity kids, wonder Can singers. 501 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: And the like. 502 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 8: You know, Usher was friends with Diddy at thirteen. 503 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 7: Bieber's in there doing stuff with him very young, and 504 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 7: that worries me and it makes me think for my front, 505 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 7: talking to my kids about like why can't we be 506 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 7: on YouTube? And it's like, well, this is why you 507 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 7: will never have a path to any mogul's house ever 508 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 7: while you are in my care And I think that's 509 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 7: something that lights up for people in this demographic when 510 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 7: you look at these types of stories. 511 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 8: And to Carol's point, one. 512 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 7: Of the things we'd like to talk about on the 513 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 7: podcast is things that everyone did know that the media 514 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 7: ignores for two years until they can safely tell the 515 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 7: story later. 516 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 8: That is messed up to me. It's something that normal people. 517 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 7: Clock early, but the elites will not sort of let 518 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 7: it be talked about, and I think that's wrong. 519 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: Speaking to Carol Markwitz and Mary Catherine Ham their new podcast, normally, 520 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: when's the first episode Guys Tomorrow comes out tomorrow? Right now, 521 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: So now is a great time to subscribe to the 522 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: clay In Book podcast network. We all also have a 523 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: John Parnell and Lisa Booth and other friends of ours 524 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: who are doing great shows. But this normally show getting 525 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of hype online. Some people 526 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: are saying like probably going to be amazing, probably gonna 527 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: set download records, and and Caeryl, I feel like this 528 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: is also part of a of a of a broader conversation, 529 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: which is I understand that people can say like, oh, like, 530 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: don't subscribe to Netflix and don't engage in the culture. 531 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 4: Uh, if it's going to be left wing. 532 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: And all this other stuff, But there also needs to 533 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: be a culture for normal people, right. It can't just 534 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: be walling yourself off from whether it's like the Sean 535 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: Combs P. 536 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 4: Diddy stuff of. 537 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: The world that's in the news cycle and you know, 538 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: not wanting to be you know, have that enter your consciousness. 539 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: But also we have to create content of our own. 540 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 541 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: You know. 542 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 6: Again, this is not to flatter you guys, but I 543 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 6: think that you guys do this so well where you 544 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 6: speak to normal people and they feel like they know you, 545 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 6: and they feel like you guys are friends, and you're 546 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 6: not screaming at them, we're saying crazy things. Where now 547 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 6: we're going to take a page out of that book 548 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 6: and hopefully do the same on normally for you know, 549 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 6: a similar audience. So I love what you guys do, 550 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 6: and I think that that is exactly right. We need 551 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 6: to engage people on the right in culture, and we 552 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 6: need to have conversations, and we need to produce content, 553 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 6: and we need to do all of that and not 554 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 6: just leave them kind of hanging and say, you know, 555 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 6: boycott this and boycott that. 556 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: Mary Catherine, I'm going down to Tuscaloosa, Alabama, speaking of 557 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: normally normally to watch your Georgia Bulldogs play against Alabama. 558 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 3: I want to get your take on what you expect 559 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 3: to happen in the game. But my thesis here, and 560 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: I may be completely wrong. We'll see whether I'm right 561 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: or wrong, is that college football fans, football fans in general, 562 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: loom extra large in the battleground states. Your state of 563 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: Georgia where you are right now, North Carolina. Condolences to 564 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: North Carolina and NC State who both got abs obliterated, 565 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: and you still have to root for the Carolina Panthers. 566 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: But then you've got the big ten states, Wisconsin where 567 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: I just was a couple of weeks ago, Michigan, Pennsylvania. 568 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: What's going to happen Georgia, Bama. Do you buy into 569 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 4: me that. 570 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 3: Quote unquote the normal football fan of America, which I 571 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 3: think it's fair to say Kamala tried to appeal to 572 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: with Walls, is going to break Trump pretty significantly over Kamala. 573 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: I'm curious how you would break that down. 574 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 7: Look, I do think that's true, and I think this 575 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 7: is a gap in understanding for a lot of people 576 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 7: in Washington and a lot of people in sort of 577 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 7: elite media that don't understand how important football is to 578 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 7: so very many people in this country and have some 579 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 7: trouble relating to it. There are a few people who 580 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 7: maybe went to an SEC school and get it, but 581 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 7: they're few and far between. So I think you're right 582 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 7: that this is sort of a normy voter block right 583 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 7: of huge football fans. That's why Trump is going to 584 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 7: try to go to this game. 585 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 8: Is is he's still going? I think they were working. 586 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand he's going to be there. Yes, My 587 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: understanding is they're going to He's going to be in 588 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: the stadium. He's going to be at this game, which is, 589 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: for those of you who are not football fans, the 590 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 3: biggest college football game of the year so far. It's 591 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: going to be a massive earthquake like style game. Right, 592 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: So this is why he's going. 593 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 7: And as far as what's going to happen, I know 594 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 7: for sure that I will be extremely nervous, and I 595 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 7: don't know if I could handle being there in person. 596 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 7: I would gladly take a ticket, but I don't know 597 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 7: if I can handle it, I will be at my house, cozy, 598 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 7: trying to deal with my nerves. 599 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 8: We have a bit of a we have a great program. 600 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 7: Under Kirby Smart and a little bit of a mental 601 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 7: block for many years with taking on Alabama. Almost every 602 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 7: time we take them on, so I'm always concerned. 603 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Ladies laid out good luck to you with the podcast 604 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: coming out tomorrow. Normally I think you should normally be 605 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: listening to it. Check it out, Mary, Katherine Ham and 606 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz. Thanks ladies, thank you so much.