WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Hit The Road 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.439 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:11.360 The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Hit the Road Jack addition, 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:14.960 as we take you to Chicago for an extended preseason 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:18.320 road trip as the Bengals practice and then play against 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.560 the Chicago Bears. Coming up, I'll talk to first round 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.159 draft pick of Marius Mims about the pectoral injury that 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.280 has temporarily stalled his rookie season. Dave Lapham joins me 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.920 to discuss the latest training camp news and compare notes 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.839 about Thursday's joint practice with the Bears. And finally, it's 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.640 the latest edition of my five Questions interviews as we 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.280 get to know seventh round draft pick Dejon Anthony. 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I don't know 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.480 about you, but for my entire life I have loved 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.640 going through a drive through car wash. Mike's car Wash 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.319 in the Cincinnati area is the perfect example. It's the 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:37.480 whole experience, the water jets, the spinning brushes, the scrubbing 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.560 thingam of bobs that flop down on the windshield, the 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:45.520 undercarriage phase. It's almost like an amusement park ride without 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:50.800 the possibility of an upset stomach. Now let's get to football. 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.440 This is my fourteenth years the Bengals radio play by 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.640 play announcer, and in that time period, the team has 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.840 had some great rookies, but the two who have impressed 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.520 me the most in training camp are Joe Burrow and 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.840 a Marius Mims. We knew that Mims looked like an 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.920 offensive lineman built in a lab, but what we didn't 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.240 know is how coachable he is, how smart he is, 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.840 and how well he fits in with coaches and teammates. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.880 That's why it was so disappointing to learn after the 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:25.320 first preseason game that A Marius has a strained pectoral 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.440 muscle that is going to keep him out of action 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.200 for several weeks. Hopefully he'll be back in time for 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.240 the season opener on September eighth, A Marius sat down 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.880 with me to discuss the injury and the impressive weeks 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.760 of training camp that preceded it. All right, A Marius, 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.760 You've had a little time to process the pectoral strain 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.200 that's going to keep you out of action for a 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.160 few weeks. Are you bummed? Are you disappointed? What word 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.880 would you use to describe your emotions? Uh? 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:55.840 Yeah, I was definite saying I low disappoint it just 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.919 because I had auto momentualm you know, just going into 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.080 you know, the preseason games and you know what I'm saying, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.320 just sharpening my tool box every week, trying to you know, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.080 get better, and then just bombed a you know, an 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.799 injury halted that. But all I can do right now 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.240 is you know, rehab and you know, make sure my 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.720 mental is good and like I said, stick keep sticking 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.240 the trend Orlando and making sure, you know, I just 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.840 you know, my mom stays sharp with the playbook and everything, 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.520 and you know, hoping I can get back soon as possible. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.720 I watched every snap from that first preseason game. I'm 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.600 sure your standards are different from mine just watching it, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.680 but I didn't really see a bad one. How did 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:31.480 you feel you played? 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.359 Yeah, man, it's it's more like I said, I take 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.200 pride on myself, like like suffering, like my game and 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.400 the small stuff. You know, some people might think it's 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.040 a perfect game, but me after, I think it's an 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:43.800 okay game. I felt like that was an okay game 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.240 to me, just from like a technique standpoint and just 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.040 just like my standard. I know I can do better 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.600 because you know, that's just just hard on myself and 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:51.800 it's like you gotta be you know what I'm saying, 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.080 because I want to be a great I want to 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:54.880 be a great football player. So I just kind of 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.920 critique myself on the small things and you know, how 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.760 can I come back in next to the next day 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.280 and the next weekend, you know, not make those mistakes 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.000 and you know, how can I, you know, make my 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:03.960 technique more sharper. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.640 One of the things you learn as a rookie is 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.440 to communicate with the training staff and if you're feeling 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.720 a little something, tell them exactly what it is. So 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.160 they can advise you how to treat it. And it 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.640 sounds like you maybe tried to push through a little 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.400 pectorial strain that it maybe would have been wise to 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:20.039 take a day off. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.560 Yeah, I definitely would have. But like I said, you know, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.560 just a recking mistake by me. And you know, right 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.000 now that's a learning process and from now, you know, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.120 just like I said, just rehab hard. You know, try 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.040 to get back to one hundred percent as fast as possible. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.720 We just walked out of the locker room where your 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.880 locker is next to Orlando Brown Junior. I'm sure you're 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.440 trying to be a sponge around a veteran who's been 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.040 to the Pro Bowl four times. Is there anything specific 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.080 that you've learned already from Orlando that resonates with you? 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.279 Oh man, May Orlando will talk a lot, not even 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.880 about like football all the time, just about life. You know, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.480 you know, I said, things aren't gonna go my way 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.360 all the time. You know, just knowing that, you know, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.440 you know every day's not gonna be perfect, but you know, 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.840 just as you take there like a step forward each day, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.080 you know, and you know, trying to not make the 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.159 same thing like trying to make the same stake over again. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.479 So he's definitely He's definitely helped me out in a 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.280 lot of ways. And I appreciate Orlando for that. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.000 You've had an excellent camp and you've almost made it 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:19.080 look easy. I'm sure it's not. But do you feel 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.599 like things have gone about as smoothly as they could 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.400 up until the pectoral injury? 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:23.640 Uh? 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:24.640 Like I said, I have. 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.880 I said, I have like different expectations for myself and 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.520 like it's different than everybody else's eyes. But you know, 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.040 it's a lot of stuff I needed to work on, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.279 you know, just being a guy, you know, out of 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.360 college who didn't have as many reps as everybody else. 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.320 I wanted to take these practices and all that and 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.720 these preseason games to you know, make sure you know 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.719 I got over that hump, and I wanted like to 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.520 put that out of everybody's like out of everybody's brain, honestly. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.080 But like I said, and the reps that I did 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.640 get and the reps that I give in the future, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.000 it will definitely keep building because right now, like I said, 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.880 I'm just really mentally locking in on just like a 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.560 sign of the place, keeping my mental strongs. Right now, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.440 it's being easy time for like some people you know 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.360 who aren't mentally strong to just like you know, shut down. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.640 And that's one thing you know, I refuse to do, 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.960 you know, because I know my team's gonna count on 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:09.640 me when I come back, and you know, I'm just 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.440 trying to keep myself in the right handspace and just 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.120 like I said, stay stay physically ready, and you know, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.560 so keep my body in the shape so where I 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.000 can come back and I can perform at the top 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:20.960 of my my game. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.000 Honestly, football's a violent game. Injuries happen. I know you 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.560 had an ankle injury last year. What else have you 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.520 had in your lifetime that you've had to overcome? 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.960 It's crazy because I haven't had anything like like, I've 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:35.400 had a knee, and I had a knee in my 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.160 freshman year of arm of high school. And I had 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.880 an ankle in college. So that's not that's all I like, 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.760 that's all I had. And then I just this this recently, 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.360 a peck. That's all like the main the main things 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:46.839 I ever. 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.599 Had, So not much of an injury history. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.160 Nah, I don't know where that narrative came from, but 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:52.880 you know, I let people run with it. If they 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:53.240 want to. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.320 Does it annoy you that that's out there? 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.279 I don't matter, I don't, I don't really care. I know, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.280 I know, I know what I can do. I know 0:06:59.320 --> 0:06:59.919 what I'm gonna do. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.320 So Trent Brown was available to step back in and 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.839 take reps as the first team right tackle yesterday. He 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.280 looks like a guy that almost could roll out of 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.760 bed and block guys. How impressed have you been by him? 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.280 I knew he can do it. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.040 Like I said, I know, I know what kind of 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.040 player Trending is, no matter what, no matter what anybody 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.240 else says about them, no matter what anybody think about him, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.040 I know, I know what kind of player he is. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.680 I watch I watch transfilm like you won't. You won't 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.440 find that much bad fend that's out there on him. 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.400 And like I said, I mean, I'm Tom. Tom Ain't 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.080 know everybody take its competition, no competition. I'm literally trying 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.000 to learn from this guy. I'm trying to be I'm 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.720 trying to have a long career like him. So I'm 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.760 gonna I'm going I'm gonna stick to him on Orlando side, 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.360 no matter what eather, whether it's me starting or him starting. 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:42.640 So like I said, I'm glad. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:43.040 I'm glad. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.600 I'm glad I get to watch him every day in 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.840 practice and him like him and Orlando and practice and 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.280 just learn from those guys and get better. Like I said, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.160 I'm glad they're here. And like I said, they pushed 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.240 me and I pushed them, so we just pushing each other. 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.680 And like I said, all three of us together you 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.480 know it can help us win. So I'm thankful for 0:07:58.480 --> 0:07:59.360 both of them being here. 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.040 I ask offensive Cordner Dan Picture about you recently. I 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.000 may get the quote a little bit wrong, but he 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.400 said something like you've got the perfect blend of confidence 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:13.080 and humility, which is kind of a hard balance to find. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.320 Do you feel that that's a good description. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.640 Yeah, I think I think culture, like I said, I love, 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.800 I love co fit good people. But like I said, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.400 I just try to, you know, like stay confident because 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.640 this is a game of confidence. Like if you don't 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.320 have any self confidence in yourself in this game, you 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.800 will not last. And like I said, it just comes 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.320 from like taking reps over and over and over, agains 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.200 the same reps a thousand times the same thousand times time. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.320 That's how you get confidence in this league, Like I said, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.040 if you don't have that confidence, then you know, I mean, 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:43.679 it's good, it's gonna be it's gonna be a long 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.560 ride for you. So I just try to, you know, 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.080 I said, stick to guys like Trenton Orlando who've been 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.800 here and done that, and like I said, try to 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.200 model my game after them, mold my technique after them, 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.920 and you know, try to ask as many questions as possible, because, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:56.559 like I said, I'm new to it. I'm not familiar 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.120 with the game of the NFL yet. But like I said, 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.400 stick them to like too, those guy sides gonna help 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.040 me to become, you know, a master. Every one has 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:03.400 all said. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.880 And it's been really fun to watch you so far. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.480 Look forward to seeing you back on the field soon. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.840 Thanks for the time, Yes, I appreciate you. Now time 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.600 for some observations from Thursday's joint practice against the Bears. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.880 The weather was miserable. It rained pretty much throughout and 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.520 at times came down hard. The Bears do have an 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.960 indoor facility, but in one of these joint practices, two 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.080 fields are in constant use because the Bengals offense faced 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.559 the Bears defense on one field, while the Bears offense 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.320 faced the Bengals defense on the other Moving indoors where 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.720 there's only one field would have meant getting in half 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.000 of the work or practicing for more than four hours. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.480 So the two teams practiced in the rain, and Zach 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.680 Taylor said that was a good thing. It helps them 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:55.960 know what plays probably won't work under those conditions, and 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.720 there were plenty that didn't work for both teams. On Thursday, 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.160 Joe Burrow through a pair of red zone touchdown passes 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.440 to Trenton Irwin and another TD to mikea Sicki, but 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:09.280 he also threw three interceptions. Caleb Williams, the number one 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.559 overall pick in this year's draft, had his first pass 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.839 of the day picked off by Jermaine Pratt, but later 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.240 hooked up for red zone TD strikes to DJ Moore 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.839 and Keenan Allen. What you hope to avoid in joint 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:28.200 practices are injuries, and unfortunately two Bengals left the field 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:32.560 on carts with apparent knee injuries, running back Chris Evans 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:37.160 in offensive tackle Deontay Smith. The Bengals are running into 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:41.199 depth issues at tackle. Smith is now out, Amarus Mimms 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.440 has the pectoral strain and Trent Brown exited Thursday's practice 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:49.920 with lower back tightness. Since starters Orlando and Trent Brown 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.480 aren't expected to play on Saturday, the available tackles for 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.120 the preseason game are Cody Ford, who's played more guard 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.040 than tackle in his NFL career, Jackson Karmen, and two 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.160 undrafted players, Jackson Kirkland, who's had a good camp at guard, 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:10.880 and Devin Cochrane. Fingers crossed that they stay healthy on Saturday. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.840 For more on the joint practice, here's my broadcast partner, 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.959 Dave Lapham lab we are drying out after a rainy 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.040 day in Chicago and the Bengals joint practice against the 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.360 Chicago Bears. The setup for us was such that we 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.560 really could only focus on one side of the field. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:33.520 The defense was in action quite a distance from us, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.920 so we mostly watched the offense, and honestly, it was 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.600 a tough day. The ball was slick. Joe Burrow had 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.600 some difficulty on some of the longer throws. Outside the numbers, 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:44.839 there were a ton of drops. It might have been 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.720 double digit drops. It was difficult playing conditions, and the 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:49.959 Bears defense played well. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.720 They did. The Bears defense played well, and we heard 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.040 celebrations on the other field, and with their offense, Caleb 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.760 Williams making some plays. So you know, I think that 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.559 Chicago had a pretty decent day, it seemed like overall. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.720 But you know, Zach Hald talked about I'd like to 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.400 have a rainy practice, rainy workout. There's something to be 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.800 said for that. Remember the Cleveland game last year, how 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:17.800 brutal it was, and just did not handle the elements whatsoever, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.080 and so they got their wish. I mean, the hardest 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:26.000 part of the rain occurred in the critical parts of practice, 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.440 So it was it was a day to learn from 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.640 for sure. And everybody has to I mean handle in 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.839 the football is one thing. You have to make adjustments 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.560 with your footing, even as alignment. You have to kind 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.320 of put yourself over your feet a little bit more. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.240 You know, you have to basically make sure that your 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:50.319 balance is such that you know you're not It's difficult, 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.000 it is, it's difficult transition to make. So I think 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:58.120 everybody went through that process and and learned a lot today. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:02.880 And again I think, yeah, you name it, anything and 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.959 everything that could go wrong in a what condition did 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:11.000 including injuries, you know, and I mean with the injuries 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.839 because of the you know, the wet fields, but have 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.600 two offensive players card off the field, you know, with 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.199 air casts on their legs. So you're thinking, gosh, is 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.600 that stabilizing your knee as that are broken? What are 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.560 we looking at here? But you know, you lose Chris 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:31.040 Evans and you lose Deontay Smith, guys that we're fighting 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.360 for spots on the football team, if not that worst 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.040 case scenario practice squad. So it was a tough day 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.000 for a lot of reasons. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.719 And that is the risk of these joint practices. Obviously 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.319 you're trying to get good work against a different team, 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:49.319 but there is a little more contact and unfortunately, injuries 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:50.960 are probably more likely. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.280 Yeah, you're right, and I think they did get a 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.680 lot of good work and situational stuff, you know, second 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:03.040 and five, third and different distances, you know, third down, 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.920 if you convert, find if you don't, fourth down, two 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:10.240 minute drill, red zone, low red zone, you know, move 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.520 the ball from the thirty yard line. I mean, everything 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.679 and anything that you could think of going against another 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.400 team giving you different looks with different techniques, different personnel. 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.360 So you have to you know, you have to make 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.280 adjustments out there and that's all. That's all really good work, 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.640 you know. And the other thing is the entire scouting 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.240 department basically for the Bengals are up here looking at 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.400 the Bears players. The Bears personnal people looking at the 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.320 Bengals players. So it's you get a chance to show 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.520 people live what you're about another team and how you 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:44.400 hit umself on the field, your you know, your overall decorum, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.840 and you know body language and how you react with teammates, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.120 how coachable are you, all those kind of things. So, 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.560 I mean, there's there's good reasons for players to put 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.480 forth as much effort as they possibly can in days 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:58.880 like this, and. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.560 We shouldn't make it seem like it was all bad 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.600 for the offense. Trenton Irwin had a couple of touchdown catches, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.920 Mike Casecki had a TV catch, and they broke off 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.880 some really good runs. Zach Moss had a long run 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.560 and Chase Brown essentially went in untouched in the red zone. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:17.000 He did, and Jackson had a pretty good day making 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.640 making plays as well. So you're right, it's it's never 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.480 you know, like all one way in these in these 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.120 type of scenarios, but you know, there's good tape to 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:29.960 look at. There's no question about it. And I think 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.600 the I think the Bengals coaches are anxious to take 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.840 a look at it tonight and and see what see 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.520 what's what there? And it was it was a long day, Dan, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.240 I mean they were out there from one o'clock to 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.760 three twenty so and a good part of it was 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.480 dealing with the elements. Mother nature wasn't kind, so it 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.560 was it was taxing, you know, in a lot of ways. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.320 And again, honestly, I've been there when a guy goes down. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.760 I mean Deontay Smith went down, and I mean you 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.160 could just hear, you know, every emotion come up out 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.760 of them literally, and you know he's been injured a 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.480 lot during the course of his career, unfortunately, and probably frustration, pain, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.360 a bunch of things. And you know, it's sad listening 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.400 to him, you know, And then you know you have 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.080 to experience something like that as teammates. And now, okay, 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.040 let's go right back in huddle up here we go. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.920 You know, that makes it difficult too, when you lose 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.600 a couple of guys that you know, you respect and 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.960 trust and their teammates and they're going down with injury. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.200 I mean that makes it a tough part of the 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:29.840 day as well. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.280 And the Deontae Smith injury is significant with two preseason 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.160 games to go, because a Marius Mims is obviously out, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:41.400 they're not anticipating the starters playing, certainly in the next 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.280 game against the Bears, and I wouldn't think against the Colts. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.800 I guess maybe that could change. But now you've only 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.720 got so many backup tackles available on the roster. 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:54.760 Absolutely, and this is where you know, guys like Ford 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.680 the can can go out there. Kirkland is going to 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.840 have to, you know, make be abandoned the guard deal 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.840 and go out to tackle some and that was I mean, 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.160 he's like riding a bike for him. Played left tackle 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.560 at Washington and so yeah, I think it's time for 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.840 guys to step up and show, hey, I do have 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.800 position versatility. I do have the flexibility you're looking for. 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.639 You don't want it to be at the at the 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.000 cost of an injury to a teammate, but you're gonna 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.399 have to have other guys step up and show that 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.160 they can handle the extra work. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.520 Let's talk about some training camp news from the last 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.480 few days. Jeffrey Gunter announced his retirement. Apparently, he plans 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.159 to finish his college degree and move on to his 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.119 life's work. As Ball Brown used to say, a guy 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:44.200 that had moments in preseason games didn't have huge contributions 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.440 in regular season games. But again, he would have played 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.160 a lot in the preseason games. And now the defensive 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.000 ends are gonna have to be out there for some 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:52.640 more snaps. 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.399 Absolutely, and you know, I think he was going to 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.680 be practice squad worst case scenario. It wasn't like he 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.879 was gonna to be, you know, not part of the organization. 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.080 But again he's he's fighting a knee issue again, and 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.639 he seems to have that kind of a problem. I 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.800 think after a while it becomes wear and tearing the 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.399 mind and body. And at this point in time, he 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.960 wasn't into it mentally. He kind of was in funk 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.199 my understanding the last couple of weeks, and you know, 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.040 had made a decision, I'm gonna go get my degree, 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.960 and good for him. If you're not, if you're not 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.119 in the right frame of mind to play football, it 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.080 can be a brutal thing to do uh to your 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:39.120 mind and your body. So you know, will will he reconsider? 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.320 Who knows? But as of right now, he's made a 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.439 decision he thinks is the best for him in the 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:44.960 long run. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.520 Jake Browning has a rib injury. Doesn't sound like it's 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.080 too serious, But in the meantime, Logan Wilson's going to 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.240 be the starting quarterback in the second preseason game against 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.480 the Bears. Rocky Lombardi will see some action in that 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.600 game and probably the final game as well. You know, 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.000 Jake proved what he could do in the final seven 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.480 games of the year last year. But knowing that Joe 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.720 Burrow is going to get the bulk of the work 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.160 with the first team, I'm sure Jake would have loved 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.160 as much preseason action as he could have received. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.560 Yeah, and you wonder when did the injury occur. You know, 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.640 he probably is not satisfied about the performance he had 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.080 in that first preseason game. Was he fighting it there, 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.359 because you know, it's very possible that he was, and 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.640 it was sucking it up and wanting to get snaps 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.840 because they are precious and they are limited in terms 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.639 of how many times he will be I'm able to 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.280