1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Laviar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: up on this football recap Monday. We are back from 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: the long holiday weekend and we have got all sorts 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: of buzz around the world of college football. Lane Kiffin 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: on his way to LSU. But exactly how. 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: Did it go down? 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: According to him, it went way differently than maybe some 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: of the stories that are out there are reporting on. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: We're also going to have a conversation about what's taken 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: so long for Penn State to announce their next head coach. 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: We've got other news and notes from around college football, 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: including a report on the scene in ann Arbor from 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the game from Brady Quinn. We're going to catch up 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: with our guy Pete Prisco to talk some NFL and 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: we got the usual fun stuff. It's all yours. Coming 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: up next here, Two Pros and a cup of Joe 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: on a Monday, Fox Sports Radio. Oh yeah, we're back. 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: He's LeVar Arrington, that guy's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox. 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: You can find our thic tongue asses is always on 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: You speak for yourself. 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: You can find this on hundreds of affiliates all across 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: the country and is a reminder be sure to check 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: out our brand new YouTube channel for the show. Just 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: searched two pros FSR on YouTube. 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That's gonna be ten dollars. 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: Ten dollars for what that's ten dollars, and it might 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: be the quickest fine of the year. 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: What it might be the quickest one. 39 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: I thought we all agree on this SPT is in 40 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: session no gentleness. 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: It's the way you said. It's the way. 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle spring some track on him. 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: John know what. 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: I know what the reference was, but it's the way 45 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: you referenced it. In terms of what the conversation was 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: on the text message like that was. 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: That was a direct shot back at Q was. 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: It was not We're going to sprinkle some NFL like 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: like you love the NFL. 50 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: We know you love the NFL. 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: Bro, This is a peak behind the curtains. 52 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: Jonas gets very passive aggressive, and he likes to do 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 5: it once he gets on a mic. So it's fine 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: sensitive like you do about it looking for Friday. 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: You are the judge. Don't get too involved in the Q. 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: You're the you are the judge. 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm not getting involved. 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: That was passive aggressive. 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 5: As got so much college football to talk about, we 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 5: can't even focus on Jonas and all the shortcuts. 61 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair. 62 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: Let's get to book the appeal touring for Friday, all right. 63 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: Now, that's a game check right there. 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: You've done it too many times like that's you're getting 65 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: You're going to get suspended a game. 66 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: It's too too many unnecessary roughness penalties on you, Bro. 68 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I would like to hear a little behind the scenes. 69 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: If we're going behind the curtain, the scene, the sights, 70 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: the sounds of the game, which at least early on 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: seemed like it was going to be a game and 72 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: then it was a bit of an ass whooping in 73 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: the second half there, But in ann Arbor it looked 74 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: cold as balls. The stars were out. What was that 75 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: scenario and set up like there for this year's game 76 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: between Ohio State Michigan over the weekend, Brady. 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 5: I mean, it was incredible in the sense of just 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 5: I think the amount of hype that was there for 79 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: Michigan because of the recent. 80 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: Run of success when you've got guys. 81 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 5: Like Tom Brady and Charles Woodson, Derek Jeter there them on. 82 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: But there also was moral Ohio State fans in the 83 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 5: big House than I had seen it a long time. 84 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: I remember when when we first sat down once we 85 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 5: got inside, looking around, thinking, I don't ever recall there 86 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 5: being this much redd in here. So Ohio State fans 87 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: kind of knew this was this is going to be 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: their year. This is going to be the end of 89 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 5: what was a four game winning streak really six years 90 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 5: if you think about it, when they dated back to 91 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 5: the last time they won because Michigan, you know, they 92 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 5: quote unquote didn't play in twenty twenty. Now you can 93 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: you could say either it was due to COVID or 94 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 5: some people have their conspiracy theory and Columbus that maybe 95 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: Harbond knew he was gonna get a hiss butt kicked 96 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 5: like they did in twenty nineteen. 97 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: So whatever the case. 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 5: May be, there is always a little bit of history 99 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 5: and and intrigue about how long it's been the fact 100 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 5: that Ohio State just couldn't figure out a way of 101 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 5: being able to dominate Michigan, and in this case they did. 102 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 5: And I'll say that it was kind of domination in 103 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 5: the entire game outside of the first offensive drive where 104 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 5: Sam took a deep shot. Michigan made a nice playing 105 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: the secondary, and then he made a mistake. You know, 106 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 5: he clearly threw a ball pass, didn't see the defender, 107 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 5: didn't see the coverage, and throws an interception. And the 108 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: one thing that I think you got to credit Ryan 109 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: Day with is I was concerned he was gonna throw, 110 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: like just throw away the game plan and feel like 111 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 5: the moment was too big for Julian Sam, which that 112 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 5: next drive they did kind of get conservative and run 113 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 5: the football a lot, almost like they had to get 114 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: away from it. But at the following drive after that, 115 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 5: they started to throw the football a round and that's 116 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 5: where you were like, okays, he's confident enough he's gonna 117 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: stick with this and he's going to allow his quarterback, 118 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 5: who's played like a Heisman Trophy winner all year long, 119 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 5: to continue to keep leading them. 120 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: So credit to Ryan Day, credit their staff. 121 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 5: Michigan's just not there, you know, talent wise, you could 122 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 5: tell they just were not at the level that Ohio 123 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: State was. And you know, honestly, I'm not sure there's 124 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 5: questions around or Sharon Moore if he's going to be 125 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: the guy or not. But this is now two years 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 5: in a row. They're not going to make the College 127 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: Faball Playoff. It's a departure from where they were under 128 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh. And I'll say this, their offense is not 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: going to be conducive for Bryce Underwood, the mission quarterback, 130 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: to be what he can be. They've got to do 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 5: something to change that because all year long watching that team, 132 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: and I was there for a number of games, it 133 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 5: is frustrating watching how talented Bryce Underwood is and yet 134 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 5: there's just so much left to be desired. 135 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 4: And I don't think it's necessarily on him. 136 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 5: I don't think he's getting the type of coaching an 137 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: offensive system that helps him blossom into what is going 138 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 5: to be this ridiculous talent that we're talking about being 139 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 5: a first overall pick in the future. 140 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a difficult conversation if it If it 141 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: isn't Sharon Moore, if you ask me, because I can't 142 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: even imagine just going through what we're going through now 143 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: trying to figure out, you know, our next head guy 144 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: at Penn State. There are a ton of conversations like, 145 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: he didn't get that job just to get that job, 146 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: you know, it's just too much, too much at stake, 147 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: too many You mentioned Brady and Jeter and what'son being 148 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: at the game. There are so many people that are 149 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: involved with the program and with that university, Like he 150 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: didn't get that by accident. So it's like, if you're 151 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: going to move into the future and he's going to 152 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: have a fair opportunity of being able to recruit and 153 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: build that team up to where it needs to be 154 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: in nio era, I think now the conversation becomes what 155 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: are the resources that are going into building their roster? Right, 156 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: Like we hear those names that we just mentioned, what 157 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: are the resources, you know, where are they coming from? 158 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: I mean, the university itself is one that commands a 159 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: lot of dollar. But outside of that, from the alumni, 160 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: from the lettermen, from their you know, their collective, whatever 161 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: it may be. I don't know what they're spending. I 162 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: don't know the number, but what are they doing in 163 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: terms of being able to keep up with the big 164 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: dog that's spending the money, and that's that's Ohio State. 165 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 5: Bryce Underwood is one of the most expensive players in 166 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 5: the history of college football. So that's that's where I 167 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: kind of point to. It's not a deficiency of money. 168 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I've watched this team in person too many times. 169 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 5: Their offense is tough to watch. And it could be 170 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 5: Chip Lindsay, it could be Sean Moore. Obviously he's the 171 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 5: head of it. But they're sixteen and eight over the 172 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 5: past two years. And I'm not saying he got the 173 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: job by accident. Clearly didn't. But you know, he filled 174 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 5: in for Jim Harbaugh, did a good job when Jim 175 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: Harba went through those suspensions. But this has been a 176 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 5: team that's really struggled, I think, to find a consistent 177 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 5: identity to say. 178 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: Can we throw the football. 179 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 5: This is two years in a row now, in this 180 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: game that they had a quarterback throw for less than 181 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 5: seventy yards and I know you won last year, but 182 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 5: I said it before. I was like, you're not gonna 183 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: win this year. Doing that that last. 184 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 4: Year was a fluke. 185 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 5: That was one of the biggest flukes I've ever seen 186 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 5: where Ohio State just forgot how to play football and 187 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 5: then they obviously figured out championship. 188 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: They really did. 189 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, Uh, it's great for college football though. 190 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: I mean it made this the Saturday, a pretty big Saturday, 191 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: pretty pretty interesting Saturday. I thought it was an entertaining game. 192 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 3: I thought I thought Brudekiss or butter kiss or or Brutus. 193 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: Bruded Brudiciss his his seawak him. 194 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because he definitely see walked the Ohio State 195 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: and then and then krip walked the eye when he 196 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 3: when he dited the eyes like that, even get away 197 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: with crossing out the m like that though. Didn't you 198 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: think he got in trouble for that? I mean it's 199 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: only snow, but still no, I got to pay attention 200 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: to him. That's crazy, man, Like how do the groundskeepers 201 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: not running over? 202 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: Like somebody has to stop that? Like that? 203 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: That said to me all I needed to know, how 204 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: does how does the the mascot get away with crossing 205 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: out the ELM in the in in the end zone 206 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: and then spelling Ohio and dotting the I like the 207 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: like the Marching band does, and nobody does anything. 208 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: That tells me all I need to know. 209 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: I mean, if in the perfect world he would have 210 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: got wiped out, Bruticus would have got wiped out, Oh, 211 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: wiped out, wipe out. 212 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: For making snow designs on the field. 213 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: Jonas you you you don't like that tells me you 214 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: don't all the way fully get it. 215 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking about? Wiped out like 216 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: like what. 217 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: Like wiped out? 218 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: Somebody should have tackled him, ran him, smacked over like 219 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: like he was a streaker. He made himself a streaker 220 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 3: in that moment. He's no different than somebody breaking the 221 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: law that shouldn't be there. And if if it was 222 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: a Michigan fan that went out there and streaked and 223 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: they tackled him, you tackled one of your own because 224 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: they they broke the rules. You can't be crossing out 225 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: the Michigan M. And that's no different than when Bush 226 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: was kicking the M and trying to deface it. When 227 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 3: when they were in Ohio and he was like dragging 228 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: his foot on on the O and all that stuff 229 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: or whatever. 230 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 5: Like it's kind of like it's flag planning, it's field surf. 231 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 5: You're not to be able to do it. 232 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 3: It's no different than any of those things. Though stupid 233 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: you put an X over the em in there in 234 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: there their their end zone out a home game. I 235 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: just I don't know, maybe maybe maybe for the sake 236 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: of conversation, Like when we say the day and age 237 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: of like fifty yard lines was that's a secret line. 238 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 3: It's a line that is an established line. You do 239 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: not cross the fifty yard line of the other teams, like, 240 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: you don't do things on their side of the field. 241 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: That's beef. Like I don't know if it's like that anymore, 242 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: but that's beef. You know when Warren Sapp used to 243 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: come out of the locker room, and if your locker 244 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: room is on the side of the opposing team, generally 245 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: the home team, but even if you are the home team, 246 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: you do not go through somebody's stretch line. You do 247 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: not run on their side of the field. There's just 248 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: certain rules that are unstated rules that you don't break. 249 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: I did like how there was a picture that was 250 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: posted on social media afterwards, where it said Michigan players 251 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: stayed on the field to protect them, like they sit 252 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: on the field to protect the fifty yard lett, dude, 253 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: but you. 254 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: Didn't protect the ill and the end Zoe when when 255 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: Brudokis was krit walking all over your logo like you don't. 256 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 5: Like Uh, that was a nice tweet by Cardil Jones 257 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 5: just said that, Yeah, I should have protected the one 258 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 5: the end zone the whole game. 259 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, also the uh, you know, the the hope 260 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: and a prayer of and look, I think they got 261 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: the call wrong the Jeremiah Smith bobbling the ball over 262 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: the end zone. That it's a terrible rule, but that 263 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: probably should have been a touchback. But if that was 264 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: really your last breath as far as keeping that game 265 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: close and keeping it competitive, that i't to tell you 266 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: everything you need to know, because Julian Sayan was awesome 267 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: after that interception. That was a fourth down call to 268 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, to pull the trigger and go 269 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: deep like that in that moment. And he's got to 270 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: be I would imagine based on where this team is 271 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: at in the rivalry the past five years, Julian Saye's 272 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: got to be a made man in Columbus right now, 273 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: Like he's got it, like that he etched his place 274 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: in this rivalry that he's going to be able to 275 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: hold on to for the rest of his life. 276 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's questions. This is probably the coolest 277 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 5: game he's ever played in his career. Now he's been 278 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 5: in Ohio State now for a little time to practice 279 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: in this weather, but to go out and execute and 280 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: do it in the moment, I mean, it takes some 281 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 5: balls to do it, and then he was able to 282 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 5: showcase that. I want to go back to the play though. 283 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 5: I thought that play because a lot of people say, well, 284 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 5: if you know, if it ended up being a fumble 285 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 5: touchback changes the memento of the game. 286 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: And you're not wrong. 287 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 5: And I think in talking to Dean Blandino more about it, 288 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 5: he had initially led me to think like, yeah, it 289 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 5: probably should have been a fumble touchback, But then the 290 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 5: more we talked about it, the more they slowed it down. 291 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 5: He even said, look, it was going to come down 292 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 5: to what was whatever it was called in the field, 293 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: because you there was a moment where he caught it. 294 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: He was going towards the end zone and before he 295 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: lost control in the end zone. He actually had pinned 296 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: it with his right arm into his chest as he 297 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 5: was crossing, like the initial part of the goal line. 298 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: But that might have been like if the line is, 299 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 5: you know, four inches wide, however long that white line is, 300 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 5: that is the goal line, He's like it was probably 301 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 5: coming out on the other side of that line, Like 302 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 5: that's how tight that call was. So his whole point 303 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 5: was it was going to be whatever they called it 304 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: on the field. And even though the rule probably needs 305 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: to be changed or reevaluated because circumstances like that are 306 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 5: so different. I mean, you're not even talking about like 307 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 5: the defense recovering him really losing complete control. It's just 308 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 5: it's such an interesting rule the way it's it's always been, 309 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 5: and we've complained about it, but no one wants to 310 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: change it. So maybe there will be a push to 311 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: change it at some point. But that wasn't going to 312 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: be the difference in the game. I mean, Ohio State 313 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: got so conservative in the second half running the football. 314 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: If they wanted to, they probably could have put up 315 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 5: another couple of touchdowns on them. I mean, that was 316 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: that was the stark of a difference between Ohio State 317 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 5: Michigan as we've had in quite a while. I mean, 318 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 5: you can go through the last four years of Michigan winning, 319 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 5: and outside of a couple of games where they had 320 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: some big fourth quarter runs, those games have been tight. 321 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 5: That game never really felt tight, Like honestly, even going 322 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 5: into half, You're like, this should be a blowout, it 323 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 5: should be worse than what it is. 324 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: I was hoping they were within field goal range and 325 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Day would have kicked a field goal at the end, 326 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: just too if it got to fourth down. 327 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: Just to do it, Yeah, why not just do it? 328 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: All the crap he's had to hear from Michigan fans 329 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: over the last four or five years, like all of 330 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: that stuff that he's had to listen to, Just kick 331 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: a field goal and put the dagger in and just 332 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: see what happens after that. 333 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: I'll say, even portanoid man, I we didn't see him. 334 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: You know, he left. 335 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: He's gotta playing the catch. 336 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: That's usually what he ends up saying. 337 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 5: He's gotta he's gotta go, He's got to play the catch. Now, 338 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 5: my experience line private is. 339 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: You know those when you want to leave, Yeah, they 340 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 4: don't leave until you want to leave. 341 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: So the fact that he's leaving kind from his life, 342 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 5: got playing catch the game, got to be on time. 343 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 5: Doesn't want to be a part of something. I mean, 344 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 5: I just you know, it was such a pleasure to 345 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 5: work with him this year. It's a little upsetting he 346 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 5: just decided to want to dip out like that. 347 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: So he just showed y'all what y'all's true friendship is 348 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: and how deep it runs. It doesn't run. 349 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: It's professional as those those blue blue and mad that 350 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: mazing gold, mazing yellow ties that he has. 351 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you all this. 352 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: After watching the game, I said to myself, I've seen 353 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: the number two team play in person. I've seen the 354 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: number one team play. I don't think it's close. I 355 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: think Ohio State is in the league of their own 356 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: as a team. I don't think there's one team that's 357 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: even close to Ohio State. But with that being said, 358 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: we get to see number one and number two. I 359 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: think in the first time in history that that number 360 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: one number two are going to play in the championship game, 361 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: at least in the Big ten. I'm not sure which 362 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: one is the history of it all or whatever, but anyways, 363 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: one into two. I think this is a This is 364 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: a super super big game for Kirk Signetty because of 365 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: the clout, the clout involved in this game, if he 366 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: were to be able to win this game. I don't 367 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 3: see anyone being able to beat Ohio State this year. 368 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know how they've gotten so good 369 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: and how the gap is what it is this. 370 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: Year's academics people want to do. 371 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it is man that that high standard 372 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: of how they do it. I don't know, but whatever 373 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: it is, it's working, and it just it appears to 374 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: be a gap like you can you can walk with 375 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: Ohio State in the first half, but they eventually walk 376 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: you down and then walk away. And they've done it 377 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: all year long, like they have pretty much hammered everybody 378 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: within the same face unless it was a team that 379 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: just wasn't good. Otherwise, if it was a good team, 380 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: they walk you down. 381 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: I just don't. 382 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting to see what what Kirk Signetti 383 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: and this Indiana team will be able to do. 384 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: I don't. 385 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: I don't think that they have enough to be able 386 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: to handle or deal with Ohio State, but I could 387 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: be wrong, and I find it to be an intriguing 388 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: matchup because you know that that is the other team 389 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: that you could say is it's a hot team. They've 390 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: found a way to always win and and now here's 391 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: a matchup to see who wins the conference the conference title. 392 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 393 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 5: I think it's an interesting question because I don't know 394 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 5: that Indiana has a lot of weaknesses and I think 395 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 5: we we kind of or some people look back on 396 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 5: last year and go, yeah, well, well is Indiana like 397 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: who they played? They haven't played the toughest competitions. They dude, 398 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 5: they won an Oregon, they won in Penn State in 399 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 5: the final moments they did. They've bludgeoned everyone else they've played. 400 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: I mean it's it's not really been close. 401 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: Uh. 402 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: Then that includes like a good Illinois team who was 403 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: eight and four this year but eligible, and they had 404 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 5: to play Ohio State, they had to play you know, 405 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 5: s see a really tough schedule, and you start kind 406 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 5: of combing it through and I mean maybe say, well, Iowa, 407 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 5: you know they was that was a tight game also 408 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: on the road, Like they had a really difficult schedule 409 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 5: and they answered the bell every single time. And no 410 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: one's playing if you want to say join sans playing 411 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 5: at a Heisman level. 412 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: So is Francisco Mendoza. 413 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 5: I mean it's you just you look at what he's 414 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 5: doing and you just say, okay, like Fernando, excuse me. 415 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 5: You look at what he's doing right now and say 416 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: and then even the receivers, their receivers are just as productive. 417 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: Omar Cooper Junior who made the great catch for US 418 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 5: Penn State, and Elijah Surratt, both those guys are playing 419 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 5: at equal to a level of what Carnel Tate and 420 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 5: Jeremi Smith. Now I'm not saying they're going to be 421 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 5: viewed as the same prospects when they are getting drafted, 422 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 5: like Carnil Tay first round, Jeremi Smith first round. 423 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if I can say that for Surat 424 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: and Cooper Jr. But you match these teams up, they 425 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: are about as even as you can get. 426 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 5: And I think the only thing I've become concerned by 427 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 5: is the ability for Indiana to run the football. And 428 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: if they can, you know, can they protect quite as well? 429 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 5: And I think that's what got exposed a little bit 430 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: at Penn State. And now I'll say this, what they 431 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 5: needed to protect they did, and they were able to 432 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 5: find a way of winning that game. But that was 433 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: one of those games where you're kind of watching and 434 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: going all right, like, maybe this is a little bit 435 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 5: of that weakness. But I mean, they were well coached, 436 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 5: they're sound, they don't make mistakes. I think it's to 437 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 5: be a hell of a game. 438 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: I really do. 439 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: Between these two teams. 440 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: I know you can't bring up prior years, but I'm 441 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: going to. 442 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: I just feel like we felt this way in a 443 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: lot of ways about India and last year, and then 444 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: they got into that playoff game. 445 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 4: But they didn't play one last year. 446 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: And I get that, and I know you laid that 447 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: out very nicely. You gave it is a different quarterback. 448 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: I just think program wise it still it matters. It 449 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: should be stated that when they got up against the 450 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: real team in the playoff they got spanked. 451 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 5: Well they they got spanked by Ohio State. Last year 452 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 5: they played, they played. They haven't played Ohio State yet 453 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 5: this year. The cigarette I would be. 454 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: I would not be shocked if if Ohio State mollywops 455 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: Indiana and in this game, I would not be I 456 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: would not be shocked if they did. That's all I'm saying. 457 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: I've seen both him good this year. The Ohio State. 458 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: I think it's that good year. I think Ohio State 459 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: is that good. 460 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: I really do. 461 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I ain't gonna hold them. I really think 462 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: Ohio State is that good. I don't know who's close 463 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: to them. That's that's and and going in his stretch. 464 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: If you go back and look at the film, this 465 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 5: like yesterday's or Saturday's game, like, there's some things where 466 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: there were some weaknesses there. 467 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: You know, Michigan was. 468 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 5: Kind of attacking this the C and D gaps and 469 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 5: the outside edge, and they got away from it and 470 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 5: it was effective, like they were. 471 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 4: They knocked off some big runs. 472 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 5: They were moving the football early doing that, and I 473 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 5: honestly didn't think it wasn't like Ohio State did it 474 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 5: much to adjust to it. It felt like it was 475 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 5: a bit more of just Michigan getting away from it, 476 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 5: which has been always my griper issue with Chip Lindsay's 477 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 5: I just I've never really loved watching his tape and 478 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: feeling like the offense is able to stand to a rhythm. 479 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: So I don't know, I mean, I'm not sure how. 480 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: The same thing running the ball early they had success 481 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: early against Ohio State, look look promising and then and 482 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: then Ohio State turned on uh the Willy Beaming Willy 483 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: Beaman reactor juice, like they just they just disappeared, like 484 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: just out of there, gone like second half. I don't 485 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: know what their adjustments were at the halftime or or 486 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: if they just wore down what we had going on, 487 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: but just seeing what they did in the second half 488 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 3: was like they they they started airing it out even 489 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: more because they aired it out early in the game, 490 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: but they started they I mean, they came out airing 491 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: it out. I just I think their ability to be 492 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: able to score when they want to score Ohio State, 493 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: they can, they can. I just don't think their guys 494 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: are are coverable and they have a good compliment in 495 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 3: the run game and their defense play. I just don't 496 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: know that there's a team I watched Georgia play, I 497 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: watched Alabama play like, I just don't know their feel. 498 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: Like their best is way better than anybody else's. 499 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: That's that's I mean in my estimation, in my estimation, 500 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: and it's going to be interesting to see that a 501 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: team that that was just described the same way that 502 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: that Brady just described him, which I feel is accurate. 503 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: This is an Indiana team that matches up well, that 504 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 3: has a team. They got they got victories, they they 505 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 3: have reason to believe that this can be a game. 506 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: I just don't think that they're that close to being 507 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 3: that good as Ohio State. 508 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't be interesting to see if Kirk 509 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: Signetty gets this win. 510 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: That talk about a heavy ass feather, because I ain't 511 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: never heard of a feather being heavy, But that's a 512 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: heavy feather in his cats. 513 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: Good point. 514 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I know we're going to talk about lank. 515 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: That's a big old bitch there. 516 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Great point, by the way, get tools of performance, the 517 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: highest every job feather without comprise. When you shot Makda 518 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: at the home depot, when the job calls for the 519 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: best call on Mikida, built to be the best available 520 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: at the home depot, pros get more done. So we 521 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: are gonna have the usuals for you coming up here 522 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: on this football recap Monday. Pete Prisco is gonna stop 523 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: by our three We've got the leftovers the FSR IR 524 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: in case you missed it, all of it is yours 525 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: here on this three hour extravaganza up next. Though apparently 526 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: not everybody's happy. Not everybody's happy with what is currently 527 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: going on with one team in the world of football. 528 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: We'll get into that for you here ont FSR. 529 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 530 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 531 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 532 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 6: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 533 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from The Odd 534 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 535 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 7: And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven 536 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 7: to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are excited. 537 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: To announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 538 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: That's right, you can now watch The Odd Couple live 539 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: on YouTube every day. 540 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 7: All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube 541 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 7: again YouTube, Just search Odd Couple FSR. 542 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: Check us out on YouTube and subscribe. 543 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: All right, Christmas Music's back, Sweet Tam his hair. Yeah, 544 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 545 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox 546 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: with you hair. So we are going to continue the 547 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: college football discussion coming up here just a couple of 548 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: moments from now. But first it is time for the 549 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: tire rack play of the. 550 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: Day, Denver with the Blitz on the way. 551 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 8: Boll the fucking by Nick Banto. 552 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: He the Broncos with it. Great play by Nick Benito. 553 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 6: He came untouched and the Broncos in overtime have beaten 554 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 6: the Commanders twenty seven to twenty six. 555 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: That is a heavily Justin Cooper influenced tire rack play 556 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: of the Dane of the Broncos Bonito Nick knocking down 557 00:27:53,320 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: Who Conversion by Marcus Mariota Benito unbelievable coop, by the way. 558 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 4: Kind of like Lane Kiffin knocking down little miss is offer. 559 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: I guess that's not very nice. By the way, for 560 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: over forty years, Tyreck's been helping customers find the right 561 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: tires for how, what and where they drive. 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I think the first thing I'll just. 572 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: Generally ask, why do you guys feel like he left 573 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 4: Old Miss. 574 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 3: It's a great question that I've been asking myself of 575 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: the entire time. Did they offer because it's always the 576 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: bottom line. It has to be the bottom line. Like 577 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you could say, oh, 578 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: I love being here and they loved you and this, 579 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: that and the other and that, But when it comes 580 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: down to you being a coach or being paid for 581 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: a service that you do, that's exactly what it is. 582 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: It's a service you're being paid to do. So it's 583 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: the bottom line to. 584 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: Me, what did do we know? 585 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: What what Ole Miss offered him? I mean twelve million 586 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: a year? Did they come close to the twelve million? 587 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: Did they more than It's one. 588 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: Of the reports was there was something similar to Florida 589 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: and LSU's offer. 590 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: It was similar, which what does that mean? 591 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 5: Well, which which it was twelve million, but with incentives 592 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: it gets close to like fourteen from LSU, which gets 593 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 5: you around seven years almost. 594 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 4: One hundred million, and That's where I kind of first go. 595 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 5: You can say you would have matched, but you didn't, 596 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 5: or if I mean or you didn't overpay either you 597 00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: didn't spend that. 598 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: Stuff thought we'll pay you fifteen. 599 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: It's the bottom line, Like whatever whatever he heard and 600 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: the offers, I think if ole Miss put an offer 601 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: out there that was was the same as LSU's, I 602 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: think he stays at Old Miss. 603 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: I really did did. I think he does, because here's 604 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: the thing. 605 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: They're about to go into a college football playoff, and 606 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: who's to say that if Lane Kiffin is the head 607 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: coach of this team, that they don't make a run 608 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: for the championship. Who's to say they don't win the championship. 609 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 5: It's a valid question, and we'll get to that because 610 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: I do think there's something I want to point out 611 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 5: as another layer of this, but join us. 612 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: Why do you think that I think that he views 613 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: himself as bigger than ole Miss? I think he I 614 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: think in the back of his mind he views ole 615 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: Miss as a second tier program to a place like 616 00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: LSU and four. 617 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 5: Okay, so though I'll tell you because I think it's 618 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: on this regard, I think financially with what LSU was 619 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 5: offering and probably not what Old Miss will offer because 620 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 5: one of the underlying things is you heard about the contract. 621 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 5: What seven years twelve million, but up to fourteen with 622 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 5: incentives that gets you around ninety eight million. There's also 623 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 5: supposedly a commitment of thirty five million a year in 624 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 5: nil and recruiting. So the difference between whatever Brian Kelly 625 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 5: left for and what did or did not happen was 626 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 5: largely tied to Brian Kelly not wanting to recruit. I mean, 627 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 5: having money is one thing. Being able to actually go 628 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 5: out recruit the kids. Everything else that's a whole different thing. 629 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 5: So now you've got a guy who is going to recruit, 630 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 5: who does have the money and does have the offensive acumen. 631 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: So I think it's the money combined with what Jonas 632 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: just touched on. 633 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 5: He feels like and then we're talking about the greatest 634 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 5: season in Old Miss history, the greatest one of success 635 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 5: in Old Miss history. And what's interesting about Lane making 636 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 5: this decision is he feels like they're probably out their 637 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 5: steiling now you can use which is kind of crazy 638 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: when you look at Indiana, for example, what Kurt Signetti 639 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 5: has done Vanderbilt, what Clark Lee has done some of 640 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 5: these other schools that you look at how these other 641 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 5: coaches have made them into what I think we believe 642 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 5: to be playoff contenders. The ability to take compete for 643 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 5: a national championship, you know, is that sustainable in the 644 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 5: long term. We're going to find out. It's a year 645 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 5: two of Kurt Signetti. You know, Clark Lee has been 646 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 5: there for a little bit building this thing up. But 647 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 5: after Diego Pavia leaves, what's that offense going to look like? 648 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't like it was offensive, you know, 649 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 5: prowess for Vanderbilt At times it's just Diego Pavia making 650 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 5: a play, you know, the play after the play when 651 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 5: he starts to scramble around or takes off and runs 652 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 5: on pass play, So we get to see a real 653 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 5: view of what that's going to look like. And I 654 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 5: think Jonas to your point, like Lane Kiffen believes LSU 655 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 5: is gonna be able to win a national championship easier 656 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 5: than what Ole Miss is gonna be able to do. 657 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: He's in position to win one right now they don't, 658 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: which I think is the most preposterous thing. 659 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: You get me, but Hurt, do you think. 660 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 5: He believes that though because I also feel like he 661 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 5: doesn't believe that if he's choosing to leave, if he 662 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 5: really thought they had a shot, if he really thought 663 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: they had a shot. And I guess I'll just bring 664 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 5: this up now. They've never been a good defensive team. 665 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 5: Elaine kiff and coach team has never been a good 666 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 5: defensive team. They weren't at SC, they weren't at FAU. 667 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 5: I think I think it's high water marks, like third 668 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 5: or fifth in any conference he's been in defensively, And 669 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: I'm going back to what conference USA for FAU. You 670 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 5: can look at Ole mess They've never been good defensively. 671 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 5: They've never been well the high ranked defensively. If you 672 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 5: really want to make the comparison, and I did this 673 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 5: to you guys last week, Lincoln Riley and Lane Kiffin 674 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 5: are not that far apart. And Lincoln Riley was in 675 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: a much better situation, or left a much better situation 676 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 5: at Oklahoma than where Lane Kiffins had to kind of 677 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 5: jump around to different programs and build those things back up. 678 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 5: But neither has ever been able to fully coach a 679 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 5: dominant football team. 680 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: They've always been great offensively. 681 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 5: They've always had guys who could say, oh, they might 682 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 5: be in the Heisman you know, a Heisman conversation, or 683 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 5: you know Lincoln Rabs coached some Heisman winners. 684 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 4: It's just been. 685 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 5: Purely offensive football. They've never been teams would say, man 686 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 5: that defense though, it's. 687 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 3: Never been thinking I think he's set up for I mean, listen, 688 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: at this point, it doesn't I guess it doesn't really 689 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: matter if you underperform once you've pluy, once you've coached 690 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 3: well enough to get the type of contracts a Lane 691 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: Kiffin has just has just got reportedly, So to me, 692 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: it's like, I don't I think he will fall in 693 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 3: the same type of category as Kelly did. I think 694 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: a lot of times that's what's going to happen. You 695 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: get these large contracts, but you're probably never going to 696 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 3: outperform the amount of money that that university is going 697 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 3: to pay you. I don't think he will. Whether he 698 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: gets a defense in Baton Rouge or not, I don't 699 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: think he will. 700 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: Now. 701 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 3: As far as him believing what he has right now 702 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 3: and can he do it and is his defense good enough, 703 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: all I would say is it's led to him getting 704 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: this moment. It's led to him getting this contract, And 705 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: to me, that's bigger than him winning the national title. 706 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: Like as a professional, his job, occupation and his performance 707 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: led to him getting the ultimate reward, which is a 708 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: contract that pays him the type of money that he's 709 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: going to get paid. So whether he believed it or not, 710 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 3: I guess it's immaterial because he's gotten the results that 711 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: that he would want to have, whether it came from LSU, 712 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 3: whether it came from Old Miss. 713 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 2: He got what he wanted. So I don't I think 714 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 2: you gotta let the guy play it out. 715 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: That's what I say. You gotta let him play it out. 716 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spike myself. I'm 717 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: not going to punish my university in my team by saying, Okay, 718 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: he chose to leave, he's gonna leave after this. There's 719 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 3: a respect factor there between him and his players. And 720 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 3: the way Lane Kiffin comes across, he probably allowed his 721 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: guys behind the scenes or or behind the curtain of 722 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: what he was thinking and that we don't need to 723 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: let this be a deterrent or distraction of what's going on. 724 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: We all got things to do. He had, He very 725 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 3: much has that type of personality. You let them, You 726 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 3: let them cats try to finish what they did. He 727 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: didn't say I'm taking the job and I'm leaving. 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That's Promo Code two PROS. At DraftKings, the 759 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: crown is yours. So Laane Kiffin is gone, He's out 760 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: the door, He's in Baton Rouge. He's now the head 761 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: coach of the LSU Tigers. Would you guys like to 762 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: hear his reasoning behind the decision? 763 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 4: Yeah? 764 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: Like you all right? 765 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: So here he was talking to Marty Smith of ESPN 766 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,479 Speaker 1: about why he made the decision and party. 767 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, I got in sleep for three days. 768 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: By the way, he is awesome. He also talked about, 769 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, his conversations with Ole miss about wanting to 770 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: stick around and see this thing through as far as 771 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: this season goes, and how that all played out. 772 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 8: My heart was here, but I just you know, I 773 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 8: talked to some mentors, Coach Carol, Coach Saban, you know, 774 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 8: and especially when coach Carrol seven and your dad would 775 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 8: tell you to go, man, take the shot. 776 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 2: You know, take the shot. 777 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 8: You've accomplished a lot here. 778 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: You know. 779 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 8: I always felt I always hated how we only gave 780 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 8: one year to Tennessee and left. I really hated that 781 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 8: feeling of that, you know, even though it was exciting year. 782 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 8: But you know, I think that we gave a lot 783 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 8: to this program and to the city and you know, 784 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 8: some of those historic wins in this stadium they ever 785 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 8: had and best best regular season in the history of 786 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 8: the school. So I feel proud of that part. But 787 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 8: it became time, you know, I talk to God and 788 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 8: go mean, it's time to take a new step. It's 789 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 8: a new chapter again. I totally respect Keith's decision. 790 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: So that was his decision. Yeah. 791 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, he asked me not to come to the meeting 792 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 8: and said I couldn't come, but which I totally understand. 793 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 8: You know, I don't know that I necessarily agree with that. 794 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 8: You know, we're trying to find a way, you know, 795 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 8: to make this work and coach the team and give 796 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 8: the team the best chance to win. But I also 797 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 8: he's got a job to do, and like he said, 798 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 8: he has to live here. Like he said, maybe all 799 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 8: the national people understand why you should let me coach, 800 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 8: but he has to live here and it's a little 801 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 8: different wing they do. So totally respect that. And Keith 802 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 8: has been amazing to us over the six years. 803 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: Man, just pray on it. 804 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 4: Man, Well, isn't he giving you though? When he's saying like, hey, 805 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,479 Speaker 4: we've had the best season. 806 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 5: We give him so much, but they take this opportunity, Well, 807 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 5: what's the opportunity is the opportunity to win a national 808 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 5: championship then at LSU, because you can't at Old Miss. 809 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 4: You feel like you're out your ceiling or it's unlikely. 810 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 4: Like that's what he's in essence admitting to us when 811 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 4: he says that. 812 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it feels like he's saying, I mean, 813 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: you should be thankful for what I did for you, 814 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: like you should, like you can talk about me leaving. 815 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: They should. Okay, he's not lying. He gave him their 816 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: best season. 817 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: And I gotta live here is your best reasoning to 818 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 3: say why I don't want you coaching. 819 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: I gotta live here, like let him finish out. Listen. 820 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 3: Life is about working, creating opportunities, and giving yourself an 821 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: opportunity to make decisions in moments of success, just like 822 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 3: you got to find out ways to do things in 823 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: moments of defeat. So I mean, I don't this is 824 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 3: not unique, This isn't new. So the fact that he 825 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 3: wanted to move on, it's just like we had to 826 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 3: move on.