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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast still hasn't found what it's

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Speaker 1: looking for. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with heroes. Different heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Cesler, you know Mark Celer, Greg Rosen all you

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Speaker 1: know Greg. But we have a returning hero. Her name

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Speaker 1: is Yeah. I was gonna say, well, I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: just back off right, I'm doing my best here. Everybody

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Speaker 1: knows who she is. The laughter alone that is Lindsay Rhodes,

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Speaker 1: NFL Networks own, one of the faces of our network, Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. Um, I like some happy music

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Speaker 1: or something. I mean, I was expecting that. I kind

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Speaker 1: of like Lindsay's hey O better than Wes's hey Man

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Speaker 1: all height. Diane West is on the bricks Number one,

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Speaker 1: not even here today, sitting in West's seat. He knew

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Speaker 1: I was coming with some dating advice side for this one.

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Speaker 1: There has been since the last time Lindsay was here

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Speaker 1: last month, West has There have been some overtures online,

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Speaker 1: uh toward West about you know, we're trying to get

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Speaker 1: West a girlfriend, but most have been out of state

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Speaker 1: except for this one. Like little manson like cult that

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Speaker 1: seems to like West That's good, So you know we're

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Speaker 1: booming in the right direction. That's your categorization of what

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Speaker 1: it is. Fair enough. I think number of them are

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Speaker 1: not even in the United States. So he's attracting a

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Speaker 1: wide spread, a wide and I'm just trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: get some feedback about Lindsay's last appearance. When someone heard

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Speaker 1: this today, they said, well, try not to have them

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Speaker 1: high school. I said, wow, what does that mean? This

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Speaker 1: is an indirect way of Greg propping himself up because

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Speaker 1: he wasn't part of that show. I said, show we

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Speaker 1: ever did well? I don't you know. I don't like

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Speaker 1: where you're coming from with that. I'm just saying I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where it was either, But what are

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Speaker 1: so we got a big show, a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: maybe the names are not as big. But there's still

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Speaker 1: a ton of news to get to. So it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be for the fourth straight show, very news heavy. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring back the speed Round because we've got no

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Speaker 1: then if we have time, we're going to get We're

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Speaker 1: gonna touch on a piece that Mark Cessler the Quiet

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Speaker 1: Storm wrote called Remaining Free Agent. Oh what a piece

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Speaker 1: you so did not read it. It was tremendous. So

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that if we have time. If not, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you cannot take offense. So it was just a time issue.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, that's fun. You cant I already? I don't

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Speaker 1: it's probably the first thing to go if any sort

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Speaker 1: read any of them. No, inaccurate, totally inaccurate. And Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: you'll be happy to know you work on the TV side,

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Speaker 1: primarily of course hosting Total Access Today all week or

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Speaker 1: just today, just today, our flagship program here on NFL Network,

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Speaker 1: Lindsay is gonna be talking about Tim Tebow for sixty

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Speaker 1: a little later. Yeah, we've got big Matt Shop news

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Speaker 1: to get to first that we're that. Yeah, that's our

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Speaker 1: Always great to see you, second show in a row.

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Speaker 1: think of both signings? Well, it's tough to see uh

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Speaker 1: big Vince leave, but it makes sense Romeo Cornell is

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Speaker 1: there and they have that position. You stick him next

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Speaker 1: to J. J. Watt. If that means basically you can

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Speaker 1: only send one defender at Vince Wilfork. He's gonna stop

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Speaker 1: the run. He was still a pretty good player last year.

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Speaker 1: It's just paid a lot of money, played a ton

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Speaker 1: of snaps. I like the addition of shorts too, because

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Speaker 1: stay that fills a huge kneed. They absolutely needed to

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Speaker 1: get a wide receiver with Andrey Johnson out the door,

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Speaker 1: and he's not always He's obviously had injury issues but

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Speaker 1: went healthy. If they's been a very solid number two

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Speaker 1: type guy, I think they don't have a real number one, though.

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Speaker 1: I guess DeAndre Hompkins is a number one. Have we

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Speaker 1: already forgotten the last time the Texans signed a universally

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Speaker 1: well liked veteran player coming off a Super Bowl win.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point at Reid that didn't work out

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Speaker 1: of all, this smells a little bit like because the

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Speaker 1: Bell Bellchack and the Pats, they know what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: that he could get to Houston and the wheels gonna

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Speaker 1: come up for Big Vans, who we love and we

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Speaker 1: love Bianca. Uh but I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much he has left in the tank. I like

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Speaker 1: the shorts move a lot better. Well, the conversation is

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Speaker 1: similar to the one we just had with the Bills, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless you get somebody in there the quarterback position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is, it's a similar It's a nine and seventeen.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Damascheck talking to Brian Mallett, like Ryan

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Speaker 1: Mallett is the solution to all the issues in the world.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they they seem to believe that he could

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Speaker 1: be a guy. But Brian Hoyer is getting paid more

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Speaker 1: money than out. Is that correct? Well, it's a longer

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Speaker 1: contract to I mean, if malt doesn't beat out Hoyer,

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Speaker 1: that's bad news. But but those are both names where

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Speaker 1: you're saying, okay, now we have a quarterback, not like

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Speaker 1: we have the quarterback. Right. They'll both play too, like

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Speaker 1: we're going to know. But it's tough for teams like

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Speaker 1: the Browner Texans. I mean, it's like you can't stop

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Speaker 1: trying to improve the rest of your team. The Texans

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Speaker 1: did pretty well with Wade Phillips and that defense dominating.

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Speaker 1: I guess relatively. Well, you've got to hope that Phill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien can cook up a little bit offense. We didn't

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Speaker 1: really see that he could do that. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think Wilfork and you mentioned Bianca, that's a big addition

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Speaker 1: the whole community. Well, that's the first family of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'd love the Wilforks. I mean he does. He's not

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Speaker 1: a big fan of punctuation. We talked about that before.

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Speaker 1: He kept that going with his tweets today, just long sentences.

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Speaker 1: He's a good speller, clearly, and he he his thoughts.

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Speaker 1: They come out well and you understand what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, where's the comma? Where's the period? He

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Speaker 1: thanked Bill Belichick said that, you know, Linda Holiday Belgic's

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Speaker 1: girlfriends part of his family. His sons are part of

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Speaker 1: his fa. Yeah, someday he'll be in the Patriots Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, but this year he's going to be playing

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots. They play against Houston. Are his your

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Speaker 1: and yours and I don't care about the commas or

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Speaker 1: the periods, as long as you're your and your earth.

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Speaker 1: Now he not only that, he's against even I'm putting

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Speaker 1: an apostrophe into that. He's got some block and tackle

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Speaker 1: rules downs. It's some it's more, you know, mysterious elements

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Speaker 1: outside of the basic grammar stuff. But good friend, does

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Speaker 1: he capitalize well sometimes if you don't do punctuation a

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Speaker 1: lot of times, I'm is also lower case true that

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Speaker 1: you're the smartest man in the room right now. This

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Speaker 1: guy he graduated, Lindsay early, from Oxford and he's brave skull,

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Speaker 1: that's skull barely and he's got to go to another

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Speaker 1: big I mean, he's going over sees for another big

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Speaker 1: time post grad programming. We're just the what are you

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Speaker 1: doing here? I'm enjoying myself. But anyway, it must as

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Speaker 1: a genius, it must bother you when people don't use

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Speaker 1: punctuations even I actually love My favorite thing is when

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Speaker 1: people just break the hundred forty character limit by taking

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Speaker 1: screenshots of longer kind of smart. Yeah, Vince has just

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Speaker 1: disrupted the game. There, Yeah, I like it. Let's move

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Speaker 1: on now, Thank you, gold Standard. You know you don't

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Speaker 1: have to be bashable about being a very intelligent man.

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Speaker 1: I'm not no, I mean, I'm not I'm not that intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of love connections, Lindsay wants when Zack

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Speaker 1: used to be a regular producer. About a year ago,

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Speaker 1: a female fan called it on the show to ask

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Speaker 1: Zack out and they had a conversation and uh, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he ever got together. It never happened.

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Speaker 1: He basically shut her down. No, I wouldn't say that

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Speaker 1: she was a long right. She was in New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she was like in the valley. It was way too far.

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Speaker 1: Did you like fly out to see her or was

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Speaker 1: there anymore? No? We you know, just we could have

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Speaker 1: skyped this out, but it just didn't work. Did you

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Speaker 1: have this conversation on the air, Yes, we did. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, otherwise you're going to remain the backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback if you, as a producer don't see the value

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Speaker 1: in that, right, No, no no, no, I was definitely made

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Speaker 1: for podcast. Yeah, there are there are There are some

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Speaker 1: Steve Young shades with Gold Centers a backup podcast producer. Alright, So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Greg Mark, let's talk about your boy

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, who signed a five year, ninety nine million

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Speaker 1: dollar deal can escalate up to a hundred and eight

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Speaker 1: million with the Steelers. So we never everyone knew he

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Speaker 1: was going to get a deal done to stay in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: but they make it happen, they get it out of

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Speaker 1: the way, and you got to deal with them in

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Speaker 1: the n f C North for another five or so years. Probably. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it feels like the contract is late coming

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Speaker 1: after all these other quarterbacks that signed these, you know,

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Speaker 1: lucrative deals. It's totally worthwhile. I've always felt like he's

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Speaker 1: barn one one of the toughest quarterbacks in football, and

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Speaker 1: you know, at growing up as a tortured Browns fan, man,

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Speaker 1: this guy just will not go away. So good for Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I honest, you were pretty grown up

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Speaker 1: by the time Ben arrived, you or in your thirties

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Speaker 1: or something like to Mantel Jordan in high school dances.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm just the math. And Marc was actually

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Speaker 1: like now, you look back on that draft in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: had a chance to take Big Ben and they took

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Speaker 1: Kelen Winslow. Both had terrible motorcycle accidents. Ben walked out

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Speaker 1: like a robot uninjured, Kelen Winslow out for multiple seasons.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think anyone in Cleveland has to

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Speaker 1: look big Ben came from Miami of Ohio, so it's

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Speaker 1: always been a star cross. I think it's just the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: This is where remember they couldn't find a quarterback before

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Speaker 1: Big Ben, and they were this team would float from

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Speaker 1: six and ten seasons to nine and seven because they

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Speaker 1: didn't have that guy. They've been on the map every

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Speaker 1: day since they drafted him. Other teams in the division

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Speaker 1: cannot say that well, being very controlled about it now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like me if I get worked up

552
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Speaker 1: about if Bill belichicked in and facts the resignation letter

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Speaker 1: and he was the coach of the Jets. But I try,

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Speaker 1: I literally try not to think about that kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff because it just it hurts too much. Ben, Greg

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Speaker 1: you are I call it. That was a joke calling

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger Mark's boy, But you are a big Ben fan,

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Speaker 1: A big big Ben fan. Yeah, and a lot. And

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Speaker 1: this is the time of his career. Everyone said he

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Speaker 1: was going to start struggling because he didn't have the

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Speaker 1: mental side of the game necessarily, and maybe his body

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Speaker 1: was gonna start breaking down a little bit. But he's

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Speaker 1: coming off one of his best seasons. And everyone killed

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Speaker 1: Todd Haley for a while, but he's coming off a

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Speaker 1: season with yards and I think Brady and Manning and

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Speaker 1: they've kind of re wired our minds for how quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are gonna age because Ben is thirty three, and usually

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Speaker 1: you would be thinking he's kind of hitting the downside

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Speaker 1: at this point, and you wouldn't want to give maybe

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Speaker 1: necessarily that big money. He's shaking her head at me. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm shaking my head that she's disgusted by

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Speaker 1: your point. I feel like it's a valid point that

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Speaker 1: I don't see him breaking down anytime soon. I feel

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Speaker 1: like he's got several years left in him. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much that has to do with Manning

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Speaker 1: and Brady playing so late into their career, but but

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Speaker 1: you're right, there's no anticipation that he's on the back end.

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Speaker 1: It's weird too, because every other position it still is

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Speaker 1: that same thing. If you once you get past thirty

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Speaker 1: and the edge to thirty two, you're kind of staring

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Speaker 1: down the barrel. Well not even that you're staring down

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Speaker 1: the barrel. At the end of your career, you start

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Speaker 1: you're not the same guy you were. But in the

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Speaker 1: last what ten years or so, it's the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: has changed in terms of how these guys last, and

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Speaker 1: they a lot of these guys, you're still flat in

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Speaker 1: the middle of your smack in the middle of your

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Speaker 1: prime at thirty five, which you cannot say about any

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Speaker 1: other position really in any other sport. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting Pittsburgh. Also, there were years where Big Ben was

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Speaker 1: getting crushed behind that line, and they've done a better

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Speaker 1: job with that. And yeah, they finally, like I think

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Speaker 1: they restocked that offense where it's not him having to

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Speaker 1: do everything by himself on every play, and with Levy

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Speaker 1: on Bell in there, I mean, this is a this

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Speaker 1: is a super Bowl type team, and there's no reason

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Speaker 1: to think that he couldn't play another five years. How

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Speaker 1: crazy are these contracts for quarterbacks? So like that this

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Speaker 1: is the norm now that if you are and and

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Speaker 1: and I'm not putting Ben ro I'm not calling Ben

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Speaker 1: roethlisbergn average or okay quarterback. He's clearly one of the

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Speaker 1: better quarterbacks in this league, arguably top five six. But

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Speaker 1: if you are a better than average quarterback, you're making yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then you know, if you look at baseball the

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Speaker 1: their contracts and you think about it, it's like he's

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Speaker 1: only making the same as the number four starter on

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Speaker 1: the Indians or something. Like that. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: they deserve it. It's better than giving Byron Maxwell ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Get you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of players getting eight nine, ten million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year that are barely above average starters, So

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Speaker 1: why not pay the question they talk about it. It

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Speaker 1: could change very soon with Russell Wilson's potential contract where

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Speaker 1: it's sixteen million GA inteed per season somewhere in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: That will blow the doors off the way that quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are valued. Well, you know what I first thought about

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Speaker 1: when this contract came about was the moment um when

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk that Ben Roethlisberger could

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Speaker 1: be traded from the Steelers after his legal problems in

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Speaker 1: two thousand. When was that two thousand eight nine, I

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Speaker 1: really can't remember at the top of my head, but

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Speaker 1: I remember covering the story and no one really wanted

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger necessarily, and if someone had stepped in at

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Speaker 1: that moment, they could have had him potentially, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you believe the reports that were out there, and

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Speaker 1: the Steelers were ready to let him go, And now

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Speaker 1: here he is. You know, he's the face of the franchise.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of forgotten that all ever happened, and they

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Speaker 1: were smart to keep him. Well, he did the work.

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Speaker 1: From a pr standpoint at the very least, Sure, he

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Speaker 1: seems like a totally different person. Yeah. I think it's

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Speaker 1: like he like these guys are young when they hit

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Speaker 1: the league, and he was the archetype of the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers quarterback going out. I mean, you talked to Damna

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Speaker 1: check about some of the stuff that was happening in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Well that's not happening today. Mark. He's he's turned his

637
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: his actor and he's a great guy. I feel that

638
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: you agree. It looks like hut listen whatever, More power

639
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: to him, Alright. Moving on Reggie Bush, the Reggie Bush

640
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: hype train has rolled into San Francisco. NFL media insider

641
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport reported Saturday that the running back reached an

642
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: agreement with the Niners. Uh. This makes a interesting backfield

643
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Thirty year old Bush, along with second

644
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: year running back Carlos Hide as Frank Gore goes out

645
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: the door. Your thoughts, Lindsay Rhodes, Well, we'll see if

646
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: he can beat out Hunter or Hide and how he

647
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: fits into that mix. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe he

648
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: is stay healthy, Maybe he's at the point of his

649
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: career where that is where he's at that he's just

650
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: competing to play essentially. I think he has a chance, though,

651
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: to help them. Why not. I still think Hide is

652
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: who they're viewing as they're the guy's gonna lead. They'd

653
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: want to lead the way with Carry's big time and

654
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: you use Bush and certain ways. But Lindsay said it like,

655
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean in Detroit, the problem was you couldn't count

656
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: on Reggie Bush week to week injury wise. I mean,

657
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: is he as durable as he was? Like, they're not

658
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: going to ask him to be the lead guy anymore,

659
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: which is good. It's probably the first time in a

660
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: while where he's maybe the first time almost ever since

661
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: his early Saints days that I think everyone knows going

662
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: into the season he's not gonna have a monster role, right,

663
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: And I don't I think, and we're already seeing because

664
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: it was kind of a low key signing that you're

665
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: not going to get the offseason of puff pieces saying

666
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: how he's going to transform the offense and become the

667
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: guy that we thought he was going to be. Coming

668
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: out of USC. He's just kind of a guy could

669
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: be a helpful piece. I think if he stays healthy,

670
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: I think he could do something there. It's I don't know,

671
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: those occasional flashes, yeah, I mean he has those moments

672
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: last season and when he was healthy. He really is

673
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: hardly you know, a bummer anything. He's He's a good player.

674
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: He's just never gonna be the guy that people thought

675
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: he was gonna be. The Niners offense. By the way, Greg,

676
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think about where where

677
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: we're at right now? After all everything that's happening on

678
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: this team, what this offense looks like they are you

679
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: excited about it at all? It's strange. I'm more worried

680
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: about the coaching than anything because overall, you look at

681
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: what they've done this offseason. They lose Eye Party, they

682
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: they're going to lose crab Tree, but you get Tori Smith,

683
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: you get Reggie Bush to help replace Gore. It's not

684
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: like I think they're not talented. They have a good quarterback.

685
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm more worried about the fact that they're just promoting

686
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: up guys that were already in the building to be

687
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: their next coaches. Like so these guys are just the

688
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: guys that weren't as good as their last coaches. I guess,

689
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a strange sensation to the forty

690
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 1: Niners where I don't think it's gonna be easy for

691
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: them to remove kind of the the film of the

692
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: Harbaugh era until they actually win games, because it's hard

693
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: to buy into what they've done until they go out

694
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: and there three and two or four and one to

695
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: start the year. If they if they started opposite and

696
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: they're one and four and some of the problems that

697
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: the whole point. We've got to bring someone into fixed,

698
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, right, So you just promote someone that's been

699
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: working closely with kaepern all last season. That's a hard

700
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: sell to I think your fan base, who's wondering, wait,

701
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: why did you also just let this, you know, skis

702
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: him with Jim Harbaugh break up? What was a great thing.

703
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: In many ways, they're also wondering, why am I paying

704
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: eighteen dollars for a glass of wine at the stadium.

705
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: It's another really fair question. Um Alright, Speaking of the

706
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, Bush's former Lions teammate Nick Fairley is no

707
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: longer Detroit He is now with the St. Louis Rams.

708
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: He signs a one year what they call a prove

709
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: a deal five million, with a chance to reach up

710
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: to seven and a half million with incentives. According to

711
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: rap sheet Um, Westling wrote up this post Who knows

712
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 1: where Westling is right now? By the way, he said,

713
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: he's reading yea, he's on the phone with a flawed

714
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: woman or reading about a flawed woman in research. He

715
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I feel like he's researching part of his read. People

716
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: still talk on the phones with other people if you're

717
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: you have I mean, you make calls to like like

718
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: in this Westling scenario, could he possibly be talking on

719
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: the phone to like a girl that he doesn't know

720
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: that Well, you've got to be talking to people on

721
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: the phone if you're if you're single, you're gonna have

722
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: to be a couple of phone calls at least. Can't

723
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: all be happening on I M s with an you know,

724
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: no face to face interaction at all. Greg, You're probably

725
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: right though, I bet there's a lot of texting involved

726
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: prior to the first date really much. I just feel

727
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: like by the time you know, my kids are my age,

728
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know if people are going to

729
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: be talking on the phone. It's already kind of becoming

730
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: pass a just talking on the phone at all. How

731
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: many long conversations do you have on the phone at

732
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: this I already I openly judge, unless unless you're my mom,

733
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: who doesn't really get it at this point. But like,

734
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: if you're leaving voicemails at this stage, come on, no

735
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: more voicemails. It's over for the voicemail. The phone call

736
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: is still kind of in the mix, but really it's

737
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: a it's a texting world. FaceTime is good, though. I

738
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: got viciously dumped in fifth grade for being way ahead

739
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: of the curve and never calling this girlfriend I had

740
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: in fifth grade, and her the read to call me

741
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: up and say, do you know how this works? You're

742
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 1: supposed to call my sister like once every couple of weeks,

743
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, I honestly did not know I

744
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: was supposed to do that. Dumped the next day. But

745
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: seeing a creepy brother, why is the brother giving you,

746
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, advice the day before you get dumped, I

747
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I had a babysitter at my house, so

748
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm operating in so many difference like, I'm

749
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: not an adult. I have people telling me I should

750
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: be calling. It's like, if you really want to get

751
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: busy with my fifth grade sister, here's what you got

752
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: to do. I don't know. That's what Greg, this is

753
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: a family podcast. Little inappropriate on your part. You're also

754
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: our supervisor, so we looked to you for guidance. Anyway,

755
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: So I started a lot about Cessler. By the way,

756
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: how I just learned a lot. Well, he was a

757
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: lothario in middle apparently not Mark peaked as a ladies

758
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: man and about eleventh grade. I think we've talked about

759
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: this before. I don't agree with that, Okay, I do.

760
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean I that's when I peeked was high school.

761
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: That's your narrative. Dan tried to paint me that way.

762
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: That's not so. I brought up West initially because I

763
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: just wanted to mention what he wrote about Nick Fairley,

764
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: which said when when he's motivated, in in shape, and

765
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: that's important with Nick Fairley, he's one of the most

766
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: disruptive interior pass rushers in the league. But he also

767
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: West called him highly inconsistent, prone to ill time penalties,

768
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: and an off the field of risk, which explains why

769
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: teams were reluctant, reluctant to commit to a long term deal.

770
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: So but now you add Nick fairly to a St.

771
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: Louis Rams defensive line that was already pretty nasty, very nasty,

772
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: and the Rams have something cooking. If Nick Foles can

773
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: do something, that defense is sick, right. I mean, put

774
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: him alongside Donald and Brocker's and Quinn and Long and

775
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: that's a list of name like a lot. That seems

776
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: to be their strategy. We will just get fifteen or

777
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: twenty defensive linemen in here and come in third in

778
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: the NFC West. Hopefully that's good enough for a wild card.

779
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: That is not that's not a bad strategy if you can't.

780
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to find a quarterback. I mean

781
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: they had at the number one going to draft and

782
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback and even that didn't work out. I mean,

783
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: this is probably this is the next best strategy. This

784
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: is it, by the way, because less Need Everyone loves

785
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: less Need and Jeff Fisher and they've been able to

786
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: coast with a bunch of seven and nine seasons eight

787
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: and eight because people like what they do in the trap.

788
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: But this is the year with the Niners in flux

789
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: and potentially taking a step back. The Rams gotta make

790
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: a play. Rams gotta win ten games this year. Ram's

791
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: gotta get in the playoffs and be a team that's

792
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: actually in the rise and not just one that is

793
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: an offseason darling that never actually does anything. At some point, Yes,

794
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: the Jeff Fisher might have to carve out another winning

795
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: season until to avoid ten more years of criticism because

796
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: he's friends with everyone in the media. That's going to

797
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: have to happen. Fairly to the point though, that you

798
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: made about when he's motivated or I guess that West

799
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: made in his article, but I took credit for it.

800
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: M hmm. So it looks like right now he is,

801
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 1: he is motivated. Wasn't something to prove and is in shape? Yeah?

802
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: Wasn't it something with him last year that he was

803
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: like to hind you or he was at some weight

804
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the offseason, but then the next

805
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: time he showed up it was forty pounds. Then when

806
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: he showed up for training camp, he was like thirty pounds.

807
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, back then this is when you have to

808
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: worry about The Rams don't have to worry about it, probably,

809
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: but the team after he has a great year with

810
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: the Rams and he signs a four year, thirty seven

811
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: million dollar deals. Team's gotta worry. You're gonna get the

812
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: yo yo dieting Nick Ferry. Right, That's why I love

813
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: I love this one too. I like the talented kind

814
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: of knuckle heads for lack of a better word, well,

815
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: you love have a whole roster of the guys with

816
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: poor character and work ethics. Those well now well work ethic.

817
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: That's another issue. But if you're gonna win free agency,

818
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: you do it on these cheap one year deals. You

819
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: don't do it as the team like you said, that

820
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: signs the next big time deal, the Antonio Crimarti back

821
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: to the Jets deal. That's what you don't want, Okay, body,

822
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Uh moving forward, let's talk a little Cowboys. We know

823
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray is now a member of the Eagles. They

824
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: have at least replaced the DeMarco Murray in part by

825
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: signing Darren m McFadden. The former Raider is running back

826
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: who a deal on Friday worth up to five point

827
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: eight five million a two year deal. Uh. I don't imagine,

828
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: lindsay that this is gonna be the solution for the Cowboys. Right,

829
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: They're not just gonna say, oh, now you're gonna be

830
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden that we all thought he was gonna be

831
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: four years ago. They're going to get more than this. Yeah,

832
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if they watched him play fair question. I

833
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: mean it's this, You're right. I don't see this as

834
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: the answer at all. I think that they're just kind of, uh,

835
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: they're searching. It's a sign that Jerry Jones is still

836
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: making decisions because very general move. It's like Darren McFadden perfect, Yeah,

837
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: I mean he went he went to Arkansas. You know,

838
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: it's a chance for Jerry Jones to remind everyone that

839
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: he played college football at Arkansas too. It's like all

840
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna turn out to be great. Yeah.

841
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, good for you. Stand your ground and

842
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: you say, here's how much we're willing to pay you

843
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: to Marco Murray and we're not going to go at

844
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: time over it, and sorry, you're gonna go to Philadelphia

845
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: and now we're going to have to spend that much

846
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: money or more trying to uh fill your spot with

847
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of other signings. They're going to have to

848
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: go draft. They I think that's all we're hearing is

849
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: that they are, you know, heat seeking one or more

850
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: running backs in the draft, and that's still a risk.

851
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: And Adrian Peterson is hanging out there too, is another

852
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: potential option with an outrageous contract. In Jones' defense, like

853
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: they didn't give him much guaranteed money. It wouldn't shock

854
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: me if Darren mc fann didn't even make the team.

855
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they have Joseph Randall, that they draft a

856
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: couple of guys. Who knows. Maybe they add they've been

857
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: connected to Stephen Ridley. Maybe they signed Ridley to as

858
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: another guy who's just trying to make the team. So

859
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: it's not I don't really think, Sorry I just didn't

860
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: work out. Get off my bus. But I mean, you're

861
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: talking about replacing DeMarco Murray with a bunch of guys

862
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: that you're like, man, maybe I mean try and part

863
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 1: of it is like kind of placing that one guy

864
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: with a committee of guys. Part of it was when

865
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: Murray got into the flow early on last season was unstoppable.

866
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you walked away from what was a winning formula.

867
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: You know, what you don't like to do is go

868
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: into a draft knowing you need to find a starter

869
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: at a specific position. And I can actually remember an

870
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: exact example of this with the Alice Cowboys where they

871
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: had to get a starting running back in the first

872
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: round and they chose they either chose not to take

873
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson I don't remember, or he got taken before

874
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: them and they went with Felix Jones. I'm pretty sure

875
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: they actually chose Jones over Jackson. They said, this is

876
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: our guy, another Arkansas guy, and yeah, that's kind of

877
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: what happens when you need to find a starter. And

878
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: it was Barry. It was Barry Switzer who convinced them

879
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: to take to Marco Murray m tasty. Hey, let's talk

880
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: a little Cleveland Browns. Mark will start with Jordan Cameron,

881
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: who's no longer associated with the Browns. He signed with

882
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: the Dolphins a two year, fifteen million dollar deal. Uh.

883
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: This is after we thought, we saw reports, uh that

884
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: he was gonna be staying with the Browns, but then

885
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: actually the deal wasn't official. Ended up a member of

886
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and he gets some, from what we're seeing

887
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: reports today, some pretty good guaranteed money, I believe twelve

888
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: and a half million, which seems a lot for a

889
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: guy with serious concussion issues, but also the upsides there. Uh, Mark,

890
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: how upset are you that Jordan Cameron's no longer in Cleveland? Well?

891
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of any for a guy

892
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: that might be last year missed a major amount of

893
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: time because of concussion issues and feels like one of

894
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: those players. Sadly there might be one more head injury

895
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: away from it being over. Potentially, you just don't know.

896
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean you don't want to plan for players careers

897
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: that way. But the Dolphins gave him a lot of

898
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of scratch and I don't have a problem

899
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: with that deal not going Cleveland's way. How about Brown's

900
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: adding Ryan's Randy Starks and treymont Williams, two signings that

901
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: went down on Monday. Uh, they seen that though you

902
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: can get by those. It's been a down offseason for

903
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: the Browns. We all know that. Bad news. Uh, more

904
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: bad news, more bad news. But these are nice signings,

905
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: aren't they. Yeah? I think they're both good players. I

906
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't have mind getting them three years ago.

907
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: I think they're good. Second wave of free agency guys

908
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: like those are kind of two people we had circled.

909
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: We had them pretty high up in our ranking. Just like. Okay,

910
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: now that the first waves by those are those are

911
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: good values. You know you might be getting Dwyane Bow.

912
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: I gotta get excited for that Duane Bow Brian heartline,

913
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: now go for it. But it doesn't jogging up the field.

914
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of jogging, you're going to the owner's meeting soon, Mark, right, Yes,

915
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: that will be. That's true. Last year, Lindsay, you should

916
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: know that Mark and Greg went covered the event and

917
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: then it came out, came to light that they went

918
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: jogging together in the park. I was wondering how you

919
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: were going to tie those studgether yes, speaking, well, it

920
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: was a delightful day and we actually yeah, and it

921
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: was in Orlando at this massive complex. No, it was

922
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: a a running path for you know, I would never

923
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: be at a hotel like this again in our lives.

924
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: It was a crazy groundbreaking development for people to jog together,

925
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: to run together. That's that's where you're going with this. Uh,

926
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: the fact that we're describing what you did as jogging

927
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: instead of running, I just I think it's fair to

928
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: call it jogging. I like Sizzler and the Boss. First

929
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: of all, I want to know who whose idea was?

930
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: And then and then like, well, jeez, my my year

931
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: end reviews coming up. I better go. Well we also

932
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: so along the way if we had not done that,

933
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: we passed Anderson Cooper jogging right by us. So was it? Yeah,

934
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, just a lot of you, Anderson Cooper and

935
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: Greg all in the park jogging. That's good. That's a

936
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: good event. How do we differentiate between jogging and running?

937
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: I think what we were doing was would I'd be

938
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: hard pressed to call it running. We're rocking quickly, but bouncing.

939
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: We were running. We were doing whatever nine minute miles

940
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: up there. It wasn't that crazy, guys. I just want

941
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: to know who's go for a jog anymore? That feels

942
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: very ag Well, that's how you gotta put the rocky

943
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: music in the background. You both put on a paras

944
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: is the best thing. And I, by the way, I

945
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: found it to be the funniest thing ever. And then

946
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: the Twitter people on Twitter also founded to be quite amusing.

947
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 1: But this year Greg staying behind or and Mark going

948
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: to the owners meetings? Will you go yogging with? It's

949
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. It's probably a hundred and eight degrees. I'm

950
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: not sure. I will even go outside, got to be

951
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: mindful of your body. You could you could dog next

952
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: to each other on a treadmill. That's very possible. That

953
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: would be cute. I mean, yes, that would be very

954
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we can match, you know, the overall

955
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: scenario that was presented last year when Greg and I

956
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: did that. All right, Hey, let's talk about the Yeah,

957
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: all right. So there is a team in the NFL.

958
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: I've been told this in a pre production meeting called

959
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans to Tons two tunes. I'm not sure,

960
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: but they are a team, and they made some signings

961
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: of notable NFL players outside linebacker Brian A. Rackpo formerly

962
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: of the Redskins, and Derek Morrigan signed with the Titans.

963
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: Thirty million dollars for Morgan, thirty two million over four

964
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: years for IRAQ. Well, it's a lot of money. They

965
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: also reached contract with Ryan suck Up. Oh my goodness.

966
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of stuff going on in Tennis Cox.

967
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I only we put the news together today,

968
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure the Titans were in there,

969
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: just so you'd have to eat some crow that it's

970
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: a real NFL team. Dan and in two thousand and

971
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: fifty and you're gonna have to start recognizing them as

972
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: that jerk about it. But just you know, get on

973
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: the grid before I recognize that you're a team that's all. Well,

974
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: they're trying to I mean they are throwing a lot

975
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: of money at a lot Parish Cox got a lot

976
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: of cash, Lindsey, be honest, when next year, when you

977
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: are doing around the NFL and it's the Thursday that

978
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: the Titans are on NFL network, what's your excitement level?

979
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: Because there will They're definitely not gonna be on any

980
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: other network, so they'll put them on our network. You

981
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: are setting me up here. No one above the second

982
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: floor of this building listens to the show. You could

983
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: say anything you want right now. It's a trust tree.

984
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: I think every NFL game has plenty of reason for excitement.

985
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: There are lots of storylines to watch always. This is

986
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: why Lindsay will still be here in two thousand and

987
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: sixteen and the three of us may not be. Yeah,

988
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: if the if some other team the Patriots made these

989
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: moves to the Seahawks, everyone be like, oh, great bargains

990
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: on pass rushers or whatever. So you know, but they're

991
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: not all right, here we go. So finally, here we go.

992
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: Let's get to it. It's gonna be a major topic

993
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: on television, but right now we're just it's ending the news.

994
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow worked out for the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday.

995
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: According to rap sheet uh Tim Tebow, of course, has

996
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: not been in the NFL since August two thousand thirteen,

997
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: when he was cut by the Pats, hasn't thrown a

998
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: touchdown passed since his days with the Broncos, had that

999
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: wash out of a year in New York with the Jets,

1000
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: so he has a workout. We then had a a

1001
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: update on this we got right before we came upstairs

1002
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: that the Eagles have no imminent plans to sign Tebow

1003
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: following the workout. So it seems to be something Chip

1004
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: Kelly just, you know, basically doing a chippy thing, and

1005
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: I could do whatever I want. I'm gonna bring in

1006
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: old Tebow, kicked the tires and see what happens. Your thoughts, lindsay,

1007
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: you had some hot takes before we started. You were

1008
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: fired up. You're excited to talk about Tebow on the show.

1009
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: But no, well, okay, I didn't mean don't twist my words.

1010
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean, like that I don't know I'm saying in

1011
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: this particular case, because it's the Eagles, I think it's

1012
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: a valid conversation. If it's anybody else, then okay, yes,

1013
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: it's just we're throwing Tebow's name out for the sake

1014
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: of throwing Tim Tebow's name out. But because Chif Kelly

1015
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: during this off season has essentially said, Hey, all of

1016
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: you other thirty one NFL teams, I'm gonna do it

1017
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: totally differently all of the moves that he's made this

1018
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: offseason and really since he entered the league. But then

1019
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: he sort of reinvigorated that thought process this offseason with

1020
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: the way that he's treated free agency and such. It

1021
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: makes this a little bit more interesting because it feels

1022
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: like Chip Kelly saying, Hey, I've seen what he's done

1023
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I think that I might be

1024
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: able to fix it potentially. I think that's what makes

1025
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: it interesting, because I don't think there are very many

1026
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: teams in the league that would bring in Tim Tebow

1027
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: different reasons, even for a workout. There was a report

1028
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: in The Boston Globe last week that he had been

1029
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: worked training with Tom Eighties, personal coach for the last

1030
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: two years and apparently the coaches was confident that he

1031
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: now knows how to throw a football. Yeah, but that

1032
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: wasn't always. That wasn't the only It wasn't the fact

1033
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: that Tim Tebow couldn't throw spirals or had an awkward wine.

1034
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean, why is it scary?

1035
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: He's played in the NFL for three years as a quarterback,

1036
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, like the sales pitches, he knows that will

1037
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: throw a ball now, guys, Yeah, I mean it was

1038
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: always the accuracy and he just never he never carried

1039
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: himself like a quarterback on any level. He just had

1040
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: some big moments and and it took off culturally in

1041
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: a really bizarre way. I still it still feels like

1042
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: a fever dream, the tebow Mania thing. But this guy

1043
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: was never a real quarterback. No. And even Chip Kelly

1044
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: said it, yeah a few years ago when talking about

1045
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: quarterback position, saying like, we're not gonna have that kind

1046
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: of quarterback that can't throw like Tim Tebow essentially, and

1047
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: he actually twisting the words a little bit, but we

1048
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: are not a Tim Tebow type of quarterback team. I'm

1049
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: not going to run my quarterback twenty times on power runs.

1050
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: He said that back in two thousand eleven while was

1051
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: the coach of Oregon. But it just showed kind of

1052
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: where his headspace is at and what kind of what

1053
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: he looks for in a passer. He was trying to

1054
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: make a statement there too, that he wasn't going to

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00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: do what everybody thought he was going to do when

1056
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: he came into the NFL. But I think it's interesting.

1057
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, at the very at the very least, I

1058
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't sign Tebow if I was an NFL coach because

1059
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: even if you thought, Okay, here's a look at his

1060
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: specific skill set and maybe I might be able to

1061
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: use him in a package here or two, all of

1062
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: the stuff that comes along with that is a nightmare.

1063
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: And I think the answer to that is a resounding though.

1064
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: And if you're Mark Sanchez, are you like, dude, can

1065
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: I just play with my friends? Can you leave me

1066
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: a lot? Like the snagging little brother follows him around?

1067
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: He deserves better than that. It doesn't look like it's

1068
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: gonna have about being Matt Barkley. There's a report that

1069
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: you know he's now on the trade block, that you're

1070
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: the guy that's on the trade block. While they're trying

1071
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: out Tim Tebow well, and why not because he's not.

1072
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: He's not shown any evidence of being an NFL sting

1073
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: into him other than he did draft Matt Barkley. But

1074
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like he believes in him too much.

1075
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, have a problem with Tebow getting a tryout, though,

1076
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: especially after like he's working and working. So many junk

1077
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get off season tryouts that it's not like he's

1078
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: below that line. And honestly, I think Tebow has Billy

1079
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: Is more. He has more athletic gifts than a number

1080
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: of guys that were on rosters or practice squads last year.

1081
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: It's a little strange that he didn't even latch on

1082
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: anywhere in any capacity except for the exact reason you mentioned,

1083
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: the baggage that a lot of clubs probably just don't

1084
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: want to deal with. Well, but if he loves, if

1085
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: he really wanted to play football, he could go play

1086
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: football somewhere. He could play in the CFL, he could

1087
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: play in the a f L. But he's on saying

1088
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: good morning America, right is he on Good Morning? He's

1089
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: working with SEC Network for ESPN, but he's also I

1090
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: think he's based in l A right now. He's enjoying

1091
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: being Tim Tebow, which which totally makes sense, and he's

1092
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: doing other stuff off the field, but like if he

1093
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: wanted to, like Kurt Warners said it taking his bit basically,

1094
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: like if that was your dream in the world to

1095
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: be a quarterback, it's like you could go play quarterback somewhere.

1096
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: But the point being he is he did just spend

1097
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: months and months working out to improve where that thing

1098
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: would have been, that ship should have sailed if he

1099
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: really thought this thing's over. You know, I haven't played

1100
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: in two seasons. He does seem plugged in to some

1101
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: degree to want to make a comeback. I just think

1102
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: that the window for him versus another even a guy

1103
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: like Josh Freeman may even be thinner because of how

1104
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: many worked out. Freven worked out with the Jets. It's

1105
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: like that guy you would think is gonna get no looks,

1106
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: but even he's getting looks. So anyone could, Dan, you

1107
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: could probably go try out with one of these teams

1108
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: if you really really wanted it. I will, all right,

1109
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: Can we stop talking about Let's go on alright your topic.

1110
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: He's I got t Bow, he shattered the mold and

1111
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: all he does. Sorry, I just had to do that.

1112
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: That is apparently a collection of uh skip Bayless, Skip

1113
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: Bayless on Tim Tebow set to auto tune. All right,

1114
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: that's all right, so let's now go to our speed round.

1115
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: Good job there, indulge you a little bit there, but

1116
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: we like, uh, let's hit the speed round, Lindsay, here

1117
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: are the rules of the speed round. It is. We're

1118
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna fly through about eight topics, one comment each and

1119
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: uh and we've struggled with this struggled West, who we

1120
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: love dearly as a man who is very uh. He

1121
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: likes to get his thoughts out, so he struggles on

1122
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: the speed round one sentence. That's it. Now we've been

1123
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: playing the Benny Hill music for the speed round. I

1124
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: thought it's time to change it up, change the energy

1125
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: in the room, and Darude, Sandstorm feels like it would

1126
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: do it. Are we ready with the speed round? Lindsay, roads,

1127
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: I know this feels like it's a rave in two thousands.

1128
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a club dancing to Sandstorm?

1129
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: This is here we go starting the speed round. Wait,

1130
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: I want to start the right. It's a really slow

1131
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: start to the speed round. Wait for it. That's where

1132
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: you got the glow sticks just gone nuts. I have

1133
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: another show to do in a few minutes. There we go. Sorry.

1134
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: Christian Ponder signs with the Oakland Raiders. Mark, what don't

1135
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: care at all? Does he have a future? No? Alright, Mark,

1136
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean Lindsey match Shop. Cut by the Raiders. Is

1137
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: this the end of the line from that job? Because

1138
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: everybody needs backup quarterback? Tell me where he signs. Let's

1139
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: be around your club for men. Red Redskins agreed a

1140
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: four year deal with Chris Culliver. Greg seems like a

1141
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: lot of money. Thirty two million for Chris Culliver. You

1142
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: like the Scott mclewin moves that they're making bringing the

1143
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 1: old forty niners? Alright, Greg Jennings released by the Minnesota Vikings. Mark,

1144
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: we'll find another job, sure. I mean he's someone that

1145
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: they'll bring in as a starter. Really last past August

1146
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: will find out alright, Alright, very good, Lindsey Rams bringing

1147
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: back Kenny britt On the two year deal. Had a

1148
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: nice bounce back season last year. Smart to keep him

1149
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: in the building. Someone's got to catch the ball, alright.

1150
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: Steelers signed former paplor ded'angelo Williams. Didn't even have a

1151
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: tank for D'Angelo. Greg Now, I think he's gonna have

1152
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: a Lagarrett blunt like Steelers run. Michael Johnson returns to

1153
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals on a four year deal after a huge

1154
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: bus season. Uh Mark in Tampa. Nice moved by the

1155
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: safe I mean he was. He had a good season

1156
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, with bad tape last year

1157
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 1: and finally Greg Rex Ryan Bills signed QB. Tyrod Taylor

1158
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: gets you excited. It gets me excited that they're saying

1159
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor has a chance to start enjoy that Buffalo

1160
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: Bill's face. Oh my god. And that's it. That's it

1161
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: for the Speed Round. Special thanks to rout and special

1162
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: thanks to Lindsay Rhodes for sitting in for a second.

1163
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I mean it turns up the heat.

1164
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: It feels hotter in here now. But that's what we

1165
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: have to do in the Speed Round. Do we not

1166
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: owe like hundreds of thousands of dollars for just playing

1167
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: like a minute and a half of that song? Sorry, uh, Lindsay,

1168
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: thank you very much. You now you have to go

1169
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: over to the t A, the flagship program of NFL

1170
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: Network where you'll be hosting today. So thank you very

1171
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: much for sitting in next time I come back, nickname.

1172
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited we will be and that's important. That is

1173
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: the most important thing. Greg. You should take note of

1174
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: that as well. I think about you a lot more

1175
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: than I used to. I'll take it. I'll take anything

1176
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: I can guess, y'all all right, So we'll be back

1177
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. West will be back in the chair. Thank

1178
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: you for listening. This is Dan Hansis signing off for

1179
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: the Quiet Storm, Lindsay Rhodes and the Boss and the

1180
00:57:54,600 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: gold Standard behind the Glass until Wednesday.