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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is not a first round round.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis. I come to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room build with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Well,

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Speaker 1: boys happened. Um remember Frank the Tank from that movie

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Speaker 1: Old School Sure, and when he said he had a

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Speaker 1: nice little saturday coming up, and um he said he's

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Speaker 1: going to Home Depot and all the frat brothers laughed

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Speaker 1: at him. And I remember watching that film as a

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Speaker 1: twenty three year old and being like, man, that guy's finished.

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Speaker 1: Well that was my entire weekend. I made two trips

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Speaker 1: to home Depot. I didn't even use the shopping car

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Speaker 1: to use the big one, the big like kind of

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Speaker 1: sorts of things like that. My in laws are in

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Speaker 1: town and my my father in law is extremely crafty.

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Speaker 1: As we work on this new home. Um, so all

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Speaker 1: sorts of projects, man, all sorts of projects. I mean ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: changing filters, doing some light carpentry, building railing, staining wood,

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Speaker 1: tending to a garden, installing locks, handles, sweeping, raking. Enjoyment

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Speaker 1: out of this or I do. It really is um

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Speaker 1: a challenge, this thing, this new world I'm in of homeownership,

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Speaker 1: but it is rewarding when you finish the job. The

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Speaker 1: thing about it is, though, and anyone that is listening

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Speaker 1: right now that owns their own home, well undoubtedly agree,

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Speaker 1: it never stops. You finished one project and then the

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Speaker 1: next one comes in, the next one comes, So I

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Speaker 1: understand that's part of it too, But uh yeah, nice

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Speaker 1: little Saturday. I mean the laundry list of activities that

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Speaker 1: you listed are probably on the lowest um end of

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Speaker 1: the spectrum of things that I'm skilled at. I'm not

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Speaker 1: skilled at those things neither. And you know what's interesting

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Speaker 1: about this stuff, like you come out of these weekends

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Speaker 1: and bolden, like I have all these bricks randomly that

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Speaker 1: looking at, oh, can I brick and mortar in the

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Speaker 1: front of this house. It's like, no, you can't. But

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Speaker 1: you start to feel like you have the ability, and

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Speaker 1: I guess with practice and reps you do become more handy.

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Speaker 1: Because I could speak for myself and probably the the

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Speaker 1: total of the Around the NFL podcast, we're not like

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Speaker 1: the manliest men when it comes to you know, working

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Speaker 1: kind of coming from behind and we're on the comeback

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Speaker 1: trail though, or at least I am. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I am not. If we go to home depot, I

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Speaker 1: just distract the kids for as long as we're there

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Speaker 1: so Amaica can do all the buying and doing whatever

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Speaker 1: is going on. But that's why you know, I'm team

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Speaker 1: team Rent here. I don't have to worry about that stuff.

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Speaker 1: My perfect weekend day is is an overcast, not sunny

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Speaker 1: each day. You get there as early as possible, you

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Speaker 1: you spend the time at the beach, you leave maybe

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Speaker 1: That's a perfect Saturday for me, and I've done it weekly.

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Speaker 1: I would say during the pandemic it's been, I would

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Speaker 1: I would put myself in the category that's probably um

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Speaker 1: Dan is clearly pleased the wife with this home purchase.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're a you're an all star category at

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Speaker 1: this point, and you've crossed over to a certain world

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Speaker 1: you for the most part um. Greg's activities outside of

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Speaker 1: the pleasing wife variety and himself. But I mean it

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Speaker 1: aligns um. I don't feel to be part of either

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Speaker 1: I think that ties into it's a generational thing because

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Speaker 1: our parents are all buying their first homes when they

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Speaker 1: our generation, at least in this country, like it's almost

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Speaker 1: Just three heroes and Ricky. I see Ricky as a

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Speaker 1: hero as well. Heroin, Heroin is that in place? Still?

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Speaker 1: But Heroin is is great in multiple ways, as you know,

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Speaker 1: to describe a woman hero come in here, I mean

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Speaker 1: at its base, it's a compliment. I mean it's not

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Speaker 1: you're not taking a jab at someone. But yet Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: Well played, well played. Um, all right, thanks for stopping

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Speaker 1: in Erica. All right, today's show. Um, we are going

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Speaker 1: to have some fun again. This is on my radars.

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Speaker 1: I think it's on everyone's radar. Uh. This the seventeen

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Speaker 1: game season. Yes, it's more football, um, but it's hard

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Speaker 1: to like kind of look at certain things the same way. So,

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Speaker 1: for instance, we're gonna talk about some PF Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus uh release their latest wind projections for each of

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Speaker 1: the thirty two teams, and it's it's just messing with

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Speaker 1: win ten games. Oh that's a that's a good season.

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Speaker 1: now that's a tenant seventh season. Nine wins. No, that's

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Speaker 1: a nine and eight season. What does it even mean anymore?

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Speaker 1: do some news. Ricky hit it seven ten. Come on,

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Speaker 1: man ten The seven ten only been made on television

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Speaker 1: Come on it, sad, Ginger Assassin, just drop the sevoton.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the ginger Assassin. They call him. Eighteen year

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Speaker 1: on television? Good Ricky? Can you get me his actual name?

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Speaker 1: Although ginger Assassin is an incredible name name, and maybe

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Speaker 1: young man. I mean he's got to assassinate some people

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Speaker 1: to get that. The bowler is clearly assassinated. Are you

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Speaker 1: watching bowling or something this week? And after the Celtics game,

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Speaker 1: what's going on with the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: much either that you know, for for like big time

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00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: college quarterbacks that they're in a different category too, and

427
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: they have their own questions with scheme and like the

428
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: you know how much the scheme helped how much they played,

429
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: and and for Wilson, like the opponents, So to me,

430
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, these guys just like look awesome. That

431
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: the quality of like the talent in terms of just

432
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: like physicality and your arm strength lan lance to me

433
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: as as a good enough more than a good enough

434
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: arm It's like they all look like great a prospects,

435
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: but you just figure some of these teams are gonna

436
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 1: totally botch this. You called him a black box candidate.

437
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. You know, with the black

438
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: box that that's usually something you don't learn what happened

439
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: until you're digging through the wreckage of the airplane. So

440
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: saying kind of pointing your prediction in analysis here in

441
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: a certain direction. Now, I kind of I'm really interested

442
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: in Traleiance just because no one seems to know much

443
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: about him, and he just seems to be the guy

444
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: that's getting ignored in this process, even though you know

445
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: he's pretty fascinating just his athleticism and where he comes from.

446
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: The black box thing is more like, how do people

447
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: really know how he's going to translate? It's a pretty

448
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: big projection, Josh Allen, Maybe is a good comparison, is that?

449
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: Is that what you just said? Yeah? Right, as a

450
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: as a prospect, that makes a lot of sense to

451
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: me because I think he was a really tough one

452
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: to know how he would fit at the next level.

453
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: I really polarizing uh prospect last year justin Herbert And

454
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: you know my team has the number two over all

455
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: overall pick. I'm probably gonna be rooting for Zack Wilson

456
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: next year. Would I like if he had another full

457
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: college season and all that stuff? Sure, But at the

458
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: same time, it just feels like it's all this is

459
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: a crapshoot really, no matter what. So I don't feel

460
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: like the Jets are in some type of or these

461
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: other teams are in a total disaster situation because you

462
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: could do all the research and watch all that tape

463
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: you want, but when the lights go on week one

464
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: or whenever these guys get the chance, that's when you

465
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: finally see whether they can. You know, Greg play the guitar,

466
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: moving on. A lot of guitar playing on this show,

467
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: like the football would be preferable. But we should get

468
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: when you get my brother Dean. You know, Dean went

469
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: to college for a guitar. You wanna you wanna see

470
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: the tape, the Delaware tapes. Forget about that. We got

471
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: a lot of Dean Rosenthal tapes playing all I would

472
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: like to see tapes Western mass um, you know, not forgetting,

473
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: but also some like cover cover songs of like kiss

474
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: and uh you know Ugly Kid Joe and guns and

475
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: you're an A plus deflector. But Dan and I are

476
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: not off the case on the Delaware tapes, nor will

477
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: we ever be off the case. And I know, I

478
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: know on your other podcast your best buddies like a

479
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: legit celebrity and you guys do your comedy thing. I

480
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: if the Delaware tapes ever service on that show and

481
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: not on this one, this whole thing is over. We

482
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: are folding up shop. That that is, that is that

483
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: would never occur to me now, I would not do

484
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: that to you. That's also grimy at giving Greg incredible

485
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: power over our careers. Dan, I don't know. I might

486
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: return to still do an episode. Um alright, Uh, I

487
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: was just saying, oh up next? All right, this again,

488
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: Josina Anderson reports free agent defensive Enjadavion Clowney is visiting

489
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: the Browns. Does this sound familiar? Yes, it does sound

490
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: familiar because he already did meet with the Browns. I

491
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: don't know if it's virtual or in person, but this

492
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: is back in March. No deal, and can we just

493
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: and don't take this personally, Mark, It's not about your

494
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: favorite team. Can we please just signed with the Browns

495
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: already so everybody can get all excited about their HiPE

496
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: Bunny Browns and how Clowney is going to be a

497
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: US from Miles Garrett and that's gonna unlock this magic

498
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: that we've been waiting. Can just do it already, Just

499
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: sign and then let people start writing those articles and

500
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: then we could let the games play out and then

501
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: Garrett has a great ear and Clowney gets hurt and

502
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: does nothing. Can we just speed the process along here

503
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: just a little bit, Ricky Plee And I know this

504
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: is a personal sun fire because I don't want to

505
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys want to do more of these, but

506
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: I want to fire this. Where's Dadavian Clowney story going

507
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: into the sun because nobody needs nobody needs this much

508
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: speculation considering the production. I'm sorry, into the Sun us

509
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: let me know where he is. I mean, you know

510
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: they also met last offseason, so this this is um

511
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: an elongated flirtation. I find I find it ponderous, but

512
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: um to me, it tells me more about maybe what

513
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: they think about where are they picking the draft, Um,

514
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: the edge rusher position in the draft, which is certainly

515
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: missing a Miles Garrett type character. Um, you know, pushing

516
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: better guys down the list, like maybe they want to

517
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: go into the draft with this position sealed up so

518
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: they can take a cornerback or the best player available.

519
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: But but I'm with you, Dan, I find it juicy though,

520
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: if my team signs the player that really, Um, I

521
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: can't think of too many players that you're more happily

522
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: antagonistic toward, and not without reason, but that, but the

523
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: but the matt the whole scenario there, um, I find compelling.

524
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: If that, if it happens your friend Andrew Barry the GM,

525
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: this is what if I had a direct line to him,

526
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: if I could tap into the g M app if

527
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: it existed. If you do sign and you will sign

528
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney for a one year team friendly deal with

529
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: nice and sent incentives to the player if he stays

530
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: on the field and makes plays, do not say I

531
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: have defensive end opposite of Myles Garrett covered and I

532
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it, And I could turn

533
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: my attention to other positions in the draft. That would

534
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: be a mistake. Signing him would not solve any issues.

535
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Why don't you just put back Olivia Vernon? What's going

536
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: on with his achilles? Well? I thought Vernon like like

537
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: closed the season very well and what's actually though right

538
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: at the end, so that he's just off the table

539
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think it solves like the position,

540
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: but I think they're probably just thinking. I think it's

541
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: incredible upside. I think it's incredible upside. And if you

542
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: take out last year, he has been very consistent overall.

543
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's maybe he hasn't like the transformative number

544
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: one overall pick, but he's better than most number one

545
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: overall picks, and he's and he's had a pretty consistent

546
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: career until last year. I do wonder. I think it

547
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: says more about the type of we just got we

548
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: got no news to talk about. Justin Houston's visiting the Ravens.

549
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Throw that in there. We just got nothing to talk about.

550
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: There's no there's no news right now. Nobody wants to

551
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: pay this guy. It took forever for the Titans to

552
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: finally give him that one year deal, and now I

553
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: think in April, I think the way he plays and

554
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: the lingering injuries that he's played through. Our serious concern

555
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: because he plays, he's kind of like the running back

556
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: that takes two hundred and fifty hits every year. Is

557
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: his career gonna be shortened? And I think that was

558
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: the concern for Clowney, and it's kind of coming out

559
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: that way after last season, so I get the concern too. Anyway,

560
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: I apologize if I got a little fired up there,

561
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: but you know, it's wait until he signs, But wait

562
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: until Thursday when he's by then he will have signed,

563
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna give the exact same analysis. I know,

564
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: but let's just not do another Clowny story until that

565
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: signing happens. And um, he was the first overall pick

566
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: and I believe two thousand fourteen, right, m hm, that's right.

567
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: And this started in July two thou thirteen, So it's like,

568
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been talking about this guy for

569
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: a long time for somebody that's never had ten sacks

570
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: in a season. Anyway, all right, UM, I hope he

571
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: signs with the Jets, actually, because then you're gonna be

572
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: in a really weird place. He won't. Joe Dougles is

573
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: too smart for that. I trust you, Joe. Kevin James

574
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: will play Sean Payton in a Happy Madison picture. Happy

575
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Madison is the production company owned by Adam Sandler, and

576
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler has a extended deal with Netflix to put

577
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: together these movies with his buddies and uh put them

578
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: on Netflix and they apparently do pretty well regardless of

579
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: their artistic achievement. Uh. And Kevin James, the uh full

580
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: figured uh comedic actor playing Sean Payton in a movie.

581
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: What do you think about this? Well? I think I

582
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: think if I'm Kevin James and I'm reading Peter King

583
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: right about it, and like the one thing Kevin that

584
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: Peter King mentions is, well, Kevin James is gonna have

585
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: to lose some weight for this wrong. I'm thinking like,

586
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like who are you? Who are you to talk?

587
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: First of all, and you're just talking about me like that?

588
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, Sean Payton, like Kevin James, if

589
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna go there, uh, if I fluctuated over the years,

590
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: certainly he can be like jacked at times, and he

591
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: can he can look like the coach at the end

592
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: of the season and like his old coordinator Rob Ryan.

593
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: It can go back and forth, and King also was

594
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: wrong in not understanding the the business involved here again,

595
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Happy Madison. They don't really care what what kind of

596
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: project they're putting together. They're just getting their buddies together.

597
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: There's no like I need to dedicate for this role

598
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: to play Sean Payton. Kevin James is gonna stay exactly

599
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: on his diet and cash the paycheck and do the

600
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: movie and then like a bunch of people, watch on

601
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: Netflix and that'll be it. Watch it now. I don't

602
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: think they were going for like the realistic, most realistic

603
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: looking Sean Payton casting choice, because Greg is right, there

604
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: was a period, it was around or so that Sean Payton,

605
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: who is now fifty eight so this is not easy

606
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: to do, transformed his body and became um, legit muscular like.

607
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: He looked awesome. Uh and I think that's Wayne since then,

608
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: but he is not young. But this happened in two

609
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: thousand twelves. So you have to cast someone that looks

610
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: like I mean he did back then. He didn't really

611
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: have gray hair back then. Um, he was a different

612
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: looking guy. It's about that, It's about bounty Gate. Well,

613
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: it's it's about the it's about the season it Bounty Gator,

614
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: I assume will be like the almost the preface to it,

615
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: and it's about the season he spent away from the

616
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 1: game that he coaches his kids team and you know,

617
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: learned to love again. It is kind of funny though,

618
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: that the whole precursor of that is like, you know,

619
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: getting suspended for for taking kill shots on a quarterback.

620
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, there was a pretty well reported,

621
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: like you know, drug um controversy that to me, I

622
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: always felt was part of Bounty Gate of like, you

623
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: know them the Saints got in a little trouble with

624
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: some how they were using prescription drugs, but that probably

625
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: is going to be glossed over in this movie. I

626
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: do have some Paul the Paul Blart Mall cop actor

627
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: Kevin James probably not going to hit the drug abuse

628
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of professional football angle very hard, I

629
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: don't think so. I do have some casting choices for you, though,

630
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: which I mentioned. I would this kind of well it

631
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: did kind of just said is this is it just

632
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: for giving it to your friends? So I want to

633
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: throw and we could get Ricky in here if she

634
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: wants to do I show are you well THEREK so

635
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: here it is. I would say that the vast majority

636
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: of who I'm going to mention you would just know

637
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: their household names. But there's a couple where I heard

638
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: the name, but I'm not sure I could put a

639
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Speaker 1: face to it. So I wanted to help you out there. Um,

640
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: you can just sort of tell me yes or no.

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00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: Well I wasn't necessarily going there first, Ricky, but we

642
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: can list. Well, it's okay, So let's let's just say

643
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: if you want to look, I'm gonna start with a

644
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: couple of people that I think you could make look

645
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: like Sean Payton, Daniel Craig. We could start with I

646
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: understand that he's like a super hottie, but well he's fine, okay,

647
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: But I mean you sort of perceived that way if

648
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: you if you dressed him up as Sean Payton, I

649
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: think you've got a more Sean paytonist look than Kevin

650
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: James there, and you know what you say. When he

651
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: was cast as James Bond, and he was an excellent Bond,

652
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: some of the criticism was that he wasn't quite photogenic

653
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: enough to pull off James Bond, who's like a supposed

654
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: to be a suave Pierce Brasen in type. So yes,

655
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: I think you can put him in the Sean Payton world.

656
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: I like that one. Okay, Um, I'm just gonna throw

657
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: this name out. There's no photo or maybe there is

658
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Greg Knear. There's no photo of Greg Knier on the internet. Well, no, no,

659
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: there is there is one too. They are the same age. Um.

660
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: I think you know this movie is gonna have You're

661
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a little bit dramatic in terms

662
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: of the backdrop. Greg mentioned what you're in chaos in

663
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: a way of Sean Payton during this year of your life,

664
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: and then something good has to come out of it.

665
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: Greg Knear can kind of rainbow through that whole arc

666
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: of emotions. I like him is probably available because I

667
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: feel like it hasn't been too hot since as good

668
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: as it gets overall, he seems to be Also, he

669
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: could play you. I mean he's like a little like

670
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: hotter version of you, Mark. So I like that as well.

671
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: I like that underrated. Can hear you know a lot

672
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: of range talk soup to dramatic stuff. Let's let's do

673
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: it not much Steve the Pirate and Dodgeball. Can he

674
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: command the room? Can he command an NFL locker room,

675
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: greg Nar that that's part of it, that's part but

676
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: he also is not with an NFL locker room, and

677
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: can he commands six graders? I think, yeah, how about

678
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: this Alan tow Dick, let's throw that up there. Ricky,

679
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: you're going These are the ones where I'm going for looks.

680
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. That Steve the Pirate

681
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: from Dodge. He's He's been in lots of stuff, but okay,

682
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: this one, I think if you look at Sean Payton's

683
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: facial structure. Um, Greg German, who was famous for Allan mcgeel,

684
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: no one knows who these guys are. I know him.

685
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's a he's a been around the block

686
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: TV actor. Absolutely absolutely, Um, Steve's on. I threw in

687
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: there as a possibility because now he's a little bit older.

688
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: The age is not um that far apart. Plus, this

689
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: is a comedic film most likely, and he's done comedic

690
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: work okay, and he's a New Orleans guy. Did Tremay.

691
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: He was very good in Tremay act. He also seems

692
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: available to me. Um, Now these ones are just more

693
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: more hussel names. Yeah, well we can just script to these.

694
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you have photos of these, Woody Harrelson,

695
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: you could do anything. I would watch that. I think

696
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: you need some pop. Kevin James at least, you know,

697
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: to each his own. He's got pop, he's got a

698
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: fan base. I think that's good. That's why guy maybe

699
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: not so much what you hosing? Yeah, we could worry. Yeah,

700
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: that's why I'm going into more movie star world here.

701
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: Now this is these ones are not for looks so much.

702
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: But Steve Correll, how would he not do a great

703
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: job at this? Um? Now, it doesn't seem like a

704
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: football coach. Okay, so we're we gotta know there. That's

705
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: we're batting a pretty good batting average here so far.

706
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: How about um, Dennis Quaid if he were maybe a

707
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: little younger. All right, okay, so that's a no. Um

708
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: if you really go and you've been going heavy Quaid lately,

709
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever you're talking. Whenever there's like conversations

710
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: about a sports movie, everyone's like about Dennis Quaide, it's like,

711
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: all right, let's just well, I was trying to please

712
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: that per part of the room. If someone's looking for

713
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: that kind of guy, this guy may be also a

714
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: little overexposed right now. But Chris Pratt, if you really

715
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: wanted to pull in like a certain audience, M too

716
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: young though a little too young. Yeah, how about this, um,

717
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Sean Penn, I want to see that. I want to

718
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: see that movie. I think it'll be an insane movie.

719
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Sean Penn playing, I think, yeah, I watched in a

720
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: Happy Madison production that that that's interesting. I'm interesting, I'm intrigued.

721
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: That's good. The last person I would note, because this

722
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: is where we are in a society at this point.

723
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: Of course, he could do this. Sean Payton plays himself

724
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: unsolved mystery style. Okay, I mean, you know, I need

725
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: to know the tone of the film. He's providing notes.

726
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a happy you know, it's

727
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: it's teaching kids and learning life lessons, and he's grumpy

728
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: at the beginning, and then he has some high jinks

729
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: with the kids and that that connects him to the

730
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: love of the game. Shot. That's why Sean Penn would

731
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: be at once the worst possible choice and and the

732
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: one I would want to watch because I heard John

733
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: Penn lately on like a podcast and he seems off

734
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: his rocker at this point. He seems a little, he

735
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: seems out there. The novel that he wrote sounds like

736
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: the thing I like to read. The last thing I

737
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: would ever want to read is Sean Penn's novel Um

738
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: And just you know, one bit of unsolicited advice to

739
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler, when when you're casting really anyone and you're

740
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: forced to choose every time between Kevin James, Rob Schneider

741
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: and David Spade, you've probably boxed yourself in a little.

742
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: Let's just open up the net over at Happy Madison Productions.

743
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean that would have been true fifteen years ago,

744
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: so it's even um doubly true now. So um too

745
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: quick news items for we get to the PFF win projections. First,

746
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: the Cardinals who traded for DeAndre Hopkins last season, they

747
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: fleeced Bill O'Brien in the Houston Texans. In that deal,

748
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: they received something called you know, we're up for a

749
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: cyclops as everyone knows, and I I heard from Ricky

750
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: that the UM live stream of the award show will

751
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: be on April, so we might have to find a

752
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: way to connect that uh to the podcast when that

753
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: time comes. So we got a cyclops A nomination. Hopkins

754
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals more specifically, received the Alpha Award for

755
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: Best Sports Transaction of the Year. That one didn't ring

756
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: quite true to me because Tom Brady feels like one

757
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: of the best free agent signings. Ever, how do you know,

758
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I know nobody wants to give Brady or

759
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: his team any more awards than they already get. But

760
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: how is how do the Bucks not win that hardware?

761
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Are they not judging off of the idea of what

762
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: they gave in return? I mean, I'm with you, like

763
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: the most impactful signing was Tom Brady, but like, if

764
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: you looked at the best trade or swap, I would

765
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: give that. I would give it to DeAndre But you're

766
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: what you're really saying also is that the Texans made

767
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: the worst move of last offseason. Well you know what

768
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: this is from? I didn't. I've never heard of this before,

769
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: but it's from the Sloan Conference, which is an analytics conference,

770
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: so you know they're they're from an analytics perspective. Maybe

771
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: who who use the data? Who who fleeced the other team?

772
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: You know who won? In uh, the your New York

773
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: Yankees for a player I've never heard of. Because I'm

774
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: not a big baseball fan. Dj le Matthew. That acquisition one,

775
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: I don't know how that held up. Yeah, he's the

776
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: reigning batting champion DJ L Mayhew. I don't love me,

777
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, we love dj We call him the machine,

778
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: all right. Oh, the Sloan people get excited about that

779
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: Sloan stuff. I want to know when whenever I see

780
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: people tweeting about the Sloan conference and stuff. Though, because

781
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: they're they're all about into analytics. They're all about into

782
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: analyzing how to best use like a payroll in contracts.

783
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: I always want to know how much are the panelists

784
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: getting paid, like, and what are the differences in the

785
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: panelist because that would inform like which panels you would

786
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: go to, Like do I want Kevin Clark at a

787
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: certain value or Bill Simmons at another one? Like that?

788
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: I think they should Kevin James there right. Because they're analytics,

789
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: I think they should release that to the public. They're

790
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: all about the data. They should release that that. We

791
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: should we I think getting Clark on here to say

792
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: how much you got paid by Sloan would be awesome.

793
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: For all I know they don't get paid at all,

794
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: but that seemed that would seem weird finally in the news.

795
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: Oh it's another trope alert. I told you it's my

796
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: responsibility to you, the listeners, to keep you up to

797
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: date on all the tropes as we approach season. George Patton,

798
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: the general manager of the Denver Broncos, is hoping to

799
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: not Payton forget about that. He's pattent on this show.

800
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: He needs Drew Lock to to take the next leap

801
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: forward uh and make the Broncos a playoff team. Well,

802
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: guess what good news. Broncos guard Dalton Risner told Matt

803
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: Lombardo of Fans Sided on his podcast last week that

804
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: Drew Lock has been having film sessions with Hall of

805
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Fame QB. Wade for it Byton Manning. Hit me with

806
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: that trompe alert again. Payton Manning meddling with a team,

807
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: ostensibly to help them. But that's not always the case.

808
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: That's not always the case at all. Heyton Manning meddling

809
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole Peyton Manning has like a football

810
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: Svengali has taken like narrative has taken a big hit

811
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: with his undying support of Adam Gaze, Like that's the

812
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: guy he stood on a table on more than any

813
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: other player or come and so it her being. I

814
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: was thinking like that British trope lady. I don't know

815
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: who she is, but I think at this point we

816
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: should get together for drinks with her, just to learn

817
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: more about her life. She seems enjoyable. Am I wrong? Yeah,

818
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: I'd like to I'd like to see who she is.

819
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: Impact sure, Yeah, she seems forceful to me. It seems

820
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: like you would like to have some private time with

821
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: her if you could. No, No, I said, as a

822
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: group we would. We would definitely likes likes a forceful

823
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: British woman. That's that. I can totally see that. That's

824
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: a little change of pace, if you will. That's what's

825
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: happening in the news. Um, Mark, did you have something

826
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: to lead us into our next second or transition? Is

827
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: out of this current one? Well, I can never tell

828
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: what day it is anymore. Um, I'm sure I'm not alone,

829
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: but it's I didn't even realize we were in the

830
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: double digits of April. But um, April twelve, this is

831
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: just a little quick There are some April they always

832
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: speak up on you. Do you know what happened? Speaking

833
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: of baseball on April twelve, one hundred and forty four

834
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: years ago, a hundred and forty four years ago, in

835
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: eighteen seventy seven, the first catcher's mask was used in

836
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: a baseball game. Okay, even took how how many games

837
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: were played before that? Because that feels like for mouth disaster.

838
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Those guys worked in like meat packing plants back then.

839
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: They didn't here take a baseball to the face. Also,

840
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: Old Johnny and Billy died in the first two days

841
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: of the season, so let's put on masks. So also

842
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: on April twelve, this is a significant day. One hundred

843
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: and ten years later after the first UM catcher's mask

844
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: was was featured in twenty one Jump Street, premiered on Fox.

845
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Is this going to lead to you giving us more

846
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: casting options for Sean Payton because it's been exhausted. No.

847
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: But then the other thing that happened on this date

848
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: that stood out to me, which I think you guys

849
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: probably I witnessed this in person, and was it caused

850
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: quite a ruckus in the tabloids. In Drew Barrymore appeared

851
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: on the The Late show The David Letterman Show and

852
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: basically jumped on his desk and um flashed him frontally

853
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: from the waist up. It was his birthday that also

854
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: happened on this date, so it's not just a meaningless

855
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: day just to cross it off the calendar and walk

856
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: a rod Mark Sessler this state in history. I like that, Um,

857
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: Drew Barry would to show you how far things And

858
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: by the way, that was, Drew was my girl, like

859
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: everybody had, like, especially when you're younger, a celebrity that

860
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: was your celebrity, and you just loved everything about her.

861
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: Drew barrymore was like my ideal of the peak of

862
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: what a woman could be. And so I was a

863
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: huge fan of her in the nineties. Um, so when

864
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: that happened, I was like, oh, that was pretty cool.

865
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: She was shamed, like like her career took on water

866
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: after that, and and you think about it, like if

867
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: that happened today, people would be like, oh, that was

868
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: a pretty cool, crazy thing. But back then she was

869
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: basically branded with a scarlet letter. She was a bad girl,

870
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: she was too naughty, and like it it brought up

871
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: all these issues other conversations. He does that to us

872
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: every week. It's like, that's not a big deal. Weekly

873
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: correct crags Like someone said something that made me uncomfortable.

874
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: I'll be quiet. I didn't know one said anything well,

875
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: the bricky part, yes, but I meant that the Drew Barrymore.

876
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know you had more background knowledge on on

877
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 1: all that as a seminar moment. It was interesting to learn,

878
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: all right, well, you know this really the segment really

879
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: landed gracefully. But I liked it overall. I don't think

880
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna be that segment never appear on this show ever. Again,

881
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: why it's a good I just felt like this month

882
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: feels highly anonymous to me, so I was trying to

883
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: drill down for a little bit of identity, calendar identity

884
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed it, and I think it's something we

885
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: should bring back. We're in between. We're in between, and

886
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: like the NFL calendar, we're in between with this pandemic,

887
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: where you know, it's just sort of like a transition

888
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: where this is like the Nick Siriani of months. Right now,

889
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: it's just like cut it out of the way until

890
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: we move on to the real stuff. Ricky, you could

891
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: have also jumped in there and broken that uncomfortable silence

892
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: when Greg turned off his mike too. Well, I was

893
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna just see how long it went, and I was

894
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: just like going to let that play out, and then

895
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: I was going to come on and just flash you guys. Yeah,

896
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: all right, good stuff. Greg has now left the studio.

897
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: He's not even on the show anymore. M p F.

898
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: They do it, everyone respects PF. It's Chris Collinsworth site.

899
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: Does he get all the money? Like? How does that work?

900
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: Is he? Did he just invest in it? Or did

901
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: he launch it? Where is collins were coming? I know

902
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: it's based out of Cincinnati, isn't it? Yes, he did

903
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: not launch it. It existed um and was robust before

904
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth was ever involved. At some point he invested

905
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: and became I don't know the percentage, it seems like

906
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: it's a pretty high percentage. At some point he became

907
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: like one of the owners, if not the main one,

908
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: but well, definitely it's pretty well usually beneficial for both sides.

909
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: It sounds like collins Worth get well. I think that

910
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: much respect to all those that worked tirelessly to get

911
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: PFF off the ground before he arrusts. Great. Great for

912
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati, Uh, Cincinnati community. It's been huge for the

913
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: Cincinnati community. Just enormous. The pride um all right, So

914
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: they do it every year um NFL win totals always,

915
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: as Greg knows very well, one of the more popular

916
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: ways to bet the NFL, which we do not do,

917
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: by the way, because we are employees of the Shield. However,

918
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: people outside of the walls of our virtual building are

919
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: free to do these things and they enjoy it. And

920
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: that's a big people like that in sports. The idea

921
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: of wagering never my thing. It never really was my thing.

922
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: But I you know, I dabbled in my youth, um,

923
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: and some people are obsessive about it. Mark, did you

924
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: ever get involved in the old days? No? No, no,

925
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: because I I didn't under the capital UM. I probably

926
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: spent my money poorly, if anything, but I gambling seems

927
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: like a poor way to spend it also for many people.

928
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: But a little bit of horse racing UM. When I

929
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: lived in New York City, I'd go to the off

930
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: track betting UM with a couple friends and years. But

931
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: some of those, some of those who ever walked into

932
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: one in Manhattan, some of them are the end of

933
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: the earth. Take the subway out to Aqueduct. That was.

934
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: That was a weird afternoon that I partaked in there.

935
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: I I saw this this speculation by the way that

936
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: the NFL with this new CBA, they have an out

937
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: after like five or six years or something like that,

938
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: and some of the speculation is that by then the

939
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: in game betting will have over have will be such

940
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: a big part of the broadcast that like it will

941
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: provide an opportunity for the NFL to take this out

942
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: and like renegotiate um things related to that that it's

943
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: providing all this extra value. We'll see. I don't know,

944
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: but things have moved pretty quickly on the like betting front,

945
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: including how the NFL treats it. It's not too long

946
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: ago that the NFL didn't allow our our old friend

947
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: Michael Fabiana, who's no longer at the NFL, not to

948
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: do this fantasy football conference with Tony Romo because, like

949
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: you had to, it was loosely associated with betting. And

950
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: now the NFL has got owners, you know, buying betting companies,

951
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: buying Fandel buying all this stuff. They're kind of embracing it. Now. Well,

952
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: you can't talk about that, no, Now I'm being silent

953
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: In case the bosses listened to this unhappy with you,

954
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be. I think it's totally I think they've

955
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: They've been pretty clear about it. Roger Goodell has been

956
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: out out and about that. They're they're cautious, but they're

957
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: cautiously like allowing this stuff now. Yeah, absolutely things have

958
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: changed in a big way over the last ten years.

959
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it, um. And again, this

960
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: is all based not on sixteen games, but seventeen games.

961
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: Just go through the division's a f C East. I'm

962
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: just gonna say what their totals are and then you

963
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: guys jump in and tell me if something doesn't pass

964
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: the smell test to you one way or the other. Okay,

965
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: they have the Bills at ten and a half as

966
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: a significant division favorite, the Dolphins and Patriots sitting at nine,

967
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: which you know put some on the playoff bubble. Uh.

968
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: And then the Jets and I imagine this is a

969
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: jump from last season. They're up to seven. Um, so

970
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: a competitive division with the Bills is the clear favorite.

971
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: Anything jump out to either. It's a lot of faith

972
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: in the Jets. I like it. I kind of think

973
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: that you look at where they were the year before,

974
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: they did win a certain amount of games without with

975
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: not a great team. I mean last year, Um, you

976
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: know you it's almost as hard to go winless, are

977
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: close to winless as it is to go five hundreds sometimes,

978
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: and so I think they'll bounce back. It's a lot

979
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: of faith in Robert Sala and in Zach Wiz wherever

980
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: they draft. It's a ten lost season though, and again

981
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: when you look at the difference in schedule, but that

982
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: seven and ten, would that be progress or the Jets

983
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: when they just went to and fourteen and they have

984
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: a new quarterback? Yeah, I think I as tough as

985
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: it is because as Jets fans you've been waiting over

986
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: a decade just to go back to the playoffs. But

987
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: would I view that as progress if the young quarterback

988
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: is looking promising, Yeah, I would take seven wins to me,

989
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: that's a big jump. I mean that is a big

990
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: jump from two. I get the coaching thing, but where

991
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: are the define strength of this team personnel wise? And

992
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: then you're just counting on the rookie quarterback to be

993
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: not just okay, but like to improve their quarterback position

994
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: a lot. That's a lot to ask out of a

995
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: rookie that seems a little rich and what it could

996
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: be a pretty decent division there. It's the solid factor.

997
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: It's I guess some of the additions Carl Lawson, c J.

998
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: Mosley back, and then you have a big draft, and

999
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: then it's on Joe Douglas to lead the way and

1000
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: make those right decisions. Um. All right. In the a

1001
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: f C North, the Ravens are in the same way

1002
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: that the Bills are, UM a significant somewhat significant favorite

1003
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: at eleven. They haven't pegged at eleven, so that's eleven

1004
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: and six seasons where they kind of see them coming down.

1005
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: The Browns are up next at nine and a half,

1006
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: so they're kind of a bubble team, which is surprising.

1007
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: The Steelers eight and a half and the Bengals six

1008
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: and a half. UM, this one. I think you can

1009
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: make a case for all these ones being interesting, Mark,

1010
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: but let's start with your Browns. There. It felt like

1011
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: was a stepping stone season to this being a big

1012
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,479
Speaker 1: year for Cleveland. I kind of think it's that way,

1013
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: but PFF doesn't quite see it that way. It seems Yeah.

1014
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's a seventeen game season, you're saying

1015
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 1: the odds are they probably go like nine and eight

1016
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: in their view. I don't think that's um. I don't

1017
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: think it's too harsh because I think the wrong thing

1018
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: to do is just to project Cleveland into the a

1019
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: f C title game based on what happened last season,

1020
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: that this whole division had the easiest schedule in the

1021
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: league a year ago, playing the NFC East, and you

1022
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: know it really like Cleveland benefited from that and they

1023
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: faced teams at the right time. There's still a good

1024
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: football team. UM. I don't have a problem with them

1025
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: at nine point five. UM I wouldn't say they're ten

1026
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: point five. I have more of issues with the slotting

1027
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: the Ravens half a game above the Bills. I mean,

1028
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: we're a team that seems to me with a number

1029
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: of big questions going into the season, right. I think

1030
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens have had one of the toughest off seasons

1031
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: in the league, and at eleven they are third, you know,

1032
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: in win totals, behind in the Bucks and the Chiefs,

1033
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: the two Super Bowl teams, So that that's weird to me.

1034
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: The nine and a half, like that's fifth among the

1035
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: a f C teams. I know that sounds like it's low,

1036
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: but that's not low when you're building in these probabilities. Ultimately,

1037
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of room where you have to

1038
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: you know understand that the mean you know, which is

1039
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: five hundred, is a powerful thing. So they're still saying

1040
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: that the Browns are like the fifth best team in

1041
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: the a f C, which that sounds about right. I

1042
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: love the uh the Steelers here probably as my number

1043
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: one um gut instinct on this entire board here is

1044
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: that I feel like the offseason narrative is burying them

1045
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: way too much, putting them at eight and a half,

1046
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: significantly behind the Ravens, I mean with two plus games behind,

1047
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: a game behind the Browns, and then more importantly right

1048
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: at five hundred. The Tomlin has been there for fourteen years.

1049
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: They haven't been below five hundred one time. They won

1050
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: twelve games last year. I just feel like there's this

1051
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: weird we overrate the end of the season, and statistically

1052
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: it's been shown the end of the season, which was

1053
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: great for the Browns. The Browns are pretty consistent, is

1054
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: not anymore like predictive than the beginning of the season. Ultimately,

1055
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: they were good enough to win twelve games. They still

1056
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: have a lot of those defensive pieces. I know it's

1057
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: been a bad offseason, but if you're telling me I

1058
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: got all I need is a fifty fifty chance to

1059
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: go above five, I'm taking the Steelers. Is it predictive

1060
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: when your quarterback is declining over the course of that

1061
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: year and it's not the same guy at the end

1062
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: of the year that he was and now I don't

1063
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: think so. I think the course of the whole season

1064
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: is more instructive, and ultimately they were a passable offense.

1065
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: They weren't good, but the running game was the bigger problem,

1066
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: and that that's still a concern their offensive line, and

1067
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 1: there's a lot of concerns there, don't get me wrong,

1068
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: Like if Vegas was, we're idiots, like everyone would just

1069
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: making money. But I like this as I'm pounding the

1070
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: over there. And the Steelers were absolute mess in December

1071
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: and then that playoff loss. But man, they went eleven

1072
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: weeks before they even lost one game before that happened.

1073
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you could throw all of that away.

1074
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: I would, by the way, strip one w from Baltimore here,

1075
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: knock them down to ten, give Pittsburgh that if you're

1076
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: talking about the averaging it out, Greg and then you

1077
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: get Baltimore at ten, Cleveland nine and a half, Steelers

1078
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: nine and a half, and keep the Bengals where they are.

1079
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: That feels exactly right. That feels exactly right. Af C

1080
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: South Colts the favorite at ten, the Titans right behind

1081
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: it nine and a half, the Jaguars who went one

1082
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: in fifteen m this is an interesting one said at

1083
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: six and a half, and the Texans. I don't know

1084
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: if anybody's as low as the Texans are in this exercise.

1085
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: In fact, they're not. There's nobody predicted to be the

1086
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: worst team in football four and a half, and it

1087
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: is certainly within the realm of possibility that Torod Taylor

1088
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: is their quarterback at the start of two thousand and

1089
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: twenty one, and perhaps deep into it or even all

1090
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: of it. I'm cool the Colts and Titans, the Jaguars

1091
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: at six and a half, just like the Jets. That's

1092
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: a big leap of faith for a team that was

1093
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: a dumpster fire last year. I'm with you. I don't

1094
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 1: see them being two games better than the Texans, for instance.

1095
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: I'd probably go with the Texans over just because things happen.

1096
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: It's not that hard to win six games, man, that's

1097
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: a low low number. And uh, I don't know. This

1098
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: whole division is kind of reminding me of the mid

1099
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: uh two thousand tens. I used to like write like

1100
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: the division power rankings and the a f C South

1101
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: was kind of garbage for a while. I think we're

1102
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: getting back to those days. I guess that's why the

1103
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: Colts numbers ten, because there's a thought that they're going

1104
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: to be able to beat up on Jacksonville and Tennessee.

1105
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: But I don't know that the decline to Carson Wentz

1106
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: I think could be a problem. And and you lost

1107
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: your left tackle. I like the structure and everything there,

1108
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: but this is not a good division. I mean that

1109
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: the that a f C South malaise went on for

1110
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: so long because there were no quarterbacks in the division. Um,

1111
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: now you're saying, if the Cults are gonna go ten,

1112
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: ten wins, you're suggesting the Carson Wentz, you get the

1113
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: better version of Carson Wentz. I think the Titans are

1114
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: a little disrespected here, but I mean, could they go

1115
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: nine and the same as the Browns? Though? Right, like

1116
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. I just I don't know if I

1117
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: see the Cults as a better team than the Titans necessarily,

1118
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: UM and the Jaguars and Texans. I don't hate what

1119
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 1: they did there, I think it's just you're giving a boot.

1120
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: You're probably trying to get some action off the the

1121
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: Jacksonville thing, but you're not. They're not. They don't decide

1122
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: who where action comes from. This is PSFs. They're not

1123
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: a voting lobby, so it is crazy to think on

1124
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: your quarterback, Well, they're not a gambling house. So it's like,

1125
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: who I mean, I don't know what the voting lobby

1126
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: thing that was wild enjoyed it af C West this one.

1127
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: I think they pretty much nailed with it. For me,

1128
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: I would make one slight modification. They're the Chiefs at twelve.

1129
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: That's the highest of any team in the league. The

1130
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: Chargers at nine, the Broncos at seven and a half,

1131
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders at seven and a half. You know, I

1132
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: would probably bump up the Chargers to nine and a

1133
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: half and dropped the Broncos to seven. Where do you

1134
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: guys come down on this? Man, I'm I'm gonna do

1135
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: it because of Herbert, But it's like we're just right

1136
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: back on the same train of given the Chargers the

1137
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Yeah, I'm not going to do

1138
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: it until why are they ahead of these two teams

1139
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: that when they've been so disappointing these last two years.

1140
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: The Raiders have a lower win total than they did

1141
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: a year ago with sixteen games. I know it. Sometimes

1142
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: the off season narrative is a little bit much. I

1143
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: that said, I'm probably gonna be picking the Chargers to

1144
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: have a great season, but I don't feel confident at all.

1145
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that

1146
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: they're that they're so beloved. Well, I mean, if you

1147
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: get Derwin James back and he's healthy, Um, Joey Boast

1148
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 1: a healthy you have Austin Ekeler for more time this year,

1149
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: You've got second year with Justin Herbert. I think Brandon

1150
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: Staley if I know, I get a little hot on

1151
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: these coaches, but um, I don't think Brandon Staley. Everything

1152
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: we know about him suggests late game meltdowns and and

1153
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: and mismanaged. We don't know anything. Everything that's been written

1154
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: about him, that he is like a football junkie, extremely detailed,

1155
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: that he's not going to be like a shaky game operator.

1156
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: That little things like that that seemed to have mystified

1157
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: Chargers brass and coaches for a long time. Befement. In

1158
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: the heat of the battle, you know these guys that

1159
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: are completely untested, Well, I would say that one of

1160
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: them calling the plays for them too. He's a defensive coach,

1161
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: so it's like, I mean, he wouldn't be calling their offense.

1162
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: But when twelve games combined the last two years, that's

1163
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: just my main thing, and like, yeah, we always say

1164
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: how talented they are. I'm talking out of all sides

1165
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: of my mouth because I'm going to be rooting for

1166
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: him and thinking they're good, But I would not feel

1167
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: comfortable putting any money. That's they're already kind of building

1168
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: in that everyone likes this team with that number. Yeah,

1169
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: and you the point you were making Mark All those

1170
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: things makes sense for the Charges, but it never seems

1171
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: to really come together that way, whether it's meltdowns or

1172
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: injuries or whatever. But I'm just like, in one of

1173
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: the rare instances of this, I'm trying to think more

1174
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: logically than with my feelings, because it's like, logically, they

1175
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: should be much better than they've been, So so does that?

1176
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: So are we are we chipping two games three games

1177
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: off of this version of the Chargers with a new

1178
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: coach and knew all this other stuff because of the

1179
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: weird stuff that's occurred. I don't know, it's like the same, yes, somewhat,

1180
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: because it's the same reason why, you know, the Ravens

1181
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: make sense to me as the slight favorites over the

1182
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: Browns because you just give like the benefit of the

1183
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: doubts to the organization, and the Chargers are sort of

1184
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: the opposite of that, where you don't at this point

1185
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: you should not give them the benefit of the doubt.

1186
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: Over in the NFC, we'll start with the East, and

1187
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: PFF projects another down year for this uh former Juggernaut

1188
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys, of course because it is spring

1189
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: and summer, are the significant favorite to win the NFC

1190
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: East that nine and a half, so they see him

1191
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: as a nine and eight, ten and seven type team. UH.

1192
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: The Washington Football team said at eight, the Giants at seven,

1193
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles at six and a half. I am digging

1194
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys a win, and I'll give it to I'll

1195
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: split it between the Giants and Eagles, so I'll knock

1196
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys down to eight and a half. Washington Football

1197
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: Team at eight and then seven and a half for

1198
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: Giants and seven for Eagles. So just the big stew

1199
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: of mediocrity with the Cowboys not above anybody. It sounds

1200
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: about right. I like that. Yeah, I am with you

1201
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: that this division and it does look more interesting at least,

1202
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean one of the Cowboys. I know Dak Prescott's back,

1203
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: but and I know we got rid of the defensive coordinator.

1204
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: So that's all stop because you got the guy who's

1205
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: coaching the Falcons. But it's like, now now we're just

1206
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna say their head and shoulders the best team in

1207
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: the division. Now I'm out of that game. I'm out. No,

1208
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy goes, you know, if they go like

1209
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: a soft nine and eight or they go eight and nine.

1210
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: If they go eight and nine, Mike McCarthy shouldn't be

1211
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: out of there because they do on offense, they should

1212
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: be a top seven offense. But they could be a

1213
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: top seven offense and still go eight nine. I don't know.

1214
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean, NFC North, Let's keep moving with Packers a

1215
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: heavy favorite ten and a half, Vikings eight and a half,

1216
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: Bears seven, Lions five. Okay, I'm cool with this. I'm

1217
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: cool with everything here. Maybe you're Aaron Rodgers is probably

1218
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: not gonna play at that level again, maybe Will who knows,

1219
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: But still I think the Packers are just a better

1220
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: team than all these other teams in the mix. We're considering.

1221
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: They've won thirteen games each season the last two, ten

1222
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: and a half in a seventeen game season is is,

1223
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: so they're kind of building in that regression a little bit. Yeah,

1224
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: maybe maybe an opportunity there. I think going under on

1225
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: the Bears would be just kind of fun to root for.

1226
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know how they've run won

1227
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: as many games as they have the last couple of years.

1228
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: I feel like like, if you told me they're picking

1229
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: first overall next season, like that wouldn't shock me. I

1230
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: feel like they're they could totally totally fall apart, So

1231
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: I might. I'm banging the under there. I'm with you.

1232
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 1: The Bears are screaming. They're screaming at me. Five and twelve, right,

1233
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: I think they could be They could be a three Wait.

1234
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: I can't even do the math. But three four, Oh

1235
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: my god, that is that's where if if some no,

1236
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: probably not, but if some team goes three and fourteen

1237
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: or four and thirteen for some reason, those numbers sound terrible,

1238
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: all right? The NFC South, So the Bucks just pantst

1239
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, and we're basically unstoppable

1240
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: the last six or seven weeks of the season, but

1241
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: they don't get to be above the Chiefs. And this

1242
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: exercise there at eleven and a half, which is a

1243
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: very nice season, but not installed as the best team

1244
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: in the league according to win projection, but still a

1245
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: significant favorite. Here the Saints. It has to be five

1246
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: years since the Saints were this low. In this exercise

1247
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: there at nine, Panthers, seven and a half, Falcon seven.

1248
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: Give me that half from the Panthers and give it

1249
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: to the Saints. So I would go eleven and a

1250
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: half Bucks, nine and a half, Saints seven and seven

1251
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: for Panthers and Falcons. What about you, guys? Did this

1252
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: come out after Sam Donald went to Carolina bestarred? This

1253
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: published date says April seven, so it was after Okay,

1254
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: So I'm into like checking the out of division schedule,

1255
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: and of course they are doing that when they're making

1256
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: these and the NFC South plays the two Eastern divisions.

1257
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: I like that, you know, if i'm them, I'll take that.

1258
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: If I'm the Bucks, um, the Panthers were the one

1259
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: that stand out to me though that it's a little

1260
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: aggressive here them improving that much having to go over

1261
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: seven right now with the quarterback situation, I don't like

1262
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: their offensive line. Like a lot of questions on defense,

1263
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: you're you're, you're, you need to get to eight and

1264
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: not eight and nine there to win that. It seems

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01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: a little Yeah. I think if they had they made

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01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: a big splash at quarterback, I had no problem with

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: a higher number. But there are a question mark right

1268
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: now to some degree, if before all this madness, if

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01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: they had had if they got to Shaun Watson, where

1270
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: would they be here? They'd be probably nine and a

1271
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: half or ten. You would think, right, yeah, I mean,

1272
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm gonna bang that if in another

1273
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: world where you're allowed banging it over on the Saints,

1274
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: you don't even have to tell you don't even have

1275
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: to tell us. Finally, the NFC West, the Rams and Niners.

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01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: This is the only division in this whole exercise where

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01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: they've installed co favorites both ten and a half um

1278
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: Rams and Niners. So they are all in, uh pff

1279
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: on the Niners getting healthy and becoming a force in

1280
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: the NFC again. The Seahawks, who fashioned themselves a win

1281
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: now champion level team nine and a half, So PF

1282
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: thinks they're, you know, a wild card team at best,

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01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals is an important year for Cliff Kingsbury

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01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: and that entire operation. They said at eight, so a

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01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: middling five, just below team which is not going to

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01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: get it done. In fact, I think that's gonna get

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury fired if they finished under five hundred year. Yeah,

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01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean if they go eight and nine,

1289
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: you'd have to question what the vision is there. They

1290
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: have their quarterback. Um, they got the Sloan Award for

1291
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: the greatest trade of last season of bringing DeAndre Hopkins,

1292
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: and they've got J J. Watt. I know it's not

1293
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: the version of j J. Watt from half a decade.

1294
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: Wasn't the Sloan Award either. I just want to make

1295
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: sure we got the right. It was from Alpha Award.

1296
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: It was from the Sloan Conference. Yes, the Sloan Conference

1297
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: Alpha Award for best Sports. Like what they've done. I

1298
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: I was more surprised by the NFC West totals than

1299
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: any other, UM, especially the Rams and the forty niners

1300
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: having the same total as the Packers and the Bills,

1301
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: for instance. I don't that's a lot a lot of

1302
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: in there. That's a lot of projection. And I like

1303
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: what the Rams have done the last few years, and

1304
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: I like the Matthew Stafford move, but yeah, I don't know,

1305
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: you gotta see it. And then the forty Niners, especially,

1306
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: let's be real, Kyle san Ann said one. I know

1307
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: the injuries have been crazy, but they've only had one

1308
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: season and over five so they're putting up there high

1309
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: without really any clarity of the quarterback situation and a

1310
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: little concern that you know, you're asking a lot out

1311
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: of a rookie potentially. I think they've shown a lot

1312
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: of faith in Sean McVeigh, a lot of faith in

1313
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: Kyl Shanahan, which wouldn't surprise me from from PF. But

1314
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: the Niners, like last year, probably would have been they

1315
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: would have been a wild card team if they weren't

1316
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: ravaged by injuries. But but I will say this that

1317
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: there is a lot of projecting the Niners doing X,

1318
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: Y and Z, and I do a lot of it

1319
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: because of Shanahan, Like if he gets a healthy quarterback

1320
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: for the full season and they don't make the playoffs, Um,

1321
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: you have to look at what's happened with the Niners

1322
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: in San Francisco and say you'd expect a little more

1323
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: from Kyle Shanahan. So I think it's an important, very

1324
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: important season. If they go less than ten, you're in trouble.

1325
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: I'm ripping off a half win from Rams and Niners

1326
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: and given it all to the Cardinals. So I'll put

1327
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: them at ten, Seahawks at nine and a half. They

1328
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: deserve to be get a little more respect for what

1329
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: they've done over the last twelve years or so, and

1330
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, um chill there at eight. I'm not very

1331
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: high on that team, even though they did win the

1332
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: Jumbo Award, excuse me, the Alpha Award. I mean, Cliff

1333
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: Cliff gets a lot of heat. For give us. They

1334
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: have improved their their win total significantly in each of

1335
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: his seasons, and even eight wins would be what another

1336
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: He took over a very bad team. Now, but it's

1337
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: it's okay, They're okay. You don't have to fire everyone. Yeah,

1338
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: give us that cyclops. Maybe we'll do like a live

1339
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: like when they're announcing the award, will go on live

1340
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: on Instagram or some right after to say how mad

1341
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: we are or to how happy we are. Either way,

1342
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 1: either the Clops. Well, why were we not invited to

1343
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: the event. I mean, any gala award banquet type scenario

1344
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: we'd be at a round table would be us and

1345
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: probably you know SI podcast types. You weren't invited. No,

1346
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: Well so you okay? Yeah, Dan, and I got this.

1347
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: So you guys are gonna do your live instagram from

1348
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: the event while I'm at my house. Um, someone, a

1349
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: shadowy league figure emailed me late last week's and they

1350
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: were entertained by our general approach and reaction to our

1351
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: award nomination. And to that, I say, don't misconstrue where

1352
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm coming from. I want that Cyclops and I want

1353
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: a bed, and if I don't get it, Uh, that's

1354
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: going to be hell to pay. Maybe some vengeance will

1355
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: be declared. I don't know. I hope it doesn't get

1356
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: to that. I mean, I look at our competition and

1357
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: I respect everyone because I know how hard it is

1358
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: to put together a quality program. But you can't say

1359
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 1: anybody else deserves the Cyclops. Well what if we lost

1360
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: a mad Dog? I mean, that's like a childhood hero

1361
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,919
Speaker 1: of ours, it Field, and didn't he win like seventeen

1362
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: Marconi's during his Mike and the mad Dog Run. Can

1363
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: we calm down with that? I love? And Dan's done

1364
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: the work. He's listened to extensive back cat back catalogs

1365
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 1: of all these podcasts like you know Notes Golfing, Joe Wrestling,

1366
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: Bob and you know he's and if we lose to

1367
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: a golf podcast, um, it would be time for some introspection,

1368
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: right who was talking? Who is listening to a go?

1369
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, I'm probably gonna get like

1370
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: people I know, but to sit and chat about it

1371
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: like on a is it a three times a week

1372
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: grinding through the Gulf? Will's Twitter feed like was like

1373
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: a live stream of his thoughts about the people people

1374
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: love it. I try to, like I'm trying to. I'm

1375
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: trying to improve myself as a person enough that like,

1376
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't judge people for liking golf because it's after

1377
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: this pandemic. Everyone should just do whatever you enjoy, go

1378
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: go be there. But I haven't quite gotten there yet.

1379
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: I don't podcast do judge them a little bit, even

1380
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: though as well, I believe this podcast had a bit

1381
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: of a defiant anti golf streak to it in past years.

1382
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: I would say, not not myself, but some of the

1383
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 1: other members of the show. Hey, I worked at multiple

1384
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: golf course. I know we heard it playing, but I

1385
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: did to Greg, and I formed my opinions off of that. Um,

1386
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: you know, carrying like two giant golf bags up and

1387
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: down huge hills and making eight dollars for the entire

1388
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: like eighteen holes in nine or something. Absurd job, Erica,

1389
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm just continuing the podcast right now, just because you

1390
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 1: didn't jump in soon enough about the Drew Barrymore conversation.

1391
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: It's a penalty to you. There we go. Now we're

1392
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: all covered. Thank you for that. Um all right. Uh,

1393
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 1: and Will Brinson if you're listening, I'm sorry, but you

1394
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: had to hear that. We love Will. It's it's it's

1395
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: the sport well of course, of CBS fame. We will

1396
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: be back on Thursday with another show, um, so make

1397
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: sure you check that out. And then Friday, the NFL

1398
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: Network program returns. We had a nice show this past week.

1399
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: We did some a t and Jeopardy. Ricky Hollywood came

1400
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: out on top. A nice job. Nice performance by Erica there. Um.

1401
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: Greg did not even make it. He didn't make the

1402
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: final Jeopardy. You have to be have positive cash earnings

1403
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: after Double Jeopardy to qualify for Final Jeopardy, and unfortunately

1404
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: Greg was sitting at a goose egg, eliminating him from

1405
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: the competition. He was not happy about it, and he

1406
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: kind of hit out at me, which felt unfair because

1407
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: all I was was the host. Sometimes though, it's not

1408
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: about who won the title, like I was the audiences favorite.

1409
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: You know, it's like sometimes the actor that doesn't win

1410
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: the Oscar, that's the performance that everyone remembers years from now.

1411
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,520
Speaker 1: And I saw you kind of the Kevin James of

1412
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: that particularly. Second think Greg German, Gregg German was disgusting

1413
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: today show. All right, that's it, it's the Dan Answers

1414
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:53,480
Speaker 1: signing off four Huiet stormed the old boss Ricky Hollywood

1415
01:13:53,680 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: behind the virtual glass until Thursday the call. I mean,

1416
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: people didn't even know Greg Derman when Ally mcbeel was

1417
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: on the air. No, he had to top back then

1418
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: that he would he he didn't know his name. I

1419
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: didn't know his name, but I knew exactly who he was.

1420
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: I do. I watched Ally mcbeel regularly, I would say

1421
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: at least for a few seasons. Yep, it was, it was.

1422
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: It was a pretty good show. I'll defend it. I'll

1423
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: defend it. I think it fell off a cliff pretty quick,

1424
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: but it was kind of fun for a while.