1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: The Favorite podcast is presented by FanDuel Sports Book. There's 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: no better place to make every moment more than with FanDuel. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: I bet with FanDuel because they're safe and secure, they 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: offer great odds and markets across the NBA, n HL 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and more, and because it's fun to combine multiple bets 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: into same game parlays. So if you're new, just download 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: the FanDuel Sports Book app to get started now. Sign 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: up with promo code Favorites so they know I sent you. 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: You must be over in president in Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Indiana, Michigan, 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia or Louisiana. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Gambling problem called one eight hundred next step or text 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: next step to five three three four two in Arizona 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: one eight hundred gambler or visit FanDuel dot com slash 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: r G in Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey. In Virginia one 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or visit 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: CCPG dot org slash chat in Connecticut one eight seven 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: zero seven one one seven for confidential help in Michigan 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: one eight seventh s t o P in Louisiana called 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Redline one eight eight nine or visit one 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: eight hundred gambler dot net in West Virginia. Welcome to 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: the Favorite to the podcast from the Volume podcast Network. 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: I am Chad Mellman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: We are bringing back the most revolutionary creative novel concept 24 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: that has been introduced into the podcasting world this quarter 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: since May. We're calling it what are the Odds? Everyone 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: knows it, everyone loves it. We're getting listeners to send 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: in their random events in their life, and our math 28 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: geniuses are Predictive Analytics team Sean Kerner and Nick Giffen 29 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: are putting the odds on something like this act really 30 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: happening before we bring them in. Simmon Hunter, my co host, 31 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: meant BFF, my companion, my compadre, professional better. This is 32 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: turned in one of my favorite things and podcasting. Now. 33 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: You love you and you love your own ideas. So 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: this is this is right up your alley chat, something 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: you came up with on your own show. Oh my god, 36 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: it's too good to be true. So I'm shocked. I 37 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: enjoy it because usually I just said, yeah, this is 38 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: great yet just to be nice to you. But I 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: love it. I love hearing the odds of things because 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: it's so interesting knowing there's always math bind everything in life. 41 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: That was something I learned very early on that every 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: little thing you can think of in this entire world, 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: everything around you, it's math, and like that freaks people out, 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: but that's the truth. So hearing these guys come on 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: to give us a math equation to a random moment 46 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: in life, it's the best simon. As usual. You've cut 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: to the quick and both hurt my feelings and identified 48 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: things about me that I swear to God, like I 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: thought only my life really understand and I thought I 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: was foodling everybody else, and then you come out with that. 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: But and while what you said as a hundred percent 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: accurate about me again, Full credit for the idea to 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: Jennifer Schiffman of West Hartford, Connecticut, who came up with 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 1: the segment when we were having drinks me, her husband Mike, 55 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: close friends of ours, my wife Stacy. I told him 56 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: the story. She said you should do that on the podcast. 57 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: Call it what are the odds? Asked? Viewers ask listeners. 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: All credit to jen Schiffman, content creator, coroner and Nick 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: Are you ready? I feel like coroner and Nick, that's 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: like a great show. It could be a great restaurant. Anyways, 61 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: I'll get to it. Here we go. What are the odds? 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Listener Evan Pluso sent us a golf story covered recently 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: by the Minneapolis Star Tribune. It is Taylor made for 64 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: this segment. It began Thursday, June two at the Minneapolis 65 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Golf Club when thirteen year old Preston Miller carded his 66 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: first career hole in one. But young Preston, who plays 67 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: varsity golf at local St. Louis Park High School, didn't 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: save the ball as a key sake. Instead, he kept 69 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: playing with the same ball, and he lost it three 70 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: holes later after it struck a treat. He finished his 71 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: round and head to the clubhouse, and by the same time, 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: a golfer named ri Ricardo was searching deep in the 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: rough for his own ball when he came across Preston's titlist, 74 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: which had a St. Louis Park logo on it with 75 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: no one in site. Ricardo correctly assumed the ball was 76 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: lost and put it into his own bag. Near the 77 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: end of Ricardo's round on whole sixteen, he needed a 78 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: new ball, so he grabbed Preston's lost ball from his 79 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: bag at random and proceeded to card his fourth career 80 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: hole in one with it. After Ricardo showed off his 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: ball at the end of the round, the connection was 82 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: made in the clubhouse and Preston was called over to 83 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: confirm it was indeed his ball, and it became official. 84 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: The same golf ball had been used by two separate 85 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: golfers on the same course on the same day to 86 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: sink two separate holes in one. They asked the club's 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: head pro about it, and he doubted such a feat 88 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: had ever been accomplished before. Engulfs long history, we ask you, 89 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: croner and gift them. What are the odds? First off, 90 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: this is by far the craziest story we have done 91 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: so far, so let's go through each event one by one. 92 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: So there's really four things that needed to happen here. 93 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: The first was thirteen year old Preston had to hit 94 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: a hole of one on whole four, so we gave 95 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: him the average golfers odds, which is about twelve th 96 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: one to do that. But let me pause right there 97 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: that the fact that President did not stash his ball 98 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: away after hitting the hole of one is one of 99 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: the crazier things about this story like that that's insane 100 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: to me. So just for that to happen alone is 101 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: already pretty crazy, But we gave him twelve th one 102 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: to do that. Funny thing is Sean and I. We 103 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: try to throw cold water in a lot of these. 104 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: But everything we're doing here is like underestimating craziness of this. 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: First of all, the kids shouldn't have to be playing 106 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: with this ball. We're we're essentially saying this is like 107 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: the floor for these odds. The fact that he did 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: keep playing with his ball. Call Preston here. You know, 109 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: now he has to play with it on holes four 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: or five, six, and then a whole seven he shanks. 111 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: It ends up like in the brush area in whole twelve. 112 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: So now where we sending odds and was shaking it. 113 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: But then also Ricardo had to come across Preston's ball, 114 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: and this was definitely the toughest part to calculate. We're 115 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: giving that about a five o one chance of happening. 116 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: This is an area we're probably underestimating the odds. But 117 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: let's jump to step number three. So now that Ricardo 118 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: has this ball, we need to calculate the probability they 119 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: actually uses this ball. And when we did some research 120 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: on this and we read that Ricardo put the ball 121 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: in his bag and continue to play with the ball 122 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: that he had been using. So we had the rest 123 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: of whole twelve, fourteen, and fifteen to potentially lose this 124 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: ball that he had been playing with to have to 125 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: grab another ball. So let's a there's a chance he 126 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: doesn't lose the ball per hole on hole and fifteen, 127 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: so there's about a fifteen percent chance he would need 128 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: to turn to a new ball. Chance he keeps that ball. 129 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: So again, let's say one in six that he actually 130 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: needs to turn to a new ball. And we said, 131 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: if he turns to a new ball, we gave it 132 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: a chance he'd use this ball like he did, put 133 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: it right on top in the bag and he pulled 134 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: the one right off top, so we figured it's a 135 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: very good chance that, you know, he did grab this ball. 136 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: So one in six chance again of actually using this 137 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: ball on whole sixteen. Yeah, So then the last step 138 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: in this crazy story is Ricardo needed to hit a 139 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: hole in one on hole sixteen because that was the 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: only part three the rest of the way, so it 141 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: had to be this whole and considering Ricardo has already 142 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: made three hole and ones in his career, he's an 143 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: above average golfer. So we didn't give him the twelve 144 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: thousand one odds that we gave President. We gave him 145 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: closer to eight thousand and one. We thought that was 146 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: pretty fair. So after all that, after it's all said 147 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: and done, that gives us the probability of a three 148 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: point five billion to one that this would happen. And again, 149 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: the chances of Preston continuing to use that ball is crazy. 150 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: In my opinion, we didn't factor that in the fact 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: that Preston probably hit his worst shot of the entire 152 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: round on whole seven that needed to happen for Card 153 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: to find the ball, we couldn't really factor that in, 154 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: so again we're kind of underestimating it. So in theory, 155 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: this could be closer to ten billion to one if 156 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: if we're being honest, ten billion to one. What what 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: I love about this is Simon's right, like you boiled 158 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: down the map and the fact that you guys are 159 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: thinking so creatively about what you have to ascribe the 160 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: odds to. The odds need to be that not that 161 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: he shanks it. But that Ricardo finds the shank right. 162 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: At moments in this story it feels like you're taking 163 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: all the joy out of it, and then other times 164 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: when we get to the end, I'm just so glad 165 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: we got to a big number. Yeah, this is way 166 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: less likely than your band aid story. By the way, 167 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: a listener tweeted me and said that the odds I 168 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: had quoted on a recent podcast where I said it 169 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: was about food one didn't make sense and he hadn't 170 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: heard Nick your explanation of it. I do need to 171 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: make a correction because the real odds I think we 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: decided were like ten thousand one, which made more sense. 173 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: And of course I love that this listener had done 174 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: the math, like you have to assume this number of 175 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: flights this that he had actually looked at, like there 176 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: were fifty flights in this window at this time, this 177 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: number of passengers on this train. I'm like, dude, you 178 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: are deep and you are right. I'm giving the correction. 179 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: I apologize Nick and sewn great job, fellas the best 180 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: one yet definitely, And there's no underlying chop here. These 181 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: are all the straight things that just had to happen, 182 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: So there's just a totally crazy story. I also agree 183 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: that how cocky is this Preston kid that he's like, 184 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't need to save that ball. I'll probably hit 185 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, he's only thirteen. This this is probably 186 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: first of many holy ones. But still I am a 187 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: memorabilia kind of guy. I would just keep it and 188 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: not even risk it. He risked it because he said, 189 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard to lose the ball on 190 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: this course, and he he didn't even think he would 191 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: lose it. He says he almost never loses the ball here, 192 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: and I guess he just kept playing with it. But yeah, 193 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I would have. I would have pocketed that thing right, 194 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: As I've said a thousands of times. Fucking kids. Sean 195 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: Croner Nick Giffin predictive analytics team here at the Action 196 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Network bringing us the math on your what are the 197 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: odds questions? Thanks folas, thank you, thank you. This baseball 198 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: season turned case into cash and big hits into big wins. 199 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: With Fan Duel sports book. Right now, new customers can 200 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: step up to the plate with a no sweat first 201 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: bet up to one thousand dollars. So just sign up 202 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: the place your first bet and Fan Duel will give 203 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: you up to one thousand dollars back in free beats 204 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: if you don't win. I love betting with fan Duel 205 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: because they've got great promos every single day on an 206 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: app that's safe and secure. Plus would I in, I 207 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: get paid out fast. So today I'd use my no 208 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: sweat first bet MLB beat on the Milwaukee Brewers on 209 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: the road. There's no better place to bet America's pastime 210 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: than on America's number one sports book, So download the 211 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: FanDuel sports Book app and sign up using promo code 212 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Favorites to get started with your no sweat first beat. 213 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: Up to one thousand dollars must be twenty one or 214 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: over in present in Arizona, Connecticut, Iowa, Illinois, or Louisiana 215 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: in permitted parishes only, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, 216 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: West Virginia, or Wyoming. First online real money wager only, 217 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: refund issued as non withdrawal free beat that expires fourteen 218 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: days after a street Restrictions apply see terms at sports 219 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: book dot vanduel dot com gambling problem called one D 220 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: Gambler or visit FanDuel dot com slash RG in Iowa, Michigan, 221 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Pennsylvania or Illinois. Next Step or text next 222 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: Step to five three four two seven, eight nine, seven, 223 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: seven seven seven or visit CCPG dot org slash chat 224 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: and connect again one eight seven and seven, seven seven 225 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: zero stop in Louisiana one eight seven, seven eight Hope 226 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: and Why or text Hope and Why four six, seven, 227 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: three six nine in New York called the Tennessee's Redline 228 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: on eight hundred, eight eight nine nine one eight hundred 229 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: five to hundred in Wyoming, or visit one gambler dot 230 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 1: net in West Virginia. It is time for another favorite podcast, 231 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: Mayo Bag. We did one earlier this summer. It was 232 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: wildly popular. You guys had a lot of questions sign 233 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: on listen you and I. When we first started doing 234 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: this podcast, we came in four and in the money 235 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: in the Draft Kings season long pick um contest And 236 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: we love doing these, and we came really close this 237 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: past year two if not for some sort of bad 238 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: decision making. In our opinions, what this is from Stevie 239 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: in our opinions, what would the perfect season long NFL 240 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: betting contest look like? Um, that's hard because it is 241 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: it is pretty good. That what they have now the 242 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: five I like the Draft Kings where we had the 243 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: year we had the two buys like that was kind 244 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: of like cool with the figure out what weeks to 245 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: skip and what weeks to play was kind of interesting wrinkle. 246 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: But to me, a perfect one would be just picking 247 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: three games a week, like no, no normal pro bets, 248 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, big money on five different games. But any 249 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: given week three games that sounds about right. Like that 250 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: three games will I'll be locked in on and think 251 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: I'll find really good value. So the five game thing 252 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: I like because it helps the Joe Schmo like the guys, 253 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: like just a public better that wants to do these contests. Um, 254 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: I feel like that gives them an advantage over a 255 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: pro because you know, every every game you add, just 256 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: like in parlays, your odds go down. I'm getting it right. 257 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: I mean it's really hard to go five and O. 258 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: So you know the pro with me, yeah, I wish 259 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: it was just three games a week, but I honestly think, 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we can talk about the d K, the 261 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: d K or the circle, but no, DK has got 262 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: to got it down pretty well. Now they have one 263 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: week that's a buy and they have you know pretty 264 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: good payouts, but Circle they had better payouts. So it's 265 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: all about what you're looking for. You're looking for bigger money. 266 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: That's that's probably the contest for you, other than day. 267 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: You know. Well, what I agree with you is what 268 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: I also like about DK is you don't have the 269 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: lock until Sunday, and so you concur us though, what's 270 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: that that actually hurt us? Well, it hurt us because 271 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: we're stupid, not because in this situation it hurt It 272 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: hurt us because we like let lines influence us and 273 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: we started to play. Yeah, we just you know, we 274 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: didn't block out the noise. That's our fault. That's not 275 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: the contest fault. Um. So I like that. Uh, I 276 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: like that there's a late lock um. I think that's great. 277 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: A lot of contests do a Thursday lock Um. I 278 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: agree with you on the three I'd much rather do 279 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: that if I if I were building a perfect contest, 280 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: I'd make it even a little more sharper at the 281 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: risk of excluding people who, um, who might not play it. Otherwise, 282 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: maybe you increase the entry fee, make it three games, 283 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: create a little bit more situational strategy, so you can 284 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: start to include live betting. Because I think that is 285 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: becoming a much bigger deal in the betting space right now. 286 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: Can you buy out at halftime? Can you find a 287 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: half point if you can bet the other side or 288 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: make the right decision sort of strategically to find a 289 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: way to get yourself to even or with a little 290 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: money on a game that looks like it's going to 291 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: be a loss. I'd like to incorporate live betting. But ultimately, 292 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: the perfect season long NFL betting contest. What does it 293 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: look like? It's one with you and me at the 294 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: top of the rankings. Try to simplify things that you 295 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: just throw in a whole wrench, but like, yeah, let 296 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: just add live betting to a contest. It's like, yeah, 297 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: make it as complicated complicated as you can. I think 298 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: it will separate sort of the joes from the schmos, 299 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: and I think it'll make a little bit more strength. Um. 300 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's see here's another one. It's about live betting. 301 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: Um from Chris. It was reported that NFL Sunday Ticket 302 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: will leave direct TV and move to a streaming service 303 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: in do you see the short delays caused by streaming 304 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: impacting NFL live betting? Is there a way to be 305 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: proactive to avoid this. Yeah, it's brutal. Um. If you're 306 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: if you like again, if you're a live better, you 307 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: need cable, Like there's no no YouTube, TV, no streaming 308 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: services to watch your games like that. I mean, that's tough. 309 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: It's honestly. That's why a lot of guys, I know, 310 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: they don't even own cable. Like, if they're gonna go 311 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: watch a game, they go to the book and that's 312 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: where they live betting. If they're been on their phones, 313 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: they bet at the book because they want live lines, 314 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: they want live place. So to me, if you if 315 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: you're just a fan of it and you're not gonna 316 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: be you know, like some of these degenerates where it's 317 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: like I want that half a second ahead so I 318 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: can get this underbet before everyone else knows. This guy 319 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: gets sacked. Like it's rare you can pull off that 320 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: half a second bet because most of these books updates 321 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: so quick and they check your bet before they approve 322 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: your bet. So it's not that big of a difference 323 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: is people make it out to be, But it definitely 324 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: is a difference. Like if you're on a TV that's 325 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: a fourteen second delay, you can get caught. You can 326 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: bet on a team all of a sudden, the guy 327 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: throws a pick six and it's like, wow, I just 328 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: literally lied bet this guy. If I wouldn't on a 329 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: fourteen second delay that that would that cost me some money. 330 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, the Apple TV, I'm a I'm a fan 331 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: of it, honestly, like them getting Sunday ticket. To me, 332 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: that's that's great because me and Chad our job is 333 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: the product of the NFL. More people are gonna be 334 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: able to watch that than the Sunday ticket, So that's 335 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: great from that aspect. From the gambling aspect, you can't 336 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: lie bet delays like that if you're trying to bet 337 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: real big money. Yeah, the delays are really a hindrance 338 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: for live betting, and I know a lot of markets 339 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: are a lot of books would like live betting to 340 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: become more of their handle and have it be akin 341 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: to what's happening in Europe where live betting is upwards 342 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: of seventy of the handle. But the most popular sports 343 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: for live betting are tennis and obviously soccer, and especially 344 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: with soccer, they're just more of an opportunity as games 345 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: go on to make live bets just because of the 346 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: sort of length of time between action. Really really hard 347 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: to do that with the NFL, even look given the 348 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: night at earlier this year during the NBA playoffs when 349 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the finals were happening, I was watching the finals and 350 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: like one of my kids friends who we were watching 351 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: it with, um, he was trying to bet bait me 352 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: into betting whether or not a guy was going to 353 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: make a free throw. But he was getting text from 354 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: a buddy about what was happening because the buddy was 355 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: a little bit ahead. So it's just really hard to 356 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: manage that. Yeah, now it's dangerous game. From David, what 357 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: is a normal daylight for both of you during the 358 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: NFL offseason, particularly NFL slow period of May and June. 359 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to say, just because COVID kind 360 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: of threw a wrench and everything. Like usually honestly would 361 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: just be traveling or visiting other pros or visiting friends 362 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: from like growing up and just traveling a lot. To 363 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: stay busy because I'm like most people, if I'm not 364 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: being busy doing stuff, I'm usually spending money on stupid 365 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: ship or gambling like a degenerate I am. So I 366 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: try to stay busy this year it's been a little different. 367 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: I've been in definitely more like you know, shaking hands, 368 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: kissing babies, like meeting with different people, meeting with other pros, 369 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: and like kind of setting stuff up, just because the 370 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: legalization has really changed everything in my life. Like I mean, 371 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: I used to maybe get three four phone calls a 372 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: day in the off season. Now I'm getting calls constantly 373 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: just because New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, these areas are 374 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: becoming pretty big deal in the gambling world. Like not 375 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: it's not what Vegas used to be, Like Vegas used 376 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: to be the spot. Now it's kind of becoming the Northeast. 377 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: So it's definitely been different for me during this offseason. 378 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: I say, a normal day would just be that it's 379 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: like I just try to keep busy, maybe go for 380 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: walks and do whatever, but just a lot of phone 381 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: calls and a lot of conversation of like what's the 382 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: next move, what's the next step with with what everything's 383 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: going in the sports gambling world. I would say I 384 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: usually get up about six thirty and then I try 385 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: to do like, you know, ten minutes of stretching, just 386 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: some me time. You know, it's not self love is 387 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: not selfish. Then I'll take my kid to school, come back, 388 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: have a little breakfast, maybe an espresso, a little bit 389 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: of smoke salmon, no bagel or anything, just to smoke salmon, 390 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: some olive oil and lemon on top of that, and 391 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: maybe some overnight oats. Then I'll probably hit the peloton 392 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: or maybe the echelant the rowing machine. Then I take 393 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: a shot or maybe I'll walk the dog, depending if 394 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: my wife is able to do it or not. Then 395 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm in zoom meetings May and June because you know, 396 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: my real job is as an executive, not as uh. 397 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: Podcast blow Hard are all about planning. It's my It's 398 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: honestly so much fun when we're figuring out what we 399 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: want to do during football, when we're in heavy hiring mode. 400 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: We're like thinking strategically and figuring out what's going to 401 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: happen for the rest of the year, getting some deals done. 402 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: It's all blue sky, it's all optimism. You haven't lost 403 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: anything during the NFL season yet where the pressure is 404 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: really intense. So me and June usually executive NG and 405 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: then Matt Mitchell is telling me what we're gonna talk 406 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: about in the podcast. Not Mitchell, You've got anything to 407 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: add to that. I like that you think being a 408 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: podcast blowhard, it's just a it's just a barnacle on 409 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: your professional ship. That's nice. That's nice that you find 410 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: time to squeeze that in. It's one to in my 411 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: brain power. Isn't it like that for everybody? Let's see 412 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: in the last few seasons. This is from Connor, there 413 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: have been times when NFL games have become unwatchable. Completely agree, 414 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: from so many delays in the action, replay reviews, injury, 415 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: time outs, penalties, commercial breaks. As a game bring viewer, 416 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: it can even be tough to finish the game start 417 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: to finish. Could not agree more. Do we foresee any 418 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: changes in the NFL's and entertainment products in the years 419 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: to come faster games? Is the money involved too large 420 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: to expect meaningful changes. I think they'll be changes. I 421 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to do with money. I think 422 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: like the product just needs to improve. Last year you 423 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: could see they were making too many holding calls. Earlier 424 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: in the year, it was stopping every fucking game. The 425 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: year before it was the p I s like it 426 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: was really interminable. How they call these games, and it 427 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: becomes unwatchable because of that. So to me, I think 428 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: they'll reevaluate as they always do, how aggressive their calling 429 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: penalties and the impact that has in the flow of 430 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: the game. Connor, my friend, don't be anxious. Were you 431 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: in the rush? Where are you going? Why is chatting 432 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: a rush? You guys have nothing to do, you have 433 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: nowhere to go, There's nothing going on. So I'm the 434 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: other way. It's like, I don't care. I just want 435 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: them to get these games right. Like my biggest pet 436 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: peeve is fandom calls or calls deciding games. Like, I'm 437 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: with you on that. That's some of this rough freestoff. 438 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: There's too much money involved, like they have to clean up. 439 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: I can't tell me any bets last year that you know, 440 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: people had a bad taste in their mouth because it 441 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: felt like a referee decided a game at the end 442 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: of the game. So I'm with you on that. But 443 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: the commercial breaks all that other stuff, It's just like, 444 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, it feels like that's if that's the 445 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: price we pay for a great product. It's like, I'm 446 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: cool with it, but I feel like everyone gets the 447 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: NFL at this point. It's like if a team goes 448 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: three and out and it's a Monday night game. They 449 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: don't care the other team just went three and out. 450 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna show another commercial afterwards. So yeah, it drives 451 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: me a little crazy, but that's what cell phones are for. 452 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: Just look at your phone for two minutes and then 453 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: look up. Look football is back on. So I try 454 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: not to be too down about all the commercial breaks 455 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: because I get it. It's all a product. You're so 456 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: wise and patient, Simon. I try, Chad. If I hadn't 457 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: been assigned that March Madness Vegas story back in your 458 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: magazine days, would your career play out differently. I wasn't 459 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: even assigned it. It was a trade a buddy of 460 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: mine named Brendan O'Connor, who was an editor of the 461 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: magazine as well. I had been to sign the story, 462 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: and then he got a sign a bigger story. He 463 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: wanted to go do a feature on the Catcher Jason Kendall, 464 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: who played for the Pirates. So he was going to 465 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: go do that bigger story and asked me if I 466 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: would do the Vegas story. He gave me all of 467 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: his notes. It was great, and if I don't do that, 468 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: I end up not writing the book. The odds because 469 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: it was based on one of the guys I profiled 470 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: in the magazine story. Then I don't learn anything about betting. 471 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't learn anything about this shadow world. I don't 472 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: start blogging about it, tving about it, podcasting about it. 473 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: None of it. It's not part of my life. So yeah, 474 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: a d total game changer. You've got this one from 475 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: John which I thought of it did think of a 476 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: name for us. It's if Chad and Simon were traveling 477 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: comedy act, what would their name be? I came up with. 478 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: Simon says, don't be a Chad. Why does it have 479 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: to be mean about me? Because Chad's a hated name. 480 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: It's just your fault. It's just what the world's become. 481 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: So Simon says, don't be a chat. I feel like 482 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: it gets both of our names. It's both things we 483 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: hated because I hated Simon says growing up, I know 484 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Chad hates don't be a Chad. So it's a perfect combo. 485 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: That is a great That is a great idea, Simon. 486 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: I feel like Matt Mitchell would have a field day 487 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: writing comedy gold for us for that for that act 488 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: T shirt. Now that's already being a man into a 489 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: T shirt. Such a good idea merch merch alert, true story. 490 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: New York magazine did um a story about the phrase 491 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: Chad and like the female equivalent was a Stacy, my 492 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: wife's name. That's crazy. So uh, she's cut out like 493 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: the headline from that and put on our bulletin board. 494 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: And our kids troll us as you can imagine about 495 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: that all the time. I love it. Great questions, keep 496 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: them coming. We will try to do one more male 497 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: Bag before we get to the end of the season, 498 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: but even if we don't, we can answer questions throughout 499 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the year. This has been the favorite 500 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: podcast from the Volume podcast network. I am Chad Millman. 501 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: He is Simon Hunter for producer Matt Mitchell. Download the 502 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: podcasts from Apple, podcast, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast, 503 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: rate review, subscribe to give us five stars. Say whatever 504 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: you want. Feedback is a gift until that time, Love 505 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: you ye