WEBVTT - #771 Packers Unscripted: Offseason on offense

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here

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<v Speaker 1>from our studios at Lambeufield, Wes. The draft is in

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<v Speaker 1>the books, The Rookie Mini Camp is in the books.

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<v Speaker 1>This week we have been hearing from It's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the one off season opportunity to hear from the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>assistant coaches, the coordinators, and the position coaches. We heard

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<v Speaker 1>from offensive defensive coordinator Adam Stenovich Jeff Hafley on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from the offensive assistance on Wednesday. Later today,

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<v Speaker 1>after we are done taping this show, we will hear

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<v Speaker 1>from the defensive assistance, and we may have more to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about them next week because there are several new

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<v Speaker 1>faces in that box that we haven't gotten to know yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll just toss that toss this out to you

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<v Speaker 1>as an open ended thing from the first couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days of assistant coach availability, any particular coach or message

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<v Speaker 1>or thought thread that stands out to you in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what we've heard from those who are working with

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<v Speaker 1>the players here during offseason workouts.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom clements his address of the media, and I I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Tom is always a total professional and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the very best that there is when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>coaching quarterbacks. But there's been something about this second run

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<v Speaker 2>he's had with Green Bay. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>just we're back to him coaching quarterbacks again. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>cover him when he was Rogers quarterbacks coach. He was

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<v Speaker 2>already offensive coordinator at that point. But the way he

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<v Speaker 2>dives into it and makes it really digestible in what,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of identifying not just the some open

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<v Speaker 2>ended platitudes about Jordan Love, but really going into why

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<v Speaker 2>he improved through the course of last season. And he

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<v Speaker 2>brought up that statistic Mike about you know, they go

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<v Speaker 2>back and look at this film in these cutups, and

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<v Speaker 2>they can bring break down the percentages of how many

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<v Speaker 2>times he rolls out, how many times he extends a play,

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<v Speaker 2>is he running, is he passing? Whears his eyes And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, he used the ninety five percent

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<v Speaker 2>analogy that when he was breaking the pocket the first

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<v Speaker 2>half of the season, ninety five percent of the time

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<v Speaker 2>he was using his legs. But as the season went on,

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<v Speaker 2>they worked through some of the fundamentals of that he's

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<v Speaker 2>looking downfield more and creating more big plays for his receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always going to be a balance, Certainly, somebody with

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<v Speaker 2>Love's athleticism and four to seven speed, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>want to be able to use your legs. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you and I have broken down and looked at all

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<v Speaker 2>these things and talked so many times about the run

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<v Speaker 2>that Jordan Love got on in the second half of

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<v Speaker 2>the season, I think sometimes me personally, I won't speak

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<v Speaker 2>for you, but you lose sight of well, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty five, twenty four into twenty five year old

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback who's also making week to week progress as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I thought, and we heard this from coach

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<v Speaker 1>Clements last year as well, when he was being asked

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<v Speaker 1>about Jordan Love and how are things going with how

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<v Speaker 1>he's running the offense and stuff. And Tom is always

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<v Speaker 1>very very intentional, very deliberate about talking about not just

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback, even though that's the position he coaches, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the entire offense. And we heard from him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot last year and then again this week about

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<v Speaker 1>how it wasn't just about Jordan's progress that made the

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<v Speaker 1>offense go It was all of these young receivers and

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends, and there was the shuffling going on on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line and young players playing key spots on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line that needed to sort of get their

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<v Speaker 1>legs under them, and as you know, the route running

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<v Speaker 1>got crispered, the decisions on choice routes, the reading of coverages.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not just Jordan Love who's reading the coverages.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the guys running the routes who are reading the

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<v Speaker 1>coverages too. And that's you know, the cliches of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>guys getting on the same page, et cetera, et cetera. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we hear those phrases a lot, and they are cliches,

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<v Speaker 1>but as I like to say, they're cliches because they're true.

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<v Speaker 1>They they really, they really do reflect what has to

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<v Speaker 1>go on out there for things to click. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I enjoy listening to h I enjoy listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Tom Clements talk about how an entire offense works together.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously he's been an offensive coordinator in this league

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He hasn't just been a quarterbacks coach, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's a darn good quarterbacks coach. And you get the

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<v Speaker 1>sense even though Tom has you know, he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>very dry sense of humor. He's always very business like

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<v Speaker 1>up there at the podium. But you get the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that even though as long as he has been in

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<v Speaker 1>this business, and he's sort of retired a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times and come back, but with Jordan Love and these

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<v Speaker 1>young guys on offense, he seems to be having a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I don't want to ever put words into

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<v Speaker 2>Tom's well, but to me, if I was in his shoes,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to remember it. When he talks about what

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<v Speaker 2>happened at Arizona when he left, He's like, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that I just told everybody I'm done. He's like, the

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<v Speaker 2>phone wasn't ringing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the guy still got it. I think is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the message that I that I get with him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mentioned this to Mike Heller in a radio

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<v Speaker 2>interview I did earlier this week. I mean, people focus

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<v Speaker 2>so much on Aaron Rodgers in Jordan Love now, but

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<v Speaker 2>you got to remember, I mean, he was the first

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks coach to get his hands on Kyler Murray during

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<v Speaker 2>an offensive Rookie of the Year season, right with the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy's resume goes back so far. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter if it's Aaron Rodgers or a Matt Flynn

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<v Speaker 2>or an offensive rookie of the year, just the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's trying to make his way in the National Football

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<v Speaker 2>League and earn some paychecks as a backup quarterback. Clements's

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<v Speaker 2>job is to make sure that he prepares all these dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>So not only just having Jordan Love now, but now

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<v Speaker 2>he gets to work with Sean Clifford. Now they added

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie seventh round pick and Michael Pratt, and now

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<v Speaker 2>with Sean Mannon going into that room of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a veteran quarterback that just recently hung up his cleats

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<v Speaker 2>and is now looking to get into the coaching realm.

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<v Speaker 2>These are all people that Clements can touch and can

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<v Speaker 2>help kind of pass along some of his wisdom. The

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<v Speaker 2>funniest moment Matt Schneidman from the Athletic mentioning to him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're seven years old. You could be on

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<v Speaker 2>a beach so with your feet up, and then Clements,

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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned his dry sense of humor, right equipping back, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I can still have my feet up here too. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, it is a dry sense of humor. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if there's anyone funnier maybe in this building

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<v Speaker 2>pound for pound in Tom clements. He was an excellent lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a brilliant quarterbacks coach. I think the guy could

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<v Speaker 2>have been one heck of a comedian too, if you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go down that route, probably like a Mitch

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<v Speaker 2>Hedberg type.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, pretty much. And the thing is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've enjoyed getting to know him over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was, you know, I got here in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, which is the same year that

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<v Speaker 1>he did as as Mike McCarthy's quarterbacks coach. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed getting to know him. And in looking looking back

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at his background, it's easy to forget, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy isn't just a coach. He was a heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a quarterback in his own right. No, he did

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<v Speaker 1>not make it big in the NFL, but you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a former Notre Dame quarterback who nearly won a

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<v Speaker 1>Heisman Trophy and then one, multiple championships in the Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>Football League, multiple great Canada. He was a league he

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<v Speaker 1>was a league MVP in the CFL, this guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>knew how to play the game when he was playing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he sure as heck knows how to coach it,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at that position.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep in mind too, if I may add, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a really brief cup of coffee with Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>City in the National Football League, But when he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of balling out in the CFL too, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like what it is today with the NFL and the CFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Packers had a first round pick that

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<v Speaker 2>I think went and played in the CFL, right, Clark, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So like it wasn't like, oh he wanted to sit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the guy, the guy was a pretty darn

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<v Speaker 2>good quarterback on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah. Absolutely. Well the other the other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to me, and actually I ended up writing

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<v Speaker 1>a story on this that was posted on our website

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, if you want to check it out on

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot com. It was after hearing from offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Stenovich and some other offensive assistants have followed up

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<v Speaker 1>on it, but just talking about and it's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stemmed from some comments Matt Lafleur made after the draft

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<v Speaker 1>about where they are in the off season program with

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<v Speaker 1>the veterans and sort of building the offense, building the

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<v Speaker 1>playbook for twenty twenty four and just how different everything

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<v Speaker 1>is this year compared to a year ago, not only

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<v Speaker 1>because Jordan Love has a year under his belt and

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<v Speaker 1>they have, you know, nineteen games including playoffs of all

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<v Speaker 1>of the film of Jordan Love running the offense, seeing

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<v Speaker 1>what he does well, what he doesn't maybe do quite

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<v Speaker 1>so well. But it's about the offensive coaches knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>they have, Whereas a year ago it was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they knew they were going to have Christian Watson and

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<v Speaker 1>Romeo Dobbs, and they were gonna have Aaron Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>aj Dillon in the backfield, but they didn't really know

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<v Speaker 1>much else because they hear, you know, after the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly you bring in Jaden Reid and Dontavian Wicks and

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Musgrave and Tucker Craft and so then you're sort of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting a late start in piecing this all together.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course, even when you get into the games,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still trying to figure out, what do these guys

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<v Speaker 1>do well, what should we be emphasizing to try to

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<v Speaker 1>put the players in the best position to make some

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<v Speaker 1>things happen. Out there, and so that was all part

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<v Speaker 1>of the evolution in twenty twenty three. Well, now they're

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<v Speaker 1>starting at a completely different point in twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of building the offense, you know, the playbook

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<v Speaker 1>and the adjustments because they know Wes that there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be you know, the cat and mouse game with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to Jordan Love, and this Packers offense is going

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<v Speaker 1>to start in Week one in Brazil against the Philadelphia Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>Because all of the Packers' opponents now they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be studying the Dallas game, They're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>studying that late game, late season game at Minnesota. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be studying these games where the Packers offense looked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like in a completely different place compared to

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<v Speaker 1>September and October. So you're gonna have to have the

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<v Speaker 1>counters to those punches that defenses are gonna throw at you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what the Packers' coaching staff is working on

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<v Speaker 1>now is to okay, what are the variations of the

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<v Speaker 1>different concepts. What can we can line up like this

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna think that we're running this, but we

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<v Speaker 1>can run something else out of it. Instead emphasizing our players'

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<v Speaker 1>strengths along the way. That's where this all is now

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<v Speaker 1>compared to a year ago when the offense was was

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<v Speaker 1>such a great unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's the other aspect of it too, And I

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<v Speaker 2>touched on this an Insider inbox earlier this week too.

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<v Speaker 2>If you recall, you know, how many times how much

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<v Speaker 2>ink did I personally spill on Okay, Well, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of unknowns at receiver and tight end, but they

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<v Speaker 2>got ag Dillon, they got Aaron Jones. Well, the best

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<v Speaker 2>laid plans through the first month of the season, all

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<v Speaker 2>of that goes out of the window, and now suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>you have Christian Watson dealing with the hamstring injury. Romeo

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<v Speaker 2>Dobbs was injured at the beginning of training camp, although

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<v Speaker 2>he ended up getting through that okay, And it ends

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<v Speaker 2>up having to be a lot of young guys that

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<v Speaker 2>you were not expecting. So not only does this allow

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<v Speaker 2>those guys to take this offense in at a more

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable pace, it also opens the door to figure out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now we saw briefly what bo Melton can do. What

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<v Speaker 2>could he potentially add to our offense. Is a more

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<v Speaker 2>consistent piece I don't would never say it's a positive

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<v Speaker 2>that Aaron Jones is not on this roster. But now

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<v Speaker 2>you have Josh Jacobs that's now an unknown for opponents.

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<v Speaker 2>How do the Packers plan to utilize Josh Jacobs. They're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about using a more as a pass catcher, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>getting him more involved in the red zone than he

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<v Speaker 2>was during this time with the Raiders in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>his pass catching ability. Those that explosion of offensive options

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<v Speaker 2>I think is gonna be what's ultimately gonna be Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Love's best friend now in his second year as a starter,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not just the packages and Okay, well we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go two tight ends here and we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>eleven personnel here, and no, it's about, okay, what are

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<v Speaker 2>the personnel within those packages? And that's depending on how

0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.120
<v Speaker 2>the Packers want to flip it and depending on if

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<v Speaker 2>guys are healthy. That's where things get really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I go back to a phrase that that

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<v Speaker 1>always has stuck with me that we heard several times

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<v Speaker 1>when Mike Petton was the defensive coordinator here when he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about whether it was whether it was veteran players

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<v Speaker 1>who you know, are learning a new system or whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's rookies coming from the college game to the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and making that whole adjustment that once you get through

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<v Speaker 1>the first year, then you you start you start getting

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<v Speaker 1>into you know what he what he always called the

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<v Speaker 1>graduate level details of a scheme, right that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not freshman composition anymore. Like you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're working towards that master's degree in the offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I liked about that is not only not only

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<v Speaker 1>was it a description of of the progression in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of in terms of you know, mentally grasping everything, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a reference to you know, you're always you're

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<v Speaker 1>always still in school, You're always learning. Nobody, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody ever or ever necessarily gets completely out of that

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<v Speaker 1>except maybe in Aaron Rodgers after fifteen years as a story,

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<v Speaker 1>then he's writing his own course right exactly exactly. But

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<v Speaker 1>but what the Packers got to last year offensively, with

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<v Speaker 1>all of the playing time that these young guys got,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just the draft picks, but the guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Bo Melton that you mentioned, you know, getting in and

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<v Speaker 1>making a big impact late in the season, is they

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<v Speaker 1>got a whole bunch of young guys that progressed really

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<v Speaker 1>quickly through the undergrad stages and now at a young

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<v Speaker 1>age in the NFL, they're getting into some of the

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<v Speaker 1>graduate level details of what Matt le Fleur and this

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<v Speaker 1>offensive staff want to be able to do schematically, along

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<v Speaker 1>with the growth in the quarterback and being able to

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<v Speaker 1>put potentially even more on Jordan Love's plate in year

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<v Speaker 1>two as a starter compared to year one.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the other common themes throughout the offensive assistant

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<v Speaker 2>availability that really stuck out to me, and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it was Jason Vrabel that was the first one to

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<v Speaker 2>broach this because a lot of questions have been asked about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all these receivers are all in it together, but eventually

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be competing for snaps, they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>competing for footballs, they're gonna be competing for money. But

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<v Speaker 2>as Rabel said, he's like, there is a phrase out

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<v Speaker 2>there about you know, my money touches your money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that is where I look at this

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<v Speaker 2>offense too. Yeah, you want to see a thousand yard

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<v Speaker 2>receiver receiver, you want to see a ten touchdown tight end,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's about how does what Jaden Reid does how

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<v Speaker 2>can that compliment Christian Watson if he's healthy and on

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<v Speaker 2>the field. You know what Romeo Dobbs early in the season,

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<v Speaker 2>as Rabel said, you know, he had seven touchdowns early

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<v Speaker 2>in the season in the red zone. Teams were doubling

0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.680
<v Speaker 2>him and that created opportunities for others as well. For

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we saw last year there was points

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<v Speaker 2>where because of injury, Bo Melton needed to be the

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<v Speaker 2>go to option for this offense. Well, now if you

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<v Speaker 2>have more of those guys available, And again, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>live in a perfect world where no one's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be injured, but you would hope from the Packers' perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>it won't get to the dire straits that it did

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<v Speaker 2>at some points last season. And now we can see

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker Craft and Luke Musgrave out there together, We can

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<v Speaker 2>see all these different combinations of players sort of working together.

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<v Speaker 2>If that can be achieved within this offense, and the

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<v Speaker 2>unselfish nature of Jordan Love and the way they built

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<v Speaker 2>things last year, I felt like that was part of

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<v Speaker 2>the secret sauce. I know the leading receiver had seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ninety three yards or whatever it was, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was how many different guys were involved in this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when you take on a team like the

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas Cowboys who want to really send pressure and they

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<v Speaker 2>want to get in your face, well that's opening up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of one on one opportunities for those type

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<v Speaker 2>of players to make their plays. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then in that playoff game in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>the big wild Card victory, we saw Romeo Dobbs have

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<v Speaker 1>the best game of his two year career. As productive

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<v Speaker 1>as he had been over the course of his first

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<v Speaker 1>two seasons, Romeo Dobbs had not had a one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard individual game as an NFL receiver until the Wildcard

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game over Dallas. And you still you get the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that as much as as much as that can

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<v Speaker 1>obviously help open things up for other guys, but a

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<v Speaker 1>game like that on that big stage could also be

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<v Speaker 1>a big springboard for a guy like Romeo Dobbs to

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<v Speaker 1>take his game to the next level as well. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, and you know Romeo's Romeo

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<v Speaker 1>is a quiet, humble guy. He gets interviewed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room, even though he may not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it all the time. But I've always gotten the

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<v Speaker 1>sense in talking to him. He doesn't necessarily like to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about himself, but I've always gotten the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>he's always felt, even when he's been productive, that he

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<v Speaker 1>could always potentially do more, that there's more out there

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Then when he goes out there on the

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<v Speaker 1>playoff stage and has a game like he had in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>you just wonder if a performance like that in that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of environment, with those kind of stakes in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL for a young receiver in his career, what does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean in terms of a springboard later on?

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<v Speaker 2>The last thing I'll close on with this that impresses

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<v Speaker 2>me about this crew considering this isn't twenty fourteen anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a dozen guys on the roster with

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl rings. The amount of urgency that young guys

0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.880
<v Speaker 2>on this team have showed that understand the opportunity before them. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this was probably more a product of us talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Clark and some of the guys at the tailgate tour,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, they understand that Brian Goudikuns kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hit it out of the park the last two drafts.

0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.840
<v Speaker 2>They knew that the way Matt Lafleur and this coaching

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<v Speaker 2>staff developed players that they were getting uncommon production from rookies,

0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:36.119
<v Speaker 2>first year, second year players. As that door opens, so

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<v Speaker 2>too does a massive opportunity to chase a championship. The

0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Packers are being careful. They don't want they want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep expectations down, you know, they don't want to They

0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want to make this thing bigger than it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is that opportunity there and for young guys

0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.360
<v Speaker 2>showing that maturity to understand, Okay, I'm going to play

0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 2>ten years in the league. I'm gonna have five cracks

0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:57.600
<v Speaker 2>at a super Bowl. No, it's not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's about what's.

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<v Speaker 2>In front of you right now, and if you can

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<v Speaker 2>capitalize on that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to say. It's an interesting

0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting dichotomy in a sense in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the front offices approach and the players approach, because Brian

0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Gudakun's job and his personnel staff's job is to, you know,

0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.879
<v Speaker 1>as they say, with regard to a window with a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback like Jordan Love, it's to keep the competitive window

0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.359
<v Speaker 1>open as long as possible. You want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>run of sustained success to get as many cracks at

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs as you can for that year that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it finally all comes together and you go and win

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<v Speaker 1>a championship. So there's that's the perspective from the personnel

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<v Speaker 1>side of things. The players themselves look at it as, yeah,

0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity is right in front of us. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>about right now, you know. And and you know, the

0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.840
<v Speaker 1>personnel staff that is trying to build the roster, they

0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.720
<v Speaker 1>can't go out there and win the games. They can.

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<v Speaker 1>They do the best they can to put the most

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<v Speaker 1>competitive team on the field that they can. It's up

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to the players, the guys to go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>win the games. And as you said, they sense the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity that's here. As competitive as this this Packers team

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<v Speaker 1>can be, and as far as they got last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and as well as they were playing at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, the opportunity is. The opportunity is definitely there.

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<v Speaker 1>And these guys, these guys aren't looking at it as oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, we'll figure it out one of these years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how That's not how the players. That's not how

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<v Speaker 1>the players operate. That's not their mindset.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing too, I want to mention because Brian

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<v Speaker 2>has been so careful about saying. He's like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>numbers a little higher than they usually are this time

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<v Speaker 2>of the year, and that isn't necessarily always a great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way I look at it, too, is it

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<v Speaker 2>tells you two things. That the Packers had seventy one

0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.959
<v Speaker 2>players on the roster before they went into the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>It tells you that you felt confident enough in the

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<v Speaker 2>players that were in house to let the players that

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<v Speaker 2>left go. And it also tells you that these guys

0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.360
<v Speaker 2>who have been around here have been making the football

0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.200
<v Speaker 2>team in more more often than not, have been making

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:06.000
<v Speaker 2>big contributions. Everybody wants to you know, the Ron Wolf thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to go up a few Draft ten players,

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you want three to be starters. You know, the batting

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<v Speaker 2>average idea. But Michael, you know this. Paul Mallidor went

0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.639
<v Speaker 2>on a hit streak once. I mean, like, if you

0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.879
<v Speaker 2>can bat seven hundred for a stretch, yeah, and the

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.359
<v Speaker 2>long enough timeline, it might work itself back down. But

0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.040
<v Speaker 2>when you're hot, you want to stay hot. And I

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.680
<v Speaker 2>just feel like, again, we'll let this new draft class

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:28.720
<v Speaker 2>come in and perform and see what they can add

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.439
<v Speaker 2>to this thing. But it's such a massive opportunity that

0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.119
<v Speaker 2>the Packers have right now, and I think everybody understands that,

0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.080
<v Speaker 2>whether you want a verbalizer or not, obviously you want

0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 2>to keep this thing chill for players. You want them

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.240
<v Speaker 2>to focus on what's in front of them. What happened

0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 2>at the end of last season does not guarantee that

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<v Speaker 2>it will happen again at the beginning of this season.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to manage the expectations. You have to manage

0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the outside noise. You have to be realistic about how

0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>long a seventeen game season is and that no, you

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>don't just get to start in week one where you

0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.840
<v Speaker 1>left off last January. That's not how this works. Everybody

0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is starting over, include you. You have to earn everything

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and every opportunity that you get along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's fun about that, Mike, You're out in this community.

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm out in this community. The vibe that is a

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Brown Packers fans right now, oh last year, hopeful optimism,

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Hopeful that Jordan is going to be the guy, Hopeful

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.440
<v Speaker 2>that that one quick appearance against the Philadelphia Eagles is

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:23.399
<v Speaker 2>going to be enough from that to actual legitimate confidence

0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.240
<v Speaker 2>and excitement about this season.

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>That training camp is still two and a half months away,

0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, how many people in inbox have written the

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<v Speaker 2>ball how exciting it was to get back to the draft,

0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 2>How exciting it wasn't see teams players back on the

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<v Speaker 2>field for Rookie minni caamp, even if they were the

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 2>first year guys.

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<v Speaker 1>offseason schedule at this point? Because we're talking about the

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>players being around, the coaches are around. So this week

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<v Speaker 1>after the Rookie minute, right after the Rookie mini camp,

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the rookies are actually off then the players are players

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:37.439
<v Speaker 1>are going through their offseason workouts. They're doing you know,

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>position work with their coaches, et cetera. Next week the

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:45.959
<v Speaker 1>rookies then join the veterans for those offseason workouts, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the week after that is the start of OTAs,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really the first time in the off season

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<v Speaker 1>program where you can have eleven on eleven reps. You

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 1>can have you can have the offense and the defense

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>out there. It's still pads, you know, non contact and whatnot,

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>but you can actually run, you know, run eleven on

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.479
<v Speaker 1>eleven sort of, you know, scrimmage stuff in shorts and helmets.

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So you get three weeks of OTAs. The way things

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<v Speaker 1>have worked media wise in the past, one OTA per

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>week is open to the media and then we get

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 1>access to the locker room to do interviews, so as

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>we get closer to the end of May, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to reconnect with the veteran players see some of

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 1>these OTA workouts. And then in the middle of June

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you have the mandatory mini camp, which for the packers

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>is scheduled from June eleven to June thirteen. And then

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>when the mandatory mini camp is over, then that's essentially

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 1>the end of the off season program and then you

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<v Speaker 1>have the big break before everybody comes back for training

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 1>camp and I hit the bar late July, yeah, or

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>other places finding places to put our feet up, like

0:23:54.080 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Tom Clements. The other thing we are hearing, not making

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<v Speaker 1>any declarations by any means, but we are hearing that

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like the NFL is going to be releasing

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty four schedule next week sometime. So maybe

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 1>on one of our shows next week, we'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to talk about the twenty twenty four schedule beyond

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<v Speaker 1>Week one in Brazil and just how this whole, uh,

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 1>this whole slate is going to line up. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>your big ask of the NFL big as before the

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Brazil game was announced, was can Matt Lafleur please open

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<v Speaker 1>a Packer season at home in Week one? Well that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen because because we're headed to Brazil in early September.

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<v Speaker 1>So beyond that wild way, yeah, I know, ye're six,

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.199
<v Speaker 1>I know, six, sixth year as a head coach and

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 1>he has yet to have a home game in Week

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<v Speaker 1>one at Lambeau.

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>And the Packers requested it in eighteen when Mike McCarthy's

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 2>last season with the last tiame They're Home.

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 1>The Packers requested it, Yeah, requested as the as against

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the Bears as the first game of the one hundred season,

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and that was the last time the Packers had Week

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<v Speaker 1>one at home. So with that out the window, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any requests for the scheduling deities of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL that you would like to see when we supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get our hands on this schedule next

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<v Speaker 1>week sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin I'm going to this camera. Please, I am begging you.

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<v Speaker 2>Week four, no Thursday night football game the National is

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.919
<v Speaker 2>playing in Madison. If there, if I have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Brazil. And then three weeks later the NFL decides

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to drop a Thursday night football game on the night

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 2>that the National is playing in Madison, I am going

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:47.239
<v Speaker 2>to lose my mind. Other than that, uh No. I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to my dad last night. I was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>could we maybe not get a Christmas game either this year?

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Four years in a row, we've either been traveling on

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Christmas or it's been Christmas Eve that we've played. Yeah,

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 2>something like no Christmas game would be good, but but hey.

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 1>That Christmas thing on Wednesday, whatever teams end up getting scheduled,

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that that whole thing is just gonna be weird because

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<v Speaker 1>that because you're gonna get late in the season and

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna have a Saturday game followed by a

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday game on Christmas, followed by then, you know, like

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>a week and a half before your next game, when

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you could be right in the midst of you know,

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the playoff chase and wild card and division title implications.

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>So whatever whatever teams end up playing on Christmas, with

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas being on a Wednesday this year in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that there will be games scheduled on that day,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just gonna be a weird deal. Like, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping it's not us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be serious now for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, not that I wasn't serious. I was gonna say,

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 1>you're pretty I just said, you're pretty serious about that

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>concert you you need to go to in late September.

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I just missed the NF concert last night in Milwaukee.

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 2>My friend Tessa Rue had had tickets for it available.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get down there for it. It's tough to

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<v Speaker 2>be a sports writer sometimes, but no all joking aside,

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<v Speaker 2>I would love, love, love to see Week two Packers

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Detroit Lions at Lambeufield. Okay, the Packers at lambeau Field

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 2>is a must under no circumstances. Can there be a

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>schedule out of the nine hundred nine ninety five thousand

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>different machinations of these calculations they come up with for

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 2>schedules if they go back to back road games after Brazil.

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's there's there's no there's no way, there's just

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>there's no way. Let's go Week two is okay.

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be really fun to have that Lions matchup.

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I said this an Insider inbox this morning, Michael. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the NFL got it right last year. They

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>put Detroit in Kansas City in Week one as the opener.

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Detroit lived up to those high expectations everybody had for them.

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>It was a great game, and they certainly showed that that.

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>That big win of Theirs over the Chiefs at Arrowhead

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>was no fluke. Yeah, no doubt that Lions team was

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty darn good.

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Chris Jones could have maybe worked out that contract a

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 2>week earlier, maybe the different things a little different.

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that might have that might have helped the

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Packers in the NFC North Chase.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 2>But yes, just maybe, but be that as it may.

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I just I really I look for balance with these schedules, Michael.

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I look for mid season bys. I just look for

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 2>some allowance to get into a rhythm. And I feel

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 2>like more often than not, I'm not saying anything's out

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>against the Packers. Everybody draws the short straw, but there's

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>just been some really interesting Week fourteen byes, Week five bys.

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 2>It just it's been all over the map. If you

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<v Speaker 2>could just get a little bit more parody with it,

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>no huge weird swings home games, road games, I feel

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 2>like that could be something that could help this football.

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna go the opposite of you with regard

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to your Week two Lions thing. I want the Lions

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>game the Lions visit to lambeau Field this year to

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>be Week eighteen in the cold. You know, you know

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>that Week eighteen is going to be a division game, right,

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the way it is across the league. So it's

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be Bears, Vikings or Lions with the with

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the with the Packers and Lions presumably being you know,

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the two favorites for the NFC North. If the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>wants to put the Packers and Lions in Week eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>put it at Lambo not at Ford Field, please, Yeah,

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that'd be really cool. That works for me.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Any chance we go back to Detroit for Thanksgiving again,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think would they do that back to back years.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to back? It's I said, in my time, I

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>have covered I have covered Packers lines on Thanksgiving in Detroit.

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's at least five times, but it has

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>never been in back to back years before. So I

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's gonna happen, but can't rule it out.

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, with that Thanksgiving night game thing, I

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>mean maybe who knows, maybe Lambo's going to get a

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving game again like we had back in twenty fifteen

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>for the years. So yeah, it's been nine years. The

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Brett Favre number retirement thing was on that rainy Thanksgiving

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>night at Lambo against Chicago. So anyway, it's.

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Like the only game that Bears have won at Lambo too.

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 2>And like my kid's lifetime, your kid wasn't even boring

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>boring yet never mind. Yeah, I don't know Killian, I

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he's seen the Packers lose yet against

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the Bears, has he not?

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not? Maybe not?

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>December of seventeen, off to look that one up. Yeah,

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 2>get our stats and infot apartment on that one.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, we've got just to let everybody know Wes

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and I are working on some of our follow up

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>stories with regard to our draft picks. Wes posted a

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Morgan story this week. I believe that one up

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>on the website on Wednesday, correct tomorrow. I've got a

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>follow up story on Jacob Month, the fifth round offensive

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>lineman from Duke. Early next week, We're going to have

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>stories on some of the DB's Javon Bullard, Kaylin King.

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So keep an eye out for for those draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>follow up stories as we head the rest of this

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>week and into next week. And then maybe we're going

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>to find out about that schedule for twenty twenty four.

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And if we don't, I'm gonna lose my mind.

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>So with that, we'll call it a rap on this

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Packers Unscripted'd be sure to follow all of

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<v Speaker 1>our coverage of the team on Packers dot com. For

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<v Speaker 1>Wes'm Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We will

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time

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<v Speaker 2>M HM.