1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle. On Giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: dot com, the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to the Giant 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Subtle Podcast. My name is John Schmelk. Today's guest is 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: former NFL scout Brian brought us before we get to 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Brian went around. Everybody can find the Giant Suttle Podcast 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: on Giants dot com, Slash Podcast, your favorite podcast platforms, 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: and on the Giants mob Blap. And as a reminder, 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: if you like our draft coverage, our new podcast, Draft Season, 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: featuring myself, Tony Pauline, and Eric Crocker is no longer 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: on your Giant Huddle feeds, so go subscribe to it 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: on its own separate podcast feed. It's called Draft Season. 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Make sure you go check that out. So for those 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: of you who've been following our coverage, we've had a 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: lot of people on talking draft. We do some analytics, 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: we do some modern stuff, you know, Ford thinking things. 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: So I figured anything that changes up and get the 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: crustiest old scout I could find and get him on 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: the show. Uh. He's a former Super Bowl champion with 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: the Packers. I believe he's been credited with discovering bart 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: star back in the back in the fifties. He has. 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Brian brought us, who's a host with the g Bag 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Nation on one or five point through the fan down 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: in Dallas. Former NFL scout for the Packers, Dallas Cowboys, 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: among others. Good buddy of mine. I just like chopping 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: up with him. It's always a fun forty five minutes 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: or so when we do this before the draft every year. Brian, 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: it's good to talk to you, man. How are you, John, 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you, you know. I mean, 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I think you go back to me. You and I 30 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: were like doing these, uh these talks before they receiving 31 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: podcasts and stuff. So if I'm crusty, I think my 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: my host here is a little crusty too. But absolutely 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: love talking the draft with you. Um. I always learned 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: a lot about about division opponents as well. That's something 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: that always serves me. So thank you for having me 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: on this time. Yeah. Absolutely, we were rubbing elbows before 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: they moved all those combine player interviews in the Confession center, 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: when it was in that little room at the r 39 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: c A Dome, right, Yes, absolutely, absolutely, all right, So 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: let's start here, and I think this is an interesting 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: place to start the Cowboys obviously, and that's kind of 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: your focus. But you do the whole draft. As you 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: told me before we start, you've watched almost a hundred 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: eight players. Now, how if you're the giant situation and 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: you have Andrew Thomas and you're happy with them the 46 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: left tackle, you're gonna stick them there right and you're 47 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: looking for a guy you want to plug and play 48 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: a right tackle, how would you Former NFL scout Brian 49 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: brought us look at the top three guys in this class, 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Neil aquanie Cross. If you're looking for a guy to 51 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: plug and play at a right tackle, you know, I 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: think the guy that right tackled it would probably make 53 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: the most sense would be Neil to me, I know, 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: and I know he played left tackle at at Alabama 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But you know, to me, you watch, 56 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, his physical presence, the mass, the size, you know, 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better suited to play over there. 58 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the other two across 59 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: the kumu, they're they're a little bit more of a 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: little bit better foot athlete, you know. So you know, 61 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: but to me, John, you know all three of those guys, 62 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: and it's it's funny because is I always used to 63 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: say this, It's like, you know, what's your favorite flavor 64 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: of ice cream? You know, I mean your Rocky Road 65 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: is my ment chocolate chip. But you know we're seeing 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: the same We both like ice cream, you know what 67 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I think that with you know, when 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: you look at those players, there's certain traits that you had. Now. 69 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: To me, when I look at cross from Mississippi State, 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: I see young Tyrant Smith, you know, And that's that's 71 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: kind of where my focus is because it's the cowboys, 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: and the cowboys bring Cross in on a thirty visit 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: and I'm starting to wonder, WHOA, WHOA? What are we 74 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: doing here? Is there's something I'm missing about Crosses? You know, 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: to me, everything was about I never saw any mock 76 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: drafts where he wasn't in the top ten. If all 77 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: those tackles were just how we're order, you wanted to 78 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: put him in. But I think if to your to 79 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: your question, you know, I think Neil would be the 80 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: one guy that I would put at the right tackle spot. 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, man, I you honestly and 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: I hate writing fences because I don't like it at all. 83 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: I I would take any one of those kids. I really, really, 84 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: really do think that anyone of those kids can plug 85 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: and play and you'd have a long time offensive tack Now, Brian, 86 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Cross is actually the best 87 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: past protector of the three, to be honest with you, 88 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: So I think if you're looking for starting left tackle 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: for me, he's my guy at that spot. And I 90 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: think a Quanti is the guy where all right, well, 91 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: if he fails out of tackle, I feel most comfortable 92 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: putting him in a guard like I can see him 93 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: being a dominant guard. So I do think that is 94 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: very much of what are you looking for in your 95 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: player is going to impact on on on who you draft. 96 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, I've been everyone one that's come on. I've 97 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: talked him about this. I had a debate with Daniel 98 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: Jeremiah at the combine about this too, and he he 99 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: was on walk up before everyone else. He loves him, 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: and dude, I don't see it. I watched the tape. 101 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: You barely get any snaps where he's even lined up 102 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: as an edgy guy. I get the size, I get 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the athleticism. You see the athleticism on tape, but pass 104 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: rushing is a skill too, right, and I'm gonna of 105 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: trouble picking him over a Cabon thib it All. I'm 106 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: even gonna struggle picking him over Jermaine Johnson, who I've 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: seen be productive on the edge and get sacks at 108 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: a high level in college. Give me the scouts perspective. 109 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: Why is everyone all over Traymont Walker? Please? Yeah, And 110 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: I'll throw another guy on there. You know, I do 111 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of work with Dame Burglow. You know, he 112 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: worked with the Athletic and you know, and Dane was 113 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: on him from the jump. I mean Dane, then Daniel, 114 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: Jeremiah and these guys. And you know, it's funny because 115 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: when you when I talked to my little other crusty 116 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: buddies that are still in the league doing this, they're 117 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, I mean, I know there 118 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: was a lot of these mock drafts, and again focusing 119 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: on Dallas myself at twenty four, you know, I'm thinking 120 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Walker was a name that was constantly there at Dallas, 121 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: constantly boom boom boom, and then all of a sudden, 122 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: I see my drafts where he's like the sixteenth best guy, 123 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, well, then next thing. He's get 124 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: the Lions at two luck he broke the footnam at one, 125 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: And I'm going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, guys, what 126 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: are we? What are we doing here? Are we pumping 127 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: air into a guy that's for some reason his all 128 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden miraculously become better than Hutchinson at Michigan 129 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: or Thibodeau and Oregon or any of these guys. And 130 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: you're right about like Johnson and guys like that. Now 131 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: I am Walker myself. I mean, he's always been like 132 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: him and Karloftis have always been that guy for me. 133 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: That's you know, there's a difference, and I you know, 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: I I respect Walker. I mean, you can throw the 135 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: Georgia tapon. You can draft any one of those Georgia players, 136 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: the linebackers and defensive tackles and stuff like that. But 137 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of feel like the best trade 138 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: that Walker has is his ability to run, his ability 139 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: to chase, his ability to make plays from the back side. 140 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: You seeing Nickel packages and stuff where they put him 141 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: at the no just as a three man line just 142 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: to try and get some quickness as a rusher. Now 143 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: you're telling me one of your best pass rushers. They're 144 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: kicking inside it knows. Maybe they're looking at matchups, you know. 145 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but this, the rise of Tremale Walker 146 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: to where he is now is simply amazing. And I 147 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't had any of my crusty say hey, man, 148 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: if you take it a look at that Walker kid 149 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: from you know, usually they'll remind you of like and 150 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: they did it with Johnson with me from Florida State. 151 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: They said, hey, listen, there's some things you're going to 152 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: really really like about this kid, and there's gonna be 153 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: some things you don't like. But again, a kid that 154 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: transferred from Georgia to Florida State in order to to 155 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: have to make you know, to to get you know, 156 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: playing time and stuff like that. But this one, this 157 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: rise on Walker, has been amazing to me, not with you. 158 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's fascinating. Who else would 159 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: you consider Brian in your top blue chip group as 160 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: we talk last year, and even you take the quarterbacks 161 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: out of the mix, right, I had Slater, Soul, the 162 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: two corners, three wide. If they're all in that blue 163 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: chip group right this year, I'm struggling to get to 164 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: five when I'm talking to blue choppers, How many true 165 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: blue choppers do you have in this class? Yeah, you know, 166 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: I think that you're I think you know, we mentioned 167 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: about those offensive tackles. I think there's all some kinds 168 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: of faults along the way. The only quarterback I have 169 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: personally is I have corral as my number one quarterback. 170 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: He's my only first round quarterback. How do you have 171 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: in that first round? You know, it's one of those 172 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: things I mentioned, those tackles. I think there's a couple 173 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: of those wide receivers that I would absolutely take. I'm 174 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: a big Jamison Williams fan from alb He's my number one, 175 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: and I love Wilson from Ohio State. Burks is a 176 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a different tat, you know. I mean 177 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: what's interesting is Birks is kind of a four five 178 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: two guy speed wise. But then you start to think 179 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: in this day age of how players are being used 180 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: now again, I you know, your head coach has creativity 181 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: in the way he uses players. We saw that at Buffalo. 182 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: My coach here in Dallas, Kelly Moore, I don't know 183 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: if he has the creativity to use a guy like Birds, 184 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: but as a player. Now again, Thibodeau Hutchinson. I really 185 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: do think that if you talk about Sauce, Gardner would 186 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: be the other one that I with the cornerback. I mean, 187 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: and I'll give you a little hint because I'm an 188 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: l s U man and I have connections down there 189 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: about Stingley Stanley. The questions that pro scouts have about 190 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: Stingley and they're asking people in Baton Rouge about is 191 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: does he really really love football? They'll tell you he 192 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: loves football, but he's not an alpha male guy, so 193 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: he needs a big brother. He needs somebody that can 194 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: put his arm around him, you know. And that's why 195 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: I kind of target look at Minnesota there right now 196 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: like that, yeah, and then yeah, you got Patrick Peterson 197 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: there in Minnesota to kind of put an arm around him. 198 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: So Minna Soda might be a team. If you're mock drafting, 199 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: they think about Stanley a team that needs a corner. 200 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: But you're right, I've got just twenty first round grades 201 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: on my board. That's it, you know. And I usually 202 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: there might be some drafts, there might be twenty two, three, 203 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: maybe twenty five names. But this year, with the really 204 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: the lack of quarterbacks, I think that people are kind 205 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: of sleeping on Linderball myself. He's not for everybody, but 206 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: I know the deficiencies that he has. I trust him more, 207 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: and again, looking from a Dallas perspective, I trust him 208 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: more than I trust those two guards Green from Texas 209 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: A and m Zion Johnson from Boston College. I think 210 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: that I think that's a great transition here, Brian. So 211 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about that because I think with linder 212 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: bamb first, it's a traits versus tape conversation, right, So 213 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: talk about as a scout when you send in your 214 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: report and your you know, draft meetings are starting here, 215 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, with the Giants this weekend, and you're sitting 216 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: there and you're trying to sell your GM, trying to 217 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: sell your coaches on a player, how do you guys 218 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: on ones out the traits which with linder Bomb not great, 219 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: with tape which with linder Bomb awesome. Yeah, you know, 220 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: it's a it's a really good question because to me, 221 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, in we laughed about the crusty nous of 222 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: me as a scout, been doing this since nine. You know, 223 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: I would have never in my wildest dreams. John, And 224 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: you know this too from you know, you with the 225 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: bill parcels and things like that, you understand that even 226 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: Coughlin with what he did, you know, this is a 227 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: big man's game. And then all of a sudden we 228 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: started drafting Kyler Murray. You know at quarterback in my day, 229 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray would have never ever ever got a snip, 230 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: would have never been the first overall player. You know, 231 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: maybe even you know it was remember when Michael Vick 232 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: was coming in and it was like, well, man, the 233 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: guy could move, can he throw? Can he you know, 234 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: all these kinds of things, and you can kind of 235 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: say the same thing about you know, as a scout, 236 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: you know you have to like, Okay, my history tells 237 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: me I've played with huge centers. I mean the Giants. 238 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: How about Charlie Ward in the early nineties. Right, there's 239 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: no question, no question. See that's what I'm saying. They're 240 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: these they're these shorter players that you know, you look 241 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: at him, Roquan Smith. You look at these guys and 242 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: you're like, no way, uh Dean in this draft the 243 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: linebacker from Georgia, he's five eleven four, he still almost 244 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: see he's six foot and you're thinking, like, man, he's 245 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: a first round guy, and you're like, you know, the 246 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: old scouts going, man, I don't know Lloyd is taller 247 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: from Utah. He's six three. But to to your to 248 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: your question, you know, with linder Bamp, I've never in 249 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: all my years of scouting seen a player that traits 250 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: deficient as him, that plays as well as he does 251 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: on tape. There are guys in history that haven't run 252 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: particularly well wide receivers that you know, Larry Fitzgerald didn't 253 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: run particularly well coming out of pitch, but he has 254 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame type career, you know. So those 255 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: are the types of things you you know, when you're 256 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: selling these players and selling a guy like linder Bomb, 257 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, there's some smaller centers that have played 258 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: in this league and they've had some success. But man, 259 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: linder Bomb, when you start to talk about with the 260 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: scouts that the range where he could be picked is 261 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: either in the top fifteen or he could be all 262 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: the way down to the bottom of the board. You know, 263 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: there's that range and he's not for everybody. But if 264 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: you watch as you go in and try and sell him, 265 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: you're selling tape, you really are. You're not selling short arms. 266 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: And and and undersize and lock weight and all that. 267 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: You're selling him cutting defenses in half, getting to the 268 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: second level, scoop block reach, block three technique, wide technique. Guys, 269 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: you're showing that on tape and your guys are like going, oh, 270 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: I get it. You know he is he You know 271 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey from Oklahoma was a player that was drafted 272 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: you know Kansas States, a left handed center, massive guy, 273 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: big guy. Every's like, oh, I want world's Creed Humphrey, Guys, Linderbaum. 274 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: It's not for everybody, but man, when you watch the tape, 275 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. It is, all right, So let' let's 276 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: talk about the two guards then, Zion Johnson and Green. 277 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm not as big on Green as 278 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: everyone else. I just I don't think he moves that well, Brian, 279 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's he's that great of a movie. 280 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: He's powerful, and I think you know, in pass pro 281 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: he can get into some trouble. You know, I'm curious 282 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: why you don't have a first round grade on Zion Johnson. 283 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: And I'll give you my evaluation. I think he's an 284 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: extremely safe player. Like I don't see any scenario where 285 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Zion Johnson fails. Um, I'm not sure if I see 286 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: the raw power where I think he's gonna be a 287 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, All Pro type player. But if I know 288 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: late in the first round, then I'm gonna get a 289 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be a good starting guard for me 290 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: for twelve years. He's not gonna have any Emmy's. Uh. 291 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a good guy in the locker room. 292 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: He's can maybe even play center for you if you needed. 293 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: He did that the Senior Bowl. To me, that is 294 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: a in this draft class especially, that's a really safe, 295 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: you know pick between twenty and thirty that you're gonna 296 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: go home and you're gonna feel good about for a 297 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, you know, I feel like though to me, 298 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: and I'm probably going to die. I'm probably gonna die 299 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: on the Zion Johnson hill, you know. And because I 300 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: I to me, I was curious. And and again if 301 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: you go back and there's some really really smart people 302 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: in this this draft to cover the draft. And there's 303 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: a guy Bruce Fellman that writes for The Athletic and 304 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: I encourage folks, if you're really interesting, you have a 305 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: subscription and you can find it. Bruce did a mock 306 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: draft of talking uh, but Bruce is tied into college coaches, 307 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: not pro coaches or pro scouts. He did a mock 308 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: draft and he did it and then but he got 309 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: comments about from opponents of these players. And Zion Johnson 310 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: went in net mock draft twenty three to Arizona, right 311 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: ahead of the Cowboys. And so the comments that were 312 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: made by college coaches is like really telling to some 313 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: of the things where you're thinking, like, hum, maybe this 314 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: guy does have It made me feel a little bit 315 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: better about a player that I don't think he fully 316 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: trusts himself. I think there's times when you when there's 317 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: like there's a little bit of a hesitation getting into 318 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: his guy. Is there a little bit of that? Did 319 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: he did he see that the right way? You know? 320 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: And if you go back and you look at some 321 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: of those comments those coaches college coaches made of the opponents, 322 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: it was like does he always see things well? Does 323 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the run through has happened? Does he miss things that 324 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: he should have seen? Is the awareness really really there? 325 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm willing to die on that hill 326 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: and Dallas can very well take him. Like I said green, 327 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Zion Johnson, both guys in for thirty visits Dallas has 328 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: a glaring need it right or to get left guard. 329 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, does it make a lot of sense. I personally, 330 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: you know you mentioned about with Green, I think he 331 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: has a little bit better feel than what Zion Johnson. 332 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: As you see him passing stunts and twists and things, 333 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: and you're watching the tape they're playing. You know, they're 334 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: playing Alabama, they're playing these the old mrs are playing 335 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: an SEC schedule of Texas A and M. And you're 336 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: seeing him play tackle against Alabama and guard against l 337 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: s U. And you know, so you're seeing all these 338 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: things and you're kind of like going, Okay, to me, 339 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: he's a much better guard. But the things like I say, 340 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the comparisons with him and Zion Johnson, I mean, 341 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: the tags are touching. But man, I just feel so 342 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: much better, you know, so much better if you said 343 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: plug and play boom this guy. And again I could 344 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: be really really wrong about Zion Johnson. I just don't 345 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: have him in my top twenty guys. Uh, and my 346 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: and my board. Uh could he be when I stack it, 347 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: We'll see. But I just there's that little bit of 348 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: that that question mark about him as a player, and 349 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: then the same question works about a little bit about 350 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: Green from Texas A and m No. I think that's fair. 351 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: Let's stick on on this on this topic here. This 352 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: is a big draft, Brian, and we have this every year. Right, 353 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: We're had the second and third round, fourth round, a 354 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: bunch of guys that played offensive tackle in college. I 355 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: don't have the athletics and play offensive tackle in the pros. 356 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna move him into guard? Um? I am matt 357 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: MANI Cherian who's a former NFL scout on last week 358 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: and we were chatting about this, and he says, I'm 359 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: always careful about just assuming you can reduce the tackle 360 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: into guard. It's just, you know, things having quicker in there, 361 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: it's a it's really a different position. So as a scout, 362 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: what do you look for when you look at these tackles, 363 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: you know, Cannard, sally Er, the Ryan kid from U C. 364 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: L A. These are all guys they played tackle, right, 365 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: what do you look for to make you believe that 366 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: they will be successful moving into guard? Yeah? I think 367 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned it. You're one of those kids I really 368 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: really like because but the thing about it is like 369 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned Sawyer Ryan. These guys played left tackle in college, 370 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, so you're thinking, like, okay, footwork is gonna 371 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: be key their vision to how they see, how they set, 372 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: how they block, how they get away from the line. 373 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: You know, those are the kind of thing you know, 374 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: your your scalut buddy is absolutely right. You know, things 375 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: happen a lot quicker, but it's in a small, confined space. 376 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: You know. You see some of these guys get exposed 377 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: out on the edge and then all of a sudden 378 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: you know, I don't mean to bring up something you know, 379 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: troubling to giant fans in the day, but Flowers, you know, 380 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: you look at you know, you look at once he 381 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: moved from tackle to guard. You really did see a 382 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: different player. Eric Flowers is a much better player inside 383 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: than he was on the outside. You know. And sometimes 384 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: you're like going because they get exposed out there. The 385 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: movement supposes them a little bit, and I think, what 386 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: these guys. The first thing you got to think about 387 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: is is there enough bulk? Is there enough bulk to move? 388 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you talk about moving guys and maybe 389 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: guy's too big. You know, Sean Ryan is a three 390 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: pound guy. Saw her from Georgia. Same thing, three one 391 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: pound guy. But see that's that's that's where you know, 392 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: you look at you know, you look at the saw. 393 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: Youre you go back and say you watch just go 394 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: back and watch the Michigan game in the in the 395 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You know, with you know, with the 396 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: two rush INDs that Michigan has, he's not giving up anything. 397 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, you're sitting there going on, well, hell, maybe 398 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: this guy could play tackle, but projecting him inside it's 399 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: the power, you know, the thing you know. I've always 400 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: been I was taught that the tackles were responsible for 401 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: the width of the pocket. The guards and centers are 402 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: responsible for the depth of the pocket. When you get guys, 403 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: big guys like the Ryan and Saw, you those guys 404 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: and they don't get knocked back and you don't see 405 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: them get walked back, then you know, then you know, 406 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: I think that there's another guy too, And and this 407 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: is a guy at Georgia. Another guard it plays next time. 408 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: This is Justin Schaeffer. I don't know if you've seen 409 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: him play at all of it. Yeah, but you know, 410 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean I like him personally as a true as 411 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: a true guard. There I think he's a mean, kind 412 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: of a nasty guy. But the projection of those guys 413 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: moving inside again, it's about bulk, it's about power and 414 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: because that's where you're gonna live, that's where you're gonna 415 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to be able to be good 416 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: enough foot athlete when you do the scoops, the reaches, 417 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: the combo blocks and stuff like that. Yeah, I don't 418 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: want to spend the whole whole time you're on the 419 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: on line, but I do want to ask you about 420 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: that next group of tackles we talked about the top three. 421 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: I think Penning is a pretty comfortable top twenty player too. 422 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: If you're the let's say somehow and you're the Giant, 423 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: you strike out at five and seven on offensive tackle, 424 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. But let's just I 425 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: like to put the worst case scenario for fans so 426 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: they're kind of prepared for it. Let's say you're with 427 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: you don't get any of those three guys for whatever reason, 428 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: you get the thirty six. Do you feel good enough 429 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: about any of these Tier two tackles that you feel 430 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: good about them at thirty six? Because I go through 431 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: all these guys, Ryan Ryman, I worry about the Washington 432 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: State kids power. You know, he's just so big. I 433 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: don't know, do you, Tyler Smith? I think Ciguard you know, 434 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: you watch him by Cincinnati a tackle He's a mess. 435 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: So I don't feel great about any of these second 436 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: tier tackles. Or I can bring him in, put him in, 437 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: and and feel good about him. Yeah. I think the 438 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: thing about when you start to talk about Ryman, you know, 439 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: and and and what he's been able to do and 440 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: what he's been able to accomplish and stuff like that. 441 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean converted tight end, you know. But I'm gonna 442 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: be real honest with you and real honest with your listeners. 443 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm the worst guy in the world to ask about 444 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: the the tackle that lacks power. Okay, And you mentioned 445 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Lucas from Washington State, because I've yet to be right 446 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: on a Colton Miller from U c. L A that 447 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders took another guy t free. Yeah, I give 448 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: me when I see power and guys sitting down, and 449 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, that's that's what I want. But I 450 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: have yet to be right about one of these tackles. 451 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: And and I mentioned I mentioned Colton Miller. I could 452 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: go back to David Baktiari. I could even talk about 453 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: Nate Solder, you know, I could, I could even You know, 454 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: these are guys you'm like, no power, no power, no power, 455 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: no power, and all of a sudden they play in 456 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: the league for twenty years, you know, and you're like going, well, damn, 457 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: I was wrong about him again. I think that's where 458 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: you're worried right now. I think that's where and I'm 459 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: worried about it too. But what's gonna happen. I'm I'm 460 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more I'm a little bit more understanding 461 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: now about and Abraham Lucas. I'm a little bit more like, okay, 462 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: really good feet. You know. I watched him play against 463 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, against Jackson from against USC who everybody's talking 464 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: about as an edge rusher and all that, and I'm 465 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: watching him hold his own and I'm going, you know, 466 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: maybe this guy can't play. But you're You're absolutely right. 467 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: There's there's there's doubts in all these players. But I 468 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: know my phobia is there's not strong. I shouldn't like him, 469 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: but they're probably gonna play a long time, unless you're 470 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: Andre Dillard, in which case that that that's that. That 471 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: is now, I'll tell you what with Dillard. I really 472 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: really thought Dillard was gonna be I mean, really good 473 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: foot athlete. I was. I am shocked that he I 474 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think there's more of 475 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: a lack of tough us there then there is a 476 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: lack of anything else. No, yeah, I've I've I've heard 477 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: that same thing talking to some guys down there in Philly. 478 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: How about the interior alignment Brian two three four centers guards? 479 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: Who are some of the guys that that you like 480 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: as the giants Chodo, you know, build up this offensive 481 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: line a little bit that you think could be center 482 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: guard options in rounds two three four? Let's see what man. 483 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: I am a huge, huge fan, and we talked about 484 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: the guy's like linder bomb and stuff like that. I 485 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: kind of feel like there's a drop off at center. 486 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: But if you if you haven't watched this, Luke Fortner 487 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: from Kentucky actually washed them versus Georgia this morning. He did. 488 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: There you go. Now, Okay, it's not perfect, it's not pretty, 489 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: but you can watch those Georgia guys dominate centers and 490 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: guards inside he was anchoring Jordan Davis. I was pretty exactly, 491 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. This guy is six four, three oh seven 492 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: on the way high all that. But you talk about 493 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: a guy that was he His attitude in the Georgia 494 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: game was You're gonna have to run over me to 495 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: get to the ball. And but you watch him play 496 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: against Georgia and he's holding his own. You watch him 497 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: against Missouri and he's a dominant player. So I I 498 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: was super super impressed with, you know, with that kind 499 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: of uh that kind of play. You know, you mentioned 500 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: all these these guards and stuff like that. I'll say 501 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: this though, to one more thing about the center. I 502 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: know people have talked about like you know, Cam Jurgen's 503 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: and Parum and guys like that. I am not as 504 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: I am not as high on a Parum. I'll be 505 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: interested to see. I'm glad his weight went up because 506 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: you watched him play at Memphis during the season, he 507 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: looked like a smaller guy. Is he a pumped up guy? 508 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: That's just you know, gonna have trouble carrying that weight 509 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: and playing that well. I mean I wanted him again. Yeah, 510 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: I watched him against Yeah, I watch Hi against Logan 511 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: Hall from the defensive tackle from Uh, Houston, who's a 512 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: really long, tall guy, and so he held his own 513 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: play with leverage and all that stuff. So I think 514 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: there's a couple of those centers you would be really 515 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: really happy about. Uh there's a kid, you know, there's 516 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: a kid named Smith from Virginia Tech that I kind 517 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: of have a little bit in that range of that 518 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: third round. I mean, he's a just a super powerful guy. 519 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: And I felt like, though, if you wanted a guy 520 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: that was really good in the run game, but maybe 521 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: you could develop as a as a pass protector. Uh, 522 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, that might be an opportunity. I'm not sold 523 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: on the guys like the Cold Strangers and people like 524 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: that from Tennessee Chattanooga. I'm gonna let somebody else be 525 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: a hero draft in that that particular player. Don't miss 526 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: your chance to experience a premier hospitality experience watching Giants 527 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: games and world class concerts in two as a Giant 528 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: Sweet partner. 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I wouldn't like 539 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: fall off my chair be shocked by it. So how 540 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: much of a drop? You know? So the giants are 541 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, how what should they prioritize that 542 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: position or can they wait? Say what? I don't know. 543 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: If you have the elite players you know, up at 544 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: the top of the wide receiver board like we've seen 545 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: in the past, I will say this, I think the 546 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: depth of it does stretch. I am a big fan 547 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: of Pickings from Georgia. I think that is a playmaker 548 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: extraordinaire right there. I the trades, the strong hands, you know, 549 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: run after catch. I really do. I like him. Dotson 550 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: from Penn State, you know you see him make a 551 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: lot of plays. You mentioned sky More. Sky More was 552 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: the one I thought this guy okay when I watched 553 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: him initially, I was like, huh, maybe slot only type guy. 554 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: But no, he's a better player than slot only. The 555 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: more tape that you watch, you see plays on the outside, 556 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: you see players on the inside. He's a really really 557 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: good route runner. He finishes when with the ball in 558 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: his hands. I'll tell you another one too, is this 559 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: kid Peers from Cincinnati. And I'll tell you the reason 560 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: you know I really like him is just because when 561 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: you start to talk about length, and you know, you 562 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: talk about ability to make these guys have to go 563 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: and play. Alec Pierces is his name, from Cincinnati. He's 564 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: six three, he's two eleven, body control, balance, tracking, all 565 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: these things. Big tall guy running rounds, sideline, red zone, 566 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: going up getting footballs. You know, it doesn't matter where 567 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: the ball is thrown. And again, when you're evaluating that 568 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: quarterback rid or you're you're like, you know, throw after 569 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: throw after throw, who's it going to. It's going to 570 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce kid from Cincinnati, and he's making a ton 571 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: of play. So if the Giants or the Cowboys or 572 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: anybody that needs receivers, I think that this thing stretches 573 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: pretty good for them in that second, third, fourth round 574 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: if they really want to go that route. Now, I'm 575 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: with How about the tight end class, Brian, I don't 576 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: think I would draft if I'm a GM, much like 577 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: if I'm a GM, I'm not drafting a quarterback in 578 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: this class in the first round. I know you have 579 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: crowded there. I don't. I'm just I'm just not worth 580 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: taking the risk from me for tight ends. I'm not 581 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: pulling the trigger on any of these guys in the 582 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: first two rounds. I would start considering around three. Who 583 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: are some of the guys that you really like? I 584 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: I like the Cohler kid from Ohiowa State. I think 585 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: you do a little bit everything. I think he's a 586 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: real versatile guy. Rucket from Ohio State. I think he 587 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: might get pushed down because of the injury, could get 588 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: good value. There's a two week Who are some of 589 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: the guys you like? A tight end that could be 590 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: elite kid at all? Greg Doltschitz. I think he's how 591 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: you say his name, Yeah, he he's a real long kid. 592 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: He can get down to seem a little bit. He's interesting. Yeah. 593 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean he's one of my guys I really really liked. 594 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: You know, at six four two pounds, I think that 595 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: you could play him in a couple of different spots. 596 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: And I know when I say that again, the Giant 597 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: fans are thinking, oh jeez, Evan Ingram play a couple 598 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: of different spots. Don't block, don't do this, don't do that. 599 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, I get it. But this guy could play 600 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: in line, you could play as a wing, you can 601 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: flex him. The movement skills are really really good as 602 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: an athlete. I'm a I'm a really big fan of his. 603 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: I watched him against my school against L s U. 604 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the first touchdown of the game, they throw 605 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: it to him on a crossing route and he just 606 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: takes it to the house. I mean, there's that explosive 607 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: finish to him. I kind of feel like I totally 608 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: agree with you about the about Cola. I really really also. 609 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the thing I like about Cohler is more 610 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: I think about it. Here's a guy that's six seven, 611 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: two fifty six, right, Okay, when you watch him play, 612 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: he extends for balls. Defenders are hitting him in the 613 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: risks in the forearm. They can't get to the ball 614 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: because of his way of extending for the ball. So 615 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: you have a couple of different guys like that. I mean, 616 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned McBride He's a six four guy. Kate at 617 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: and I really really like out of Washington. I think 618 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: is he got a little banged up in some games 619 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: this year. But man, you talk about a super productive player. 620 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Keep an eye on another six seven guy. There's a 621 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: kid named Cole Turner from Nevada who makes a ton 622 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: of plays. Again, you're watching their quarterback strong, You're watching 623 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: him throw the ball. Who's he throwing the ball to 624 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: this number nine team? Cold? Turner is making a ton 625 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: of play. So I mean when when you know, here's 626 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: the guy with the ball, so he's not fighting it. 627 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes get these tight ends fight the ball and stuff. 628 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys catch it pretty smooth. The 629 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: kid woulds that Virginia is another one he's gonna probably go. 630 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Woods from Virginia's the first 631 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: tight end that goes off the board. Myself. Yeah, with 632 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: his testing, that wouldn't you know? If teams are looking 633 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: for an upside pick and that's what teams usually trying 634 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: to go for. I think Woods, I agree. I think 635 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: that might be a guy that could that could go 636 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: early second group of corners, Brian, after you get past 637 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: uh Stingley and sauce. Is this much like we talked about, 638 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: you know with with the flavor of ice cream? Right? 639 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: Are you looking for a big Are you're looking for 640 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: a slot guy? If you giants don't get sauce at 641 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: five or seven and looking for a corner at at 642 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: thirty six? Who are some of the guys you'll be 643 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on? Yeah, I think I actually think 644 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: this is a really really really good I mean, there's 645 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: there's there's some depending on what you want to do 646 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: and that in that day. I know Andrew Booth is 647 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people are talking about. 648 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: Howt a Clemson Brian. I can tell you Wink Wink 649 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: wants long, fast press corners. So okay, well then if 650 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: that if that's the case, then I mean, like I said, 651 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna end up picking that Cincinnati kid 652 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: in the first round. But yeah, you know, I mean, 653 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: but there there are some guys, like I said that 654 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: to me, when you when you go through the list, 655 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: they're all kind of in that six ft five eleven 656 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: and I mean there's some guys down the board. I'll 657 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: give you a name of a guy that I think 658 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: is really an interesting player is and and I don't 659 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: know if you've taken a look at it. And you 660 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: talk about long range and could run. This is Zion McCullum, 661 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: kid from sam Houston. Now, again, the Giants, like in 662 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: the history, and I might be wrong about this, the 663 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: Giants were always about big school guys Sam Houston. Probably 664 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: not you know something that the giants will look at. 665 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: But again you're talking about a guy that could really 666 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: really run. He's six too, he's a hundred and nine pounds, 667 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: he could read routes. He always puts himself in his 668 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: issue to make plays. I mean, this is one of 669 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: those kids that clearly fell through the cracks down here 670 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: in Texas. This kid should be playing at TCU Texas 671 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: Tech Oklahoma State. He should have been a big twelve player. 672 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Clearly fell through the cracks here. But a big, long 673 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: type of a guy. You know, I think that's you 674 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: know some name. I'd keep keep an eye on it. Again, 675 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: this is gonna sound crazy because it's again it's a 676 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: it's a probably not a giant trade. It's a kid, 677 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: Joshua Williams from Fayetteville State. I don't know if you've 678 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: seen him at all. He's a tall long, six four 679 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: tall long. You put him on either side. But again 680 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: you're watching him against Lincoln University and Buie Stayed and 681 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: people like that. But you know he's had obstituity to 682 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: go with the Senior Bowl and things like that. So 683 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: maybe you got a little bit a better idea there. 684 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: Uh Woolen the kid from from San Antonio, another six 685 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: five pound guy. You know, all these guys are in 686 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: that range. I'm speaking of that second, third, fourth round range. 687 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: If you don't grab them in you know, you can 688 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: talk about prospects when you answer this question, Brian. But 689 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I feel like linebacker is a position that the NFL 690 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: has struggled with a little bit, especially off ball linebacker. 691 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: You know Patrick Queen, I don't think that's been a hit. 692 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: You don't go to go to Murray with the Chargers. 693 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: He was benched last year, right, Um. You know Michael 694 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Parsons worked out with Dallas because he's such a good 695 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: pass rusher, right exactly. So I think, what do you 696 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: think the formula is now for finding that good off 697 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: ball linebacker where you need to prioritize coverage. But you 698 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: don't see them play man in college and you're trying 699 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: to figure out how they're going to translate. What's your 700 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: process for going through those off ball linebacks and trying 701 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: to find guys that are good fits in the NFL. Yeah, 702 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: you know, I think that that that's a that's a 703 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: great question because now they're in all shapes and sizes. 704 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, you get freaks amp and you get a 705 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: Christian Harris from Alabama who I really really like. He's 706 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: six wenties, two twenties six, you know. You know, I 707 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: watched the kid the other day, DeMarco Jackson from Appalachian 708 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: State sixty three, you know, and then you watch a 709 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: guy like a Devin Lloyd, who in my book is 710 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, with the Kobe gane is one of the 711 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: top linebackers in the country. And I think that we're 712 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: all kind of looking for a guy. We're looking for 713 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: those guys that can I don't know if the coverage 714 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: aspect is the most important thing, to be honest with 715 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: you anymore, John, because I think teams are looking for 716 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: guys that can play the run, get off blocks, make 717 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: tackles in space, but can you blitz? Can they use 718 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: you as that extra rusher? And that's when a guy 719 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: like Devin Lloyd from Utah gets a lot of looks, 720 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, because you know he's always around the ball. 721 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: They you know, they put him in, they put him 722 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: in positions to make plays. He seems to be a 723 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: complete line back. But again, here's a guy that had 724 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: seven sacks. So all of a sudden, it's like, oh, wait, 725 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: I can cover and I could bring you for pressure. 726 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: You know, they'll they'll figure out a way to keep 727 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: a linebacker out of coverage if they have to. They'll, 728 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, everybody playing with safeties as linebackers. I mean, 729 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: the Cowboys do that with dan Quinn's defense. So you know, 730 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: if you have to say, well he's a good cover linebacker, Okay, 731 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: well how does he blitz? I mean that's kind of 732 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: where you've seen these linebackers go. Now with like I say, 733 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, with the Micah Parsons, Michael Parsons would have 734 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: been I don't know if Michael Parsons would have been 735 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: consideration for Defensive Player of the Year if he didn't 736 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: have the sacks. Michael Parson is a really good player. 737 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons a physical tackler, But Michael Parsons the pass rusher. 738 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: Seven of his thirteen sacks came from a linebacker spot. 739 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of where it wasn't just playing 740 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: defensive end, was playing linebacker too, And I think I 741 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: think more people look it at these linebackers his potential 742 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: weapons as rushers, then they are looking at mis cover guys. 743 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: You know, Brian, I think too, this is like you mentioned, 744 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: all shapes and sizes. I love this Day two group 745 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: of linebackers like MoMA Ota Wyoming. I love Troy Anderson 746 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: out of Mountain of State. I think he's gonna be 747 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: a wonderful player still learning. Quai Walker, I think is 748 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: one of these guys that maybe his full repertoire of 749 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: skills was hidden a little bit in that Georgia defense. 750 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: I think he can do a lot. His teammate Channing 751 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: Tindall is pretty good or your favorite like Day two 752 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: linebackers that you think, can you know, really bring it 753 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: in the way you just described in the NFL. Yeah, 754 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, and as I look at you know, it's 755 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that the ls Q L s Q kid 756 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: Clark got hurt with the spine in Dreams Out. I mean, 757 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: he's a tremendous player. But um Assamura, I think it's 758 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: a guy you have to look at. I I really 759 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: Brandon Smith to me from Penn State. I think it's 760 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: a guy. I mean you mentioned all the other guys. Ah, 761 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: I forgot Christian Harris from Alabama's fantastic him. Yeah, I 762 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: mentioned him early because he's a six one two six 763 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: pound guy. And yeah, I mean he's right there in 764 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: the mix with those guys that you mentioned. Chanal the 765 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: kid from Wisconsin. He's a little bit of a throwback guy. 766 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: There's a guy that can rush the passer, is physical 767 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: at the point of attack. But I mentioned this Brandon 768 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: Smith from Penn State because he's like a six four, 769 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: two hundred fifty pound guy and he throws his body around. 770 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: But like sometimes he makes tackles. Sometimes he doesn't make tackles. 771 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: But but that's where we're at with these guys. I mean, 772 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: there's all these little these traits, these little things that 773 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 1: you say, Ah, this is keeping him from being a 774 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: high two or something like that. But man, the pocket 775 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: of the round from two to three, and you you 776 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: mentioned every one of those guys that you know. I mean, uh, 777 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: Bernard is another kid. It's a little bit from from Baylor. 778 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: Keep nie on him. As well, maybe a fourth round guy, 779 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: guy that could cover, guy that's always around the ball, 780 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: guy that can blitz. You know, I think that's kind 781 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: of where we're looking at. Guys that can cover ground run. 782 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned that Troy Anderson too, MA, don't watch the 783 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: North Dakota State game. If you know the championship game 784 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: on Anderson now will kind of take you back a 785 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: little bit, like, Oh, maybe it's not as good as 786 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: player as I thought he did. But still all those 787 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: guys are all pretty good. Giant season tickets are on 788 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: sale now for the season. In addition to ticket savings, 789 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: membership benefits include access to exclusive events, experiences, pre sales, 790 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: and more. You can lock in your seat starting at 791 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: just one hundred bucks. Called n yg his a giants 792 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: dot com slash tickets for more information. Kyle Hamilton's Let's 793 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: go rapid Fire. Here to close, Brian, do you understand 794 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: his fault? I watched him her second time today, and 795 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: I feel like he can do everything except cover a 796 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver. You know, I don't think that's going to 797 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: be a strength. I think he'll get run passed and 798 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: he can't stay with them with this change of direct 799 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: and he's long he's six four, you know. You know, 800 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't expect him to do that. But if you 801 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: have a stachety that can do everything else at a 802 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: pretty high level, you know, maybe not for me, at 803 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: least a player like that is is a top five, 804 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: top seven pick just because of the position. But you know, 805 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: these people that have kind of like down on him 806 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: because the forty yard dash time, I just don't see it. 807 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: I talked to some people in South Bend about what 808 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: happened with Hambleton's and evidently after the Combine he went 809 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: home to Atlanta and did nothing for three weeks and 810 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: then came back and they had that pro day, you know, 811 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: And I think he was a four or five nine 812 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: guy at the Combine and then he ran in the 813 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: four sevens acts at South Bend. So again, prepared, are 814 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: you ready? All that you focus, everything and all that 815 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: kids took from from good Notre Dame sources. For me, 816 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: took time off and it killed him. He should have 817 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: probably not run. He probably should have just did position 818 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: drills and stuff like that. But there's a lot of 819 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: people that, you know, I look at him as like 820 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: one of those old school safeties from back in the 821 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: crusty day. You know, the big tall, you know guy. 822 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,959 Speaker 1: But I mean, he's so long limbed, and I think 823 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: playing down, are you going to say, oh, we're just 824 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: gonna take a down safety that high? You know? I mean, 825 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: I yeah, he's got the length to knockdown passes, play underneath. 826 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: You can blitz him, but are you gonna take it 827 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: down safety that high? I I could see a lot 828 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: of people saying, wait a minute. I could see Dax 829 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: Hill from Michigan covering more people and probably be in 830 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: better city. But Dax Hill is six ft a pounds. 831 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: There's a little there's a difference one kid six four 832 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,959 Speaker 1: two twenty and the other six ft. There's difference there. 833 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think you could just sit 834 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: there and totally discount Kyle Hamilton's I mean, because I 835 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's his favorite thing in the world to 836 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: line up in the lot, but you do see him 837 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: do that occasionally, and uh, I love his toughness. I 838 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: think he's got some sure tackle ability. Is that we're 839 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: taken in the top ten. We'll find out here in 840 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: about twenty days. Yeah, you know, I'm with you, and 841 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: I think if you know, I don't think he's as 842 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna a prospect as Derwin James, for example, right, and 843 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: he went want like fifteen or sixteen. Yeah, he went 844 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: right ahead of Dallas because I know when we were 845 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: doing the draft, we were all for the Cowboys, were 846 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: praying that he would get there. And I think he 847 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: went to the Chargers one pick ahead of Dallas at 848 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: that time. It was during the Layton vander Esh draft, 849 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: is what that was, I believe. Yeah, and he ended 850 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: up being obviously a fantastic player. All right, Brian, anything 851 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: else about this draft really jump out to you? Anybody 852 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 1: that we didn't talk about that you want to mention? 853 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: You know? That's Uh, it's something. I think it's going 854 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: to be really interesting with all these teams in the 855 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: first round having multiple picks. You know, I don't think that. 856 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 1: I don't think the Saints are finished moving. I think 857 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna try and package I believe sixteen 858 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 1: and eighteen and go up again. I think that. Yeah, 859 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: I think so. I think they're gonna I think they're 860 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 1: either looking for one of these offensive tackles, I think, 861 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, or you know, maybe they maybe they love 862 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks, maybe they really do. Maybe they 863 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: want to get ahead of of a Carolina at six 864 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: or something like that. But I think that with all 865 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: these teams you just mentioned that the Giants wanting to 866 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: move down one of those picks. I'll be interested to 867 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: see the teams with multiple picks stand in there and 868 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: make one pick, turn around and move the next And 869 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: is somebody gonna be aggressive enough to go and and 870 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: bite on that and uh or or teams because of 871 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: what the salary caps are and you know that, hey, 872 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: we're just gonna make these picks. We can't afford not 873 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: to make these picks. I kind of feel like, you 874 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: know what you were talking about with the Giants. I 875 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: think that where we're seeing the same thing with the Eagles. 876 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't think the Eagles see a sure for our 877 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft. I think they set themselves up 878 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: for next year when when Hurts doesn't have success and 879 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, they're able to take those 880 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: multiple ones and move up. So some teams are already 881 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 1: planning for next year as far as the draft goes. 882 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: But it should be a lot of fun, though. But 883 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: where these players go, I think there's some teams that 884 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: are probably gonna have to there's maybe some guys that 885 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: are taken maybe around early, especially in the back end 886 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: of the draft, because people are gonna feel we can't 887 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: get back around two. Then I'll give you an example 888 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, Sam Williams, the defensive end from old 889 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: Miss dan Quinn went and worked him out. You know, 890 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: you think maybe a third round guy Dallas might have 891 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: to make that at fifth, that pick at fifty six 892 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: because he's not going to get back around to them. 893 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 1: So you know, if those are the kinds of things, 894 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: kind of keep an eye on that. Interesting, all right, 895 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: So just real quick, give me your best case scenario 896 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: based on your board, and you know the Giants needs. 897 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: I'll give it to you again. Offensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback. Yeah, 898 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: and you know what safety too. They they end up 899 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: ling goal along in line, what do you think they're 900 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: ideal spots would be are assuming they can't make a 901 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: trade down, won't be the Giants for you? Ideal situation 902 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: for the players they're grabb at five and seven? Yeah, 903 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 1: I think I think it comes down to the tackle 904 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: or the cornerback. I really really do. I mean, and 905 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: I again I don't. I don't have anything against nothing 906 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: against Stingley I mean, I know, the National championship season 907 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: when he was a freshman. He was a tremendous player 908 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: and you know, and but he got hurt. There's some 909 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: questions about the deal of football. That's not a to me. 910 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: That's been answered. Uh. He worked out really really well. 911 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: He's showing he's healthy. But if you could come out 912 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: of this thing with one of those tackles and you 913 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: guys grab Gardner, I would say, right off the jump, uh, 914 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: the new the new era for the Giants as far 915 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: as coach and general managers, off to a really really 916 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,720 Speaker 1: good start, and you would stack the tackles for the Giants, 917 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: and right tackle you would go Neil cross at Quantu. 918 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: I would go. I would likely go Neil a Quantu 919 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: crossed for right tackle if you were if you're just 920 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: going to left, I would go cross the Kuanu and 921 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: Neili is what I would do. Brian, great stuff. Tell 922 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: the folks where they can find all your stuff. I 923 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: don't even mentioned the draft show off the top, which 924 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: is your draft show that you do on that? Yeah, 925 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: we uh, thank you, I appreciate that. We Yeah we 926 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 1: have again you mentioned one oh five three the fan 927 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: We were getting into the draft, a lot more of 928 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: talking about that. Uh, there's several podcasts I'm on now. 929 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: Trust the Tape is a podcast that you can find 930 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: on one oh five three the Fan. Another one is 931 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: a plug and play with Jeff Kavanaugh that we do that. 932 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: We do a lot of things with Dame Bruglers on 933 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: that podcast with us and then what else and then 934 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: I've got the Draft show with the Dallas Cowboys on 935 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 1: one oh five ex to me on Dallas Cowboys dot com. 936 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: So this time of year, if you google me, you'll 937 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: probably find me on something I'm doing. From all Trusty 938 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: to the King of all Media, Brian brought us this 939 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: terrible man and then like I said, hey, every year 940 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: you and I just used to talk and now we're 941 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: now we're talking about the draft all the time for everybody. 942 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: So it's it is nice and I'm always every year 943 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: look forward to being with you. I really do. It's 944 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: always fun. Brian brought us, We thank you if we're 945 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: joining us in the Giant shuttle. Everybody's stay tuned for 946 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: more coverage of the draft on all the Giants social 947 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: media platforms and our digital platforms as well. For Brian 948 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: brought us on John schmulk, We'll see you next time 949 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: on the Giants Huddle.