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Hiring Indeed is 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.040 all you need. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.720 All right, All right, guys, welcome back to our religion podcast. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.399 This is a very special edition La edition. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:35.080 Yeah Cali Loved Shots, California, whole state of count shouts, open, shout, Yeah, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.200 shouts over shout the Sacramento sho out to San Diego, 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.000 all over So you know, as we said before previously, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.640 you know, the message of financial literacy is something that. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.959 We need to spread all over the world, all over 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:46.520 the country. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.520 So this is a dope trip for us when we're 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.000 on the West Side and we're connected with a lot 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.440 of great people. And you know, the premise of our 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.240 show if you are a loyal listener or if you're 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.280 just a new listener, the premise of our show is 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:03.560 that we tell the financial backstories but behind sports entertainment 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.440 business also. But it's comedy based around sports entertainment, right, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.160 because a lot of times people don't fully thank or 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.320 they don't fully understand what goes into it. They just 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.560 watch the NFL, they watch a movie and watch Netflix. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.360 But every business is a business, right. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.160 We find that everything is a business, right, Education that's 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.160 a business. But every everything always comes back to the money. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.760 It always comes back to my much. It always comes 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.119 back to your money. So with that being said, we 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.120 was lucky enough to connect with the brother Romyo Brown, 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.720 who is a actor and producer of entrepreneurs. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.600 Yeah, he does a lot. He does a lot some 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.799 of the you know shows that he's been in. The 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:40.560 n CIS. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.920 We have swat obviously the rookie just finished being married, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.760 Jean congratulations showing love. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.040 Yeah, yeah, Atlanta, thank you for that. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.640 It was good to so, you know, when I connected 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.320 with him on the phone, we spoke and I'm like, well, no, 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.680 we definitely really gotta get you on the show if possible, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.560 because he just had a lot to say and you 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.840 know a lot of just good information that I think 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.560 would be very valuable to everybody to soak in. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.160 So, first and foremost, thank you for coming on the show. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.280 Appreciate it. So we're numb right into it. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.720 So you know, you're an actor, right amongst other things. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.040 But we'll talk about the first segment as far as 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.360 your acting careers concern So a lot of people have 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.720 aspirations of being an actor, right, It's kind of like 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.720 being an athlete where it's glamorous. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.120 Right. We see people, you know, we. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.440 Watched the Oscar, We watched these awards shows. Watch everybody 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.360 wants to be an actor. So all right, can you 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.800 talk about your journey as far as getting to Hollywood 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.920 if you're not from la originally. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.280 Like you know the steps that you took and you. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.240 Know how you you actually became a working actor because 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.400 it really set blueprint everybody's. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.640 Journey, and that's that's one of the most deterring things 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.040 is that somebody, you know, you could be doing it 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.280 for ten fifteen years and still be struggling. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.200 Somebody could come here for a year and pop, right, man, 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.520 you're just you know whatever. So that's crazy. But re 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:03.280 winded to the back. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.880 Obviously from from Oakland, California. I'm like most black males. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.040 I wanted to play football, but I got into the 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:15.520 drama program a boy my senior year, junior senior year, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:17.599 and they said you got to pick these electives and 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.479 then I was like, well, Spanish seems really hard, and 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.960 all the girls seemed went there, and so I was like, 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.320 I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna go with that. But 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.640 I just fell in love with it. For whatever reason 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.920 it was. I've never been one to like the monotony 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.919 of knowing what's gonna happen day to day and always 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.360 confused me and life is growing up. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:38.640 It was just like, how come I'm not to do 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.280 the same thing every day? Like I know what's gonna happen, Yeah, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:42.960 I don't know what's for lunch. I actually gotta do it. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.560 Im Ima looked at it, you got to you know 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:45.080 what I'm saying. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.320 So when when I got to step on that stage 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.320 and you know, I was a bad guy or I 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.440 was the good guy, I. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.240 Was just it was like every time I had to 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.880 put on these different. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.200 Characters and if I've done it well, I was praised 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.599 for I was crazy and then I was like, Okay, 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.480 maybe I like this. Then I would really changed everything. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.719 As I did the AIDS Awareness. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:09.320 Play at the Henry J. 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.240 Kyser Center in Oakland, and I was just having a 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.960 great time with the character. And literally people after that 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:19.040 came up in tears telling me how much they appreciated 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.240 me telling that story, and they hit my heart. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.719 I was like, wow, like I can change lives and 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.160 have fun. So I'm gonna do that, you know. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.880 So I told my parents if all my parents and 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.400 my family has always been super super supportive, and you know, 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.360 I strapped up my boots and came out. Came out 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.680 this way, came out of cal State Northridge. Originally I 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:42.880 was with a theater major, theater major, but then I 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.880 started meeting cats quick. Like you know, me from being 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.279 in Oakland seeing the TV was like a fantasy world. 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.640 It might as well be Disneyland, you know. And then 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.560 seeing all these cars and stuff, I was like, are 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.680 they giving. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:00.760 How If I want to give a free something's got 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.520 to be going on and tell me how to do it. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:04.839 So it was just like it was like a big 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.359 culture shock coming coming from the Bay Area because we 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:08.840 just don't see the stuff you see. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:09.920 You don't see the celebrities. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.360 So to see a cat that's on like a Skillers commercial, 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.720 it was like, yo. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:19.320 Do I'm in class like you know. And then as 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:20.799 you you know, I got a big energy. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.760 You know, if I ever got to say anything about me, 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.040 that's like my my top top thing that I love 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.080 about me is my energy, Like I can I can 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.719 just absorb a room and just like if you beep 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.880 on him, I can just crush that, like come on, man, 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.359 what is this? Why are we doing it? And I 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.600 think people gravity take it towards me. And then I 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.400 started meeting the people and they just started like pouring 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.279 information out. So they's like, yo, you don't need to 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.400 be a theater major to do this, Like go ahead, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.120 cut that out and then just take this class. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:50.720 Just take this class. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.160 So then I switched over the radio, radio, television, film 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.040 and I took that for a while it was cool. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.000 And then where I found where my love and my 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.000 heart was was at marketing. So I still took marketing, 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.400 still doing the whole acting thing. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.560 Whatever. The building blocks that marketing gave me was. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.120 Insane, you know, it was insane, like, for instance, I'll 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.840 get right back to what you asked. But there was 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.760 this term in marketing called swat and it's not as 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:21.000 w a T, it's swot. And I feel like that 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.440 kind of structured my life in a big way because 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.200 the definition is in marketing, if you know your swat, 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.239 which is your strengths, your. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.520 Weaknesses, your opportunities and threats. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:36.280 Cool if you put that, if you really and be 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:41.240 honest with yourself, whether it's finances, whether it's your career, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:41.920 whatever it is. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.160 If you put that swat in. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.720 Front of Eve and say, hey, what are my stunts, 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:46.840 what are my weaknesses, What are the. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.360 Opportunities, and what are the threats. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.760 If you really drill those down, there's nothing that you 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.040 can't achieve because now you know what your strengths are, 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.320 so you push those up. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.200 Now you know what your weaknesses are. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.600 You need to fix those, those opportunities need to go 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.160 after them and the threats. You got to figure out 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.720 why they threats. Because once you know what something want 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.360 something is a threat, you got the answers. That's just 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:09.960 like some people say, I'm not afraid of the dark, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.080 I'm afraid of what's in the dark. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.680 You see what I'm saying. So that's that. And then 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:15.920 also the MVP. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.720 And we're not talking about the most valuable player, it's 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:23.440 the most it's the minimum viable product. So maybe people 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.960 got these big dreams of you know, saying, oh, I 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.280 want to have this huge company or I want to 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.240 do this major feature film, and. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:31.760 They never even get off ground. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.320 One what that marketing class taught me was is to 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.839 dumb it down to the minimum viable product. What can 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:40.360 you do with your budget right now? I don't care 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.880 if it's one hundred dollars? What can how close can 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.559 you get to getting that done? Just you can get 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.240 an eye on. Okay, this worked, but how can I 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.080 make that grow? And from that you just start building. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.199 I don't care if you got this crazy idea about 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.400 a magical coffee cup, Okay, well that magical coffee cup 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:00.960 is going to cost you a million dollars, will really 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.960 get made. So what you do is you take that 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.080 regular cup, go put sticker on it and tell people 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.280 what it will be about. Now make sixty of those. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.080 Go sit somewhere and get the people's ideas. What do 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:12.400 you think about this? What do you think about this? 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.800 Now you got numbers, and it's power numbers, especially with 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:15.439 the internet. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.000 Now you've got a following to say the people want this, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.920 and then you just start rolling. But if you're just 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.520 so busy trying to get that magical coffee cup, you 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.920 go get a million dollars just by talking about the 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:26.839 national coffee cup. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:28.760 That's a fact. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.640 I'm glad you said that because it all intertwines, right, 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.640 It all into twines when we talk about entertaining entrepreneurship business. 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.880 And that's kind of duty to podcast, is that everything 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.640 if you really are aware of you can really maximize 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.240 your potential if you understand the business behind it. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.040 Right. So, like what you just broke down with the 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:50.599 slot out of dop, I know actually. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.679 Everything you said that before about it, it makes a 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.280 lot of sense, right Like so all right, so now 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.560 as far as being an actor, right, because we know 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.360 that a lot of people aspire to be an actor, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.280 but they don't understand the financial side. I kind of 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.320 compare it to being an athlete. People always say, like, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.600 how do athletes go broke? Right, But they don't know 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.840 that they might only get paid two times a month. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:11.680 They don't know that about it. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.680 They play in a different state, and they pay state 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.559 taxes in each state that they're playing that there's fees. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.720 That come out. It's a lot of things that go 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:19.120 into it. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.520 It's not it's, oh, I got fifty million dollars, right, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.599 Like you might not even see a quart up that 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.880 because it's not guarantees and this is so much stuff. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.079 Right. So acting is kind of similar with people. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.839 You know, they look at actors like, oh, everybody's blowing 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.200 out of control. But there's a lot of financial things 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.560 that go into being an actor that people don't don't understand, right, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:38.439 you just talk about. 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.200 It too well, Like first and foremost. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.280 One of the things that I take again, it was 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:46.000 a big shot, Like nobody out there had jobs like 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.480 here I am. I come from open so I started 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.720 out working at home depot, you know what I mean. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.760 And all my friends that were actors, they just never 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.440 went to work. I'm like, well, why am I the 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.360 only one going the way, but I hated it. They'd 0:10:58.360 --> 0:10:59.960 be at pool parties, they'd be chilled. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:00.679 Ah. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.400 Man, it was. It was a rough time from it. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.800 It was a rough one because I just didn't understand it. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.199 And you know, and there's so many different hustles and sideles. 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.880 There's so many things to distract you from the craft. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.920 And that's why I'm glad that I stayed with my 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.120 guns and stayed working and always hustled. And you know, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.480 as I got older, I started to appreciate what working 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.640 really dumb for me and you know, my life. But 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.000 what people don't understand in the whole acting game is 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.080 is they confuse it. People are there, people are saying, oh, 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.160 being a struggling actor, that's what it is. And I'm said, no, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.080 I think people are totally wrong about that. You don't 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.280 have to be a struggling actor. You need to find 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.120 a path, you need to feed the knee. And I 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.600 don't want to sound funny, but I've always used this analogy, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.599 which may be a bad one, but a crackhead is 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.320 going to do whatever that person needs to do to 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.760 get cracked. They will steal from their mama, they will 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.240 rob a car, they don't care. It's so deep and 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.240 invested in and then they're going to do whatever to do 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.000 to get the craft, which is terrible. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:01.280 It's a terrible thing. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.600 But when you love acting as much as those people 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.000 need that drug, you do whatever you gotta do to 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.880 feed the need people want to if you're starving. You 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.839 can't be starving and going to an audition and not 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.880 seem desperate, right, you just can't. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.199 And that was like one of the things I think 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.600 last year when Jeffrey Owens and who was not familiar 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:22.800 with that was the gentleman. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.640 From Cosby should right when they's sol home working at 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.960 the supermarket. People are like, oh my gosh, what he's doing. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.680 But he's like, no, I'm in between kings right now. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.199 This is a real life rime. Like that's why I 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.520 said one of the things that that you made evidence like, yo, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.199 I worked at home people, I did these jobs. He said, yeah, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.240 I two good, but I got a hustle. And I 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.720 think people overlook that they want to climbing. It's Hollywood. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.600 I want to be famous, and it's like, nah, there's 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.960 a learn like that's you've earned that vision. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.679 Right, absolutely absolutely, And what what happens in the in 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.640 the in the in between. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.000 Calling that purgatory state, you know, purgatories, you know, between 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.840 heaven and hell. What happens is is that people get lost. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.000 People really get lost because. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.719 They want the fan, they want the money, and I 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.920 don't want to be like I've always been mister Diddy 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.840 two shoes because I wanted to do all that at 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:08.960 a time too. But all it did was make me 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.760 feel like less of a man, less of a person, 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.800 less of an actor because Edel told me. 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.280 But they said the I know it's. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.440 Actually a Bible, but I'm not super you know, religious, 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.120 but it said the sheep that stray furthest away from 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:23.720 the shepherd are the ones to get attacked by the 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.680 wolves first and something like that. But it's true because 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.480 the the shepherd's there to protect them, you know what 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:29.720 I mean. 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.320 You stay close to it, then you're good. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.520 But same thing with the game, Like if you stay 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.520 close to it and all you're doing is acting, class, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.160 working out, trying to do plays, watching plays, you don't 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.160 see that glitz and glam world, so it doesn't affect 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.199 you like you're in this bubble because all you want 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.040 to do is acting. People don't do that they start 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.679 to get to la and you start to see these 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.080 things and it's such a distraction. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.640 And when that happens financially, you start to feel cripple. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.679 You're like, here, I am working at this damn Starbucks, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.960 are working whatever just so I can go to auditions 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.600 for what I want in my life. I'm wasting my time. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.120 But that's because they started looking outside and set the inside. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:05.440 It is. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.040 If you would have just kept your little apartment, stay bob, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.559 stay frinding, stayed patient, then you would have been good. Finances. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.000 Don't come into it then because you're following a dream. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:15.440 That's true. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.880 It's like you'll see who has a passion and who's. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.640 Fight chasing that purpose. Yeah, I'm right. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.840 You like just hearing me talk about it, it's like you 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.400 could hear the purpose, like this is what I was 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.960 meant to do. But as people who don't, it's like 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.480 they're gonna physill. That's because it's like, I'm just doing 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:30.960 this because. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.480 I want to be doing And then one of the big, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.640 one of the bigger things, just to just to piggyback 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.480 what you were saying earlier, I came in and I 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:42.040 had I had natural talent. I was naturally talented from 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.840 like the energy and whatever. But skill and talent are 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.680 two different things, absolutely two different things. So I was 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.920 naturally talented and I booked. I had, like I booked 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.400 like four commercials in one year. There was a doctor 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.280 Pepper which I shot with a low cool jet. That 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.120 was crazy because that was the last commercial that run 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.800 DMC had done together before he right, that was the 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.880 last one. It was a doctor Pepper joint, so that 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.240 ran like crazy, which had me paid. I did the 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.480 McDonald's commercial, did a PlayStation two and to be by 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.600 all in the same year, you know what I mean. 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.440 And then my mom and my dad was super super excited. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.200 But my dad, my dad is real hard those He's like, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.240 you're the man, right right, you used to buy your 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:21.680 own house. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:22.600 I was goin to. 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.200 Like the expectations, right, like Paul Park numbers, how much 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.680 would a commercial pay? How much would being an extra? 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.000 Because I seen like even like rappers and stuff. I've 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.920 seen like interviews where that they're like in movies. But 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.640 I think I forgot who Cameron Cameron did paid him 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.240 for when he said he got five thousand dollars for it. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:42.160 If you think I'm like. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.480 Paid him for that's a at least in the hood, 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.320 right at least, but it's like I wouldn't. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:48.800 I would through he got paid more than five thousand. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.160 He's the lead acting. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.760 Now, when you get you gotta understand the business of acting, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.720 like when you when you start out. Whenever you see 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:59.200 somebody that's on you gotta know that that for a 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.000 year and a half, I don't care the stuff you see, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.240 they weren't getting paid like that. You're getting paid at 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.200 a quote. That's why when you got a good agent 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.600 or a good manager, they whatever you made that last 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.640 TV show, that's what they get to go off of. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:14.960 And if the movie or. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.520 The TV show is big enough, you'll knock that quote down, 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:19.200 you know what I mean. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:20.760 If my quote right now. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.480 Is at ten thousand dollars an episode, but a show like. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.480 This is us on the Marvelous MS. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.600 Mazel said, well, we'll take them, but we can only 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:29.920 maybe do five grande. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.600 I'm gonna do it because because. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.360 They know it will catapult my career to the next level. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:38.200 Absolutely. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.520 So when you see these people that you don't know, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.520 you see them on the shows or whatever. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.240 No, no, and you know who does make money like that? 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.360 When you see people like flow, that flow is the 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:53.880 face of progressive. That is a contract. That is a contract. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.040 Yeah shitever you don't hear that is a contract. But 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:57.960 when you see like even when you see me like 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.760 on Life Safe from a swat, I've done there the 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.359 four shows and like less than four months. It's been 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.639 a great year. But each of those, all I do 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.080 was piggyback off the quotes, off the quotes, off the quotes. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.560 And now I'm at a point where it's like, Okay, 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.840 give you why I'm cheap, and you better do it 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.159 because I know where I'm go And even if that 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:18.760 doesn't pop the way I needed to pop, it is 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.840 why I start writing and to producer to the next year. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.159 You know what I'm saying. You gotta control your destiny. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:25.120 You gotta control your faith. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.520 And the bad part about it is is that as 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.399 African Americans, we have we've been dumbed down to believe 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.159 that we can't do a lot of things that we 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.840 can because all movies are is telling stories, and they 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.679 make us believe only stories we can tell us about 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.280 cracking in the cities, somebody Mama or Daddy being goom. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.800 All that is is not it's like the slavery time period. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.840 It's like we never get to tell the static social exactly. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.360 It's enough though, it's enough. Everybody does not come from poverty. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.480 All these things. It's not the truth. But every time something. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:04.000