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Hiring Indeed is 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: all you need. 17 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: All right, All right, guys, welcome back to our religion podcast. 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: This is a very special edition La edition. 19 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah Cali Loved Shots, California, whole state of count shouts, open, shout, Yeah, 20 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: shouts over shout the Sacramento sho out to San Diego, 21 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: all over So you know, as we said before previously, 22 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: you know, the message of financial literacy is something that. 23 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: We need to spread all over the world, all over 24 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: the country. 25 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: So this is a dope trip for us when we're 26 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: on the West Side and we're connected with a lot 27 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: of great people. And you know, the premise of our 28 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: show if you are a loyal listener or if you're 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: just a new listener, the premise of our show is 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: that we tell the financial backstories but behind sports entertainment 31 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: business also. But it's comedy based around sports entertainment, right, 32 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: because a lot of times people don't fully thank or 33 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: they don't fully understand what goes into it. They just 34 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: watch the NFL, they watch a movie and watch Netflix. 35 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: But every business is a business, right. 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: We find that everything is a business, right, Education that's 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: a business. But every everything always comes back to the money. 38 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: It always comes back to my much. It always comes 39 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: back to your money. So with that being said, we 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: was lucky enough to connect with the brother Romyo Brown, 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: who is a actor and producer of entrepreneurs. 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a lot. He does a lot some 43 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: of the you know shows that he's been in. The 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: n CIS. 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: We have swat obviously the rookie just finished being married, 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Jean congratulations showing love. 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Atlanta, thank you for that. 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: It was good to so, you know, when I connected 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: with him on the phone, we spoke and I'm like, well, no, 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: we definitely really gotta get you on the show if possible, 51 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: because he just had a lot to say and you 52 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: know a lot of just good information that I think 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: would be very valuable to everybody to soak in. 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: So, first and foremost, thank you for coming on the show. 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. So we're numb right into it. 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: So you know, you're an actor, right amongst other things. 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: But we'll talk about the first segment as far as 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: your acting careers concern So a lot of people have 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: aspirations of being an actor, right, It's kind of like 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: being an athlete where it's glamorous. 61 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: Right. We see people, you know, we. 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: Watched the Oscar, We watched these awards shows. Watch everybody 63 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: wants to be an actor. So all right, can you 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: talk about your journey as far as getting to Hollywood 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: if you're not from la originally. 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: Like you know the steps that you took and you. 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Know how you you actually became a working actor because 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: it really set blueprint everybody's. 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: Journey, and that's that's one of the most deterring things 70 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 5: is that somebody, you know, you could be doing it 71 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 5: for ten fifteen years and still be struggling. 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: Somebody could come here for a year and pop, right, man, 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: you're just you know whatever. So that's crazy. But re 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: winded to the back. 75 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 5: Obviously from from Oakland, California. I'm like most black males. 76 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 5: I wanted to play football, but I got into the 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 5: drama program a boy my senior year, junior senior year, 78 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 5: and they said you got to pick these electives and 79 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 5: then I was like, well, Spanish seems really hard, and 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: all the girls seemed went there, and so I was like, 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna go with that. But 82 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: I just fell in love with it. For whatever reason 83 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 5: it was. I've never been one to like the monotony 84 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 5: of knowing what's gonna happen day to day and always 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 5: confused me and life is growing up. 86 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: It was just like, how come I'm not to do 87 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: the same thing every day? Like I know what's gonna happen, Yeah, 88 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what's for lunch. I actually gotta do it. 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: Im Ima looked at it, you got to you know 90 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 91 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: So when when I got to step on that stage 92 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 5: and you know, I was a bad guy or I 93 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 5: was the good guy, I. 94 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: Was just it was like every time I had to 95 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: put on these different. 96 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 5: Characters and if I've done it well, I was praised 97 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 5: for I was crazy and then I was like, Okay, 98 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 5: maybe I like this. Then I would really changed everything. 99 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 5: As I did the AIDS Awareness. 100 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: Play at the Henry J. 101 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 5: Kyser Center in Oakland, and I was just having a 102 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: great time with the character. And literally people after that 103 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 5: came up in tears telling me how much they appreciated 104 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 5: me telling that story, and they hit my heart. 105 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: I was like, wow, like I can change lives and 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: have fun. So I'm gonna do that, you know. 107 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 5: So I told my parents if all my parents and 108 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: my family has always been super super supportive, and you know, 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 5: I strapped up my boots and came out. Came out 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 5: this way, came out of cal State Northridge. Originally I 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: was with a theater major, theater major, but then I 112 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: started meeting cats quick. Like you know, me from being 113 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 5: in Oakland seeing the TV was like a fantasy world. 114 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 5: It might as well be Disneyland, you know. And then 115 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 5: seeing all these cars and stuff, I was like, are 116 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: they giving. 117 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: How If I want to give a free something's got 118 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: to be going on and tell me how to do it. 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 5: So it was just like it was like a big 120 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 5: culture shock coming coming from the Bay Area because we 121 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 5: just don't see the stuff you see. 122 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: You don't see the celebrities. 123 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 5: So to see a cat that's on like a Skillers commercial, 124 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 5: it was like, yo. 125 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: Do I'm in class like you know. And then as 126 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 3: you you know, I got a big energy. 127 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 5: You know, if I ever got to say anything about me, 128 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 5: that's like my my top top thing that I love 129 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 5: about me is my energy, Like I can I can 130 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 5: just absorb a room and just like if you beep 131 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 5: on him, I can just crush that, like come on, man, 132 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 5: what is this? Why are we doing it? And I 133 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 5: think people gravity take it towards me. And then I 134 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: started meeting the people and they just started like pouring 135 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 5: information out. So they's like, yo, you don't need to 136 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: be a theater major to do this, Like go ahead, 137 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: cut that out and then just take this class. 138 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 3: Just take this class. 139 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 5: So then I switched over the radio, radio, television, film 140 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 5: and I took that for a while it was cool. 141 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: And then where I found where my love and my 142 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: heart was was at marketing. So I still took marketing, 143 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 5: still doing the whole acting thing. 144 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: Whatever. The building blocks that marketing gave me was. 145 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 5: Insane, you know, it was insane, like, for instance, I'll 146 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 5: get right back to what you asked. But there was 147 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 5: this term in marketing called swat and it's not as 148 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: w a T, it's swot. And I feel like that 149 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: kind of structured my life in a big way because 150 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: the definition is in marketing, if you know your swat, 151 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 5: which is your strengths, your. 152 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: Weaknesses, your opportunities and threats. 153 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 5: Cool if you put that, if you really and be 154 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 5: honest with yourself, whether it's finances, whether it's your career, 155 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 5: whatever it is. 156 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: If you put that swat in. 157 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 5: Front of Eve and say, hey, what are my stunts, 158 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 5: what are my weaknesses, What are the. 159 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: Opportunities, and what are the threats. 160 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 5: If you really drill those down, there's nothing that you 161 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 5: can't achieve because now you know what your strengths are, 162 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 5: so you push those up. 163 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: Now you know what your weaknesses are. 164 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 5: You need to fix those, those opportunities need to go 165 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 5: after them and the threats. You got to figure out 166 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 5: why they threats. Because once you know what something want 167 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: something is a threat, you got the answers. That's just 168 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 5: like some people say, I'm not afraid of the dark, 169 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: I'm afraid of what's in the dark. 170 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. So that's that. And then 171 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: also the MVP. 172 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: And we're not talking about the most valuable player, it's 173 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 5: the most it's the minimum viable product. So maybe people 174 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: got these big dreams of you know, saying, oh, I 175 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 5: want to have this huge company or I want to 176 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 5: do this major feature film, and. 177 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: They never even get off ground. 178 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 5: One what that marketing class taught me was is to 179 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 5: dumb it down to the minimum viable product. What can 180 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 5: you do with your budget right now? I don't care 181 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 5: if it's one hundred dollars? What can how close can 182 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 5: you get to getting that done? Just you can get 183 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 5: an eye on. Okay, this worked, but how can I 184 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 5: make that grow? And from that you just start building. 185 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 5: I don't care if you got this crazy idea about 186 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: a magical coffee cup, Okay, well that magical coffee cup 187 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: is going to cost you a million dollars, will really 188 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 5: get made. So what you do is you take that 189 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: regular cup, go put sticker on it and tell people 190 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: what it will be about. Now make sixty of those. 191 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 5: Go sit somewhere and get the people's ideas. What do 192 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 5: you think about this? What do you think about this? 193 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: Now you got numbers, and it's power numbers, especially with 194 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: the internet. 195 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 5: Now you've got a following to say the people want this, 196 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: and then you just start rolling. But if you're just 197 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: so busy trying to get that magical coffee cup, you 198 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 5: go get a million dollars just by talking about the 199 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 5: national coffee cup. 200 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: That's a fact. 201 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that because it all intertwines, right, 202 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: It all into twines when we talk about entertaining entrepreneurship business. 203 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: And that's kind of duty to podcast, is that everything 204 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: if you really are aware of you can really maximize 205 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: your potential if you understand the business behind it. 206 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: Right. So, like what you just broke down with the 207 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 3: slot out of dop, I know actually. 208 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: Everything you said that before about it, it makes a 209 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: lot of sense, right Like so all right, so now 210 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: as far as being an actor, right, because we know 211 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: that a lot of people aspire to be an actor, 212 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: but they don't understand the financial side. I kind of 213 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: compare it to being an athlete. People always say, like, 214 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: how do athletes go broke? Right, But they don't know 215 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: that they might only get paid two times a month. 216 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: They don't know that about it. 217 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: They play in a different state, and they pay state 218 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 2: taxes in each state that they're playing that there's fees. 219 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: That come out. It's a lot of things that go 220 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: into it. 221 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: It's not it's, oh, I got fifty million dollars, right, 222 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 2: Like you might not even see a quart up that 223 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: because it's not guarantees and this is so much stuff. 224 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: Right. So acting is kind of similar with people. 225 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: You know, they look at actors like, oh, everybody's blowing 226 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: out of control. But there's a lot of financial things 227 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: that go into being an actor that people don't don't understand, right, 228 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: you just talk about. 229 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: It too well, Like first and foremost. 230 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 5: One of the things that I take again, it was 231 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 5: a big shot, Like nobody out there had jobs like 232 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 5: here I am. I come from open so I started 233 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 5: out working at home depot, you know what I mean. 234 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: And all my friends that were actors, they just never 235 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: went to work. I'm like, well, why am I the 236 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: only one going the way, but I hated it. They'd 237 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: be at pool parties, they'd be chilled. 238 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: Ah. 239 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 5: Man, it was. It was a rough time from it. 240 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: It was a rough one because I just didn't understand it. 241 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 5: And you know, and there's so many different hustles and sideles. 242 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 5: There's so many things to distract you from the craft. 243 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 5: And that's why I'm glad that I stayed with my 244 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: guns and stayed working and always hustled. And you know, 245 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 5: as I got older, I started to appreciate what working 246 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: really dumb for me and you know, my life. But 247 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 5: what people don't understand in the whole acting game is 248 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 5: is they confuse it. People are there, people are saying, oh, 249 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: being a struggling actor, that's what it is. And I'm said, no, 250 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 5: I think people are totally wrong about that. You don't 251 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: have to be a struggling actor. You need to find 252 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 5: a path, you need to feed the knee. And I 253 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 5: don't want to sound funny, but I've always used this analogy, 254 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 5: which may be a bad one, but a crackhead is 255 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 5: going to do whatever that person needs to do to 256 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 5: get cracked. They will steal from their mama, they will 257 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: rob a car, they don't care. It's so deep and 258 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 5: invested in and then they're going to do whatever to do 259 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: to get the craft, which is terrible. 260 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: It's a terrible thing. 261 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: But when you love acting as much as those people 262 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 5: need that drug, you do whatever you gotta do to 263 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 5: feed the need people want to if you're starving. You 264 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 5: can't be starving and going to an audition and not 265 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 5: seem desperate, right, you just can't. 266 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: And that was like one of the things I think 267 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: last year when Jeffrey Owens and who was not familiar 268 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: with that was the gentleman. 269 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: From Cosby should right when they's sol home working at 270 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: the supermarket. People are like, oh my gosh, what he's doing. 271 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 4: But he's like, no, I'm in between kings right now. 272 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: This is a real life rime. Like that's why I 273 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: said one of the things that that you made evidence like, yo, 274 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 4: I worked at home people, I did these jobs. He said, yeah, 275 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: I two good, but I got a hustle. And I 276 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 4: think people overlook that they want to climbing. It's Hollywood. 277 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: I want to be famous, and it's like, nah, there's 278 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 4: a learn like that's you've earned that vision. 279 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 5: Right, absolutely absolutely, And what what happens in the in 280 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 5: the in the in between. 281 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: Calling that purgatory state, you know, purgatories, you know, between 282 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: heaven and hell. What happens is is that people get lost. 283 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: People really get lost because. 284 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 5: They want the fan, they want the money, and I 285 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 5: don't want to be like I've always been mister Diddy 286 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 5: two shoes because I wanted to do all that at 287 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 5: a time too. But all it did was make me 288 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 5: feel like less of a man, less of a person, 289 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: less of an actor because Edel told me. 290 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: But they said the I know it's. 291 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 5: Actually a Bible, but I'm not super you know, religious, 292 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 5: but it said the sheep that stray furthest away from 293 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 5: the shepherd are the ones to get attacked by the 294 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 5: wolves first and something like that. But it's true because 295 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 5: the the shepherd's there to protect them, you know what 296 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 5: I mean. 297 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: You stay close to it, then you're good. 298 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 5: But same thing with the game, Like if you stay 299 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 5: close to it and all you're doing is acting, class, 300 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: working out, trying to do plays, watching plays, you don't 301 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 5: see that glitz and glam world, so it doesn't affect 302 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 5: you like you're in this bubble because all you want 303 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 5: to do is acting. People don't do that they start 304 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 5: to get to la and you start to see these 305 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 5: things and it's such a distraction. 306 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: And when that happens financially, you start to feel cripple. 307 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 5: You're like, here, I am working at this damn Starbucks, 308 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 5: are working whatever just so I can go to auditions 309 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 5: for what I want in my life. I'm wasting my time. 310 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: But that's because they started looking outside and set the inside. 311 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: It is. 312 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 5: If you would have just kept your little apartment, stay bob, 313 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 5: stay frinding, stayed patient, then you would have been good. Finances. 314 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: Don't come into it then because you're following a dream. 315 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: That's true. 316 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: It's like you'll see who has a passion and who's. 317 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: Fight chasing that purpose. Yeah, I'm right. 318 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: You like just hearing me talk about it, it's like you 319 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: could hear the purpose, like this is what I was 320 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: meant to do. But as people who don't, it's like 321 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: they're gonna physill. That's because it's like, I'm just doing 322 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 4: this because. 323 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: I want to be doing And then one of the big, 324 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 5: one of the bigger things, just to just to piggyback 325 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: what you were saying earlier, I came in and I 326 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: had I had natural talent. I was naturally talented from 327 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: like the energy and whatever. But skill and talent are 328 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: two different things, absolutely two different things. So I was 329 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 5: naturally talented and I booked. I had, like I booked 330 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: like four commercials in one year. There was a doctor 331 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 5: Pepper which I shot with a low cool jet. That 332 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: was crazy because that was the last commercial that run 333 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: DMC had done together before he right, that was the 334 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: last one. It was a doctor Pepper joint, so that 335 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 5: ran like crazy, which had me paid. I did the 336 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 5: McDonald's commercial, did a PlayStation two and to be by 337 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 5: all in the same year, you know what I mean. 338 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 5: And then my mom and my dad was super super excited. 339 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 5: But my dad, my dad is real hard those He's like, 340 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: you're the man, right right, you used to buy your 341 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: own house. 342 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: I was goin to. 343 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: Like the expectations, right, like Paul Park numbers, how much 344 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: would a commercial pay? How much would being an extra? 345 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: Because I seen like even like rappers and stuff. I've 346 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: seen like interviews where that they're like in movies. But 347 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: I think I forgot who Cameron Cameron did paid him 348 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: for when he said he got five thousand dollars for it. 349 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: If you think I'm like. 350 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: Paid him for that's a at least in the hood, 351 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: right at least, but it's like I wouldn't. 352 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: I would through he got paid more than five thousand. 353 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: He's the lead acting. 354 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 5: Now, when you get you gotta understand the business of acting, 355 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 5: like when you when you start out. Whenever you see 356 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: somebody that's on you gotta know that that for a 357 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 5: year and a half, I don't care the stuff you see, 358 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 5: they weren't getting paid like that. You're getting paid at 359 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: a quote. That's why when you got a good agent 360 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 5: or a good manager, they whatever you made that last 361 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: TV show, that's what they get to go off of. 362 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: And if the movie or. 363 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 5: The TV show is big enough, you'll knock that quote down, 364 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 365 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: If my quote right now. 366 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 5: Is at ten thousand dollars an episode, but a show like. 367 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: This is us on the Marvelous MS. 368 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 5: Mazel said, well, we'll take them, but we can only 369 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 5: maybe do five grande. 370 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it because because. 371 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 5: They know it will catapult my career to the next level. 372 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 373 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 5: So when you see these people that you don't know, 374 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 5: you see them on the shows or whatever. 375 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: No, no, and you know who does make money like that? 376 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: When you see people like flow, that flow is the 377 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 5: face of progressive. That is a contract. That is a contract. 378 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: Yeah shitever you don't hear that is a contract. But 379 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 5: when you see like even when you see me like 380 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: on Life Safe from a swat, I've done there the 381 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 5: four shows and like less than four months. It's been 382 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 5: a great year. But each of those, all I do 383 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: was piggyback off the quotes, off the quotes, off the quotes. 384 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: And now I'm at a point where it's like, Okay, 385 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 5: give you why I'm cheap, and you better do it 386 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 5: because I know where I'm go And even if that 387 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: doesn't pop the way I needed to pop, it is 388 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: why I start writing and to producer to the next year. 389 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You gotta control your destiny. 390 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: You gotta control your faith. 391 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: And the bad part about it is is that as 392 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 5: African Americans, we have we've been dumbed down to believe 393 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: that we can't do a lot of things that we 394 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 5: can because all movies are is telling stories, and they 395 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 5: make us believe only stories we can tell us about 396 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 5: cracking in the cities, somebody Mama or Daddy being goom. 397 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: All that is is not it's like the slavery time period. 398 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: It's like we never get to tell the static social exactly. 399 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 4: It's enough though, it's enough. Everybody does not come from poverty. 400 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: All these things. It's not the truth. But every time something. 401 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 5: Gets championed, are highlighted, it's gotta be about negative things 402 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: or slavery or whatever. 403 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 3: When we people just like anybody else, you know. And 404 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: that's why. 405 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 5: Us it's so good because what happens is as African 406 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 5: American writers, we feel like we gotta put on the shelf. 407 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 5: So instead of laughing with us, you're laughing at us. 408 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: When you usually see a white company, you're just laughing 409 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 5: at their comedy. You'll never be like, oh, I'm gonna 410 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 5: watch a white movie because I'm but you gonna watch 411 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 5: a black film. And that's what I think us did. 412 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: It took those color lines off because we didn't need 413 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: the Hey, you didn't see nobody saddy. 414 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: Adn't see no guns. It was just a black family 415 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: just done it all, you know what, and that was it. 416 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 5: And you didn't say, oh, it's a black movie because 417 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 5: there was no reminiants of that. 418 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: You know, everybody was just happening. Yeah, it was. It 419 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: was dope. 420 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 4: But it was like I think China had this conversation, 421 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: like when we watched the Insecurity, it was like, yo, 422 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 4: black professionals like those are like the women that we 423 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: are going same, but the things we're waiting for that 424 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 4: and next thing, it's like yo, young black men else 425 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 4: we're doing similar things, have great stories. Don't comfort poverty? 426 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 4: Who never saw drugs? Why professionals like. 427 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: We need that. It's coming, it's coming, It's it's coming. 428 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 5: Is And I'm almost ashamed because when I saw Black Panther, 429 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: I had never seen black so beautiful. I just had 430 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 5: like a baldhead black woman looking that like the whole cast, right, 431 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 5: the whole cast. I'm just like wow. And it was 432 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 5: like first I was ashamed with it. I was like, 433 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: my whole life, I have never seen that my whole life. 434 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 5: I have never seen black is beautiful on that level. 435 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 5: We're talking about superheroes the whole time. 436 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: You see in Superman, Batman, all these other people, which 437 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: is cool. 438 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 5: I'm not hating on it. But to see it and 439 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 5: we be this old and have to take a breath 440 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 5: like wow, it. 441 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: Just shows you what happens. 442 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 5: And then now you start to see that we can 443 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 5: tell our own stories, we can start producing. Because that, 444 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: I would say is what changed me as an actor, 445 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 5: because I was like, you know what, up, I can 446 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 5: tell my story. My story is from Oakland. My story 447 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 5: is about my family, my little sister of my baby 448 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 5: sister has breast cancer. There's a lot of things going 449 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: on in Oakland that I don't approve of, but I 450 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 5: feel like I had a hand in that because I'm a. 451 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: Very educated person. I'm very well spoken. 452 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 5: But if if everybody who has talent leaves the city, 453 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 5: and that's what we just hand back, who's. 454 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: Walk is at? And that that leads us to our 455 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 3: next segment. 456 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about what you're doing behind the scenes 457 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: and also the town oh until job? 458 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: All right? 459 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: So okay, so now we talked about you know, your 460 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: journey and getting into Hollywood and the journey of any actor, 461 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 2: but we want to get behind the scenes as well. 462 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 3: Right, So you are not just an actor, you're a producer. 463 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: As well, right, And you got a couple of interesting 464 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: projects that you're working on. 465 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: We're gonna get to that, but all right, can. 466 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: You talk about your journey from being an actor to 467 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: wanting to be a producer and so how that looks 468 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: because now that's strictly like you got to be a 469 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: businessman or woman to be an actor, right because you 470 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: got to be on top of. 471 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 3: Your petn Q. 472 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: But if you're a producer, you definitely have to be 473 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: because that's what it is. Right Like now you're actually 474 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, have a budget. You got to allocate that budget. 475 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: You got to try to get the budget, you got 476 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: to know how much money. You gotta have proposals and 477 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: all that stuff. So that is actually even to me 478 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: even more important because you the purple person behind the 479 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: camera has more power than the person in front of 480 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: the cameras. And this is why we talk about images 481 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: as far like what you just said about black Panther 482 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: and how we're portrayed, you know, in the media and 483 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: all that stuff, is because the person behind the camera 484 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 2: for so long didn't look like us, right, so they 485 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: can they can dictate whatever they want as a narrative. 486 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: It's concerna right, So can you talk about the journey 487 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: behind the camera and what that looks like from your perspective, 488 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: because I'm sure it's interesting. You know, you're learning as 489 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: your goal, so I'm pretty sure it. Well, one thing 490 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: we want to express. First is what happens. 491 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: Between a movie and a book, which you will also 492 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 5: relate to Instagram. If we all watch a movie or 493 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 5: see the same post, our mind's eye has been forced 494 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 5: to see the same thing, right. 495 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: But if you get a book, we can all read 496 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 3: the same book. 497 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 5: But if we broke down that girl in it, the guy, 498 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 5: even the dog, everybody's opinion of that will look so 499 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 5: different interpretation, right. And see, that's the problem with the 500 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 5: world we live in today. Everybody's allowing people to force 501 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 5: their opinions just by watching stuff. So what I wanted 502 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 5: to do was once I realized that, I'm like, yo, 503 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 5: it's such a visual world. 504 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: That's why Instagram is flourishing, because you know what I mean, 505 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: People just want to see. People just want to see, 506 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: They want to see, they want to see. 507 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 5: And that's why I don't have tons of Instagram followers 508 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 5: because I just still want to be part of that world. 509 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 5: I just did not want to be part of that 510 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 5: world as as long as I've been doing it. Like 511 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 5: if you look at my credits, like if I wanted 512 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 5: to do that, I could have did that when I 513 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 5: was on tour, but I didn't want to be like, hey, 514 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 5: get this picture with me, either to me, you know, and. 515 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: A struggle behind was still struggle. You know. 516 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 5: I had bought the property, but to keep up property 517 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: it's hard too. I had people moving in and moving 518 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: out on me, all of that. But once I realized 519 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 5: that visually things changed lives, I said, Okay, either you could, 520 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 5: you know, you could either do it or don't because 521 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 5: it's going to leave you behind. So how do you 522 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 5: change people's opinion about it or how do you make 523 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: yourself feel good about doing it? And the only way 524 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 5: I have to do that was to tell my story, 525 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 5: to tell what I knew first, because once I understand anything, 526 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 5: and not to go off track. 527 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: But I just got an amazing job, an amazing job. 528 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 5: I work as an IT tech where we install smartphones 529 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 5: and security for celebrities and major companies. And when I 530 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 5: saw all these wires, all this stuff, I'm like, yo, 531 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna. 532 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,239 Speaker 3: Get fired next week. This is around, I'm gonna lose 533 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: the best job I got in a week. 534 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 5: But as I started to understand it and understanding it, 535 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 5: I'm rocking. 536 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 3: Now, you know what I mean? I feel like they 537 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: do that to us with too stocks. 538 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 5: They make us not understand it all these all these 539 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 5: words they use so you don't understand anyway, But now 540 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 5: I understand. 541 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: So when I said, was look, I'll tell. 542 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 5: My story in a way that makes me feel comfortable 543 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: and it opens the eyes to things. And I feel 544 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 5: like Oakland right now is being like taken over. I 545 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 5: feel like my city is being like literally ripped. Nothing 546 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 5: from the the original Oakland will be there. The raiders 547 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 5: are going, the warriors are going. All these things are happening. 548 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 5: So I was like, listen, how do I how do 549 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 5: I show my point of view? So I just start writing. 550 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 5: I just start writing. You know, I know the pain 551 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: come from my family because, like I said, my family 552 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 5: was never broken. You know, I never had a broken family. 553 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 5: My parents did a divorced to till two years ago, you. 554 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. But they were together. My mom 555 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: had me at sixteen, you know what I'm saying. So 556 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: you know their separation is you know, on them. 557 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 5: But everybody poured so much love into me when I 558 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 5: was home, and when they told me to go, that's 559 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 5: all I did. I never looked back once, you know 560 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 5: what I mean. And when you leave a piece of 561 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 5: a puzzle leaves I feel like there's a gap and 562 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: that's what I'm just trying to fix now. So on 563 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 5: this producing side, I can't say that I'm a master 564 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: producer or even a master writer. I just know that 565 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 5: I'm a good captain. I know, I know I hired 566 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 5: the appropriate people to do it, and I know that 567 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 5: I speak with enough passion and. 568 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: They believe me. They don't just jump on and be like, Oh, 569 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. Oh I'm gonna do this. No, 570 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: I don't know how to do this. Can you help me? 571 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: That's what I can't do that that's important right now? 572 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: Help me? And knowing that is important, right, you know what, 573 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm not great at this. Let me find somebody who 574 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: is great. 575 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 4: And the fact that you're even doing it and acknowledge 576 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 4: them is like the inspiration behind it, right because they 577 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: might be a kid that's watching, like, you know what, 578 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: he did it, He's from here. 579 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: I got a chance, right, you know what I'm saying. 580 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 3: And that's that's dope. 581 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: Like when you're doing you're doing the work, but you 582 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: don't know that the impact that it's happening a trillions, 583 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: even barns, that's dope. 584 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: And then financially, on the financial side of it. 585 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 5: You are one hundred percent correct, because what happens is 586 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 5: is me sitting behind the camera saying, Okay, this project 587 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 5: may cost me one hundred thousand dollars, and if I'm 588 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 5: gonna get that hundred dollars, and I'm gonna take it 589 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 5: out and say my condo that I own, now, that's 590 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: my money. 591 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: That's my money. So now you're sitting behind. 592 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 5: This camera saying, who's gonna do the best job to 593 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 5: get me my money back? 594 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 3: That's what every actor needs to understand. You're coming up 595 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: in this game. 596 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 5: I don't care who you are. My job behind that camera. 597 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 5: Everybody's on this side. Who's gonna get our money back? 598 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 5: You could be a better actor, but that dude has 599 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 5: a name, So don't go beat yourself up. I want 600 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 5: my everybody want their money back. I don't do it 601 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: for the love of it. If I put one hundred 602 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: thousand dollars in, I at least better get my money 603 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 5: that And I think a lot of actors get in 604 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 5: this game think about themselves or in the business side, 605 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 5: because I did too. 606 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: That's all I was thinking about, Like, yo, I want 607 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: to do this, I want to do some own this. 608 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: When I would have. 609 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: Really thought about the business and say, listen, you got 610 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 5: to see it from their eyes and see what they 611 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: want to be seen as opposed to you just trying 612 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 5: to be this character, because when you understand the investment, 613 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 5: then you put a little bit more blessed well and 614 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 5: tears into that character because it's like, listen, you got 615 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: to be the best. 616 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: If I'm putting my money on you. Yeah, I'm put 617 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: my money on you. 618 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you so, all right, if I'm 619 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: a kid in college or high school, whatever, and I 620 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: have dreams of writing a show for Netflix or a 621 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: movie or whatever, how would I go about raising money? 622 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: What avenues is it to actually raise. 623 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 5: Money to you know, put a project together? I would say, 624 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 5: do not do not go around trying to raise money. 625 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 5: Submerge yourself in the craft. 626 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: Whatever it is you're doing. 627 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: When you you know it's right, when it's at the 628 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 5: level it needs to be at, the money will come. 629 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 5: Submerge yourself in that. Like you gotta find like you 630 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 5: need to be in a class. 631 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: You need to be in this. You needs to be 632 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: in that. 633 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: Because I'm telling you whenever whenever I'm not feeling good 634 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 5: is because I have I've stepped out of bounds. I'm 635 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 5: not in the gym. I'm not an acting class. I'm 636 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 5: not doing the things that I need to do to 637 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 5: do it. But I promise you, when you stay in 638 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 5: the when you stay in the cipher, it comes out 639 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 5: of the woolworks and when you got something good too. 640 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 5: Some people got to understand when bullshit is bullshit and 641 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 5: God can't. 642 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 3: Help you it, don't take you gotta take these tips. 643 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: If you ain't got the shit right, you know what 644 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: I mean. But if you got a product. 645 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 5: And you stay with it, and you stay humble, and 646 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: you stay just pressing it, fixing it, press it and 647 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 5: fix it, trying to raise. 648 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: Money, don't let that be your focus. 649 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 5: Make sure that make sure that that thing that you're 650 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 5: doing is as good as it can be. Like that's 651 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 5: why when I when I wrote that, when I wrote 652 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 5: the Town and then I put it out there, it 653 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 5: was like you delivering a baby out into the world. 654 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: And then when people was like, yo, this is fire, 655 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: I was like, that was my first time out the gate. 656 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 5: What can I do? What else can I do? So 657 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: I would say, don't don't focus on money, don't focus 658 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: on other people's ideas of what you're doing. 659 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: Just make it the best it could be. 660 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 5: Even an acting people are like, oh, give me a 661 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 5: tip on this, or give me a tip on that. 662 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 5: I was like, no, how do I find an agent? No, 663 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 5: go to a class that is a good class. Not 664 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 5: because they got this huge name. Wasting all your money. 665 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: Not wasting all your money because you going people being 666 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 5: a thousand dollars of acting classes and barely even going up. 667 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, don't do that. What you 668 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: want to do is dumb down your life. Dumb down 669 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 5: your life so that you can really see what's what 670 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, So you can say, hey, 671 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 5: you know what, I'm wasting money on this, I'm wasting 672 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 5: money on that. 673 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: Live less so you can live more, you know what 674 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 3: I mean. Start to really break those down. 675 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 5: The mint app is huge, Like people worry about, oh 676 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 5: I don't know how to like thous my books or 677 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: you notice the men that you put your bank account 678 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: stuff in there, it'll show me. 679 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 3: And it was baffling to me. I was like, oh, 680 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not spending that much money. I'm okay, 681 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: it's only like ten thousand, ten dollars there fifteen to 682 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: twenty when men put it up. It's like, Yo, you 683 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: spent eight hundred dollars on leisure. 684 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 5: I'm like, no, I didn't. That's impossible. Yeah, and put 685 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: when you can see it, it's there because we got it. Yeah, 686 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 5: And so ask you a question. Focus on the passion, 687 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 5: because when you focus on the passion, I promise you 688 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 5: the universe is going to work in your favor. 689 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: Because that's that's important. Man. 690 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: So I'm going back to the part where like from 691 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: a financial standpoint, how somebody can get into acting as 692 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: far as raising and dedicating themselves to the craft. But 693 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 4: you said before you got to cal State Northridge, there 694 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: was a program that you were in for acting. Absolutely, yeah, 695 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: you talk about that little bit, summer Bridge program. Summer 696 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: Bridge program saved my life. 697 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 698 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 5: What happens is summer Bridge program only takes something I 699 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: think maybe one hundred students or whatnot. They only take 700 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 5: actually thirty abroad, and then they keep the other ones 701 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 5: right here Los Angeles and they take the kids who. 702 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: You know had the numbers and you know, maybe had 703 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: the grades but just. 704 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 5: You know, either one thing didn't work out or you know, 705 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 5: they knew they wouldn't get into the colleges they needed immediately. 706 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 5: So you go into the Summer Ridge program, which allows 707 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: you to go to the college that summer before your 708 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 5: first year. 709 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: So it just it. 710 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 5: Changed everything about me going into college because I had 711 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 5: a group of kids. It was about eighty of us, 712 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 5: and we had Pan African studies, we had one of 713 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 5: the history classes in one of the elective classes. All 714 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: of us we started with a chip on our shoulder anyway, 715 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: because we felt like we should have got in the 716 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 5: way everybody else got in. 717 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: But when you know you're. 718 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 5: Going against people who know exactly how to get into college, 719 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 5: I just wasn't taught that, you know. I thought I 720 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 5: thought I was good, you know, but you don't know 721 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 5: that you're going against everybody else. Indeed, you going against 722 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 5: everybody in the United States. So it really helps me 723 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 5: out in one way because A got me into college. 724 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: B It gave me a home. 725 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 5: I felt at home before I happen to deal with 726 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 5: this big college thing, you. 727 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 3: Know, Oh my god, I'm going to college. Didn't feel 728 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: like that. It felt like I was in. 729 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: High school still because I had this group of people 730 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 5: that was with me before, and then we had our 731 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 5: own rais, which is a resident advisor so when we 732 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 5: came in our freshman year, we was kind of like sophomores. 733 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 5: People was coming to us asking us questions like, oh, 734 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 5: how you get here or how you do this? We 735 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 5: were like, oh, you're trying to get over there, it's 736 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 5: right there. Oh the lunshrow is right here. Then you 737 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: got your crew, so you feel you feel safer in 738 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 5: a safer environment when you already have your classes and 739 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 5: the professors was like hand on, the resident advices was 740 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 5: hand on. 741 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: Whatever your weakness was, they had people. 742 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 5: There to literally help you do it, like literally, like 743 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 5: anything that you were bad at, they weren't letting you 744 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: out of there with being. 745 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: That same weakness. 746 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: That's because a lot of the people don't have that 747 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 4: old things when they go to college. 748 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: So like the programs like that. Definitely, the summer Ridge 749 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 3: is big. Summer Ridges big. 750 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 5: And then I was gone, like I didn't have that 751 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 5: time to even think about, oh I might not do it, 752 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 5: so I may not do that. 753 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: One week after I graduated, I was gone. I ain't 754 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: never been that to. 755 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 5: Open sens not I mean, not to live obviously, you know, 756 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: to visit vand but since I left, it was like 757 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 5: I ain't going back to open you know what I mean. 758 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: Now, what you said was key as far as and 759 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: we said that at the time, you gotta stay down 760 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: til you come up as far as don't work. It's 761 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: interesting you said don't worry about getting funded in because 762 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people dm us and because we you know, 763 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: we talk about the streaming walls, right but Apple getting 764 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: and streaming and Netflix and Fox and all that stuff. 765 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: So right now it's a good time, I. 766 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: Think for creators because there's a lot of different opportunities, 767 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: right And people they asked that question. That's why I 768 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: asked you. People were like, well, how did idea? But 769 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: how do I get in front of Netflix or how 770 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: do I get in front of Amazon? How do I 771 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: get in front of Apple? Where I can you know, 772 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: pitch this and get a series. But your thing is, 773 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: don't worry about just put out have a good quality 774 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: product first. 775 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: The energy will just align with the universe has a. 776 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 5: RELI it's meant to be absolutely I mean, I mean, 777 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 5: that's that's just what I believe, because there's no way 778 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 5: that if you're giving your absolute off, if you're giving 779 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 5: everything and I mean ten toes down, if you're giving everything, 780 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,479 Speaker 5: it just it just doesn't. 781 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 3: It doesn't work. The world doesn't work like that. 782 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 5: But it's very hard to give your absolute awe to 783 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 5: cut out. I mean all of the like the Bull 784 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 5: really focused on it, like be able to put that 785 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 5: script or idea out, get notes, redo it, do it again, 786 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 5: get notes. Like it took a year and a half 787 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 5: for me to actually get the script in everything that 788 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 5: I have down, then to get the numbers and say, 789 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 5: you know what, this is. 790 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 3: A million dollar script. 791 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 5: Maybe I can't have that hospital scene, maybe I can't 792 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 5: have that air force scene. You start to really say, 793 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 5: how do I've done this down to the minimum viable product? 794 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: People see if I get this thing actually done? 795 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 5: And then once you start seeing that, it just changed 796 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: your perspective on every thing, like even don't don't don't 797 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 5: eat football. These networks, the streaming and Netflix, because you 798 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 5: don't get paid like you get paid with network. 799 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: It's a streaming thing. 800 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: So it's way different with caps because it based on 801 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 4: the numbers of the people who who actually consumed it. 802 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 5: Those contracts ain't are nothing to doing none of that 803 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 5: like people like on a smaller scale, when Netflix produce 804 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: something like you're getting paid whatever they pay you that 805 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 5: don't have nothing to do with anything else. Only time 806 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 5: you really start getting like power like that, like real 807 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 5: power is like when you start getting second and third seasons, 808 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 5: because now you can be like, you know what I 809 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 5: was leave and they know that you're a pivotal part 810 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 5: in that in that you know that series are or 811 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 5: that movie, that franchise. Now you got all the power, 812 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 5: you got the juice. But until then, until people start 813 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 5: watching like that, you're at the mercy of you know. 814 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: I think that's one of the one of. 815 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 5: The misconceptions, right, you know what I mean, because people 816 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 5: will see people doing stuff they don't realize like that 817 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 5: person is struggling, Like like I'm doing well right now, 818 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 5: but I'm only doing well because of the avenues of 819 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 5: money that I have. Like that condo I have is 820 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 5: paying for not only itself, but the place I live. 821 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: Like I also still work. 822 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 5: I got a voice over studio in my house, you know, 823 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 5: and then I still got a job that lets me 824 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 5: go and come as out you know. 825 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: Please, So multiple strings of hell yeah yeah. 826 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 5: So it's like when you humble yourself, it changes your perspective. 827 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 5: I had to work at Costco just because things was 828 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 5: just getting rough and I was like, you need to 829 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: get off this. 830 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 3: High horse man. 831 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 5: You know, you went around, run around with celebrities, thought 832 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 5: you was cool doing all this, and now look what 833 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 5: you got. You talking about Quinn act and you talking 834 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 5: about you might think about going back to open but 835 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 5: you've done this. You dumbed that hole for yourself, trying 836 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 5: to be flied. And then when I had to go 837 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 5: back to when I had to go back to work 838 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: at night, working at Costco, it humbled me, you know 839 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 5: what I mean, And it made me realize the energy 840 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 5: and the power that I had to meet because you 841 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 5: had people just working in there like why are you 842 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: working here? 843 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: Because I was stupid for my year to have doing 844 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: stupid shit. 845 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 5: It everybody want to give you the answers, and then 846 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 5: you start appreciating, is this what I. 847 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: Want to do my whole life? 848 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 5: You said you want to do something, you told yourself 849 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 5: you came in for a reason, and you you to turn. 850 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: Off that step. And then once you realize that I 851 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: don't want to have to do this. 852 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 5: As at some point in my life I want to 853 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 5: what I want a kid, and this is the profession 854 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 5: I chose. So if you ain't gonna be all in, 855 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 5: you need to just quit so you can do something else. 856 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 5: Because I'm very talented. I can do a lot of things, 857 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 5: and working regular jobs, regular stuff is what gave me 858 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 5: the passion and desire to push forwards. 859 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 3: Like I can't do this, I cannot do this every day. 860 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 5: And then I took all my auditions, everything out, everything 861 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 5: else in my life. 862 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 3: I took so much more serious. So when you said, 863 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 3: all right, I just thought about something. Streaming. When we 864 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 3: think about streaming's first thing the music business, right, how 865 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 3: many streams you give? 866 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: You make money per stream small amount, even YouTube you 867 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 2: make money per like stream well listen right, but Netflix doesn't. 868 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: It doesn't work like that. Huh, like it does. It 869 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how many people actually watch your show. You 870 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 2: just get a lot some of money whatever. 871 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 5: That what you signed is what you signed that I'm 872 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 5: only talking about on the I I mean. 873 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: No, because that's it's just how actor goes. You don't. 874 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 3: You don't unless it's inked and you're the lead and 875 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: you already have a name. 876 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, then maybe it's like, okay, we can pay this 877 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 5: on the back end, or we can do this. But 878 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 5: when you go in the negotiations happened. 879 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 3: Before you even touched the set. 880 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 4: It's like it's like bird Box, Yeah, like they signed 881 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 4: the contract to do Birdbodes. 882 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 3: The response is so crazy like that. It's like the number. 883 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: But it's part too. We're gonna need something that. Now. 884 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 5: That's when you start having a power and it's like, okay, 885 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 5: here's part two. Well I won't do it unless this, 886 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 5: and they're like, well how about this? Okay, well how 887 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 5: about that? 888 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because that's the same thing 889 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: with like pilot season. Real quick, it's like, pilot. 890 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 5: Season is one of the biggest parts of the year 891 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 5: for actors and the people trying to get these things done. 892 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 5: People don't know what pilot's going to pop. So you 893 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 5: could book a pilot, but they don't get picked up. 894 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 5: You book a pilot, it gets aired and get cut 895 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 5: in the third week, and nobody thought was going to rock. 896 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 5: It's like, you know what I mean, something that was 897 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 5: gonna go because it was a book and stuff. Some 898 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 5: of the stuff that people just take a chance on, 899 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 5: some of the ones that just just you be like, wow, 900 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 5: eight season and I. 901 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 3: Say that to myself. 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Under President Trump, America's laws, 953 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 7: border and families will be protected. 954 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 955 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 4: And when we talk about music, right, the person who 956 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 4: writes directord gets paid the president producers if you paid. 957 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 4: So if you have a project and you're doing all 958 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,479 Speaker 4: those things, those are another those are poems of income. 959 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 3: Right. 960 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 4: So like you do your own project right, you produce 961 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 4: it directed and you starting it, we're talking four different 962 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 4: chains of income. You are, but you aren't because in 963 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 4: the beginning doing all those things, you're wearing nows hats. 964 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 3: Because you're trying to save that money. Doesn't what else right? 965 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 5: Because you want the project to be at its best. 966 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 3: So even if somebody does, because right now. 967 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 5: I'm pitching and I'm having pitch meetings, I'm talking and 968 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 5: they're like, Okay. 969 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 3: Well what if you know what two hundred thousand episode work? 970 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: So that's what you got. 971 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 5: You have that two hundred thousand dollars to produce that 972 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 5: entire episode. So I could be like, shit, well i'm 973 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 5: the director, I'll take that. I'm starting, I'll take that 974 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 5: and also erode it. Now you're down fifty grand. Now 975 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 5: your project to your project has sacrificed because you could 976 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 5: have put that into maybe some more wardrobe, another location, 977 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 5: of those things like that are giving it to the 978 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 5: cast member. 979 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 3: Maybe you only want one strong lead. 980 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 5: That fifty you took, you could have gained that to 981 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 5: that person because you know they're going to bring eyes 982 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 5: to that. So it's on two sides of it once 983 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 5: you kind of get up there, yes, but in the 984 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 5: beginning you need to take that hell in the beginning 985 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 5: so you can do justice. If you believe in your projects. 986 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 5: Some people don't care. Some people like, yeah, i'll put 987 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 5: it out whatever, if you pay. 988 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: Me out to take a check, that's your side. You 989 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, take the check and run. 990 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 5: But if you're invested and you believe in your project, 991 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 5: you want to stay there from start to finish it 992 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 5: because people can people try to tinure with my project? 993 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 5: Are you okay with not being the lead? Can we 994 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 5: not have it in Oakland? It's a lot of things, 995 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 5: and it's just like, what are you willing to sacrifice 996 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 5: it in this project? I don't want to be in 997 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 5: too much because it's a passion project for me. It's 998 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 5: about my family, it's about Oakland. It's about a lot 999 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 5: of things that people really need to hear because it's 1000 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 5: like the newspaper. 1001 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: You can read the bullshit if you want to, but 1002 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 3: if you really want to know, you gotta dig. No, 1003 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that. That leads us right to 1004 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 3: our next topic. 1005 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 2: All right, so we talked about a few things, but 1006 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: now we're. 1007 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 3: Going to talk about a few different things. 1008 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 2: But if they all tie into each other, don't talk 1009 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: about real estate and we want talk about a gificcation. 1010 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: We want talk about your project, and they're all tie 1011 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 2: into each other. Right, So you're working on a project. 1012 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: Now about the town locally, right, And you. 1013 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: Was telling us off camera and some interesting thing because 1014 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 2: you know, like I said, one of. 1015 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 3: The things about art show is sports and entertainment. 1016 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 2: Sports, right, So if anybody's a sports fan, you know 1017 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 2: that Oakland a lot of teams are leaving Oakland, right, 1018 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 2: So the Raiders leaving, the Warriors, this is their last 1019 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 2: season playing in Oakland and moving to San Francisco. And 1020 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 2: there's even rumors that at the Oakland a's me leave 1021 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: all right, right, So but you I didn't really think 1022 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: about it until you actually broke it down as far. 1023 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 3: As the play behind that. So can you just talk. 1024 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 2: About that because it's interesting and it also ties into 1025 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 2: your series. 1026 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 5: We're talking about well, I mean, this is all you know, hearsay, 1027 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 5: but facts sounds like facts, then it's more than like 1028 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 5: the facts. San Francisco is the most expensive place to 1029 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 5: live in America because of the tech world. It's literally 1030 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 5: bombing and San Francisco is pull up like there's no 1031 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 5: more space. They can't build any more skyts, papers, they can't, 1032 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 5: they can't put people in the old ships. 1033 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: People are gonna. 1034 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 5: Start like camping on the bridge and the next place 1035 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 5: over is Oakland. Now everybody's all caught up into the 1036 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 5: whole of what's happening, but they're not listening to the 1037 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 5: real reasoning of why, Like all of a sudden, the 1038 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 5: Raiders had a great season before car got hurt. 1039 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 3: Why would you do that? The Warriors have never been 1040 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 3: as good as. 1041 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 5: They are ever ever, So right, we'll talk about that. 1042 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 5: So now you've got the Raiders going to Vegas, You've 1043 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 5: got the Gold the State Warriors going to San Francisco. 1044 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 3: What happens to a community? What happens to a community 1045 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 3: that thrives on their sports team. 1046 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 5: We're not talking about people like our team. Raiders suck, 1047 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 5: but they still believe something. 1048 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,959 Speaker 3: I mean, I think they are. 1049 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 4: A fandom, like they have one of the humans vanities, 1050 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 4: the black that something happened in the black hole. 1051 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 3: You you you know, you know about it. 1052 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 4: I was telling you before, Like my Dans from King 1053 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 4: Sinavaga pair of teams on the Rats still to this 1054 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 4: day like and I'm just like, what's the core lazy? 1055 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 3: He's just like he loved the ruggedness, he loved the running. 1056 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: He's from the John Madden coaching EA, exactly know. He 1057 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 3: just loved the runningness of the rate that black and Silver. 1058 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely so I in in in doing the. 1059 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 5: Series that I was trying to produce and trying to produce. 1060 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 5: Now I went to Oakland and I just I literally 1061 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 5: just wanted everybody and I was just like, hey, how can. 1062 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: You help me? What can be done? What are we doing? 1063 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 3: And then the story. 1064 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 5: Start to write itself, like everybody wanted to help. And 1065 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 5: I found out that they were giving cash for keys. 1066 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you do? Like, I was like, 1067 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 3: what does that even mean? 1068 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 5: What's happened now is is that the property values have 1069 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 5: went up, you know, tremendously, so now that these people 1070 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 5: are living in these homes, they can't afford the property tax. 1071 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. And on top of that, 1072 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 5: businesses and things are being shut down. Somebody who was 1073 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 5: cool working at that Walmart. Walmart's not anymore now. All 1074 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 5: these businesses and things that have to be shut down 1075 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 5: because the tech world, which is fine, but the culture 1076 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 5: is getting to. 1077 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 3: Be away, you know what I mean. 1078 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 5: That's just like if you go take go to Philly 1079 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 5: and take Sylvester Saloon joint them, or you take the 1080 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 5: Bell if you go to these places that are monumental. 1081 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 5: Oapland is the where the Black Panthers started, you know, 1082 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 1083 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 3: We got a swag about it. It's something about Oakland. 1084 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not saying it because I'm from there. 1085 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 3: It's the truth, you know. It's almost like a forgotten 1086 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: city in a sense, because it's like. 1087 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 4: We hear New York, we hear Miamila, Atlanta, nobody exactly exactly. 1088 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 5: And what's happening now is is that we didn't see 1089 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 5: the beauty in it until it was too late. Cities 1090 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 5: like that, cities like ours, we did not understand what 1091 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 5: it was because we got a beautiful transit system. You 1092 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 5: go to the bay, you can do you dock your boats, 1093 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 5: you go up the hill, you could ride your horses, 1094 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 5: like all these things. 1095 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 3: Cities don't have that. You go to some cities and 1096 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 3: they barely got a bank, you know what I mean. 1097 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 5: But we got all the stuff that people would need 1098 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 5: to thrive. And we were just you know, nobody didn't 1099 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 5: we as kids or as the adults. 1100 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 3: We were just living. 1101 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 5: But now these people got a hold of it and 1102 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 5: they're like, Wow, what's the best way to get them 1103 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 5: out so we can move in? All right, Let's give 1104 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 5: them some money first, So cash your keys. You can't 1105 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 5: you're barely making ends meet. The schools are being shut down, 1106 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 5: so then they people got to like bust their kids out. 1107 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 5: Schools are literally being shut down for whatever reasons, whether 1108 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 5: it doesn't meat cold or their kids aren't hitting. 1109 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 3: The numbers to shut them down. 1110 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 5: They're like, well, this school isn't producing right, so now 1111 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,720 Speaker 5: you piling kids into one school? 1112 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 3: Are you sending them off? So we say, hey, listen, 1113 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 3: we'll give you. I'm just throwing numbers one hundred thousand dollars. 1114 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 5: They're thinking, hell, I can move to Tracy or stopped him, 1115 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 5: tack him in on and be good. That's a down 1116 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 5: payment and whatever, because I can't afford to live here, 1117 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 5: so instead of holding on And that's what you know. 1118 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 5: That's one of the character of Chants in the series. 1119 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 5: That's where his heart breaks because here he is he 1120 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 5: has to leave Oakland and Miltil why because of this 1121 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 5: whole thing. 1122 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 3: But he ends up in Miami and he starts to 1123 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 3: do real estate and. 1124 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 5: He's like winning at real estate, like winning, but here 1125 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 5: he is thriving over here, but not looking back at 1126 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 5: the city that made him. 1127 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 3: So what happens is his younger. 1128 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 5: Sister calls him and it's a big thing happening where 1129 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 5: he's like, you gotta come back, you have to come back. 1130 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 3: When he comes back, he's. 1131 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 5: Thinking he's dealing with one thing, but his sister is sick, 1132 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 5: the families falling apart, the city's falling apart, they're closing 1133 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 5: his high school. And then the reason he left in 1134 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 5: the first place, staying in righting space. 1135 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. So all these things start. 1136 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 5: To happen and you realize that, like, hey, Oakland is 1137 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 5: just like everywhere else, except this is a place that 1138 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 5: we should have put up a little bit more. 1139 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 3: One of our hans, like, come on, look at the 1140 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 3: people that's coming out of there. You know what I mean. 1141 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 3: It is we didn't just pop up. 1142 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 5: But when you get told that you're ugly or wrong 1143 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 5: for so long, you start to believe it. Like I 1144 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 5: love the black hole, But when you think about it, 1145 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 5: it comes from a place of if you don't give 1146 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 5: it to me, I'll take it, And I dare you 1147 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 5: say something? 1148 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 3: Read right, I don't care if I lost or not. 1149 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 3: I bet y'all will be as outside. That's our roll. 1150 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 5: So it's good it comes from we. You know, they 1151 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 5: say the diamond's made from pressure, you know. So it's like, 1152 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 5: I feel like we're all diners, but not of some 1153 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 5: some people just didn't have that pressure to make them 1154 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 5: what they are. And now that we see that we 1155 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 5: can be people are standing up and open. People are like, yo, 1156 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 5: whoever can each one teach one? And now that's I 1157 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 5: was like, you know what, I'm gonna do something and 1158 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put my blessed and tears into it. 1159 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 3: I got to give back to the city that gave 1160 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 3: to me. 1161 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 2: So it's interesting you said that too, because so, like 1162 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 2: I remember Jim Jones right had said a while ago 1163 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 2: in that Hall of anybody's familiar with Hall of Them, 1164 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 2: some of the open. As far as the history, everybody 1165 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 2: knows the history of hallm like that's black and. 1166 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, I mean that's you know, 1167 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 3: that's Blakes and h all of that. It's a history. 1168 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 3: W and if you if so, Hallam has had a 1169 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 3: very rich history. 1170 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 2: And then the eighties when the crack academic hit, Hallam 1171 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: was just rashed, torn part right, torn apart, terrible in 1172 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: the alpha go to Hall of Them. 1173 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 3: It's it's different. It's different. 1174 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 2: You see people with the Yorkis and they don't look 1175 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 2: like us, Like a lot of people don't look like us. 1176 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 3: So with I hurt him. He was on the radio. 1177 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 2: He was saying that, you know when a lot of 1178 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 2: the hustlers and guys that was really getting money, and 1179 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 2: he was like, you know, back in the duge, you 1180 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 2: could have wanted building at all of them for like. 1181 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 3: A dollar and he was given. They was giving properties away, but. 1182 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 2: They wasn't ignoring it, like that they were buying champagne 1183 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 2: clubs and all that. He was like, looking back on 1184 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 2: it now, he and his friends and in other people 1185 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 2: that he was around that. 1186 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 3: He saw that was on a higher level than him. 1187 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 2: They could have really brought blocks like brownstones are hall 1188 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm going for two million, four point. 1189 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 3: Five million right now, right so it's like. 1190 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 2: Imagine if you want a whole block back then, how 1191 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 2: much it's worth now? 1192 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 3: So the same thing. That's why you know, bring what 1193 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 3: you're doing now, because it's like at some. 1194 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 2: Point we have to learn, right. We saw it happening 1195 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: in DC. We saw it happened in Brooklyn, We saw 1196 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 2: it happened at Hallam. We see what's going on in 1197 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 2: a LA every year. It happening all over the country. Right, 1198 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, how do we be proactive instead 1199 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 2: of being reactive because it's one thing that's like, okay, 1200 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: look it happened. This is bad, Like I'm pushed out 1201 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 2: of my neighborhood. And that's one of the things with 1202 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 2: Nipsey Hustle. That's why we had to go to the 1203 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 2: The America Store because it's like, that's what. 1204 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 3: He was doing, Like you know what I'm saying. It 1205 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 3: was yeah, he was just buying back. 1206 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 2: He was buying his neighborhood, providing job, providing opportunities. So 1207 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 2: it's like when you see all these sports teams lead 1208 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 2: and you know, and now the town is going down 1209 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 2: and that's bringing down the value and that people are 1210 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 2: coming in, like you said, giving cash, and then it's 1211 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 2: all it's all a bigger play, right. 1212 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 3: The thing that has to happen. 1213 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 5: What I feel like is deal, we have to get 1214 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 5: this ship off our shoulder. And it's not our fault 1215 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,919 Speaker 5: because we were born and raised with nothing. 1216 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 3: I feel like, so. 1217 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 5: Whenever we get a chance to shine, we do it. 1218 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 5: And the only way sometimes to shine is to outshine 1219 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 5: another person. That's how we were raised, you know what 1220 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 5: I mean. My mom's like, don't don't let nobody do 1221 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 5: this to you, or somebody hit you, you hit them back, 1222 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 5: like this whole thing. But it came from a place 1223 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 5: of like desperation. So now that we know that we're 1224 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 5: not desperate right now, because we are doing amazingly as 1225 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 5: a as a community, as a culture, or whatever, we 1226 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 5: got to get to chip off our shoulder because if 1227 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 5: we bind together, if we bind together and stop saying like, hey, 1228 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 5: I'm the king, that don't mean both of y'all. 1229 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 3: Can you know what I mean? 1230 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 5: If we do that, people stop because you start to 1231 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 5: feel like you're not worth because of the people around you. 1232 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 5: But if that person was like, you know what, I 1233 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 5: got a little bit, here you go, Here you go too. 1234 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 5: Now we don't have to give away our homes for 1235 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 5: this casual keys, because guess what if you can hold 1236 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 5: onto this house for a year. Listen, what I'm gonna 1237 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 5: do is I'm gonna loan you this fifty. I'm a 1238 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 5: loan you this fifty. We're gonna redo it, which is 1239 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 5: gonna bring up the equity. But I want to hunt 1240 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 5: it back because now you're gonna have eight hundred thousand 1241 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 5: dollars because it's at its value now, But we don't 1242 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 5: do that. Nobody nobody's talking to people and the community's 1243 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 5: not binding together like like Jewish people or even Mexicans, 1244 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 5: like the Mexicans doing they things like I still to 1245 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 5: this day see them grinding work together together, know what 1246 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 5: I mean. And it's just one of those things that 1247 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 5: we just have to You know, I'm in too, and 1248 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 5: I'm I'm trying to be better than every day. It's 1249 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 5: an uphill battle, but it's hard to unlearn things that 1250 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 5: you've learned your whole life, even when it comes to women, 1251 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 5: even becomes to women, like you know, you you learn 1252 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 5: how to be swagged out, you learn how to do it. 1253 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 3: You know, you can't touch me. 1254 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 5: That's how my cousins raised me, like how to dress, 1255 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 5: keep your head cut, all these things, But did they 1256 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 5: really teach you how to appreciate the right woman or 1257 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 5: to talk to do whatever? 1258 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 1259 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 5: And that all is it's all in the same culture. 1260 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 5: That's why we the fastest whatever, because that's what we do. 1261 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 5: I bet you can't beat me. 1262 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1263 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 5: So now you're out there running artists. That's how we're raisable. 1264 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 5: But we need to change is now put us in finances, 1265 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 5: so then we know credit is king. Credit is king, 1266 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 5: because if we got we are me and three of 1267 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 5: my own boys got good credit, we're good. You know 1268 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 5: credit is king. Then you take that one step further. Okay, 1269 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 5: how do we take that money and apply it to something? 1270 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 5: But let's not just apply to something where. 1271 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 3: We got to be at every day. 1272 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 5: I don't want to have to just because I stopped working, 1273 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 5: My money should not stop working for me. So now 1274 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 5: I gotta if I want to go on a vacation, 1275 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 5: my money stopped. And that's what folks start winning sleep. 1276 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 5: So the ship they got residual income. That money is 1277 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 5: making money. Well to see, but I don't care if 1278 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 5: it's a laundry mat, I don't care. If it's vending machines, 1279 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 5: I don't care. If you want to get an extra 1280 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 5: five hundred dollars a month, you break that down twelve times. 1281 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,439 Speaker 3: Fot you all right? 1282 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 2: Gordon Geko one of the most legendary characters in movie history. 1283 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 2: As one of the most legendary lines in movie history, 1284 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 2: he says money never sleeps there that familiar that's ball 1285 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 2: Street and Gordon getto is the start. If you haven't 1286 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 2: watched Ball Street. You doing yourself get service? Yes, but 1287 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 2: it got such a short line. But it's if you 1288 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 2: really think. He's like, money never sleeps. If you really 1289 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: understand money, then you understand it never sleeps. 1290 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 3: Like that's the key you have to make. 1291 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: I remember Warren Buffet said something that he said, if 1292 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 2: you can't find out how to make money. 1293 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 3: While you're sleep, you're gonna work t your dot. And 1294 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 3: that's fact. That's a fact. And that's a fact man, 1295 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 3: And that's in that's and that's where we I feel 1296 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 3: like they don't teach you. 1297 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 5: They don't teach anybody that because it wasn't just black 1298 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 5: people at my schools, white negs against everybody else. But 1299 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 5: that was the achilles hell. Like I just start caring 1300 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,439 Speaker 5: about credit five years ago. I was like, well, shit 1301 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 5: that it's messed up already. I don't care about y'all, 1302 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But that's just not the 1303 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 5: way to go. And once you start understanding that you 1304 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 5: don't need a bunch of money to do the little things, 1305 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Just just the little things, 1306 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 5: and then get a good group of guys around you, like, 1307 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 5: stop stop being selfish, stop being like this, me, me, me, 1308 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 5: because you'll never get ahead like that just one person, 1309 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 5: Like two brains is better than one, three billions is 1310 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 5: better than two. 1311 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 3: And you get a good group of distinguished gentlemen. 1312 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 5: Oh it's a rap because these you can help my 1313 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 5: vision in so many ways that I don't know. And 1314 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 5: then from that the finances get better. When finances get better, 1315 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 5: you start living good. When you start living good, you 1316 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 5: start being good to other people. Because I can't give 1317 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 5: you a bottle half. I just can't. 1318 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 3: Like for me, other people probably can, but for me, 1319 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 3: if it's. 1320 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 5: Like if I'm starving, I feel like I can't help you. 1321 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 5: So I need to make sure that I'm doing my 1322 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 5: part to better myself because if I'm eating, then you're eating. 1323 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 3: But everybody has to be on that same wavelength, you 1324 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. That's all like when y'all said 1325 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 3: y'all doing what y'all was doing, I was like, I'm wanting. 1326 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 5: I'm wanting, like whatever I can do to help, because 1327 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 5: now I'm seeing you know, your jay z, your meat meals, 1328 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 5: and everybody's like on this way. 1329 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 3: And I don't be on waves, but if I'm gonna 1330 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 3: be on any way, that I'm gonna jump on. 1331 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 5: It's gonna be the one that's the movement is happening 1332 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 5: right now because I see all this stuff that's happening 1333 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 5: and housing that everybody know about, all these other people 1334 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 5: that they have alocasts and all this things, and they 1335 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 5: are putting that force and this happened to these people 1336 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 5: and it was wrong. We was enslaved for how long? 1337 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 5: And everybody still know and it's just okay, everybody knows 1338 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 5: about it. Everybody knows the struggle, but people aren't standing 1339 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 5: up this because we don't stand up for ourselves. 1340 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 3: Eighty percent of the NBA and NFL is like black. 1341 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 3: That's what happened. The entertainers come. 1342 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 5: On, man, They're like, I don't know the numbers per se, 1343 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 5: but I know every time I turn around, everybody is following. 1344 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 3: The trends and the trends as you know what I mean. 1345 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 3: So I think that once we wants to tie turning, 1346 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 3: and it's not about. 1347 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 5: I don't want to make it a black, white or 1348 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 5: whatever thing. It's just about I don't want my son 1349 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 5: or my daughter or whoever else to grow up and 1350 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 5: have to feel the way I felt when I watched 1351 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 5: Black panther, you should have black is beautiful, or Mexican 1352 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 5: is beautiful, or whatever is beautiful, just because it's beautiful, 1353 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 5: damn the color. Believe in what you believe in, Like 1354 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 5: we we got a Baptist. We don't know our history. 1355 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 5: Everybody else to go back, you know, you see everybody 1356 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 5: else they got they say, still there. And that's where 1357 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 5: I feel like finance starts at that because once we 1358 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 5: start saying, hey, this is how. 1359 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 3: You when you got money. Money. 1360 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 5: Money rules the world, and don't think it's a bad thing, 1361 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 5: but it allows you to do what seemore. So instead 1362 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 5: of people want to get rims, work to get rims 1363 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 5: over summer, now they're like, yo, I want to go sailing. Well, 1364 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 5: how because my daddy to sail or whatever. That's what 1365 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 5: people get over because the money allows the seymore and 1366 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 5: you see more on your brain expends. 1367 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 3: If your brain expand, actually the base that's like a 1368 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 3: real life expo. You don't get out, you don't get 1369 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 3: out of you don't get out of that. When you 1370 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 3: don't get out of that. 1371 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 2: City, you think you're doing it, you think you doing 1372 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 2: They also come down to self esteem too, because it's like, okay, 1373 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 2: if you really think about it. 1374 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 3: You buying all these things is really for insecurity. 1375 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 2: That's what you don't feel great about yourself, So you 1376 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 2: have to buy the rains on your car and all that. 1377 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 3: No shames anybody do that. But if you. 1378 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 2: Really are secure, you don't need to buy that, right 1379 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 2: You rather buy a home. 1380 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 3: You got to buy investment, set your kids up. 1381 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 2: I see some of the richest people in New York 1382 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 2: and they driving Nissans like you wouldn't know they have 1383 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 2: money because that's not their own right. And that's something 1384 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 2: that I think we as a culture, we still have 1385 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 2: to get over that because we, like you said, we've 1386 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 2: never had anything right. 1387 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 3: So now it's like when it's when we get anything, 1388 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 3: we have. 1389 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 5: To so we have everything, and we have to have 1390 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 5: a sense of valid and if I'm going to do it, 1391 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 5: if you all want to do those things, don't work 1392 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,439 Speaker 5: for those things. Have that revenue that I was talking about, 1393 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 5: make you the money, don't don't sit around and bust 1394 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 5: your ass, and you got you got to know yourself 1395 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 5: worth like you just got to. I just knew and 1396 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 5: I got played many times. Like I used to be 1397 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 5: a what's it calling it? 1398 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 3: What's it called? That when people you are. 1399 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 5: It was for a tequila company where you just want 1400 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 5: to ambassador, ambassador bro ambassador, I hatter beet a owner. 1401 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm selling this tequila 1402 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 5: like it's mine. I opened up over three hundred counts 1403 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 5: from open and said, San Diego, you know what I'm saying. 1404 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 3: I set up. I set up. 1405 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 5: I set up the events where the guy sold his 1406 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 5: company to the dude for over three hundred million dollars. 1407 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 3: I set up the event. 1408 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 5: But guess what I got that same two thousand dollars 1409 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 5: that he told me I WoT. 1410 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,919 Speaker 3: Get upset up the thing. You gotta know your work, 1411 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 3: and you know your work. 1412 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 5: Get him mentor get him mentor right now if you want, 1413 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 5: if you want my best advice, get a mentor. Beg 1414 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 5: for a mentor. Get a mentor now. Not your mom, 1415 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 5: not your daddy, not your cousins. I don't care how 1416 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:03,919 Speaker 5: smart they are. 1417 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 3: Get a mentor outside of your group, cause I'm telling. 1418 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 5: You a mentor is like you being blind and they 1419 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 5: that damn walking stick. They're not there to help you walk. 1420 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 5: They're just trying to guide you a little bit more 1421 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 5: telling you get them INNTO. 1422 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 3: That's what that'd be. That's a mental That's part of 1423 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 3: what we actually do in New York. 1424 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 4: Like we have a mentorship program where we take kids 1425 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 4: who have aspirations to be an actor or be an 1426 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 4: attorney or be a doctor, and we put them in 1427 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,919 Speaker 4: those fields and they get to intern for six weeks 1428 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 4: to see what it's like. 1429 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 3: They get to pick the brain figure out if his career. 1430 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 3: Like you were sality, somebody wanted to work. This kid 1431 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 3: didn't even want to work in finance. 1432 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 4: But I saw them selling the waters every day outside 1433 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 4: of shopping center for a dollar, every single day, making 1434 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 4: thirty dollars going back to the store buying in for 1435 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 4: cheap selling them. And I was like, what do you 1436 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,479 Speaker 4: want to You wanted to play in the NBA. 1437 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 3: And I'm like, nah, you have a natural instinct. You're 1438 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 3: a hustle. Like I can see it. 1439 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 4: First thing I did, I'll say, you shot, I got 1440 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 4: this kid I need to work with because I know 1441 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 4: he's working in finance. 1442 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,439 Speaker 3: This kid has a hustle. He just has to direct way. Right. 1443 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 3: So that's the let said, because that's ask what we do. Yep, 1444 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 3: that's for me, that's big. 1445 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,919 Speaker 5: That's big because when my acting career really started taking off, 1446 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 5: I met the right coach. Like I was taught the 1447 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 5: wrong way. So me and him, but it ends for 1448 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 5: so long because I had learned the wrong way for 1449 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 5: so long that when he was trying to teach me 1450 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 5: the right way, I'm arguing with him. You know what 1451 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm already I'm from Oakland, like Nigga. I 1452 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 5: just spent Nigga, I spent five thousand dollars on these classes. 1453 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 5: You can't tell me that that's wrong, but it was, 1454 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? And then I met him 1455 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 5: and he just changed my whole perception. I couldn't get 1456 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,160 Speaker 5: to emotion because they used to tell me like, hey, 1457 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 5: did your did your dog die? 1458 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 3: Or did your girlfriend rek up with you? 1459 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 5: So I'm in this scene thinking about my dead dog 1460 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 5: when I should really just connect with the character. You 1461 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 5: see what I'm saying. And it was it was it 1462 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 5: was stuff like that, I smell here all day, but 1463 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 5: that that happens, and it has happened to. 1464 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 3: Me throughout my life, where I feel. 1465 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 5: Like people will assume just because I'm always smiling, I'm 1466 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 5: always happy, because you ain't gonna never ever under dodge 1467 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 5: green Earth. 1468 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 3: See me just taking an l like that. I'm a 1469 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 3: born fighter. You know. My mom had been sixteen. 1470 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 5: My dad came from a fan. Everything was broken. But 1471 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 5: if they can do it together, what excuse do I have? 1472 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 5: I got two eyes, all my body parts work like. 1473 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 5: Come on, man, The people out here that cannot do 1474 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 5: what I can do, not because I'm better than just 1475 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 5: because they physically can't. Once you start appreciating shit like that, 1476 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 5: it just changes. It just changes the way you're thinking. 1477 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 5: It's not an easy thing to do. You gotta work 1478 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 5: at it, but. 1479 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 3: You gotta know. You just gotta I don't know how, 1480 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 3: but you just gotta know. Because people just been. 1481 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 5: Winning for way too long just because it's been given 1482 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 5: to them, and we don't have that kind of opportunity 1483 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 5: just to be giving that old money, that old money 1484 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 5: that Johnson and Johnson, Johnson and Johnson been around. But 1485 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 5: ever you know these stone companies, You see that little 1486 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 5: toilet you see to say it's colder, All these things 1487 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 5: that you take for absolutely rented. 1488 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 3: That is old old money, this whatever. 1489 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that you said with kids, 1490 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 2: that we don't have mentors a lot of times, so 1491 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 2: we make a lot of mistakes because we just figured 1492 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 2: it out as we go, Like we just walked through 1493 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 2: my field with no map, so it's like we might 1494 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 2: get blown up here. 1495 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 3: We don't have no tactical skills. You walking through, you're 1496 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 3: you're you're destined to get your neck. It's survivable. Yeah, 1497 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 3: And it's like if somebody could have. 1498 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 4: Just told us these things, and that's it takes a 1499 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 4: lot of It takes a lot of like some questioning, 1500 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 4: and you got. 1501 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 3: To check their ego, like, you know, I don't know 1502 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 3: his help me. You don't say to be humble. 1503 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 5: You have to be humble because if you don't, it's 1504 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 5: a rap. People are not going people are not going 1505 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 5: to want to help you. And I feel like for 1506 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 5: a long time maybe I was that guy like I 1507 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 5: use my energy for bad, you know, like because it 1508 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 5: is it's an energy. And I'm okay with saying the 1509 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 5: first I was embarrassing. I don't want to say this 1510 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 5: or that, but I'm commonly saying my energy is my superpower. 1511 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 3: I spit on you even don't worry, but. 1512 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 5: No, but I'm saying that is my superpower. And once 1513 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 5: you figure out what your superpower is, let that Shane. 1514 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 5: Let it be out there. Put it out to the world. Man, 1515 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 5: open your chest out. Let people know that it's okay 1516 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 5: to love, it's okay to hurt. All this stiff is 1517 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,959 Speaker 5: okay for man. But when you're coming up, you're scared. 1518 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 5: You put that hand out that they won't put it 1519 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 5: back out, and now that they didn't, you're embarrassing. So 1520 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 5: I gotta jab you all. We gotta when it's not 1521 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 5: it's okay. If he said no, what she's saying no, 1522 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,479 Speaker 5: Now I gotta try another thing. But we don't learn 1523 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 5: that it's embarrassing to be shut down. 1524 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 1525 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 5: I've been shut down for fifteen years, So now I 1526 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 5: could honestly say I'm winning. You know, I got property, 1527 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 5: I got a great job, my career is flourishing. 1528 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 3: I feel good in my heart. 1529 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 5: I know what I want to do, I know the 1530 01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 5: people I want to do it with, and I'm okay 1531 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 5: with assets. 1532 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 3: But help. Every time I talk to old people, every 1533 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 3: chance I get. 1534 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 2: Every day, I want to ask something bombed the last 1535 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 2: thing before we wrap up because. 1536 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 3: We didn't really fully go into it. 1537 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 2: But they say that average mayor has seven streams of income, 1538 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 2: right and being in Hollyware. 1539 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 3: You know, it's really tough. As far as you might 1540 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 3: have a gig, you might not have a gig for 1541 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 3: eighteen months. 1542 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 2: Your series might get picked up, but then it might 1543 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 2: get dropped. 1544 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 3: So it's important we try to achieve entrepreneurship. 1545 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 2: So can you just talk about how that has helped 1546 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 2: you as far as your your multiple streams of income, 1547 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 2: couse your reality. 1548 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 3: I mean, you have a couple of different things going 1549 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 3: on right and absolutely. 1550 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 5: The thing but the thing I believe that you have 1551 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,839 Speaker 5: to do is is, no matter what, find what you're good. 1552 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 3: At and see if you can turn that into a 1553 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 3: monetary thing. You know what I mean. Find what you're 1554 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:47,680 Speaker 3: good at. It may not be. 1555 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 5: Directly directly in the lane that you want to be in, 1556 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 5: but I'm telling you now what the Internet and how 1557 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,680 Speaker 5: things are going, there are people if you are and 1558 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 5: you gotta you do. Got to know if you are 1559 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 5: professionalized this because so many people live in this fantasy 1560 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 5: world and they're robbing people like you don't know what 1561 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 5: you're doing. Find something that you love doing and you 1562 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 5: can actually monetize that, you know what I mean? Because 1563 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 5: people like if you love cooking, you can start doing 1564 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 5: mial press for people. 1565 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1566 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 5: If you love reading, hey, maybe you can start doing 1567 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 5: readings for people out of play or put the kids. 1568 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 3: Find something that you. 1569 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 5: Love doing, because it'll turn over into something else because 1570 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 5: while you're reading those books to kids, you could. 1571 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 3: Actually record it. Need out your own audio books. If 1572 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 3: you tell. 1573 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 5: Stories like there's just things that whatever you're good at, 1574 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,680 Speaker 5: there's something out there, there's a need because there's a 1575 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 5: group of people that aren't motivated the way we. 1576 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 3: Are, just because what they don't see what we see. 1577 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 5: I get to see these cars, I get to see 1578 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 5: this good but I get to see everything that I 1579 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 5: think I can attain with somebody in maybe Louisiana or 1580 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 5: Kentucky doesn't have the same motivation because they just don't 1581 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 5: see it. So now, with all these ways of making money, 1582 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 5: I believe if you are professionally on something, find a 1583 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 5: way to do that. Secondly, you gotta own something like 1584 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 5: I don't care how you do it or what it is. 1585 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 5: You got to own it because the name of the 1586 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 5: game is to have somebody owe you. If you owe me, 1587 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 5: I'll never be broke, you know what I mean? And 1588 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 5: those is the way it goes like, you gotta find 1589 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,679 Speaker 5: out how to do it. You got to figure out 1590 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 5: how to make it where somebody has to pay me, 1591 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 5: has to pay me. 1592 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 3: That's what. That's what. That's what the condo does. Those 1593 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 3: people have to pay me. They have to pay me. 1594 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 5: And I don't have to go over to that house. 1595 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 5: I don't got to do nothing. You signed that contract. 1596 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 5: I got all my information. That money comes to me 1597 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,680 Speaker 5: no matter what, every month, you know what I mean. 1598 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 5: Then secondly, find that resist your income. You gotta find 1599 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 5: something which will come with a mentor. But like when 1600 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 5: I was just starting out, I didn't own the I 1601 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 5: didn't own the vendor machines, but he made he gave 1602 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 5: me like thirty percent of them, and he was like, 1603 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 5: just I need you help, you know, stack them up, 1604 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 5: put the stuff in there or whatnot. That was a 1605 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 5: residual income for me because my time was my own. 1606 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. When you've gotta be at 1607 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 5: a job at a certain time and you gotta do this, 1608 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 5: that's when things get sticky. Or if you can control 1609 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,600 Speaker 5: your own time, that's what's dope. 1610 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could control my own time. So he was like, 1611 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 3: as long as it's full. I don't care. So I 1612 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 3: could go at five in the morning or I. 1613 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 5: Go to night before. However I wanted to do it, 1614 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 5: I could do it. And then that was a residual 1615 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 5: income that will come to me no matter what. And then, last, 1616 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 5: but not least, study the craft. Man, study the craft 1617 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 5: because it's too many. It's too many shooters out here. 1618 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 5: Like it's like I'm telling you this, I mean they're 1619 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 5: out here, like it's people out here. 1620 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 3: It's people out here just bleeding it. They're bleeding. 1621 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 5: I don't care if you're talking about football, basketball, acting, 1622 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 5: being a doctor, I don't care. Because it's becoming very 1623 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 5: hard to live in America. It's getting expensive, period. So 1624 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,599 Speaker 5: if you're trying to win the right way, you gotta 1625 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 5: be a bet. You got to be amongst the best. 1626 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 5: You gotta be the best. So if you're not in 1627 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 5: the industry to be the best or to achieve at 1628 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 5: your highest goal, you might as well just be it 1629 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,640 Speaker 5: because it's not gonna work. It's just not gonna work 1630 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 5: with every unless you're lucky. But then look at what 1631 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 5: I got. 1632 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 3: People. 1633 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 5: I remember back in the day where I was like 1634 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 5: looking all these people. I was telling one of my homeboys, 1635 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 5: because he's not under me, but he's you know, looking 1636 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 5: up to me now. And I was like the best 1637 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 5: place to be at for a while I was on 1638 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 5: the bench. He's like, what, I don't want to send 1639 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,560 Speaker 5: them the bench. I said no, because while I was 1640 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 5: sitting on the bench, I saw all of the sticks 1641 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 5: everybody else made watching. I saw him go up, I 1642 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 5: saw him come down. I see him stay right in 1643 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 5: the middle. I said, they just give up all together. 1644 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 5: He should have did this, one did that. I saw everything. 1645 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 5: Now I'm coach with me, and you got no excuse. 1646 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 5: You got no excuse because the worst thing ever to 1647 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 5: be put in the game and you ain't ready. 1648 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 3: That's power for me. 1649 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 2: We want we want to thank you for coming on 1650 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,640 Speaker 2: appreciate in short notice too. And that's when that's what 1651 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 2: we always say, you know, it's it's just encouraging to 1652 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 2: see people going out of that way to give up 1653 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:11,920 Speaker 2: the game. 1654 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,680 Speaker 3: That's kind of been the formula of our show. We 1655 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 3: break people on and then they're giving up information. This 1656 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 3: this is a true story. 1657 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 2: Like even when you said you have to go, I 1658 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 2: think you're working costcos and like you know that this 1659 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 2: is real. 1660 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 3: This is real life. 1661 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 2: We're not gonna paint a picture for you of everything 1662 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 2: is beauty and roses. 1663 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that. 1664 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,639 Speaker 2: You gotta stay down till you come up, and even 1665 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 2: when you do come up, you might have to take 1666 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,840 Speaker 2: a step back right a minus setback for it makes 1667 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 2: you comeback. So this is this is when we put 1668 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 2: top my entrepreneurship investing business. We're gonna tell you the 1669 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 2: real I let you go on YouTube a lot of 1670 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 2: these things. 1671 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 3: It's like, this is how. 1672 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,360 Speaker 2: You make a million dollars or one month without doing 1673 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 2: any words with working like Nah, it doesn't work like that. 1674 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You gotta put the work in. 1675 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,679 Speaker 3: So thank you for coming to closing. Before we close 1676 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 3: with just two things. Too much. 1677 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 5: As I live by the great, all become greater if 1678 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 5: they here to be the greatest. And if you always 1679 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,640 Speaker 5: do what you've done, you'll always get what you got. 1680 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 5: That's that's that's how I wrong. Because I know I'm great, 1681 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 5: that's cool. But if you want to be greater, you 1682 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 5: gotta dare to be the greatest. 1683 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,639 Speaker 3: Because if you be the greatest, I mean, that's that's long. 1684 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,759 Speaker 5: But if you dare to try, you'll be greater for sure. 1685 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 5: And if you always do what you've done, you always 1686 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,679 Speaker 5: gonna get what you got. You stay in your language, 1687 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 5: you got to go a little faster a little bit. 1688 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,640 Speaker 2: Can you tell the people how to reach you on 1689 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 2: social media if you're on any project that you. 1690 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 3: Got, finding that you got coming out, like you know 1691 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 3: what I mean, if you if you just want to 1692 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 3: stay in contact. 1693 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 5: Through uh you know with my work, IMDb, the Internet 1694 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 5: Movie Database, just Romeo Brown on Instagram on Romeo Brown 1695 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 5: with an underscore. 1696 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 3: Don't be uh shocked by my Twitter followers. Like I 1697 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 3: told you, I was a little shot with that because social. 1698 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 5: Media for me was a little bit more to to 1699 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:57,600 Speaker 5: public for me, you know what I mean. I'm a 1700 01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 5: great intimate person and like I said, as a man, 1701 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 5: I'm still. 1702 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 3: Try to trying to be okay with struggling, like I. 1703 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 5: Just now start winning. So when you think are se 1704 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 5: are assumed that people are winning. As a man, it's 1705 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 5: really hard to say that, you know, I'm not being 1706 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 5: where I want to be in life, or to say, 1707 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,080 Speaker 5: you know what, I cry and I didn't get this job, 1708 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 5: or you know what, that girl hurt me, or I 1709 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 5: really wanted this and it's hard to do those things 1710 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 5: when you you're not comfortable in your own skin. But 1711 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 5: now I am, so you know, I'm ready to open 1712 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 5: up those avenues because when you see me, you're gonna 1713 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 5: get it all like because I'm not always winning, but 1714 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:32,599 Speaker 5: I'm gonna smile through the pain. 1715 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,600 Speaker 4: So that's that's I just want to thank you a 1716 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 4: game of being vulnerable and being transparent with everything because 1717 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 4: we don't see that right Like you said, we went 1718 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 4: to it to be tough and with tols like quite 1719 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 4: bad because like yeah, as a man with growth, maturity. 1720 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 3: Comes over head, it becomes honesty. 1721 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,559 Speaker 4: And one of the things that you said is like 1722 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 4: looking back, so like we do get ahead and we 1723 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,320 Speaker 4: get to certain places with the kids to look bad 1724 01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,679 Speaker 4: because there is somebody that we can grab a hand. 1725 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,920 Speaker 3: And take longer journey with us. That's important too. Yeah. Man, 1726 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 3: I'm happy. Man, I'm happy that even. 1727 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 5: Like I hope this gets album, somebody is it to 1728 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 5: push them forward because life it's a very versus thing man, 1729 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 5: And you know tomorrow's I promised. So if you can 1730 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:18,479 Speaker 5: Lenjit hit somebody else, it's like like a not a marathon, 1731 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 5: it's like a reheater race, you know, as well as 1732 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,720 Speaker 5: you're just hand it off, handed off, And if if 1733 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 5: I'm not the one to get where I want to get, 1734 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 5: I gotta give it to another kid that because it 1735 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 5: took me all this long to get this way because 1736 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,600 Speaker 5: nobody handed me anything like I put my head so 1737 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 5: many times. 1738 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 3: My head should be like this. But if I can 1739 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 3: make it with this other kid. 1740 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 5: Can and he get to where I thought I could, 1741 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 5: then I still got to feel hold in my heart 1742 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 5: and know why I didn't. So now I'm just about 1743 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 5: trying to pass that information and if there's anything I 1744 01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 5: can do to help reach out. 1745 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 3: If I don't get right back to you, I will try. 1746 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 3: But that's what it's about, man, because we can't focus 1747 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 3: on us right here right now. 1748 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 5: We gotta be like that mind frame of like our 1749 01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,679 Speaker 5: kids are our kids kids. 1750 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 4: Because that's where it's at right now. For your last name, 1751 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 4: we said it with pop right Paton, Yeah yeah, so 1752 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,440 Speaker 4: Patreon again. It is a way to support the podcast 1753 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 4: so that we can do more things like this. We 1754 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,840 Speaker 4: can we can travel and spread the word and get 1755 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 4: the word and get gained from people in different places. 1756 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,800 Speaker 3: So shout out to your home and shout out to 1757 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 3: our follows. We're getting some new followers. 1758 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 4: Uh, Savannah, U T Cody who's been with us, Terry 1759 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 4: who's actually out he's from Oakland. 1760 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, y Terry, and Brandon who's our new members. 1761 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 3: So shout out to him. 1762 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 1: Uh. 1763 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 4: You know, we've been having video chats with him and 1764 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 4: giving them some game and having more indirect uh conversations 1765 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 4: with them to help them. And they they're Trump pursuits, 1766 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,759 Speaker 4: So shout out to them and continue supporting Patreon against 1767 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:46,759 Speaker 4: that product they pay program. 1768 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 3: So the more you support, the more we can do. Yeah, 1769 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 3: everything that we said we're gonna do so far we've done. 1770 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 2: And one of the things that we said what he's 1771 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,200 Speaker 2: going to do is come to different cities, right and 1772 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 2: highlight people in the cities that's doing their thing. 1773 01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,560 Speaker 3: And this is a perfect example of that. 1774 01:17:59,720 --> 01:17:59,800 Speaker 4: Right. 1775 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,360 Speaker 2: It's so like I said, I always say, we're gonna 1776 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 2: give you the information for free, but if you would 1777 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,479 Speaker 2: like to financially support the podcast, Patreon is and the 1778 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 2: avenue to do that. 1779 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 3: And also our merch our merchan is doing well. 1780 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 2: And once again, we make statements with the clothes that 1781 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 2: we wear, so it's important to be mindful of what 1782 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 2: we wear. So you know, we have shirts like Austen 1783 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 2: for your last name, Assets over Liability, so the merch 1784 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 2: can be on It can be found on our website, 1785 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 2: which is early leasha dot com. 1786 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 3: And before we leave, I have a book tip and 1787 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:29,720 Speaker 3: that I always give. 1788 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 2: So Multiple streams of Income was one of the first 1789 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 2: books that I've read in finance. 1790 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 3: I think I was like eighteen nineteen years old. 1791 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 2: I forget the author's name, but if you google Multiple 1792 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 2: streams of Income, it will come up and it's a 1793 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 2: very good book. We talk about muti streams of income 1794 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,920 Speaker 2: during this interview, and that's one thing that I encourage people. 1795 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 2: You cannot survive off of just one job. 1796 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:52,759 Speaker 3: Even if you're an entrepreneur. 1797 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 2: You can't just rely on because anything can happened, your 1798 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:59,560 Speaker 2: business can fall, but you have to have other avenues 1799 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 2: to pull on. So I strongly encourage anybody, everybody to 1800 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 2: check out that book. 1801 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 5: And also audio books are big, like we gotta stop, 1802 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 5: you gotta stop it all, like you gotta you gotta go, 1803 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,519 Speaker 5: you gotta stop all this noise is going into your head. 1804 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,639 Speaker 5: If you listen into music at home, do you listen 1805 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 5: to music at the gym? Do you listen to music 1806 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 5: in the car, you're not ever feeding your brain. Like 1807 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 5: these audiobooks have changed my life in the car, I 1808 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,720 Speaker 5: don't listen to nothing else but audio books because they're 1809 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 5: feeding my brain constantly, constantly, constantly, because this music, Man, 1810 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,720 Speaker 5: you gotta be careful your brain is. Your brain is 1811 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 5: just this this machine. It's picking up even when you're not. 1812 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 5: So you've got to start finding ways for it to 1813 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 5: learn when you're not trying to learn. And audio books 1814 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 5: is one of the main ways that I've done that. 1815 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,760 Speaker 5: So that's telling this auto audiobooks. Anything you think about 1816 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 5: you want to know, grab yourself an audiobook and put 1817 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:50,639 Speaker 5: it in that that that dead space. 1818 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 3: Now see what happens. 1819 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 2: That's a fact Episode fourteen you How to Teach You 1820 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 2: Valencia owner she let the cat out the bag a 1821 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 2: book tip, but I don't actually read. Why actually get 1822 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,639 Speaker 2: feed the book that I just told you. But almost 1823 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,960 Speaker 2: ninety percent of everything that I consume right now is audio. 1824 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 2: So audio book I'm a huge I was on audio 1825 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 2: book and it was seas I got so I've been 1826 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 2: I've been. But you know, whatever, you know, how else 1827 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 2: you can learn audio podcast? Your podcast is on Apple. 1828 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 2: We're all Spotify were on audio YouTube also but audio 1829 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 2: as well, So yes, when you're working out, when you're driving, 1830 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:28,559 Speaker 2: everybody's in your car. 1831 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 3: Check it out, check it out, check it out. So yes, 1832 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 3: once again, thank you guys for rocking with us, and 1833 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:36,639 Speaker 3: we'll see you next week please,