1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: Obviously, if you're the Lion, is just a tough loss. 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: You don't want to lose that game, especially when you 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: had that opening drive. You're feeling good about yourself, had 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: a nice cute little trick play. They called back somehow. 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: The Chiefs always get those kind of calls. But that's 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: neither here nor there. 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 4: There you go, typical lines home or like. 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: Everybody had been saying that about the Chiefs for the 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: last two three years. No, but it was it was 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: less about them to me and about the Chiefs and 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: specifically what I've kind of been saying for half full 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: of weeks ever since they beat the Ravens, when I said, man, 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: their offense is about to get going. We had been 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: complaining about the Chiefs offense for the last two seasons, 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: justifiably so they have been historic lows for Patrick Mahomes 23 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: for the team. 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: Somehow. 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: They obviously got to the Super Bowl a couple of times, 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: one to one, and then lost last year, so we 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: kind of outweighed how they had performed. But I started 28 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: to see, man, when they start getting pieces back, when guys, 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: they've also picked up a couple of nice pieces, and 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is starting to look like Patrick Mahomes to 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: the tune Rob that he is doing things that we 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: haven't seen him do in quite some time. I'm talking 33 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: about numbers that he really hasn't even done since twenty eighteen. 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: You look at some of these right now, Patrick Mahomes 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: is averaging two hundred and eighty two passing yards over 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: the last three weeks, seventy percent completions, thirty two yards 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: per rushing per game, ten total touchdowns, one interception they're averaging. 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: And then he has the best mark of since twenty 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: eighteen when it comes to their almost averaging three points 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: per drive. So that's to me the takeaway, how scary 41 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: the Chiefs are about to be and we're gonna look 42 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: up and you me, Rogie, Lijah and the whole crew 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 3: being worried Santa Clara or wherever up in the Bay, 44 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: and it's gonna be the Chiefs representing the AFC in 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl again. And they've somehow will have pulled 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: it off again when none of us saw it coming. 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: When we thought there would be a down year. 48 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: We thought that Josh Allen MVP would be able to do, 49 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: when we thought Lamar Jackson will be able to come 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: back and bounce back. Not the case. And the Chiefs 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: to me are scary. And they're a week away from 52 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: Rashid Rice, which is only gonna make their three and three. Absolutely, 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: I have no worries about the Chiefs. So three and 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: three that's the walk away from me. I said, oh gosh, 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: they're back. I thought they would be. I said it 56 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, and each. 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: Week so much so that you picked the Ravens, right. 58 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Picked the Ravens if you thought that, if you thought no, 59 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: but if you thought they were going to be back 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: this year. 61 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: I picked the Ravens in the offseason. 62 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: No, I know, But if you thought they were going 63 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: to be back this year, why wouldn't you have picked 64 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. 65 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: Miss Mary Mack. If you look at our notes in there, 66 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: I literally wrote Chiefs. You will see it. 67 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: I'm asking you you'll see it. 68 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: Go be my compliens, because the Ravens it's there. They're 69 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: justifiably going into the season. We thought they'd be there, 70 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: but here we are again and it's the same greatest 71 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: hits again. 72 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: They're three and three. They're not going to the super Bowl. 73 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: The Chiefs are. 74 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: This is what I found out, that another team's not 75 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. I didn't look at it 76 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: from the Chiefs. I looked at it that the Lions 77 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: once again have shown them that they're fraudulent because the 78 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: two teams that they needed to beat or the good 79 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: teams are the two teams that they lost, Green Bay 80 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: and Kansas City. And Kansas City had a chance to 81 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: make them two and four, which would have been good. 82 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: They've been scuffling as far as winning games. 83 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: So this was a game that. 84 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: The Lions absolutely had a chance at winning in Kansas 85 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: City because everybody else seems to be beating them. Uh 86 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: and they had a chance to be two and four 87 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: in this early season. And who if they beaten the Bears, 88 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: they hung fifty points on them, the Bengals, who aren't good, 89 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: and the Ravens now that win against the Ravens isn't 90 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: as good because they can't beat anybody, so that you 91 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: take that one away. So really, who have they beaten 92 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: this year to make you feel look good about the Lions? 93 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: And that's what I took away from this. This was 94 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: a game to me where the Chiefs are uneven. They 95 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: didn't have that, they weren't favored by seven and a 96 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: half points. Because this was a game that the Lions 97 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: couldn't get and and the Lions couldn't win it. And 98 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: those were the two games that I looked at and 99 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: I said, not to win both of. 100 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: Them, split it. 101 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: This was a game I would have felt a lot 102 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: that I would have been like, Okay, maybe the Lions. 103 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 4: Do have some mojo, really have something going. 104 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: But when it came down to it, they have the 105 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: wins against mostly the teams that aren't good, and the 106 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: wins the two games against the teams that I consider really. 107 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: Good they're owing to. 108 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: So I looked at that and I thought to myself, Okay, 109 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: as we go forward, we'll see where the Lions are. 110 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: But wait, waitakay, not even mad at some of your points, No, 111 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm just but how then is it fraudulent versus Well, 112 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 3: let's wait and see. Because one of the things and 113 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 3: I we talked about last season that I like about 114 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: the Lions last year, and it seems to be this case. 115 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: Obviously you lost is a loss, but is that day 116 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: whoever is in front of them when they win, they 117 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: beat them usually bad. And that they had the point 118 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: differential difference last year point differential this year. 119 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: Meaning they beat the Ravens by a mean that they go. 120 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: In and they beat who they're supposed to be and 121 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: they don't typically play down to come. If it's the Bengals, 122 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: they beat them. If it's so and so they beat them. 123 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: And that's what I like about You felt. 124 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: Good about last night's game. 125 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: About about the Lions, I thought they what I did, 126 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what I didn't like was I 127 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: felt like they were rattled for a bit. When they 128 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: caught a great fourth down, they didn't get in an enzo, 129 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: they got an enzo and then they called it back. 130 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: I felt like a rat like kind of took them 131 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: out of it a little bit. I didn't like that 132 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: the Lions had seven points in the second half. I 133 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: don't and I don't like that the Chiefs defense is good, 134 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: but it's not that you shouldn't feel like it's that 135 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: good that you can't put up points. So I think 136 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: the Chiefs got a couple of few third down conversions 137 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 3: that kept them on the field, that kept the Lions 138 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: offense off. But I didn't walk away from that feeling 139 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: like I thought the Lions. I think the Lions lost 140 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: to the potential AFC champions representative and the Super. 141 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: Bowl, not that now. They might be You might be right, 142 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: but they're not that now. And at two and three 143 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: coming in, they weren't that. They were on their heels 144 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: in a must win game. I think I told you 145 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: Friday that they had to win. They couldn't have gone 146 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: to and four, and that was my network. But that 147 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: was one for the Lions to really bury the Chiefs, 148 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: which they could have, which they could have to me 149 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: seven points in the second half. 150 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: Wow, the concern now for the Lions. You got to 151 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: play the Bucks. We're gonna talk about later on. But 152 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: Vikings commanders the next three games. Yeah, But Baker Mayfield, 153 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna say good because you never want anybody hurt. 154 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: But the thing that would be in your favor if 155 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: you're the Lions is the receivers are hurt, all of 156 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: them banged up a little bit for the Bucks. So 157 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: that'd been your favorite. Because the Lions dbs are banged up. Now, Branch, 158 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: they done suspended Branch themselves. What in the world I 159 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: thought the league did? 160 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 4: Maybe I saw it wrong. I thought the Lions. Gee, 161 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: what was it the league or was it the Lions? 162 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: Because I saw the league? He is suspended from the league. 163 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: That's what I thought. 164 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: They're one of the better players on the defensive side 165 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: of the ball should already. 166 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm not mad, and me and Dan Campbell don't agree 167 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: on a lot, but I agree with the way that 168 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: he took him the task he caught right away to 169 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: call him out, because there's no place for that. 170 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 171 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: You can't do that like that, meaning if it's in 172 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: the confines of the game, stuff happens. We see scuffles 173 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: right after the game up. Yeah, and I understand he 174 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: did do a dirty playing the back. You have to 175 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: and he Branch said it, I gotta handle that in 176 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: the confines of the game, in between the lines, because 177 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: then you just looked at it. We don't Joe Public 178 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: doesn't know that right the league, we're not they just 179 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: see that. 180 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: We don't know. Well a few players ago he did this. 181 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: You can't swing on somebody was walking. 182 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: Up to you that, So man, look bad no matter what, 183 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: because no, it doesn't that that didn't come with an 184 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: explanation like it wasn't on the back of your fist. Hey, 185 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: I'm about to punch because of this and this and this, 186 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: all we see is the slap or the punch. So 187 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: look bad. And that's a big blow for a secondary 188 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: to the lines that they could not afford to lose. And 189 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm very disappointed in him for doing that, putting your 190 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: team in a buying as already struggling health wise on 191 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: the back end. So now even more bird is going 192 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: to be on that offensive line. 193 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 194 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 195 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 196 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Hi, this is Jay. 197 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 5: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show. 198 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 5: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 199 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 200 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 201 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 5: have the dumbest takes on Sports Magical. Don't listen to 202 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 5: the show so it can get campers. 203 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: Get him. Ignore that fool. 204 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: Listen to the Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio app 205 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcast. 206 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: He's still moving. 207 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna rag on Doug Gottlieb and I have to 208 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: what's the name of the segment because Doug does it 209 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: on the on his show what does the Fox Say? 210 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: He listens to like what we might out take, and 211 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: then he kind of takes us the task on his show, 212 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: which is fine, I'm good, this is all game. 213 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: We're on the air. And that has to do with 214 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: James Franklin. What do you think? 215 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Like he's so bent out of shape that Penn State 216 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: fire Ben, Ben Franklin, James Franklin and Doug. 217 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 4: I get it. 218 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: Doug's a coach who hasn't won, so he's making it 219 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: like like he can say what yes sometimes as hard 220 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: as he can make whatever. I get it. But it 221 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: sounds bad. It just sounds bad because he's like, well, 222 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: where's the honor in that? And now blah blah blah, dude, 223 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: and we say it on this show all the time. 224 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: Sports has a short menu wins and losses, and when 225 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: you don't win enough, guess what you get fired? 226 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: So I get it. 227 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: But Doug is trying to like, oh my god, it's 228 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: so Jane Frank looking up what he's done, and is 229 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: that dumb that honor or whatever? 230 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 4: Dude? He stop? Okay, I listen, I get it. Doug. 231 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: You're a coach. You're a I know you have a 232 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: radio show, but you're a coach and your team won 233 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: two games last year. So he's trying to like, well, 234 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: it's not always about winning. 235 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: It's about no, No, Doug, I hate to break it 236 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 4: to you. It's about winning. 237 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: And when you win, you can do almost anything, and 238 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: they will bring you back. They'll bend over backwards Kelvin, 239 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: and when you don't win, guess what they go get 240 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: somebody else. 241 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: You want to break down why he ain't here? And 242 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: so because I don't get I didn't hear Doug's full 243 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: take on it. So no, no, no, I'm but but you 244 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: from what you're paraphrasing. I listen, there have been every 245 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: year you and I we told you this what we do, 246 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: and anybody who watches sports long enough, you know there's 247 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: gonna be a scenario where there's a coach who's fire, 248 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: who was formerly coach of the Year or candidate or 249 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: this that and the other gets fined. 250 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: I want to bring this when it comes to us. 251 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: Okay, this is why I'm against your theory of being relevant, 252 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: because this is why he was allowed to stay in 253 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: this job longer than he deserved. 254 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: And I get the timing. 255 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: You lose to UCLA who hadn't led in any game 256 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: this year, Okay, forget about they hadn't led in any game, 257 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: and you follow that up with a loss to Northwestern? 258 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Do you know the alumni? They probably 259 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: froze their accounts the money that they will sending to 260 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: Penn State. 261 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: Like, let's not be silly when you ask why why 262 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 4: do you do this? 263 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: Why are they because the money will stop when they 264 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: feel like they can't go to a game or bring 265 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: their clients or whatever and it's not enjoyable. They will 266 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: stop the money train. That's why these things happen. When 267 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: you ask, why would they eat forty nine million dollars 268 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: because they're gonna lose more than that on the back end. Okay, 269 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: keeping James Franklin around and I looked at it. 270 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: He couldn't win it. 271 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: He couldn't beat any good teams, had a terrible record 272 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: against top ten teams, against Ohio State and Michigan. 273 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 4: I think that he was four and seventeen or like, no, 274 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: you go ahead, am I got the exact numbers. Okay, 275 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: give me the numbers. This is awful. 276 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: And this is why I'm against you on on being relevant, 277 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: because you go, WHOA, what are we gonna do? There's 278 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: nobody else out there, and at least we're in the mix. 279 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: And they were in the College Football Playoff last year. 280 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: But that's why when it came to the big games, 281 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: he couldn't win them. 282 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: So my point has always been I have a shot 283 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: at winning big games, right, you keep us giving us 284 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: a shot. 285 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: You can't. 286 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: This isn't a shot. Rob a shot is, so there's 287 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: twenty five games to do. 288 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: Judge from a shot is twelve and thirteen, eleven and 289 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: fourteen team, This. 290 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: Ain't a shot. 291 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: Dropping Franklin at four and twenty one at Penn State 292 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: against ap top ten opponents, not top five, not top 293 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: three ten. You're supposed to be in that caliber of 294 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: top ten teams. State is a story franchise. It's okay, 295 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: like seriously, so that that's not my My point is 296 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: more of a yo, we got a chance to get 297 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: to the When we talk about like John Harball, for example, 298 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: my point is historically John Harball has a chance to 299 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: get to the AFC Championship compete, you know. 300 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying. 301 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to get rid of a guy like 302 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 3: this this you are four and twenty one verse hot. 303 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: I can't justify when I gotta go to these booster 304 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: luncheon and add for millions and they're like, hey, what's 305 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: up my son, he's a little nerd. He was doing 306 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: some math. I present you the notes my son sent 307 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: me four and twenty one against ap top ten teams. 308 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: Listen to this, including a one in eighteen against top 309 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: ten big ten teams. That's who you're supposed to be, right. 310 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: Maybe you can't beat Alabama. Okay, maybe you can't be 311 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: you can't beat the big ten. Ten is who you're 312 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: supposed to beating. And how much longer can I be 313 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: the bridesmaid? If I'm Penn State meeting, I gotta sit 314 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 3: there and watch Michigan get another national championship. 315 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: A couple of seasons ago. 316 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: I gotta watch Ohio State get won last season, could 317 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: potentially get one this year. 318 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: I gotta watch Indiana look really good this year. 319 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: You can where they are, and they just had their 320 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: biggest win in their franchise history in that school program. 321 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: And you know what, I see Wisconsin pull off some 322 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: things here there, and I'm like, wait, how Wisconsin do that? 323 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: Point being, I don't want to keep watching this if 324 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: I'm Penn State, and they'll be quite frankly pun intended. 325 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: Twelve years is a long time twenties. 326 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: This ain't the nineteen sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, even though 327 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: I'll give you early two thousands were guys sit there 328 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: and you just get to be a statue retired. You 329 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: don't even know what you're doing out They're like, coach, coach, 330 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: you go, I got don't worry about Joe Peurna, We 331 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: got you. This is what you're gonna do. Hey, hey, hey, 332 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: hey bo Sam Begger don' wherebo you know whoever? This 333 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: ain't that. This is twenty twenties information social media pressure boosters, 334 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: press nil now. 335 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: But twelve years of a good run and you're asking 336 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: people for millions of dollars. 337 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's what you're asking these businessmen and boosters 338 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: and alumni to come up with. Seriously, and if you 339 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: think they're going to pay money to see you loose 340 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: the Northwestern and u c l A and think that 341 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: that's okay when they flew out to LA for the game. 342 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: And just fired the coach, by the way, like the 343 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: u c LA came in, by the way, Deshaun Foster 344 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: looks so bad right now because UCLA looks like a 345 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: former Look at Rob g your squad, I mean they 346 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: look you have to beat them now. 347 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: They were laughable. It's amazing where they are. 348 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: They're they're they're world beaters now all of a sudden. 349 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: But my point is, you're right, this is not Dudy 350 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: had twelve years. They didn't hire him last year, three 351 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: years or whatever, and say, okay, that's not good enough. 352 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: Twelve years and the numbers and this is this is 353 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: the point about being relevant. Could be like John Harball 354 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. It's been's been years now. After 355 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: a while, Mike McCarthy was in Green Bay. 356 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: That was nice. 357 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: You want to okay, now ten years of past and 358 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: after a while, the Packers were relevant the whole time, 359 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: but they kept losing in those moments. 360 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: The Ravens keep losing in the big moments. 361 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: Tom right, Uh, Mike Chamelin, Yeah, Mike Timeline, Mike, tom 362 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: That's what we talk about all the time. 363 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: Oh, why does he want a forty one year old call? 364 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: He needs to win. He knows he needs to win. 365 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin ain't fooling nobody, and he needs to win 366 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: because the same thing will happen. Like James Franklin after 367 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: a while, that can only buy you a certain amount 368 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: of time. He won a super Bowl and lost one. 369 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: So Tomlin's been there. I get it, but that was 370 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: years ago. 371 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: But by the way they owe that man forty nine 372 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: million dollars, life will be good. 373 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: He'll be fine, dud, He'll be fine, and he'll get 374 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: another job, will get a job. 375 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: He's gonna get these get his money. He'll be fine. 376 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: But my gosh, when they wanted Jim Fish, jimbo Fisher 377 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: out at Texas A and they pay him seventy nine 378 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 3: six million dollars to go home and have a seat 379 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: is crazy. 380 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 4: Think about that. 381 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: They were like sellety six million dollars. You know who 382 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: else is now noway near the money, but I was 383 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: looking it up. It's crazy completely. It's not college, but 384 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns are paying five quarterbacks right now. They 385 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 3: got to relax too, Like it's crazy Cleveland because they 386 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna go into the offseason. You know they're gonna 387 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 3: draft some Cleveland Browns is playing way too many quarters. 388 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: I just don't understand, seriously, And that's why I brought 389 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: up Doug the start. I get it, he's a coach 390 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: and coaches, you know, they feel bad when other coaches get. 391 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: Fired and all that one and eighteen. 392 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: But come on, Doug, you know sports, okay, And if 393 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: you lose, if you win two games again this year, 394 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: whatever it was, dude, they're not going to renew your 395 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: contract and give you a contract extension. 396 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't care. 397 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: Roger, here we go again. Now I gotta be at 398 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: the super Bowl. I gotta be ready. That's exactly what 399 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: I'm thinking right wow, speaking of super Bowl out here, 400 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: like Jon Robbin, we chopped it up with Jonn Robinson 401 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: at the super Bowl. He's just friend of the sixty 402 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: something yards. I'll throw hands if I have to, if 403 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: and when we gotta fight in the Super Bowl. Yeah, 404 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: I'm taking IYO with Sam because I feel like we're 405 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: good friends. We get talk it out, but the you 406 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: two gotta scrap with whoever else is there. Me and 407 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: Sam will act like we're fighting, will be off to 408 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: the side, just talking about what we Let me ask you, 409 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: and then dub. 410 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 4: And young man, who are you fighting? Saying that seems 411 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: Jay stew goes hiking every weekend. I got in shape 412 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 4: like him too. 413 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: Man. 414 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: We have some good runs together, man, Not how you 415 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 4: doing good? Yeah? Man, it's a person, not just you know. 416 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 3: Now we gotta we gotta rope in Monsey to fight 417 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 3: Dan Bayern and they do a show together. 418 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: That's not good. It's all bad because Rob couldn't give 419 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: his mouth shut. 420 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I heard it. It just was like it 421 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: got me fired up. But that's part of I'm you 422 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: wanted a show, but I'm sorry you you cannot. 423 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 4: You're gonna end up a topic on the Doug Gotlieb. 424 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 4: I'm wit listen, I am with you. You set up 425 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: here and heard me's many a time. Man. You can't 426 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: fire him for this or come on, they give one 427 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: more season? 428 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: This to me. 429 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 4: You can't listen. 430 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: You can't be the first coach to lose two games 431 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: in a row to non ranked teams that you were 432 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: favored by more than twenty points. 433 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 4: Like that, that just can't can't happen. 434 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: At last point, real quick for me, I told Rob 435 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: g this, this ain't your mama's and your daddy's big ten. 436 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: We got USC in there now, right. 437 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: You got u c LA now who obviously looks like 438 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: they've turned the corner all of a sudden out there. 439 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: Who knew that? 440 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: But you got an Oregon meaning this ain't the ten 441 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: eleven teams you used to have to contend with. Now 442 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: you got some other big dogs coming in. And we 443 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: can't just be falling down to Penn State. That's how 444 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: you feel. We can't be getting We already got deal 445 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: with Michigan, Ohio State historically. Now we're getting further and 446 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: further down the pecking order. And lastly, they're building a 447 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: brand new facility that's gonna cost them. 448 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 4: I have the number right, seven hundred million dollar. 449 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: Renovation and people gonna stop making donations. This is what 450 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Like you're looking at the forty nine million, 451 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: that's the number to look, Kevin Hart. 452 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: We got a lot going on. 453 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: We need to start winning and start justifying while we're 454 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: doing all this and why people should have putting and 455 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: we're gonna get extra few games and we're gonna be 456 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: in the college football playoffs and all that kind of stuff. 457 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, that that's why. I mean, listen, it sucks 458 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: anytime somebody for them, you know, personally, but this is 459 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: on the heart of the family. I give you twelve 460 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 3: years and the guys around you have two of them 461 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: back to back, one championship. 462 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: And last thing, Doug, this is not okay, hold on, 463 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: let me do some pushup going. No, no, this is 464 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: this is Jay stupid in the No, this is the 465 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 4: last thing. 466 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: It's not like your Supreme Court justice or the pope. 467 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: Those are the only people get to keep their job forever, 468 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: right regardless, Sorry, Doug. Coaches get fired when they don't win. 469 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Sports has a short menu. 470 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports to lineup in 471 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 472 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 473 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: listen live. 474 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: I know we're early in the season, it's only five 475 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: games in or whatever, and a lot of people are 476 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: talking about Baker Mayfield and what he's doing. And I 477 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: get it, Baker's having a really great year so far 478 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay. But I'm gonna throw my hat in 479 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: the ring for Aaron Rodger, a guy who you didn't 480 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: believe was worth waiting for for the Steelers. 481 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: Would you say that, yes? Correct? Because they didn't think right. 482 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: You didn't think that like he was old, he was 483 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: too old or old Aaron Rodgers or I just couldn't 484 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: figure out why the Stealers this is why they were 485 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: waiting for him. And I think he has a better narrative. 486 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: And Rob g we've seen this before when he won 487 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: MVP over Tom Brady, who had better stats. You remember 488 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: that year and it was Aaron Rodgers had really good 489 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: stats and they beat some really good teams. The Steelers 490 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: have won only one home game so far. They got 491 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: two road wins and one Intern National win. That's huge 492 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: the start, but you know what I mean, three game, 493 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: three wins away from home. Lost that game to Seattle 494 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: at home. He has ton touchdowns, three interceptions so far, 495 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: playing way better than anybody could have imagined. 496 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: Right now. 497 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: Last game no sacks, which if they can protect him, 498 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: keep them up right and and him not get hurt. 499 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring, and I 500 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: say he has a chance. Here's the reason I think 501 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: he has a chance. 502 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 4: The division which nobody which nobody thought that they could 503 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: win Baltimore the Bengals, right, and then maybe people looking 504 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: at the Steelers as a third team. Now they have 505 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: a legit chance to win the division and getting off 506 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: to this good start. 507 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: Who do they have on Monday? On Thursday night, they 508 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: have the Bengals, so they could be fine. Even won 509 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: should day, I'm sure they'll be fab probably a touchdown. 510 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: They have a chance to be five and one. I 511 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: don't think that people who thought that they might. I 512 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: think you picked eight or nine wins. 513 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: Is that what you have said? Nine and eight? I thought, okay, 514 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: like the ceiling. 515 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: If they win that game, that would take them to 516 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: five five out of six, they got a good shot 517 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: to win twelve. 518 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: Would you admit that? Would you say that? I meant 519 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 4: cause then you only need to win six of your 520 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 4: last ten. That's not that's not like, no, that's not 521 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 4: a possible last anything. 522 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: You hate to Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers are doing 523 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: what they're supposed to do, So I don't want to 524 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 3: take that away from them, that the benefit that they 525 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: have four games are supposed to be against Joe Burrow 526 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: and Lamar Jackson, which let's say you win one, but 527 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: so you're one and three against those or whatever, but 528 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: that those are all beatable games. 529 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: And you know we just mentioned the Bengals next, so 530 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: that's a huge. When I was making is. 531 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: Progimication, prognistation, whatever I'm talking to, progmications even say it 532 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: right now, prediction prediction, it was that you're gonna be 533 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: playing Lamar Jackson, arguably the best player in the NFL, 534 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: and then also Joe Burrow arguably top three to four 535 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: best quarterback. 536 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: So now it is wide open for them. 537 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: So they to me, you better take advantage of this 538 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: apps freaking loutely if you're the Steelers. 539 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 4: Now. 540 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: The reason why I hear you and I'm not. My 541 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: question was never that Aaron Rodgers can't play the position. 542 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: He had solid numbers last year. My issue was Steelers, 543 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: when are you gonna find your guy? Because you've gone 544 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: through this. You went from being a team that has 545 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: very few quarterbacks that you kind of find your guy 546 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: for a long time, find your guy for long time, 547 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: to now you got a guy for a year, maybe 548 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: two Max, When are you gonna get your guy? 549 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 4: Was my issue? 550 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: But when you look at why he's not gonna be 551 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: in this MVP candidate conversation, why you don't hear his name? 552 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: He's twenty to third in passing yards right now, Rob, 553 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 3: But I mean, his numbers aren't that great. When you 554 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: look at some of the guys ahead of him, it's 555 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: absolutely You know, guys, you would never think cam Ward 556 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 3: has more passing yards than him. 557 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: It's not about you rattlers, but many touchdown the Ward have. 558 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: If camerret that's probably two or three. My guess would 559 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: look at three a yard hold on sound yards. 560 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 3: But then you have touchdowns Baker, and you have guys 561 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: who have bigger stories. 562 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 4: Sam Donald's a big story. 563 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: The team you bought out for didn't want you to, 564 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: sent you to Seattle, and you're playing incredibly well to 565 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: the tune of uh Sam Donald. Eleven touchdowns, three interceptions, 566 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: and you have fifteen hundred yards. You got Matthew Stafford's 567 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: on Gray, SE's, Dak Prescott's up there. 568 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: We already. 569 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: You think Stafford's having a great year. I don't think 570 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: he's leading the league. Dude, that's incredible. He's leading the 571 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: league in passing yards. He's twelve touchdowns to two interceptions. 572 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: But his team is one of the better teams in 573 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: the MC. He's looking incredible right now. Sam Donald, Dak 574 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: Presscott Baker Mayfield, Dak Press, got record. 575 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 4: V We're gonna be looking at Patrick. Don't want to 576 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: MVP will losing record to the Colvin. 577 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: No, no, no, but he's gonna be the Joe Burrow 578 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: where we start having conversations. I think he's doing exactly 579 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: with you. He's doing exactly what he's supposed to do. Hey, 580 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 3: I can't help that these quarterbacks are injured. I can't 581 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: help Cleveland starting. 582 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that that that that has anything to 583 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: do with him, you know what I mean? Like you 584 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 4: got to play? Who's out there? 585 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: You see him saying, And the expectation for the Steelers 586 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: was was was uh tempered? Like you? 587 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: Mostly A lot of people were in your camp nine 588 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: and eight. Oh, Aaron, did you see him in New York? 589 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: Oh? 590 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 4: The Jets got rid of him. Nobody wanted them. 591 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: This that there's a narrative there or conversation of a 592 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: forty forty one years old who has a team off 593 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: to a great start. And I'm just saying, if they're 594 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: able to win the division, a win twelve or thirteen games, 595 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: there's a real conversation. And he continues to limit the 596 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: mistakes and and stays upright and doesn't get. 597 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: The best thing he's doing is getting the ball out 598 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: of his hands quickly. Looks like we got a touchdown 599 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: there for the Bills. Well that's how they come out. 600 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: Good way to come out the uh the second half 601 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: of the scoring a touchdown? Here about a twelve fifteen 602 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: yard pass to Ray Davis receiver. Here's a couple of 603 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: other things. Though they beat the Jets, who we just 604 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: been talking about the Jets, the Browns the most recently. 605 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Remember when they beat the Jets, the defense was god 606 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: awf will give up two hundred and fifty yards of 607 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: the round right, And he was able he would talk. 608 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: But I'm I'm just saying he's been I'm talking about 609 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 4: who they've beaten. 610 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: Though they beat the Jets, they beat the they beat 611 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: the Patriots when they have five or five turnovers and 612 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: barely beat them. They beat Carson Wentz and then they 613 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: beat the Browns. And I think those things are hindering. 614 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: While he's not in the conversation. People are looking at them. 615 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: I think people are going, that's interesting. They're for him, 616 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: but nobody knows what to make of them yet because 617 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: we haven't really. 618 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: Think that we know. 619 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: But Baker and the and the Bucks have been good 620 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. This is not like the 621 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: Baker story to me, isn't new like they wanted. 622 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: Taking it up a notch. Not touchdown do you have 623 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 4: now he's playing. 624 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: He just lost his other good receiver last night who 625 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: second half was out and now Mike Evans. 626 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 4: We don't know. He's starting to practice a little bit. 627 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: Baker is going crazy right now. 628 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: Rob he has twelve touchdowns, one interception, a passer rating 629 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: of one hundred and eight point five. 630 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's going crazy winning all. He's not that 631 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: far behind, is what I'm saying. Saty the teams that 632 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: he's beaten and he's. 633 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: In stats wise yards dude, he only has one thousand yards. 634 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: He's the main guys on He does sixteen hundred almost 635 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: seventeen hundred per Look at the touchdown they were almost identical. 636 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: He has everybody they have eleven. Look at these dudes 637 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: have thirteen. You thought that the Steelers would be where 638 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: they are. I don't even care who they were. 639 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: I told you you didn't believe it. Wilson, David, I'm 640 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: not said it's gonna be. He's gonna win. I told 641 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: you it's gonna be. 642 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: Just like Russell. 643 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: Russell went six straight and he lost five straight. The 644 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson drop off is coming. Where they're gonna end, 645 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: they're hosing. 646 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 4: No, I'm hoping for now Again. 647 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: That was thinking you're gonna be playing Joe Burrow twice, 648 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: thinking you're playing Lamar Jackson twice, and things of that nature. 649 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 3: So he's take full advantage of it. I would too, 650 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: there being who they're supposed to. 651 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: But nagg it. 652 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: That is a very fortunate situation in that division because 653 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 3: we thought it was gonna be a tough division