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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to How to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 6: Let's hear that birthfarek beers.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artist.

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Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Maybe arguably the most anticipated episode in the history of

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Speaker 1: the Anakin Florian podcast. No Is It Not? Monday November eight,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Episode three twenty four of the Anak

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Speaker 1: and Florian Podcast. I'm in my daughter's bedroom? What of it?

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Speaker 1: Maybe the most anticipated episode in the history of the show.

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Speaker 1: Can flow. It's great to see your shining face. It's

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Speaker 1: great to see you as well. So you're telling me

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Speaker 1: that's not the wallpaper that you picked out for your bedroom. No,

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Speaker 1: it is my room. Actually. The unicorns mind, I knew it.

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Speaker 1: It's all mine. The rainbows are mine. So before we

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Speaker 1: get going, my family and I have booked an airbnb

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Speaker 1: for the first time in our lives for a few

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Speaker 1: nights during Thanksgiving week because the Palm Beach County School

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Speaker 1: System decided that the kids should have the whole week

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Speaker 1: off for Thanksgiving. So we're getting out of here for

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Speaker 1: a little bit, going across the state of Florida, going west,

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Speaker 1: And so my wife's trying to put together in itinerary.

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Speaker 1: She's like, Oh, we're going to go to an escape room. Right.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever done an escape room? I've done it

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Speaker 1: a couple times. I myself have a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: doing those, all Right, So twice in your life you've

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Speaker 1: done an escape right, and you got out both times? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You got out every time? Every time. Does anybody not

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Speaker 1: get out in the hour of allotted time? Have you

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Speaker 1: ever heard of somebody who went into an escape room,

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Speaker 1: couldn't put whatever clues together and did not get out right?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There might have been another group that

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know because that would be me right,

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Speaker 1: So I don't I've never done an escape room. I'm

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Speaker 1: a free man right now, right, So why would I

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Speaker 1: sign up to go be locked up for an hour? Right?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What if we don't get out? Oh, how was the

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Speaker 1: escape or what?

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Speaker 3: Not? Good?

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Speaker 1: Because we didn't figure it out and we we were

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Speaker 1: in there for the entire sixty minutes. I asked my

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Speaker 1: wife with fifteen twenty menution. No, it's sixty minutes, you know,

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Speaker 1: so I don't know.

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Speaker 7: You have seen UFC would be down a commentator or

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Speaker 7: the podcast would go to shit.

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Speaker 1: I mean we'd be in trouble. John, get out to

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Speaker 1: get up an hour? They let you out, right, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like they let you out. I don't know. Some

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Speaker 1: places they might not. I don't know. Bring New York

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Speaker 1: City Marathon can flow. Sorry to interrupt you off the top,

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Speaker 1: so fucking rude. I try to pride myself on not

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Speaker 1: doing that. So we'll see how many times I cut

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Speaker 1: you off the rest of the show. But I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: fired up today. If I was going to try to

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Speaker 1: accomplish something, I would do the Boston Marathon, like the

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Speaker 1: New York City Marathon was on Sunday, So the marathons.

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Speaker 1: In my head, I'm thinking about maybe doing the Boston

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Speaker 1: Marathon in the next couple of years. That's something I

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Speaker 1: would do. But like an escape roun like, am I

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Speaker 1: gonna feel like, oh, out of the escape room?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if it's good for the kids.

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Speaker 1: The all ages made me more encouraged that I could

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Speaker 1: actually get out, but I don't know, Man, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: You kind of have to pretend like you're this detective,

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Speaker 7: you know, when you're in there, like you're looking for clues,

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Speaker 7: and it's exciting to me.

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Speaker 7: It's not everyone's cup of tea. But I am curious

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't jumptail with my skills necessarily, but we'll see,

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Speaker 1: the main event. Ray Longo coming up in five minutes.

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Speaker 1: We'll also talk to the People's reporter, Aaron Braunsteader from

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Speaker 1: TSN Sports and James Kraus after a big week for

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Speaker 1: him and Kenflow coming up to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 1: Because the UFC's wheels keep on churning, but Kamar Usman

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Speaker 1: and Kobe Covington go the distance. I have been listening

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Speaker 1: to Kobe Covington's walkout that what is it Kurt Angles

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Speaker 1: So but Kolbe Covington certainly never looking for a way

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Speaker 1: and defeat. But Kamara Usman is one of the UFC's

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Speaker 1: all time great fighters. And if you weren't using the

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Speaker 1: it now. He's fifteen to zero in the UFC strength

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Speaker 1: full of them for the Nigerian Nightmare.

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Speaker 1: He has improved as a fighter.

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Speaker 7: We've seen him get better as a striker, We've seen

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Speaker 7: we saw that yet again here against Colby Covington, a

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Speaker 7: himself and certainly had an argument for you know, getting

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Speaker 7: that fight stopped in round two.

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Speaker 1: Usman was all over him, dropped him twice.

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Speaker 7: In my mind, I thought that could have could have

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Speaker 7: very well have been a ten eight round for Uzman,

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Speaker 7: and Colby Covington, to his credit, came back, fought hard,

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Speaker 7: then it was Uzman who you know, had to do

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Speaker 7: And I agree with you he's one of one of

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Speaker 1: Cody, while we're talking, can you just throw the ten

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Speaker 1: eight scoring language in the private chat so I can

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Speaker 1: the program down with it necessarily, but for Colby Covington, right,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier texted me that it was a tough scene

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Speaker 1: the work that Colby and Covington had done, you know,

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Speaker 1: like he has developed some power. You know, some people

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Speaker 1: There are other fighters that train for power, like Michael Chandler,

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Speaker 1: but clearly Colby Covington, even though maybe he landed more

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Speaker 1: do think Colby Covey Key can get better. But right now, Kenny,

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Speaker 1: it is a minus three hundred minus four hundred gap.

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Speaker 1: You know that we saw on Saturday night.

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Speaker 7: He's in a tough spot. I think that he fought

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Speaker 7: You just get the sense that Uzman is just more

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Speaker 7: He hits harder naturally, it seems, than Colby did. I

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Speaker 7: think Colby's speed was impressive. I don't think Colby is

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Speaker 7: and he did hurt Uzman during that fight. It just

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Speaker 7: Uzman was just a little bit too good everywhere for Colby,

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Speaker 7: and we had a hell of a fight because of it.

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Speaker 1: There's one line, Kenny, in the scoring that I just

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Speaker 1: have to say to you, Okay, a score of ten

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Speaker 1: Because the first line of the scoring is a ten

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Speaker 1: need duration. Two knockdowns should be a ten eight in

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Speaker 1: my opinion. But the scoring language is so poor and

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Speaker 7: Would you have scored it a ten I would have

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Speaker 1: He's obviously made quick turns as far as champions go,

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Speaker 1: he's been a promoter's dream. But it's not as though

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Speaker 1: there's a wealth of options. And that's in some part

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Speaker 1: because his Nigerian friend Israel Adasanya is the UFC midleweight champion.

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Speaker 1: and it's a favorable matchup, right, might even be favored

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Speaker 1: to be Dizzy, but yeah, that's not happening right now.

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Speaker 1: So you're the promoter, Ken Flow, put on your fucking

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Speaker 1: promoter his hat. Who's next for Kamorrow?

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Speaker 7: Leon and Masvidala. I think that if Edwards wins, I

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Speaker 7: think that's an intriguing fight.

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Speaker 1: Gotta be the guy.

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Speaker 7: Ed Edwards is an excellent striker, really hasn't proved as

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Speaker 7: well in that.

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Speaker 1: Championship fight with Masvidal.

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Speaker 7: I don't you know, listen, they've already thought twice that

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Speaker 7: fight's not gonna happen again for the third time. And

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Speaker 7: of course you know you have Chimaia kind of waiting

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Speaker 1: I think they would both deserve that money.

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Speaker 1: But you just said this interview, right, don't group us

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Speaker 3: fuck outy here. He went to New York for three days.

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Speaker 1: Even nights, seven nights at the Hilton. I barely saw Ray.

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Speaker 3: John listen, I if I if ill to me that night,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, everything was messed up. What I'm telling

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Speaker 1: I went for a nice walk towards a park in

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Speaker 1: You know what, I saw a bunch of fucking rats.

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Speaker 3: Have legs of full legs too, Hey, new York now

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Speaker 3: It was backstage. It sounds like you were guns blazing. Yeah, yea.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've elevate that position. That's a good position

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Speaker 1: I go so we have so many things to get to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ken flow, I'll get your thoughts on Bobby Green

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Speaker 7: Didn't have a perfect fight, but I guarantee you she's

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, what did you think of rosnama Unis? Are

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Speaker 3: I was back at home by two o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Roses a sweetheart. Kenny's right, absolutely controlled the range. When

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Speaker 3: agree with you. It was just a great She's just

431
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: so nice to watch and you got it. You have

432
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Speaker 3: to root for her, you know, And it's like there's

433
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: certain people look to me this whole night, the sportsmanship

434
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Speaker 3: was what one.

435
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 1: I know, man, that's as a play by play guy.

436
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: It's like I'm trying to like figure out how much

437
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: to lean into that, Kenny, right, because I keep.

438
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 3: Seeing you know, you have to lean into it, John,

439
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: because we need more of this. It'll it'll bring people together.

440
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: I mean I really, look, I'm bummed out, but I'm

441
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: not bummed out because of what I saw from these

442
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: athletes this time of Valante. Valante's guy. You people die

443
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 3: to get two seconds with Joe Rogan. This guy decided

444
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 3: to give it up to Valanti. Made it about after

445
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 3: what this guy? How could you dislike this guy? You

446
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

447
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: Like Jick was all over the place, not Sordini, Mavov,

448
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 1: you know, repeatedly apologizing to Edmund Schabazi and you know,

449
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: not trying to like destroy your face for two months

450
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: in the Crucifix.

451
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 3: But beautiful like Bobby Green. I love the way he's

452
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: got a great message. I think he'll live. Look, nobody's

453
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 3: perfect in this world. But and you just keep trying

454
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 3: and pushing forward and getting along with people, you know.

455
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: So to me, that was the big takeaway man, when

456
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: that guy, you know, gave it up to Valante on

457
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: his last fight. I just that's not a selfish guy. Man,

458
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 3: that's a that's a good dude. I don't care what

459
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: that guy does. He's a good dude. Just on that

460
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 3: got to hang out with glovet Tech Sarah a little

461
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 3: bit light heavyweight champ in the world. You didn't never

462
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: know it. Everybody should look at this guy. He's humble,

463
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: he's nice, he's polite. Act like him. Trust me, you

464
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: don't want fans that you know, want the other bullshit.

465
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 3: This guy is on the money. I just every second

466
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: you talk to the guy, he's just a great guy.

467
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Speaker 3: So I think there was a lot to learn. So

468
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Speaker 3: I put a lot of takeaways for me. But uh,

469
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 3: getting back to Rose, just another you know, great performance,

470
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: and Kenny's right, she had a dig deep but that

471
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 3: that fifth round, that takedown was beautiful. And then I

472
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: think that put the icing on the cake. And she

473
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Speaker 3: I thought she fought a great fight. You know, could

474
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Speaker 3: she make improvement shit little bit, but she she would

475
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: like again that girl was swinging for the fences and

476
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 3: hell yeah, that's because Rose understands this and she understands

477
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 3: how to control the range of a fight. Beautiful footwork,

478
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 3: long jab in and out what's not to like? Man,

479
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: I could watch a fight all day long.

480
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Speaker 1: New segment on the show next week, five Fighters Ray

481
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: Longo would never coach. We're gonna come up with guys

482
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: the opposite of guys like lover to share a five

483
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Speaker 1: guys long Ago would never coach at Annik Florian Pod.

484
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Speaker 1: That'll be a fun segment, right Yeah, but uh, John's.

485
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Speaker 3: On the top of that list right now.

486
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Speaker 1: Oh man, he's looking for a coach, right, We're gonna

487
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: send him over now.

488
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 3: He's having fun in his garage where he belongs.

489
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Speaker 1: I can't even encourage that athlete anymore with like a

490
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: thumbs up on Instagram that the whole fan base coming

491
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: at me.

492
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: So you know what happens. Like, you know, there's that

493
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: old saying, if there was never bad in the world,

494
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: you wouldn't even know what good is, you know what

495
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Speaker 3: I mean? Like when I talked to Glove of Me,

496
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: it's just what a different cat this guy is. He's

497
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 3: just you know, the guy he's walking around swinging that

498
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: belt over his head as he's well, wouldn't even know

499
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: he's in the room. Yeah, you know, he's helping his teammates.

500
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: He's just just a great guy, great energy.

501
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean I just before the show started saw another

502
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: one man almost run over a guy on purpose with

503
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: his truck because the guy was taking too long to

504
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Speaker 1: cross the street.

505
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: Right.

506
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: Some people, man, some people it's Floridians. My God given

507
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: the rest of us a bad name. So in terms

508
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: of what's next for rosnama unis very quickly and people

509
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: are probably like, can you just talk about Getchee and

510
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: fucking Chandler already? But for rosama Units, it's interesting because

511
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: I do believe that she will be a two to

512
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: one or more favorite against almost anybody in this division.

513
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Carlos barz A matchup stylistically is intriguing

514
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Speaker 1: because it's a rematch because Rose was two and one

515
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Speaker 1: the first time they fought. Because as far as I

516
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: has all this momentum and a lot of strength as

517
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: well Marina Hadriguez, I think is an intriguing challenge. But Kenfill,

518
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: right now, I thought that of everything you guys said

519
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Speaker 1: about Rose's performance, the thing that resonated with me the

520
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: most was the first thing out of your mouth that

521
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: Rose maybe doesn't win this Shanwei Lee fight. A few

522
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: years ago. She so composed the ability to adjust and

523
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: this experience is so good. It's like these are the

524
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: best title fights to win, right Like, AND's like she

525
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna have to fight Jong Way Lee now for

526
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: three more years.

527
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Speaker 3: You know.

528
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Speaker 1: It's like, really got the finality, I thought, even in

529
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Speaker 1: a relatively close fight, and it's just a perfect experience

530
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: and to use into that next title defense. She dealt

531
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: with so much in there, you know, you know, the

532
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: technical adjustments that she had to make. You know, her

533
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: leg was pretty much compromised, what first seven minutes of

534
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: that fight, you know, and that's a big part of

535
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: her game, that footwork. So I thought it was an

536
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: awesome fight from Shongwei Lee. Just Rose was just that

537
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: much better and was able to make the adjustments and

538
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: come back and execute the right decisions out there, especially

539
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Speaker 1: in that fifth round. So it's great to see someone

540
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: like Rose come into her own We I think anyone

541
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Speaker 1: who saw her early on knew that she had all

542
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Speaker 1: the potential in the world, and we're seeing that realize now.

543
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: And John one thing too. You know, you look at

544
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: her fight with Joanna, I mean back and forth, it's

545
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: a battle, right that was a great fight one side

546
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: the other side. Once I just who's gonna break first? Rose,

547
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: don't give you that chance. That's the beauty of Rose.

548
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: She's not engaging in that she can control you. That's

549
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 3: not an easy thing to do, and that that's the difference.

550
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: I think the tough fight for Rose, but the girl

551
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: probably moved up. Who's the the girl gave her a

552
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 3: really tough fight for three rounds. She was coming on strong.

553
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: I agree, see five round fight would be really intriguing

554
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: because her third round was huge against Rose. So I

555
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 3: think that type of relentless pressure where you don't care

556
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: you're getting hit, you're eventually get there, that that could

557
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: be a p like that. That's an Ali Frasier scenario.

558
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Speaker 1: You know, Kenny. Yeah, I don't even know what styles

559
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: make fight makes fights really means. I walked out of

560
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: that on Josh Rose fight thinking like Andrage won right,

561
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: like you know, Like I mean, dude, like that third round, Ray,

562
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: that's a great point, Like that's a good there's two rounds.

563
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: To that, right then we're really gonna have to dig

564
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: down deep. Well yeah, you know, but that that's what

565
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: comes to my head for that.

566
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: Are we disallowed because of music rights to have Kobe

567
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: Covington's walkout song playing behind us right now for the holes, Dana, right,

568
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: I mean I counted, Cody. Are we not allowed to

569
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: do that? I mean, Ray, I mean, we could go

570
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: in so many different directions with you. We have about

571
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: twenty more minutes or so. Cody gives me an lol,

572
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: I guess we can't do that. Da don't cut this up, Cody, DNA,

573
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: you have to listen to the whole show to get

574
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: this type of content. You don't just get this on

575
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: fucking Instagram. Ray, I'm just so impressed with with Ousman

576
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: and Covington. I mean, you got like sixty seconds of

577
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: efficiency for me on the main event before we try

578
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Speaker 1: to tackle some of the rest of the stuff.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, you know, I think he came out a

580
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: little tentative. Uh Kobe, what was that?

581
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: Kobe?

582
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 3: Kobe? Yeah, Kobe, I'm sure, But all in all, a

583
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: great fight. I mean Kobe, look, Kobe's he's tough man.

584
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: He proved it in that fight. He got rocked, he

585
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: was you know, he was in trouble, but man, he

586
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: came back and I thought he won. He definitely won. Uh.

587
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: Three and four, I think I think I had it

588
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: even going into the I'm not really sure. I'm telling you,

589
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: by the time that fight came, I was delirious from

590
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 3: the highs and lows of every other fight.

591
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't well.

592
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: I watched the fights with al Al, Joe Widman, Matt

593
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: we just had a great time, but it was exhausting

594
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: by the time I got to that fight.

595
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Speaker 1: I'm telling him, like.

596
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Speaker 3: Kobe tough and had his moments. I thought he rocked

597
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: him a little bit. I like the fact that he

598
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: at least, you know, he did get a takedown and

599
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: he was pushing that. I would have liked to see

600
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: that earlier. I think would have maybe worked out a

601
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: little better for him. But all in all, Uh, it

602
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: was a good, great fight. Another good fight those guys. Unfortunately,

603
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: he's probably never gonna beat that guy. Uh. You know,

604
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: we really want to make an in interesting and I

605
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: think Kobe does wouldn't want to do this. I'd like

606
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: to see Kobe against Jamaiev and the winter it gets

607
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: another shot.

608
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't know if the calendar is going

609
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: to align because Colby is going to need a lot

610
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: more recovery. Ms Ota wants to grapple Jackermanson in eleven

611
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: days and then wants to fight December eleventh, even though

612
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be prevented from doing both

613
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: of those things. But hey, I was asked a year

614
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: ago for my dream fight for twenty twenty one, and

615
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: my answer was Kolbe Covington versus Kamzat Chimayav.

616
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: So there you go.

617
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: See, we're not as different as you think. Ray. You

618
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: know we're more aligned than you think.

619
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: Are you feeling sensitive today? Who said we were different?

620
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

621
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put up a video of al Joe ordering

622
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: at an Italian restaurant later. It's a classic. It's a classic. Yeah,

623
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: that's why I'm saying that.

624
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: Couldn't have send that to me?

625
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: Right?

626
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: I could have played it on the show.

627
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: We could have some contact, we could always we could.

628
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: This might live on forever, who knows.

629
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Speaker 1: All right, So and Jong Way Lee, I do think

630
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: not unlike Colby Covington of a different person was champion.

631
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: I certainly think that she could get back there, you know,

632
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: And I'm very curious to see if you want to,

633
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: Young j Check will come back at some point. But

634
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with with all of that, all right.

635
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: Justin Gaigie versus Michael Chandler. You know what's interesting, We're

636
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: going to talk to to Aaron bronstandered here in a

637
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: little bit and he tweeted out something to the tune of,

638
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, this might be the fight of the year

639
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one, it might go into the UFC

640
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Both of those things are probably true,

641
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: and yet it might be justin Gaigie's third or fourth craziest,

642
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: like most exciting fights, you know, I mean so, but

643
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: this is the greatest card in UFC history for me. Now,

644
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: I have a great answer when people ask me that

645
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: question in interviews, and this was the fight of that night. So, Ray,

646
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: what do you make of that madness between Geeche and Chandler?

647
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: And if Chandler was your pupil, would you be upset

648
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: that he wasn't a little bit more technical?

649
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: Listen, I don't think you can. You can only rain

650
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 3: these guys in so much, right. I love Michael Chandler.

651
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: I don't really know Gaechie, but I would think I

652
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: would love them because it's just I do love them

653
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: without knowing them, because these are these are fucking biserkers man.

654
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: And but did they match up perfect on that night? Yeah,

655
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: when Chandler was even giving him the fingers to come back.

656
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: I mean Chandler, I mean if this was a movie

657
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: to me, I mean Chandler knocked it out at the park,

658
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: you know, if he was if he was acting in

659
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: a movie.

660
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: But it was for real.

661
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: And the shots that those guys took and had to

662
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: endure and laugh about it after the fight. These are two.

663
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: I think Gaychie said it, man, I think he said

664
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: it after the fight. They belong in the uh, in

665
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: the coliseum, these guys, these guys, you should just put

666
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: that fight him till one guy just couldn't even move anymore,

667
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: because that's that's what you had. But uh, technically, I

668
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: think Henry did the right thing with him in the corner.

669
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 3: You know, like you you're a little quicker than him.

670
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: I think he probably could have just employed that jab.

671
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: It looked like he couldn't miss him with that. But

672
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: then he started getting hit with the upper cut and

673
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Gaichie found a home for that a bunch of times.

674
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: It was just a.

675
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: I can't imagine talking to either. I was those guys

676
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: are gonna do with they? I think you have a

677
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: little bit you could interject, But at the end of

678
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: the day when it's go time.

679
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

680
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: You know when Gai Chee was showing signs of you know,

681
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: some technical ability that he is technical, but you know

682
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like in the other fights he Fortsmont,

683
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: he went right back to let's see who goes down

684
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: first type of mentality. It was. It was that's about

685
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: as fun and as good as a fight as you're

686
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: gonna see.

687
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: Cancelo, How good was that?

688
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: Huh?

689
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 7: Just ridiculous if you're not a master grappler, right, So,

690
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 7: if you're a striker, any kind of striker, I don't

691
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 7: care what your pedigree is, I don't care what you've done.

692
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 7: If you fight justin Geichee, you're going to have to

693
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 7: walk through hell.

694
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: That's it.

695
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 7: How many how many people maybe up to middleweight would

696
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 7: have been knocked out in round one in that fight.

697
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. The shots that that Geechee ate. It

698
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: was crazy the shots that Chandler ate. Again. You know,

699
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: how many times do we have to come out of

700
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: a gay Chee fight or a Chandler fight?

701
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 7: Just surprised that the amount of heart and toughness and

702
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 7: determination that these guys have. These guys were pretty much

703
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 7: made for each other This was our kind of Ward

704
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 7: Mickey Ward Arturo Gatti fight in a lot of ways,

705
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 7: just insane. Right before the fight, I said, there's no

706
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 7: way this fight goes the distance. And sure enough, you know,

707
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 7: this fight went the distance, and we had ourselves one

708
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 7: of the best fights we ever seen. You could have

709
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 7: ended that fight after five minutes, all right, and the

710
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 7: rest of the pay per view could have been crap,

711
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 7: and I would have been satisfied. We got fifteen minutes

712
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 7: of some of the most insane action you ever seen.

713
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 7: It was a movie style fight, and I said, I

714
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 7: tweeted this after the fighter said. The only difference between

715
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 7: people like you and guys like Gaigie and Chandler is

716
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 7: pretty much everything. Ah, there's very few people like these

717
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 7: individuals that people don't understand the amount of toughness that

718
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 7: it takes to withstand one of those shots. It was

719
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 7: fifteen minutes of an absolute bar brawl between two of

720
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 7: the best fighters in the world in their weight class.

721
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 7: Ridiculous pacing of lightweights with the power of potentially middleweights.

722
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: Just thank you to those guys. It's just insane.

723
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: And I tell you, I think Chandler is just his

724
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: enthusiasm and his antics. Just he really up to antea

725
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: that fight like I've never seen him like that, you

726
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean. He's so engaged with every aspect

727
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: of the fight, you know, and you know what I

728
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: like that. I mean and both in both fights too,

729
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: you know, Like I really at the beginning, I said, man,

730
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: I think Chandler's going to put this guy on his back, uh,

731
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: and that the fight is going to be a rough

732
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: night for him. But man, the wrestling was, you know,

733
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: kind of negated, which is crazy on you know, It's

734
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: just I think it goes to show you how good

735
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: Kabib is because he's getting you down like there's no

736
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: I'm not getting you down. It's just so dominant, you know,

737
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: he's a high level guys. Kenny. I I'm flabbergasted by that.

738
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: I really am. It's a mind boggler to me. He's

739
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: he's going to get that takedown no matter what I mean.

740
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: And that's what's intriguing about Jamaiah because their dedication to

741
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: getting the takedown. It's not like I'm gonna try. I'm

742
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 3: not going to expend any energy. If it's too much energy,

743
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 3: I'll back out. Now. They don't care. They're gonna empty

744
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: the gas. It's it's it's a it's a live or

745
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: die type of thing for them, and that's what you

746
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: need at that level because everybody's like at the same pace.

747
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: They get negated. Those takedowns easy. He wasn't gonna do

748
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: that with the guy because that guy, that guy was going,

749
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: he was all eggs in one basket, you know, because

750
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 3: I know guys, they don't want to exert themselves there.

751
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: And maybe I didn't do the cardio. It's it takes

752
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: too much energy. These other cats don't care. Man, this

753
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: guy's lifting people up, he's having smoking a cigarette, he's

754
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: having a conversation with somebody. They dumps you on your head.

755
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: That's that's a different animal, man, it really is. So

756
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see how that plays out. But these

757
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: two guys on this night were just absolutely phenomenal. Yes,

758
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: I mean and entertaining I mean, which is hard to do.

759
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're both good friends. I've professed a lot of

760
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: love for Gaichee on these airwaves. Right, I have a

761
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: fantasy football team that's called Team Gaichie full disclosure.

762
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: Right.

763
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: So, and Chandler is just a fucking savage too. I'm

764
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just both absolutely incredible. I've never seen

765
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: any fighter in my life quite like Justin Gaichie. I

766
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: think you both put it very well. But in terms

767
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: of the division, I think it's very interesting because Ken

768
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: Flow you led with the fact if you are not

769
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: a master grappler slash wrestler, you're in real trouble potentially

770
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: against Justin Gaigie. And I do think Chandler got to

771
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: a point in the fight where he's like, all right,

772
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna be knocked out concussively to the head,

773
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: so maybe I can knock him out. But you know,

774
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: I'm making a very good about amount of money to

775
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: show up tonight, and I'm one and two in the UFC,

776
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: but I'm making a lot of money. I'm sort of

777
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: liberated without the championship aspirations right now. And I know

778
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: maybe Henry Hope was a little bit frustrated that my

779
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: guard wasn't tighter, but I think, I think, I think,

780
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of respects, Michael Chandler was

781
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: trying to produce a Hall of Fame fight on Saturday

782
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: night and mission accomplished in that area. But Kenny master Grapplers,

783
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: of which Benil dart Yush and Isla Makasha both are right,

784
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: and so is Charles Olavera, but not necessarily the type

785
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: of guy who can get you to the ground as

786
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: easily Islam can, right. I mean, Islam has all these

787
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: layered trips and shit that just fucking get you there,

788
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: and then he has so many different ways to keep

789
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: you there. He'll take you right over to Kabib, you know.

790
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: And I do think Gaichie doesn't cut a lot of

791
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: weight to lightweight. Islam cuts a lot of weight. There's

792
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: a size and strength thing I think that they played

793
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: there that we certainly saw in the Khabib fight. So,

794
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: if you're Justin Gaichee right, like his whole thesis statement

795
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: on this fight was set up a title shot, right,

796
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: So after the fact, he's like, you know, I needed

797
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: to make sure that this night I produced another opportunity

798
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: for Trevor Whitman to win on disputed gold. And so

799
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: what Justin Gaigie needs is either gae Chee or either

800
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: Poorier Kenny or Olivera to emerge cleanly and to get

801
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: his title flight. Justin Gaigie's the number one contender. He's

802
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: going to get this opportunity Islam or Banil or whomever

803
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: is going to be next, but it's gonna be Kenny

804
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: Gaichie versus the Pourier Olivera winner on December eleventh, and

805
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: now I guess we just wait. But your thoughts on

806
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: all that noise, if you would, jeez well, and I

807
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: think you make a lot of astute observations.

808
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 7: I think it's an important point to say, not only

809
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 7: do they have to be a master grappler, they really

810
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 7: have to be a master wrestler. Right, because he got

811
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 7: to put Gaichie on his back, I don't think Olivera

812
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 7: is the guy to necessarily put him on his back.

813
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 7: Olivera is a slick striker and Geegee has to be

814
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 7: careful there. But as far as negating or taking away

815
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 7: this submission advantage for Olivera, Geechee could do that by

816
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 7: just defending the takedown and keeping it on the feet.

817
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 7: And I think he matches up extremely well against oliver

818
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 7: I just think that the way that he fights and

819
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 7: the way that OLIVERA fights, I really like Gaigie's chances

820
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 7: in that, which is why I think he's so adamant

821
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 7: and why he's calling for that fight, right, Dustin Poie.

822
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 7: Of course we've seen that fight. I think that would

823
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 7: be another banger, So I wouldn't mind seeing that again

824
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 7: for sure. But Geigee has put himself in this situation.

825
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 7: I think he deserves it. You look at the way

826
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 7: he fights and what he's done for the UFC and

827
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 7: the fighters that he's beaten. I think that's the next shot.

828
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 7: Now against a guy like Mahaschef you mentioned earlier, that's

829
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 7: a tougher matchup just because of that damn wrestling that

830
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 7: he possesses. He's, you know, basically a clone of Habib

831
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 7: with better striking. Hey, Ray, Yeah, well I like watching

832
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 7: you adjust yourself there. That was fucking precious. Sorry, so

833
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna throw out a few more names here. We

834
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 7: got about four and a half minutes left with you,

835
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 7: I really have before you die.

836
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: Threw off the treble whitman, man, like I've had three

837
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: right on the same card. That magnitude, right, I mean,

838
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 3: the guy's that that guy is amazing, man. I think

839
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: he's got the right demeanor with his with his people,

840
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: and holy crap, what a night that guy had. That's

841
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: a that's a Hall of Fame night. Just that night

842
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: to The other thing with Chandler being one and two,

843
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: he look, this fight was close to very very close

844
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: with him.

845
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, he hates got a lot of time,

846
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: there's no doubt, you know what I mean.

847
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: So he might be one and two, but man UFC

848
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: has been a great fit for him, and this was

849
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: an extremely close fight. So it's there's no there's no

850
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: loss there that made. Of course, there was no loser

851
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: in that fight. That's what I'm trying to say. Both

852
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: guys come out winners. There's one hundred percent not a loser,

853
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: and hat's off to him, but that was it.

854
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 7: Just just to piggyback on the Whitman comment for for Ray, Yeah,

855
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 7: an amazing night for him and a coach who has

856
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 7: developed three different style of fighters. And you look at Uzman.

857
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 7: He's different from gai Chi, who's different from Rose, you know,

858
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 7: I mean, they're they're all different fighters, and he's been

859
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 7: able to implement, you know, his philosophy on striking and

860
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 7: integrate everything together in three different packages of people who

861
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 7: may have the belt for you know, a long time

862
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 7: geatechie course doesn't have the belt, but Rose and Uzman

863
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 7: I could see them holding onto those belts for a

864
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 7: very long time. Uh and Gigi's knocking on the door

865
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 7: now too. So just an amazing job by by Whitman

866
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 7: and that camp.

867
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's his demeanor, impersonal because look, Usman is he

868
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 3: did come up under Henry Hoof, so we got to

869
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: give him the credit till you know what I mean.

870
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: It's not right to go right to that because he

871
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: was already developed fight or a champion, but to be

872
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: to be able to take somebody who's got a certain

873
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: degree of ego at that point, he's used the one

874
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: way of doing things. I think a guy like Trevor

875
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: is the perfect fit. He's soft spoken, you know, he's

876
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: very humble. You know, he seems like just like a

877
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: great guy. So I give him credit for that would

878
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: do his mind, you know. But I don't want to

879
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: take away from Henry because he was with Henry for

880
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: years and unfortunately Henry doesn't get the relish and the success.

881
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 7: That he I think that's I think that's absolutely valid, right,

882
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 7: I think that's important. But I also think it's important

883
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 7: to note that Wopman has has taken Usman striking up

884
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 7: a notch.

885
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: For sure.

886
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 7: He's a much cleaner striker, his job is way more developed.

887
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 7: But yeah, I agree Hoof deserves a lot of credit.

888
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: Because I love Henry to I love all these guys.

889
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Man was for me.

890
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: It was great. I got to catch up with Mark, Henry,

891
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: I saw Trevor. It's just good guys man in the

892
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: sport that really put their heart and so I don't

893
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: think people realize what the coaches go through. Man, they

894
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: got to balance a lot of egos. They got teams,

895
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: they got guys wanting to do this, wanting to do that.

896
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: It just it's it's not easy. So these are some

897
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: really quality guys. When I get to talk to them,

898
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: I really enjoy every second of it because you know,

899
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: we could you know, everybody feels each other's pain, you know,

900
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: like Mark Eskimate, like, what the hell I'm even still doing?

901
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: What am I doing? You know, I have no idea

902
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: at this point, you know, like I want to say

903
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: another thing, like, you know, because Valante retired. When we

904
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: went out to eat, there's a picture I think everybody

905
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: put up. I'll put it up later, but we're all

906
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: out at a really nice Italian restaurant, Emelio Bilados. Give

907
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: him a shout out. They did a great job, and

908
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: everybody goes there the Nero. Any celebrity in New York

909
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: goes there. But we were sitting there, man, I said,

910
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: you know what the table I go. This is the

911
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: end of an era. Man. You know it was Al Wideman,

912
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: Valante Costa, that was you know Al Joe came a

913
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: little later. But it's fourteen years. These guys have been fighting,

914
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: you know what. I'm just I want to say, I'm

915
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: proud of every one of them. You know, they all

916
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: own multiple houses on Long Island. That's not easy to do. Man,

917
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: these are young kids. They got a great start in life.

918
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: But fourteen years the amount of damage you take. And look,

919
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: we had some laughs, we had some highs, We've had

920
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: some lows. But I couldn't think of a greater group

921
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: of guys and just you know we Valante was never

922
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: my guy, but he was so close with Chris. He

923
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: was always in the gym and just I want to

924
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: wish him the best of luck. He's going to do

925
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: great as a coach and as a teacher. And he's

926
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: a he's a happy camper, he really is, and he's

927
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: going to do fantastic and like and these old guys

928
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: had a great start, So nobody should feel bad for anybody,

929
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: but it's it is the end of an era for me,

930
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 3: and it sucks. And that's one era there was and

931
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: never before that. So just like I'm in this thing,

932
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: what twenty five thirty years now, I don't know. You know,

933
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: it's getting a little wacky, but.

934
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: You can't get out right. We got you for life, kid, Yeah.

935
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: You know when you start losing those guys that you've

936
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: been with for fourteen years and you think all the

937
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: good things you went through, people's problems you had to

938
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: deal with and everybody just sticking together, Well you're being

939
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: attacked by the media by this, and it's just a

940
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: great feeling. I don't know.

941
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad you took the time to throw

942
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: that in there, you know, especially for John Valante, right,

943
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: who wanted to be in the NFL ends up Kenny

944
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: with thirty one professional MMA fights crazy and obviously it

945
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: didn't go out the way he didn't go out the

946
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: way he wanted to. But uh, just one of my

947
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: favorite people on the roster over the years. I remember

948
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: talking to him in places like Brazil and other spots

949
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: and real quickly and I know you got to go,

950
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: and we got to get to Aaron. But in terms

951
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: of Trevor Whitman's humility and any man's humility, right, It's

952
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: easy to sit here and say like, oh, I don't

953
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: have an ego, right, but you need evidence. And for

954
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: Trevor Whitman, the fact that he gave up his commentary job. Right.

955
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: How many coaches in MMA want that Dean Thomas set

956
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: on the UFC telecast, right, and Trevor Whitman gave it up. Now,

957
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: there are myriad reasons he gave it up, one of

958
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: which was his commitment to his athletes. Right. How many

959
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: people give up that seat right for the money or otherwise.

960
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: So I think that just speaks to how humble he is.

961
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: And I couldn't be happier for that man. I think

962
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the public eye feel misunderstood, right,

963
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: and feel like people say, oh, maybe you're cocky or

964
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: maybe you're not humble. And it's like for a lot

965
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: of these people, they are like beacons of humility, and

966
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Trevor woman is very much of that. All Right, Hey,

967
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: have a great day and a better evening and all

968
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: that stuff. You got anything else before we let you go?

969
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean the former Ring of Combat champ John Bealantes

970
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: on the way out. I don't celebrate long ago losses,

971
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: right like I love raging ally at Quinta, Like, no,

972
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: we're not looking for New Yorkers to like break through

973
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: and win UFC championships, like go over to Shries in

974
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: New England.

975
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: Guy, you know, world champion, but the East Coast had

976
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: a rough night. But listen before I go billy Q,

977
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 3: I mean, how is this guy's hot? I mean, holy crap.

978
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: That was that was right out of Monty Python. When

979
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 3: they chopped the guy's legs, I got another leg? Man?

980
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: What another great? Yeah, you know, great kid. I hope

981
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: they took care of him, because you know.

982
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: He Dana said as much at the he was going

983
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: to take care of him and Shane.

984
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, on any other fight card, that's the fight of

985
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: the night and yeah, and you get followed up with that.

986
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: And the other thing is I hope Frankie's okay. Uh,

987
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: it was a pretty vicious kick. He's and those guys

988
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: are great guys, and I hope that works out well

989
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: for him. But that's it.

990
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: Hey, much love, thanks for giving us time. It's not

991
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: an interview, Okay, this is the podcast you've had for

992
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: three it's not an interview.

993
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 3: Okay, Hey guys, any any time I'll come on an interview.

994
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean, when was the last time you got paid

995
00:47:59,160 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: for an interview?

996
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: Wait for an interview? What was the list time I

997
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: got paid for anything? You feel? The podcasting?

998
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right right? We pay your ten sets of T shirts.

999
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: Thank god I get away a couple of shekels Kenny Us.

1000
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: They wouldn't have been able to do this.

1001
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: The media, the man.

1002
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: Take it easy, guys.

1003
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: Matt Sarah was not at all happy with the Ray

1004
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Longo Fight Team sweatshirts. Literally didn't say hi to me.

1005
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: I haven't even told Cody this. Literally didn't say hi

1006
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: to me. Just uh came right up and was like

1007
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: this sweatshirt, you know you make guys make me look

1008
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: like this it you know, and it's like, here's the deal, okay, Like,

1009
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what your podcast is called, Matt Sarah,

1010
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: don't know what it's called. Do not listen, right, I

1011
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: know it's sponsored by the UFC. You know, I'm sure

1012
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: you guys do really well financially any other spots, but

1013
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: I needed fight gear that didn't have your name on it.

1014
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: I didn't tell Cody to do it. You know, I

1015
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: don't know if that's you on the sweatshirt. I needed

1016
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: a Ray Long go Fight Team sweatshirt. And now I

1017
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: have now joining us, and we appreciate his patience as

1018
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: we're about four minutes tardy. So glad to have this

1019
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: guy on the mixed martial arts beat. I'm not sure

1020
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: what he would be doing if he wasn't ours, but

1021
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: Mixed Martial arts reporter and content editor for TSN Sports

1022
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: Aaron brons stetters with us on social media at Aaron Bronstetter.

1023
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: Great to see you, sir, how are you hey?

1024
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me on for the I appreciate it,

1025
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 9: looking forward to the next week.

1026
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: Say that again. You cut out a little bit. Oh yeah,

1027
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: the MIC's cutting out. So we'll wait. We'll make sure

1028
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: we get this the h there exactly.

1029
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 9: There we go a b all right, I'll get rid

1030
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 9: of my high tech equipment. We'll go off, we'll go

1031
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 9: off the phone.

1032
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: Night. There we go.

1033
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: It's great to see your brother. So uh so you

1034
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: said Monday was a good day for you. I'm always

1035
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: curious after you get off a live event like that,

1036
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: do you get a chance to decompress. As as you

1037
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: can see, I kind of got to hit the ground

1038
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: running Tuesday. I'll I'll take a deep breath. But obviously

1039
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: we're right into another fight night this weekend, as I'd

1040
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: imagine you are too.

1041
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I usually take Mondays off when come home from travel,

1042
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 9: but you know, you guys asked me to be on

1043
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 9: the show, and that's important to me, of course, So

1044
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 9: here I am, and I'm happy to join you guys.

1045
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 9: You know I'm back at home three kids, so you know,

1046
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 9: the grind never ends. You get off that plane and

1047
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 9: you're right back through other jobs.

1048
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: How old are your kids? Three kids?

1049
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: Good for you?

1050
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 9: I got last week my oldest turned eleven, my youngest

1051
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 9: turned three, and I've got a five year old in

1052
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 9: the middle.

1053
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: All right, youngest is three, so he's got fifteen years

1054
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: until they're all out of your hair.

1055
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, just counting down the days I've got a

1056
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 9: time we're up in my kitchen. It's like a yeah,

1057
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 9: how many? How many more hours I have left?

1058
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: So I said to my twin brother, I know you've

1059
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: been on remember the show with Balah Muhammad, And I

1060
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: know they're going to get you back on. But I

1061
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, should we book Aaron Brown Setter on

1062
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: the end conformed pot He's like, yeah, why would you

1063
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: not book him? You know, so he's fucking I agree

1064
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: with him.

1065
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 9: That's a great point by them.

1066
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: So right, well so and we went right to it. So, so,

1067
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: how much traveling have you been doing it? Where do

1068
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Speaker 1: you live and how have you navigated sort of the

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Speaker 1: pandemic As a reporter that I know would like to

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Speaker 1: be live and at events as much as possible.

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Speaker 9: Well on in Toronto. This was actually my first trip

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Speaker 9: back since the pandemic. So it's been about twenty months

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Speaker 9: since I've traveled for a UFC event. And you know,

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Speaker 9: I don't get nervous doing interviews on site and talking

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Speaker 9: to the fighters. But the first day that I was

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Speaker 9: coming back, I was in my hotel and saying, am

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Speaker 9: I going to be any good at this anymore? You know,

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Speaker 9: like I haven't done it in a while, And then

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Speaker 9: Michael Chandler stepped in front of me. I'd never met

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Speaker 9: the guy, but I've spoken to him many times in

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Speaker 9: the past. It was just like riding a bike. I

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Speaker 9: just got right back into my stride and it's just

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Speaker 9: so great to be back in person with all these

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Speaker 9: athletes because the Zoom interviews for twenty months, it just

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Speaker 9: got so redundant. Like you could have told me I

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Speaker 9: was talking to like the Pope tomorrow on Zoom. It

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Speaker 9: would have been like any other interview. It's just like, okay,

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Speaker 9: well what time is what Tuesday at five forty five? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 9: no problem. You know, I wasn't getting out of bed

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Speaker 9: I excited to do interviews on Zoom anymore, but being

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Speaker 9: on location again was just it was such a breath

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Speaker 9: of fresh air. So I was happy to be back

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Speaker 9: on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Part of the reason I asked that question was because

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Speaker 1: I hadn't seen you with boots on the ground in

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Speaker 1: a while, and I know the Canadian landscape has been

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Speaker 1: a little bit challenging to navigate. Well, that's good, picked

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Speaker 1: up right where you left off. So I saw tweet

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Speaker 1: that you had about this justin Gaichee Michael Chandler business,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about it a little bit earlier, but

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Speaker 1: almost as if to say, like this might have been

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Speaker 1: gay Chee's third or fourth best fight in his career.

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Speaker 1: And you know I've capped his fights on the air

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Speaker 1: by saying, have you ever seen anything like Justin Gaichee,

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Speaker 1: I have not, and Chandler is like right there with him,

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Speaker 1: what did you make of that fight? And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's time to give it historical context, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are trying to do that too.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was saying, it's one of the front runners

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Speaker 9: for fight of the year, and it's probably just In

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Speaker 9: Gage's third or fourth best fight, like you mentioned, you know, like,

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Speaker 9: I don't think that fight was as good as the

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Speaker 9: Brier fight. I don't think it was as good as

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Speaker 9: the Alvarez fight, and I think the Michael Johnson fight

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Speaker 9: just for for as long as it lasted, it was

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Speaker 9: more exciting. But man, that was an incredible fight. Like

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Speaker 9: I was there and I was on the edge of

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Speaker 9: my seat and it was awesome. And I was one

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Speaker 9: of the very few people that said I thought that

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Speaker 9: fight was gonna go to a decision, just because these

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Speaker 9: are two elite fighters in a three round fight, and

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Speaker 9: it almost a couple of times in the first but

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Speaker 9: it did end up going to distance, which I think

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Speaker 9: a lot of people were surprised by. But yeah, I

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Speaker 9: just think Justin Gaizee to me is the pound for

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Speaker 9: pound most exciting fighter to ever do it, Like you

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Speaker 9: just know that when he's entering the office gun, you're

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Speaker 9: gonna get something special. He has not had a single

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Speaker 9: boring fight for his entire I mean his entire UF

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Speaker 9: secret but also his entire MMA career. His fights in

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Speaker 9: the World Series of Fighting were unbelievable as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like who would be the most offended guy? If

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Speaker 1: you said gay Chie is the most exciting fighter in

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Speaker 1: MMA history. If you're if you're a fighter out there

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Speaker 1: and you're offended, you can hit us up at Anna

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Speaker 1: Florian Pod, you know, like who's the number two Aaron?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, because I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of us give gai Chie that perch uh. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Interesting, Like I was thinking that.

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Speaker 9: The other person that came to mind for me was

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Speaker 9: Fador in terms of just guys that you know, when

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Speaker 9: they're in there, it's going to be an exciting fight

1144
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 9: because or his fight's always ending like weird and weird

1145
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Speaker 9: ways that's crazy ways that they're always very frenetic. So

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Speaker 9: I would put him at number two just in terms

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Speaker 9: of sheer entertainment that I put him probably at number two.

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Speaker 9: And I'm sure there are others that I'm missing. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I felt terrible for Shane Burgos because Shane Burgos is

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Speaker 9: like probably a top ten exciting fighter also, and he

1151
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Speaker 9: had to fight right after those guys, right, and that fight,

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Speaker 9: I said, with ninety five percent of the time, that's

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Speaker 9: the fight of the night.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're just gonna leave.

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Speaker 7: We're just gonna skip over tak Abbot. Hi, guys, that's

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Speaker 7: what we're gonna do. We're just gonna forget about tag

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Speaker 7: Abbot all his okay, right series.

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Speaker 9: I mean that is a good point. Tank out Abbot

1159
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Speaker 9: was going in there blacklining guys with one big shots. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: but yeah, it was that was a long completely different era. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: totally different era.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, because the emotions that I had in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three at fifteen years old watching Hoyce Gracie is

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Speaker 1: like nothing I've ever seen in my life. So all right,

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to get Kempflo's thoughts on this as well.

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Speaker 1: TSN's Aaron Brown sitter with us here on the Anaicanploran podcast.

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Speaker 1: So the comparisons between George Saint Pierre and Kamara Ousman,

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Speaker 1: people just can't help themselves. And I sometimes talk in

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Speaker 1: absolutes and want to have conversations about legacies that are incomplete,

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Speaker 1: and Kamaras is certainly that right, So you can compare

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Speaker 1: Kamorrow to Kabib, Right, Kabib's is done at thirteen and

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Speaker 1: oh in the UFC, and kamara is already fifteen to oh.

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Speaker 1: But you've outlined a lot of statistics obviously on social

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Speaker 1: media between these two guys. And Kennyby is a former

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Speaker 1: teammate of George San Pierre, so we'll get his thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the other side. But how do you compare these

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Speaker 1: guys in terms of, you know, their primes and when

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Speaker 1: they're at their peak, like who's the better guy?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I put those stats out and I

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Speaker 9: got the people that we thought it was Uzman saying, ah,

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Speaker 9: these are biased dats, and then the people that thought

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Speaker 9: it was George saying all these are biased dats and saying,

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Speaker 9: I'm just putting out that I add a zero context

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Speaker 9: to it whatsoever. It was like a side by side thing,

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Speaker 9: and man, it makes it really difficult to come up

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Speaker 9: with an answer because you know, George was so dominant

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Speaker 9: and he didn't really have a Klobe Covington in his career.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the closest thing is probably Matt Sarah where

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Speaker 9: like you need to see a rematch to really determine

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Speaker 9: who won that fight. George was just and I mean, Kenny,

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Speaker 9: you were fighting during George's era and you trained with George,

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Speaker 9: like you know how special of an athlete George Saint

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Speaker 9: pieis and and I mean you look at some of

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Speaker 9: the scorecards, like fifty to forty three against John Fitch,

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Speaker 9: if like, if you were watching back then, John Fitch

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Speaker 9: was a destroyer who wouldn't give people a second to

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Speaker 9: breathe with some other them for three rounds and would

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Speaker 9: make them look like a child fighting a man. And

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Speaker 9: George did that to John Fitch. You know, the problem

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Speaker 9: is we live in a world of recency bias where

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Speaker 9: you look at what Kamorrow Usman's doing and you see

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Speaker 9: how dominant he is, and you see him beating Colby

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Speaker 9: coming then people make this point like Colby Coveingon would

1204
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Speaker 9: have beaten all the guys George Saint Panafi fair. But

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Speaker 9: we're talking about two different eras where guys were specialists

1206
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Speaker 9: versus you know, a lot more well rounded mixed martial

1207
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Speaker 9: artists in today's world. So it's really hard to make

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Speaker 9: that comparison. You know, it's it's funny when Kamorrow won

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Speaker 9: the Ultimate Fighter for as the hobby was at TSN.

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Speaker 9: I think it was like that the day after or

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Speaker 9: the next week with Roy McDonald and I said to Fras,

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Speaker 9: this guy just won the Ultimate Fighter, and right, he

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Speaker 9: reminds me of George, Like, I have a feeling about

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Speaker 9: this guy, and I might that might be the best

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Speaker 9: prediction I've ever made in the history of making predictions,

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Speaker 9: because it's rung through, it's you know, it's rung through

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Speaker 9: with just how dominant Kamorrow's been. And I don't really

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Speaker 9: have a good answer for who the better uh wealthweight

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Speaker 9: of all time is. And I think that that just

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Speaker 9: speaks volumes about Kamorrow being a top five all time guy,

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Speaker 9: because a lot of people put George as a top

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Speaker 9: three all time guy.

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Speaker 1: Kenny, I want to hear your thoughts on this. The

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Speaker 1: John Fitch name, I think is an important one to

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Speaker 1: inject into this conversation because I mean, that dude kept

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Speaker 1: me up at night, you know, like just in terms

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Speaker 1: of man like, what would I do if I ever

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Speaker 1: got locked in a space with someone like that?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know that there's a

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Speaker 1: great answer. I mean, certainly, title defenses are the number

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Speaker 1: one consideration for me, and George has more of those

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Speaker 1: right now. They never fought each other, so we're never

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Speaker 1: going to get a clear answer. But what do you

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Speaker 1: think about these two legacies and these two guys and

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Speaker 1: all the comparisons that are out there?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think the other interesting thing to kind

1238
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Speaker 7: of talk about was that, you know, both these guys

1239
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Speaker 7: had very different trajectories and very different paths to their

1240
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Speaker 7: championship reigns. I think tomorrow and you look at his

1241
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Speaker 7: first ten fights, right, you know, didn't have the strongest

1242
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Speaker 7: strength of schedule. Okay, you look at George Saint Pierre's

1243
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 7: first ten fights, It's like Carle parisians in there, Matt

1244
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Speaker 7: Hughes is in there. And and then we talk about

1245
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Speaker 7: who George beat to become a champion, Matt Hughes, who

1246
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Speaker 7: was at the time the most dominant UFC champion that

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Speaker 7: they've ever had, you know. So Eddie went out there

1248
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Speaker 7: and dominated him then beat him again, you know, which

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Speaker 7: is really impressive. Then of course you talk about all

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Speaker 7: his title defenses. I don't think Uzman is there yet. Okay,

1251
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Speaker 7: and clearly it's a different error. The strength of schedule

1252
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Speaker 7: now that he's faced over the last ten fights or

1253
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Speaker 7: the last seven fights or whatever, is a higher level

1254
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Speaker 7: in a lot of ways. Right that there's the fighters

1255
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Speaker 7: are so much more well schooled, they're way more experienced,

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Speaker 7: So that is very different.

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Speaker 1: Usman is on his way.

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Speaker 7: I'm not ready to say he's the best welchaweight champion yet,

1259
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 7: but again, George Saint Pierre's in front of him, the

1260
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Speaker 7: guy who I think is the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 7: Never had any controversial you know, drug tests or things

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Speaker 7: that you know, oh, you know, so there's nothing that

1263
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Speaker 7: is really smearing his name there. You know, had had

1264
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Speaker 7: a and any losses that he had that maybe were

1265
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Speaker 7: big upsets like the one against Matt Sarah, he was

1266
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Speaker 7: able to go and get get you know, revenge, and

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Speaker 7: so I don't know. And as far as name power,

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Speaker 7: George San Pierre one of the biggest champions that we've had,

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Speaker 7: one of the biggest names we ever had, and he

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Speaker 7: did an ever where I mean, do you do you

1271
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Speaker 7: maybe in the Bispig fight, But was there ever a

1272
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Speaker 7: time he ever heard George set Pierre say anything bad?

1273
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Speaker 7: About his opponent or ever talk crap. He did it

1274
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Speaker 7: the old fashioned way, and he did it little by

1275
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Speaker 7: a little. Over time, it became, you know, the biggest

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Speaker 7: name of the sport. I guess brock Lester might have

1277
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Speaker 7: been a bigger name, but right there with him. So

1278
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 7: but Uzman's absolutely on his way. He's been so oppressive,

1279
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 7: different trajectories too, amazing fighters.

1280
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: A B. You think Kem Flow's got love for George

1281
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: Saint Pierre, who doesn't have.

1282
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 9: Love for George? And I mean, the guy, like you mentioned,

1283
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 9: was such a gentleman, and you look at the guys

1284
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 9: that he'd beaten. I think every single one of his

1285
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 9: UFC fight would have been against the top five guy listen.

1286
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 9: I mean the division was a lot smaller back then.

1287
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 9: This was a growing sport at the time. But you

1288
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 9: mentioned Carol Presian and that was his UFC debut. Parisian

1289
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 9: was like a title contender at that right time, Like

1290
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 9: people thought that he was one of the guys that

1291
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 9: was going to be a long time champion in the sport.

1292
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: And George.

1293
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 9: I looked at the stats today and I think it

1294
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 9: was like twenty six significant spikes to one in that

1295
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 9: fight or something. Along those lines, like George just completely

1296
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 9: embarrassed Carrol Parisian, who again, like if you go back then,

1297
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 9: I think a lot of people like Carrol was a

1298
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 9: young monster who a lot of people thought was going

1299
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 9: to be the champion.

1300
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1301
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 9: So again, a lot of it is about contact. A

1302
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 9: lot of it is you're trying to argue with people

1303
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 9: that haven't watched the sport for as long that didn't

1304
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 9: watch George's rise and his uh his championship years with

1305
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 9: the same lens as what they see with Uzman right now.

1306
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 9: And I mean, hey, on the flip side of that,

1307
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 9: I think Usman is fighting the far more well rounded guys.

1308
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 9: He's got a lot more guys in the division because

1309
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 9: there are a lot more people fighting now, Like the

1310
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 9: UFC is such bigger, so the talent pool is still

1311
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 9: huge for him to face, and he's fighting like guys

1312
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 9: like Gilbert Burns and of course Covington twice, Masdal like

1313
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 9: these guys are just absolute marauders, right, So it's not

1314
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 9: like he's having any cupcakes in his h you know,

1315
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 9: in his resume. So that's what makes it such a

1316
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 9: difficult question because we've seen George lose twice and We've

1317
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 9: just never seen unless you watch Usman's whatever second professional fight,

1318
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 9: we haven't seen Usman lose. So it's it's hard for

1319
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 9: us to look at it through the same lens.

1320
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: And we've seen George nearly lose and come back and

1321
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: win get kicked in the head by Carlos kan did

1322
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: and had that been an l obviously, that would have

1323
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: changed his legacy, like he won that round, yeah, right, right,

1324
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: And Kamar really hasn't had that moment. I mean, there

1325
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a time in this fight over the weekend that

1326
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: it felt like he got hurt or wobbled. Really, even

1327
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: though Kobe landed some big shots and the UFC two

1328
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: forty five fight, the ability for Kamora to take those

1329
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: shots was just insane. Like, man, he's incredible, and so

1330
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: is George obviously. And it's an interesting conversation. So what's

1331
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: like your favorite sport other than mixed martial arts? Like

1332
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: do you watch a lot of sports on TV? Like me,

1333
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: I got three kids, I never watched TV sports or

1334
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: otherwise really if it's not the UFC, Like, what do

1335
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: you watch? You a hockey guy?

1336
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 9: No, I was never really a hockey guy. You know,

1337
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 9: when I first started getting into journalism, I wanted to

1338
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 9: cover basketball. I was so into basketball. But now there

1339
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 9: are so many games that I can't keep up with

1340
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 9: it at all. Like if you ask me to name

1341
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 9: ten players on like a specific team, I probably wouldn't

1342
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 9: be able to do it now. But back then, I

1343
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 9: used to be able to rail off their stats. I

1344
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 9: used to be able to tell you, you know, what

1345
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 9: number they were drafted, where, which college they went to. Like,

1346
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 9: I was really into basketball when I first got into journalism.

1347
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 9: I'd say now my second favorite sport is the NFL.

1348
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 9: Like it's a lot more palatable to just watch a

1349
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 9: bunch of games on a Sunday on red Zone and

1350
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 9: follow along. And I'm in many fantasy football leagues, so

1351
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 9: that would probably be the only other sport that I

1352
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 9: follow fairly closely. Yeah, but yeah, like you mentioned, it's

1353
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 9: just because the michelar Stark schedule is year round and

1354
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 9: we put so much time into this. You know, I

1355
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 9: understand if people don't have kids or whatever, they could

1356
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 9: probably you know, watch a lot of sports whenever they

1357
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 9: want to in a leisure time, but with three kids,

1358
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 9: it's you know, no rest for the wakeed.

1359
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: I just love it, like if you're a red blooded

1360
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: man or woman, how do you not like American football?

1361
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: You know, like you're you're too smart an individual to

1362
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: not like American football.

1363
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 9: You know, that's amazing.

1364
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1365
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 9: The NFL is such a fun sport. I mean, and

1366
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 9: then when you watch, when you are watching it through uh,

1367
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 9: you know, when you're thinking about your fantasy team, like

1368
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 9: yesterday was such a disaster for me, like and a

1369
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 9: disaster for so many favors, Like if you were in

1370
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 9: suicide leagues, yesterday was not a good day for you.

1371
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 9: In all likelihood, it was.

1372
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: A bad one. I got a fantasy team that's oh

1373
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: and eight, you know, but I just have a lot

1374
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: of UFC fans, like European fans ask me like, hey,

1375
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: I want to get into the NFL, give me a

1376
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: team to root for. And I never gave them the

1377
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: New England Patriots because I felt like it was too

1378
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: much of a front runner, you know, like it was

1379
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: like Man City, like when I started falling.

1380
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 9: I don't really have a team either in the NFL,

1381
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 9: Like I just love the sport, like I love I

1382
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 9: always like kind of cling on to certain players, like

1383
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 9: I was a Chargers fan for a time because I

1384
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 9: thought Ladani and Thomason was the greatest player I'd never

1385
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 9: laid eyes on. He was so good. But you know,

1386
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 9: like I don't really hitch myself any wagon because I

1387
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 9: feel like you're you're setting yourself up for disappointment, like

1388
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 9: ninety five percent of the time. Yeah, if you cheer

1389
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 9: for one team. I mean, unlike you who's a Patriot

1390
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 9: fan who just gets to live the highs of life

1391
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 9: and you know, right.

1392
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 3: High all the time.

1393
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, imagine being like a Bills fan or

1394
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 9: like a I mean like a Jaguars fan or a

1395
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 9: Lions fan would probably.

1396
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: Be the worst of all of them.

1397
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just a year after year of just

1398
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 9: gut wrenching disappointment. I don't I don't know how people

1399
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 9: live like that.

1400
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: I can tell I'm forty three because I have a

1401
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: place in my heart for Jets fans, right Like they

1402
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: needed this quarterback Zach Wilson that they just drafted to

1403
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: be better than Mac Jones, the guy the Patriots drafted,

1404
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: and that does not appear uh to be the case.

1405
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 9: But as I tell my kid, Mike White better than Jones.

1406
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 9: Mike White, Yeah, the greatest good the ball. It reminds

1407
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 9: me of what's the name of the backup quarterback on

1408
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 9: the Bears and what he didn't not the Bears, the

1409
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 9: Browns Houston where he was throwing my four hundred yards

1410
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 9: of a game and like passing six five times. That

1411
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 9: Mike White's bringing that to the NFL. It's a lot

1412
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 9: of fun to watch.

1413
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1414
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: I just tell my kids, honey, it's just the Patriots

1415
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: have the best head coach, you know. That's what I

1416
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: just tell him about Bill Belichick. I've been ending interviews,

1417
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: like lower profile interviews during UFC two sixty eight fight week.

1418
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't admit this on the air, but I'll wrap

1419
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: up an interview and you know, Wisconsin, right, and they'll

1420
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: be like, all right, thanks for joining u. John, have

1421
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: a great call this weekend. We'll talk to you soon.

1422
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: I'll be like, thank you, guys, man, I appreciate you

1423
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: having me on. Bill Belichick's the best. We'll talk to you.

1424
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: So everybody hates him, you know, everybody hates him. It's like, okay,

1425
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, I would never have done that when I'm

1426
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: thirty three. Now I'm forty three, and I don't care

1427
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: as much, all right, rapid fire questions with my man,

1428
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Bronstead, are on the way out, all right. So

1429
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: the last time I stood on a block to do

1430
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: an interview was when I interviewed Brock Lesner at the

1431
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighter Training Center ten years ago, twenty eleven, when

1432
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: I had just started with the UFC. No, this might

1433
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: have been for MMA Live in like two thousand and

1434
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: eight or two thousand and nine. So I go up

1435
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: to do the post fight show this weekend and I

1436
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: see them going for the fucking block, you know, because

1437
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm on set with Anthony Smith, Chaal Sonnen and Michael

1438
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: Eves and they're all six foot or more. Like I'm

1439
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: not five six Rosendo Sanchez. I'm five to nine, so

1440
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm not. I have no problems with my height, like,

1441
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable with my height. Until I see them

1442
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: going for the block. I didn't accept the block. I

1443
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: looked kind of foolish on TV. I acknowledged it on

1444
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: camera because I felt like I had to have you

1445
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: ever stood on a block to interview a subject?

1446
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 9: I haven't, but I've had steep a Music's crouch down

1447
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 9: for an interview. I don't know if that counts. It

1448
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 9: was after he beat Francis and I remember this vividly

1449
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 9: because it was one of the hardest interviews I've ever

1450
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 9: had to do because while I was interviewing Stepe, blood

1451
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 9: started trickling out of his ear, like down the side

1452
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 9: of his face, and I had to not focus on

1453
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 9: that while I was talking to him. But it was

1454
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 9: just like he was smiling, He's having a good time.

1455
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 9: He had just overcome the odds. Everybody thought Francis was

1456
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 9: going to win. And he was crouching down right next

1457
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 9: to me, so his ear was I got an eye

1458
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 9: level with me. It just blood started streaming, streaming down

1459
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 9: the side of these That's why I remember that so vividly.

1460
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 9: But I have never stood on a block for an ear.

1461
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, try to avoid that fate. Steve Faie five

1462
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: to nine right, five nine, five minutes. That's why I

1463
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: wear high tops though, Like around around UFC headquarters, you know,

1464
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: get a little inch where I can all right, what

1465
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: is the city of birth on your birth certificate?

1466
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 3: Toronto?

1467
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: All right? So when so that's good? Right, because like

1468
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: sometimes people say, oh, where are you from?

1469
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 8: Right?

1470
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: You say, oh, I'm from Boston, right, and they say, oh,

1471
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: well where are you from? It's like, well, I'm from

1472
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: the Metro West area, but my birth certificate says Boston,

1473
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: Massachusetts because I was born in the nineteen seventies and

1474
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: when you lived in Natick, probably in nineteen seventy eight

1475
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: and you were having a baby, he had to go

1476
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 1: into the fucking city, the Boston lying in hospital. I

1477
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: was born in Boston, Massachusetts. I'm from fucking Boston. Kempflo

1478
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: city of birth for you.

1479
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 7: Uh, let's see, I was living in Westwood, but I

1480
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 7: think the hospital I was born might have been Boston.

1481
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's get that answer for the listenership next week.

1482
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: All right, ab worse sport to watch on television?

1483
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 9: Oh, people are probably gonna hate this answer, but it's

1484
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 9: got to be baseball. Like baseball is so boring, and

1485
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 9: I mean there are I don't know how people watch

1486
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 9: one hundred and sixty two games of baseball a year,

1487
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 9: the one game of baseball, isn't this is painful enough

1488
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 9: for me. One hundred and sixty two games people watching

1489
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Speaker 9: baseball every year?

1490
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 3: I don't.

1491
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 9: I don't know. Like the thing about MMA is it's

1492
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 9: such an add sport. There's so much going on in

1493
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 9: basketball too. Like I watched basketball, and basketball is like

1494
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 9: you go down the court, past score, go down, go

1495
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 9: down the court. Passport baseball is like we've got fourteen

1496
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 9: thousand at tennis today. Yeah, man, this this pitching, uh,

1497
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 9: this pitcher is brought by Nathan's hot Dogs and it's

1498
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 9: a seventy eight degrees outside today. That's the hardest job ever.

1499
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 9: Calling baseball. Adeo must be the most difficult because there's

1500
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 9: like a pitch every like two minutes.

1501
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: Vince, here's the line broadcaster of all time. I don't

1502
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: know how gaps without an analyst. Absolutely incredible. Yeah, I

1503
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: challenge people on the baseball front, forget an inning, forget

1504
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: a game, put your phone down watching it bat. See

1505
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: if you can get through in it bat at bat

1506
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: without looking at your cellular telephone. All right, if you

1507
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: could pick one sports team, I know you don't seem

1508
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: to have a dog in the NFL fight. You don't

1509
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: like hockey, which you shouldn't admit too loudly on the

1510
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: streets to Toronto. If you could pick one sports team

1511
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: to win a title next, who would it be?

1512
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 3: Well, the Raptor is just.

1513
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 9: One one, but they probably get the Raptors. Again, that's

1514
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 9: the only team I've really ever had any real investor

1515
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 9: is the Raptors because they they the franchise came about

1516
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 9: when I was like in my formative years, right, That's

1517
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 9: when it came to Toronto nineteen ninety five. So, uh,

1518
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 9: you know, that's really the only team I've ever had

1519
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 9: any sort of real emotional investment in, and they've won

1520
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 9: the championship recently, so I'm um happy about that. I

1521
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 9: wouldn't mid seeing Hiet another chip.

1522
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: You're good, No, I like that all right? And last question,

1523
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me which one? Do you

1524
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: have a favorite child of the three?

1525
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 3: Now?

1526
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 9: I don't do I think about it all the time.

1527
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 9: Do you ever? Do you ever have that weird Sophie's

1528
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 9: choice thing where like if somebody said, like you have

1529
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 9: to like kill one of your kids, Who's like you

1530
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 9: have to I'm going to kill one of your kids

1531
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 9: and you have to choose which one? Do you ever

1532
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 9: have that like crazy thought?

1533
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: Not that one? I mean I certainly all the time.

1534
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 9: I had it earlier today I remember and thinking like

1535
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 9: I don't know what I would do. I don't have

1536
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 9: to like kill kill me and then just kill one

1537
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 9: of them after because I wouldn't be able to live

1538
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 9: with myself. Yeah, I chose them one of them, yeah, me,

1539
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 9: And then whatever you want to do from there is

1540
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 9: up to you.

1541
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: I'll have to get back to you on that one.

1542
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: But I do have a favorite kid depending on the

1543
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: day and when you ask me, Yeah, but.

1544
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 9: That's not no, that's not a fair answer. Depending on

1545
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 9: the day, of course, Yeah, the kid that's the kid

1546
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 9: that's not giving me a hard time that day as

1547
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 9: my favorite kid, for sure.

1548
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't have.

1549
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 9: An overall favor I don't have power rankings.

1550
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 5: I do.

1551
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 3: See.

1552
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: That's the thing. And it's like, I think, but you're

1553
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: not you. You are honest right. You answered so quickly

1554
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: that even if you were hooked up to a lot

1555
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: of detective where some people would say they don't have

1556
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: a favorite kid, if you have a least favorite kid,

1557
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: or a kid that annoys you more than the other kids,

1558
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: then that means that one of them is probably a

1559
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: peg up. But it's great to have you on my man.

1560
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, let's maybe try to work you back in

1561
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: here in the not too distant future if you want

1562
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: more from Aaron Bronstetter and candidly, if you are a

1563
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 1: mixed martial arts fan, and you're not following this guy,

1564
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: the People's reporter. I don't know what you're doing. It's

1565
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: at Aaron Bronstetter, TSS and sports. Appreciate your time, brother,

1566
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: and I will see you on the road soon. Good

1567
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: to have you back there on the on the streets.

1568
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 9: Hey, my pleasure. If you want to do the Bronzetetter Minute,

1569
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 9: I'll I'll just jump on.

1570
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he took four in your minutes today, so we'll

1571
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: have to talk to him. Thank you, buddy, but he

1572
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: always me.

1573
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 9: I'll let him know I thought I see him.

1574
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 3: That's good you guys. Thank you.

1575
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Bronstetter with us on the Anakin Florian Podcast. Cody,

1576
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep crousy waiting, but we do

1577
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: have a pronunciation of the week. I should have asked

1578
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: Aaron Bronstetter about it, but I would like to get

1579
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: this man's name out there on the airwaves. Hey, Cody, Hey,

1580
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: let's up. Well, I can't go to Long Island, so

1581
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: I got plenty of time to look up pronunciations. You know,

1582
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm afraid for my life, So I believe that man.

1583
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: He's a four to MMA light heavyweight and he is

1584
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: fighting in the first fight of the night against a

1585
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: guy in dot Un Jong who has been absolutely terrific

1586
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: in the Ultimate Fighting Championship. This is the first fight

1587
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: of the night. How do you pronounce? First name Kennedy?

1588
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: Last name? Who is this four dece mma guy? I

1589
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: figured you had Kennedy down, Kennedy and Zechiku. All right,

1590
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: let's hear him say, oh Jesus Kennedy and Kennedy is true?

1591
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: Coup No. I feel like I've watched Yeah, play the change,

1592
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: just play the first one real quick. Yeah, that's it right.

1593
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: So I walked up to him and I'll never forget safe.

1594
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: So I was right there. I said Kennedy and Zechiku

1595
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, that sounds great. I'm like, yeah,

1596
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 1: but is it right? You know, forget about when he

1597
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 1: slows it down? We got that right? All right? It

1598
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: is time to make some picks and then I promise

1599
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: we will circle back to UFC two sixty eight on

1600
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: the back side. But we have got an incredible, truly

1601
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 1: incredible UFC Fight Night main event coming up this weekend.

1602
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: Let's get to the main event challenge.

1603
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge.

1604
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: Time is mosty? How do you everything possible to win?

1605
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge to John Hannick and Kenny

1606
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 4: Florian podcast.

1607
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy just making people money. I mean,

1608
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: you come on here, you make your podcast debut, your

1609
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: best bets. Bobby Green. You're about as convicted as you

1610
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: could possibly be. He's minus one seventy, right, so not

1611
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: like you're giving out some minus three hundred favorite And

1612
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: people only had to wait two and a half minutes,

1613
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: not even to cash those tickets. So, I mean, the

1614
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: floor is yours, man, Like I had my producer cut

1615
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: up the audio. We're basically just you know, getting down

1616
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: on our knees.

1617
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: Kid.

1618
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: But it's great to see you. It's you back in

1619
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: the US, and obviously you're pretty sharp. Last week.

1620
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, I feelt pretty good about that one.

1621
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1622
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 10: It's just like in everything, people need to understand that

1623
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 10: this stuff goes in waves.

1624
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 5: Right, So it's like about about two months ago for

1625
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 5: like a sixty day span, I don't think I can miss.

1626
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 10: But this last month has been a roller coaster.

1627
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 5: It's been it's been off and on, but starting last week,

1628
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 5: I think I think I think I'm out of the

1629
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 5: tunnel now, So I feel pretty good this. I will

1630
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 5: say this this card is a little tough. It's a

1631
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 5: little it's a little tough, tougher in my opinion, this

1632
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 5: last card I really I really liked. I did really well.

1633
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 5: I liked a lot of the picks. I felt good

1634
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 5: about Bobby obviously, Bobby is So I'm telling you, I

1635
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 5: fought Bobby like I know Bobby really well and I've

1636
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 5: been watching him fight for.

1637
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 10: A long time. The dude is really really fast.

1638
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 5: He's hard to hit clean, and I just feel like

1639
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 5: with uh stylistic mattered up really well against like a

1640
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 5: single shot fighter, you know what I mean, Like you

1641
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 5: got to have some good mobility and and and if

1642
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 5: you alice predominantly a boxer, and Bobby's Bobby's got really

1643
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 5: good underrated.

1644
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: Boxing, unbelievable. Last ten fights had gone the distance and

1645
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: Bobby King Green too minute, It's in twenty five seconds.

1646
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 10: I didn't see that.

1647
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 9: I didn't see that.

1648
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So Ken Flow five and two on

1649
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: the evening, if you put one hundred dollars on every

1650
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: one of ken Flow's predictions, you would have won six

1651
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. James Krause also five and two. Uh and

1652
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: if you put one hundred dollars on all of James predictions,

1653
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: he would have won five hundred and forty three dollars. So, uh,

1654
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: you guys made the listeners some money and we spent

1655
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: it forward here Miguel Baasa minus won forty five Chaos

1656
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: Williams plus one twenty five. Good welterweight match up here.

1657
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: I love both of these guys. Baeza coming off as

1658
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: first pro loss. It came to Santiago Ponzinibio. In June.

1659
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: Williams had to win over the very tough Matthew Semmelsberger

1660
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: by unanimous decision. Same month, James Krause pretty evenly priced

1661
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 1: and matched up here minus one forty five and plus

1662
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: one twenty five. You going Baasa or Chaos Williams.

1663
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 5: This is typically one of those fights, hih, I to

1664
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 5: stay away from to be honesty. Uh, And you can like,

1665
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 5: I'm curious to the line. Do you have the line

1666
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 5: on Chaos by knockout.

1667
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: We'll try to chase that for you. Sometimes the prop

1668
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: is come later in the week and by the way,

1669
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 1: we do you know favors you and Kenny making you

1670
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: make your picks on Monday.

1671
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 10: We know that, So no, it's okay. It's okay.

1672
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 5: So this is a fight where like I feel like

1673
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 5: Miguel Bisa is for sure the better fighter, but they

1674
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 5: don't call him Chaos for no reason, you know what

1675
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 5: I mean. Like the dude has just a truck of

1676
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 5: the right hand and uh so, like this would be

1677
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 5: a fight where you could go, you could go baia

1678
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 5: Asa straight up, and really the odds aren't that bad

1679
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 5: on that, you know, you could go you could you

1680
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 5: could go Bieza straight up and then you could hedge

1681
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 5: with Chaos by knockout.

1682
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 10: And I don't know the lines. I'd be really hard

1683
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 10: for me to tell you the lions.

1684
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I feel like there's a there's a small

1685
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 5: in between playing there that you're you're probably gonna win

1686
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 5: some money. I like Miguel Bisa in this fight. I'm

1687
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 5: really high on this dude. Uh He's really good, very

1688
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 5: complete fighter, good boxing. However, he can be a little hittable,

1689
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 5: which scares me against a guy like uh like Chaos Williams.

1690
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 10: So if you have a gun to my head.

1691
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick Biaza because I feel like he's the better,

1692
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 5: more complete fighter that has more tools to win this fight. However,

1693
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 5: Chaos has that right hand and he and he throws

1694
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 5: it with no load and it is it's a nightmare

1695
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 5: to come at you. So yeah, depending on what the

1696
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 5: lines are there.

1697
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 10: You know, I'm gonna go.

1698
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 3: Just for the show.

1699
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 5: I'll picked Baza, but man, I wouldn't. I don't feel

1700
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 5: great about it, you know what I mean? Like Chaos

1701
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 5: is a guy that can finish anybody.

1702
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a good handicap can flow honestly? I

1703
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: mean I can tell the listeners I would lay off.

1704
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: I would not be betting this fight under two and

1705
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: a half right now is juice to minus one twenty five.

1706
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: But the Chaos Williams knockout prop is not up at

1707
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: least right now? Can flow Baeza Williams forced to choose

1708
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: or otherwise? Which way you're going?

1709
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think that was a great breakdown. I

1710
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 7: also think Baeza has more ways to win in this

1711
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 7: fight as well.

1712
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: Right.

1713
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 7: I think he's a far superior grappler to Williams. I

1714
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 7: think that's gonna be his approach, or should be his

1715
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 7: approach in this fight. Can he strike with Williams and

1716
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 7: be technical and get some shots in? Yes, But as

1717
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 7: James said, you trade too much with someone like Williams.

1718
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 7: And if you get complacent and you stay in that

1719
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 7: poker for too long, you will be sleeping. And that's

1720
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 7: where Baeza really needs to be careful, needs to use

1721
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 7: his long range weapons in this fight. And if it

1722
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 7: does get into that close range hit, that takedown put

1723
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 7: Williams on his back.

1724
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: So I like Baeza here as well. I see a

1725
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: lot of potential in this kid, all right. Next up

1726
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: in Middleway, Kyle Doccas minus two twenty five Roman d'lidze

1727
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: stepping in here plus one eighty five Doacas one and

1728
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: two of the no contests in the UFC kind of

1729
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 1: seems a little bit unfair given how well at times

1730
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: he has fought two tough guys here. I know that

1731
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: maybe isn't saying much in the UFC, but these guys

1732
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 1: are both really tough and have proven as much. This

1733
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 1: was gonna be the Dacas Holland rematch, It'll be Delyidzay

1734
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: instead James. He's not in one overall, coming off a

1735
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: win over low Riano star BILLI in June, so I

1736
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: thought Doccas would be minus one seventy five. Like I

1737
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: write down what I think the odds are going to

1738
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: be beforehand, he's minus two twenty five. I think that's pricey.

1739
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: What do you make of this fight? And ultimately which

1740
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: way you're going?

1741
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: Man, you just hit it round on the head. If

1742
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 5: you're asking me who who I'm picking to win the fight,

1743
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 5: I like Doacas for sure, But I do think it's

1744
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 5: a little I think it's a little expensive here. Once again,

1745
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 5: I know the props come out a little bit later,

1746
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 5: but I like the over in this fight. Both these

1747
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 5: guys are really really good grapplers. I don't see either

1748
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 5: one of these they're both of them favor the grappling.

1749
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 5: Both of them have really good striking as well, but

1750
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 5: I think both of them are slightly better grapplers than

1751
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 5: they are strikers.

1752
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: And I do see this.

1753
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 5: I do see this being a grappling match to to

1754
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 5: some degree. I don't think either one of them is

1755
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 5: going to submit the other.

1756
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 10: So I like the over in this one.

1757
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 5: To ping on what the price is, But if you're

1758
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 5: asking me who I'm picking, I'm for sure picking Doccas.

1759
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 5: But if you're asking me if I like the line,

1760
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 5: the answer is absolutely not. I think I definitely think

1761
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 5: you're right on that I think it's a little overpriced.

1762
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: Kemp Flow, Daccas de Lidsey, Which way you going? It's

1763
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: interesting to let's say, has a very similar background to me.

1764
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: He played soccer than when it too jiu jitsu that

1765
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 1: started his mm A career around twenty eight years old.

1766
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 7: So you know, I could definitely cheer for him. But

1767
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 7: I do like Dawcas here as well. I think he's

1768
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 7: a little bit clear with the striking, you know.

1769
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: I think the experience factor you got to count that

1770
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: as well. So I like talking here all right? Comin

1771
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: event at heavyweight, we'll take a round in a method

1772
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 1: of victory, if you'd be so kind. Ben Rothwell minus

1773
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: one fifty, Marcos Jerio de Lima plus one thirty, the

1774
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: King of Kenosha is thirty nine and thirteen in mixed

1775
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: martial arts. I know James Kross respects that total. He's

1776
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: won three of his last four pays out counters, having

1777
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: alternated wins and losses spanning his last ten. Last time

1778
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: out looked pretty good over fifteen minutes against the crochet

1779
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: Boss Mary Screen co headliner Rothwell Delima. Which way you're going, James.

1780
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 10: I gotta go Rothwell here? I I'll be honest, I didn't.

1781
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 10: If I remember right.

1782
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 5: Rothwell's last fight is against Barnett, who just fought this

1783
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 5: last weekend, the spring wheel kick against Vlante.

1784
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1785
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 5: I didn't really like the way he looked against Barnett.

1786
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 5: I know Barnett's a deceivingly athletic, but I didn't think

1787
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 5: he looked great in that fight. Now when it hit

1788
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 5: the ground, Rothwell's grappling is pretty underrated in my opinion,

1789
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,879
Speaker 5: and I think that'll be the difference here. Roswell decides

1790
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 5: to decides to fight him smart. I think the grappling

1791
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 5: will make a big difference. I don't think Delma's gonna

1792
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 5: be able to get Rothwell out. Rothwell super durable, very

1793
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 5: very tough to submit, very very tough to knock out.

1794
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 5: I just see I see Rothwell outlasting Dalima here. I'm

1795
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 5: gonna go Rothwell by decision. I think he's got more

1796
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 5: ways to win. He's more well rounded, uh and his

1797
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 5: cardio is better. Rothwell's one of those guys that has

1798
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 5: just made a living off of He's He just hangs around,

1799
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 5: you know, and he'll get He'll beat a lot of

1800
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 5: heavyweights just by hanging around.

1801
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 10: You know, and he's he's tough.

1802
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 5: You guys, remember his fight against Junior Dos Santos. Do

1803
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 5: Santos beat the mess out of him, and he's not

1804
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 5: gonna go away. You're gonna have to knock him like,

1805
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to put him, you know, send him

1806
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 5: to the shadow rum to get him out of there.

1807
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 5: But he I just don't see Delima being able to

1808
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 5: do that. I think I think Rothwell is gonna hang

1809
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 5: around and find a way to win the rounds.

1810
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: Speaking of hanging around, Ken Foil, you called a lot

1811
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: of pays OUs early fights at the UFC. This guy

1812
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 1: knows how to hang around. I say that with all

1813
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: due respect. Still looking for that signature win and the

1814
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: two fight winning streak that's gonna get him to sort

1815
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: of divisional relevance. But he's getting the co main event showcase.

1816
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: He's getting his face on the poster or maybe not

1817
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: given this main event. But who do you have in Comaine,

1818
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: ken flump Well? Listen. I think this is a terrific

1819
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: opportunity for Marcus Jigeri Delima to get a win over

1820
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: a true veteran in Rothwell, and you know, get get

1821
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: some people behind him. But I just don't see it happening.

1822
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 1: I agree with James here, can't go the other way.

1823
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 7: I think that Ben his experience, his ability to kind

1824
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 7: of survive and bring it into the grappling realm, I think.

1825
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: Is going to be the difference here. I could see

1826
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: him getting a TKO here. You know, I need some

1827
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: extra points. I'll go with the t KO. Let's go

1828
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: TKO round three.

1829
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 7: I think it will take him a little bit to

1830
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 7: get it done, but I do see a weakness there

1831
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 7: in Delima's game, So let's go with Ben Rothwell TKO.

1832
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 7: Maybe he gets them on the ground and pounds him out.

1833
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather kiss my sister than let Ben

1834
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 1: Rothwell put his hands around my neck for some my

1835
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: fucking go go checkers, JESU.

1836
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 10: What about that Tim finger. He's got a nasty tin

1837
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 10: thing he does. Yeah, exactly nasty.

1838
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1839
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I would like die. All right, Main event.

1840
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for this main event minus five ninety

1841
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 1: James on Maxway, I mean, can we put some respect

1842
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: on Yaire Rodriguez at plus four twenty five? All right,

1843
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: so a little bit of history for you before we

1844
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: get your predictions. Last fight for yeah year if my

1845
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: research is accurately. Jeremy Stevens twenty nineteen, he had this

1846
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: upbeat Mago madsh to RePOP fight go away. Then there

1847
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: was like a USADA whereabouts form issue that resulted in

1848
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,839
Speaker 1: the suspension. So that's part of the handicap, certainly the layoff.

1849
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: There's no doubt Max Holloway. I'll just say, as somebody

1850
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: who has called fights for ten years for the UFC,

1851
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: what he did against Calvin Cator without a recency bias

1852
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: in January is the singular greatest performance that I've seen

1853
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: on the feet live from that seat. Just a historically

1854
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: great performance, and I think that is also reflected in

1855
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: the price here. But minus five ninety is crazy given

1856
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: yeah year's ability. What do you have for us, James

1857
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: on the on the main event, Well, I.

1858
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 5: Mean, if you're anybody not named Alex Volkanowski, it's really

1859
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 5: really tough for me to bet on you against Max Holloway.

1860
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 10: I mean even if your name is Alex Orsonosia.

1861
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 5: I mean, Matt Max is incredible, man, I mean, he's

1862
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 5: he's amazing, you know, uh.

1863
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: And I.

1864
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 10: Don't see, yeah, you're winning this fight.

1865
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

1866
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 10: However, five ninety is absolutely absurd.

1867
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 5: So you know, I think I think from a from

1868
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 5: a betting perspective, we were trying to find value, right

1869
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 5: and once again we don't know the lines right now,

1870
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 5: but I do feel like if you guys remember the

1871
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 5: fight with uh KZ against h Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah,

1872
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 5: you're knock him out. But if you remember right before that,

1873
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 5: Casey was on his way to to winning a you

1874
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 5: know he was gonna win a decision. I feel like

1875
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 5: it was pretty decisive. Uh he was landing and was

1876
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 5: fining the punches. And we're talking about Max Holloway. Listen,

1877
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 5: if you're gonna fight Max hollow he's gonna find you. Like,

1878
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 5: he's gonna hit you. That's he's one of the best

1879
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 5: elite in the world.

1880
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: He is going to hit you.

1881
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 10: It's not a matter of if or what he's gonna

1882
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 10: find you.

1883
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 5: He's gonna find you, right, So like, yeah, you're just

1884
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 5: gets hit a little hit hit a little too much

1885
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 5: for my comfort. So for me, the value play is

1886
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 5: gonna be in in uh In Holloway by TKO or knockout.

1887
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 5: I think that's gonna be late. You know, it's over

1888
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 5: the course of five rounds. Holloway is is the king

1889
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 5: of five rounds. I mean, his tank doesn't go anywhere.

1890
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 5: If anything, he picks up.

1891
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 10: I like this Max by t k Oh.

1892
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 5: Once again, it's all about value. So depending on where

1893
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 5: we where we find lines at. I don't see this

1894
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 5: going the distance.

1895
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: I don't uh.

1896
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 5: And and maybe even if we see something crazy like

1897
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 5: yeah you're by knockout, probably not gonna happen.

1898
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 10: But man, if the odds are plus.

1899
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 5: Two thousand and might we're sprinkling something in on you know, uh,

1900
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 5: because that's what we're trying to do, right. It's not

1901
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 5: necessarily about who we think is gonna win and lose.

1902
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 5: Is about trying to find value. And I'm not I'm

1903
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 5: not putting minus five ninety on Max Holloway here. It's

1904
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 5: just that that line just doesn't make sense to me.

1905
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 5: So I gotta try and I gotta try and find

1906
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 5: value elsewhere. I don't think this fight is going five rounds.

1907
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 5: So for me, I'll probably look at that Holloway by TKO.

1908
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 5: I might even look at yeah You're by TKO, just

1909
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 5: to just to see if you know what the what

1910
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 5: the line is on it. So it's all about value

1911
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 5: for me here, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Max

1912
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 5: by Tko.

1913
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, if you're looking at Yao Rodriguez inside

1914
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: the distance even you're probably getting it at plus eight

1915
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: hundred plus nine hundred or so. And I will talk

1916
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: to our friends at DraftKings and try to see if

1917
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: I can get you some of those numbers, knowing that

1918
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: we do our show early on Monday. Because you're right, Uh,

1919
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: for a lot of people attacking this fight from a

1920
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: betting standpoint, Uh, I mean it's always good.

1921
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 10: To hedge, right, Like, if if y'aure wins this fight,

1922
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 10: how is it gonna win?

1923
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: Right, right, he's gonna win.

1924
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 5: By not He's not gonna be Max Alloway in the decision.

1925
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 5: I think we're minutes right, yeah, right, So if we

1926
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 5: can if we can put one hundred bucks down on

1927
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 5: on yeah, yere at plus two thousand hundred to win

1928
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 5: two thousand, it might be worth hedging on the other

1929
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 5: side to get that.

1930
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 10: Is it gonna happen?

1931
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 5: Probably not, But you can almost guarantee yourself some money

1932
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 5: won here if you go Halloway. I don't even know

1933
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 5: about Holloway straight up, I just don't. For me, it's

1934
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 5: Halloway by TKO. Yeah, you're by TKO. That's the way

1935
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 5: you would play it if you want to hedge both sides.

1936
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know the lines yet, so obviously

1937
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 5: we need to see the value here. But I don't

1938
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 5: see yeah, you're winning five rounds or Max Holloway. I

1939
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 5: just don't see it happening.

1940
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Kempler, what do you think about this main event? Back

1941
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: to the little ufc apex this weekend? Who do you have? Yeah?

1942
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: Did James give a round and that one yet? Do

1943
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: you have a round?

1944
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1945
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 10: No, I didn't. Let's go uh four?

1946
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1947
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 3: All right?

1948
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 7: So all right, well we're thinking on the same way

1949
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 7: for this fight. Listen, I agree with a lot what

1950
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 7: James said. I think that as far as Holloway goes,

1951
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 7: he's as durable as they come. I think Yahy has

1952
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 7: shown a lot of toughness as well. Right, Uh, I

1953
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 7: think you got to watch out first seven minutes, so

1954
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 7: it's YAYI Rodriguez man, He's willing to throw anything and

1955
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 7: everything at you.

1956
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: So Halloway is gonna have to be have to be careful,

1957
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: no doubt early in this fight. But Holloway has seen

1958
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things out there, and when he does

1959
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 1: his homework and his preparation over the last few years

1960
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: have been pretty perfect for the most part. You know,

1961
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: his rematch against Bolkonowski and Cater and all those things.

1962
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: His ability to stay busy.

1963
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 7: There's not a whole lot of people that are going

1964
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 7: to have the conditioning and output that Holloway can put

1965
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 7: on you. His mental toughness, his chin, everything is just

1966
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 7: so damn impressive. He's improved as a grappler.

1967
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: You can't really take the kid down, and even on

1968
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: the ground, he's able to get back to his feet

1969
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: or be dangerous there as well.

1970
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 7: So for yeah, year, this is a very tough fight,

1971
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 7: and this would be a huge statement if he's able

1972
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 7: to beat Holloway. Can he get it done? I don't

1973
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 7: think so at this stage. I think listen, now, here's

1974
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 7: the other thing. A lot can happen in two years

1975
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 7: and some change. Okay, you know, a lot could happen. Maybe, Yeah,

1976
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 7: he's been putting in a lot of work and he

1977
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 7: just comes out a completely different fighter.

1978
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: That is feasible. That as possible. But again, someone like

1979
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: Max Holloway, who was stayed active, I just don't see

1980
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: it happening. I like Holloway here as well, let's go

1981
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: with a fifth round t Q, just to be a

1982
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: little bit different. I was eyeing that fourth round as well,

1983
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think that's where the value is.

1984
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 7: Halloway could very well go out there and win a decision,

1985
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 7: but I don't see too many people beating beating Halloway

1986
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 7: by decision these days, so.

1987
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 1: I agree with James.

1988
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 10: There.

1989
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: James, you're back on the road this weekend. When's your

1990
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: next wheels up?

1991
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 10: Of course are Thursday. Yeah, I have two guys on

1992
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 10: Dan West looking.

1993
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 3: For a fight.

1994
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: All right, my man, Well, safe travels. We appreciate you

1995
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: squeezing us in and we will talk to you next week.

1996
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 10: Brother, Thank you, guys, appreciate it your work.

1997
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Dude there he is on social media at the James Krous.

1998
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying you two going head to head and

1999
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,560
Speaker 1: we're going to figure out the scoring system and all that.

2000
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: I do like kind of the way we did it

2001
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: last week, where essentially basically you don't have to think

2002
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: about where you're putting your money right like and again,

2003
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 1: if people have feedback for our scoring system at Anti

2004
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: Florin Pop, but you don't have to determine I'm putting

2005
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks on this guy. Right, We're just gonna

2006
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: take your bets and put one hundred dollars on them,

2007
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: you know, straight or whatever. And that's a good idea.

2008
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 3: I like that.

2009
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, So all right, before we get out of here,

2010
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: just a few final thoughts on UFC two sixty eight.

2011
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Shane Burgos really needed to win. I think Billy Corntello

2012
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: proved that he can hang with the top fifteen. This

2013
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: is a heartbreaking loss for Billy Q because you know,

2014
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: I do think Shane Burgos, at least right now, is

2015
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: the better fighter, and I think Billy Q thought going

2016
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 1: in that he was the better fighter. And Billy Q

2017
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 1: has every skill in the book and great cardio and

2018
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 1: everything else. I just think Burgos came on too strong.

2019
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have anything for us on

2020
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: that fight before we gets to Cheeto, but I'm happy

2021
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: for both guys. I'm happy for Burgos you get to

2022
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: win a three fight, losing streak would have been real

2023
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: tough for him. And I'm happy that Billy Q proved

2024
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: that he has a chance to be some you know,

2025
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: there's no question about it.

2026
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 7: You know, I liked Burgos in this fight because I

2027
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 7: did feel that he was a little bit cleaner as

2028
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 7: a striker, a little bit more refined, and.

2029
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: I think that was that was pretty evident in this fight.

2030
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 1: But you know, this is one of those fights. You know,

2031
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 1: it's cliche to say, Listen, Burgos got the decision, but

2032
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: billy Q did not lose this fight. Okay.

2033
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 7: He's a guy who has showed so much heart in

2034
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 7: his fights and again put it on full display at

2035
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 7: MSG in front of a lot of his fans.

2036
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: And it was an awesome fight. He's got some work

2037
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: to do as far as refining his grappling, especially in

2038
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: regards to his takedowns and some of his striking. He

2039
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: gets himself off balance and stuff, but that's also what

2040
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: makes him so chaotic and so dangerous as well. So

2041
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: if billy Q can find some kind of happy medium

2042
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,879
Speaker 1: with that, I still think he's got so much potential

2043
01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: in that just very very difficult division. So I thought

2044
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: it was impressive that he was able to get it

2045
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: done in the manner that he did, because billy Q

2046
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: would have taken out a lot of guys ranked higher

2047
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: than Burgos in there just from his pacing, his conditioning

2048
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: in those shots that he was throwing.

2049
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 7: But Burgos is an animal, a big win. Billy Q

2050
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 7: will get right back on track.

2051
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: I think he'll make those improvements and prove that he's

2052
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: one of the toughest dudes in the UFC period. Man.

2053
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: That dude's a honey badger.

2054
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 3: Man.

2055
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: I love both of those guys, I really absolutely, I

2056
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: mean Boston bias aside, No, I really like these New Yorkers, man,

2057
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Like I got a place in my hat for both

2058
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: of them as human beings and fighters and really happy

2059
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: to see them put on a show inside Madison Square Garden.

2060
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: All rightovera over, FRANKI, Edgar what a front kick, right,

2061
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean shades of Anderson Silva against Detour Bellfort for me.

2062
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: You know, some might suggest he was playing with his

2063
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: food a little bit, FRANKI, Edgar was having a lot

2064
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: of success early on in this fight, and this fight

2065
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: was admitted in ten seconds from evaporating, and it could

2066
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: have well been twenty nine to twenty eight. Edgar, I

2067
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 1: kind of felt like Cheetoh was gonna find the finishing shot.

2068
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 1: He is a violent motherfucker. He reaches out to Camfo.

2069
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: But you know, like I don't know, I think there's

2070
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: a lot to learn from Cheeto here there, these three

2071
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: round fights can get away from you. You know, like

2072
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 1: all well and good. Right, he gets the bonus check

2073
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: and he gets Frankie's ranking and everything else. But at

2074
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: least on the Cheeto side, I think there's room for growth.

2075
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: What'd you make of Cheeto's highlight real win over Frankie

2076
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: over the weekend? You know, we talked about this Cheeto

2077
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 1: can get off to a late start in his fights,

2078
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: and I think that was the case here yet again

2079
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 1: against Frankie Edgar, who on the other side, gets off

2080
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: to a good start more often than not. And Frankie

2081
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:46,759
Speaker 1: was looking good and then Cheeto just continued to press forward,

2082
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: and both because of Cheeto and his style, but also

2083
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: perhaps because of Frankie and some of the hesitancy that

2084
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 1: I've seen a little bit later in his career. Unfortunately,

2085
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 1: you got the sense for Frankie that it was going

2086
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 1: to happen at some point, Like a lot of those

2087
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: exchanges in the second round, third round, you just you

2088
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 1: felt like there was this car crash that.

2089
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 7: Was happening, and when it came, it wasn't so much

2090
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 7: of a surprise in a way. And I hate to

2091
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 7: say that because I'm such a huge fan of Frankie

2092
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 7: and a guy who came from my era and you know,

2093
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 7: wanted to see him do well here as he gets,

2094
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 7: you know, into the latter part of his career. But

2095
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 7: Cheeto is is just a hungry savage who continues to

2096
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 7: get better. And you know, he's just a guy that

2097
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 7: was finding success on the feet with those long range

2098
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 7: strikes and then in tight was making the adjustments with

2099
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 7: knees and short uppercuts and short shots and you know,

2100
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 7: kept pursuing the finish and ultimately it came when he

2101
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 7: needed it. So yeah, I thought Frankie had a good,

2102
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 7: solid performance, but Cheeto was just a little bit too much.

2103
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: And this was a huge win for Cheeto. Man.

2104
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 7: He continues to impress and he's someone to watch in

2105
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 7: that division and someone who could definitely fight for the

2106
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 7: belt in the future.

2107
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: He's such a good guy, you know. I know, in

2108
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: looking to my left, I know I saw UFC President

2109
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: Dana White was like, what was that all about? Wh

2110
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 1: Chiato gave Frankie the finger? You know, he flipped him

2111
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: the bird after the round, And I think that's just

2112
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: Cheeto trying to sort of you know, like he's in

2113
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: the moment, trying to get himself go like he's real,

2114
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean, as you do the test, like he's a

2115
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: really good dude and has the ultimate respect, but he's

2116
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: in a test guy, right, no doubt about it. Yeah,

2117
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: And obviously, like you know, not that his careers at stake,

2118
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: but like his careers, as you know, I thought it

2119
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: was a very interesting fight. Obviously, there are some things

2120
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: to discuss on the Frankie Edgar side. You know, I'm

2121
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 1: not in the business of retiring fighters. His ability to

2122
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: take a shot, to me, certainly seems compromised. That's a

2123
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: shot that I think would have filled lesser fighters too.

2124
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: But when I think about the rallies against Gray Maynard

2125
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: and the eight hours in the octagon, you know, I

2126
01:35:58,560 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: do think a lot of people are going to be

2127
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: calm for Frankie Edgar to not you know, get kicked

2128
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: in the face by bones anymore. So, I don't know.

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01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what your thoughts are on Frankie at forty,

2130
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: in this stage of his career, but you know, if

2131
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: it was the last one, you know, he's going to

2132
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, what do you think.

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01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think that he has had a lot

2134
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 7: of fights, and I don't care who you are. I

2135
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 7: don't care how tough you are, whether you're a heavyweight

2136
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 7: or a flyweight, whatever it is, this fight, this fight

2137
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 7: game can definitely get the better of you. Okay, the

2138
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 7: longer you stick around, the more it's going to take

2139
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,719
Speaker 7: its toll on you, physically, mentally, spiritually, all that stuff.

2140
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 7: So Frankie was a guy that was known for his durability,

2141
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 7: and I think we're starting to see that get taken

2142
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 7: away from him. And you know, a legend like that,

2143
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 7: he's had an amazing career. He could have stopped a

2144
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 7: few years ago and you know he would be applauded

2145
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 7: as one of the best to do it.

2146
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: He could still do that. I just don't.

2147
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 7: I hate to see a guy like that and see

2148
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 7: his legacy tarnished. And sometimes fighters can go a little

2149
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 7: bit too long. And you know, maybe it's not that

2150
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 7: stage just yet. That is for something for Frankie and

2151
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 7: his team to decide on. But yeah, we're certainly seeing,

2152
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 7: you know, Frankie slow down at this point and whatever

2153
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 7: happens moving forward, this is a guy that has been

2154
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 7: such a joy to watch, one of the best fighters

2155
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 7: that I've seen compete as far as when the lights

2156
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 7: shine brightest, this kid would turn on and deliver some

2157
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 7: of the best performances I've ever seen. And this was,

2158
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 7: you know, one of the guys when I was coming up,

2159
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 7: that was the little engine that could right right and

2160
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 7: just you know, upset so many people out there and

2161
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 7: accomplish so much in this sport. Just amazing and not

2162
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 7: all that far removed from a win over a top

2163
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 7: ten guy in Pedro Muno's right, and there are matchups

2164
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 7: that are less violent than Chiato Vera in that top fifteen.

2165
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 7: Frank He's not going to stick around to fight the

2166
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 7: number twenty five rank guy in the world. But I

2167
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,560
Speaker 7: just think he's such a competitor that I would be

2168
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 7: very surprised if that is the last time we see

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01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 7: him in a combat sports setting. I'm just saying, I

2170
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 7: think you're getting one more Frankie Edgar fight at some

2171
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 7: point in time. All Right, I'm gonna rip through some

2172
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,520
Speaker 7: of these other results can flow. Alex Paeda over Andreas Mikhailitis.

2173
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 7: Joe Rogan is just frothing at the mouth when Alex

2174
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 7: Paeda is walking. Having watched his entire kickboxing career.

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01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: If you don't know. He does have two head to

2176
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: head wins over Israel Lota Sogna in a kickboxing realm.

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Speaker 1: We weren't going to overplay that on the broadcast per se.

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01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: That wasn't a directive from the UFC. We don't get

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01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: any directives from the UFC in terms of fighter content. Okay, folks,

2180
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, just for starters. But we didn't play too

2181
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: much into that. He's the only man I believe to

2182
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 1: knock out Israel lot of Soignia in kickboxing. I had

2183
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: a very credential martial artists say to me, is there

2184
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: a lot of sign he's not gonna want to stand

2185
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 1: in trade with this dude in an octagon. What are

2186
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Padata's UFC debut and what do you

2187
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: think like he got challenged from in the grappling world

2188
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. I thought it was all good things

2189
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: for Padata. I thought it was a perfect UFC debut.

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01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think that you know the Greek fighter there,

2191
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 7: militis am I saying that right, Michealiitis was doing his

2192
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 7: best to try to bring it into his realm and

2193
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 7: put Pareda on his back, and I was impressed with

2194
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 7: the way Paeda responded, you know, he did a good

2195
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 7: job of keeping his base, getting back to his feet,

2196
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 7: and you know made the proper adjustments in a round two.

2197
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Speaker 1: Paeda just did what he does.

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01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 7: That double knee has has worked for him a lot

2199
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 7: over the course of his kickboxing career. He's long, he's lanky,

2200
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 7: he hits extremely hard. You think you're out of reach

2201
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 7: and he finds way to get to your chin and

2202
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 7: you're sleeping, You're asking what happened in the fight. And

2203
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 7: I think Padaeda is gonna going to continue to surprise

2204
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 7: a lot of people in the UFC.

2205
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: That's a very tough matchup. I think he's with a

2206
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 1: good team.

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01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 7: I think if he continues to work on his grappling,

2208
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 7: his wrestling, his ability to get back to his feet.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be a problem. And we could have

2210
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: that showdown between him and out of Sonya uh, which

2211
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: would be a huge fight. Padaeda is going to be

2212
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 1: a huge fan pleaser.

2213
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 7: And yeah, I thought this was a good test for

2214
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 7: him because he he did have a battle, he did

2215
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 7: have to battle back. We did see a test of

2216
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 7: his grappling skills. So uh, Padata is an absolute savage

2217
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 7: and I think we're going to see more him. Uh,

2218
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 7: are more exciting fights from him?

2219
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: Now, I don't watch a lot of kickboxing. You're not

2220
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: allowed to use elbows in that sport, is that correct?

2221
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: And glory Yeah? And glory kickboxing, Yeah, you weren't able

2222
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 1: to throw elbows. Yeah, all right, So Alex Padeda is

2223
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 1: probably going to reach out to Ken Flow to figure

2224
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: out exactly how to open up you hear the shout out,

2225
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs me, dude, he's about of

2226
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: course I did, and of course you're the man. Dude

2227
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 1: managed to shout out you and Brian stand this week.

2228
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 1: Hell yeah Ghost Glover to share though, And if you

2229
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: don't know, Alex Paeda lives in Danbury, Connecticut and trains

2230
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: with Glover to Share and has been in Danbury I

2231
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: think for about eighteen months, even though he's worked for

2232
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: Glover far longer than that. But Glover stopped the Fighter

2233
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: meeting essentially to say like, this guy has a lot

2234
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 1: of physical strength in the grappling world, Like he picks

2235
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 1: up things very quickly there. And I think there are

2236
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: some really encouraging signs in terms of what Padata is

2237
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: gonna do on the ground and I will say in

2238
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: terms of Joe Rogan's enthusiasm, unless I'm repeating myself, he

2239
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 1: was excited about Go Kansaki too, but not to this degree.

2240
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: You know, did I just say that a minute ago?

2241
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,759
Speaker 1: All right? So a few other preblems that I wanted

2242
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: to get to hear. Chris Curtis one of the biggest

2243
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 1: underdogs on the card over Phil Hawes. You know, Phil

2244
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: Hawes had the opportunity to fight this guy in twenty

2245
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: four hours notice. And I don't know if karma is

2246
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: the right word, but a lot of us were surprised

2247
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 1: when Phil Hawes didn't take that fight. And Phil said

2248
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: at his media scrum this week, you know, I want

2249
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 1: to be a world champion. I want to watch film

2250
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,839
Speaker 1: on this guy. I don't want to do anything hastily

2251
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 1: in my quest to become a world champion. And he

2252
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: also said, you know, I don't want to just take

2253
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 1: this guy down for fifteen minutes and win the fight

2254
01:41:54,960 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: that way. Uh yikes, Right, So gonna be hard to

2255
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: become a world champion when you lose as a six

2256
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 1: to one favorite here against Chris Curtis. And I say

2257
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: that with all due respect, like I really do like

2258
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: Phil Hawes. I still think the ceiling's high. I love

2259
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: the camp. Returns are very good coming out of that camp.

2260
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: But you know, he said, I want Chris to like

2261
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 1: perseverate over the Phil Hawes film and whatever else. And

2262
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: Phil Hawes with Sean Strickland, excuse me, Chris Curtis with

2263
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 1: Sean Strickland in his corner, just was like, you know what,

2264
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 1: I'm going to take advantage of this opportunity. I'm gonna,

2265
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, pro caution the wind a little bit. Once

2266
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 1: he got going, he didn't miss, and Hawes paid the

2267
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 1: ultimate price.

2268
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 7: So I was texting my buddy while this fight was

2269
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 7: going on, and I said, Phil Hawes has really improved

2270
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 7: his striking. He's throwing good straight punches, he's putting together

2271
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 7: really good combinations. But he's keeping his head, you know,

2272
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 7: right in that pocket there. He's not moving it off

2273
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 7: the center line. He's just leaving it hanging out there.

2274
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 7: And you know, if Curtis goes and throws a shot

2275
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 7: down the middle, it's gonna be trouble. And sure enough,

2276
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 7: that's exactly what Curtis did, landed a huge shot, took

2277
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 7: Hawes out of there. Hawes has so much potential man,

2278
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 7: you you could you could see it for a long time.

2279
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,799
Speaker 7: He is getting better, but that was a major mistake

2280
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 7: and and this is something that I hope he learns from,

2281
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 7: uh and rectifies, because yeah, it was just a major mistake.

2282
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 7: And yeah, and you and you could also argue, hey,

2283
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 7: why wouldn't you trying to take him down more? You know,

2284
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 7: it seemed like he was disengaging from the wrestling, should

2285
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 7: have been using that wrestling a little bit more. But

2286
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 7: either way, I think he found out that he's got

2287
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 7: a big, uh, you know thing he's got to fix there.

2288
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 7: And this was a huge upset win for Curtis and

2289
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 7: uh yeah, kind of back to the drawing board.

2290
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 1: A little bit. But I do think Hawes's potential is high.

2291
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: I do think he can learn from this and and

2292
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: move up the rankings yet again. And how good do

2293
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: you feel for Chris Curtis. I know he was not

2294
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 1: one of these six bonus winners for performance a good

2295
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 1: guy winners, but he took him ten years, thirty five

2296
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: fights to get to the UFC. And you know he

2297
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 1: had some I mean you could did you call any

2298
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 1: of his PFL fights or no?

2299
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:57,560
Speaker 3: No?

2300
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 1: So he fought Mago Ma Karapov a way back in

2301
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, sorry, you got it? Yeah yeah. In

2302
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 1: PFL No and Ray Cooper the first I believe, And

2303
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: he fought along Muhammad way back in Indiana in twenty fourteen.

2304
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 1: And when he was on the Contender series Chris Curtis

2305
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, had a win, a finish, thought he

2306
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: was getting a deal, didn't get one. Goes home talking

2307
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 1: to his son, who was like a few weeks old

2308
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: when he made his pro debut and was like, dude,

2309
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: I think I got to retire. His son was like, Dad,

2310
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I told this on the broadcast,

2311
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: but I think you're in commercials, Like, Dad, what are

2312
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: you gonna do? And his Dad's like, yeah, shit, you're right, son,

2313
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 1: I think I'll keep fighting, you know. And I'm so

2314
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: glad he was able to realize that moment. And it's

2315
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: about a lot more than just the the UFC fight

2316
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: kit for for Chris Curtis. But was it Kenneth Capella?

2317
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: You were texting your buddy, Kenneth, He's probably always I

2318
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: owe an apology too for you know, a lot of

2319
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: people were commenting on my post about kamzat Chimayev. And

2320
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 1: you know, I do think there's some selective listening going on.

2321
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: And you know, just because I say one thing about

2322
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Kamzat Chimaya, I'm not making any statement about Leon Edwards

2323
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: and his promocion. You know, I've said Leon Edwards is

2324
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: worthy of a tire shot. Colby Covington I thought was

2325
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: worthy of a welchweight championship opportunity. But if poorge mosfied,

2326
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 1: I'll beat Leon Edwards. You know, it's not as though

2327
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: there are a million options for Usman, And it's not

2328
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: as though there are a million options for Kamzat Chimaya.

2329
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 1: And Uri Prohaska is two and ower in the UFC

2330
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,560
Speaker 1: and getting a championship opportunity. So data doesn't seem to

2331
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 1: have an appetite for Chiaya getting a title fight. I

2332
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 1: certainly think chi Maia should have to test himself in

2333
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: a main event setting against Gilbert Burns or Vicente Luke.

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Speaker 1: I was asking everybody on the ground, if you were

2335
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Speaker 1: the promoter, what fight would you make for Chimaya right

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01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 1: and nobody could give me an answer right away, But

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01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 1: after some thought, well thought answers mostly were Vicente Luke

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01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: versus Kamzat Chimaya. So maybe that's the fight. Maybe Gilbert

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01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 1: Burns is the fight, you know, I don't know. It's

2340
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. I'd like to see somebody in there

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01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 1: that I think can deal with the physicality and the

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01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 1: strength uh in the grappling world.

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Speaker 7: But we'll you know, yeah listen, And that's why I

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01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 7: like both of those options. I like the Gilbert Burns option.

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01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 7: I think Vezzetti Luke would be another tremendous fight as well.

2346
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 7: And if he goes health there and delivers another dominant

2347
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 7: performance like what can you say, you know, and all

2348
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 7: of his training partners saying the right things, but yeah,

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01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 7: I think he needs I want to see him in

2350
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 7: that big fight against a dude who has a ton

2351
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 7: of experience, you know, a top five guy, because I

2352
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 7: also think it's going to set himself up, it's going

2353
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 7: to set Hamzat to.

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01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Be that much more successful in the future. So again,

2355
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: a lot of potential in that dude, and a lot

2356
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 1: more exciting fights on the web for sure. All Right,

2357
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 1: if you had to send one welterweight in the world

2358
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: in there to beat Kamara Usman with a full training camp, right,

2359
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 1: the question beckons who would you send in there?

2360
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 3: Now?

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01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 1: I still think after what we saw this weekend, that

2362
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 1: a certain percentage of people would take Colby Covington right

2363
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 1: because they know he can take a beating, and even

2364
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 1: though we saw a gap in overall skill that he's

2365
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 1: been able to last almost ten rounds with the man.

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01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: I do believe if you pulled the fan base, though,

2367
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 1: and they had to send one man in there, you'd

2368
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: get some votes for wonder Boy, you'd get some votes

2369
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: for maybe Luke or whatever. I do think most people

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01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 1: would send kamzat Chimaya in there to like save a

2371
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 1: dog's life, if they had to send one welterweight in

2372
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 1: there to beat Usman. However he is in the rankings,

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01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 1: I think most.

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Speaker 7: Absolute Well, listen, you're bringing up a good point, right

2375
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 7: because I agree why because of his wrestling number one right,

2376
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:37,719
Speaker 7: that's like the one guy who could potentially out wrestle Uzman.

2377
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 7: He's got the size, Uh, he has power in his

2378
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 7: hands as well, So I think more than anything else,

2379
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 7: there's two things.

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Speaker 1: Does he have the skills, does he have the background? Absolutely?

2381
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: Does he deserve it? You know, I don't know because

2382
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: here's the thing.

2383
01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 7: Welter Wait, is a different division than say two hundred

2384
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 7: five pounds two hundred five pounds a little bit more.

2385
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 7: They don't have as many guys. There's so many guys

2386
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:05,640
Speaker 7: that are hanging around. But yeah, so I think as

2387
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 7: far as what he's accomplished, does he deserve it?

2388
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 5: No?

2389
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 1: Does he have the skills to absolutely go out there

2390
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: and do it? In conversations, and I.

2391
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 7: Would agree with you if there's one guy you're like, listen, yeah,

2392
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 7: to say a dog's life that could beat usman skill

2393
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 7: for skill, how they match up.

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01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. I mean, my speculation suggests that they're

2395
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,719
Speaker 1: waiting for that Edwards Mosfidal result and if Leon emerges,

2396
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: then that would be enough to grant him that elusive

2397
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,600
Speaker 1: first championship opportunity against Kamorrow. So we will see what

2398
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: happens there. So the ESPN news package of prelims Kenny,

2399
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: those four fights combined to last like twenty one minutes

2400
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 1: and fifty two seconds, right, But the majority of that

2401
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: was Notsordini Mabov against Edmund Shabazi and Shabazi, and I

2402
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: believe is now lost three in a row. Not Sordini

2403
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Mobov is going to be in the top eleven at

2404
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 1: the very least, and fernand Lopez is going to get

2405
01:48:57,920 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: my Coach of the Year award at the end of

2406
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: the year. I know you're going to give yours to

2407
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 1: Trevor Whitman, and we can't be on the same side.

2408
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 1: Breaking news, Okay, let's Coach of the Years Trevor Whitman, great, okay,

2409
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 1: But I'm giving it to Fredan Lopez because of the

2410
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: development of Sido Ghan, the development of Francis and Gano

2411
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 1: back in the day. Sometimes I like to go like

2412
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:16,799
Speaker 1: lifetime Achievement award, and now he's got this Nas Sordini

2413
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 1: Mavo man who if you don't know, now you know right.

2414
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a real problem and I think

2415
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 1: he could be a dark horse in this division. And

2416
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 1: he thoughts for us on that beout. Before we get

2417
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: to Ian Gary, a couple of things.

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01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 7: First of all, I agree with you on Lopez what

2419
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 7: he's done in a country like France that isn't known

2420
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 7: for its mixed martial arts background. Right up, They've produced

2421
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:43,680
Speaker 7: a ton of great martial artists, Judo and Sabah muy Thai.

2422
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 7: They've produced a lot of great martial artists there. But

2423
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 7: as far as MMA.

2424
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: It's still illegal there and the fact that he's producing

2425
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,799
Speaker 1: that kind of talent says a lot. But in Mavov

2426
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 1: I thought was very impressive. He's a dude that in

2427
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: his UFC debut.

2428
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 7: I remember when I was researching him, I was really

2429
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 7: blown away by his composure, his skill. Another Dogistani fighter

2430
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 7: you know that grew up in France, that comes from

2431
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 7: a striking background, not a wrestling background, but clearly is

2432
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 7: picking up the wrestling and is not too shabby in

2433
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 7: that department as well. This was a huge win for

2434
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 7: him and he's someone to watch man, watch out for

2435
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 7: this guy, I'm telling you all right.

2436
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 1: So, Ian Gary, the former Cage Warriors champion with much fanfare,

2437
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 1: made his UFC debut and some compromising moments early, but

2438
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: he gets Jordan Williams out of there by knockout four

2439
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:33,599
Speaker 1: point fifty nine of the first round. No performance bonus,

2440
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: but a lot of ground gain for the twenty three

2441
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: year old Ian Gary. He'll be twenty four here in

2442
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 1: a few days, and he is as confident as any

2443
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: fighter I have seen come into the UFC in years.

2444
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 1: But yet there is a humility about his ability and

2445
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: where he is at right. He wants to be progressively

2446
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 1: built by the UFC because he wants to be able

2447
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 1: to go in there and dominate someone with just his grappling.

2448
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: So say what you will about the bravado and the confidence.

2449
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: He knows exactly what he wants to do. He knows

2450
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 1: exactly what he wants to say. But yet everything he

2451
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 1: says seems to be rooted in skill development before it's

2452
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: rooted in give me the big fight. So I'm really

2453
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 1: impressed with this young man. And obviously he has a

2454
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,560
Speaker 1: lot to learn, but there's a lot of room to

2455
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 1: grow and he might just be a world champion one day.

2456
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Ian Gary, Yeah, I think that's the

2457
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 1: right approach for Ian Gary.

2458
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,479
Speaker 7: I think you know, if you've seen his fights outside

2459
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 7: of the UFC, you know this kid has a lot

2460
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,799
Speaker 7: of potential. I think we saw that once he settled

2461
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 7: down and got the jitters out and was able to

2462
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 7: find his timing out there.

2463
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,560
Speaker 1: He did what he was supposed to do.

2464
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 7: It was a beautiful shot that is a very difficult

2465
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 7: shot to throw and land and get the knockout with.

2466
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 7: You know, certainly had shades of his irishman friend there,

2467
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 7: Connor McGregor with that you know shot, and yeah, I

2468
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 7: thought it was a good overall performance and one that

2469
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,919
Speaker 7: he learned a lot from. You know, fighting at mschief

2470
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 7: the first time.

2471
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 1: In UFC debut is no easy task, and in the end,

2472
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: once he settled down, I thought it was impressive. All right.

2473
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 1: So last thing before we get on out of here,

2474
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 1: and thanks to everybody for joining us today and for

2475
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 1: indulging us. I knew we were going to go long,

2476
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: just in terms of this sportsmanship angle. You just love

2477
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 1: to see it, right, Like as much heat as there

2478
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 1: was on both of these championship fights, and you could

2479
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: be sure there's no love lost between rosnama Unis and

2480
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 1: John Woodlock, like you could be sure behind closed doors,

2481
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 1: you know. But it started with Dustin Jacoby, right, striking

2482
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: low on John Allen a couple times, and just the

2483
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 1: way he apologized, right, and then Nassordini Mavov after getting

2484
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 1: Edmund Shabazian in the crucifix right, being like, I'm sorry, man,

2485
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 1: you know I ain't trying to hurt anybody in there, right,

2486
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: And then it just continued all night long. The embrace

2487
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,839
Speaker 1: between Gechee and Shandler, the embrace between Usman and Covington

2488
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: and Covington saying you know, I'm just trying to make

2489
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: you money.

2490
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 7: You know.

2491
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: On and on it went all night long, and obviously

2492
01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: the sort of crowning example was Chris Barnett's of giving

2493
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 1: his post flight interview to John Belonte at Madison Square Garden.

2494
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: You know, really good to see, man, you know, really

2495
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 1: good see.

2496
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 7: I agree, man, you know, listen, the martial arts spirit

2497
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 7: is alive and well, and it shows that you can

2498
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 7: still fight your ass off and go out there to

2499
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 7: try to hurt the other not try to hurt the

2500
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 7: other guy, but go out there and fight hard and

2501
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 7: try to win with every weapon you have, and also

2502
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 7: be respectful, right because I think a lot of times

2503
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 7: those lines are so often blurred and we think that,

2504
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 7: you know, MMA fighters are just straight out savages and

2505
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 7: former criminals or guys that just you know, would be

2506
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 7: fighting on the street if they didn't have the UFC

2507
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 7: or didn't have professional mixed martial arts, and it's just

2508
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 7: not the case. There's a lot of guys that are

2509
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,560
Speaker 7: very humble that understand how much work is put in,

2510
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 7: and they know that if they're working hard and they're

2511
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 7: putting all the effort and they know what the other

2512
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 7: guy is putting into and they have a respect anytime

2513
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 7: there's an exchange of.

2514
01:53:57,920 --> 01:53:58,680
Speaker 1: That kind of.

2515
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 7: You know, when you're out there using everything you have

2516
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 7: and you're putting your heart out there, you have to

2517
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:07,600
Speaker 7: be able to respect.

2518
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,600
Speaker 1: Your opponent, even if you don't really like him. So

2519
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 1: it was great to see. Man, you're linked for life.

2520
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's a period like you guys are linked

2521
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 1: for life. And I know it's great when you're able

2522
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: to run into old foes. I mean, it'll be so

2523
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 1: cool the next time you run into jos Ai Aldo,

2524
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 1: whenever that ends up happening, if it's him with one

2525
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: of his Brazilian fighters, you just never know how that's

2526
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 1: going to happen. And I don't know how many listeners

2527
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 1: or viewers like stop watching when we talk about sportsmanship.

2528
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: But I'll take a little shot a ken fall on

2529
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: the way out. If you're still watching, you see that

2530
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: picture of him behind him with Clay Guida. If you

2531
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: go to UFC fight, pass like Kenny doesn't go over

2532
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 1: and make sure Clay's okay. So wait a second, I

2533
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: think I may have maybe he did not, but he

2534
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't remember going out of his way to make

2535
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 1: sure that Clay was okay after I'll stay up his

2536
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Speaker 1: face and nearly choking him unconscious. Do it today thanks

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Speaker 1: don't forget remember the show with Balal Muhammad Blal. My

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Speaker 1: brother tells me it's actually not belaw folks, it's like

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Speaker 1: Joe Blal Muhammad Balal. Anyway, I will say, and I

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Speaker 1: know there's a little blaw bias on this program, right

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Speaker 1: He's one of the maybe five or six guys who

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Speaker 1: has some percentage of a chance to get the kamzat

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Speaker 1: Chimaya fight, and that was really the big part of

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Speaker 1: my message last week was that if you are one

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Speaker 1: of these welterweight contenders, that's the fight. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you want the bag, you want the title shot, you

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Speaker 1: call that guy out, get on his radar and get

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Speaker 1: that fight. You know, that's you know, that's like boardwalk

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Speaker 1: and park place and want you know what I mean. So,

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Speaker 1: and I think Bellall is one of the guys who

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Speaker 1: has the physicality, maybe in the strength, you know. Blao's

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Speaker 1: thesis statement on this fight is let me feel that strength.

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Speaker 1: I want to feel that strength and that should be

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Speaker 1: his calling card and trying to get the fight. You know,

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Speaker 1: let me feel it. Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Listen, there's guys who are you know, out there to

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Speaker 7: just compete. There's guys who are out there to be famous.

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Speaker 7: There's guys that are out there, uh to make money,

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Speaker 7: there's out there's guys who want to be a champion.

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Speaker 7: But there's also the rare guy that wants to fight

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Speaker 7: the best. Right that was my mentality anyway. I wanted

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Speaker 7: to test my martial arts skill. Who's the dude, who's

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Speaker 7: the guy that everyone says that the best. Let let

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Speaker 7: me fight that guy. Let me test myself and get

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Speaker 7: that dude. And Uh Bilao Uh is a guy who

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Speaker 7: wants to fight the best. He wants to test himself.

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Speaker 7: And I love it because he's a guy who's been

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Speaker 7: climbing up the rankings. Not many people are calling out

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Speaker 7: Hamzat Shimaya. He's one of the few. I love it, man,

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Speaker 7: I love that attitude.

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Speaker 1: And Ken Flow said to me in like twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: right after you're retired, He's like, if I can't, if

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Speaker 1: I can't be champion, I'm just gonna buy bitcoin ten

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Speaker 1: years ahead of all these motherfuckers, and then I won't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about a thing, all right, appreciate everybody watching.

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Speaker 1: In our executive producers Cody Marrow, Cody tell Blal to

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Speaker 1: listen till the end of the show. How about Shale

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Speaker 1: calling him Blahl can't bulla hall right. As much as

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Speaker 1: my Manchale tries to put mister Muhammad over, he just

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Speaker 1: can't get his name right. Thank you all for watching,

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