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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Glay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Well, after we

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Speaker 2: went off the air yesterday, Kevin McCarthy was removed. There

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Speaker 2: is going to be a new speaker selected. Chaos has

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Speaker 2: broken out in the House of Representatives on some level.

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Speaker 2: We will try to make sense of that chaos with

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Speaker 2: all of you throughout the course of today's program. We

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Speaker 2: have got invites out to several members of the House

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Speaker 2: of Representatives who may be coming on with us. Will

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Speaker 2: certainly give you a heads up if and when those

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Speaker 2: interviews are confirmed. There is a lot of moving parts

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Speaker 2: here right now as the news continues to shift in

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Speaker 2: real time as to who exactly as going to be

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Speaker 2: the next member of the House of Representatives Speaker of

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Speaker 2: the House.

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Speaker 3: Fraternity.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of news that just broke Jim Jordan

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Speaker 2: had announced that he will be a candidate for Speaker

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Speaker 2: of the House. I would bet, if I were betting

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Speaker 2: right now, Buck, that the next Speaker of the House

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Speaker 2: will now be Jim Jordan because he founded the Freedom Caucus.

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Speaker 2: Many of the people who have been opposed to Kevin

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Speaker 2: McCarthy are members of that caucus. Jim Jordan did not

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Speaker 2: seek the Speaker's office prior to now. He's been on

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Speaker 2: this program a lot. He's a friend of mine. I

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Speaker 2: like him a lot personally. I think he would do

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Speaker 2: a good job. He is a fighter. I think that

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Speaker 2: could help to put to rest the revolution inside of

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party in the short term.

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Speaker 3: Is that the right word. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Eight members of the Republican Caucus, representing four percent of

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Speaker 2: the overall membership, voted out Kevin McCarthy. Presumably that same

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Speaker 2: power will exist going forward until we have a decision

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Speaker 2: made in twenty twenty four about what comes next. My

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Speaker 2: big issue, Buck, and I'm curious how you would assess this.

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Speaker 2: My big issue is this. This is a distraction that

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Speaker 2: takes away from the failures of the Biden administration. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think most Americans who are trying to make

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Speaker 2: a decision in thirteen months whom to vote for, are

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Speaker 2: sitting around worried about who the Speaker of the House is.

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Speaker 2: They're worried about inflation, They're worried about mortgage rates on

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Speaker 2: the thirty year getting close to eight percent, the fact

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Speaker 2: that the stock market is a mess, in their four

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Speaker 2: oh one case, haven't increased in any sort of value

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Speaker 2: at all since Joe Biden became president. In fact, they're

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Speaker 2: down based on inflation. They're worried about what gas prices are,

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Speaker 2: what grocery prices are, and who the Speaker of the

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Speaker 2: but it's a distraction. The media covers it, and as

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Speaker 2: a result, what happens at the Southern border crime, all

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Speaker 2: of the failures of the Biden administration are ignored in

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Speaker 2: favor of Republican party chaos.

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Speaker 3: How would you assess it?

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Speaker 2: That's my biggest concern as we sit here speakerless into

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Speaker 4: I think it's early for us to really know what

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Speaker 4: the outcome is, meaning, what the longer shot, longer term

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Speaker 4: the failures of Democrats of by administration. I have concerns

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Speaker 4: generally about intramural fighting among Republicans. You know, I think that, look,

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Speaker 4: there's always going to be some of that. It's politics,

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Speaker 4: I get it, But at this level, it feels like

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Speaker 4: there was a decision that was made by a few

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Speaker 5: In a way that was.

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Speaker 4: Surprisingly effective or perhaps a surprise some people that such

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Speaker 4: remember we talked about this yesterday, as long as we

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Speaker 4: something crazy like that. But that's I don't think anyone

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Speaker 5: As possibilities here.

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Speaker 4: So with all of that in mind, I think we're

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Speaker 4: all be fine, you know what I mean. That's that's

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Speaker 4: how I see. I try to look at the bright

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Speaker 4: also saying what we said yesterday, which is that there's

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Speaker 4: and I think the feeling is quite mutual. And so

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Speaker 4: it's in that reality. It's in that world that we

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Speaker 4: see this continuing to play out. That's what That's how

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Speaker 4: I feel about it, Clay, I feel like it's a lot.

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Speaker 4: It's there's a lot of people going back and forth

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Speaker 5: You're seeing that.

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Speaker 4: People talking about, Oh, this is gonna you know, we're

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Speaker 5: Well not really.

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Speaker 4: I mean you're going to replace one speaker with another speaker,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully the next speaker will be better. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think people can disagree as to whether Kevin McCarthy

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Speaker 4: You know, like I said yesterday, he came out initially

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Speaker 5: Conservatives really liked. So that's kind of how I see it.

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Speaker 2: So my concern is, and this is a sports analogy

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Speaker 2: that I think makes a lot of sense. When you

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Speaker 2: So the fact that we have a five seat majority

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Speaker 2: what you are able to accomplish, especially because there's a

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Speaker 2: big difference between, say, where I live, a Tennessee Republican

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Speaker 2: And I think one of the challenges the House has

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Speaker 2: that is going to create I think, more Republican districts

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Speaker 2: the number of actual toss up House seats and there's

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Speaker 2: Only about ten percent or fifteen percent of all House

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Speaker 2: you know, barring some sort of massive wave that transforms

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Speaker 2: I think you have to be cognizant of what is

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Speaker 2: I would welcome it, But I would say this side show,

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Speaker 3: I want to be over sooner rather.

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Speaker 2: Than later, because we're letting Biden off the hook when

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Speaker 2: the storyline is Republican incompetence. And I would also say

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Speaker 2: this buck, Democrats don't do this. Democrats don't air their

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Speaker 2: there to think about this. The media certainly aids in

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Speaker 2: they managed to do it. Nancy Pelosi was very skilled,

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Speaker 2: she didn't have a very substantial majority for much of

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Speaker 2: so to speak, breaking out on a regular basis about

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Speaker 2: whether you're a real Republican or not, which seems to

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Speaker 2: happen all the time, and certainly it's magnified right now, Buck,

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Speaker 2: because in addition to the fight that's going on in

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Speaker 2: in the presidential and as you pointed out, RFK Junior

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Speaker 3: They are a party that stays committed to its leadership.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's worth contemplating why it is that

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 2: Like you don't see public spats like this emerge very

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Speaker 4: Certainly not on the congressional side. I think part of

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Speaker 4: that might be because of Nancy Pelosi and the iron

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Speaker 4: also think you do have to remember the Bernie Hillary

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Speaker 4: there are times at which Democrats there are times during

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Speaker 4: to be more around the presidential cycles. I don't really

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Speaker 2: Uh, but Pelosi like slapped her down pretty quickly. She

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Speaker 5: And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, there was a moment where AOC decided that

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Speaker 2: Really you know, yeah, she said, I think if I

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Speaker 2: remember correctly, Nancy Pelosi said she has one vote, and yes,

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Speaker 2: you're right. I mean, in Republican or Democrat primary season

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Speaker 2: because you're battling over Famously, Kamala Harris called Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: only thing that they believe that they stand for basically

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Speaker 2: all the way through with identity politics, even though that's

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Speaker 3: I think that is attacked.

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Speaker 2: But we are going to potentially have some of the

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Speaker 2: individuals who factor in in this debate. We should also

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Speaker 2: mentioned has Steve Scalise officially announced that he is going

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Speaker 2: dealing with is he's fighting cancer. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: He was actually an ally in some ways of Speaker

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Speaker 3: Back in uh.

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Speaker 2: We got some clips, I would say, some hot take

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Speaker 6: Well, think about what we saw today. Four percent, four

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Speaker 4: So does this make New GINGRICHI rhino because I'm seeing

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Speaker 4: So many people were saying that they wanted Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: Though, of what exactly is hoping to be achieved? What

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Speaker 2: I just have said, anger isn't a strategy. I understand anger.

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Speaker 7: Eight Republicans and all Democrats ejected the Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 7: So look, Kevin's a friend of mine, I've known him

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Speaker 3: To eject a speaker. You know what.

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Speaker 7: You can inject Kevin and you can replace him with

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Speaker 2: I think that's a very valid point that he makes. Again,

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Speaker 3: Get your popcorn.

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Speaker 5: Listen to this.

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Speaker 8: You want to come out me and call me a rhino,

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Speaker 8: you can kiss my ass. Look, I've spent a lifetime

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Speaker 8: I've not seen my family but for two days in

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Speaker 8: come to my office and come out of debate.

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Speaker 5: Mother.

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Speaker 8: You know why, Because I'm standing up for this country

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to go to a numbery because, damn it,

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm.

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Speaker 8: And all of you thukers out there who are out

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, I know Chip well, I love Chip.

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Speaker 2: There is like a purity test for Republicans and what

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Speaker 2: There's an obsession with calling anyone who disagrees with you

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: This is why, you know, when when Newt takes that

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Speaker 2: So that's the best why I think it's important, Like

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Speaker 5: So you know, I view this as.

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Speaker 4: It's it's good sometimes to have a little rough housing

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Speaker 4: So you know, you look at this and you say, well,

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Speaker 4: McCarthy's got a divided Congress, he's got Senate, he's got

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Speaker 4: You've got a Joe Biden veto Penn waiting for you.

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Speaker 4: Does this current disruption and maybe be greded we give

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Speaker 4: Jim Jordan on this, Does it in any way throw

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Speaker 4: off some of the investigations and the.

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Speaker 5: Oversight stuff that's going on? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really you know, that's where you could start

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Speaker 4: to have some problems from this because over the House

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Speaker 4: Oversight Committee, killing is really the reason that Hunter Biden

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Speaker 4: has been on the hot seat the way that he has.

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Speaker 4: We've been following that here very closely. So that's you know,

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Speaker 4: another component to take into and to take into account.

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Speaker 2: And destruction also is not a strategy. It's very people

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Speaker 2: love the idea of oh, I'm just going to tear

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Speaker 2: that down. Okay, Well you tear that down, you have

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Speaker 2: to build something to replace it with. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I think again anger and destruction. They are emotional responses

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Speaker 2: to many people out there that are frustrated about the

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Speaker 2: direction of our country. But just tearing something down without

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Speaker 2: a plan of how you're going to replace it is

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Speaker 2: not going to make things better. And whomever the new

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Speaker 2: speaker is, I would like to hear, why are they

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Speaker 2: going to be better?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 2: I come back to the analogy. Usually football coaches get

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Speaker 2: fired because their teams don't win enough. But it's very

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Speaker 2: rare that the coach that immediately replaces a fired coach

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Speaker 2: is going to be a lot better because the team

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Speaker 2: doesn't change. The interim coach doesn't usually come in after

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Speaker 2: somebody gets fired and suddenly rehabilitate the entire team. Occasionally

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Speaker 2: it happens, but most of the time, the team stays

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Speaker 2: about the same because the players aren't changing. Well, players

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Speaker 2: aren't changing inside the House of Representatives. There isn't going

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Speaker 2: to be miraculously a margin of greater than five for

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Speaker 2: whomever the new speaker is and to what is being

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Speaker 2: spoken about here. If all it takes is basically five

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Speaker 2: Republicans to fire the speaker, why would you want this

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Speaker 2: job and why would you think that you're going to

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Speaker 2: be able to maintain it all the way through the

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Speaker 2: next election cycle. Now, the reality may be buck that

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Speaker 2: basically by June of next year, Congress is going to

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Speaker 2: be done and they're going to go back home and

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Speaker 2: they're going to be campaigning. So really what we're talking

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Speaker 2: about is a speaker for the next six or eight months.

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Speaker 2: There's not a long tenure here, and then we'll see

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Speaker 2: who wins control of the House in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: and whether or not that speaker of them will continue.

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Speaker 2: But my concern is, you had Hunter Biden on his

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Speaker 2: back foot. You had the Biden administration, I think wobbly

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Speaker 2: from all the investigations that are going on. You're prosecuting

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Speaker 2: the case against Joe Biden for having what I think

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Speaker 2: is the worst presidency of any of our lives. And suddenly,

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Speaker 2: in a record scratch moment, it turns back to the

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Speaker 2: Republican Party is incompetent. They can't even pick a leader,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to be the narrative for the next week,

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Speaker 2: and so that concerns me because it takes the pressure

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Speaker 2: Republican Party. And then you can point to it and

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Speaker 2: say they're incompetent whenever we try to impeach him, which

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Speaker 2: is going to be one of their arguments.

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Speaker 4: If you had to pick timing for this, though, I

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Speaker 4: would say, you know, right now, it's good. This isn't

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Speaker 4: happening in March of twenty twenty four or even worse. Well,

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Speaker 4: we agree that's true, but I think this will largely be.

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Speaker 5: Solved.

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Speaker 4: And for god, here, what do y'all think I actually

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Speaker 4: want to I just threw a y'all in there. I

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Speaker 4: didn't even mean to look at that.

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Speaker 5: Clay. I've been hanging out with Clay enough.

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Speaker 2: When you move to Miami, that's it's basically New York

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Speaker 2: certainly certainly a Southern maybe impact it's a Floridian.

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Speaker 5: She's a Floridian.

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Speaker 4: So I want to hear what the folks and the

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Speaker 1: Need a break from politics, a little comedy to counter

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Speaker 4: All right, second hour Clay Endbuck kicks off, and as

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Speaker 4: you know, we got another day of the Trump trial

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Speaker 4: with the Trumpster.

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Speaker 5: Showing up himself. Donald Trump is in fact there and

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Speaker 5: he is doing what he does.

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Speaker 4: He is a one man show, always and everywhere.

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Speaker 3: He got a little.

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Speaker 5: How do I put this?

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Speaker 4: He let his feelings be known about Letitia James, the

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Speaker 4: Attorney General, and about the judge Arthur Angoron, who is

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Speaker 4: presiding over this case. Here's let's start first with this

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Speaker 4: Trump saying what he really thinks about this trial.

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Speaker 5: On day three, play clip too.

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Speaker 6: He brought up the case under his the statute that

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Speaker 6: has never been used for a thing like this before.

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Speaker 3: Have Well, I'm not entitled to a jury.

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Speaker 9: I had a jury, even.

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Speaker 3: Though it's in New York, and I think I think

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Speaker 3: commun New York.

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Speaker 7: But if I had a jewry, which one of this

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Speaker 7: games very easily, but I don't have a good do

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Speaker 7: you see?

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Speaker 3: What's happening is the railroad and it's the beginning of.

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Speaker 4: Communism in our doctors.

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Speaker 6: This is the.

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Speaker 4: Beginning of communist the beginning of communism in our country.

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Speaker 4: It certainly is a massive leap forward in the weaponization

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Speaker 4: for political reasons of prosecutors and judges, that's for sure,

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Speaker 4: given what we see going on here. I'd also note

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Speaker 4: play this judge, particularly Judge anger On, who, as we noted,

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Speaker 4: seem to be very pleased to be on camera recently.

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Speaker 5: Yes, when the cameras came up.

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Speaker 4: But this is a flashback to twenty fifteen with this

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Speaker 4: same judge speaking about giving you a sense of his

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Speaker 4: judicial philosophy when it comes to juries.

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Speaker 5: Play one.

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Speaker 9: Now, I'm going to say something controversial, even though I'm

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Speaker 9: being taped. Jury's get it wrong a lot. That's my

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Speaker 9: own opinion. I do only civil trials, personal injury cases,

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Speaker 9: contract disputes, but I've had situations where like, oh my, my,

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Speaker 9: Heaven's sake, How could they have thought that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I have a.

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Speaker 9: Tool that I can deal with that. It's called judgment.

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Speaker 9: Notwithstanding the verdict, I can say there is no possible

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Speaker 9: way that a reasonable jury would have reached that conclusion.

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Speaker 9: And all right, am I following the law or am

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Speaker 9: I making law? Okay, I'm following law. I'm an impartial referee.

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Speaker 9: But it's hard to factor out my own emotions.

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Speaker 4: Hard to factor out his emotions. We know he doesn't

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Speaker 4: like Trump. We know that there's a part of him

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Speaker 4: that likes to talk about how he will overrule jury verdicts,

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Speaker 4: which I know judges can do that. They can set

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Speaker 4: aside a jury verdict. That is part of the process.

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Speaker 4: But you get the sense, Clay, that we have an

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Speaker 4: anti Trump activist judge. Get that sense for a number

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Speaker 4: of reasons providing over this Trump civil case. Yeah, look

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Speaker 4: on the judge overriding a jury verdict. The most frequent

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Speaker 4: time that I see it, and again it's civil not criminal,

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Speaker 4: is let's say there's a dispute and the jury comes

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Speaker 4: back and they say, we're going to award.

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Speaker 3: The defendant two hundred and fifty million.

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Speaker 2: Dollars for something that is nowhere near that level of

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Speaker 2: compensation that's deserved, and a judge basically just says, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to nullify this verdict because he's basically what

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Speaker 2: he's doing is on appeal.

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Speaker 3: Many of these.

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Speaker 2: Verdicts will get struck down anyway in a plain iff

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Speaker 2: law context. I don't know, because i'd hear the full context.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing that's kind of what he's talking about, because

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Speaker 2: he's a civil court judge, and so sometimes judges see

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Speaker 2: juries render verdicts that are completely indefensible under the law

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Speaker 2: in terms of damages.

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Speaker 3: Again, he's not a criminal judge, but.

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Speaker 2: When you are sitting there and making the rulings that

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Speaker 2: he did as a matter of law before this trial

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Speaker 2: even started, I think it's fair to say that he

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Speaker 2: is a trumpeter. And I think it's fair to say,

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Speaker 2: generally speaking that if you look at the judges that

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Speaker 2: Trump has drawn, the only one who seems remotely fair

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Speaker 2: that I have seen so far is the South Florida judge.

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Speaker 3: She seems her rulings.

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Speaker 2: I'll look at him and I'll say, Okay, like this

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Speaker 2: is somewhat of a reasonable, middle of the road ruling.

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Speaker 2: In New York City. You got a trump hating judge

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Speaker 2: for the Alvin Bragg case. It appears you got a

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Speaker 2: Trump hating judge on the civil lawsuit that is going

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Speaker 2: on right now. Certainly Chutkin in in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: Despises Trump with every fiber of her being. And in Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: we'll see it doesn't seem like I would say that

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Speaker 2: guy is closer to somewhat reasonable than the other judges.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem, Buck, If we have any indication at

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Speaker 2: all that a judge has animus for the defendant in

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Speaker 2: a case, that judge shouldn't be sitting on the on

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Speaker 2: the trial. Because there are so many decisions that have

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Speaker 2: to be made. You need a judge who is studiously

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Speaker 2: impartial that is going to make the defense and the

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Speaker 2: prosecutor unhappy sometimes with the rulings that they are going

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Speaker 2: to put out. And I would say this, Jack Smith

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Speaker 2: unhappy with any of the rulings he's gotten from Judge

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Speaker 2: chuck In in in DC. Yet there's been a lot

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Speaker 2: of emotions, a lot of arguments, unhappy with any of it.

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Speaker 4: Buck, He's not one with this this this judge has

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Speaker 4: been quite favorable to all things Jacksman.

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Speaker 2: And I would if you take it you know into

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Speaker 2: your own life. Judges have to make really difficult decisions

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Speaker 2: on a regular basis. If they always side with one side,

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Speaker 2: it's not a guarantee that the judge is biased.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty strong indication.

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Speaker 2: And given the fact that how many people in America

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Speaker 2: do you think don't have an opinion about Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: at all?

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Speaker 5: Buck?

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Speaker 3: Percentage wise? No opinion one way or the other. H

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Speaker 3: T Yeah, maybe right, and that might be high.

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Speaker 2: Although I would love if there are thirty five million

658
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Speaker 2: people in America roughly right now who have zero opinion

659
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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. I'm actually fascinated by that, more so

660
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: almost than the people who love and hate them. Like

661
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: you've watched the Trump train, the Trump experience for eight

662
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: years now and you still have no real opinion. I mean,

663
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: more power to you, I guess. I bet a lot

664
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: of these people are just so busy they're not paying attention.

665
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Most judges certainly have strong opinions one way or the other.

666
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: And in our social media era, Buck, it's so easy

667
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 2: to find out everybody's opinions because people are constantly sharing

668
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Speaker 2: those opinions that otherwise might not have been public. But

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Speaker 2: Chuck Cane, like I don't understand how she's allowed to

670
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: sit on this trial from the bench. She has basically

671
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: said that Donald Trump fomented an insurrection in some of

672
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: the punishments that she has put forward for the January

673
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Speaker 2: sixth defendants.

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Speaker 3: Once you have made.

675
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: That public pronouncement from the bench, I don't see how

676
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: you haven't clearly established that you're biased against Trump.

677
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: To me, she should not be on this case.

678
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: But as we've talked about and I think we've talked

679
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: about it off air, judges have egos. Judges want to

680
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: get the biggest possible case that they can because they

681
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: want the attention on them. Because if you are a judge,

682
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: what do you basically believe that you have impeccable judgment?

683
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Speaker 3: What you are essentially saying is that's the job, right, Yeah,

684
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: that's the job.

685
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: I can look at all these facts and I can

686
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: render the best possible outcome better than almost anyone.

687
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: That's my skill.

688
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: So if you have them say yeah, I shouldn't get

689
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: the biggest case of my career, in some way, they're

690
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: seeing that as an attack upon the very foundational ability

691
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Speaker 2: that they believe justifies them having the job in the

692
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Speaker 2: first place. So I don't think it's a coincidence that

693
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: no judge has said, yeah, you know what, I'm conflicted

694
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: out here.

695
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be in this case.

696
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, I think this is going to become a

697
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger issue, and I think certainly the challenge

698
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: is going to be buck the gag orders. I think

699
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: people need to prepare themselves for this. Everybody's focused on

700
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: what is the impact of the trial going to be.

701
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm actually right now more focused on are they going

702
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: to hold Trump in contempt for what he says about

703
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: what I believe are contemptible charges being brought against him?

704
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Which is big because we're in the middle of a

705
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: presidential election. You can't distinguish between the political and the

706
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: legal right now, and so when they try to clamp

707
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: down on what Trump can say from a legal perspective,

708
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 2: they are actually directly attacking his political process as well.

709
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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, once we turn into twenty twenty

710
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: four and it gets closer to that March trial in DC,

711
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Jack Smith is going to try to keep Trump from

712
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: being able to comment on this trial, and he may

713
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: try to even put him in prison over what he

714
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: says before there's any verdict at all.

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Speaker 3: In the case.

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Speaker 4: But this is part of why I've said, do you

717
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 4: think there's any chance they'll put Trump in a cell?

718
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: Maybe they won't put him in a cell for a

719
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: conviction that would theoretically go on for years, but contempt

720
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: of court?

721
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: Is that?

722
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 4: Is that a possibility? Given Donald Trump's pensiant for saying

723
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: what he feels like saying, irrespective of the consequences.

724
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Speaker 2: Buck here's the question that nobody seems to answer. We've

725
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 2: asked be able to answer. We asked Julie Kelly this

726
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: who knows more about the January sixth defendants than anybody.

727
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: If we presume that this Jack Smith trial is going

728
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: to start in March, let's say it's going to be

729
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: over some time in June. That seems reasonable if that

730
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Speaker 2: were to happen. If Trump is convicted, are they going

731
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Speaker 2: to try to put him in handcuffs and lead him

732
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: out the moment that the conviction is announced and take

733
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: him to some form of confinement? Again, these are the

734
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: kind of questions that and then does the how does

735
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 2: how does the Secret Service handle that? These are the

736
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: kind of questions again, My bet is that he gets

737
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: home confinement. If you were convicted and they try to

738
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Speaker 2: restrict his movement to mar Lago or Bedminster or wherever

739
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: he is. But these are the kinds of questions that

740
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: Democrats have created that there are no easy process answers for.

741
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: And every day that we get closer to that trial beginning,

742
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: presuming that it happens in March, and I still have

743
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: my doubts about whether we'll be able to go to trial,

744
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: but I think that's right now. The New York City

745
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: case is scheduled first, right buck, But I think that

746
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg will step out of the way for Jack Smith.

747
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: Would be my guests the moment that that trial starts,

748
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: and I think they'll drag it on. Who knows how

749
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: long it'll take to get a jury seated. I just

750
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: told you off air that they've already managed to see

751
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: a jury for Sam Bateman Fried's case, which is officially

752
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: going to begin in Earnest. Now, Jack Smith is going

753
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: to try to move this thing as fast as he

754
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: possibly can. Chutkin is going to be allied with Jack Smith.

755
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: That eventually leads to a decision having to be made

756
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 2: if this jury convicts, which I think in Washington, DC

757
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: they will. This is what I've been saying all along,

758
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: if you had a normal judge that cared about common

759
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: regular procedure and who was being fair minded, there would

760
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: be a much greater likelihood that Trump would be able

761
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: to extend this out and everything would fall along the

762
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: lines of the election really determining everything, because he'd be

763
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: able to delay. This judge is not allowing that delay,

764
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: and this judge is not going to recuse yourself, and

765
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: there's really nothing in the system that is going to

766
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: stop any of that. I mean, maybe they'll go to

767
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: the appeals court for some of this, but I find

768
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Speaker 2: that very unlikely.

769
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Speaker 5: I was skeptical that.

770
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Speaker 4: They would even move the Georgia cases to the federal court,

771
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: not federal jurisdiction per se, but to the federal courthouse

772
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: because of the way that works with federal employees, so

773
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Speaker 4: that the states can't just sort of harass them if

774
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Speaker 4: they're actually doing their jobs.

775
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Speaker 5: As you mentioned yesterday, so far judges said no, you

776
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 5: can't do that.

777
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: And I do think that the federal case in d

778
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Speaker 2: C is the one that they need to be the

779
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: most focused on trying to fight, because I think it's

780
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: the only one that has a chance to be done

781
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Speaker 2: before the election.

782
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Speaker 3: Happens in nobody.

783
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Speaker 4: I think there's yes, and I think there's a very

784
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 4: good chance that you will end up with a jury

785
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Speaker 4: in d C. You will have a judge who's doing

786
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: everything possible to stack the deck against Trump, and you

787
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: will have a jury in DC that will be willing

788
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: to find Trump guilty of you know, anything, It doesn't

789
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: really matter.

790
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 5: What the charge is, what the specifics are.

791
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Speaker 4: I think that he has become so polarizing and liberals

792
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: hate him so much that in a left wing stronghold

793
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 4: like Washington, d C, getting a number of jurors who

794
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 4: truly despise him to the point where they just want

795
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: to see him convicted regardless of the facts is very

796
00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 4: is very high.

797
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 5: It's very high.

798
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: So I've been concerned about that one all along. And

799
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: I do believe that their goal would probably be house

800
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: arrested our A Lago. But think about that, then they

801
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: would get to he's a convicted felon, he can't really campaign,

802
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 4: he's stuck at Mora Lago. They're going to say that

803
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: they're being respectful of his role as a former president

804
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: by not putting him in a prison selves, do you

805
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Yeah, the House arrests maneuver for

806
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 4: them isn't crazy everybody if they can get this trial through.

807
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 4: So we need to see this coming ahead of ahead

808
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Speaker 4: of time, and I think make the necessary precautions and

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Speaker 2: Play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.

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Speaker 5: They've made an arrest.

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Speaker 4: Of an eighteen year old who identified right now as

830
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Speaker 4: the person of interest in the stabbing murder of a

831
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Speaker 4: Brooklyn community organizer and an activist named Ryan Carson. A

832
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: lot of people have seen it. It's gone viral. The

833
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 4: video has been online now for over twenty four hours.

834
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Speaker 4: And what you see is this individual in I believe

835
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Speaker 4: the bedsty Bedford Stuyvesant area of Brooklyn, at about three

836
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Speaker 4: o'clock in the four o'clock in the morning, actually so

837
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Speaker 4: a time that being on the streets is just unfortunately

838
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Speaker 4: the case.

839
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Speaker 5: Being on the streets at four o'clock in the morning,

840
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Speaker 5: you are.

841
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Speaker 4: More likely to come across problems, You're more likely to

842
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Speaker 4: be the victim of a crime. Then this individual who

843
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: is now under arrest, said, you know what the bleep

844
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Speaker 4: are you looking at? Carson was with his girlfriend and

845
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Speaker 4: the individual then just pulled out a knife and stabbed

846
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Speaker 4: him to death.

847
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 5: And this has.

848
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Speaker 4: Especially for New Yorkers, but also around the country, this

849
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Speaker 4: kind of senseless violence. I mean, Clay talked a lot

850
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Speaker 4: yesterday about what happened in Chattanooga, how that has really

851
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 4: hit home for so many people, and it's a real

852
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: gut punch. I mean, there are stories you read and

853
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 4: you just your humanity demands that you feel like your

854
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: day is a little you know, your day is a

855
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 4: little rougher after just knowing that something like that could happen.

856
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Speaker 4: And in this case in Bedford Stuyvesant, you have totally random,

857
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Speaker 4: effectively totally random murder of somebody who including his girlfriend

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Speaker 4: who was there on the scene.

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Speaker 3: We're both.

860
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Speaker 4: Very anti police and very left wing in their belief

861
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Speaker 4: systems based on what you see online. Now, that doesn't

862
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: change anything about the heinousness of the crime against mister Carson,

863
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Speaker 4: and I don't bring it up for any purpose along

864
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Speaker 4: those lines.

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Speaker 5: I talk about a clay just because.

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Speaker 4: There's reaching I think now that we are reaching a

867
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Speaker 4: phase in this where the bad ideas have gotten so

868
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Speaker 4: bad that even people who hold them, who think that

869
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: they will generally be exempt from the consequences in these cities,

870
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Speaker 4: are finding out that that's not true. That the crime,

871
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Speaker 4: and the violent crime specifically, has gotten to a place

872
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Speaker 4: where it can happen to you anywhere in some cities,

873
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Speaker 4: and certainly four am on the streets of Bedford Stuyvesant

874
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn is a dangerous place to be, and we

875
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Speaker 4: need more cops, we need more law enforcement.

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Speaker 3: We need.

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Speaker 4: Something of a societal reset toward law and order in

878
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 4: these places and the expectation that crime will be punished

879
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 4: and that people can finally feel safer on the streets.

880
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: We've basically adopted the idea that it's racist to put

881
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 4: criminals in prison because too many criminals are black. I mean,

882
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: let's be honest. That is what the Democrat Party decides

883
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 4: in the wake of George Floyd. But they had been

884
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: working on it for some time. They had been arguing

885
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: that our justice system was racist because there were too

886
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: many black people being put in prison. That's the reality.

887
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: And yesterday's story that I talked about Chris Wright, thirty

888
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 2: eight year old father of three.

889
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: He had an eight week old He.

890
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: Went to his twentieth anniversary at Baylor High School, which

891
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: is a prominent high school in the Chattanooga, Tennessee area,

892
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: and while he was attending that twentieth anniversary, the reunion,

893
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: he was shot in the head, murdered in cold blood

894
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: by a guy who had been arrested.

895
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: Sixty six times.

896
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: Yesterday, Buck we talked about Washington, d C. Is in

897
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 2: the grips of a massive increase in violent crime. Murders

898
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: are up thirty eight percent. I believe over last year

899
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: over two hundred people have been murdered in Washington, DC.

900
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: Never happened in the twenty four century. We're only in October.

901
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: Way more people are unfortunately going to be killed before

902
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: the year is out. The average number of times that

903
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: an arrested murderer has been arrested before eleven.

904
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: What are we doing?

905
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: The people who are committing violent crimes, we know who

906
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: they are.

907
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: Police know who they are. It's not a surprise.

908
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: We're not talking about somebody suddenly snaps and out of

909
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: nowhere they commit the first crime of their life. Those

910
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: are difficult crimes to stop. No one would argue against

911
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: that Guy's been arrested sixty six times fuck in Chattanooga

912
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: several times for violence, for firing guns at people, and

913
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: the idea that he suddenly decides to shoot somebody. This

914
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: is not a random act of violence. This is a

915
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: violent predator who shouldn't have been on the streets. And

916
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: I get, what's the criminal history? Have they released it yet?

917
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Of the guy who stabbed the person in New York City?

918
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 5: He has let me see him pull it up right here.

919
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: I bet that this is not a first time violent

920
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: criminal offense for him either.

921
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: It very rarely is.

922
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: Again, an average of eleven times in DC double digit

923
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: arrest is on average what happens when we finally catch

924
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: one of these murderers. And the truth of the matter

925
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: is that violent crime is not committed evenly.

926
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Speaker 3: We've talked about this on the show before.

927
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: It's like you can't even mention it because people are afraid,

928
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's racist to share facts. No, black

929
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 2: men represent six percent of the United States population. Black

930
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: men commit over half of all murders. Most of their

931
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: victims are black men. Six percent of the population is

932
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: committing over half of the murders. We know that, we

933
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: know when murders are occurring. That's a reliable criminal data point.

934
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: Are you not allowed to point that out? Should we

935
00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: not arrest murderers? Black men commit wildly disproportion acts of

936
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: violent crime. It isn't racist anymore than it is sexist

937
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: to arrest men. And that's why I always come back

938
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Speaker 2: to this argument because it really floors everybody. Women don't

939
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: get arrested for violent crimes because they don't commit very

940
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: many violent crimes. It's not sexist that ninety five percent

941
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: of people arrested for violent violent crime or men.

942
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 3: Black men create.

943
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 2: Wildly out of proportion of their population more violent crime

944
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: than you would expect. They represent six percent of the

945
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: American population. They commit over half of all murders. It's

946
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: not racist to point that out, but it's like you're

947
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: not even allowed to say it. If you're going to

948
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: address acts of violent crime, black men are going to

949
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: be disproportionately arrested because they commit disproportionate amounts of violent crime.

950
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: That's not racism.

951
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 4: This led to a lot of the Soros prosecutor mentality

952
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 4: and the narrative of mass incarceration and defund and even

953
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 4: abolish police. They look at these numbers and they say,

954
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: you know, the prison system, for example, the New York

955
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: City prison system is about ninety percent black. The inmates

956
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 4: on any given day are about ninety percent black. And

957
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: they look at this and they say, that is the

958
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 4: product of a racist system. And the only way they

959
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: felt they could deal with that, or they thought the

960
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 4: best way to deal with that was to just have

961
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 4: fewer people in general held in prisons. And one of

962
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 4: the best examples of how this works out in practice

963
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 4: is that you have in a place like Philadelphia. Larry

964
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 4: Krasner the DA there. They talk a lot about gun

965
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 4: violence and the need to get illegal guns off the streets,

966
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: but in something like half of illegal handgun possession cases

967
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia, they dismissed the charges. So they're saying, we

968
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: need to stop the guns, we need to stop gun violence.

969
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: But the most likely halfway to achieving some kind of

970
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: reduction and gun violence would be when somebody, especially if

971
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 4: they're a gang member, they have a previous criminal record.

972
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 4: A lot of these were felons play in possession of

973
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: a fire, which is an additional statutory violation. I think

974
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 4: it's actually federal. At that point, they dismissed these charges,

975
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: and then they tell us, oh, we didn't have the

976
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 4: highest murder rate in Philadelphia I think in the city's

977
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 4: history last year, or maybe it was the year before,

978
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 4: because of bad policy. They were saying it was because

979
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: of COVID. Does everyone remember that, Yeah, that was what

980
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 4: the left wing intelligentsia were promoting.

981
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: It was COVID.

982
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: The other point I think needs to be made here,

983
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: Buck is there's a lot of focus, Oh, we're over

984
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: penalizing people. These are non violent offenses. A lot of

985
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: people are charged with eight different crimes or nine different crimes,

986
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: and they then will plea it all the way down

987
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: to a lesser charge. If you're in jail for trespassing

988
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: or you are convicted of some sort of and I'm

989
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: just using that as an example of a lower level

990
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: misdemeanor offense. It doesn't mean that you are nonviolent. It

991
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: might well be the case that your district attorney was

992
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: able to get that lowered because the idea is your

993
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: public defender. The district attorney was willing to lower it

994
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: because they're not trying to put people behind bars. So

995
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: this whole argument of well a lot of this is

996
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: non violent in nature, No, it isn't. And the other

997
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: thing we should point out too is when you talk

998
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: about who's doing a crime. I said six percent of

999
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: the population's black, and they do commit over half of

1000
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: all murders. That's a factual reality. But the vast majority

1001
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: of that six percent is innocent and law abiding. It's

1002
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: a tiny pinprick of that six percent that's actually committing

1003
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: the crimes. There's almost no one over the age for instance,

1004
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: of fifty that commits an act of violent crime. As

1005
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: a percentage of the population, it's almost sixteen to forty

1006
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: year old men across the board, and it's a tiny

1007
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: pinprick of those guys too.

1008
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: So the people who.

1009
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: Are the victims here of black violence are black violence.

1010
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: But the only time we care about black violence in

1011
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: this nation is when a white person is involved in

1012
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: committing an act of violence against a black person.

1013
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: The media comes and they cover it.

1014
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: Black guys shooting another black guy doesn't get an ounce

1015
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: of attention, So we're not actually going and solving the

1016
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: root cause of violence when the media is focused on

1017
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: a tiny pinprick of violence.

1018
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: If I wish we could eliminate.

1019
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: Every act of cross racial violence in America, if we did,

1020
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: only seven percent of black murders would go away, because

1021
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: ninety three percent of the time, the murder of a

1022
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: black person is another black person.

1023
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 3: So we're not even talking.

1024
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: About the biggest issues of crime because a lot of

1025
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: woke white people have decided it's racist to even recognize

1026
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: what's going on. And the unfortunately buck the people who

1027
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: end up losing out are often poor and black who

1028
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: end up the victims of all this crime. It's like

1029
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: you're not even allowed to say it.

1030
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I don't even hear Jerry Republican presidential candidates

1031
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: say this. If you heard one person say that, like,

1032
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: just share the facts.

1033
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Speaker 2: You can't solve a problem without acknowledging where the problem

1034
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