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Speaker 2: So, but the point I'm making is I got a
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Speaker 2: are some things about the fact that we live in
Speaker 2: this poisonous water that is capitalism and as evil as
Speaker 2: a corporation as Amazon is, what am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Am I gonna you gonna shop at Target? While they
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Speaker 3: So I was like, I need a camera.
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Speaker 3: My research was the price tag.
Speaker 1: And I am.
Speaker 2: Now about to return this mud and buy a camera
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Speaker 2: videos can be I am rambling and I noticed is
Speaker 2: going to be a long episode. You Wasn't Outside Series finale,
Speaker 2: the Ceasefire Edition. Now in my rambling preamble, there's a
Speaker 2: few things I want to highlight that.
Speaker 3: We're going to cover today.
Speaker 2: First of all, we started this series about Israel and
Speaker 2: Palestine calling it You Wasn't Outside, because I mean this
Speaker 2: is way back to season one, because it was very
Speaker 2: clear by seeing the discussion that was happening in the
Speaker 2: news and online and just among our friends, Americans were
Speaker 2: grossly uninformed, like embarrassingly uninformed about first of all, conflict,
Speaker 2: colonial the history of the Middle East. Didn't know what
Speaker 2: infatada was, no idea what a Israeli settlement is inside
Speaker 2: of the West Bank, like just.
Speaker 3: Americans had no idea.
Speaker 2: And the only way for me to explain it was like, man,
Speaker 2: y'all was like, Okay, you wasn't outside, Like you don't
Speaker 2: like in the same way when you guys talk about
Speaker 2: gang violence. Okay, y'all wasn't there, so clearly you don't
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. That's that was our attitude
Speaker 2: as to why we why I called this series. You
Speaker 2: wasn't outside. And then after fifteen months college students getting radicalized,
Speaker 2: it seemed like people caught all real quick as to
Speaker 2: what was going on, and it was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: I think we understand now.
Speaker 3: We done caught up real quick.
Speaker 2: We may have jumped in America, may have jumped in
Speaker 2: at season nine, episode one, but we seem to catch
Speaker 2: up as to what was going on pretty quick. It turned,
Speaker 2: it seemed to me like we didn't like, okay, what
Speaker 2: we figured it out? We was like, oh, some main
Speaker 2: right here, and this right here is the season finale.
Speaker 2: And notice how I'm not saying this is the series finale,
Speaker 2: because again, if you was outside, you know this is
Speaker 2: far from over. We are going to discuss today how
Speaker 2: the negotiations went the carnage and let me ask you this,
Speaker 2: who you think got the dub.
Speaker 3: Who you think won this round?
Speaker 2: I have thoughts hook politics, y'all. All right, this is
Speaker 2: the whole last third week of twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 2: god dog, so let's start.
Speaker 3: But look, it's like this bull look is like this
Speaker 3: bullook is like this.
Speaker 2: All right, it is like this. Apparently as an inauguration
Speaker 2: today you gonna watch that. I'm not, but I am
Speaker 2: interested in the fact that the snoop Ricky Rose soldier boy,
Speaker 2: which I guess I kind of get Nelly all participated
Speaker 2: in the festivities around whether it was the crypto, which
Speaker 2: is something else to be said, because if Trump launches
Speaker 2: his own crypto currency, then that means foreign governments can
Speaker 2: invest in it without saying who they are and identifying themselves.
Speaker 2: So you know, that don't seem like a security breach
Speaker 2: to me, and I don't know what is. And speaking
Speaker 2: of security breaches, We're gonna talk about TikTok in a second,
Speaker 2: but but listen, the way that my West Coast trauma
Speaker 2: is set up, far be it from me to have
Speaker 2: any smoke for my ogs. We just are not allowed
Speaker 2: to talk about our OG's in public. However, Rose is
Speaker 2: not my og. He's Atlanta. I just I kind of
Speaker 2: don't understand that move, except for the fact that I
Speaker 2: do understand that he's a hustler.
Speaker 3: Soldier. Boy, They hustlers. I don't know if we know
Speaker 3: what either of them believe.
Speaker 2: So like that's that I could wrap my mind around Snoop.
Speaker 3: This one kind of hurt. I kind of don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with this one, because
Speaker 2: I feel like Snoop walks on water out here in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and I was.
Speaker 3: Even with him most of the time. I could see
Speaker 3: the play.
Speaker 2: During the Biggie and Tupac thing, Snoop had no problem.
Speaker 2: He was like, I ain't got no problem with them,
Speaker 2: Like I go do a song with him and call
Speaker 2: me on it. I'm a gangster, and that I understand
Speaker 2: that part. I understand. Normally, we could see the play.
Speaker 2: I understood the sketches play like I understood the WWE play.
Speaker 2: The man showed up all wrestle many. I understand the
Speaker 2: T mobile play. Matter of fact, I would love I
Speaker 2: would love for some game as to how to could
Speaker 2: He talked about once like doing the sketcheres thing, and
Speaker 2: that's why he did it. I get to play this
Speaker 2: one is is a little more difficult for me. He's
Speaker 2: never been afraid to cross enemy lines, like cause the
Speaker 2: combine where his where his his recording studio is and
Speaker 2: stuff is in Englewood, which is known to be all bloods.
Speaker 3: He a crip, and he like, I go where I
Speaker 3: want to go.
Speaker 2: Maybe I've explained, Maybe I explained to play myself to myself. Snoop,
Speaker 2: just do what you want. Hen't be worried about what
Speaker 2: y'all think. I think, I oh, I just figured it out.
Speaker 2: Never mind, I normally I respect it. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. This one was just little I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: cause you you kind of I think what made this
Speaker 2: one that's so difficult because he was so strong about
Speaker 2: stop being a tap dancing jigaboo for this man, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, that's the part I didn't understand.
Speaker 2: He was like Trump's fucking racist and anybody whoever runs
Speaker 2: with him as a motherfucking racist too like this.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's those are your words, my nigga. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's the part I don't understand. Let me see another
Speaker 2: news and others like this. Drake responded with to UMG
Speaker 2: with a lawsuit. Umng was like, my nigga, sir, what
Speaker 2: sense does it make for us to sabotage our own artists?
Speaker 2: What sense does that make? Then they had to explain
Speaker 2: hip hop to him, this is a battle. This is
Speaker 2: what battles are. You have said horrible things about other
Speaker 2: people and it was crickets then. And as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, big dog, why you sue it us?
Speaker 3: We didn't say it.
Speaker 2: Kendrick said it, sue it us cuz proving again he
Speaker 2: is not like us. And finally in it's like this,
Speaker 2: Trump ran the textbook hoods to play, which is called
Speaker 2: out of here, make somebody else do the hit, and
Speaker 2: then stop the person from doing the hit so that
Speaker 2: you could be the hero.
Speaker 3: I like, is that not what happened with TikTok? Dude?
Speaker 2: Was it not obvious to y'all? It was obvious to me,
Speaker 2: that's what this man was doing. Because as everybody know
Speaker 2: what Trump, you just got to be the last person
Speaker 2: to talk to him because if you're the last person talk,
Speaker 2: you can convisime of what you're saying. Just make sure
Speaker 2: nobody come in after. So as long as you've been
Speaker 2: to knee, you good. Trump in there saving us. But
Speaker 2: he's like TikTok's great, like America likes great. You know
Speaker 2: a lot of people on TikTok like me. This fool
Speaker 2: just being captive saved oh yours? There was there.
Speaker 3: Hilarious, absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2: La on fire still well, actually it's it's finally calming down.
Speaker 2: What's heating up is the rent prices. There's somebody that
Speaker 2: go to my daughter's jiu jitsu because my daughter's in
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu.
Speaker 3: Whose rent is they got this?
Speaker 2: They got displaced and they rent is ten thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a month and the owner is like, I'm charging to
Speaker 2: this because I can't. So I think we found the looters.
Speaker 2: Everybody was worried about back to it. You wasn't outside,
Speaker 2: all right, Ceasefire edition Today's gonna be a little heavy,
Speaker 2: and why is because let me rewind the clock for
Speaker 2: y'all a little bit this season, which you know, we
Speaker 2: lovingly called season nine.
Speaker 3: I'd made up the number nine, so I don't know
Speaker 3: why I just called it that.
Speaker 2: Episode one was the October seventh attack from Hamas on Israel.
Speaker 2: But like we've done in multiple episodes, we went back
Speaker 2: and explained Zionism, you know, on the Zion and the
Speaker 2: other Zion, the actual you know, pilgrimage back to Israel
Speaker 2: from European Jews that were escaping the Pagras, you know,
Speaker 2: post World War Two, and just an understanding as to
Speaker 2: like why they're so terrified and feeling froggy all the time.
Speaker 2: If you went through that collective trauma, you'd feel froggy too.
Speaker 2: You'd think everybody, everybody talking to you got a problem.
Speaker 2: You would be scared anytime anybody talk about their own
Speaker 2: protection and their own rights. We also talked about the
Speaker 2: history of even why this place is called Palestine, because
Speaker 2: this particular region was named that by the Romans, and
Speaker 2: it was toatrol the Israelites, because Palestine is a Roman
Speaker 2: word for the Philistines. Philistines, if you know your Bible
Speaker 2: was the that's Goliath, like David and Goliath. Goliath was
Speaker 2: a Philistine, so it was a troll the name of
Speaker 2: which doesn't matter. These people have lived here. There were
Speaker 2: some people that never left the region continued to be
Speaker 2: the region while the displaced Jews were in Europe living
Speaker 2: for a century, multiple centuries. Life never stopped here a
Speaker 2: lot of times, I think a lot of times when
Speaker 2: you you know, when you move away and you come back,
Speaker 2: you expect people to be right where you left them.
Speaker 2: Life goes on right, and life went on in the
Speaker 2: region of Judea and continued to be you know, occupied
Speaker 2: and fought for freedom, whether it was the Turks or
Speaker 2: the Malukes. Like, there's so much happened in this particular region,
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of like you know, cross germanation.
Speaker 3: I'm reading a.
Speaker 2: Book about Africa. Let me bring up the name of
Speaker 2: this book because I highly recommend it. It's called An
Speaker 2: African History of Africa. So it's Africans talking about African history.
Speaker 2: It's an incredible book. And part of that talks about
Speaker 2: the migration because remember like Judea, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, the
Speaker 2: Red Sea, North Africa. It's there, they're they're connected by land, like.
Speaker 3: You can walk to it.
Speaker 2: You could walk to Egypt from Gaza like, so it's
Speaker 2: like this region has been tied into our history as
Speaker 2: a descendant of Africans the whole time. So that being said,
Speaker 2: one thing that's always that is, you know, not covered
Speaker 2: often is the Arab slave trade. Like Arab countries participated
Speaker 2: in slavery. Also it wasn't always transatlantic, sometimes it was
Speaker 2: trans Indian Ocean. So that being said, there's a long
Speaker 2: history of North African Arab Judeans in this area of
Speaker 2: sort of conflict. And anyway, there's a long history here.
Speaker 2: We went through it already. And then finally when the
Speaker 2: British left in nineteen forty five, was finally when Israel
Speaker 2: did the grab to call themselves a country. Now, remember
Speaker 2: a modern nation state, a post World War two League
Speaker 2: of Nations type nation state, a geopolitical line is not
Speaker 2: the same as an ethnic person, right, and everybody who
Speaker 2: lived within those geopolitical lines don't necessarily hold to the
Speaker 2: positions that the made up geopolitical government holds.
Speaker 3: Let's remember that, right.
Speaker 2: But Palestinians one day woke up in Israel, like we
Speaker 2: never left. We did not cross the border. The border
Speaker 2: crossed us. And what I know when I went for
Speaker 2: the first time to the region. I went with Full Disclosure,
Speaker 2: an incredibly.
Speaker 3: Zionist organization.
Speaker 2: Now granted I didn't know, and also I went with
Speaker 2: a group of homeboys and their wives and homegirls, and
Speaker 2: our attitude was, all right, well, they're paying for it,
Speaker 2: will chew the meat, spit out the bones. That's an
Speaker 2: old church phrase where it's like, you know, you take
Speaker 2: what you need and then you spit out the.
Speaker 3: Parts you don't.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: My attitude was, I want to see or hear if
Speaker 2: this is what I think it is, because if it's
Speaker 2: what I think it is, it's kind of sort of
Speaker 2: maybe absolutely. In apartheid, you are a colonial power leveraging
Speaker 2: your faith to justify things that your Holy text caused
Speaker 2: a sin. As a geopolitical nation state, you basically your
Speaker 2: pusher is the amount is the United States. United States
Speaker 2: got you hooked on drugs, and you stay with them
Speaker 2: because they got the big gun. Now granted you became
Speaker 2: that honestly because of all the stuff that y'all went through.
Speaker 2: But if it's what I think it is, then I
Speaker 2: don't know if you got a leg to stand on,
Speaker 2: you kind of doing this to your own people, what's
Speaker 2: my attitude, but I wanted but like I went, I
Speaker 2: swear to y'all. I went in there with an open mind.
Speaker 2: Proved me wrong because I thought maybe it was just gangshit.
Speaker 2: Like if it's just like gangshit, then it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is a blood feud.
Speaker 3: There's nobody right.
Speaker 2: Like in my mind, I'm like, if it's just some
Speaker 2: crips and bloodshit, then it's like, well, nobody's right. This
Speaker 2: is just this is just what it is. Just show
Speaker 2: me and I gotta tell you man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. This was an apart tap. It was
Speaker 3: kind of it was like I heard y'all.
Speaker 2: I listened to everything, y'all, Like I honestly gave y'all
Speaker 2: this is me being real with y'all.
Speaker 3: I honestly was like, because.
Speaker 2: I grew up in church, I'm in church like everybody else,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like every other black people
Speaker 2: we grew up in church.
Speaker 3: I didn't I had. I thought Israel was Israel, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Then you get there and you like, y'all, y'all are Russian,
Speaker 2: y'all Polish like, and then it was really obvious to
Speaker 2: look and see, Okay, well, I knew Judaism went to
Speaker 2: Africa before I went to Europe, so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: there are Ethiopian Jews. Axum's the first Christian city, like
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I'm like, we got a lot
Speaker 2: of history in there. And it was very, very easy
Speaker 2: to notice. Everybody got a little melonine is working in
Speaker 2: the service industry. There's even programs that was sterilizing African
Speaker 2: Jews to make sure that they don't have to like this,
Speaker 2: Like I'm like this, I wish I was making this up.
Speaker 3: I wish this was like fake news.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, like it's obviously I didn't see the
Speaker 2: sterization with my own eyes, but I saw even within Jerusalem,
Speaker 2: I saw a clear colorism, a clear stratification. It's just
Speaker 2: hard for somebody to look at a room full of
Speaker 2: people of color, who already know what it's like to
Speaker 2: be second class citizens, for you to try to convince
Speaker 2: me that your world is separate but equal. We already
Speaker 2: know from our own experience that that don't work. So
Speaker 2: it was super obvious to me as as once I
Speaker 2: saw it. And then when we finally went to Bethlehem,
Speaker 2: we went to the West Bank, we went to the city.
Speaker 2: We couldn't go into Gaza because clearly I can't go
Speaker 2: into Gaza at the time, this is twenty eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 2: But we were on the city right next to Gaza,
Speaker 2: right the town, right right by the border, and they
Speaker 2: were showing us like blown out like shells from like
Speaker 2: bombs and stuff like that. That's freaking scary, man, Like
Speaker 2: to see bus stops that had to be strong concrete
Speaker 2: because they had to be able to withstand bombs Like
Speaker 2: That's when you get to the human level. It's like
Speaker 2: it's dark and it's hard to not feel that the
Speaker 2: people on the ground are caught into some stuff that
Speaker 2: none of them ask for. The border is made up,
Speaker 2: this line is imagining. It's just a desert. It's a
Speaker 2: desert that somebody threw a wall on, Like it don't
Speaker 2: have to be it, don't have to be this way,
Speaker 2: you feel me, it's hard to not see that is
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say. And then clearly who the
Speaker 2: the aggressor is and clearly who is defending themselves. And
Speaker 2: to know how people get radicalized you just watching it
Speaker 2: with your own eyes, like this is how you make
Speaker 2: a hamas anyway, that's the background all leading up to
Speaker 2: October seventh with the attack from Hamas. Now during that attack,
Speaker 2: which again was the start of season nine, which we're
Speaker 2: seeing the season finale of today Israel I'm reading from Reuters.
Speaker 2: I'll say this the latest round. See they even said
Speaker 2: the thing of the Israel Palestinian conflict began October seventh,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, when Hamas militants stormed across the border
Speaker 2: into Israel communities Israel militants, Israeli says militants killed more
Speaker 2: than twelve hundred people, mostly civilians, and took two hundred
Speaker 2: people two hundred and fifty people into captivity in Gaza.
Speaker 3: So that's how this new shit started.
Speaker 2: And like we said in one of the first He
Speaker 2: Wasn't Outsides episodes, we gave the example of one of
Speaker 2: my closest friends and in a family scenario with his
Speaker 2: cousin where his cousin got out the pin and was
Speaker 2: staying with him and staying with my friend. And while
Speaker 2: this was happening, my friend's mother was going through this
Speaker 2: situation with someone who was doing a utility service for her,
Speaker 2: who was not treating her fairly. So this cousin who
Speaker 2: just got out the pin here's about is auntie who
Speaker 2: was kind enough to take him in. Who's one of
Speaker 2: us who felt that she was being taken advantage of?
Speaker 2: And she was she was being treated very unfairly. And
Speaker 2: she looked too, because my friend was only a teenager
Speaker 2: at the time.
Speaker 3: She looked to her.
Speaker 2: Nephew, a nephew for which no one else in the
Speaker 2: family wanted to take in. After he got out of prison,
Speaker 2: So remember that. So he felt an obligation to take
Speaker 2: care of this far and take care of it he did.
Speaker 2: He took that utility worker hours away and did atrocious
Speaker 2: things to that man, and then came back and returned
Speaker 2: the products for which his auntie was missing. And his
Speaker 2: auntie was like, nephew, I ain't what did you do
Speaker 2: to that? I did not ask you. I ain't asked
Speaker 2: you to go that hard. I just wanted but stuff
Speaker 2: back got dog. And then, to take the scenario further,
Speaker 2: if that said worker who got abused in ways for
Speaker 2: which that I can't explain, decided to bomb the entire
Speaker 2: city of Los Angeles and wipe out the entire death
Speaker 2: toll of the entire city because he did not like
Speaker 2: me and treated to wag tree, this is what's happening
Speaker 2: right now. Like okay, so it went psycho. Now what
Speaker 2: this brought up? Where old stuff right now? You ever
Speaker 2: been in therapy, if you ain't been in therapy, or
Speaker 2: if you haven't been in a relationship, you know, there
Speaker 2: are things called triggers where a lot of times what
Speaker 2: we talk about right now ain't really about right now.
Speaker 2: It's stuff that we just have not dealt with for
Speaker 2: a long time. This scenario brought that up. And this
Speaker 2: is what I feel got the college kids out here
Speaker 2: finally radicalized. They finally realized that it's like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is moden just this moment, because if it was just
Speaker 2: this moment, then it would be completely understandable to where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you gotta go okay, you gotta go
Speaker 2: to war like this, you know, y'all got attacked.
Speaker 3: And then somebody say wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 3: wait no no no no no no no.
Speaker 2: They didn't get attacked out of nowhere. This has been
Speaker 2: going on for a hundred years. This is just the
Speaker 2: next and people was like, wow, one hundred years, do
Speaker 2: tell what's been going on. Then you learn about the emphatize,
Speaker 2: you learn about how Israel b you learn about their displacement,
Speaker 2: the birth of Hamas and what Hamas was at one time,
Speaker 2: you start learning all this stuff, and then you start
Speaker 2: realizing even when they got there. One of the things
Speaker 2: that this brought up was the normalization. Now you remember
Speaker 2: when I talk to you about normalization, which is essentially
Speaker 2: what they're saying is the rest of the Arab nations.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we gonna recognize y'all as a nation.
Speaker 2: Remember y'all left and what you did to the people
Speaker 2: of Palestine is unacceptable. I'm not accepting you as one
Speaker 2: of us because of your treatment to the very people
Speaker 2: for which you know you displacing. I'm not gonna recognize
Speaker 2: you like anybody got a step parent. If you get
Speaker 2: a step parent when you were a little older and
Speaker 2: you're like, you're not my real dad, You're not my
Speaker 2: real mom. I am never going to call you mom.
Speaker 2: I am never going to normalize my.
Speaker 3: Relationship with you.
Speaker 2: Why because you don't matter now this because I am,
Speaker 2: in fact a stepfather. Now, granted, I've been around since
Speaker 2: I was three, and I did everything I could to
Speaker 2: make sure that I was the type of man that
Speaker 2: this young lady needed. My relationship has been normalized, but
Speaker 2: sometimes that don't happen. And they was like, until you
Speaker 2: do right by the Palestinians, we are not going to
Speaker 2: acknowledge you.
Speaker 3: And the people who've been leading that was Iran.
Speaker 2: Now it's not like Iran is some superhero in this story.
Speaker 2: Like we said, Iran ain't no superhero. But Iran is
Speaker 2: basically saying, none of us. Fuck with y'all. We don't
Speaker 2: why are you here? We are the resistance. So they
Speaker 2: started being coming behind groups like Hezbelah. Remember that because
Speaker 2: Iran in Lebanon been having the smoke with any of
Speaker 2: the Western nations because all Israel, all Israel is to
Speaker 2: them is just you're just an American outpost. We know
Speaker 2: what America does. You just like them, and you pretended
Speaker 2: to be one of us. We're supposed to feel bad
Speaker 2: for you. We don't understand how if you went through
Speaker 2: what you went through, why would you treat us this way?
Speaker 3: So Ron started backing people like Azballah.
Speaker 2: They started back in the Houthis feel like they going
Speaker 2: through the same thing a Yemen. They started back in
Speaker 2: Jumas and providing the bread, providing the guns because they
Speaker 2: was like y'all not even supposed to be here anyway.
Speaker 2: Now this does again, please hear what I'm saying. Iran
Speaker 2: ain't the heroes in the story. They are not the
Speaker 2: freedom fighters in this mug. They got their own agenda.
Speaker 2: But they thing was again, you, what you're doing, how
Speaker 2: you got here is all fraudulent, It is all wrong.
Speaker 3: It does not have to be this way.
Speaker 2: Now from us on the outside, who are not in
Speaker 2: the region, it was obvious to us who had a
Speaker 2: little bit of sense, you.
Speaker 3: Need two states. Israel doesn't have the right to exist.
Speaker 2: What you don't have the right to do is to
Speaker 2: exist on top of people that already exist.
Speaker 3: Is the point we're trying to make.
Speaker 2: And of course there are extremists on the israel side,
Speaker 2: you know, the Jewish clerics that believe that the Messiah
Speaker 2: coming until we hold this whole land river to the sea.
Speaker 2: There are Arabs on the Palestinian side that are like, no,
Speaker 2: you're right, you don't get to exist as a nation.
Speaker 2: Are you listening to me? Not as a people?
Speaker 3: But where.
Speaker 2: Is the human right that says you get to have
Speaker 2: a country? Like why do you get to have a
Speaker 2: what is this? Of course you can exist but I
Speaker 2: don't mean you get to have a country. So for
Speaker 2: the Zionists of the world, they're like, no, those are
Speaker 2: the same things. Existing means we need a country because
Speaker 2: everywhere we go we're kicked out of to which the.
Speaker 3: Arabs are like, nigga and water is wet. You think
Speaker 3: we ain't gone through this? You feel me? That's their
Speaker 3: attitude about it. Now.
Speaker 2: The issues that this brought up was to stay solution,
Speaker 2: what exactly isn'n apartheid? Should we do normalization? And is
Speaker 2: Benjamin Nett and Yahoo a war criminal? We talked about
Speaker 2: what is a genocide right and how South Africa was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I know what a genocide is and this is one
Speaker 2: your war criminal. But then we talked about how the
Speaker 2: UN and the International Justice Commission has a literal definition
Speaker 2: of what a genocide is. Now, is this a crime
Speaker 2: against humanity? It passes every test for that? Is it
Speaker 2: a genocide? With our eyes were like nigga, duh? And
Speaker 2: not only that, it's because of what Benjamin Nett and
Speaker 2: Yahoo said, We're trying to wipe We're trying to wipe
Speaker 2: y'all out. Now on one side of his mouth, he's saying,
Speaker 2: unless you agree with us.
Speaker 3: We're trying to wipe out Hamas.
Speaker 2: But they did the whole sprinklesome crack on him that
Speaker 2: we experience with the war on drugs, which is like
Speaker 2: we kill them because they they Hamas?
Speaker 3: Are they friends with Hamas?
Speaker 2: Now is people inside of net and Yahoo's cabinet who
Speaker 2: are this is all.
Speaker 3: Reviewed just in case we haven't got there yet.
Speaker 2: Uh's people inside of net Yahu's cabinet that's like, no,
Speaker 2: we need to wipe them out to where he's even like, bro,
Speaker 2: can you chill? Cus Like we can't. I'm saying to
Speaker 2: kill them all, all of them, And they like, if
Speaker 2: you sign this peace treaty, now it's not even a
Speaker 2: peace treaty. You signed this ceasefire. We're leaving and keep
Speaker 2: in mind. Simmering on this other pot is Net and
Speaker 2: Yahoo faces criminal charges that as soon as this nigga
Speaker 2: get out of office, he gona have to face drive.
Speaker 2: We did an episode of that too. But is he
Speaker 2: committing crimes against humanity? Are these war crimes? The starvation
Speaker 2: that's happening, the carnage, the death toll, the untarred targeted
Speaker 2: bombings that he says are targeted bombings just this over exortinent.
Speaker 2: You are doing way too much styles of warfare that
Speaker 2: he's doing, and the way for which you're doing it
Speaker 2: is very reminiscent to what happened to y'all as a people,
Speaker 2: So it brought up all these things.
Speaker 3: You've been doing this for years.
Speaker 2: You want us to normalize with you, but this is
Speaker 2: why we won't normalize with you. You're starving out your
Speaker 2: own people. And if your said goal was to root
Speaker 2: out terrorist groups like Hamas, you did the opposite. You
Speaker 2: are doing what every expert says is creating extremists by
Speaker 2: having the state come down with the carnage that it's
Speaker 2: coming down with. And speaking of carnage, let's go through
Speaker 2: the numbers now, I mean next.
Speaker 1: To the break.
Speaker 3: All right back.
Speaker 2: So you guys want to do it just by the numbers,
Speaker 2: So let's do it by the numbers. You guys ready
Speaker 2: for something really fun and so cool and so exciting.
Speaker 2: The official Palestinian Health Ministry count of more than forty
Speaker 2: six thousand, six hundred Palestinians dead amounts of more than
Speaker 2: ten times the amount of the count of losses in
Speaker 2: all previous Gaza conflicts since two thousand and eight. From
Speaker 2: early twenty twenty four, the ministry updated its breakdown of
Speaker 2: its facity of its fatalities to include unidentified bodies, which
Speaker 2: account for nearly a third.
Speaker 3: Of the overall toll. But let's go back.
Speaker 2: This is, according to Associated Press, the number of people
Speaker 2: killed in Israel around twelve hundred. The number of hostages
Speaker 2: taken into Gaza two hundred and fifty one. The number
Speaker 2: of hostages believed to be alive sixty two, including the
Speaker 2: two from October twenty two thousand October seventh, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: The number of captives believed to be dead is thirty six,
Speaker 2: including two from the October seventh.
Speaker 3: Ready for this.
Speaker 2: Number of Palestinians wounded in Gaza one hundred and nine
Speaker 2: thousand people. Number of militants that Israeli military says it's
Speaker 2: killed is over seventeen thousand. Now they haven't proven that,
Speaker 2: but that's what they said. Number of Israeli soldiers eight
Speaker 2: hundred and forty. Number of rockets fired from Gaza fire
Speaker 2: at Israel from Gaza is ten thousand.
Speaker 3: Displacement.
Speaker 2: The number of Palestinians displaced in Gaza is one point
Speaker 2: nine million. One point nine million people. That is ninety
Speaker 2: percent of Gaza's population. Can you imagine ninety percent of
Speaker 2: America losing their homes. Of Israelis displaced by attacks from
Speaker 2: Gaza at their peak is seventy five thousand, five hundred.
Speaker 2: Number of Israelis currently displaced are around seven thousand. But
Speaker 2: the percentage of the territory placed under Israeli evacuation, it's
Speaker 2: about ninety percent now. The destruction of Gaza, over one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six thousand structures have been broken. The
Speaker 2: number of housing units damaged or destroyed is over two
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five thousand homes. Sixty nine percent of
Speaker 2: Gaza is destroyed. US looking at videos of Eden, the
Speaker 2: Eden fired, of Altadna, of the Palisades, you know the flyovers.
Speaker 3: It feels so eerie.
Speaker 2: I have friends that are first responders that are working
Speaker 2: in that thing. Now, just the Palisades, you mentioned half
Speaker 2: of California. I just the total costs and damage from
Speaker 2: this war in the first three months is eighteen point
Speaker 2: five billion. Ninety two percent of their roads are destroyed,
Speaker 2: eighty four percent of health care facilities, sixty seven percent
Speaker 2: of water and sanitation facilities. Daily amount of untreated water
Speaker 2: and sewage flowing to the sea from Gaza is sixty
Speaker 2: thousand cubic meters. That's two point one million cubic feuw.
Speaker 2: The length of electrical grid destroyed five hundred and ten
Speaker 2: kilometers three hundred and twenty miles. It's Gaza's gone. Like
Speaker 2: that's the best way to say it. Gaza is gone.
Speaker 2: One of the things that is so infuriorating is every
Speaker 2: time there was a chance for a ceasefire net and
Speaker 2: Yahoo shot it down and would blame Hamas for it.
Speaker 2: It's frustrating because you know that's not the case.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Hamas was saying things very simple, which is like you
Speaker 2: have hundreds of people who are in jail for life
Speaker 2: for being suspected of being part of Hamas, will return
Speaker 2: your hostages if you fucking leave. Y'all been to the
Speaker 2: West Bank, Like of course you haven't been to the
Speaker 2: West Bank. That like you get like I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: we just want to exist and to know that most
Speaker 2: likely the ceasefire game that has been played is truly
Speaker 2: so that or quite possibly so that Donald Trump can
Speaker 2: get this w.
Speaker 3: And this is not to.
Speaker 2: Give Joe Biden any credit, but when you look at
Speaker 2: the ceasfire deal that's there. It's the same deal that
Speaker 2: was dead the whole time now, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: because of some programs I'm a part of. I have
Speaker 2: a print out parts of the negotiation deal that apparently
Speaker 2: if it's been sent to me then it's not top secret.
Speaker 2: But here are the points of the deal that I
Speaker 2: got sent to by negotiators of it. And that's a
Speaker 2: huge shout out to Qatar, Egypt and all the different
Speaker 2: people that worked really hard, because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, dude, like as much as I'm clearly expressing,
Speaker 2: this negotiating piece is really really, really hard, especially because
Speaker 2: we're talking about something that has existed for hundreds of years.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: This is not a peace treaty again, this is a ceasefire.
Speaker 2: It is temporary, and that difference matters, which is why
Speaker 2: I said this is a season finale and not a
Speaker 2: series finale. And my man Schamil shaml my Bad shamo
Speaker 2: Idris CEO Search for Common Ground, we had him on
Speaker 2: the first last year around this time to talk about
Speaker 2: this very thing. The way that he explains it is
Speaker 2: like a ceasefire is like a big gulp of oxygen.
Speaker 2: Nothing can happen, like he says, like, nothing can happen
Speaker 2: if you can't breathe, Like there's no we can't talk
Speaker 2: about any justice, any We can't talk about anything else
Speaker 2: until we can breathe, Like if you're drowning, and right
Speaker 2: now we're drowning in blood. He's like, if we can
Speaker 2: just at least get a gulp of air. So see
Speaker 2: the ceasefire as a gulp of air. It's just it's
Speaker 2: our first, and then we can deal with everything else
Speaker 2: after we can breathe. That is not to remove the
Speaker 2: celebration that Minnie Palestinians are feeling right now and the
Speaker 2: bliss that the families of return hostages are feeling right now.
Speaker 2: But understand that this is this is more like your
Speaker 2: first gulp of fresh air.
Speaker 3: And I want to give a shout out. I don't
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is I'm not going to shit on
Speaker 3: their work.
Speaker 2: A lot of times us like activists, will shit on
Speaker 2: the work that the really hard work that somebody got
Speaker 2: to do to even get it to this point. You know,
Speaker 2: I say this also being fully aware of what it's
Speaker 2: like to negotiate piece, or at least a ceasefire, a
Speaker 2: truce between rival neighborhoods, let alone rival nations. I'm going
Speaker 2: to read a few things from this appendix about which
Speaker 2: are like the deal points. So you're supposed to start
Speaker 2: the nineteenth and in the most shady way possible is
Speaker 2: re'll just throw in a bunch of extra licks, dropped
Speaker 2: a bunch of extra bombs.
Speaker 3: Hundred more people died because.
Speaker 2: It was like, well, we weren'tupposed to stop till nineteenth,
Speaker 2: Like the bel didn't ring yet, so we keep bombing.
Speaker 3: Just it's it's hard to cheer for, y'all.
Speaker 2: Now, okay, So the Stage two preparations the parties in
Speaker 2: the Mediator's objective is to achieve a final consensus to
Speaker 2: implement the May twenty seventh, which is my birthday, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, agreement of exchange of hostages and prisoners and
Speaker 2: the return of sustainable claim, which would achieve a permanent
Speaker 2: cease fire. Now keep in mind again, this is what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you. It's been on the table
Speaker 2: since May twenty seventh to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: So don't y'all dare give Trump the credit for this?
Speaker 2: All right, All procedures of the first stage will continue
Speaker 2: in Stage two, so as long as the negotiations and
Speaker 2: the conditions of implementing Stage two are ongoing, and the
Speaker 2: guarantee your cores of this agreement shall work to ensure
Speaker 2: the negotiations will continue until the agreement is reached. So
Speaker 2: here are the stages. The withdrawal of Israeli forces right
Speaker 2: eastwards from densely populated areas along the Gaza Strip, including
Speaker 2: Wadi Gaza right, and the Israeli forces will be deployed
Speaker 2: in a perimeter seven hundred meters with an exception of
Speaker 2: five localized points to be increased to no more than
Speaker 2: four hundred meters maps agreed on by both sides.
Speaker 3: Right prisoner exchange.
Speaker 2: The nine ill and wounded of the list of thirty
Speaker 2: three will be released in exchange for the one hundred
Speaker 2: and ten Palestinian prisoners with life sentences, is will release
Speaker 2: one thousand Gaza detainees elderly men.
Speaker 3: Kay, I can't read that. Not allowed to say that, right,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 2: Let me move on because some of this I'm not
Speaker 2: allowed to say.
Speaker 3: The Philadelphi Corridor.
Speaker 2: The israel Day side will gradually reduce its forces in
Speaker 2: the corridor area during stage one, based on the accompanying
Speaker 2: maps and agreement on both flies. And then after the
Speaker 2: last hostage is released from stage one on day forty two,
Speaker 2: the Israeli forces will begin to withdraw and complete with
Speaker 2: grin their withdrawal and complete it no later than day
Speaker 2: fifty on the Rafa Boarding crossing will be ready to
Speaker 2: transfer civilians and the wounded. After the release of all women,
Speaker 2: civilian and soldiers. Israel will work towards the readiness of
Speaker 2: this crossing as soon as the agreement is signed. There's
Speaker 2: an exit of all wounded civilians right and a return
Speaker 2: of unarmed and internally displaced. So these are the terms
Speaker 2: that I know of. And then the last one is
Speaker 2: the humanitarian aid protocol. Humanitarian aid procedures under this agreement
Speaker 2: will be done subject to the humanitarian protocol agreed upon
Speaker 2: under the.
Speaker 3: Two supervised mediators.
Speaker 2: Give our people back, let's exchange our people, let's put
Speaker 2: our guns down.
Speaker 3: Now, Clearly, this does not solve the two state solution issue.
Speaker 2: This does not fix the settlements in the West Bank.
Speaker 2: This will not change anyone's mind concerning their prejudice.
Speaker 3: But here's the thought.
Speaker 2: On the Hama side, nig you're out of guns, bro,
Speaker 2: because Hesbella got the ass whooked. The Houthis jumped in
Speaker 2: and they really didn't help. Iran's busy right now because
Speaker 2: the asside regimee just fell. You ain't got no backup
Speaker 2: because you are really really in sent advised to end
Speaker 2: this shit. On the Israeli side, all sympathies has left.
Speaker 2: No one has sympathy for you anymore. And you got
Speaker 2: a president coming in from America who is remember your pusher,
Speaker 2: who's like, if you don't end this shit, I'm blowing
Speaker 2: this mug up.
Speaker 3: Now. We don't know what that means. We just know that.
Speaker 2: Trump is so messy that it could mean a million things.
Speaker 2: Israel's incentivized to keep Trump on his side. On their
Speaker 2: side also because like I said that in Yahoo facing
Speaker 2: charges just like Trump is, so he's absolutely incentivized to like.
Speaker 3: Make sure the shit get done.
Speaker 2: And as of today, some people have returned home, which
Speaker 2: is something to try celebrate. People were able to come
Speaker 2: back and see the holes blew out of their houses,
Speaker 2: but at least the bomb stopped. Now, the last question
Speaker 2: I would ask y'all is who won this? We we
Speaker 2: think one is that even the right term Palestine can
Speaker 2: say if their hope was to remind the rest of
Speaker 2: the world of what they were going through. That's what
Speaker 2: they said, Or ask what Hama said. It's like we're
Speaker 2: trying to remind like y'all forgot about us. This is
Speaker 2: the only way to get everybody to pay attention to
Speaker 2: like the apartheid we existed under.
Speaker 3: Their entire city is destroyed.
Speaker 2: Like I said, of this of Goads's displaced, it's sewage,
Speaker 2: it's famine. This is gonna go on for decades, even
Speaker 2: if even after the bomb stops. Children are dead, the
Speaker 2: infrastructures destroyed. Hermasa is definitely not gone. But they got
Speaker 2: the world's attention. But they didn't wipe They did and
Speaker 2: get wiped out.
Speaker 3: Is that a win? It survived another round? Israel? Did
Speaker 3: you win?
Speaker 2: You wiped out ninety percent of Gaza. We didn't end
Speaker 2: jim As. Did you get your hostages back? I mean
Speaker 2: you could have got your hostages back on May in May,
Speaker 2: so that's not just what you wanted. Did you prove
Speaker 2: your point? You win your your big tough guy?
Speaker 3: Did you win?
Speaker 2: These are the questions when you grew up in the hood,
Speaker 2: like you know, and I say that loosely, like My
Speaker 2: upbringing wasn't that bad. Like it could have been much worse.
Speaker 2: It was split, you know, like I got to go
Speaker 2: to high school in the Inland Empire and it was nice.
Speaker 2: Now I didn't go all the way out to like
Speaker 2: the you know, Sam Fardino, I'd be different when went
Speaker 2: all the way out there no more, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But like my high school, it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 2: My neighborhood I'm from was wild, but definitely I hadn't
Speaker 2: experience what a lot of my friends experienced a lot
Speaker 2: of my family experience. But that being said, you get
Speaker 2: a little space from it. You was like, bust this mission,
Speaker 2: you know, you throw this fade, you know, you crash
Speaker 2: out here and there, Like.
Speaker 3: What's this? Did we win'?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 2: What did we accomplish? I don't know, man, nobody wins
Speaker 2: in the family feud. We'll see what next season holds
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