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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that takes you

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Speaker 1: inside the building that would be NRG Stadium and this

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Speaker 1: studio that would be the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I'm

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer with you, joined tonight by John McClain by

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Speaker 1: good buddy. We haven't been on the air together for

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. We had the draft last week.

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Speaker 1: He was on the pre Draft show with DP and

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Speaker 1: I've read your stuff, I've heard your stuff, John, and

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Speaker 1: here we go. Let's talk about the weekend that was

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Speaker 1: and what's going to happen and a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: when the Texans get out there for OTAs. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing. I'm doing great, Mark, Thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for asking. I'm fired up about the rookie minicamp to

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Speaker 1: OTA's and just the offseason program when we can come

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Speaker 1: over and watch the players. But you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: need to see Watt and Hopkins and all those guys.

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Speaker 1: I want to see the new free agents. I want

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Speaker 1: to see the undrafted free agents because we know a

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Speaker 1: couple of them will make the team. And then I

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Speaker 1: want to see the draft choices and the one of

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Speaker 1: them most fired up about Titus Howard of course, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance for the time the

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Speaker 1: game rolls around, based on how much the Texans like

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Speaker 1: Titus Howard that he'll be the starter at left tackle.

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Speaker 1: And then if Chantrell Henderson has made a really good

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Speaker 1: recovery from his broken ankle and he's ready to go

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't need to be nursed like Matt Khalil.

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Speaker 1: I thought he would be. They thought he would be

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Speaker 1: back in February, but he's done so well. When ota start,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing Chantrell Henderson can't do. And then Khalil's gonna

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Speaker 1: be brought a long slow and Mac Sharping's started at

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Speaker 1: both tackles and guards, so it wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: Henderson does well right tackle if he doesn't initially start

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Speaker 1: off at guard. Adding to the competition there with the

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Speaker 1: returning starters and Zach Fulton and cel callumt Day and

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Speaker 1: then a thing Martinez ranking will compete at left guard

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Speaker 1: and maybe Sharping at right guard. They got a lot

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Speaker 1: of depth, so I want to see those Gays. We

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Speaker 1: just say that they have a lot of depth on

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Speaker 1: the old and they do. You're right there. They've had

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Speaker 1: a lot of bodies here have you ever heard him

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Speaker 1: use the word versatility and the word vaguely. I've heard that, Yes,

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Speaker 1: they've got it in the offensive line, and eventually, I

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Speaker 1: mean we know eventually, doesn't know when the starters and

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Speaker 1: offensive line are gonna be Titus Howard left tackle, Mike

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Speaker 1: Sharping at right tackle because they were drafted in the

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Speaker 1: first in the second round, and Sharping, let's see, gave

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Speaker 1: up one sacond three years at Northern Illinois. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at a video that was posted by Rivers McCown,

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Speaker 1: one of the guys that covers him about knocking down

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Speaker 1: people on three levels, and he is three point nine nine.

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Speaker 1: I think he's either working on his masters or he

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Speaker 1: has a masters, and he can play either tackle or

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Speaker 1: he can play guard. He's six six three twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Howard can play either tackle, but he didn't get drafted

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Speaker 1: to play right you know, he's gonna be a left tackle.

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Speaker 1: And and I can't wait to see those guys in

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Speaker 1: drills eventually against Watt in practice because they're not going

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Speaker 1: to hit each other and practice they can't where they

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Speaker 1: can't wear shoulder pads. But I just want to see

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Speaker 1: when JJ is rushing and they're not going full speed.

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Speaker 1: They're using their hands at everything. Now he moves his feet.

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Speaker 1: And the one I really want to see, and we

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Speaker 1: can see him a lot because they throw passes and

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Speaker 1: they catch passes is the tight end, Collie Waring. And

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Speaker 1: I never thought, never considered that the Texans would draft

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Speaker 1: a tight end. Once Darren Fells was signed in free agency.

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Speaker 1: That gave the Texans four tight ends. And I know

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Speaker 1: and you know how much they love Jordan Akins and

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Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas. Those guys ought to be making their biggest

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Speaker 1: improvement this offseason getting ready for next season. And then

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Speaker 1: I think Holly Waring is like a combination of them.

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Speaker 1: He can run like Jordan Aikins. He's big, and he's

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Speaker 1: a he's a fierce blocker who wants to be a

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Speaker 1: good blocker. He's six five and a half and he's

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Speaker 1: they'll be molding that clay and it may take him

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Speaker 1: a while to develop, but they've never had a tight

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Speaker 1: end with his size, speed, receiving and blocking. Potential. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: potential is a great word there, and look, you have

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Speaker 1: to reach it, there's no question about it. But with

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Speaker 1: every draft choice they have, and a lot of the

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agents and maybe all of them, they feel

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Speaker 1: like they have the psychological profile they're looking for, which

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard to identify. But I've done a

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Speaker 1: have a system. They have a way of trying to

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Speaker 1: figure that out the best way possible for them to

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Speaker 1: see if a guy is going to fit that profile

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Speaker 1: they're looking for, if he's going to put it all

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Speaker 1: into the game and continue to improve, because that's what

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Speaker 1: it's all about. They all started a certain place. Great,

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Speaker 1: they have talent, they have potential, but they've got to

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Speaker 1: elevate their game constantly. It's a out culture that's important

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Speaker 1: to gaining O'Brien, cal McNair and James McNair and Bob

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Speaker 1: you know, they're not gonna be bringing in any guys

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Speaker 1: think you can win with good people and culture, and

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Speaker 1: that's important. Guys that fit builds always talking about good teammates,

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Speaker 1: Well they check. You know, if if a lot of

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Speaker 1: people thought they would trade up to get Andre Dillard,

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Speaker 1: well they could have traded up and get Andre Dillard,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't do it. They were never gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: And but if they didn't like if people didn't like

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Speaker 1: the Titus Howard Pick, that's fine any but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: because they didn't do their homework. They met with him

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Speaker 1: of his school, brought him in here, and you had

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Speaker 1: and saying well, he came in as a tight end.

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Speaker 1: Instead he went to Alabama State, and look what happened

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Speaker 1: to him. Believe me, if he was coming out of

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Speaker 1: those schools. There's a lot of guys in a Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame offensive lineman who came from small schools.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons you see so many offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: the things I liked about how and I make a

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Speaker 1: joke about this every year once O'Brien talks of these

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Speaker 1: his name, rank and uniform number. He was funny, you

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Speaker 1: know that tweet he had did the morning of the draft.

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Speaker 1: You put me in a gorilla in the phone booth,

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Speaker 1: and you better pray for that guerrilla. And then the

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Speaker 1: other one was this was great. His mother disclosed that

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Speaker 1: his nickname is Weenie. Yeah, that is going to be

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Speaker 1: used again, and he was asked by Mark Berman about

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Speaker 1: he said, well, people don't call me Weenie very much anymore.

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Speaker 1: Me and I'm so big, he said, now they call

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Speaker 1: me hot link. And I thought that was so funny.

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Speaker 1: The guy's got a good personality. And I remind people

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Speaker 1: they take him is? I tweeted and sat on six

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Speaker 1: ten and wrote in the Chronicle it's the exact same

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Speaker 1: reaction in two thousand and eight for Dwayne Brown. He

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Speaker 1: hadn't been projected in the first round in mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: and people are like, oh my god, they reached for

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Speaker 1: rotated with THEE from Slampson until he was ready to start.

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Speaker 1: Then he was the best offensive lineman in team history.

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Speaker 1: And I also thought it was very interesting Mark, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know this till right before the draft. From

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two two through twenty eighteen drafted two

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Speaker 1: offensive tackles in the first two rounds, Chester Pitts and

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown. On Thursday and Friday, they drafted two in

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Speaker 1: the first two rounds, Titus Howard and Max Sharping. And

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Speaker 1: it shows you the need at that particular position group.

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Speaker 1: But as you pointed out, John, it does really change

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Speaker 1: the depth chart. In fact, you could comfortably say who

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Speaker 1: the ten guys, and I say ten guys would be

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Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster. If it's only nine,

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Speaker 1: then you have some tough cuts here. But when you

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Speaker 1: look at Titus Howard and at left tackle, and you

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Speaker 1: look at maybe Sean Trelle Henderson at right or Max

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Speaker 1: Sharping if he happens to win the job, then you

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Speaker 1: look at Zach Fulton at garden, Nick Martin at center

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Speaker 1: and he said his rank it't going anywhere, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he can move inside to guard or it's Sennel Killamente still,

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Speaker 1: but maybe Rankin wins the job there. And here's why versatility.

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Speaker 1: And you tell me if you think I'm right, here's

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Speaker 1: why versatility excites them. This is why they keep talking

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Speaker 1: about it because you can only dress seven for game day, really,

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Speaker 1: so it excites them when they have a tackle that

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Speaker 1: on occasion, Because guys get hurt during games. This just

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Speaker 1: in and when you have a guy that you feel

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Speaker 1: like you can plug and play at a guard spot,

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Speaker 1: who's a tackle that's exciting to them. This is the

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Speaker 1: world they live in. You know, when we are at

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Speaker 1: we're not thinking of these things. They're thinking of I

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Speaker 1: only dress seven on game day. I need options. And

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Speaker 1: if they have options, they feel good about it. Remember

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Speaker 1: a couple of times last year if another guy gotn't hurt,

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Speaker 1: they would have to play a tight end to tackle

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Speaker 1: because they were out. And because of the Luce Draft.

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Speaker 1: You didn't think, I don't think, you said Greg Man's

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Speaker 1: Greg played center and guard. I wasn't done yet. Killamente's

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Speaker 1: played every POSI edition in New Orleans across the front.

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Speaker 1: So the thing about young guys to me, you don't

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Speaker 1: move them around. I don't want to hear versatility was

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Speaker 1: sharping and Howard they did that with Xavier Philo and

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Speaker 1: it impeded his problem. I think they were looking for

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Speaker 1: these well, I don't know why he was a guard,

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Speaker 1: It should have been a guard. And these guys their tackles.

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Speaker 1: Let them learn tackle before you start moving them. Let

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Speaker 1: them make sure they've adjusted to the NFL. Both don't

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Speaker 1: come from Power five conferences, and both of them got

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Speaker 1: the talent to come in here and start at some point.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a lot of fun watching their development,

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Speaker 1: beginning with the rookie minicamp. I think at left tackle,

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Speaker 1: MINIICAP next week. For the Texans, it's Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: John McClain with US Thursday evening Texans All Access. Great

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Speaker 1: to have you listening. It's always fun to talk Texans

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Speaker 1: in the United States of America. But I do love

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Speaker 1: basketball too, So good luck to the Rockets. Another down

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. And by the way, NBA, just this memo

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Speaker 1: can we I mean, it's just such a long wait. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: John how does the former Charger hang in there? He started,

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Speaker 1: But they need insurance and wide receiver. We all know

428
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Speaker 1: that with the injury situations and keeping on Gester. We

429
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Speaker 1: acted free agent from Pitt last year made the Ractor

430
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: squad and actually I thought coming out of camp if

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Speaker 1: they kept one they would keep him over Vincent Smith.

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Speaker 1: But they kept Vincent. Those guys ought to make improvement.

433
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Speaker 1: And the thing about Johnny Dixon, you know this, I

434
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Speaker 1: hate to say this name because people over the next

435
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: few years is going to be hearing about it more

436
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Speaker 1: than they want. Paris Campbell. Yeah, Paris Campbell six foot

437
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: two h five rand of four to three one, him

438
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 1: getting nauseous, yep plays for the Colts to be out

439
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: there with t Y Hill. I'm gonna throw up. So

440
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Speaker 1: Dixon took a back seat to Campbell, who was a

441
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Speaker 1: second round pick. And but Dixon has playing playing with

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. He did really well, and he's fast and

443
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Speaker 1: he's got good enough size. He could come in here

444
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Speaker 1: and surprise a lot of people. And I think they

445
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Speaker 1: gave Texas to you today. You don't want to be

446
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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. You want to be an undrafted

447
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: free agent with options, because then you didn't get more money.

448
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: Didn't Buffalo pay Tyree Jackson, quarterback seventy thousand dollars to

449
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Speaker 1: sign with them as an undrafted quarterback. Yeah, you get

450
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: a little bonus, sometimes better than being a seventh round

451
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Speaker 1: pick when you got to take the leftovers, like the

452
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: scraps on the table financially and and so I know

453
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Speaker 1: they're fired up about these guys that got him quick,

454
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: which meant they had their scouts working on him ahead

455
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Speaker 1: of time. You know, you start calling these agents about

456
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: the fifth round and say we love your guy, and

457
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: then they're going, well, if you love him, you draft him,

458
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: but we might need another position, but just keep us

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Speaker 1: in mind. And I think because of their success right

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Speaker 1: here with undrafted free agents, agents know it's a good

461
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Speaker 1: place to go. Absolutely all right, a couple of other

462
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: draft choices to get to here, and let's go in

463
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Speaker 1: reverse here. Cullen Gillaspia, the Aggy. I love him. I

464
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Speaker 1: love this pick because of all the off field stuff

465
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Speaker 1: so far, and and the onfield stuff he did in college.

466
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Speaker 1: Great special teams player, blocked a couple of punts, blocked

467
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Speaker 1: up punt against Alabama. You know he can catch the

468
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: ball too a little bit. This could be really interesting

469
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: and it's certainly gonna be fun to follow in the preseason.

470
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Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes. Gain made sure that he's

471
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Speaker 1: satisfied the two biggest fan bases in Houston, the Longhorns

472
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Speaker 1: in the fifth round with Charles Minny, who might be

473
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Speaker 1: able to help him with the pass rush, and then

474
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Speaker 1: with Colin Glaspie, the first twelfth man to be scored

475
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: touchdown at a and m first twelfth man to be drafted.

476
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Speaker 1: And what I loved was the video in which he

477
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Speaker 1: stood up and he screamed at his draft party and

478
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: then he sabbed like a baby with his dad. Can

479
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Speaker 1: sold him? Don't they wish every time they selected a

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Speaker 1: player he screamed and then sobbed like a baby. So

481
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Speaker 1: as soon as he gets out here. Because he's six one,

482
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Speaker 1: two thirty five, he ran the four or fives at

483
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Speaker 1: the Aggies Pro Day, he was a fullback, a tight end,

484
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Speaker 1: a linebacker, and special teams. They designate him as a fullback,

485
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Speaker 1: which means he couldn't get the number twelve, but they

486
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Speaker 1: gave him the number forty four, and maybe they thought

487
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Speaker 1: about this, but I'm guessing they didn't. The Aggie's first

488
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Speaker 1: Heisman winner, former athletic director number one picking draft John

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Speaker 1: David Crow wore forty four. And so he's gonna be

490
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, fans love players that charge down the field.

491
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Speaker 1: And yeah, and problem is you can do it. You

492
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: can't do it like you used to on kickoff anymore

493
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: when Spencer Tillman was a rookie in eighty seven, and

494
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Speaker 1: really Spencer, he made his living with the Oilers forty

495
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: nine ers and then the Oilers charging down the field

496
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: as a wedge and breaking up kicks and all. And

497
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I could see Gillesbiean doing that too. People are gonna

498
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: love him because he's gonna come in with a fan base.

499
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: He's the media knows who he is. I gave way

500
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: to meet the kid, and we'll see him next weekend.

501
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: And maybe Bill's gonna incorporate a fullback again, who knows.

502
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: But he didn't get drafted in the seventh round play fullback.

503
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: He got it to run down the field, make tackles.

504
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: John McClean is with us. John hinted at some other

505
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: AFC South action in the draft that we've been talking

506
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: a lot about that. But we'll get his spin on

507
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: things and also his take on the Game of Thrones

508
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: battle and how it applies to the n Yeah, somehow

509
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: we can make this work. I believe he can, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio. The General hangs around with us in

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Speaker 1: the hunday Texans Radio Studios, Texans All Access. John McClain

512
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: with us, Mark Vandermyer with you, and let's rock here now.

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Speaker 1: The General tweeted something out today that the Lions are

514
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: coming here. We all know that week two of the preseason,

515
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be more activity than previously thought. Maybe. Well,

516
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm like you, I'm real fired up about going

517
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Speaker 1: to Green Bay spending some times at the Cathedral because

518
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Speaker 1: you've got the joint practices against the Packers before the game.

519
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: And then we figured that with Mapatrician, former Patriot coach

520
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: for the Lions, they might do it. And they are.

521
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have joint practices here against the Lions before

522
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: they played the August seventeenth preseason. And I'm sure you're

523
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Speaker 1: like me. I'd give me a joint practice any day

524
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: of the week over practicing against each other, especially the

525
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: individual drills. I love. Wait going up against off defensive

526
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Speaker 1: ends and watching them be an awe and Clowney going,

527
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Speaker 1: although I don't think Clowney will be here, but I

528
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be great. You get the Packers and

529
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: you get the Lions, and you get probably four joint practices.

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00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: That's going to be great. It will be, and it'll

531
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: be a little warm, but the Lions will just have

532
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: to get over it. That's just the way it is.

533
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Speaker 1: Tom Dad, I'm looking forward to Kareen Bay, John because

534
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: I think of all the NFL cities, that's the one

535
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: that plays in the most authentic NFL city. Really, you

536
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: could say the Bears, of course, but you get lost

537
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: in the city of Chicago Green Bay. You feel like

538
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: it's all about the Packers and the way they've set

539
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: up their building in their facility. It's great for the fans,

540
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: great for anybody who goes up there. And the practices

541
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: will be packed. Oh absolutely. And the museum, the Package Museum.

542
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, congratulations the long time Oilers Linebackers

543
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Special Teams captain Ted Thompson, who is about to be

544
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 1: inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame. A lot of

545
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: his former teammates from the Oilers are going all the

546
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: people from around the league that used to work for

547
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: him and became general manager. Ted retired moved back to

548
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: his hometown of Atlanta, Texas, which is up close to

549
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: text Or Canna. His dad is still live, so Ted

550
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: lives there and he'll be honored by the Packers and

551
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: it's a great deal for him. And I can't wait

552
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: to go up there, I thought first time I went

553
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: to the Cheese League covering the NFL, I couldn't wait

554
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: to get up there and get some cooler weather. My goodness,

555
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: market was hot up there, and it would be. It was.

556
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: It was. It was not just hot, but it was

557
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: more humidity. And I'm like, if I want humidity, I'll

558
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: go back home. It does happen up there. I lived

559
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: in Michigan, same kind of latitude for four years and

560
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: it can't. You can't get a heat wave up there,

561
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: and it'll knock you out because they're just not used

562
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: to it. There are a lot of places that just

563
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: don't have the right kind of air conditioning. They're just

564
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: not used to it. They've got heat up there, believe me.

565
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: But you can get the heat wave. The greatest tradition

566
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL is the Packers training camp. When JJ

567
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: did this when he was a little kid and they'd

568
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: come up from Milwaukee, and in which the kids have

569
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Speaker 1: their bicycles. Players are walking across the parking lot. The

570
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: kids give them their little bicycles and the players get

571
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: on those bicycles and ride them, and they give the

572
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: kids the shoulder pads the helmets and they walk along

573
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 1: with them. And that's such an incredible tradition. Oh, of

574
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: course he will the cameras. Can you imagine what the

575
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: contingent of cameras is going to be, Like, he's gonna

576
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: steal the show. He'll steal the show up air from

577
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: I think because he's given a commencement address and because

578
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: he's big up there and he loves Wisconsin. I'm not

579
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna steal the spotlight from Aaron Rodgers, but

580
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna steal it from every other Packer. And he'll

581
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: be big deal because the media up there, we'll have

582
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: been writing about the Packers, so they'll be what's gonna

583
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: get a lot of attention, and nobody knows how to

584
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: handle it better than JJ. Well, getting less attention but

585
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: still significant in his personal life. Max Sharpings from Wisconsin,

586
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: so is Bay and he couldn't get Wisconsin to give

587
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: him a scholarship, just like what couldn't So he went

588
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: to Northern Illinois with which is two hundred and thirty

589
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: six miles. I looked it up. You did very good.

590
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: If you had pulled that right out of the top

591
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Speaker 1: of your head, I would say you're John Harris or something. Okay,

592
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm not a John Harris. I can tell you that.

593
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: Rest of the AFC South John, We've been talking about

594
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: it this week. Who did the best? I think any Well,

595
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: First of all, Jacksonville got the equivalent of two first

596
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: round picks. They didn't know Josh Allen the defensive end

597
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: was going to drop down to them. Yeah, they think

598
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: about this. This Huayian need tackles and Deeclean, Jannick, Hayden

599
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: and Goway is gonna be rushing on one end. Josh

600
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: Allen's gonna be rushing on the other. Calaius Campbell's gonna

601
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: be rushing from the inside along with last year's number

602
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Speaker 1: one picked, Tavn Brian or a former number one pick,

603
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius. So that's that's your defensive line from Jacksonville.

604
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Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor. I had him mocked to them with a

605
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: seventh pick and half my mock drafts General Williams was

606
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Speaker 1: the rest. Then he falls into their laps in the

607
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: second round. Out after that, I wasn't that I pressed.

608
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: They got to tight end in third round named Josh Oliver,

609
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: and they needed tight end, but having Alan and Taylor's

610
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: like having two number one. The Cols Chris Ballard traded

611
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: out of the first round. He had three picks in

612
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Speaker 1: the second round, beginning with corner Rock your sin. I

613
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: thought there was a chance. I knew he would never

614
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: come here because he wasn't going to be available when

615
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: they picked, but he would have been a really good fit.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Colts had another real good draft Paris

617
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Campbell we mentioned earlier four three one out there with

618
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Speaker 1: t Y Hilton. Yeah, that's gonna make even more trouble

619
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Speaker 1: for defensive backs. And the Titans took a heck of

620
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: a chance on a player jeff Jeffrey Simmons from Mississippi State,

621
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: who would have been a top ten pick, maybe the

622
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: second and third defensive tackle if he hadn't blown out

623
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Speaker 1: as acl preparing for the Combine, and he had in

624
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: high school. The video. ESPN showed us over and over,

625
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: but they didn't do anything the first night on Tyreek Kill,

626
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: and so they showed this. Simmons' sister was in a fight.

627
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: He broke it up. He got a woman on the

628
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: ground and stood of walking away. He hit punched her

629
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: three or four times. Oh god, But Eric Mississippi State,

630
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: everybody said he was exemplary. He's apologized a million times.

631
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Speaker 1: And I always think guys deserve a second chance, and

632
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they deserve a third one like Tyree

633
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Speaker 1: Kill would get. But I thought Simmons was a great pick,

634
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: but he's probably not going to play for two and

635
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: twenty and they I thought the Titans had a pretty

636
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: good draft, and I thought Cleveland, I mean, since Indianapolis

637
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: had a really good one in the second round and

638
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: Jacksonville had two good picks in the first two rounds. Well,

639
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Speaker 1: you never know until you know, No, you're not Jacksonville.

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00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: It is impressive when you throw Nick Foles on top

641
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: of all that, and the fact that they had a

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00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: really good defense last year and some of their wins

643
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: were impressive. Let's face it, you beat the Cold six nothing,

644
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: you beat the Patriots soundly. I mean I know they

645
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: didn't have a bunch of wins, but the ones they

646
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: got among the ones they got were pretty good. So

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00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: let's just see what they do this year. I think

648
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: it's the best division in football. I think it's the best,

649
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: top to bottom, toughest, most competitive. And Jacksonville last year,

650
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: which had a lot of internal problems on Vergemen ploating,

651
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: they got three of their best players in Galway and

652
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: h Jalen Ramsey and Telvin Smith. None of them are

653
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: at the offseason program because they all want well. Ramsey

654
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: not looking for more money, he's just being obstinate working

655
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: out in Nashville where he's from, with his dad's facility.

656
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: But it's like the Texans have everybody but Clowney, and

657
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: Clowney didn't sign, so we all knew he wasn't gonna

658
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: be here. But I think it's a bad look when

659
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior and Levon Bail it's not gonna have

660
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: anything to do once the season starts. But to me,

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00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: if you get all that money and it's such a

662
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: big deal that you're there, you ought to be there

663
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: helping lead the team, setting an example. What else do

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Speaker 1: you have to do? Really, this is your life. They're

665
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: working out, they're just not working out with their team.

666
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Well why not, especially when you're a new player. And John,

667
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: it's not like you're there ten hours a day this

668
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: time of year. You know it's a few hours a

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Speaker 1: day you're with the guys. Why wouldn't you want to

670
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: be there and you can? You know it's only four

671
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: or five days a week, depending on the week. I

672
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: mean when I look at Jillian Ramsey and Yannick and

673
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: Gockway not being with the Jaguars, I'm thinking, good, all right.

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00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: I hope they have dissension. I hope it's all a

675
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: big meltdown for them. Not that I like bad things

676
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: to happen to Texans opponents, not that I like that

677
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: or anything. Not really bad, just a little bit bad

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00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: on the field. You were You remember last year when

679
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: you were saying all those ugly things about Andrew Luck

680
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: not coming back and all that. I wasn't ugly too. Andrew.

681
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: I'm not recommended that he retired for his own safety. Yes,

682
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: and I still do. And he didn't take your advice.

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Speaker 1: I'd tell you something that and I think said this

684
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: or written it a couple of times. If Tom Coughlin

685
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: pulls the plug on Doug Morone. Most people think Doug

686
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: Morone is if he didn't get the playoffs, he's gonna

687
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: be gone, because last year they were a huge disappointment. Playoffs. Really,

688
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: I think nine and seven would be great considering where

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00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: they were. But go on, and then there's rumors that

690
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: I've heard that I've said this, that Kauflin would be

691
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: interested in hiring Matt rule Man, who interviewed with the

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00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Jets and interviewed with the Colts the year before and

693
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: his one year in the NFL was working for Couflin

694
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: with the Giants. But I'm heard that Coughlin's role hound him,

695
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: and as a Baylor fan, I wouldn't like that. I'd

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00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: wish him the best. But that's something I'm going to

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00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: keep a close sound just for that reason. I'm sure

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00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: you will. Okay, some other things to get to today,

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00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: regarding the National Football League, the draft grades, John, and

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00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: I went back a few years to look at your grades. Now.

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: I know the Texans have been graded poorly by some

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00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: with this draft. I don't even care about that. Of course,

703
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: people gave him good drafts too, but of course they

704
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: were getting all as I'd be shouting it from a rooftop.

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00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: So I don't know what to say about that. But

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00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: you're a pretty tough greater historically on a lot of teams.

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00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: You know, I went back two years. You gave a

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00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: lot of teams sees, and I applaud you for that.

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00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: Because some of these guys, I wish I had professors

710
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: like them, because I forget who it was. Some Arizona

711
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: had a good grade on their draft last year. You know, oh,

712
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: you're drafted Rosen and the other guys they drafted a well,

713
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Apparently it didn't work out for them on the field.

714
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Not that one draft is gonna make all the difference.

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00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: If Kimes really been drafting that well, they should really

716
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: come around very quickly here. I know it's a tough division,

717
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: but you should win more than you won. Last year.

718
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I gave the Texans a B minus. And the reason

719
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: is I didn't have Howard going in the first round,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't have Sharping. I had Hours a second,

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Speaker 1: and Sharping's third, So I can't all of a sudden

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00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: give them a better grade when I didn't have those

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Speaker 1: guys going in the first round. I did have Tward

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Speaker 1: going to in the first round a couple of my

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00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: early Martin dradd But how about this, you had Chad

726
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: Ford probably going in round one, right, him going in

727
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: round one, and he and Taylor and Taylor Greedy Williams.

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00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: I had them going first round. In all times they

729
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: all drop out and that's all the teams and they

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00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: let them go, which proves to be one thing. Yeah,

731
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: the teams don't draft perfectly, that is clear, but they

732
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: have access to way more information than you or me

733
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: or any draft blogger or whatever. Obviously, Bill Polly and

734
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: I was listening to him to day after the first round,

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00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: and I respect Bills in the Hall of Fame because

736
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: it was person mal acumen. And he he was praising

737
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: Titus Howard. He was talking about seeing him at the

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00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, how well he did. He thought it was

739
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: a good pick, and he also pointed out Senior Bolt.

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00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: He also pointed out something I've always believed. Bill Walsh

741
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: used to say, it doesn't matter where when you draft him,

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00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: it's how they played. Just give them, give them, be

743
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: patient with them. And he said something I thought was

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00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: very interesting, and I don't know if I agree with

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00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: it or not. He said, even the best so called

746
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: expert in the media, and he said, I'm counting ex

747
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: players and general managers only have about forty of the

748
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: knowledge and information that people with teams have. It's because

749
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: they don't have access to all that like they did.

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00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: If they're a former general manager and you're own ESPN

751
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: or them FROL network, you don't have the same axis

752
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: as you did. And he said, mistakes are made, of course,

753
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: but it's not because you don't have information. And I

754
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: thought that was very interesting because I know I certainly didn't.

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00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: I didn't see Mac Sharping play. I didn't see Titus

756
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: Howard play. You know. I was going by everything I

757
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: read or heard from people I trusted, and I thought

758
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: that was just very interesting. And I'd say that's probably true,

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00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: all right, John. A couple of minutes left here, and

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00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones was on Sunday. It's on every Sunday

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00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: for a six week period as they go out three. Yeah,

762
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: so that was a big battle, you know, And just

763
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: like we're used to watching games, you know what else

764
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm used to watching Since Lord of the Rings, Really,

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00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: in this modern ish era of cinema, I've seen a

766
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Speaker 1: lot of battles, just like I've seen a lot of games.

767
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of battles with archers and a

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00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: castle and you're protecting a castle and the bad guys

769
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: are trying to climb the wall. I mean, how many

770
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: times have we seen this in cinema in the last

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00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: twenty years? A ton? Am I right, of course a ton.

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00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: So we saw it again on something that by the way,

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00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, probably some spoilers will get out here, So

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00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen the last episode, then maybe sort

775
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: of starts. Let me just tell you something. This was

776
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: the Battle of the of winter Fell, right, And I thought,

777
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: and I've watched it three times, and the reason is

778
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: because it was filmed at night over fifty five days,

779
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: and it's cold, it was snowing, and it's it's dark.

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00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: The cinematographer and the director wanted us to be confused

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00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: about what we were. They did a good job of

782
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: that because they thought the people there, they wanted us

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00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: to see how they were. And like, it's hard when

784
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: it's dark, when somebody gets killed a good guy and

785
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: then he raises up and joins the Army of the dead,

786
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: and it's so unfair. Comes a white walker. And so

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00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: I've watched it and the cinematographer said in an interview,

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00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: I saw, well, people don't know how to adjust their

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00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: brightness anymore. That's bs because the director said, we wanted

790
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: it to be confusing, a just uprightness. What am I

791
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: with a nineteen seventy eight Zenith back in my shag

792
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: carpeting living room with my parents? Like? Just the brightness,

793
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: the horizontal hole. Don't forget the contrast. I forgot the horizontal.

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00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, do TVs have horizontal Well, I'm gonna know

795
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It's when you're the frame used

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00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: to keep going like people a little more seasoned are

797
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: totally understanding what I'm talking about. How about in college

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00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: the TV I had with a hangar stuck in the

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00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: top of it as the antenna and we had to

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00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: turn the channel with a fork. I was talking to

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00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: a friend of mine to day about this and he

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00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: I said, I don't even know if about TV's got

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00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: a brightness on it. He said, your remote under menu,

804
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: and I said, you don't have to touch it. That's fine.

805
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: So I thought some of the scenes on there were great.

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00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: I thought the music, when you listen to the music,

807
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Speaker 1: the music was perfect for the suspense and the scenes

808
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: in particular that I thought were great was the one

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00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: where Melissandra lit the one the site that the Rockey

810
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: us and then it everything and you mean the which woman.

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00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: And then when Aria was inside the tombs and it

812
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: was like the velse raptors in Jurassic Park trying to

813
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: dodge the White Walkers there. I thought that was a

814
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: great scene. When the when they were all down in

815
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: the crib hiding and all of a sudden, yeah, we

816
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: know what happened. The night King raised the dead and

817
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: the hand started coming out of the coffins where they

818
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: knew that was coming to Well, how about the ringer

819
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: was talking about Jordan with the switching the hand, switching

820
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: the ball hand to hand and Aria's big moment in

821
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: the show, I thought that was great. I watched her

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00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: practice that in a video where she practiced that with

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Speaker 1: Brand of Tarth in which they're out there in your

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Speaker 1: yoga outfits and Brand is swinging at her and she's

825
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: whipping it back between right and left hand and she

826
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: was even flipping it like a baton. Wait wait this

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Speaker 1: is a video of the actresses or oh, interesting, like

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00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: in some room they're practice. Interesting, Well, that was your

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Speaker 1: game of Thrones. Update for today, John, what do you

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Speaker 1: have going out on the Chronicle. I've got a column

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00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: going side about the Texans. On Monday, I'll go out

832
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: to their annual charity golf tournament and write about that.

833
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: And I've got a podcast. We have a podcast posted today,

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Speaker 1: and I'll have a mailbag posted in the morning. Thank

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00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: you very much for asking. Thank you, John, And tomorrow

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Speaker 1: we'll be back on at six John Harris and myself,

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00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: we'll bring it to you and we're gonna rerun our

838
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: Draft special Saturday night at eleven o'clock on ABC thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Check it out. Checkout Houston Texans dot com for all

840
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: the videos, all the articles, all the info on your

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00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Have a great night and go Texans.