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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life,

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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.

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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after

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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full

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Speaker 1: episode or Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig

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Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking

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Speaker 1: about this week's full episode subject, Alison Chains. We play

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Speaker 1: Fuck Mary Kill with your favorite grunge bands, as well

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Speaker 1: as a bit of a deeper dive into our Hollywood

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Speaker 1: Land spin off series, and we get into your voicemails,

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Speaker 1: text DMS, emails and as always, a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: row See all right, discos, let's get into it. Barry Ford,

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Speaker 1: one of our discos in the Patreon chat, made a

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Speaker 1: comment in the chat the other day about Alice in Chains.

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing Barry, but he basically said he loves Alice

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Speaker 1: in Chains but doesn't consider them grunge. He considers them

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Speaker 1: heavy metal, and I agree with that. I think that Jerry, Cantrell,

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Speaker 1: band or perhaps a rock band. Barry goes on to

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Speaker 1: say that Alison Chains for the beginning of the end

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Speaker 1: for the hair metal of the eighties, and here I

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Speaker 1: think Barry is spot on once again. However, Alice in Chains,

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Speaker 1: despite their late eighties emergence, despite their metal heavosity, and

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Speaker 1: I know that's not a word, despite all that, they

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Speaker 1: But them's the breaks. As they say, there are worse

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Speaker 1: places to be at worst times in history than Seattle

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Speaker 1: in the late eighties in the early nineties. So Alice

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Speaker 1: in Chains are indeed grunge, just as Sound Garden and

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Speaker 1: mud Honey and Nirvana and you know the list. I

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into it. I saw the Melvins too,

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Speaker 1: and they were most certainly the best of the nineties

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Speaker 1: grunge bands in my opinion, or one of them top two.

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Speaker 1: I think they're fucking great. They're better than Pearl Jam.

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Speaker 1: I saw the Melvins at Babyhead and Providence, Rhode Island.

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Speaker 1: I want to say it was with Helmet, but that

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Speaker 1: seems like just too much heaviness for one bill at

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Speaker 1: that time in the nineties. Also saw the Rollins Band

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Speaker 1: there in quick Sand. I'm getting off point. What's my yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, grunge. Yes, the word grunge sucks, but ask

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Speaker 1: it grunge and Alice in Chains. They are one in

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Speaker 1: the same now. I like Alison Chains. I always have,

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Speaker 1: ever since I heard their first MTV hit, Man in

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Speaker 1: the Box, which I think is the band's finest moment.

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Speaker 1: It's an incredible song, great riff, great vocal. I'm not

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Speaker 1: think it's less like six or seven songs. But where

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. As far as so

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Speaker 1: bad grunge bands, which means that they cannot be easily ranked.

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Speaker 1: So with about ten seconds of Internet research right here,

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Speaker 1: Drum roll please Green River? Now? Somehow I think this

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Speaker 1: But let's see who gold Mine has for number two

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Speaker 1: Alice in Chains and it's Alice in Chains Dirt. Huh.

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Speaker 1: They have Alice in Chains's Dirt as the second best

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Speaker 1: grunge album of all time. I quibble with the ranking

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Speaker 1: What do ladies think of Alice in Chains? Are they

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Speaker 1: this equation? I don't know. Fuck Mary kill Pearl Jam,

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Speaker 1: Alison chains Green River. Fuck Alison Chains kill Green River?

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna marry Green River. Fuck's sake? See what

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Speaker 1: You're definitely killing Green River and Mary in Pearl Jam.

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Speaker 1: You know Eddie Vedder? Isn't it for the long haul? All? Right?

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Speaker 1: To recap Green River in their album Rehab Doll at

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Speaker 1: Nirvana Bleach, Damn. I gotta say this list is some

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Speaker 1: jack black, high fidelity, obnoxious record clerk type shit. Is

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Speaker 1: Bleach better than never Mind? That's a really good question.

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Speaker 1: Is is it even better than an Utero? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I need to. It's fucking awesome. I gotta say. When

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Speaker 1: Perhaps Nirvana Bleach should be even higher. And that's because

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Speaker 4: Okay, Number four, what do the big brained, big eared,

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, this is fucked up pauw dragline. This

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Speaker 1: is just wrong, wrong, wrong answer. I know this record

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Speaker 1: and this is way too high. Number four, this is

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Speaker 1: just obnoxious record store clerk trolling right now. This is

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Speaker 1: There's nothing about Paw that is better than never Mind.

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Speaker 1: neither would you. Number five Soundgarden. Here we go, all right,

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Speaker 1: Soundgarden finally, but they have the wrong album. They have

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Speaker 1: super Unknown, but The correct album for this high on

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Speaker 1: the list is Bad motor Finger and I Will die

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Speaker 1: it in real time. Number six is Alice in Chain's Facelift. Okay, Barry,

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Speaker 1: your favorite metal band has more grunge albums on the

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Speaker 1: top ten grunge album list than any other grunge band.

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Speaker 1: What's that say about Alis in Chains being grunge? Number

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Speaker 1: seven Nirvana never mind, way too low, way way way

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Speaker 1: Bad Motorfinger, by the way, where the fuck is any

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Speaker 1: eight is Dinosaur Junior Bug What in the actual fuck?

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Speaker 1: As grunge, The Pixies, the Lemonheads, Buffalo Tom Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I love all those bands, and I love Dinosaur Junior,

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Speaker 1: and I love this album. But I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. People just weren't thinking of Dinosaur

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Speaker 1: Junior as a grunge band. People who knew anyways, people

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Speaker 1: not considering Dinosaur Junior grudge. They were considering Dinosaur Junior

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Speaker 1: influential even on Kirk Cobain. Kirk Cobain, don't tell me

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Speaker 1: how to pronounce Kirk Cobain's name. They were certainly og.

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Speaker 1: There were, certainly, but there were Massachusetts in like western masts.

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Speaker 1: They weren't even. I don't know, man, this is a reach,

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Speaker 1: to say nothing of the fact that Dinosaurgenior Bug is

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Speaker 1: not better than Bad motor Finger by Sound Grad number nine,

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Speaker 1: right on Time number nine with Pearl Jams number ten.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I can't listen to this record anymore. Ever,

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Speaker 1: it was too big and I didn't like it enough

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Speaker 1: which I think was in support of this album, and

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Speaker 1: going on before Smashing Pumpkins, who were going on before

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Speaker 1: Red Hot Chili Peppers, and I saw Pearl Jam at

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Speaker 1: the end of this ride when they were playing Big

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Speaker 1: Sheds on Lallapalooza. And Pearl Jam were always better as

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Speaker 1: But I get it. Dudes love them some. Pearl Jam

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Speaker 1: Disgrace Lampod on the socials. I'm gonna take a quick break,

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Speaker 1: drink some of my tea, and I will be back

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Speaker 1: in a flash. All right, we are back in. Just

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Speaker 1: a quick reminder to make sure that all you Apple

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Speaker 1: missing any episodes. I'm sure most of you do. I

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Speaker 1: just woke up this morning found out that we are

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Speaker 1: So thanks to all the Apple podcast listeners out there,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Uh okay six one seven nine oh

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Speaker 1: six sixty six three eight to leave a voicemailer, send

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Speaker 1: me a text, or DM me at Disgrace lam Pod.

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Speaker 1: This week's Question of the Week was in light of

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Speaker 1: our Lane Daily episode, which Seattle artist most speaks to you?

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Speaker 1: Which which musician which singer songwriter Who's your fave basically?

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Speaker 1: And why is it? Lane? Is it? Kurt? Is it Chris?

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Speaker 1: Is it Eddie? Who would be? Let me know? All right?

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Speaker 1: Calling in from the two seven to zero wherever that is.

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Speaker 1: Let's check out this voicemail here.

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Speaker 2: Hey Jake, this is the Seattle question.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to go with probably a curveball here,

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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go with my man, Mark Lanagan, my

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Speaker 3: favorite artist of all time, pretty much leads enter of

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Speaker 3: the Screaming Trees, who are a great band, underrated band,

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Speaker 3: but his solo output him with Isabelle Campbell, Greg Dooley.

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Speaker 2: And then this his complete solo records. He also did

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Speaker 2: amazing work with Queens of the Stone Age, complete badass.

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Speaker 2: He also slapped the Gallagher guy around from all Oasis anyway,

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Speaker 2: Mark Lanagan even close. Sorry Eddie, Sorry Kurt, Thanks Man.

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Speaker 1: Love the show, Mark Lanigan. We haven't mentioned Mark Lanigan yet,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think we've mentioned Screaming Trees yet. And

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Speaker 1: I love this answer. I played it because we are

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Speaker 1: woefully overdue on a Mark Lannigan episode. And I gotta say, man,

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I am. I love just one of these

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Speaker 1: things like you just don't have enough time in your life.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean like right now, at this moment

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Speaker 1: in time, I mean like forever. Every time I've heard

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Speaker 1: any I've seen screaming trees before, and every time I've

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Speaker 1: heard anything Mark Lannigan, I'm into it. I like it

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Speaker 1: a lot. Yet I've never had that moment for me

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Speaker 1: where I've gone down and just become a fan and

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Speaker 1: bought his stuff, actively seeked it out and got into it.

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Speaker 1: I know he has an incredible book. I know the

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Speaker 1: stories are supposed to be completely wild. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I guess there's in some part of my

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Speaker 1: memory hole. There's something about him slash around someone from Oasis.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's Liam. But I don't know this story,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I should, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: I feel like I got to do an episode of

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Speaker 1: Mark Lannigan and I got to make that happen soon.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do a Mark Lanigan and it gets episode two,

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Speaker 1: separate episodes before the year's over. Maybe I'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your call to seven. Oh appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Jake.

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Speaker 5: It's Kelly from the seventy eight one Again. I'm sorry

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Speaker 5: I had to call back because I meant to also

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Speaker 5: say I fucking love Pearl Jam too, always have and

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Speaker 5: I always will. Eddie veddaw Was He's still on my

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Speaker 5: locker in high school. I fucking love him. I love

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Speaker 5: Pearl Jam. I saw him that Boston Goud and vite

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Speaker 5: before they tore it down, you know, the one where

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Speaker 5: he made the hole and jump through it.

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Speaker 6: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I love Edievetta.

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Speaker 5: I don't care who knows it.

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Speaker 2: I don't give a shit.

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Speaker 6: I love them.

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Speaker 5: I just had to call back and say that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, Kelly, thank you for the voicemail.

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Speaker 1: I played that obviously because I was asking earlier are

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Speaker 1: women into Pearl Jam? And clearly Kelly from Massachusetts is

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Speaker 1: into Pearl Jam. Kelly, I love the accent as well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call. All right, let's check out this

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Speaker 1: message from the two oh six.

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Speaker 6: Thak what's happening?

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Speaker 3: Brother? Now?

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Speaker 6: You know I was not gonna miss this week's question.

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Speaker 6: Of course, two six is in my name, so my

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Speaker 6: all time favorite grunge band. You know, I grew up

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Speaker 6: in I remember growing up in that era when grunge

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Speaker 6: was just huge. Actually fun fact, our main urban station

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Speaker 6: up here when Kurt Cobain passed away, they changed their

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Speaker 6: format and they blended in grunge and alternative with hip

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Speaker 6: hop and R and B. So you would hear a

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Speaker 6: Doctor Dre song, you hear a spin Doctor song, then

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Speaker 6: you hear a TLC record, follow up by a Pearl

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Speaker 6: Jam record. It was basically became a melting pot. As

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Speaker 6: far as favorite band, I mean, I guess Nirvana, But

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Speaker 6: I will say this, I always thought this was kind

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Speaker 6: of interesting, and give me your take on this. I

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Speaker 6: always felt that Soundgarden was like the led Zeppelin of

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Speaker 6: the grunge era. Black Hole Sun sounds like a song

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Speaker 6: Zeppelin would have made great song. By the way, I

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Speaker 6: always felt Alison Chains was the more metal band, like

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Speaker 6: they could be up there with Metallica, and I guess

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Speaker 6: Nirvana was more of like the pop They were more

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Speaker 6: the Beatles of the grunge era. Let me know what

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Speaker 6: you think on that. All right, rock and roller much.

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Speaker 1: Love, brother, That is some crazy I've never heard of that.

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Speaker 1: A ritization changing their format to celebrate an artist from

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Speaker 1: a different genre. Just speaks to the influence of Kurt

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Speaker 1: Cobaine upon his passing. Yeah, I get your comparison. I

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Speaker 1: get the sound Garden Zeppelin comparison, though I don't think Soundgarden,

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Speaker 1: I know Soundgarden was never as big commercially as led

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Speaker 1: Zeppelin was. Maybe they were, like maybe you can. You

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Speaker 1: can look at the numbers and you can line them up,

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Speaker 1: you can look at the hits and number one records

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Speaker 1: and charts and all that. But just anecdotally, time and place,

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Speaker 1: there was no one bigger than led Zeppelin. When led

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Speaker 1: Zeppelin was around, they were that big. They were head

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Speaker 1: and shoulders above everybody else, and Soundgarden really wasn't. But stylistically,

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, Nirvana being more pop yep,

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. And what else did

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Speaker 1: you say, Alison Chains being more metal? Yeah, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: But alis in Chains also had like a real kind

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Speaker 1: of hard rock kind of groove thing to them. But yeah, overall,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Good, good call. I appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have your perspective from way up there

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Speaker 1: in the Northwest. All right, seven two four?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Sam?

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Speaker 1: You asked about what band hits the hardest from Seattle

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Speaker 1: from the grunge era, and although it's boring for me,

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Speaker 1: it is Alice in Chains, seven to four goes on

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Speaker 1: to say, I prefer the Lane stuff, but I don't

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Speaker 1: mind it vibe with the Duval stuff too. I don't

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Speaker 1: mind you saying it, but they pulled me out of

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Speaker 1: a really dark space, especially the song I Stay. You

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Speaker 1: also asked last week what grunge band we listened to

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Speaker 1: most today, and yeah, it's Alison Chains, but I really

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Speaker 1: enjoy Mother Love Bone too, and catch myself listening to

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Speaker 1: them to this day too. That and the supergroup Mad

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Speaker 1: season seven two four appreciate you, Yeah, man, Alison Chains,

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Speaker 1: people love them. This episode we just released has received

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Speaker 1: an incredible amount of praise, an incredible amount of listens.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, number one on the music podcast chart

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Speaker 1: this week on Apple. And I think it's because of

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Speaker 1: people like you seven two four who just have this

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Speaker 1: incredible affinity for Alison Chains and for Lane Stay in particular.

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Speaker 1: Four one six rights in subjects Seattle group Jason from

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Speaker 1: the four one six, Hey, great topic. I find it

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Speaker 1: hard to listen to my formerly favorite Seattle grunge bands

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Speaker 1: because of the lead singers untimely and very sad demises,

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Speaker 1: except of course Eddy Vedder. It did strike me the

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Speaker 1: grunge was the first mainstream musical movement, although Blues was

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Speaker 1: there first that puts songs about mental health struggles on

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Speaker 1: the mainstream chart down in a hole Lithium, black hole Sun,

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Speaker 1: among others. It was honest, raw and a cry for help.

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Speaker 1: I was totally there with you, but then your last

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Speaker 1: sentence reminded me of Hell. I need you know, the

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Speaker 1: Beatles not as directly mental health related. So you're right.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what else came before that had

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Speaker 1: the same commercial impact. I think you're right. I think

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Speaker 1: nothing's coming to mind. I think grunge nailed it first

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Speaker 1: in the biggest way, I should say, very interesting way

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Speaker 1: to look at it. And you had too many dead

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Speaker 1: grunge singers, too many dead ones. It's ridiculous. I guess

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Speaker 1: they told us though, to your point. All right, I'm

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Speaker 1: going back here a little bit because we had the

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Speaker 1: George Michael episode last week and I just want to

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Speaker 1: go to this text here from the five to three

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Speaker 1: zero right. Hey, For us gen xers, MTV was like daycare.

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Speaker 1: That's so true. I'll never forget when my folks got

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Speaker 1: turning on the Telly and the first thing on remote

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Speaker 1: control with Ken Ober Epic Show damn, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about remote control. But favorite MTV artist Nirvana,

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Speaker 1: it seems that air it smells like teen Spirit every hour.

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Speaker 1: They definitely did. I'm not sure the group would have

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Speaker 1: gotten so big without MTV. They definitely wouldn't. And the

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Speaker 1: news of Cobain's death reported by Kurt Loder, is forever

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Speaker 1: etched in my mind. It's mine as well as the

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Speaker 1: saddest day certainly was the most devastating rockstar passing of

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Speaker 1: our generation. I would agree with that. Appreciate the show

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Speaker 1: as always, keep on rocking from Z in the five

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Speaker 1: to three oh Z. Thank you, appreciate you six one

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Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. You guys

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Speaker 1: want to leave me a voicemail, send me a text

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Speaker 1: next week's question of the week? Which artist speaks best

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Speaker 1: for your generation? Who is the voice of your generation?

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Speaker 1: And why? I want to know? Musically speaking, I know

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Speaker 1: that's broad. I know you don't really wake up in

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Speaker 1: the morning going hmm, what is Kendrick Lamar going to

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Speaker 1: say about my generation today? I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 1: This is more a sociological, historical question than it is

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Speaker 1: a subjective question. That's what I'm looking for Again six

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Speaker 1: p one seven nine oh six sixty six three eight

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Speaker 1: you want to send me a voicemail, lead me to

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Speaker 1: tsk you and also hit me up at Disgrace Slam

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Speaker 1: pod on Instagram, on X on Facebook. W Robbins writes

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Speaker 1: in on Instagram, Alice and Lane in particular are a

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Speaker 1: huge inspiration for me as an artist, musician and a singer.

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Speaker 1: I remember the day we learned of his passing and

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Speaker 1: the chilling fact that it was on the anniversary of

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Speaker 1: Kurt's own death. I struggled not to cry listening to

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Speaker 1: the last few minutes of today's episode. Bless you and

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Speaker 1: your unique storytelling. I deeply appreciate it and you you

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Speaker 1: never disappoints her as always rock a rolla. W. Robbins,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Appreciate you, my man, Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for writing in. Kevin Mason writes in on X,

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Speaker 1: Hey have you heard of the band plus Cibo. They've

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Speaker 1: been around, I believe since nineteen ninety six. They've had

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Speaker 1: mild success here with songs such as Pure Morning and

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Speaker 1: Every You, Every Meet, but they have consistently been releasing

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Speaker 1: album and touring. And you know, I said, I hadn't,

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Speaker 1: but I have. Actually they're from England. Heard of them,

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Speaker 1: never heard them? Placebo? You guys placebo fans like Kevin

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Speaker 1: Mason is hit me up. Let me know where do

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Speaker 1: I start? Which record? Teresa Burton writes in on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Thanks for hanging out with

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Speaker 1: It's basically our previously known series bad Lands. Those episodes

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, in the hollywood Land

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Speaker 1: listen to. We dumped a bunch nearly forty episodes, episodes

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Speaker 1: on subject like James Dean, Paris Hilt and Danny Trejo,

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Speaker 1: And next week on Monday, which is our New Hollywoodland

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Speaker 1: So without further ado, here is the Hollywoodland Trailer. The

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Speaker 1: and now all of these stories and more are available

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Land is hosted by me Jake Brennan, creator and

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Speaker 1: In hollywood Land, you can expect the same deep research,

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Speaker 1: Follow and subscribe on the Odissey app, Apple podcasts or

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Speaker 1: and this is the part of the after party where

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna want to miss our John Waters episode,

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Speaker 1: coming your way every Monday. For those Monday episodes, like

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Speaker 1: If you need further convincing, you can head over to

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Speaker 1: get over to the reviews over on Apple podcasts over

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Speaker 1: They're loving it, just like they're loving Disgraceland, just like

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Speaker 1: here from Jeff Barrett about our James Dean episode of

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Speaker 1: glad you doug it. People are also talking about our

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Speaker 1: Continue with the reviews for Disgraceland as well. They're working.

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Speaker 1: It's working. We're number one on the Apple podcast music

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Speaker 1: Lots of fantastic commentary here on the Alison Chains episode

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Speaker 1: masterful storytelling here. You made the hopelessness of Lane's jungle

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Speaker 1: so thanks for hanging out. Let's recap. Number one. Bad

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Speaker 1: on Alison Chains number three coming tomorrow, Our rewind episode

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Speaker 1: on Snoop Dogg. Number four, merch Winners get in touch.

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Speaker 1: You know who you are. Number five. Remember no one

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Speaker 1: more than you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right,

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Speaker 1: And honor this week's subject, Lane Staley. I give you

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Speaker 1: the Billboard charts from the day Lane died on April fifth,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two. Number one, Ain't It funny? Jennifer

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Speaker 1: weeks on chart fifteen, number two. What's Love Fat Joe

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