1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: I am Rashwan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: where we encourage people to stop reading other people's success 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: stories and. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Start planning their own. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Listen up as I interview entrepreneurs from around the country, 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: talk to celebrities and ask them how they are running 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: their companies, and speak with dog profits who are making 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: a difference in their local communities. Now, sit back and 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: listen as we unlock the secrets to their success on 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald. I host 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: the weekly Money Making Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: information that this show provides off for everyone. It's time 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: to stop reading other people's success stories and start living 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: your own now. If you want to be a guest 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: on my show, Money Making Conversation Master Class, please visit 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: our website Moneymakingconversations dot com and click to be a 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: guest button. If you're more motivational speaker, an influencer, small 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: business owner, got a product, an entrepreneur, I want you 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: on my show. 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: Now, let's get this show started. 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: My next guest is a six time award winning author. 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: She's an engaging motivational speaker and is called business therapists 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: by her clients. Chippy Leeds is supporting the economic advances 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: of the people to live their best in helping women 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: to find the value in their voice. Please work with 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: the Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Charrell Lands. 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: Hey Don charelle I'm wonderful. How are you? Thank you 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: so much for having me on today? 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Good? 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: First of all, what exactly do you do? Miss business therapists? 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: I am considered a business doctor and what that means 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: is simple times is I help individuals and company diagnose 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: their issues, define ways to impact them and then drive performance. 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: And so I do so with small to miss size 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: organizations as well as everyday people. Me or considered me 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: a business therapist because we'll start off in business, but 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: a lot of the times business is often tied to 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 4: something personal or purposeful, and so we end up going 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: there and then eventually coming back yourself what I did well. 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: You know, when you're talking about small business, are you 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: talking about the corporate level or you're talking about the 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: entrepreneur and small business level. 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: I support all eighty percent is entrepreneur small business, and 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: then the other twenty percent is more corporations. 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: Okay too, my show focuses on small business and entrepreneur 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: So what are some of the signs somebody will need 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: somebody like Charrelle in their life. 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: I'm so glad you asked, because interestingly enough, I sit 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: in the blind spot of organizations, and so a company 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: typically doesn't know they need me until they need me. 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 4: So ways that a company will find me is typically 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 4: if you are find if you find yourself basically highlighting 54 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: the hustle every day, there's usually an easier or better way. 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: What I tell my clients is is if it takes 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 4: you more than thirty minutes to figure out how to do, 57 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: there's likely a better way way. 58 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: And what I do is help people. 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: And individual or businesses define where the gaps are. 60 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: If you're working too hard, if you feel burned out, 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: you probably need me. 62 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 4: If you are constantly in the space of the hustle 63 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: and the kick and the push, then you probably need me. 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: If you're in a space where you are like, Okay, 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: I've done everything that I can and I really don't 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: know which way to turn, then you're usually you'll they'll 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: find me. 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: So if a company's. 69 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: Going to an incubation hub, trying to find money and 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 4: they're ready later but not ready now. Then they probably 71 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: need the services that hire my organization provide. 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna tell you this, Charrelle. 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: A lot of people you carry the word or to 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: use the word hustle as a badge of honor. 75 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Now you're saying, if. 76 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: You're hustling or spending two thirty minutes on the project 77 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: that you should have done at a snap of your fingers, 78 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: then you need to make the call to Charrell that 79 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: they are fool or you saying they're fooling themselves, or 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: like all things, can we get caught up into click 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: phrases terminology that finds like we're really doing something? 82 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Please talk to us. 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: Okay, I know this will probably sound controversial, but the 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: aspect of hustle is it's overplayed, it's played out at 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 4: this point. Hustle oftentimes leads people into an early grave, right, 86 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: because what that implies is that you're constantly on the 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: go and you're constantly doing And there's nothing wrong with 88 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 4: being relentless and expressing a space of grit, but we 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: have to do so in a meaningful way. So are 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: we maximizing our time? Are we maximizing our dollars because 91 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: quite frankly, especially in communities of color, we're short on resources. 92 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: So we have to be extremely strategic. And this aspect 93 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 4: of hustle is really working us into an early grave. 94 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: In fact, if I give you one statistic, you know, 95 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: the leading cause of death, specifically as it relates to 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: women's heart disease. 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: And that's not oftentimes what we. 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: Eat, it's what we wear, and sometimes it's that badge 99 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: that we call honor of hustle. But that at least 100 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: to us being overwhelmed at least to us being broke 101 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: and oftentimes burned out. And we don't have the space 102 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: for that, We don't have the capacity for that, especially 103 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: not in our communities. 104 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: How does industrial engineering that your degree then works with 105 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: what you're doing. 106 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: Now, so it's one and the same. 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: And so what I do is I am a vision strategist. 108 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: Simply put, I help people realize the things that are 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: important to them, with the aspect being that I focus 110 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 4: on the operation side. Industrial engineering is a very broad 111 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 4: field and it takes forms in different spaces and industries. 112 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: But in either case, I'm. 113 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: Dealing with systems, processes, and people and efficiency. So how 114 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: to make things run better, smoother, more efficiently, and then 115 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: of course taking the aspect of people. 116 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: Early on in my life. 117 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: I determined that I wanted to do something purposeful and 118 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: meaningful with my life, and so I spent and really 119 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: investing in coaching and mentoring and identifying people who could 120 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 4: pour into me. And I found that I love to 121 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: solve problems, and I love to solve meaningful problems, and 122 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: I love to work with people, and so I basically 123 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: get paid to ask questions and help my clients determine 124 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: the areas of opportunities that they have because oftentimes the 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 4: solution is deeply rooted within them, but sometimes it just 126 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: takes someone to ask the right questions to help them 127 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: uncover where the issues lie. So it's still one and 128 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: the same. But if I were to say to you, hey, 129 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: I'm an industrial engineer, the next thing is okay, well 130 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: what does that mean or what exactly do you do? 131 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: So if I redefine that to simply say that you 132 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: know what, consider me your business doctor. I help you 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: to diagnose issues that occur, define ways that you can 134 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: improve them, and then. 135 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: Drive performance within your organizations. 136 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: Now, industrial engineering, to get a degree in that because 137 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: you're now an independent of your own business. Where would 138 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: you have went to work with an industrial degree? 139 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 4: Okay, I've worked for a number of companies. I've worked 140 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: for several Fortune five hundred companies, and immediately after I 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: graduated school, I worked for Johnson and Johnson. That was 142 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: the first one that I worked for. I did several 143 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: years with Jay and Jay, with a couple of other 144 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: companies in the food industry, in the wire and cable industry, 145 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: and in about ten years is when I actually decided 146 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: to start VIS Revision Strategy Management. So we're in all 147 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: organizations really and truly, and you'll find us doing We're 148 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: the ones that are typically doing things like data analysis. Right, 149 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: We're telling you where the money's going. We're telling companies 150 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: where the lost is within an organization. We're telling them 151 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: how to strategically position their project to get capital from investors. 152 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: We are the business side of engineering, if you will. 153 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: Cool. 154 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking to sharel Lands. She's a business strategist. They 155 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: called their business there, and I agree with that. You know, 156 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: she's very articulating her platform industrial engineering. 157 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: You know. 158 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: He told me minor mathematics, you know, So we got 159 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: a little relationship here, but. 160 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I ask some questions that you 161 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: submitted to me. 162 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: I want to go down through those questions so we 163 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: get a good sense of what you do and also 164 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: introducing you to my audience of money Making Conversation Master 165 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Class listeners. 166 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: Now, you say profit is in the patterns, not in 167 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: the panic. What do you mean when you say that? 168 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: So a lot of the times we chase opportunities, or 169 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: companies will consistently chase every single opportunity that comes to them. 170 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: So typically entrepreneurs when they're first starting out, it's about 171 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: kind of establishing their name, their credibility, and getting the profits. 172 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: And so what will find is that they go after 173 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: everything right, and they go. 174 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: After a lot. 175 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: It's in the ability to develop consistency within your niche though, 176 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: so it's created eating a name where people come to 177 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: know you, love you, trust. 178 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: You, but they understand who you are. 179 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: What that does is it keeps entrepreneurs and small business 180 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: owners from going after scope creek, which is grasping at 181 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: every dollar, which it typically accompanies being in a state 182 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: of panic constantly just out there trying to guess and 183 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 4: grasp for what's next. So to move away from that 184 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: profit is truly in the ability to develop consistent patterns 185 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: in how you show up to your customer, but then 186 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: also how you deliver the products and services that you have. 187 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Now let's go to the next one. You deserve to 188 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: be paid, not just passionate. 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: So here's the thing about it. And I would hope 190 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: that we start businesses that are based in a strong 191 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: core belief of core value. But that doesn't mean you 192 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: should do it for free all the time. And I 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: think that there's this common misconception that because I'm passionate 194 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 4: about it, I have to do it for free. But ultimately, 195 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: you want your business to be sustainable, and the aspect 196 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: of building sustainability means. 197 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: That you have to get paid. 198 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: You have a specific value that you create, and you 199 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: have a specific product or promise that you offer to 200 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: the organization, to the world, and so you should be paid, 201 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: and not only paid, but paid fairly for it. And 202 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 4: what I've found is that oftentimes we tend to have 203 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: the dichotomy, and how we choose to get paid often 204 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 4: lies in our personal relationship with money. And so if 205 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 4: we have an off kiltered relationship with money, it often 206 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: shows up in how we position ourselves to be paid, 207 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 4: and so it's not just about being passionate, but it's 208 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 4: about being paid and that comes through a very structured 209 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: business model. 210 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Now you know that. 211 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: Let's stay on this for a minute, because you know, 212 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: of course it's called rates. How do you find your 213 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: rates so you can get paid because and then not 214 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: asking too much based on petitional losing a client? How 215 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 2: do you find that balance? 216 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: Torell? Because I agree you. 217 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: Should get paid for your quote unquote value, But how 218 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: do you determine your value? 219 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: I say, first, you have to start by doing the research, 220 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: and not too many organizations actually do the research. What 221 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: is the problem that you're seeking to solve and to 222 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: whom are you seeking to solve that first. 223 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: Issue, Then you have to assess the nature. 224 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 4: Of the work, the livelihood, everything that you have acquired 225 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: over the years to help deliver that in order to 226 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: set the rate. 227 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: Now I'm glad that we're pausing on. 228 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 4: This because the other thing that I see is sometimes 229 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: weak inflate rates, and that's the other side of it. 230 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: So that doesn't help an organization build credibility either. But 231 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: you have to have a pricing strategy when you're coming 232 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: into marketing, and it could vary depending upon the organization. 233 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: Some people will price low and then kind of gain high. 234 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: Other people try to offer a space of incentive to 235 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 4: get people in. 236 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 3: There's no right or wrong with how you do that. 237 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: However, what I will say is whatever you start with, 238 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: just know that you are shaping a perspective in the 239 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: mindset of your potential client or customer, and. 240 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: They tend to grasp to whatever that is. 241 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 4: Not that you can't move from it, but they do 242 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: tend to hold you accountable to what you say. But 243 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: even more so than that is the focus on the 244 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: ability to deliver value. And if you're able to position 245 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: yourself not specifically for the price upset, but your ability 246 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: to demonstrate and deliver value to your customers, you will 247 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: gain the respective tribe or individuals who value the same 248 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: things that you do. 249 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm speaking to the sharel lands as La ns a 250 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: six time award winning author. She is engaging motivational speaker. 251 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: As you can see, she's called the business therapist by 252 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: her clients. She believes in supporting the economic advancement of 253 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: people to live their best in helping women, which is 254 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: most important, to find the value in their voice. 255 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: How can we reach you I know I have some more. 256 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: Questions to ask you, but I want to make sure 257 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: people hear how they can get in touch with you absolutely. 258 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: So you can find me on any and all platforms Instagram, LinkedIn, 259 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: Facebook at Charelle Lands and at c H. 260 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: A R E L L E and then L A 261 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: N S. 262 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: Or you can find me on my business at www. 263 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: Dot Vision Strategymanagement dot com. 264 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: Vision Strategy Management. Why did you come up with that name? 265 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: That's a great one because a lot of the times, 266 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: what separates one from having pure or true execution is 267 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: not only having a vision and being having the foresight 268 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: for where you want to go and what you want 269 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: to see manifest, but you also have to have that 270 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 4: vision coupled with a strategy, and the strategy gives you 271 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 4: an aspiration for that dream and it begins to tie 272 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: it down. But neither of those gets you to a 273 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: place of execution if you're not managing it. So measuring 274 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: something or having a dream without effectively managing it means 275 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: that it's just a wish. But the moments you associate 276 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: a metric to it and you're constantly keeping a viewpoint 277 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: of it, well, now you've gotten into the space of 278 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: being able to manage that vision to a place of execution. 279 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 280 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 281 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,479 Speaker 5: Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan McDonald. 282 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: How can you get a customer or one of your 283 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: clients to the right balance? 284 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 4: This is a good one and it's an internal goal 285 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: that I have, which is when a customer client comes 286 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: to me, we talk about it. And I know this 287 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: is cliche about working in the business and on the business. 288 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: The goal is to. 289 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: Move from working one hundred percent in the business, if 290 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: you will, to gradually move into a place where you're 291 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: twenty percent in the business eighty percent working on the business. 292 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: But it comes through the balance of creating the appropriate systems, 293 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: processes and surrounding yourself with the right people. 294 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: So we have to do two things, and in it's. 295 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: It does take time to build the processes and the 296 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: systems in place. But an aspect of moving from working hard, 297 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: which is constantly doing everything, which honestly is an indicator of. 298 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: A need for processes and systems. 299 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: If you find that you're constantly putting out fires, then 300 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: that is a clear indication of a need to develop 301 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: an effective system or processing for your business and then 302 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: ultimately getting to a place of hardly working. But hardly 303 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: working for me is not necessarily not working. It's shifting 304 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: the way that you contribute and add value, So not 305 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: working as hard in the grind day to day because 306 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: if I'm doing the same thing over and over, I 307 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: should have a system in place, or I should be 308 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: able to delegate that. And the more that we begin 309 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: to elevate ourselves in our organizations, the less that we 310 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: spend doing the day to day detailed work because we've 311 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: developed a system, we developed a process, or we have 312 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: people that can support us. The hardly working becomes now 313 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: infused in developing the teams that carry out the work 314 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: and also creating a space to give back, so that 315 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: we're now creating meaningful work because once the system is 316 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: in place and we're doing that thing, and now we 317 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: can put it on autopilot, and now we can teach 318 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: more people how to do it, which then creates a 319 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: new stream of revenue for the organization or for you. 320 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: Now let's talk. 321 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: About rest is a revenue of strategy, because I think 322 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: that's a good follow up on the working hard and 323 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: hardly working. Now we're going to get some rest. How 324 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: do you rest? How's rest a revenue strategy strategy? 325 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: Then the more that we recognize that rest is not 326 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: only it's not a luxury, it's a necessity because our 327 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: teams need us to be sharp, they need us to 328 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: be well rested. Because when that happens, we can be 329 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: better thought leaders for our organization. We can give better 330 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: direction and clarity on where we want the vision to go, 331 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: and we can be better supporters of their needs. So 332 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 4: rest is a revenue strategy. 333 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: The more we rest, the. 334 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: More clearly we can think, the more we can drive 335 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: more effective and successful businesses. 336 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to go to one talking point I need 337 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: to jump to immediately is you don't have to build 338 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: a loan, You need a blueprint. 339 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: Are you talking about the people? Are the blueprint? 340 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: Tell us of what you mean when you said you 341 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: don't have to build a loan, you need a blueprint? 342 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: Sarell lance. 343 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: You need a strategic plan, right, You need the ability 344 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: to take the vision that you have and cascade it 345 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: or share it with other people. So when it comes 346 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 4: to building alone, a lot of the times we might 347 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 4: think that we have to do it alone. No, we 348 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: just have to be able to convey the vision in 349 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 4: a way that allows other people to see themselves in 350 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: our vision and catch fire with it in such a 351 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: way that they now take hold and take ownership in it. 352 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: So the blueprint is really how we are able to 353 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: successfully convey the vision that we have in a meaningful 354 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: way so that other people can also see it. And no, 355 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: we have to get out of the mindset of doing 356 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 4: it alone, because that's it becomes exhausting, especially as if 357 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: we do it for years at a time, and not 358 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 4: only that, but it doesn't sustain. If we decide to 359 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 4: leave the business or go somewhere else, the business then 360 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: crumbles as well. 361 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that intellectual property. How do we get 362 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: past that? You know, I don't want nobody to steal 363 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: my idea. 364 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. I've been there right, you know. 365 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 4: I love to write, I love to read, and you know, 366 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: got a couple of books and things. 367 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: And and a lot of content. And I think, however, 368 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: the more that we hold. 369 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: On to something that we were intended, that is supposed 370 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: to be in flow, the more it remains stagnant within us. 371 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 4: And I think that the more comfortable we get with 372 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 4: saying we got to stay five and ten steps ahead 373 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 4: of what we release, So whatever comes out in the 374 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: moment is already stale because whatever's brewing on the inside 375 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: is the thing that I'm working on. So I'm working 376 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 4: on the next, and so we have to think in 377 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: the same respect that this recipe that I have right 378 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: now is baked for whoever it is, and they love 379 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 4: it and they. 380 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: Should be able to. But if I want to see 381 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: the next recipe. 382 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: Succeed this one, I have to be comfortable with getting 383 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: to a space of yes, doing the intellectual property and 384 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 4: properly trademarking and copyrighting your information, but knowing that in 385 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 4: order to grow, I have to release it, and knowing 386 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: that when I release it, if I've got the right 387 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 4: team and the right surrounding or the right surrounding elements, 388 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: that that recipe will continue to grow. But it's not 389 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: so much of a concern because I'm focused on the next. 390 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: And the reason why I just said that I had 391 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: a passionate response for that is because that I cannot 392 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 4: tell you how many times I've seen my content come 393 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: out through other vehicles, and I actually cheer them on 394 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 4: because I think that it's a space of flattery to 395 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 4: know that what you're doing is adding that much value 396 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: that they saw themselves enough in it that they wanted 397 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 4: to try to do something to either reinvent it or 398 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: take it to the next level. But at the same time, 399 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 4: I know that that's from last year's vision and it's 400 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: not necessarily a part of the next one. 401 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, especially this age of technology. You know, you could 402 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: be old old news walking out the front door. L'st 403 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: this question to you earlier. Now they've heard you talk 404 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: for twenty minutes. Why should somebody contact you? 405 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: Why should someone contact me? Okay, So when I think 406 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: about the nature of my personal why, I believe in 407 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 4: cultivating love, limitless leaders. 408 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: Who thrive in business and in life. 409 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 4: And it comes from a space of recognizing that if 410 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 4: we don't, who will. 411 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 3: And a lot of the times it's. 412 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 4: We need to, we have to, and sometimes people just 413 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: need to push. They need we understand where we want 414 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 4: to go even and we can see where we are, 415 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: and people sometimes get stuck in the middle. And contacting 416 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 4: me is contacting someone that believes in you, believes in 417 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: what God has placed within you, and simply wants to 418 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: help partner with you to manage the middle so that 419 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: you can realize what you want to do with as 420 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: few bumps as possible. My aim and goal is to 421 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: take all the technical knowledge that I've been so blessed 422 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: and fortunate to acquire over many years and distill it 423 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 4: down into ways that help people take where they are 424 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: and realize their dream. 425 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: So that they can get to go where they would 426 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: like to be. 427 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: Now, I'm I'm about to break out the famous word 428 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: here I here. In this business, all the time you 429 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: talk about hype words. Right here, Branding is the hype word. 430 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: Hustle is the hype word. The hype word now is scaling. 431 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: Stop scaling chaos. The people are using it. It is 432 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: badly abused in today's entrepreneur and small business world. 433 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so stop scaling chaos is really around. 434 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: This idea that. 435 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: There's a lot of catch phrases to your point, especially 436 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: when it comes to branding, and to your point, there's 437 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: there's so much technology that allows people to paint a 438 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 4: picture of having done the work without having without doing 439 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: the work. And just as it's easy for one to 440 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: tell a knockoff from the actual brand of something, it 441 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 4: becomes you can. One can try to scale on the 442 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 4: basis of not having done the work, but it will 443 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 4: ultimately lead into a place of chaos. Rather than that, 444 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: it's really about reinforcing and developing the infrastructure in a 445 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 4: meaningful way. So scaling chaos is when I take a 446 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: pretty picture and I create a brand or you know, 447 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: and that brand looks amazing and it sounds great and 448 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: it has all of what appears to be wonderful, but 449 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: under the surface, there's no infrastructure. 450 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: Scaling creos. 451 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: Scaling chaos is scaling something where there's no infrastructure, there's 452 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: no back end, but it looks good that will only 453 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 4: last for but a short time. 454 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: Think of all those one hit wonders, right. 455 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: But developing infrastructure means I've got that playbook, I have 456 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: the mindset and the viewpoints to understand how. 457 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: To truly build out what a strong platform is. 458 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: And that's the difference for me between a brand and 459 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: a platform. A platform is sustainable, it's here for. 460 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: The long term. 461 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: It's not scaling chaos. It's scaling a platform. And so 462 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 4: when it comes to building a business and really true scalability, 463 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 4: it's looking at the infrastructure and it's the things that 464 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 4: you don't see. And so moving away from scaling what 465 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: appears to be a platform or what appears to be 466 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 4: a brand is doing the work and digging in so 467 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: that I've got that calendar in place, I've got the 468 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 4: people in place, I've got those processing systems and the 469 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 4: infrastructure that allows me to realize all of the legwork 470 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: that that brand has created. 471 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I hope y'all heard that. I 472 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: hope y'all heard that. 473 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: You know, put that on repeat, you scalers out there, 474 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: because it's important as. 475 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: We close out. 476 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm so tired of it, you know, about 477 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: what I see out there, because that word is abused 478 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: and no one truly understands it. 479 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: And basically you've broke it down. 480 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: You got to have a blueprint if you want to scale, 481 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: and more importantly, you got to have the staff to scale, 482 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 2: the people in place, not just and let me just 483 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: tell you, I I opened the company, and I hide 484 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: the wrong people. Not they were the inco not that 485 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: they were bad people, the wrong people for the company 486 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: I tried to create. Then I try to train them 487 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: for the company I wanted. 488 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: That was the mistake. 489 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: That's powerful. 490 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: That was the mistake, and So when people start scaling, 491 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 2: you have to look around and see do I have 492 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: the right accountant, Do I have the right lawyer? Do 493 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: I have the right CFO. Do you have the right CMO? 494 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: Do you have the right PR firm? Am I the 495 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: right CEO? 496 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: To scale? And if you don't do those things, you 497 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: don't have a blueprint. I'm just just. 498 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 2: Defining those layers that she's talking about into individuals who 499 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: glad we talked about that turning that vision into a vehicle, 500 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 2: not just a vibe. I think that's that's important for 501 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: you to close out our conversation with that, Sharrell. 502 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: So dreaming is not enough. 503 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: It's not enough for us to just have a vision 504 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 4: without a vehicle. Vehicle carries the vision forward. It helps 505 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 4: to define performance. So when I talk about metrics and 506 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: profitability is one of five metrics that you can to 507 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 4: truly define success. But you also want to look at 508 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: your milestones. You want to keep your money in mind, 509 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 4: you want to know where it's going. So the vehicle, 510 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: if you think about it, a vibe is something that 511 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 4: we can do. 512 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: We can kind of you know. 513 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: Vibe and without moving, a vehicle carries you from one 514 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: place to an ultimate destination and it works. 515 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: And its emotion. 516 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: So your vision has to be in motion and it 517 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: has to be one that carries And if I were 518 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 4: to leave you with four things to consider every vision vehicle, 519 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 4: whenever you transition from one place in life to the next, 520 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: you should always have a mentor, a sponsor, a coach, 521 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 4: and a network. The network is those that you surround 522 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: yourself to or surround yourself with. They help they understand 523 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 4: the aspect of where you're trying to go, and they 524 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: can connect with you. The coach is someone that may 525 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: that is able to see you and see some of 526 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: the things in the blind spots that you might even 527 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: not know that you have. The mentor is someone that 528 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 4: is where you aspire to be, that can help you 529 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: understand the landmins as well as how to be successful 530 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: in that space. And then, of course a sponsor is 531 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: someone that says, hey put them in, give her a chance, 532 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 4: give him a chance at being able to do it. 533 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: Now we do have to course deliver, but. 534 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: In every aspect that we find ourselves, ask yourself, do 535 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: you have those four layers? 536 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: They help to keep you grounded but also give you 537 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: the push. 538 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: That you need. 539 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: One more time, Sharrelle. How do we get in touch 540 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: with you? 541 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely? You can find me on Instagram at at Sharrell Lands. 542 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 4: You can find me on Facebook at Sharrelle Lands. You 543 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: can find me on LinkedIn at Sharrell Lands, or you 544 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: can go to www dot Sharrelle Lance dot. 545 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: Com at c h A R E L L E 546 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: L A N S Sharrell Lands. Like I tell everybody, 547 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: I'm just a storyteller. You just heard a subject matter expert. 548 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: Thank you Sharrell Lands for coming on Money Making Conversation 549 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: a masterclass. 550 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: It is my pleasure and thank you so much and 551 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 4: for this platform. 552 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 5: Please don't go anywhere. 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