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We appreciate you doing so, we are going 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: to take you all the way up until nine am 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific here live, and a reminder 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: that at the home depot, Makita tools are built for 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: the pros who show up early with tools built to 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: last job after job, year after year. When the job 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: calls for the best call on Makda available at the 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 4: home depot, how pros get more done? 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: So. 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles, following the firing of Kevin Botulo, the 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, have been on a search. It's been a 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: vast journey and search for the next offensive coordinator of 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles. It started on I believe January thirteenth. 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: It's been going on for a couple of weeks now 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: and they have finally settled on their guy. That guy 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: would be Sewn Manion. Never heard of him. He's been 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: coaching for two years. Tell me about him. He spent 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: him in Green Bay, first as an offensive assistant and 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: last year as a quarterbacks coach. He's got no previous 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: experience before that other than his playing days. Q knows 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: who he is. I talked to him Oregon State guy. 43 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 4: Who is he? Q? This from Sean. 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 5: He was actually a pretty prolific passer during his time 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 5: Oregon State. I mean he threw for over thirteen thousand yards. 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 5: I believe he was like almost like I think it's 47 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: a four year starter there, but traditional pocket passer style quarterback, big. 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: Kids six foot six, two thirty. 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 5: I think it was a third round draft pick too, 50 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: into the league, but never really gotten many opportunities. 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: I think he only started. 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 5: A few games, but it's a bit of the league, 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 5: a decent amount of time between practice squads and and 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 5: obviously being on these different staffs. 55 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: And would you this is what I want to understand, well, 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: because you know that. 57 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: He well, I'll put it this way. 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 5: He I think he got into the league when I 59 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 5: was trans but like my final year was training cam 60 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 5: in twenty fourteen. I think he that was like his 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 5: last year in college. So you know, you're just you're 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 5: always looking at the league, looking at different things. 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: It's a quarterback WI in the league and I'm on 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: my way out type deal. 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm not. 66 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: I'll be like, why is he in here? 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: No no, no, no. 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: You just you're always you're always following different quarterbacks Washington. 69 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 5: I mean, think about it like, even when you're in 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: the league, you're still watching other quarterbacks, like we would 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: like spend Mondays like Monday for quarterbacks. You're always reviewing 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 5: your film, but you've already pretty much seen. 73 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: It Sunday night. 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: He's play, He's play. 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's had a few starts. He's had a few starts. 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 5: I think it's maybe like sporadic depending on where he's been. 77 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 5: I know he was in Minnesota at one point. He 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: might have been drafted in Minnesota, but I've never heard 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 5: of the Ramsey. Just excuse me, the Ramsy drafted, but 81 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: he wasn't Minnesota. I know he started the game there. Okay, 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: here's here's my point, though. I think a lot of 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 5: people get caught up sometimes in because like even Davis Webb, 84 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 5: that's a name that, like probably a lot of people 85 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 5: have heard about. Did any of you guys know about 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 5: Davis Webb before this year in the head coaching interviews? 87 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: No? Not Yeah, So. 88 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: I'm kind of a dor. 89 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in the Twilight Show with you guys. 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't be knowing none of who these people are. 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: Why do y'all make a jah's business to know who? 92 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Like so much? About all these like like that makes no. 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: Here's here's what I say is when your. 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: Show rundown, so y'all got to know something about him, 95 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: and I get that. But if I can look at 96 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: the show road run down and be like, okay, let 97 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: me look at who the guy is, and I can say, Okay, 98 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: now I know who the guy is. But if we're 99 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: putting it in context, proper context for me, up until 100 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: it's on like the announcement of who he is, up 101 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: until it's brought up on news, up until it's relevant 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: to talk about, I have no idea who the hell 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: most of these people are no idea, And that's okay. 104 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 5: And by the way, you're with everyone else out there, 105 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 5: like the one the reasons why I know Davis Webb 106 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 5: is when I was calling a Texas Tech game. Davis 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: Webb was supposed to be the starter for that game, 108 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 5: and Cliff really kept it. Cliff Kingsbury kept it close 109 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: to his vest and then he walked out. 110 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: Before the game in walking boo. 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: That makes sense. 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 5: Okay, Now, who do you think the backup was to 113 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 5: Davis Webb? 114 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: The guy you're talking about. 115 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, And ironically, Patrick Mahomes got knocked out of 116 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 5: that game by Quandre Diggs when they were playing Texas. 117 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: And who do you think came into that game? 118 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: Who? 119 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing is, we didn't know because we 120 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 5: were going that far deep in the quarterback right. It 121 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 5: was actually Vitty Testaverdy's son. So his son ended up 122 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 5: playing the rest of that game versus Texas that night. 123 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 5: But when you prepare for a game, you've got to 124 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 5: know all these different things and you start to learn 125 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 5: about different qbs where they come from. But my point 126 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 5: is this, there's a lot of people who are in 127 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 5: the same boat you are, where they don't know who 128 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: these hires are. When you're a quarterback in the NFL, 129 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: if you are not a guy who's starting, there's oftentimes 130 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 5: you are being evaluated as to be a coach in 131 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 5: some capacity at some point. 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: You know how how you sit. 133 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: In meetings, how you handle meetings, how you go over breakdowns, 134 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: how you you know, work with the different guys when 135 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 5: you get that shot the start or whether or not 136 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 5: you're a backup, Like staffs look at you and they 137 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 5: say like, okay, like this guy maybe could be you know, 138 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 5: a coach, or this guy could do this or that, 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 5: like there's most quarterback rooms are being kind of evaluated 140 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 5: like that because you see the game closest to how 141 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: a coach does, so you're constantly being kind of looked 142 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 5: at in that way. And I would say this, He's 143 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 5: obviously been around a lot of really good offensive minds. 144 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: You know, he's drafted to the Rams, he's played in Minnesota, 145 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 5: He's been around some people who obviously know what they're 146 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: doing calling plays. I would imagine he interviewed well, and 147 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 5: I would imagine he's a guy that they feel like 148 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 5: because think about this, the Sean McDermott firing, to me, 149 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 5: sends a signal to other coaches or excuse you, other 150 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 5: organizations out there that it's not as controversial. 151 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: Of a move I guess. 152 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 5: I mean, the one thing I'd say about Nick Sirian 153 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: is he's obviously got a Super Bowl. But this is 154 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: also a franchise that moved on from Doug Peterson after 155 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: what two years after he won a Super Bowl. So 156 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 5: it's not like they're afraid to pull the rugout from 157 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 5: underneath the coach if they don't feel like they're maximizing 158 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 5: where they're at. And so in one breath, you'd say, well, 159 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 5: this is an interesting hire because we don't know who 160 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 5: this is. He doesn't have an experience and another breath, 161 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 5: you might say, well, clearly they must think a lot 162 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: of him in what they feel likes a run where 163 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: they are compete for Super Bowls, and I do believe 164 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 5: the Eagles are that to then hire a guy and 165 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: put him in this position. If there's that much pressure 166 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: on Sirianni, which I don't know, maybe you guys don't 167 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: feel like there is, Like I feel like it'd be 168 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: crazy if they moved on from him if they don't 169 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 5: win a Super Bowl or don't get as far next year. 170 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: However, that's how the NFL is now. 171 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni, in a statement following the hiring of Sean 172 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: Mannion said quote, it was quickly apparent in meeting with 173 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: Sean that he is a bright, young coach with a 174 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: tremendous future ahead of him in this league. I was 175 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: impressed by his systematic views on offensive football and his 176 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: strategic approach. Sean's eleven years in the NFL have provided 177 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 4: him a great opportunity to learn from and grow alongside 178 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: some of the best coaches in the game. As a result, 179 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: he has a wealth of knowledge and experience that will 180 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 4: be invaluable to our team moving forward. He also finds 181 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: himself in a place to where one game, if one game, 182 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: they start to question and look, I don't even know 183 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: if he's going to be They've said the new offensive 184 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 4: coordinator is going to have free reigns to call plays 185 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: and all that. I don't they don't. I don't think 186 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: that they've you know, if that's been totally confirmed. But 187 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: if one game people don't like the play calling, and 188 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 4: god forbid, AJ Brown gets three targets and he's still 189 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: on the team next year, Sean Manning's going to be 190 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: the next guy that's gonna have to wear it. So 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: I do agree that Nick Sirianni finds himself. I don't 192 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: know if the hot seat is the right term, but 193 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: I think there is pressure on him to perform because 194 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: you know, it's not like, you know, you're going, you know, 195 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: to the western part of the state where you win 196 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl and it's going to save your job 197 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: for fifteen years. Like that's not the case, Nick Siri. 198 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 4: He honey. There was whispers about him losing his gig 199 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: after they went to the Super Bowl and still made 200 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: the playoffs the following year, the same things happen this year, 201 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: except they won a Super Bowl. But the conversation and 202 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: the noise is really loud there, and there's been enough 203 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: people that have called into question either his leadership or 204 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: whatever the hell's going on there. And I just wonder 205 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: how many times are you going to move on from 206 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: a coordinator before people start to look at you as 207 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: maybe being the issue? 208 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: Well? 209 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 5: And I also wonder too, when you look at the hire, 210 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 5: is was there some resignation to who you're working with 211 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 5: that quarterback? 212 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 6: Like? 213 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: Is there there are some concern? 214 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 5: Is there a word that if you look at what's 215 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 5: happened in Philly, they've run through a lot of ocs 216 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 5: and some have worked and some have not. But I 217 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 5: think if you're being honest with yourself, you look at 218 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 5: the roster and you go, man, you've got Barkley in 219 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 5: the backfield, a good old line, you know, weapons on 220 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 5: the outside, a wide receiver like why would you not 221 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 5: want to be coaching that offense and to land on men? 222 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: And either he was that impressive in all. 223 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 5: Of his meetings and in all the people they interviewed 224 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 5: and talked to, or maybe there's some other people who 225 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 5: like weren't valuing that job as much, maybe for the 226 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 5: reason you're talking about where they feel like it could 227 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: be a one and done year if things don't go well, 228 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: or maybe there's some thought that working with Jalen could 229 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 5: be tough. And maybe it's not just the OC, maybe 230 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: it's or not just Syrianni, maybe it's it's working with 231 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 5: Jalen as well. So I've got more questions, I think 232 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 5: than anything else. And ultimately we'll see how this thing 233 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 5: all ends up. But I do think, you know, that 234 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 5: might be a thought or consideration as to where they 235 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 5: landed with this hire. 236 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: I think they're ultimately going to make decisions that, in 237 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: my estimation, like you guys are saying, are are going 238 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: to lead to a serious result. You know, there's so 239 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: much pressure to win, to win there and to be 240 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: in a setup where I don't know, I think Jalen 241 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: Hurts gets a lot of the weight and the pressure 242 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: of what the successes and the failures have looked like 243 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: for Philly. But I mean they've built up so much 244 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: good will in terms of being able to win that 245 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: maybe you find yourself questioning it. And so to me, 246 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, if they were good enough to win 247 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: a super Bowl with this team and AJ. 248 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: Brown is so upset. 249 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: It made me kind of come to the conclusion like, Okay, 250 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: was AJ Brown's anger really being directed and frustration really 251 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: being directed towards Sirianni or was it being directed towards 252 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: a frustration for the play calling that was taking place. 253 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: And so. 254 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: It makes me, you know, this makes me feel as 255 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: though like maybe AJ Brown will be back next year. 256 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Maybe there isn't as hard a feelings as people may think, 257 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: and maybe there was a real frustration connected to, you know, 258 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: the way games were be. 259 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 4: I mean, how many years a you're going to do it? 260 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: Though? 261 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: It wasn't like he was dealing with the same issues 262 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: with the same coordinator multiple years in a row. Like 263 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: the year before was Kellen Moore. This year it was Patullo, 264 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: Like he's he's been upset. He really did do it. 265 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: He really did do it the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, 266 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: you're right, but I mean still I don't. I also 267 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: wonder this because the two names that apparently you know, 268 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: pulled their name out of the hat were Mike McDaniel 269 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: and then also uh Brian day Ball, so Dave Ball 270 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: and McDaniel decided to go elsewhere. McDaniel took the Chargers job, 271 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: Dave Ball took the Titans job. Like, how much like 272 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: seeing those rosters and the pieces that you've laid out 273 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: that you get to work with, the line, the quarterback, 274 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: the running back, the stuff on the outside. Is it like, 275 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: is this a common occurrence that maybe you're a coordinator 276 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: looking for a gig and you just realize, I don't 277 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: want to work with that head coach, like the coach 278 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: that well, relationship with the riloch is to the point 279 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: where it overrides the talent on the roster. 280 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: So Brian and Nick coach together. 281 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: I was on a team in twenty twelve where Da 282 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 5: Blell's doc and Nick Siroano is the wide receivers coach. 283 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 5: So what's interesting about that is typically you see those 284 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 5: guys reunite, not that they would, you know, have the 285 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: opportunity to look at it and say to go elsewhere. 286 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 5: You know, they understand the work environment they'd be in. 287 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: They understand exactly how it work, you know. And I 288 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: think Nick, you know, from from all accounts, you know 289 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: he wants to be the head coach. He wants to 290 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: delegate and He'll probably step in and look at stuff 291 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: from time to time or ask about stuff, but for 292 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 5: the most part that OC gets to run their show. 293 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 5: And that was one where Matt Nagy was a part 294 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 5: of that, you know group that went in and interviewed 295 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 5: for it, you know, out of KC. So I think 296 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 5: when you look at the list of candidates who have 297 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 5: gone in there, that they've had a solid list. So 298 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 5: it is I wonder in that case. I don't know 299 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 5: that it's Nick Sirianni in that relationship because I think 300 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 5: Brian Dabele and Sirianni have a good relationship. I mean again, 301 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 5: he was the head coach for the Giants. They went 302 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 5: up against each other twice a year, you know, during 303 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 5: their tenures there together, and I'm sure there's some gamesmanship, 304 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 5: maybe some chippiness, but at the end of the day, 305 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 5: you don't interview with that job unless you know you're 306 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 5: still have some sort of elements of. 307 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: Being boys and professionalism. 308 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 5: So if there is hesitation in taking it, you know, 309 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 5: you got to wonder is it is it the quarterback 310 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 5: then or is it just saying maybe they feel like 311 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 5: it could be a one and done year if things 312 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: don't work out. 313 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: And you'd rather go somewhere else like Tennessee. 314 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 5: Where I think Tennessee looks at the Robert saw hiring 315 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 5: and Dable being there and saying we've got a quarterbacks 316 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 5: going into a second year. We know we this is 317 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 5: a rebuild it. We're going to give this group some time. 318 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: And I'm sure that's what Robert Sala was asking for 319 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: and signing that deal to be there. I'm sure it's 320 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 5: structured to be painful for the Titans if they want 321 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: to move on from Robert Sall and that entire staff, 322 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 5: if they don't give them more time. You know, that's 323 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: one of the things as a head coach, when you're 324 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: doing these deals and you're evaluating the opportunity, you know, 325 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 5: you might say to your agent like, look, this is 326 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 5: going to take three years before we can figure out 327 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: how this is gonna this is going to be so 328 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 5: if you don't structure this thing where it's really painful 329 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 5: for them, like I'm not taking the job. I'm not 330 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 5: taking it just to go get fired after a year 331 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 5: or two, you know, knowing that it's going to take 332 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 5: a lot longer than that, and especially for Robert Salah, 333 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 5: who when you get a second head coaching opportunity. Man, 334 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 5: those don't come around very often. You know, the first ones, 335 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 5: it will come around, but if things don't work out, 336 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 5: the second one usually doesn't unless you tend to be 337 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 5: one of those guys who's well respected and maybe the 338 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 5: place you coach that was a little bit dysfunctional. 339 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: By the way, I remember, and I'm trying to think 340 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: if it was Davis Webb or Kyle Laltta who was 341 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: drafted by the Giants, and he had some issue with 342 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: his driving to where there was a part on the 343 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: road where he would turn off and like you would 344 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: get off the highway or the whatever it was the interstate, 345 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: the highway, and he just blowing through the stop sign 346 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: and he got pulled over like two or three times. 347 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 4: And I can't remember. 348 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: Do you know this, I don't. 349 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. 350 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 2: This is your Saturday. This is Saturday. Yes it is 351 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 2: no no, no, no, no, this is. 352 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 5: His Saturday solo show where he's like, I got to 353 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 5: take a different end. 354 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: No, it's everything I can look on. 355 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: I got something, really is got something? Patty? Do you 356 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 4: have information on this? 357 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he was. I remember this. 358 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 5: I was going to talk about it, because what does 359 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 5: that have to do with anything. 360 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: Okay, he was arrested for nearly running over an officer 361 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: and he was reckless driving. Okay, See I knew it 362 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: was because. 363 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: What does that have to do with anything we're talking about? 364 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: Okay, because it was an off season storyline, and when 365 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: you're just scouring the internet, what does this have to 366 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 4: do with. 367 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: Anything we're talking about? 368 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: Because we were looking at thinking about quarterbacks from the past, 369 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: like Giants quarterbacks from the past, and David. 370 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: We were talking about Davis Webb. 371 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: You mentioned Davis Webb, and so I was thinking about 372 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: it because he's thinking of you. 373 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: For what opportunity. 374 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 5: You don't need to drive the bus that runs over 375 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 5: Kyle lto just because you want to try to say 376 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 5: something fun. 377 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 4: I mean the way he was, the way he was driving, 378 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: maybe he was behind the wheel, but I'll just say this, like, 379 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 4: I just was thinking about former Giants quarterbacks and for 380 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 4: some reason that popped in my head. Man, look weird, Man, 381 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. 382 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: What I'm It's the Saturday show. 383 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: It's not man, it is by the way, two to 384 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: four pm Eastern Time, eleven. 385 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 5: Because I guarantee that was never mentioned ever on any 386 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 5: show you've ever done besides the Saturday solo. 387 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: Guaranteed we talked about it on our Sunday night show. 388 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: Guarantee we did. I would have not put up with that. 389 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: Too much other stuff, too much other stuff to talk about. 390 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: Yes we did. We were doing game recaps. 391 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 4: No, but this was an off season storyline and we 392 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: were doing it. 393 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: We didn't do the show in the off season. 394 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did year round, baby that we were a 395 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 4: year round show. It was not yes, it was you really, 396 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: you really which one is it? You really think we 397 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 4: were season. 398 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: We only did it well I was. 399 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 5: I know that because I was like, yeah, I don't 400 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 5: know this other stuff, and I think we became year round. 401 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: But it was seasoned to begin. 402 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: It was seasonal beginning. Then all of a sudden, you 403 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: got a taste and you're like, you know what, you 404 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 4: gotta work with that guy. You got a whiff. You 405 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: got a whiff through a boom. By the way, have 406 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 4: you ever wiped a piece of dry toilet paper and 407 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: wonder is this as good as it gets? 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We've got estimates 442 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: on the Super Bowl and how much activity we're going 443 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 4: to see from the betters out there, how much action. 444 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: The American Gaming Association says approximately one point seven to 445 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: six billion dollars will be bet on the Super Bowl. 446 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 4: That's crazy. It's a twenty seven percent year over year increase, 447 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: and they've actually there's some people that thought that the 448 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: number would be even more based on the fact that 449 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: we don't have the interesting storylines maybe or the marquee 450 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 4: names or quarterbacks to go along with this game, that 451 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: it could be a little bit on the downside of 452 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: what the expectations would have been, but nonetheless, we are 453 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: going to get an increase and one point seven to 454 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 4: six billion dollars is going to be bet on the 455 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. Listen, if you're not intrigued by the game, 456 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: there's one way to make it more intriguing. Beat on it. 457 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, it's the fix. 458 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: All yeah. 459 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 5: Its slipper slope too, you know, as j just tries 460 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: to weave people into uh his sick. 461 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: Little twisted world of gambling. 462 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 4: Listen, I think I've come a long way. I'll be 463 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: honest with you. Like, there's a you know, there's a 464 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: live tennis match right now, you know, Novak Djokovic center. 465 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: They're in the what are they the third set? Centner's 466 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: got a four to three lead. 467 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 5: By the way, now that we've gone there, did you 468 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 5: see the exchange that we've gone Joe kit chat earlier 469 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 5: this week with a reporter. 470 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: Was it the reporter was a line judge? 471 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no. 472 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: It was a reporter who was talking to him about 473 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: like where he's at his career, and he essentially was like, 474 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 5: you know, when you first got in you were chasing 475 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 5: Federer and alcatraz Or, Alcaraz or whatever whoever was at 476 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: the beginning of his career, who's the other I'm thinking 477 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 5: of the other, the Dolenfederer and it goes and then 478 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: now it's like you're you're chasing you know, the center and. 479 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: The young kid I just mentioned, and he's like. 480 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's fifteen years in there where I went twenty 481 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 5: four Grand Slams, like kind of just glossed over like 482 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 5: the dominant that he displayed as being the best tennis 483 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 5: player for like a decade and a half. And it 484 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: is interesting, like even in the media sometimes man, people 485 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 5: just have a short sterm memory, like they forget how 486 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: he was the he's one of the all time greats 487 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 5: and he's probably one of the best ever to do it, 488 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 5: and yet I don't know, they just people keep trying 489 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: to kind of compare him to others I guess who 490 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 5: are maybe viewed in the tennis world better than. 491 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: Him dominant, like arguably the greatest player of all time. 492 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: Right, but they just kind of glossed over that. So yeah, 493 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: a big deal. 494 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just you know, they got the h they 495 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: got the new flavor, they've got Alcaaz and they've got center, 496 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: so they're just gonna forget about the old guys. 497 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: In fact, there was a photo they show too of 498 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 5: Cinerwick back when he was a kid standing next to him, 499 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 5: which is pretty wild to think now that Like, I mean, 500 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 5: tennis players start so young and they're mostly done as 501 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 5: far as like their true peak at what thirty? 502 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it's yeah, like around thirty, and then they 503 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: start playing, you know, some of the they'll play doubles 504 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: to try and extend their career a little bit or yeah, 505 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: I just that's that's a world I do not understand. 506 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: Like that hole, you're just out there by yourself hitting 507 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 4: balls with a racket, Like don't you want to do 508 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 4: something else? 509 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: In chess? 510 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 5: It's like playing chess, you know, it's a diverse that 511 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 5: opponent and a lot of mental aspects of it. They 512 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: go into it. You're thinking ahead, thinking sets ahead, moves 513 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 5: you know ahead, you know all that. Yeah, very much 514 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 5: like playing check. 515 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 4: Okay, but you want don't you want to chess? 516 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: Any? 517 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: Do you play chess? 518 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 3: Uh? 519 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah from time to time. 520 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 5: But I'm not like one of those guys who plays 521 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: like all the time, and ah, I play chess, you know, 522 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: I'm like that guy. 523 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: You know, I've never played my life, never know tennis 524 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: or chess well either both more a more of a 525 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 4: badminton guy. And checkers, Like if I got to pick 526 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: one or the other, it's bad stick. What do you 527 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: mean I do like checkers and badminton? Yeah, badminton. You 528 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: know that the coach what's that. 529 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: Thing called a shuttle cocky? Is that what you're hitting badminton? 530 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: Figured I thought it was a birdie. 531 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 5: I think most people call it a birdie, but I 532 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 5: believe the proper name is a shuttle cock. 533 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 4: A shuttlecock. 534 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 535 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 5: I Also I've also heard that in State College there 536 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 5: was a player not to be named, but he is 537 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 5: a college football Hall of Famer, and they used to 538 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 5: call him the shuttlecock back in the day. 539 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't be wrong, by the way, that 540 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: was one of the great nicknames given him. 541 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 4: At this network, Ben Maller gave Eddie Garcia the nickname 542 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 4: the Shuttlecock of sports talk, which is just get beat 543 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: around you never listen, man, badminton. Badminton's way better than pickle. 544 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: That just randomly at the school, like coach that badminton. 545 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: Yea, they just man, they just be out playing badminton, 546 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: like like. 547 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: What's wild as how? 548 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 5: When you first hit that thing it flies and then 549 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 5: like almost stops like you think it's gonna like fly 550 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 5: to the gym initially on contact, they're just kind of 551 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 5: like just drops over. 552 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: You know, lose the speed. 553 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: Weird, love me some badminton. I think you got him. 554 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 5: I don't know what Penn State player that was, but 555 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 5: I just remember hearing something when I was on campus. 556 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: He was the shuttle cock. 557 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 4: How many Penn State Hall of Famers do you know? 558 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: Do I know? 559 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 560 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 5: I mean I would say living probably all of them. 561 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 6: And I know Kajana, Yeah, he's in. He's in that mug. 562 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 6: I know LeVar yea, I know. I'm trying to think 563 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 6: who of There's a few other old timers that I've 564 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 6: met that I know. 565 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: Puzz is in there. 566 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: Uh, Jach ham Ham Yeah, I've met mister hamb before, 567 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: Shane Conlin Conlin yeah, lbu. 568 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 4: Uh what is it on cats? Who else? I'm trying 569 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: to look it up here. Yeah, I don't know, Well, hey, 570 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 4: whoever it is he guys banging around a shuttlecock on campus. 571 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 4: There was a shuttle cock on the TV earlier. Yeah, 572 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 4: there was from Game of Throne like a space shuttle. 573 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: Oh no, it was uh, oh no, it was there. 574 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: What it really was? Now, this is a friendly reminder, 575 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: and I hope that you guys are going to do 576 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 4: this on the up and up because we know what 577 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 4: happened gambling wise during the year when it came to 578 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 4: our picks against the spread. 579 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, how'd that work out for you guys? 580 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: All right, so it is Super Bowl week next week, 581 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 4: and we do have a tradition where we. 582 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: Are all referencing what happened during our. 583 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: Picks because you know, it's it's time, you know. 584 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: We do. 585 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 4: We do prop bets during Super Bowl Week, all right, 586 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 4: So Patty, get ready for this. Oh yeah, all right, 587 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to do a deep dive because we 588 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 4: are going to need five fresh new prop bets for 589 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: Super Bowl sixty courtesy of our friends at DraftKings that 590 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 4: we are going to make picks on throughout the course 591 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 4: of the week. We'll do five a day and then 592 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: we'll see how we do at the end of the 593 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: whole thing. And I can tell you right now for 594 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: anybody that wants to wait around to see what the 595 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 4: results are, don't worry it's going to be similar to 596 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 4: how everything goes on this show. When it comes to gambling. 597 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna win. Yeah, I win. 598 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: Jonas, you lost the regular season, you. 599 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 4: Lost the playoffs cause you guys Nickel and dimed it 600 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: like you guys turned it into you guys some circus 601 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: to you guys. All right, no, you guys Jonas, all right. 602 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure Levar's part of it either. I'm not. 603 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: I didn't win. I didn't win anything. Do you care? No? 604 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 5: I thought LeVar had a shot in the playoffs and 605 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 5: then it just went really bad after that. 606 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: We care? Yeah? What what are the what were the 607 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: playoffs standings? Since we've got one game left? 608 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'm at five hundred, the rest of you are. 609 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 5: I mean, LaVar is like I think you only got 610 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 5: two right the entire time, and then Jonas is somewhere. 611 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: That was on purpose, you know, I like to miss 612 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: on purpose, you know, that's all? 613 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I know this. Uh. 614 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: I really thought I had the right bets. They just didn't. 615 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: You know, people didn't cooperate, that's all. 616 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: Does that make keep for Scales? 617 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 5: Does that make him more relatable because now you've experienced 618 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 5: it with him? 619 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: You know, yes, that's what I said all the time. 620 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: One is way more relatable because he's right, they don't 621 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: the teams don't cooperate. What should have happened versus what 622 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: happens is one like Pete is right. 623 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: It really is a thing. It is a thing. Yeah, 624 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 4: it is a thing. There's a lot of bets I 625 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: go back on and say, I'd still do the same thing, 626 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: Like I would like, how did that? How did it 627 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: play out that way? Yeah, you know what I mean. 628 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 5: That would be That would be my advice though for 629 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: betters is you're going to lose, and so you have 630 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 5: to really make bets that you're willing to cope with 631 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: the loss, Like you could justify why you bet it, 632 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 5: and like even exactly what you just said, you convince 633 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 5: yourself you'd bet it again, right despite knowing the outcome. 634 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 5: Like that to me is the secret to betting. If 635 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 5: everyone wants to win and you're not always gonna win. 636 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 5: I mean, that's why there's both these huge casinos and 637 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 5: all that. It's more about coping with the losses. And 638 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 5: so if you can find a way of betting so 639 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 5: that every bet you make, you're like, you know what 640 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 5: I understood why I bet the way I did, and 641 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 5: I'd do it again if I was given another chance. 642 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: There you go. 643 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: I think that's the secret. 644 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, no regrets. You can't. 645 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: You can't look back and think. Man, you know, I 646 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: I like, no retreat, no surrender. That's my whole thing. 647 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: Burn the boats, burn the boat, no coming back, that's right. 648 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: Gotta win. 649 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: So that's kind of my you know. Yeah, it's not 650 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: on me that the team didn't cooperate and do what 651 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: they were supposed to do. You know, I don't know. Yeah, 652 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how does Denver and Seattle end up in 653 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: in in the Super Bowl even though the NFL had 654 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: it right with their banner. I don't want they did 655 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: get it? 656 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: They didn't. It was New England in Seattle. I mean 657 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: I meant New England in Seattle. Whatever. In my mind 658 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 4: it was Denver. What do I care? I didn't. I mean, 659 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: you know, they did it bo Nickless? Nickless? I think that. 660 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 661 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: And it is confirmed that we all that we all 662 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: four had, or we all three had Seattle finishing last 663 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: in the NFC West going into the season. 664 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: I had Arizona finishing. 665 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 4: I had Arizona. No, I did not them going seven 666 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 4: and ten I think I had Seattle last. 667 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 5: They got definitely definitely didn't have Arizona because you had 668 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 5: winning it. 669 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: I had the Rams winning it. 670 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: I think I had Arizona. I think I had Arizona second, 671 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: and I think I had the Niners third in Seattle last. 672 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: That's how I think. How I think I called it, 673 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: and I would call it the same exact way now 674 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: I would have said it now now now I mean, 675 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: knowing what Arizona is, I mean Arizona. I'll never I'll 676 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: never give Arizona my trust ever again. Oh god, they'll 677 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: never get it. 678 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. I had Seattle finishing last, even behind Arizona. That's 679 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: crazy mad. And they're in this Super Bowl. Wow yeah, wow, Hey, 680 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: you know, but at least some people stand on it 681 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 4: and say, you know what, I did make a mistake 682 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: not giving up though, I'll be betting on the super 683 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: You bet. 684 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: You, Jonas, You've made so many mistakes now it's now 685 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 5: it's like repetitionous, that's habit. 686 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like a fighter with fifteen losses. What's another one? 687 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: What's fifteen? 688 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, protective zero. 689 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: But you're like the guy they throw throw out there to. 690 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: Build up the tomato can the Tomato. Can we need 691 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 4: we need somebody. 692 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: Need go in there. The Knox guy will do it? 693 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 4: Do it? Give it to Has he been training? Probably not? 694 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 4: You know, puts a cigarette out under under his under 695 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: his shoe, gets in the ring, gets gets slapt in 696 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 4: you know two and a half minutes. Yeah you ever 697 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: played poker? Yeah? Are you good at it? No? God, no, no, 698 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 4: because I'm not a good liar. I feel like you 699 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: would you have a gambling You guys would be much 700 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 4: better at that than me. I tell truth. On this show? 701 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 4: So interesting? 702 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: What what he says this to you? Like? 703 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 5: How do you not look him dead in the eyes 704 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 5: var and just shake your head. 705 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't believe it. 706 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: Just see what he's doing too. He's just so repulsive 707 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: with the things that he does. 708 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: This is why do you guys paint me out to 709 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: be some scumbag? Because you are Jonas? All right, that's 710 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 4: not nice, allway. Be sure to check out our brand 711 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: new YouTube channel for the show. Just searched two pros 712 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: FSR on YouTube. Begin that's two pros FSR. Be sure 713 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 4: that the subscribe button don't stop there at the thumbs 714 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: up icon of common away. Let us know who on 715 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: the show you agree with who you think is wrong, 716 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 4: but check out our new channel on YouTube. Begin just 717 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 4: search two Pros FSR and subscribe. Up next, you're gonna 718 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 4: hear from a brand new head coach in the NFL, 719 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: and he's yours here on FSR. 720 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 721 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 722 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 723 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 724 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 725 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 4: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 726 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 4: up top, next town. We'll call that a little. 727 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: Jackie in shadow Man. They've been doing the nasty. I'm 728 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: so tired of this crap. 729 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 4: They've been lay some new eggs. All right, there's a 730 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: live cam shadow be knocking Jackie's ass down. Brady, there's 731 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 4: a live cam on the local news here of bald 732 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 4: eagles laying eggs. 733 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: Well, they go show some hens, you know, some roosters, 734 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: like why are you showing eagles? 735 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: Say? What are we doing? Like, hey, let's check out 736 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 4: of them bald eagles. See if they hatch those eggs 737 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 4: yet I don't know. Why don't you wait for the 738 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 4: homeless guy to light a match at the bottom of 739 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 4: that tree. So that's gonna end. By the way, coming 740 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 4: up a little over ten minutes from now, we're going 741 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 4: to tell you about one coach who's decided I'm out. 742 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and stay where I'm at in 743 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: the world of football. That'll be yours here at FSR. 744 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 4: But I've noticed maybe there's a little trend here that's 745 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: going on. It's probably gonna make somebody on this show 746 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 4: pretty happy. The two coaches in the Super Bowl defensive guys, 747 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 4: Robert Sala defensive guy, gets his gig. Jesse Minter, defensive guy, 748 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 4: feels like, uh might be a little bit of a 749 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 4: comeback being made here of are the defensive guys, I'm 750 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 4: just starting to get a little of the shine, don't 751 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 4: you guys? Wonder why that is? 752 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 2: Though? 753 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: It just it's it's a contradiction to what they want 754 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: the league to be, and it's weird. 755 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 4: It's weird. 756 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: Just get a really, really good defensive coordinator because at 757 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I if I'm being honest 758 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: to like, if I'm being really truly honest, I think 759 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: you should get a coach that doesn't have any connection, 760 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: like as a player of sorts to either side. You 761 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: know how people always say, oh, if you didn't play, 762 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: you shouldn't and this, that and the other. I actually 763 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: think that if you had someone who came up through 764 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: the sport and learned the sport for what the sport 765 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: represents and has been around it, sees how And I 766 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: think that this is why Kyle Shanahan is such a 767 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: really good coach. Like we deem him an offensive mind, 768 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: but the reality of it is is that when you 769 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: grow up around it, you experience all of it, you 770 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: learn it, you understand it. Always say I I one 771 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: of the things I respected the most about the Mirror 772 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: and Ti family is the great grandkids or were locker porters. 773 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 4: They were literally like, hey, bro, like. 774 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: Get me some piels, right, yeah, bron Now the pens. 775 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 2: They're probably avoiding some pepper mills. 776 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 4: Making sure make sure my I gotta go through the 777 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: turnstile a bro, I mean, watch out for stalus. Learn 778 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 4: it from snuffle, focus on up, yeah, learn it from 779 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 4: learn it from the bottom up. I think they would 780 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 4: be the best head coaches. 781 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: Somebody who doesn't have a tie to it that way 782 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: because there's no there's no partialness to it. You're you're 783 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: going to hire a guy that can manage the offense 784 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: of operation the right way. You're going to hire a 785 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: defensive guy that can hire and operate the defense the 786 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: proper way. Because to me, the head coach is the 787 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: CEO anyway, So chances are I mean, unless the debates 788 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: we've gotten into in the past, unless it's one of 789 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: those coaches that call the plays as the head coach 790 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: just beat the offensive coordinator then because to me, if 791 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: you're the play caller, then that means that you have 792 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: to be putting your time and your attention towards calling 793 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: the plays. So I'm in those meetings, I'm paying attention 794 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: to those plays. I'm paying attention to those players. Same 795 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: if you're a defensive coach. If I'm a defensive coach, 796 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm a head coach. I'm calling which I don't know 797 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: that too often, But if I'm calling the defenses as 798 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: a head coach, then that's what you're paying attention to. 799 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: You have to in order to be able to call 800 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: a game. Sala m mcdan, jesse Men or both. So 801 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 1: they're going to be called play. I just think that's strange. 802 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: I think it's a recipe for losing. Honestly, I do, 803 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: but I could be wrong. I mean, Andy Reid is one. 804 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not as many. 805 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 806 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 5: I think you just I think you probably feel comfortable 807 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 5: like doing what got you there? Right, Like, why's if 808 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 5: you get there as a head coach and then you 809 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 5: you're not calling the defense, you're not calling the offense, 810 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 5: and then things don't work out, and then all of 811 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 5: a sudden you're like, oh crap, if I would have 812 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 5: called I feel like things maybe would have worked out. 813 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: I just think if to start it doesn't it makes 814 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 2: some sense. Maybe at some point though you delegate it 815 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: once you get control stuff. I don't know. I think 816 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 2: it's I could see it either way. 817 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 4: But if if you're calling plays and you lose a coordinator, 818 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 4: it's not going to be as debilitating as you know, 819 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 4: say vice versa, because you know that's the key, that's 820 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 4: the key. 821 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: If I should expect you, if you're calling place, you 822 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: should expect. 823 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: If I have separation, I can get rid of you 824 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: and replace you. Let's keep trying it. If you mess up, 825 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: you're out of there well, this is what it is.