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Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios

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Speaker 1: How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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Speaker 1: How Stuff Works and I Heeart Radio and I love

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Speaker 1: all things tech and it's time for another classic episode.

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Speaker 1: This episode originally published on May twenty three, two thousand twelve,

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Speaker 1: and Chris and I decided to talk about Google Drive.

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Speaker 1: It is called tech stuff goes for a Google Drive. Now,

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Speaker 1: at the time that we recorded this, How stuff Works

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Speaker 1: was not using Google Drive as a true storage, cloud computing,

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Speaker 1: you know platform. We we had it personally, but we

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Speaker 1: weren't using it as a company. That would change over

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Speaker 1: the years. How stuff Works would adopt Google Drive at

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Speaker 1: one point, and now we're in another transition phase, which

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Speaker 1: is a lot of fun. I'm looking at my producer Tari,

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Speaker 1: who is agreeing with me about how fun it is

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Speaker 1: to try and transfer from one storage system to another.

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Speaker 1: She's she's giving me a big I think it's a

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Speaker 1: thumbs up. There's definitely there's definitely a finger up. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say it's a thumb So I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: enjoy this conversation. About Google Drive, and I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again in just a moment. So today tech stuff fans,

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Speaker 1: we're all gonna go on a little Google Drive. O. Cool.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about those robotic cars that don't need

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Speaker 1: drivers except you know, when they're sitting in the seat

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Speaker 1: and they watch the car where you're on somebody else. No,

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Speaker 1: that's that's not what my notes are on. I was

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Speaker 1: talking about Google Drive, you know, the cloud storage Google

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Speaker 1: Drive announced on a Well, this will be a fun podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see what our notes show. Um. No, really,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Google Drive today and the day

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Speaker 1: we're recording this podcast, just in case you guys are curious.

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Speaker 1: I know that you'll be listening to it quite a

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Speaker 1: while afterwards because we record so early and that ants.

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Speaker 1: But it's April the day we're recording this, so it's

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Speaker 1: just three days after Google finally officially announced and launched

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Speaker 1: Google Drive. Right. It was sort of a one of

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Speaker 1: those closely guarded secrets like that everyone knew about it,

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Speaker 1: and everyone knew about like the iPad for two years

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Speaker 1: before it was released. Right. Yeah, people have been talking

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Speaker 1: about Google having a cloud storage service for for a

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Speaker 1: made reference to that. But before we really get into

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Speaker 1: what Google Drive is, we should probably talk about what

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Speaker 1: cloud storage is in general and why it's important. Uh,

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Speaker 1: cloud storage is pretty it's a pretty simple concept. The

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Speaker 1: idea is that you can store data on servers in

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Speaker 1: the cloud. So you're talking about using someone else's computers

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Speaker 1: over the Internet using some sort of interface, usually web based,

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Speaker 1: And they call it the cloud, of course, because the

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Speaker 1: Internet is a nebulous group of machines and it's just

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Speaker 1: sort of out there all is changing like a cloud.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so, and and the idea being that it's

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Speaker 1: Internet capability. Right. It may require a special app depending

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Speaker 1: upon the type of cloud storage. Uh, because not everything

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Speaker 1: your computer's desktop as if it were a regular file folder. Right,

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Speaker 1: So you think of your your regular hard drive folders

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Um, a cloud storage drive might

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Speaker 1: And there is no identifier that links that particular file

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Speaker 1: to you as a user, a registered user of that service.

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Speaker 1: And uh, in fact, when I say it lives on

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Speaker 1: in fact, every reputable cloud service out there uses redundant

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Speaker 1: know it. It was a little cumbersome. It also meant

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Speaker 1: particularly difficult if you have more than one collaborator, Right,

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Speaker 1: So if Chris and I were working on a document,

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Speaker 1: should clear this up. Cloud storage is not necessarily all

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Speaker 1: Um So, let's say that he wrote this great article

433
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Speaker 1: about it, and I had scanned it in I could

434
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Speaker 1: type in Gainesville tornado in my Google uh search for

435
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Speaker 1: for the Google Drive, and it's going to actually look

436
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Speaker 1: and scan the the physical documents, the ones that are

437
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Speaker 1: just image files really and return those as well, which

438
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Speaker 1: is kind of cool. It's not just scanning the text

439
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Speaker 1: in your documents and scanning the images. They're also working

440
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Speaker 1: on adding in the image recognition software that you can

441
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Speaker 1: find in in products like Google Goggles. So with Google Goggles,

442
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Speaker 1: you can hold up a smartphone with a camera to

443
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Speaker 1: a particular kind of objects, sometimes like a landmark or whatever,

444
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Speaker 1: and Google Goggles will use recognition software to try and

445
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Speaker 1: identify what that is. Same sort of thing. Let's say

446
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Speaker 1: that you've taken a bunch of pictures of the Washington

447
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Speaker 1: Monument and then you think, oh, there's this great picture

448
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Speaker 1: of the Washington Monument I want to use, and I

449
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: don't remember where I put it. You could search Washington Monument,

450
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: and that image recognition software will include any images that

451
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Speaker 1: Google identifies as the Washington Monument uh and pulls it

452
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Speaker 1: back even if you didn't title the picture that so

453
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: the picture could be titled something different. It couldn't just

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Speaker 1: have the date or some random string of letters and numbers.

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Speaker 1: But because that image recognition software is part of Google Search,

456
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Speaker 1: it can pull that up as well, which is a

457
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Speaker 1: really powerful tool. Now, Google does stress that both the

458
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Speaker 1: image recognition software and the the scanning of of scanned

459
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: files software both of that those technologies are in their

460
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Speaker 1: early phases and may not work flawlessly, so uh, you know,

461
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: mileage may vary essentially is what comes out of that.

462
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Speaker 1: But that that is a differentiator is that you've got

463
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Speaker 1: this amazing search tool. It turns out Google knows a

464
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: thing or two about search. They've picked up a couple

465
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Speaker 1: of tricks that that's really cool. They needed to work

466
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Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, no, they've they've got some good some

467
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Speaker 1: good work there, and then they're also working there's there's

468
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Speaker 1: all the collaborative features that you would get with Google Docs.

469
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Speaker 1: So that's included with Google Drive. So assuming that people,

470
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Speaker 1: uh you know that you give access to certain files

471
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Speaker 1: to people, they should be able to make edits and

472
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: everything they're working on, including some other features as well.

473
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Speaker 1: They've actually opened up the platform and they've created an

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Speaker 1: API for for companies to add in their own features,

475
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Speaker 1: so extensions and things. So you might be vocation programming interface. Yes,

476
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: so you might be able eventually to do things like

477
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Speaker 1: send facts from your Google Drive to a fax machine

478
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Speaker 1: or to actually have edit videos with in your Google

479
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Speaker 1: Drive itself, so you're not just letting people view a video,

480
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Speaker 1: but perhaps even edit videos within the drive using this

481
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Speaker 1: third party application. But they're the the possibilities are nearly endless. Yeah.

482
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they have already made partnerships

483
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Speaker 1: with some of these companies that that Jonathan is alluding

484
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Speaker 1: to UM for the launch of Google Drive, and you

485
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: can go. You can actually find it pretty easily when

486
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Speaker 1: you go into your Google account that they have these uh,

487
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Speaker 1: these applications that are ready to take advantage of this

488
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Speaker 1: UM And as a matter of fact, um, there is

489
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Speaker 1: ah some of them have UM special deals. Now that

490
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of important to note. Uh, just just quickly

491
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Speaker 1: that these third party companies are probably still going to

492
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: charge you for their services. UM. So you know, it's

493
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Speaker 1: not necessarily free, but it does work very very easily,

494
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: and it is uh you know, synchronized with Google Drive,

495
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: so it makes it very easy to do one from

496
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: the other. Right now, your mileage may vary again again. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about the tears that

498
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Speaker 1: the Google offers. No more tears. That's my Aussie Osborne

499
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: reference for the day. Um, actually it's probably not. I'm

500
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: sure I'll get a crazy train in there somewhere man

501
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: or maybe war pigs. Maybe, I'm not sure how you're

502
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: going to get that one. Maybe iron man. Uh, I mean, look,

503
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: I can force a reference if I have to be

504
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: the first time. Anyway, So the tears that Google offers,

505
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: so you've got five gigabytes of free storage. Actually, let's

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Speaker 1: back that up. Okay, Google makes its money. We're just

507
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: a little bit deep. Google makes its money from advertising. Yes,

508
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: that's true. Google is an advertising company when you get

509
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: down to it, or at least they they run advertising, right,

510
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: So let's let's kind of take one step back and

511
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Speaker 1: look at Google services. Okay, Google Docs, the previous Google

512
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Speaker 1: Docs free. Yeah, female, that's free. Searches free to the user. UM.

513
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: Android is free for people to uh to install on

514
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: cell phones. Um. All this stuff is offered more or

515
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: less free to the consumer. This is one of the

516
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: big changes. Because Google's competitors in this space, people like

517
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: uh that Jonathan mentioned before, dropbox, Box formerly boxed, dot Net,

518
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Speaker 1: Sugar Sinc. Sky Drive, sky Drive which is Microsoft's UM

519
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: application for this. These guys all offer tears. There's an

520
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: initial free smaller space, and then they are are tiered pricing.

521
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: So you get uh, you know, small for free, you

522
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: get medium for a few dollars a month, you get

523
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: large for a few more dollars a month, etcetera, etcetera.

524
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Speaker 1: So this is new. Google hasn't done this with other products. Really,

525
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Speaker 1: I can't think of one, uh where it offers tiered

526
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Speaker 1: pricing like this. Nothing's pop being the mind immediately. I mean,

527
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: you could make some arguments about Google Voice, but that's

528
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: a little different. That's a little different. Um. Yeah, so

529
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: that's yeah, it is is something to make a call

530
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: on Google Voice normally like over the phone. In general,

531
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Speaker 1: it's free. Now, granted, what Google could have done is

532
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Speaker 1: they could have offered the five gigabytes free storage, and

533
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: that would have been it. But see for Google to

534
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: offer huge amounts of storage for free would be well

535
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: pretty soon Google, that would be eating into Google's revenue.

536
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: So it's understandable why they did what they did. Um

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Speaker 1: and really, when we get into the comparisons, you'll see

538
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Speaker 1: it's fairly comparable to the other services. Some offer less

539
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: space for free, some offer more. But um, Dropbox, for example,

540
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Speaker 1: is I would say, the for what it's worth, the

541
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: eight pound gorilla, and yet that offers two gigabytes and

542
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: starts at two gigabytes for friends. For friends, you get

543
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: five hundred megabytes per referral. And up to sixteen gigabytes

544
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: extra storage, so you could have up to eight gigabytes

545
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: for free if you referred that many friends to drop Box.

546
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah so, uh but but getting back to it, the

547
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: five gigabytes is free for any user. So if you

548
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Speaker 1: have a Google account and you have five gigs free

549
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 1: storage online right now, uh, if that's enough, then for

550
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: about two dollars, and this is all at launch, I

551
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: should say, because if you're listening to this podcast in

552
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure the prices may be different. But for twenty

553
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: for two dollars and forty nine cents a month, you

554
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Speaker 1: can get five gigabytes of storage. For four dollars and

555
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: ninety nine cents a month, you get a hundred gigabytes

556
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Speaker 1: of storage. And if you're really really data hungry, for

557
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Speaker 1: a cool forty nine nine a month, for nine dollars

558
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: nine cents, you can get a terrabyte of storage online.

559
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: So uh so yeah, for people who need way more space.

560
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: Let's say that you're that you do a lot of

561
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Speaker 1: video editing, because you do a lot of liberation with

562
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: other people with videos, and you want to have that

563
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: ability for people to all look at it without it

564
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: going live in any other way, Um, this would be

565
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: pretty useful. And uh, again it's it's kind of comparable

566
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Speaker 1: to what other companies offer. Uh, some of them don't

567
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: have um as high amount of storage that actually, none

568
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: of them offer as much storage as Google Drive does

569
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Speaker 1: at its highest tier. The highest tier that Google Drive

570
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: offers is sixteen terabytes of storage, which is for seven

571
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: a month. Yeah. Well, I would say that some of

572
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: them I've seen essentially say hey, if you need if

573
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: you really need more storage than this, give us a

574
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: call and we'll work something out. Um. But yeah, and

575
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: and there are there are a few things. Um. One

576
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't completely new because Google docs has

577
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: allowed you to upload files like word Microsoft Word documents

578
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: for a little while now. But this is this is

579
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: basically the formal, uh, the formal announcement that hey, we

580
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: are going to offer you a certain amount of storage

581
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: and this is how much it costs. So it's really

582
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: a delineation of all of that. Um. Yeah. The maximum

583
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: file size that you can upload to a Google Drive

584
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: as assuming that you have that much space as ten gigabytes. Um.

585
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: And uh, which is one of the larger actually, I

586
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: think that's the largest file size among the the consumer

587
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: cloud storage, there's enterprise cloud storage. To Amazon offers enterprise

588
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: level cloud storage. That's a different animal. Well, in a

589
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: way it is, and in a way it isn't, because

590
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: some of the other cloud services are using Amazon as

591
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: their right story. So in some cases you are using

592
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Amazon Cloud storage, you're just using it through another company.

593
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, we can genius business model right there. We

594
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: can do some comparisons with the others. But first, before

595
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: we did the comparisons, I wanted to talk a little

596
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: bit about some controversy that popped up. So there are

597
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: these things, these terms of service agreements that you know,

598
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: standard across the web, and sometimes people read them, and

599
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: when they do read them, sometimes they say, hey, that

600
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: doesn't sound quite right. Um. So one of the problems

601
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: that came up are not even a problem. One of

602
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: the one of the questions that popped up all had

603
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: to do with part of the Google Drive terms of service,

604
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: which said that anyone who would upload or submit content

605
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: to Google Drive would grant Google and I quote a

606
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative

607
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: works such as those resulting from translations, adaptations, or other

608
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: changes we make so that your content works better with

609
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: our services, communicate, published publicly, perform publicly, display, and distribute

610
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: such content end quote, which gave some people the fear

611
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: that perhaps what Google was saying is if you upload

612
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 1: your content to our service, we can do whatever we

613
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: want to it. Now. In truth, that's not what Google meant. No,

614
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: and this is common. I actually found an article on

615
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: c net where they had taken the terms of service

616
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: from basically everybody, the major players in the cloud storage business,

617
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: and there are clauses similar to that in many of them.

618
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: And what they're basically saying is, um, you're giving us, Okay,

619
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: you put the you put the file on the server.

620
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: What they're saying is, you're going to allow us to

621
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Speaker 1: make a thumbnail, a derivative work. You'll you'll let us

622
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: capture the first page and make it small so you

623
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: can see what it looks like. They they have you

624
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: have to give them some of these rights to allow

625
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: you to access it from other computers, right to share

626
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: it with other collaborators with exactly. And that's what I

627
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: think they were trying to accomplish. But the way it

628
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: was worded freaked people right out right now, And when

629
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: you think about a little bit you realize without this permission,

630
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: Google drive would not work. Yeah, because you put it

631
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: there and you couldn't get it back Google would Google

632
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't have the permission to display it in a way

633
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: that would be useful to you. So, for example, let's

634
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: go with the collaboration thing. Here's here's an example. And

635
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: I think it was c net that wrote this example. Um,

636
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Speaker 1: I want to say it was it was Google. I

637
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: think that actually said here's here's what the h here's

638
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: a use case scenario that will explain it. But I

639
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: think it was seen that that reported it said. All right,

640
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: so imagine that you are collaborating with a screenwriter in China,

641
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: and the screenwriter is writing in Chinese characters and you

642
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: don't read Chinese. So when you open up the file,

643
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: Google Translate translates the document from Chinese into English so

644
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Speaker 1: that you can read it and it's in a format

645
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: that that makes sense to you. Well, those that's changing

646
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: that work, it's adapting it in the form of translating it.

647
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: And so this permission gives Google the rights to do

648
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Speaker 1: that so that that document is actually used full to you.

649
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: It's not Google says they're not planning on doing anything

650
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: like taking your work that you have uploaded, changing it

651
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: around and then selling it somewhere. That's that's not the

652
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: purpose of this language. The purpose is just so that

653
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: the features within Google Drive are legal because you have

654
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: permitted Google to do it. Yeah, or or using it

655
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: in ads. Now. I've seen some people say that they

656
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: have seen their stuff being used in ads that are

657
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: being shown to them, um, but that whether it goes

658
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: beyond those people, I haven't heard anything about that, So

659
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm not certain exactly how accurate that is, um, because

660
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, they do collect quite a bit of information

661
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: on you, and they really probably wouldn't need to look

662
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: at your documents to be able to target advertising to

663
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: you and your interests. Yeah, I mean, it's also it's

664
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Speaker 1: also important that you know that these permissions also allow

665
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: Google to do things like scan all your documents so

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Speaker 1: that if you need to search them, they can turn

667
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: results on those searches. Otherwise, again, you wouldn't be able

668
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: to search anything. You would just have to go through

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00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: all that huge pile of files and find what you needed. Again,

670
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: it's useful, it's a useful feature, but in order to

671
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: do that, you have to grant them those those those commissions. Yeah,

672
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: because if you don't then uh then legally Google would

673
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: be unable to provide that, at least not without breaking

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Speaker 1: the law. We've got a little bit more about Google

675
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Drive to cover, but before we get there, let's take

676
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: another quick break to thank our sponsor. I think in

677
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: the last day or so, the tempers have cooled, but

678
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: people are still saying, well, okay, fine, but the way

679
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: it's written is very broad, and it could be allowed,

680
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: It could allow opening the door to doing these things.

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00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: So they're saying that Google was a little reckless is

682
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: probably a strong word, but they were a little uh

683
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: vague in terms, and and it does grant them those

684
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: permissions where they could theoretically do that. But again, these

685
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: terms are very similar to the ones used by just

686
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: about everybody else out there. I remember almost identical story

687
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago, and I can't remember

688
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: what the company was. It might have even been Google again,

689
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: but I remember distinctly that there was a discussion about

690
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: this sort of thing and how people were worried that

691
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Speaker 1: they were handing their rights over to another company, when

692
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: in truth, what was going on was just like this.

693
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: It was it was the permissions were there so that

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Speaker 1: the service could display the work and the way it

695
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: needed to be displayed for it to be useful and

696
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: uh and so ultimately it just boiled down to know,

697
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: we're not selling your stuff. We just need this permission

698
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: or else there's no service. We we literally cannot do

699
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: what we need to do for us to be useful.

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00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: So um yeah, no need to panic, although it's always

701
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: good to question just in case. I mean, you know,

702
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: Google does still have that that motto of don't be evil,

703
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: but you never know well or evil is kind of

704
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: an interesting thing that itself is not entirely uh like

705
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: one one man's definition of evil may be different from another's.

706
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: And I've heard it clarified, um prime that that was

707
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: really intended to mean, don't manipulate search results to facilitate advertising,

708
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: and it was specifically geared towards that, So you know,

709
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: keep your eyes it's always going to keep your eyes open. Yeah, No,

710
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: it's it's always important to question. That's not what we meant.

711
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: So let's go on to talking a little bit about

712
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: how Google drives stacks up against other cloud storage services.

713
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: So with the free storage with five gigabytes free storage,

714
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: that puts it on the same playing ground as services

715
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: like Box and Sugar Sinc. Both of those offer five

716
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: gigs as well. Dropbox is a little less, is two gigabytes,

717
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: but again, if you start referring other people and they

718
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: joined the service, you get five megabytes per referral up

719
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: to a maximum sixteen gigs, So you could in theory

720
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: have way more storage for free on Dropbox than you

721
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: would on these other services. Microsoft sky Drive is at

722
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: seven gigabytes, but people who had sky Drive accounts previous

723
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: to Google Drives Launch can have up to gigabytes for free. Yes,

724
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: but that offer is being made for a limited time,

725
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: so if you had that and you want to keep that,

726
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: you might want to go quickly over there too. In fact,

727
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: by the time this podcast publishes, there may very well

728
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: be late, too late, very um so in that case

729
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: we're sorry anyway. The the minimum upgrade, so the smallest

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Speaker 1: step that you can make from free to a paid

731
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: service is uh as a little different depending on the

732
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: the service. So for Google Drive it's two dollars and

733
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: forty nine cents per month for gigs of storage. For

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Speaker 1: for drop Box, you get the lowest step is fifty

735
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: gigabytes of storage for nine dollars and ninety nine cents

736
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Speaker 1: a month, So if you're breaking it down per gig,

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Speaker 1: then Google Drive is cheaper, although you get less storage. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Box is twenty five gigabytes, so same amount as Google Drive,

739
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Speaker 1: same amount storage, but for nine dollars nine nine cents

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Speaker 1: a month, so it's more expensive. Sugar Sink is thirty

741
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: gigabytes of storage for four dollars and ninety nine cents

742
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: a month, so uh, it's you get you get five

743
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: gigabytes more storage, but it's um it's essentially twice the

744
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: price of Google Drive. And then um sky Drive is

745
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: twenty gigabytes for ten dollars a year, which is actually, uh,

746
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: it's a little less storage than Google Drive. But Google

747
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Drive at tot nine a month, you multiply that by

748
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: twelve months, then you're like, oh well, Microsoft sky Drive

749
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: in away is a little cheaper. Um. So that's how

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Speaker 1: those stack up. And also the maximum file size limit

751
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: Google Drive blows the others out of the water, except

752
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: for Sugar Sink, which does not technically have a file

753
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: size limit, but the but box is limit is a

754
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: hundred megabytes, so that's that's not too big. Drop Box

755
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: and sky Drive both have a limit of two gigabytes

756
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: for a file size. UH. The UH, Sugar Sinc, drop Box,

757
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: sky Drive, and Google Drive are all compatible both with

758
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: Windows and Mac. Box is a business enterprise UM service,

759
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: so primarily I mean you can you can get one

760
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: if you want one. Uh. All of them have iPhone apps,

761
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: except for Google Drive right now, but Google drives working

762
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: on it. Uh. The only one that doesn't have an

763
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: Android app out of the of the ones I've listed

764
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: is sky Drive, Microsoft SkyDrive. Everything else has an Android

765
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: app already out on the market. Windows Phone, well, here's

766
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 1: a dock. Microsoft sky Drive has a Windows Phone app,

767
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: but Google Drive doesn't, Dropbox doesn't, Box doesn't. Sugar Sinks

768
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: is supposedly coming out, so maybe by the time this

769
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: podcast because Live Sugar Sink will have THEIRS. UM. They

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00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: all are. They all have web access, so you can

771
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: access the service over the web, So even if your

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00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: device does not have an application that is native to

773
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: that device, you can still get there over the web,

774
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: assuming you have a browser. UH. And all of them

775
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: allow for public file sharing, so that you can actually

776
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Speaker 1: let other folks see what's in your drive or see

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00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: specific files that you have, you know, enabled public sharing.

778
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: You can also do private file sharing with all of them,

779
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: so that if you want to have just a group

780
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: of collaborators, let's say you're all working on a project

781
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: together and you want to be able to look at

782
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: everyone else's UM information on a particular file, you can

783
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: do that, and then the public itself would be shielded.

784
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: They would not be able to see that UM and

785
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: most of them offer some sort of collaborative document editing,

786
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: although you might have to use proprietary apps in order

787
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: to do it. Drop Bucks does not, it's more of

788
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: a storage feature than collaboration. Sugar Sinc. Also doesn't, but

789
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: sky Drive, Box and Google Drive all do UM. And

790
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: then there are a couple of other UH features like

791
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: the third party apps UM integration. That's that's pretty much

792
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: standard across the board. Sky Drive is specifically going to

793
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: be for Windows eight apps, so but others are you know,

794
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: pretty much unfettered. So that's kind of how it boils

795
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: down to the other major cloud services that are out there,

796
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: and there's there's more than that. That's just that's just

797
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: a handful of them. Oh yeah, I've I've got different

798
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: applications for several of them, including UH A Bunto one,

799
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: which is offered by Canonical primarily for Linux users. And

800
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, there are there are others out there they're

801
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: trying UM and people have a question whether or not

802
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: these services are going to continue into the future. UM.

803
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I think Google Drive may end up being a model

804
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: for what's going to be happening. Google Drive and sky

805
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: Drive basically are you know, sort of hybrids of online collaboration,

806
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: software and storage. UM. So the pure storage players like

807
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: Dropbox and Sugar Sink may have a difficult time competing

808
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: with them in the future, especially since they're owned by uh,

809
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, sky Driving and um Google Driver are you know,

810
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: big players, and they've got a whole lot of money

811
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: to throw at these these um different applications, so you know,

812
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: creating larger and larger file storage for free, offering those

813
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: services for free. Um. You know, it may not be

814
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: very long at all before Google and Microsoft are offering

815
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: you ten gigabytes UM or you know, or more than that.

816
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, Apple is doing something very

817
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: similar with the the um I work sweet too, So

818
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: um it's very possible that the big players in the

819
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: industry may run off with it and and the pure

820
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: storage guys sort of followed by the wayside. I would

821
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: say that is a very very real possibility, but probably

822
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: not for another year or two at least. Um, just

823
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: as people decide what it is they want to do

824
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: with these systems. If they end up using just storage,

825
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'd rather create a document on my

826
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: desktop and then share it with my collaborators on the

827
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: on the drive rather than you know, us working on

828
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: a document in the cloud in my web browser. I think, Um,

829
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: I think the real problem for the consumer in the

830
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: short term is going to be, uh, figuring out where

831
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: the heck your data is if you're using multiple, um,

832
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: multiple services. I do have that problem, yeah, because if

833
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: you I have Dropbox and I have Google Drive, those

834
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: are the only two that I'm using. I've got like

835
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: six or seven. Yeah. I resisted that temptation because I

836
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: knew what would happen. But it's the problem you have.

837
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Speaker 1: The problem you have within one drive is multiplied when

838
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: you have multiple drives. So that's like that's like you

839
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: come home and you don't know what which computer has

840
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: the file that you need on it. So you've got

841
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: four computers in your house for some reason. Uh, like

842
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: you live in my house for example. Actually I think

843
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: I've got more than four, but anyway, I think i've

844
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: got five. Anyway, let's say that you've got five computers

845
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: at your house. Then let's they got five computers in

846
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: my house, and that I have a file saved on

847
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: one of those computers. Then comes the fun part of

848
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: going to each computer and figuring out where it is.

849
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: The same problem. If you're using multiple cloud storage services,

850
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go and do search for each one.

851
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: That The benefit to it is that you can at

852
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: least do that search from one machine, as long as

853
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: that one machine can access each of the services you're using,

854
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: and if they all have web based access and you've

855
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: got a web browser, then you've got that problem solved,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not the most elegant solution, but still

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Speaker 1: before where you might have duplicate files. You might have

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Speaker 1: one instance on one drive and another instance on another drive.

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Speaker 1: So um yeah, that's that's gonna be a problem too,

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Speaker 1: is that if you use a lot of these services,

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Speaker 1: for a different one. In that way, at least you

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Speaker 1: reduce that confusion. Me what I think I'm gonna end

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Speaker 1: up doing is I'm going to pick one, and I

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Speaker 1: haven't decided which yet, although let's be honest, Google Drive

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Speaker 1: is probably the lead simply because I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of products that run Android, so you know, I'm kind

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Speaker 1: completely decided yet. So let's say, you know, whichever one

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