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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the sixth presented by

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Speaker 1: Castro Ledge, Daniel Jeremiah joined by my partner Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: And Bucky we are officially in draft season, no combine

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Speaker 1: this year, but the Pro Days are underway and we

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Speaker 1: have a lot to get to on today's show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot to get to because of the

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Speaker 1: get some measurables and it's important because without a combine

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Speaker 1: and limited access to the players, these measurements and metrics

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Speaker 1: really really matter. No doubt. We're gonna have the Clemson

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Speaker 1: Pro Days, some updated information on that, our evaluation of

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Speaker 1: some of their top players coming up here in just

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Speaker 1: later on the show because what we've been doing with

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Speaker 1: Pro on Prospect where we take somebody that's at the

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Speaker 1: evaluate the college players. So we're gonna do that with J. K. Dobbins.

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Speaker 1: We won't tell you what running back he's going to

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Speaker 1: can't try and fix them with some ideas with free

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Speaker 1: the show. But let's kick things off here. First big

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Speaker 1: pro day and that takes place at Clemson Buck where

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Speaker 1: we have some real interesting players, really highlighted I would

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Speaker 1: he's the top running back. I believe you have him

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Speaker 1: He comes in uh weighing two and fifteen pounds, runs

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Speaker 1: Because he certainly is an every down running back. He's

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Speaker 1: I have nineteen receivers that I have, you know, top

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Speaker 1: miss is Elijah More. Elijah More might be the best

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Speaker 1: you have is your your pro day and those things.

430
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Speaker 1: So how do you get ready to show scouts that,

431
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Speaker 1: hey man, you're the top interior defender in the class

432
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Speaker 1: now my exos in San Diego. So just preparing for

433
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Speaker 1: when I'm on the pro day. I gotta just be

434
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Speaker 1: on point. You gotta be fast, you gotta be clicking

435
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Speaker 1: all that. So just preparation is what it is. We

436
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Speaker 1: certainly would all eyes on you because you want the time.

437
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Speaker 1: Guys that we've seen you so best look to you

438
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Speaker 1: going for it? Yes, sir, I appreciate you that. That's

439
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: impressive guy there. And Buck, I mean he's a fun

440
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Speaker 1: player to watch on tape. I wish we would have

441
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Speaker 1: seen him throughout that Senior Bowl. Unfortunately got nicked up

442
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Speaker 1: early in the week. But again, a very talented player

443
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 1: probably comes off the board late one early two. Yeah,

444
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 1: it comes off the board really really early. Because he's talented.

445
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Speaker 1: We we saw at the Senior Bowl. We got glimpses

446
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Speaker 1: of his ability to penetrate uh quickly off the line

447
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Outstanding athlete, very good with his hands. Still,

448
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Speaker 1: I think he has an opportunity to be a great

449
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Speaker 1: from several good Washington defenders in this year's draft class.

450
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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see where they all land. Well, that

451
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Speaker 1: would be prepared presented by Castro Ledge. What's up everybody?

452
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to move the six presented by Castro Ledge,

453
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Speaker 1: and welcome back into the body shop. Last week with

454
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars into the body shop and we try

455
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Speaker 1: to get that car fixed. Buck, We still have to

456
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Speaker 1: work to do there. Another car that needs a lot

457
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Speaker 1: of work is the car that is the New York Jets,

458
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Speaker 1: buck So what do you say we take the Jets

459
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Speaker 1: in side the body shop today and start with the

460
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Speaker 1: little tinkering they've already done. They've they announced they put

461
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Speaker 1: the franchise tag on Marcus May their safety and Marcus

462
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: made play like a monster for them last year, stepped

463
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Speaker 1: in for Jamal Adams, took over the leadership responsibilities but

464
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: also the playmaking responsibilities. To bring him back on the

465
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Speaker 1: franchise tag. It gives you a playmaker and a leader

466
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Speaker 1: in the back end. They needed to retain the services.

467
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Speaker 1: Did a good job of them by keeping them. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: good football player. They can't afford to be losing many

469
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Speaker 1: of those. Uh, this is a huge offseason for the Jets,

470
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Speaker 1: and let's jump into it here. Let's start off here

471
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Speaker 1: with our next gen stats powered by Amazon Web Services.

472
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Speaker 1: I think, look, the elephant in the room. You've got

473
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Speaker 1: to figure out the quarterback position. That's the decision they have.

474
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Speaker 1: When you look at Sam Donald last year and you

475
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Speaker 1: see the numbers here on the bottom of the screen, Bucket, Look,

476
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: he was the illustrated pastor National Football League. He also

477
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Speaker 1: had some struggles even when he was kept clean inside

478
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Speaker 1: the pocket. So it's a tough decision for them. Do

479
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Speaker 1: you try and incorporate Sam with the with the new

480
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Speaker 1: coaching staff and think he can be a fit there,

481
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Speaker 1: or do you try and make a move here. So

482
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Speaker 1: a big decision to be made here with the number

483
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Speaker 1: two pick. Yeah, big decision to be made. But DJ

484
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: is less about Sam Donna and more about the blueprint

485
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Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl. Eight quarterbacks in the

486
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Speaker 1: last in Super Bowls have been on original Ricky contracts.

487
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Speaker 1: I think you have to make the move and going

488
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Speaker 1: to draft see if you can find your franchise guy.

489
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Speaker 1: And we talked about the draft being the engine here,

490
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Speaker 1: So that's the first thing we're gonna do here in

491
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Speaker 1: the body shops. Fix the engine. You mentioned the money.

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Speaker 1: Let me lay that out for you. Sam Donald is

493
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Speaker 1: gonna make around four point eight this year, so let's

494
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Speaker 1: round that up to five. He would get twenty million

495
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Speaker 1: the following year and a fifth year option around thirty

496
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Speaker 1: million if you wanted to franchise him after that. So

497
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Speaker 1: that's three years, eighteen point three million. The guy you're

498
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Speaker 1: looking at right here Zack Wilson, who we have them

499
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Speaker 1: taking over four years before he gets to his fifth

500
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Speaker 1: year option. Talking about eight point seven average per year.

501
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Speaker 1: So you take Zach Wilson, you free up ten million

502
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Speaker 1: dollars and you can go do some other shopping as well.

503
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Speaker 1: But this guy fits beautifully into this offense. He absolutely

504
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: does fit into this offense. In this offense is one

505
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Speaker 1: that makes the game very easy for the quarterback. Za

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Speaker 1: Wilson not only is a talented thrower, but he's athletic

507
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Speaker 1: enough to threaten you on a perimeter. When you think

508
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: about the play passes, the stretch, booleg action, debt are

509
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: really key components to this offense. I would expect Zach

510
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Speaker 1: Wilson to succeed in this offense. Have given the opportunity. Yeah,

511
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Speaker 1: we make some wild plays and this is where let's

512
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Speaker 1: start having some fun here. Let's go ideal offseason, because

513
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Speaker 1: I think there's a chance when you look at teams

514
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Speaker 1: picking eight, nine, and twelve, you look at Caroline, you

515
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Speaker 1: look at Denver, you look at San Francisco, I think

516
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Speaker 1: all three of those teams could be in on Sam Donald.

517
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: So if you're the Jets, you try and auction off

518
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald at this point in time, you're not gonna

519
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Speaker 1: get one of those picks in the first round straight

520
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Speaker 1: at for Sam Donald. That's not happening, but I do

521
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Speaker 1: think it's reasonable. You could take your pick at the

522
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Speaker 1: top of the second round, package it with Sam Donald

523
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Speaker 1: and potentially get up to twelve, nine or maybe even eight.

524
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Speaker 1: So let's let's shoot for it here. Let's let's make

525
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Speaker 1: that trade Sam Donald pick thirty four and that goes

526
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Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos for pick number nine. Uh. Now

527
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Speaker 1: the Jets are sitting here, sitting pretty buck. They've got

528
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Speaker 1: to top ten picks and now they can address the

529
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Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, you want to address the offensive line

530
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Speaker 1: is you want to put a right tackle opposite of

531
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Speaker 1: Mackay Beckton. So what about Rashon Slater from Northwest And

532
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: he's got to play anywhere on this offensive line, but

533
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Speaker 1: he could be a premier right tackle. You put him

534
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Speaker 1: opposite McKay Beckton. You have to ed just protected, but

535
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Speaker 1: you also have the ability to push people off the ball.

536
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: You want to be able to run the football. You

537
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: now have a fortunes in front of your quarterback. You've

538
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: really made a lot of improvements by simply making a

539
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Speaker 1: good pick to get one of the best, if not

540
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Speaker 1: the best edge block in the draft. I wouldn't hate it.

541
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Speaker 1: If they lined him up right next to McKay Beckton

542
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Speaker 1: either at left guard, Buck, and you can be a

543
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Speaker 1: left handed run team there with those two guys playing

544
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: next to each other and be a lot of fun. Uh.

545
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: They still have pick number twenty three, that's the one

546
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: they got from the Seattle Seahawks. Uh. This is a

547
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Speaker 1: team Buck that has needs all over the defense, edge rusher,

548
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: and at the corner position. Yeah. Look, they need a

549
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: big time corner to play in the division where they're

550
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: playing and where you're beginning to see quarterback play pop up.

551
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, you would like to think that two are

552
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: talking about La may emerge in year two. So let's

553
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: get somebody that can do it. Ja see Horn from

554
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: South Carolina would be a nice pick. Dynamic, ethnicue, playmaker, tough, physical,

555
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: does a great job of getting his hands on the ball.

556
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: He could come in and you would like to think

557
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: day one he steps into the lineup and add some

558
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: sauce and sizzle to this defense. Now, look, we'll see

559
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: if he can get there to pick twenty three. Again,

560
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: this is our optimistic view of fixing the vehicle that

561
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: is the New York Jets. Let's get to some add

562
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: ons here we talked about fixing the engine with the

563
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: draft add ons uh come via free agency. This team

564
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: has a lot of money to spend. They kind of

565
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: took their medicine last year to free themselves up this year.

566
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: And we look out at some of the positions that

567
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: need We still need an addresher, We still need to

568
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: complement this receiving corps. They got some good pieces there,

569
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 1: but needs some more as well. What do you think

570
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: here in free agency? Well, I think we have to

571
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: go both ways. I think offensively, it's about making sure

572
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: that you have one of those playmakers. Because the staff

573
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: coming over from San Francisco, they understand the value of

574
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Speaker 1: a wing back. How about Curtis Samuel coming over from

575
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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, terrific playmaker head over one thousands scrimmage yards.

576
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: You can use him a variety of different ways, much

577
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: like the Niners were able to use Deebo Samuel and

578
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: Brandon and you Curtis Samuel is certainly in that area.

579
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: And then you've talked about an edge rusher, maybe bud Dupri.

580
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: Bud Dupri, even though he's coming off that a c L,

581
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: he gives you a dynamic athlete off the edge. He's

582
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Speaker 1: coming to his own as a pass rusher over the

583
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Speaker 1: last couple of years. Helps to gest because they have

584
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: to find somebody who can get after the pass. Yeah,

585
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: they've got to address that pass rush or whether they

586
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: do that with their draft picks or in free agency,

587
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: that has to be accomplished in this offseason. The next

588
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: thing we want to do, but you want to upgrade

589
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: something here, and I think maybe we can even do

590
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: it with the guy you just talked about there and

591
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel. Got to upgrade the run game. Um. And

592
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: when you look back at this next gen stat uh

593
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: from last year, Frank Gore, when you look at the

594
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: yards over expected, so the yards you're expected to get,

595
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: how much more do you get? He was minus a

596
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: hundred and ten yards, which was the worst in the

597
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: league last year. So when we we can look he

598
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: is a Hall of famer, He's had a great career.

599
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: They need some youth, they need some fresh legs back there. Uh.

600
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not so sure Curtis Samuel. You couldn't throw

601
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: him back there and he gets you a thousand yards

602
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: back there is a running back. Yeah, he he absolutely

603
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: would be able to contribute to be able to add

604
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: to the run game. But how about looking at what

605
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: they already have and lea Michael p Ryan, Laura compter ran.

606
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Last year he had about two hundred hundred six yards

607
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: only average three point six perk carry. But what we

608
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: know about this run game that Robert Sala and his

609
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: staff is bringing over, it is one that really can't

610
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: create and elevate the players that are one cud runners.

611
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: P Run is a one cup runner who was certainly

612
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: excellent a scheme like this, Yeah, I liked what I

613
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: saw last year. Let's give him some more opportunities. I

614
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: like that. All right, let's boost something up. We we

615
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: we look at what we already have. We want to

616
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: boost it up. You talked about p Ryan, Man, I

617
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: look at Quinton Williams and the way he came on

618
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the year last year. And then

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Speaker 1: I look at Robert Sala and that scheme coming over

620
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: where they are gonna let these dudes attack and get

621
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Speaker 1: up field. Man, I think you're gonna see a huge

622
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Speaker 1: breakout year here from Quentin Williams coming off a solid

623
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Speaker 1: year last year. Yeah, I mean I think she was

624
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: more of a breakout year. We saw the light really

625
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: come on the last half of the season, made a

626
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 1: ton of plays, made impact plays at the line of scrimmage. Well,

627
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: now you put him in a scheme that has really

628
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: tailored to his talents meeting he can just play. He

629
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: can come up the field, play aggressively, utilize his hands,

630
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: his combination of athleticism and power to play on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the line of scrimmage. The Jets need

632
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: him to be the premier player on the front line.

633
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: This scheme could help him kind of meet those goals

634
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: and expectations. Yeah, he saw the numbers there at the

635
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: bottom of the screen. The pressure rate was not great

636
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: here for the Jets. But man Quentin Williams was outstanding.

637
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: Seven sacks last year. I think he gets in the

638
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: double digits this year. Uh. Could have made a strong

639
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: case for the Pro Bowl last year. I think he

640
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: gets one UH this year. He's a phenomenal talent and

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a big year from Quentin

642
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: Williams in this scheme. All right, Well, that was next

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Speaker 1: hitch dandy jar on the state inside the five and

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Speaker 1: show the state dobbin stopping stopping the Ohio State University

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Speaker 1: has produced the second most running backs drafted in the

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Speaker 1: first two rounds. I'm about to be joined by a

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Speaker 1: guy who just joined that fraternity, j K. Dobbin's second

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Speaker 1: round pig fifty five overall in last year's draft. J K,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? And I'm good man, I'm I'm blessed.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Though? I'm doing well. So one

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Speaker 1: of the first things that I have to get to,

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Speaker 1: because you guys are so terrific, I want to start

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Speaker 1: out our pro to Prospects series by having you take

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Speaker 1: a look at one of your fellow buck eys tray

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Speaker 1: sermon on some of the similar traits that you guys share.

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Speaker 1: When we start out, I just want to say, you're

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Speaker 1: one of more physical running backs that I've seen. Talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about your physicality. Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I try to, you know, play a physical game whenever

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Speaker 1: I have to, you know what I'm saying. And because

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Speaker 1: my thing is I don't want to be brought down

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Speaker 1: by just one guy, you know what I'm saying, Because

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Speaker 1: you know, at the House State the coaches would preach

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Speaker 1: about that if you get brought that about one guy,

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Speaker 1: then we probably need to sit you on the bench.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So so I try to

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Speaker 1: prop myself on that, you know, running physical and gaining

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Speaker 1: the extra two or three yards whenever that it should

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Speaker 1: have been a one yard one yard game or something

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Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, I prowd myself on that. Work

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Speaker 1: real hard in the weight room. I didn't you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know, put on the weight so

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Speaker 1: I can run through arm typics and things like that. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's funny that you talk about physicality and it seemed

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Speaker 1: like it was a culture thing at Ohio State. Um,

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Speaker 1: when we look at trade sermon, he also displays physicality.

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Speaker 1: What have you seen from him? Oh? Yeah, that that

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Speaker 1: that boy can run that ball. He real physical. You know,

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Speaker 1: one guy ain't bringing him down, you know what I'm say.

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna run the ball real hard. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: get the extra yards, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I like his game a lot. Man, I

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Speaker 1: do think he's gonna be He's gonna be good at

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Speaker 1: the next level as well. You know, all running backs,

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Speaker 1: particularly elite running backs, have great vision. One of the

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Speaker 1: things that you just played at Ohio State and also

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Speaker 1: your first season with the Baltimore Ravens has been your vision,

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Speaker 1: ability to see cuts. Um, what goes into having great

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Speaker 1: vision as a running back? You know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: a lot of it is, uh, you know, studying your scheme,

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Speaker 1: your team scheme, and how the how the line is

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Speaker 1: blocking everything up, because that slows the game down real

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Speaker 1: real fast, you know what I'm saying, And you know

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Speaker 1: where everybody's gonna be, how that's gonna be blocked up.

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Speaker 1: And then you added in the film, watch the film

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Speaker 1: on the defense and you know what I'm saying, see

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Speaker 1: how linebackers gonna flow with you know, how aggressive they

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Speaker 1: play and things like that, and I feel like, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The most important thing though, is

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Speaker 1: to know what the blocking scheme is like for that

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Speaker 1: particular run play and then that just slows it down

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Speaker 1: for everything. Just knowing whatever everybody's gonna do, where they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be, and it just slow it down. And that

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Speaker 1: that makes your vision. You know, that's a guy given

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Speaker 1: thing too, though, but you can work on that and

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Speaker 1: that's my main thing. I think that helps me, you know,

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Speaker 1: have great vision to be able to see the whole

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Speaker 1: before it's even gonna be there. Because you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, we got a dope team going on right there.

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Speaker 1: That double team may take time to get to the

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Speaker 1: second level, and you know what's gonna be there though,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's how that's

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Speaker 1: that's where I get it from, you know what I'm saying. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's funny because college backs, it's hard to find

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Speaker 1: guys who have that patience and that vision. When we

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Speaker 1: look at Tray Sermon, do you see a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that in his game? Oh yeah, Oh yeah. I

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Speaker 1: feel like Trey Sermon is a very mature runner. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He waits for his blocks, he's patient,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna hit the whole. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: hit it hard, you know what I'm saying, Gonna hit

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Speaker 1: it with tenacity. You're gonna he's gonna be physical coming

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Speaker 1: through that whole. You know, they know arm tackles with

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Speaker 1: that guy. It's funny that you're talking about avoiding armchat

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Speaker 1: because running through arm cha because a lot of times

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Speaker 1: we equate that too playing with low pad level. When

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Speaker 1: you run, you have a tendency to fall forward because

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Speaker 1: you play with low pad level did you learn that

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Speaker 1: what goes into having low pad level as a runner? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So having low pad level is just you know, you

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Speaker 1: always want to have that leverage, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And um, I never want to be stood up by

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Speaker 1: a guy and like put back, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like it's embarrassing. So I try to

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Speaker 1: play low. So and you always want to deliver to hit,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I feel like you would

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Speaker 1: hurt more if you you playing high, you got hit,

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Speaker 1: you know, because guys are the NFL. They all they're

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Speaker 1: all good. Everyone's good, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: if you up high, you getting hit, you're getting popped.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, You're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of your family hit. And you are like

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Speaker 1: you got hit, boy, you better get low or your

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Speaker 1: friends making fun of you. So you don't want to

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Speaker 1: be that guy. So I just I probed myself and

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Speaker 1: staying low, you know what I'm saying. And you can

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Speaker 1: you can create more speed that way coming out your cut.

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Speaker 1: You stay low in your cut, you're coming up, you're

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Speaker 1: coming off facts. And so that's why I keep my

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Speaker 1: pad level low. It's funny because we talked about balanced

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Speaker 1: body control, low pad level. Trade Sermon certainly displayed with

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Speaker 1: some of those things. I'm sure you saw that when

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Speaker 1: you watched him. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he definitely does.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's a good pad

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Speaker 1: level and that's why it's it's so hard for guys

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Speaker 1: to bring him down. Just one guy to bring him down.

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Speaker 1: And he's also a bigger body too, so being a

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Speaker 1: bigger body and me and Low, Yeah, he gonna have

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Speaker 1: that leverage and he gonna he's gonna break his first tackle,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm very excited to

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Speaker 1: gonna do it level. Well, look, man, we appreciate your

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Speaker 1: insight breaking down another bucket on our pro the Prospect series.

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Speaker 1: We expect to see you and Trade Sermon shot at

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Speaker 1: the next level next year. Let's go all the way

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Speaker 1: back to you at Ohio State and we talked about

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Speaker 1: the culture. You guys have produced a ton of running backs,

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Speaker 1: um Eddie, George Zekiel Elliott, you the next coming will

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Speaker 1: be Trade Sermon. What is it about playing at Ohio

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Speaker 1: State that allowedge you guys to dominate and dominate at

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Speaker 1: the next level as well. Yeah, so I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: of course the coaches, it starts there. You know, coaches

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Speaker 1: gonna get us right. You know, Tony Offerd does a

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Speaker 1: great job of you know I'm getting us right, you know,

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Speaker 1: teaching us to learn blocking schemes, teaching us and stay

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Speaker 1: low your pound level. I mean in practice as well,

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Speaker 1: we hid me, you know what I'm saying. So you

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Speaker 1: you get stood up, We're gonna hear about it. You

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Speaker 1: know I'm saying. You don't hear about it because you

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Speaker 1: know how stay is a lot of talent walking around,

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Speaker 1: so you try to uh compete with that. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You want to start a spot, So

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Speaker 1: coaches preach on stay handlow, keep you a pound level low.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what you gotta do to to to

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Speaker 1: least play. Get yourself in the dough. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So bad and then it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: it's tradition. You gotta watch your Griffin, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. He two time Heisman winner, You got Eddie

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Speaker 1: George Hoisman winner, you got Zeke Elliott fourth overall, you

790
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Just guys like that you gotta

791
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Speaker 1: you gotta uphold the standard, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's why stays so special with the

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Speaker 1: running backs. Well, look, man, the one thing that we

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Speaker 1: know great guys come from Ohio State. We're excited to

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Speaker 1: see you continue to progress with your NFL career as

796
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Speaker 1: well as all the other buck Eyes that are about

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Speaker 1: to be the next generation that starts in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. Thanks so much for joining me on the

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Speaker 1: Moother Sticks podcast. But yeah, thanks for having me. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure talking to you and your evaluations

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Speaker 1: and everything and just kind of looking at you guys,

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Speaker 1: You and Dan and Ray and everybody want to build

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Speaker 1: there this draft. Are you necessarily out of the quarterback market? Oh? No,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know, absolutely not. Um, you know, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think when you're picking this high, uh, that

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Speaker 1: you can be out on any position. But obviously quarterback

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Speaker 1: is such an important position, and you know, I just

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Speaker 1: think it's good, it's good drafting business always to be

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Speaker 1: be to be very very thorough on that quarterback class,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what your situation is. Um. You know, always

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Speaker 1: when else with with the Rams, always said that, you know,

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Speaker 1: always regardless of which you had at quarterback, and even

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Speaker 1: especially now you know it's it's it's the same approach,

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Speaker 1: and you know it is a good crop coming out

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Speaker 1: this year. UM, but you know it's definitely not a

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Speaker 1: position that will be ignored by us, um by any means.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Brad Holmes there on the Huddle and

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Speaker 1: you here in the podcast space. All right, buck, let's

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Speaker 1: let's keep things going here. What's some hashtag asked MTS questions.

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Speaker 1: We put that out there to you on Twitter, and man,

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Speaker 1: the questions came rolling in. So let's get to some

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Speaker 1: of these here. Let's start with the first one here.

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Speaker 1: This one's from Christopher Matt's and he wants to know

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Speaker 1: the best fits for North Dakota State quarterback Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: What do you think I think the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: Nines would be the perfect fit for Trey Lance when

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Speaker 1: I look at his game, uh and how he was

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Speaker 1: asked to play a North Dakota State. I think it

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Speaker 1: allows them to be really a nice fit in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: He can play under center, he can do the shotgun stuff,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback run game. I think Kyle Shanahan has so

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Speaker 1: much volume in his playbook that he could make Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance a star. I think you play at an all

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Speaker 1: star level under Cal Shanahan's tutelage. Yeah. I like that fit.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he goes beyond them. But man to me,

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots with kind of how they're trying

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Speaker 1: to win now, they're gonna get guys back on defense,

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Speaker 1: great defense, special teams, shorten the game, run the football.

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance would seem to fit into that formula. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to the next question here. This one's from Tom O'Malley,

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Speaker 1: and he wants to know about the Bears. Naggie and

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Speaker 1: Pace must win next year. So really just getting down

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Speaker 1: to it, what position or what player, uh do you

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Speaker 1: think they should go for at the quarterback spot here

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Speaker 1: for the Bears. I mean it, it is tough because

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Speaker 1: the Bears have so many different things that they need

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Speaker 1: to get accomplished, and the quarterback position excuse more towards

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Speaker 1: them needing a veteran as opposed to a younger player.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's stuff because when now they gotta figure

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Speaker 1: out how to improve what they currently have. I don't

855
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: know if any one player can help get them over

856
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Speaker 1: the top, to be honest, DJ, Yeah to me. Look

857
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: the one that makes the most senses Russell Wilson. But

858
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: I see these rumors out there, I don't see how

859
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Speaker 1: Seattle could ever do that. Buck. What are they going

860
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: to have to play with at the quarterback position that

861
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: the Bears can offer? The picks are in no man's land.

862
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: They don't have an option on the team that they

863
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: can ship to you. So I don't get that one

864
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: that that rumor has has no legs to me. Yeah

865
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Speaker 1: to me, I I can't figure that one out either,

866
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: because I don't know what they would get in all

867
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: the day cap money daycapt charge that would go to

868
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: their cap this year would do it. But I do

869
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: sense there's some frustration there. But if you're the Bear,

870
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: swing for the fences, because you may not get all

871
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: the way out, no doubt. All right, let's get to

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Speaker 1: this next one, and you'll recognize this name. It's our

873
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: good buddy here, Hunter Mayhan outstanding professional golfer, no combine.

874
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Speaker 1: You see a shift in philosophy or trends for teams

875
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: picking players this year? What do you think, Buck? Yeah, yeah,

876
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: I think this is a situation where teams are really

877
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: gonna have to rely on the tape. And we can

878
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: talk about the two models where you go for the

879
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: player that is ready to plug in play or do

880
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: you want to take a chance when the guy that

881
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: has the higher ceiling they could be a developmental prospect.

882
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: Depending on how your program is constructed, it will determine

883
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: which kind of prospect you go after. But it will

884
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: be different, more filmed and workouts, different year, different years

885
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: this time. Yeah, I mean I think of guys that

886
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: you know played in the SEC and that also went

887
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl and then do the Pro Day

888
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: that those to me are like the safer type guys.

889
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: You've seen him play a full season, good competition, All

890
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Star Game, Pro Day. It's really they've kind of had

891
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: the full cycle. Then you've got other guys who didn't

892
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: even have a season this year. Uh so it's gonna

893
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: be unique, all right, this this next one here, let's

894
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: go Brad Parsons. Am I crazy to think that Caleb

895
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: Farley maybe the best non QB prospect in the draft. Brad,

896
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy. To me. He's a He's

897
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: a top ten player all day long. And I think

898
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Speaker 1: he's the best corner in the draft. I know some

899
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Speaker 1: maybe have Patrick Certain the second there Buck, but no,

900
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a easy statement. No, I don't

901
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: think it's crazy because I think in the draft we're

902
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: trying to find who are the top defensive players. He

903
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: has a lot of things to offer that you like. Big, size, evident,

904
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: he's going to test, will, can play his own, makes

905
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: a ton of plays on it, and he's tough enough.

906
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: So he's now standing prospect, all right. Last one here,

907
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: it's our buddy or Laevsky. Here, dan Orlovsky. Who is

908
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: your Laevsky comp in this class? And for me it's

909
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. I mean, you're talking about the best athletes,

910
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: really rare, you know everything that you want in the position.

911
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: I think when you think of Kyle Pitch, you think

912
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: of future Hall of famer, And when I think of

913
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Speaker 1: Hall of famers, the only name that comes into my

914
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Speaker 1: mind is dan Orlovsky. Oh, I like that. That is

915
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: a nice pick. Because you're talking about you really touch

916
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Speaker 1: on Dan's everything that's about him. You see the explosive athleticism,

917
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Speaker 1: the ability to be a dynamic playmaker on the outside.

918
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Speaker 1: He is unique as a talent, so it makes you special,

919
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: so you have to regard him as one of the

920
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Speaker 1: best in the business. So yeah, I think that is

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Speaker 1: a very apt comparison when you compare dani Orlovsky the

922
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: cop pits. Yeah. Look, you can't keep Kyle Pitts in

923
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Speaker 1: a box and you can't keep Dan Orlovsky out of

924
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Speaker 1: the end zone. I mean to me, there's just there's

925
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: just no way to contain with the one of them.

926
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Speaker 1: So that's why that's why I go with that comp

927
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Speaker 1: there for our guy, or Lavsky, we love you, buddy,

928
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Speaker 1: all right. That's gonna do it for us today. I

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Speaker 1: hope you guys have enjoyed the show. Would encourage you

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Speaker 1: to check out NFL dot com Slash Podcast, NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com slash MTS video. You can find all of our

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Speaker 1: content there and check out the rest of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Media podcast as well. That's gonna do it. He's Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Jeremiah. Thanks for hanging with us here. On move,

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