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Speaker 2: Today on the show, we have Jeff Frank Corer who's

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Speaker 2: going to be joining us. We cannot wait for him

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Speaker 1: Us, Frenchie, Frenchie, and we just finished the Olympics in Paris.

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Speaker 1: What a perfect time to have Frenchie Frank coor with us.

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Speaker 2: So many great Olympic games over the weekend and a

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Speaker 2: great Kirkchen family weekend too. So it was my thirty

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Speaker 2: first birthday on Friday, and then my wife Emily did

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Speaker 2: And then the next day my daughter McKinley, our daughter,

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Speaker 1: Right, and Jeff, I'm going to always remember McKinley's first

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Speaker 1: birthday because she's my granddaughter. But it's also the day

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Speaker 1: that the United States men won the gold medal in basketball,

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Speaker 1: which they were supposed to. But the Steph Curry shooting

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Speaker 1: performance was one of the greatest things I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: And you know how much I love basketball, especially shooter.

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Speaker 1: Steph is the greatest shooter of all time. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: there is not a close second. And he made four

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Speaker 1: to threes down the stretch, that final three, the four

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Speaker 1: to three that he made I think is not only

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Speaker 1: the biggest three that he's ever made in his career,

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Speaker 1: which is really saying something. It's one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: shots in the history of basketball and has to be

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Speaker 1: the biggest shot ever taken in an Olympic game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's am I wrong about this? Well?

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Speaker 2: I didn't think anything could top the men's game gold

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Speaker 2: final against France, but then the women played France in

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Speaker 2: the gold and what an incredible game that was.

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Speaker 1: Right again, it was such a tremendous weekend for family

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Speaker 1: stuff and for the Olympics, which were tremendous. And now

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Speaker 1: we have to look forward to the Little League World

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Speaker 1: Series and our guest Jeff Francour, deals a lot now

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Speaker 1: with kids and parents and understanding what the competition is

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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it. And this is my

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Speaker 1: tenth year Jeff covering the Little League Militaries, my favorite event.

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Speaker 1: We joke about poor pop up, but one year we

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Speaker 1: did the people from research looked up that fifty two

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Speaker 1: percent of the kids at the Little League World Series

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Speaker 1: were taller than me, which I thought was unnecessary that

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Speaker 1: anyone needed to look that up. There was what There

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Speaker 1: was a kid named Terrence who was from South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: He was five to ten. He weighed one hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty pounds. Wow, and I mean he was this big

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Speaker 1: the second grade, that's what he said. What a great

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Speaker 1: answer from a twelve year old. I loved it. So

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Speaker 1: that's what we have to look forward to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going to be at the Little League

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Speaker 2: World Series with our friends of Changer. So if you

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Speaker 2: plan on being down there, you have a son or

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Speaker 2: daughter who's going to be there, or you just go

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Speaker 2: there for enjoyment, come join us the Game Changer tent.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be joined by a very special guest.

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Speaker 2: Todd Fraser is going to be joining us as our guest.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to have an episode that comes from

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Speaker 2: the Little League World Here.

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Speaker 1: The biggest twelve year old of all time is Todd Frazier.

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Speaker 1: He collects pins. He's wonderful. I can't wait to talk

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Speaker 1: to him this week.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's good to get back behind the mic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's kick it off with our takeaways Dad

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Speaker 2: for this week in Major League baseball.

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Speaker 1: Well, there were so many, but Aaron Judge on Sunday

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Speaker 1: to blow that away. He's also, Jeff, He's going to

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Speaker 1: This covers a lot of ground to have an OPS

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Speaker 1: Also this week, Jeff, and we've been over this, the

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Speaker 1: Jackson's had another great week. Okay. So Jackson, holiday youngest

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Speaker 1: three consecutive games, Jackson Turio of the Brewers became the

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Speaker 1: And Jackson Merrill of the Padres has now hit five

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Speaker 1: this is so cool that the Jackson three, as we'll

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Speaker 1: had a call in the Dodger game in which, you know,

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Speaker 1: obstruction and interference.

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Speaker 2: So obstruction is when you obstruct a base runner from

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Speaker 1: Last thing on the takeaways. Jake Berger, who's one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite players. Jake Berger has twelve home through Sunday,

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Speaker 1: twelve homers the second half of the season. I'm still

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Speaker 1: can't understand why the Marlins didn't trade him, because how

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Speaker 1: many teams, you know, the Mariners and others could use

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Speaker 1: another hitter in their lineup. This guy can really hit.

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Speaker 1: He's a big, stocky guy, but he runs way better

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Speaker 1: I just love his name, Jeff. You know how people

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Speaker 1: it's like long before your day. Bridget Bardo, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you not be with a name like Bridget Bardoux? How

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Speaker 1: beautiful is that? Boris Karloff is like the scariest you

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Speaker 1: Be Some people actually fit their name, and I think

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Speaker 1: Jake Berger does and he's a really good basement, no

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Speaker 2: Our game changer of the week we do this every

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Speaker 2: will be with our friends a game changer for the

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Speaker 2: Little League World Series.

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Speaker 1: What would you consider the game, Jeff? This is why

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Speaker 1: baseball is so great. People ask me all the time,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what's so great about it. You

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Speaker 1: World Series right now? I can count a dozen teams

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Speaker 1: and I think could win the World Series. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can get to the stretch run in football

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Speaker 1: or the NBA and think, yeah, there are twelve teams

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Speaker 1: But so the other day, the Orioles became the first

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Speaker 1: The point is it is going to be a free

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Speaker 1: for all down the stretch and in October, every day

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Speaker 1: is going to be a fistfight to see who's the

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Speaker 1: was clearly the best team in the National League. Now

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Speaker 1: Are the Dodgers better than that? Now they are? And

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Speaker 1: that could of course turn again in a month. The

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Speaker 1: crk jins, What do you've got for us? Okay? So

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Speaker 1: the White Sox finally won. They ended their twenty one

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Speaker 1: the eighty eight Orioles, who, of course I covered every day.

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Speaker 1: So they have an infielder named Brooks Baldwin who his

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Speaker 1: de Buscher's a Hall of Fame basketball player. I grew

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Speaker 1: But it's always beautiful when you see a Brooks Baldwood

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of crazy notes box score lines

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Speaker 1: And you know, Jeff, how much I love sack of flies.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants won a game the other day, three

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Speaker 1: Where was in nineteen fifty nine?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 1: So, I mean I love stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Dad loves that so much. It's it's my birthday on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, Happy birthday, Jeff. Did you see that three

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Speaker 1: Ninth right right before I even gave you a present.

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Speaker 1: You were so excited they gave you a sacrifice fly.

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Speaker 1: it again, right, And it was him again at first base.

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Speaker 1: I saw him after the game and he went, can

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Speaker 1: you believe that happened? It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: All right, we go to league in Lids and this

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Speaker 2: week the aforementioned Houston Astros were just talking about all right.

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Speaker 1: So the Astros have been to seven consecutive league championship series,

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Speaker 1: which is quite a run. But I always think of

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Speaker 1: the Astros, and I think of Bagwell and Bigio. So

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Speaker 1: I was. Jeff Bagwell was a minor league player in

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox system when he was traded from the

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Speaker 1: from the Red Sox to the Astros. And I was

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Speaker 1: in the clubhouse with the Orioles that night and the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox on the day that Jeff Bagwell was traded

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Speaker 1: for Larry Anderson, who's a broadcaster for Europe Philadelphia, Hilly,

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Speaker 1: so I remember Davey Lopes of the Astro, I mean

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Speaker 1: of the Orioles said to me, he goes, well, the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox just won the division because Larry Anderson was

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Speaker 1: such a good relief pitcher, and this is exactly what

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox needed, was a another late inning reliever.

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Speaker 1: And he was right. Larry Anderson was great. Jeff Bagwell

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Speaker 1: went on to become a Hall of Fame baseball player.

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Speaker 1: Larry Anderson, by the way, is one of the funniest

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Speaker 1: people of all time. He's the guy who was a

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Speaker 1: terrible hitting pitcher, but one year he actually got two

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Speaker 1: hits in his first two at bats as relief pitcher,

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Speaker 1: so he was two for two and he told me,

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Speaker 1: he goes, I think my average should be two thousand

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Speaker 1: instead of one thousand if I'm two for two, And

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Speaker 1: he said that way, if I make it out and

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Speaker 1: I'm two for three, my average would only drop to

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred, which right, that's the way he looked at

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Speaker 1: He also told me a story once that when he

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Speaker 1: was in the minor leagues, he was also the clubhouse guy, Like,

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Speaker 1: he ran the clubhouse while he was playing in the

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Speaker 1: minor league. So they didn't have enough money for a

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Speaker 1: clubhouse kid. He told me once. He said, he's pitching

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Speaker 1: in a game and he's thinking to himself while he's

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Speaker 1: trying to get the hitter out. Oh my gosh, I

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Speaker 1: forgot to change to put the washing in the dryer.

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Speaker 1: That's what he That's what he was thinking about during

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Speaker 1: a major during a minor league game. Oh and Craig

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Speaker 1: Bigio is the other one. Craig Bigio Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: second baseman, one of the best players, the best second

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Speaker 1: basement I ever covered. And once you know, he got

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Speaker 1: hit by pitches all the time, and nobody played harder

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Speaker 1: than him. He once told me, I promise you I've

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Speaker 1: taken more advil than any player in major league history.

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Speaker 1: That's what he told me so Pete Harnish was watched

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Speaker 1: him play. Pete Harnish became his teammate in Houston pitcher.

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Speaker 1: Pete Harnish involved in one of the great mismatched trades

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Speaker 1: of all time. Not important. And and Pete Harnish told

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Speaker 1: me that Craig Bigio was the greatest high school football

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Speaker 1: player that he's ever seen, and he was going to

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Speaker 1: go play football at Penn State, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: he had the grades to get into Penn State. Ended

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Speaker 1: up being a Hall of Fame baseball player. And Pete

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Speaker 1: Harnish I covered him with the Orioles. And when he

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Speaker 1: went to Fordam University, he told me to you know,

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Speaker 1: which is in New York. To make a little extra

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Speaker 1: money on side, he used to appear in police lineups

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Speaker 1: as a yes, as a college student. As he told

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Speaker 1: me with his beautifully thick New York accent, he goes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: twenty five dollars for a regular case, fifty dollars for

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Speaker 1: a murder case. That's what he did as a as

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Speaker 1: a college baseball player, he appeared at police life. He

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Speaker 1: might have been wrongly identified as a murderer, right, but

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Speaker 1: he's a diass was there ever was there ever? Was

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Speaker 1: it ever close that they know? He goes No, it's

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Speaker 1: all set up. But I looked. I was one of

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Speaker 1: those guys who looked good in a police lineup. All right.

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Speaker 3: So the Kirchon quandary this week.

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Speaker 2: I have to say, if you don't follow us on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: if you do Instagram, you should at great game or what?

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Speaker 2: Because Dad, these Kirkshon quandaries go nuts on social media,

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Speaker 2: especially on our Instagram.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into our Kirkshon quandry.

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Speaker 2: Dad, and I want you to get into this one

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Speaker 2: because for as long as I can remember, this has

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Speaker 2: been a debate amongst family and friends in our lives, right.

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Speaker 1: Much to your mother's chagrin. Let's explain the Kirkchin quandary. Okay,

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Speaker 1: why are we doing it this week? What is the hook?

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Speaker 2: Well, Devin Hester was just recently inducted into Canton, Ohio's

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Speaker 2: NFL Hall of.

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Speaker 1: Fame, and I believe he's the first kick returner to

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Speaker 1: go into the Hall of fame. So this is and

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Speaker 1: the reason the quandaries people like it is the stupider

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Speaker 1: the question, the better. And this might be the stupidest

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Speaker 1: one we've ever asked, so, but I'm a big believer

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Speaker 1: in stupid questions. All right, So, Devin Hester, the greatest

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Speaker 1: kick returner of all time, is on a football field,

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Speaker 1: and he's standing at one goal line. He's got a

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Speaker 1: football in his arms, and there is a killer grizzly bear,

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Speaker 1: nine hundred pound grizzly bear at the fifty yard line,

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Speaker 1: and the grizzly bear wants to kill Devin Hester. Can

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Speaker 1: Devin Hester run from one goal line to the other

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Speaker 1: goal line without the bear catching him and killing him?

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Speaker 1: And the only rule is you have to stay within

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Speaker 1: the football boundaries. You can't run up in the stands,

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Speaker 1: or you have to stay within the football field. So

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Speaker 1: would Devin Hester make it one hundred yards? Or would

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Speaker 1: the bear, who clearly can run faster than Devin Hester.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen the bears can run like forty

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Speaker 1: miles an hour. Devin Hester can probably run twenty five

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Speaker 1: miles an hour. Can he make it from one goal

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Speaker 1: line to the other goal line without getting killed? What

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Speaker 1: do you think?

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Speaker 2: I think, without a doubt that Devin Hester would be

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Speaker 2: able to do this because he's Devin Hester.

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Speaker 3: He's a competitor.

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Speaker 2: I know a bear has a ten foot wingspan, but

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Speaker 2: he's not going.

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Speaker 3: To let a bear get to him. He knows the

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Speaker 3: field better.

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Speaker 1: He's in, he's got the home field advantage. We're not

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Speaker 1: running through the forest or a jungle or anything. We're

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Speaker 1: on a football field. And here's I think he makes

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Speaker 1: it to the other end. And here's why. The bear

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Speaker 1: who's much faster than him, but he can't sorry, he

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Speaker 1: can't be quicker than the greatest return guy. So the

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Speaker 1: bear comes flying at him. Devin Hester's gonna juke him

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Speaker 1: at the twenty yard line, and that bear is gonna

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Speaker 1: take the bait. He's gonna have to turn around. And

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Speaker 1: by the time he turns around and gets to full speed,

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Speaker 1: Devin Hester is gonna make it to the other goal

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Speaker 1: line without getting killed. So Antoine randall Ell used to

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Speaker 1: work at ESPN. He was a great kick returner. I said,

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Speaker 1: I asked this question to Antwine randall L. He looked

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Speaker 1: at me like I was the biggest idiot of all time.

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Speaker 1: The first time I ever met him, I told, hey,

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Speaker 1: Tim Kirkschen and one of the baseball guys, can I

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Speaker 1: ask you a football question. He just shook his head

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Speaker 1: and then he looked, but he did look at me,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, there is no way that that bear

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Speaker 1: is gonna kill me. And I said why, and he goes,

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Speaker 1: because I'm running for my life and he's not. And

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Speaker 1: that's the big separator. So that the family story is

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Speaker 1: that we told this story within the family about one

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Speaker 1: hundred times and Kathy kirkch and your mother has absolutely

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Speaker 1: no patience for questions like this because she's really smart

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Speaker 1: and this is just pointless to her. So I bring

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Speaker 1: this up one vacation trip to Montana, and I bring

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Speaker 1: it up in the car to all of our other

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Speaker 1: dorky friends, Doug O'Bryant, Jim Duff, Tim Dally, those guys.

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Speaker 2: And for some reason, there's two vehicles traveling to the

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Speaker 2: same location. My mom ends up in the same vehicle

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Speaker 2: as these morons.

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Speaker 3: Right, and all of the other ladies are in the

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Speaker 3: other car.

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Speaker 1: Right. So, and we're in Montana, we might actually see

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Speaker 1: a bear. So this is the perfect time to ask

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Speaker 1: the question. I asked it in the car. And what

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Speaker 1: did your mother say?

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Speaker 2: Well, you asked her, Kat, what do you think. She

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Speaker 2: hasn't said a word the entire time, and she just

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Speaker 2: pauses and says, I wish I was in the other car.

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Speaker 1: Might be the funniest thing your mother ever said, and

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Speaker 1: we all laughed out loud because it was stupid. It

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Speaker 1: was annoying. But I think it's interesting. And I think

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Speaker 1: Devin Hester can run from one goal line to the

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Speaker 1: other because he's quicker than the bear.

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Speaker 2: Follow us on Twitter or Instagram at great game or

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Speaker 2: what and you can chime in there for our kirkshin

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Speaker 2: quandry Best of All Tim Now, Dad, last week you

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Speaker 2: kind of started hitter pattering around a best of all

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Speaker 2: cooking team.

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Speaker 3: But have you finally nailed this down?

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Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, The Marlins on July the thirtieth had a

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Speaker 1: guy pitching their game and his name is Austin Kitchen.

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Speaker 1: So seriously, how can you be a baseball writer and

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Speaker 1: not be intrigued by a guy named Austin Kitchen. So

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Speaker 1: I came up with the all Cooking team, which is different,

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Speaker 1: of course, than the all food team. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: too easy, Jake Berger, Jake Lamb, Tim Salmon, Mike Trout.

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Speaker 1: That's all food and we've already done the you know,

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Speaker 1: the fruits and vegetables teams, so I had to do

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Speaker 1: the all cooking team. So This is a gigantic stretch,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna start with all start with a stretch. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's really bad, all right, but it's the best. I

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Speaker 1: told you last week. I couldn't come up with the team,

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Speaker 1: and I tried and worked harder at it, which again

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Speaker 1: shows you how pathetic I YEA. So it's the all

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Speaker 1: cooking team. Eric Fryar is the catch right. Seth Brown

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Speaker 1: is the first baseman. You have to brown the ground

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Speaker 1: beef in order to put it into your spaghetti sauce.

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Speaker 1: Of the twins, Eduardo julian is the second basement. Julianne potatoes.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of that? Yeah, it's the way you

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Speaker 1: slice it. When I have to explain this stuff. That's

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Speaker 1: as you know, it's really bad. Cliff Cook is our

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Speaker 1: third base. A lot of guys named Cook, but you

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Speaker 1: can only use one name because otherwise it would be

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Speaker 1: too easy. Jeff fry different than Eric Fryer.

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Speaker 5: Jeff fry is the shorty something. Yeah, bake McBride, bake McBride.

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Speaker 1: Booney does the greatest Bake McBride impersonation at the plate

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Speaker 1: and Dan Baker full of the Phillies number bake McBride right, right,

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Speaker 1: Dusty Baker is an outfielder and buzz oil is another

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Speaker 1: outfield you have to boil. Yeah, okay, so again Austin

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Speaker 1: Kitchen is one of the pictures. This is a stretch.

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Speaker 1: Jason Grilly with an eye. Sorry, Steve Grilly was his dad.

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Speaker 1: So we have two of those. Tom butters got a butter,

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Speaker 1: that's funny. That's and the a's have a picture. JP sears.

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Speaker 1: You know you have to see her meat sometimes. So

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Speaker 1: that is the All Cooking Team. And it took me

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Speaker 1: a long long time to come up with that. If

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Speaker 1: you don't appreciate it, it's okay. This was a gigantic stretch.

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Speaker 3: But we can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I challenge myself when Austin Kitchen came up

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Speaker 1: to come up with the all Cookie.

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Speaker 3: I can't judge you because I don't come up with

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Speaker 3: these teams.

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Speaker 1: But Jeff, no one comes up with these teams except

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Speaker 1: for me. I'm the only one stupid enough to do it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Frenchie, is that a style of cooking? Right?

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure Jeff Frank core will will you know,

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Speaker 1: chime in on the All Cooking Team. We'll ask him

647
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Speaker 1: about it. Hopefully we don't ask you, No, we will.

648
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Speaker 1: We will. He has such a great sense of humor.

649
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Speaker 1: We can ask him right because I'm sure he knows

650
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Speaker 1: all about food and Frenchy. You know, the French are

651
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Speaker 1: great cook so we'll ask him about it.

652
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Speaker 2: Jeff frank Core is our guest this week on Is

653
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Speaker 2: This a Great Game or What? We're looking forward to

654
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Speaker 2: talking to him and letting you hear it coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Is This a Great Game or What?

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Speaker 1: We are joined by Jeff frank Or, former Major League

657
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Speaker 1: Baseball player, great broadcaster. He runs the podcast Pure Athlete. Jeff,

658
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: This is my son, Jeff Kirtchin.

659
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Speaker 3: Hey, Jeff, I'll.

660
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: Tell you what. If you're anything like your dad, you're

661
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: a good one man.

662
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Speaker 1: Oh that means thanks so much, Frederick. I appreciate it.

663
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Speaker 2: Well, you know it was funny because Pure Athlete. I

664
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Speaker 2: actually props to me. I don't book any guests, Jeff.

665
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Speaker 2: This was my booking getting Jeff frank Korre on the

666
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Speaker 2: You finally landed someone through Pure Athlete. Now I have

667
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Speaker 2: to ask because I texted him. I said I got

668
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Speaker 2: Jeff frank Core booked. Dad was shocked, but then he said,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to Frenchie.

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Speaker 1: Do you speak French? French?

671
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Speaker 4: Hie? No, Everybody asked me all the time, but you know,

672
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: I got so when I signed and I went to

673
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Speaker 4: Instructional League. The one great thing about Bobby Cox is

674
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: he would come to instructional League and hang out for

675
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Speaker 4: two weeks. So here we are eighteen years old, and

676
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: that's what Bobby did. So great. You know tim, you

677
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: know him, feel important and he came down there and

678
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Speaker 4: I remember going. He was going like, Frank, that's too hard.

679
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: He goes, let's call let's call you the Frenchman. And

680
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Speaker 4: then one day, a couple of days later, I went

681
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: up to hit and he's like, let's go frenchy, and dude,

682
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 4: it's stuck. And now I love it because I literally

683
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: walk into publics and Kroger and people will be like, hey, Freshie.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's like.

685
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Speaker 4: I don't even get call it Jeff anymore.

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Speaker 1: Right, well, Frenchie, my biggest regret in life is I

687
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: took French in high school. In college instead of Spanish,

688
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: thirty three percent of the player speak Spanish, and now

689
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: that Russell Martin is retired, I don't have anyone.

690
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Speaker 4: To speak to but you know, you know what I

691
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: do though. I went back to my high school up

692
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Speaker 4: seven years ago and I told him, I said, because

693
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Speaker 4: I took three years of Spanish. And I said, instead

694
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Speaker 4: of learning how to write in Spanish, you know where

695
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: you're moving stuff, I said, can we learn how to

696
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: speak it? Because that ultimately, you know, that's what you

697
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: want to do, right. I wish I could have communicated

698
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 4: more with my teammates, but all they taught us was writing.

699
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't want to write in Spanish. Care

700
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Speaker 4: about writing?

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Speaker 1: Need to pass a note to them? You want to

702
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Speaker 1: talk to them on the field, right, So I looked

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Speaker 1: up frank core in French, it means sincere heart. I

704
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Speaker 1: mean that that is touching. You were aware of that,

705
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: of course.

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Speaker 4: Right I was. I was so yeah. My dad's dad,

707
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Speaker 4: their whole crew is from Quebec, Man and it was like,

708
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: you know, grew up learning all about it. I just

709
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: never spoke it, right. I was just kind of like,

710
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, y'all know

711
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 4: me enough. I just wanted to play football, baseball, basketball, golf,

712
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: and that's all I wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Frenchie, don't worry, we get a lot of inch Passese,

714
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: which is hello, how are you in Armenian? At the airport?

715
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: We don't speak a lick of it, right Yeah.

716
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to give you the worst French accent

717
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Speaker 1: right now. Okay, jamappelle dumonte American, which means I am hello.

718
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: My name is Tim Kirchen of American. I'm really sure

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Speaker 1: that's what I just said in French, so.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know more French than I'll have it.

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Speaker 1: It is quite impressive. Have you been to Paris before?

722
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Speaker 4: I have not. I have not, And honestly, we wanted

723
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Speaker 4: to go so bad for the Olympics, but with four

724
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: young kids, we just we couldn't squeeze it in. But

725
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 4: we we are. We've already planned it in four years

726
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 4: when it's in LA because we wanted to go to

727
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Speaker 4: Hawaii and take the kids and they'll be a little

728
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Speaker 4: bit older, so we're gonna go out to LA for

729
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Speaker 4: four or five days and then go on to Hawaii after.

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Speaker 1: How great were the Olympics though?

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Speaker 4: Man? It was awesome? You know I love it because

732
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: I was reading Bryce Harper talking about it the other day, Like, dude,

733
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Speaker 4: I got locked into mountain biking for like an hour

734
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Speaker 4: and ten minutes, you know, and I'm like, I'll be honest,

735
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Speaker 4: the only one I couldn't get behind guys is breakdancing.

736
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean I just I just could not

737
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Speaker 4: do it. I mean, I'm into water polo, I'm into

738
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: you know, skate whatever it is, but I just could

739
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Speaker 4: not get into break dance.

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Speaker 3: Frenchie.

741
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Speaker 1: Baseball is not an Olympic sport this year, and break

742
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Speaker 1: dancing was how do we explain that?

743
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: Well, you know, if you had the guess to me,

744
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: you had to peace this small group. I think we

745
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: all know about that these days. And so it was

746
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: like but it was tough, you know, and baseball is

747
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 4: one thing. But you know what pisses me off them?

748
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: And I got two daughters. I coach a softball team.

749
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: Softball should be in the Olympics every four year. Baseball,

750
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: if you look, I would hope it is, because I

751
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 4: think it brings more. But you got the World baseball class.

752
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: These softball girls, Like I think about it, what do

753
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: they have to work towards, you know, and it's like

754
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: they're not going to play in the big leagues. There's

755
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: not this thing. I hope softball can go every four

756
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: years because I think it's a S four people should.

757
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Speaker 1: See right now, Jeff, don't be humble about this. Chipper

758
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: Jones told me what you were in high school football

759
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: and baseball. He said, he just ran everybody over. Is

760
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: that roughly fair to say? You're allowed to say, yes, Well.

761
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Speaker 4: I got a lot of crap because my rookie year,

762
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Speaker 4: I showed up and all the guys on the team

763
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: were like, dude, we saw you every Saturday morning on

764
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Speaker 4: the front of the AJAC from Parkview High School with football,

765
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Speaker 4: and I mean I was lucky, man, I truly I

766
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: tell people this. My junior and senior in football we

767
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: were fifteen and oh, fifteen and oh and in baseball

768
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 4: we were thirty four and one and thirty three and two.

769
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Speaker 4: My junior senior year, you lost.

770
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Speaker 1: Three games and two sports in two years.

771
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and two of them were my fault. I hit

772
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: a guy to walking around burning down Tennessee, and the

773
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 4: other one I dropped the fly ball in the outfield.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the worst?

775
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Speaker 2: Since you only lost three games, you remember those three

776
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Speaker 2: games more than anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what happens. Unfortunately, Frenchy.

778
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Speaker 2: How close were you to play in college football at Clemson?

779
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Speaker 4: Well, you know what's funny is I was actually like

780
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: four days away, because you know, then you had more

781
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: time and the signing bonus kind of stuff happened. But

782
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: for me, you know, my heart was always in baseball, man,

783
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: and I actually got worried because as it got close down,

784
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: I kept telling myself, oh my god, I might be

785
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: on a football field in four days with these grown men.

786
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 4: But you know what happened. And you know why I

787
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: love Tommy Bout and I tell people this all the time.

788
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: I have such respect for him because when I called

789
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: and told them four days before that I was sign

790
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: and he said to me, when he saw what I

791
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 4: was going to make with my signing bonus and the opportunity,

792
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: said I wouldn't let you step foot on this campus.

793
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: He's like, you have your whole life in front of

794
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: you for baseball, go and run with it. And a

795
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: lot of the reason he'd done that was a year before.

796
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 4: If you'll remember the name Roscoe Crosby, sure that drafted.

797
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: He was a two sports star, went to Clemson, and

798
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: Tommy saw just how banged up his shoulders got. And

799
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: I had actually had a chance to talk to Roscoe

800
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: and he's like, look, man, if you have a chance

801
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: to just go play baseball, do it.

802
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: Right, Jeff, tell us for all the kids out there,

803
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: how important it is to play multiple sports when you're

804
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: a kid. Explain that please.

805
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: We will get to my podcast in a while, but

806
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 4: I will tell you this right now. We've had over

807
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: eighty athletes, and every one of them was a multi

808
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: sport athlete. For God's sakes, we're talking about the Olympics.

809
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 4: Misty May trainer, you know who won three gold Olympics

810
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: in volleyball. She went to play soccer at Long Beach State.

811
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 4: I mean, she didn't even go to play volleyball. And

812
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 4: and I just tell people we've had Matt Ryan on

813
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: Matt Ryan was like, I was a shortstop in high

814
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: school and the ability to move around the infield was

815
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 4: everything to me and football, I was able to get

816
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 4: under center and move in the pocket. And I just

817
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 4: I said this, if there's a high school coach out there,

818
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: guys who's telling you you should only play one sport,

819
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 4: he or she should never coach high school. They should

820
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: not be coaching our kids.

821
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the perfect example. As you know, Patrick

822
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes was a really good baseball player. So when you

823
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: see him throw that little side arm pass, he looks

824
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: like the shortstop making the double play exactly. Great basketball player.

825
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: That footwork in the pocket out of the pocket is

826
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: because he could beat anyone off the dribble. So this

827
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: I tell little kids all the time, don't specialize at twelve.

828
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: Play them all.

829
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and my wife's pistol or my wife might well,

830
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: my wife's mad at me a lot. But my daughter,

831
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: my daughter is matt because she's eleven, and she wanted

832
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: to play softball game this fall and I told her, no,

833
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 4: you're either playing tennis or volleyball, like what you want,

834
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: but you're doing another sport. And she's been doing it

835
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: for two weeks now, dude, and she loves it. She

836
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: loves going to practice. And I'm like, look, don't pigeonhole

837
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 4: yourself with one sport a You're gonna burn out, you know.

838
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: And the thing that I always getting, I'm sure y'all

839
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: do two with this. When you talk about people be like, well,

840
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: Bryce Harper just played, you know, baseball, And I'm like,

841
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: Bryce Harper's an anomaly. It's like Tiger Woods. It's like

842
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 4: Serena Williams. There's always going to be the outliers. And

843
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: you know what, I tell these parents, Your kid's not

844
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: Bryce Harper's get over it.

845
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: And we had two weeks ago speaking of great two

846
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: sport athletes in the craziest two sports, Eddie Alvarez. He went,

847
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: he's a triple A baseball player, played in the majors

848
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: a little bit. He won an Olympic medal in baseball

849
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 2: and speed skating.

850
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: Beast skating. I remember that story, and so that's my point.

851
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 4: If you're an athlete, go play them all. And then

852
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: when you get to fifteen, sixteen seventeen, you start to

853
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: find your niche what you want. I'll never forget going

854
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 4: into my senior year. Y'all know how big baseball is

855
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 4: down here with East Cobb in the Atlanta area. And

856
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: two of the coaches came to my dad. They're like,

857
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: you're crazy for letting your son play his senior year football.

858
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: And my dad, basically, you know, he's big. Dave is

859
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 4: a discipliner, and he basically told those guys where the

860
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: sun don't shine, and he told him to take a hike,

861
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: and he said, my son loves football. He's with his

862
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 4: best friends playing a senior year. How would I ever

863
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: tell him not to play that sport.

864
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: God bless your dad on that. All right, Fredchie, you

865
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: great at all sports. You were a really good major

866
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: league player. But how hard? Tell us how hard it

867
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: is to play big league baseball, even when you're exceptionally

868
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: talented like you.

869
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: It's tough, man, And that's why we talk all the time.

870
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: We want our kids to go through failures and go what.

871
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 4: Bryce Harper a couple of weeks ago was in a

872
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 4: what I think one for twenty eight or something like that.

873
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: I read, Yes, the best hitters I've ever seen. I

874
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: played with Chipper and Chiple went oh for nineteen one time,

875
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 4: and I remember I thought he was going to jump

876
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: off a bridge. I'm like, oh my god. It is

877
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 4: so tough when you're out there every day because you

878
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: can hit a ball as hard as you want, and

879
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: in most other sports you get rewarded. In baseball you

880
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 4: might not. It might be right at the center fielder

881
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: and you're out and you walk back to the dugouts.

882
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: So I've always said it, man, I think playing baseball,

883
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: playing softball, these sports, it teaches our kids how to

884
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: be mentally tough. And if it's not even in sports,

885
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: it's in life right as you get older, having a job,

886
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 4: having a family. You've got to be able to work

887
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: through adversity. And that's what I love about sports.

888
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: And Frenchie, you've always played baseball with a smile on

889
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: your face. But tell Jeff the story about the crazy

890
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: fans in right field in Oakland. What did you do?

891
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: You bought up a bunch of hot dogs one day?

892
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: Tell us that so the first night, okay we played

893
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: three night games, or the first night they were wearing

894
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: me out in right field. And I will tell you

895
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: this right now, there is no better fan base than

896
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 4: the one hundred fans in right Field and Oakland. I

897
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 4: mean these people. I keep in touch with them, Tam. Yeah,

898
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 4: I'll text with them sometimes. And I told them, if

899
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: they moved to Vegas and they stay in Vegas, I'll

900
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: be out there every time you get out of Creak

901
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: in the casino. I said, you'll always see me in Vegas.

902
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: But I laughed, because so the first night they ragged me. Man,

903
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 4: they were all over me. So the second night I

904
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: run out there and I wrapped two hundred dollars on

905
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: a baseball and I put a rubber band on it,

906
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: and I said beer and dogs on me and I

907
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 4: threw it in the stands. So that was probably like

908
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: in the second or third inning. In the sixth inning,

909
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: I get a double and they go nuts for me.

910
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 4: I mean it's as you know, the call, sum's not packed,

911
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: so they're going and Cliff Pennington is short stopped. Was like,

912
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: what in the hell? He's like, he cheered that loud

913
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: for us all year. So then we show up to

914
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 4: Wednesday night's game. Dude, there's like six of them that

915
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: had made frankcoor shirts and all this stuff, and it

916
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: just it took on a world of its own, and

917
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 4: it's like, you know what you think about it, Tim,

918
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: It's like, it took me one minute to do this, right,

919
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 4: to put a couple hundred bucks wrap it, and I

920
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: have a relationship with these fans for the rest of

921
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: my life.

922
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: That is incredible. We were talking about that and he said,

923
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: I don't I've never asked about that.

924
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: I said, that's the best story we're gonna get.

925
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is amazing, Frenchie.

926
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: But speaking, you've been on the podcast talked about quite

927
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: a bit, including when we had your longtime teammate John

928
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: Smoltz on and I think.

929
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: You might know where I'm going with this.

930
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: He revisited a golf game between the two of you. Now, listen,

931
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: my dad and I have no right challenging John Smoltz,

932
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: scratch golfer, frenchie scratch golfer here when it comes to

933
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: being a great player. Tell us about the round where

934
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: you almost beat John Smoltz.

935
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: From your perspective, well, I hadn't beaten him yet.

936
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 4: So my background, my dad played in Vanderbilt, So my

937
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 4: dad played college golf. My brother played at Gardner Webb

938
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: at Division two school one now, but so I grew

939
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: up golfing since I was three, and you know, so

940
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: I've played a lot. I've done that. So in two

941
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: thousand and six, in spring training or seven, it was

942
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 4: one of those two years, we go out to actually

943
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: the Rich We played all the time in spring train,

944
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 4: I mean Smoltzy. He took me play with tigers six times.

945
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable, you know. But so we're out there

946
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 4: and I've never beat him straight up match play. I

947
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: think I had and stuff and never straight up. So

948
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: we're at the Rich Carlton there where they play the

949
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: P and C father Son Tournament in Orlando, and I

950
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 4: was one over through seventeen and Smolty was like six

951
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 4: or seven over. And so we get to eighteen and

952
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: before we t off, I started saying, I'm posting these

953
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: all around the clubhouse tomorrow. Everybody knows going, well, eighteen's

954
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 4: a par five. Nothing but water in the hotel to

955
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 4: the left, and I duck cooked my first one in

956
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 4: the water. Right, I'm hitting three off the tea. I

957
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: hit another one in the water. Now five off the tea,

958
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: and Smolty was like, dude, just drop a little bit

959
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: farther up hit wedg just well, you know, I'm hard head,

960
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: and I'm like, no, I'm so I hook it for

961
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 4: a third time water. Now I'm hitting seven off the tea.

962
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: And I ended up making a fourteen. And so the

963
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: worst part was was we get off the green and

964
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 4: Smolty's like, that's of fifteen. I was so pissed off,

965
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: and I started going through every shot and I didn't

966
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 4: I realized at the time he was just messing with me,

967
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: you know that he knew I'd made a fourteen. So

968
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: I ended up losing to him by four shots, and dude,

969
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 4: I was demoralized for like three days in camp.

970
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: He told us what he got back to the clubhouse.

971
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: He didn't tell anybody exactly what happened, but he did

972
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: tell them. If you asked them any question, the answer

973
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: would always be fourteen. Is that correct?

974
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 4: Yes, everything that he did. And the worst part was

975
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 4: was it wasn't like one all the guys that I

976
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: could tell the story throughout the next two days, like

977
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: there'd be random players coming up asking me questions. So

978
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: I had to relive it over and over over. I mean,

979
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: it was so bad, and I you know it was,

980
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 4: but I will tell you this. I finally beat him

981
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: at Seminal Golf Club and this, and this goes to

982
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 4: show you how lucky Smalty is. I didn't eve think

983
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 4: about I beat him. The Atlantic oceans run off eighteen.

984
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: So I run and I jump in the ocean flowed

985
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 4: well way. I didn't realize was I forgot that we

986
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: were playing thirty six that day. More Now, my clothes

987
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 4: are soaking wet, and as you can imagine, closet Ciminal

988
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: Golf Club aren't chiap. So I think I ended up

989
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: paying like eleven hundred bucks to get wardrobe play another eighteen.

990
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 4: What I did beat him?

991
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: That is so great? Tell us what it was like

992
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: playing with Tiger Wood. You are a world class athlete.

993
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: What was it like playing with arguably the greatest player

994
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: of all time.

995
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: I'll tell you. You know, I've never actually told this

996
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: story on anything, and I think, y'all, this will be

997
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 4: the greatest story I tell was. You know, I got

998
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 4: a chance to play with him a couple of times.

999
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: I was twenty two years old, and it was incredible.

1000
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: You know, I grew up my whole life watching this guy.

1001
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 4: And I'll never forget pulling into Alwar at the first

1002
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 4: time in seeing him on the range, and it was

1003
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 4: probably the most surreal moment of my life. I've been

1004
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: lucky enough. I've met President Bush, President Obama. I was

1005
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: not nearly as starstruck as I was when I met

1006
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 4: Tiger Woods for the first time. But what the coolest

1007
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 4: Bobby Cox story is, guys, is you know Bobby during

1008
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 4: spring training loved us to play golf. Love this. We

1009
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 4: were playing the Yankees at one o'clock on a day game,

1010
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 4: and I was twenty two years old. I'd been playing

1011
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: for three months as a starter. I was not going

1012
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: to go up to Bobby and be like, hey, I

1013
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 4: need the day off, right like, but he comes out

1014
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 4: to stretch and goes Smoltze said, you had a chance

1015
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: to play with Tiger today. There was a one fifty

1016
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 4: tea time. And I'm like, Bobby, I'm fine, like I'm

1017
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: playing today. He goes, no, I'll make you a deal.

1018
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 4: He said, after your first about today, run through first

1019
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 4: base and kind of rub your ankle a little bit,

1020
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: like you hurt the ankle. And he's like, in two days,

1021
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: we're going to Braydonton and you know, Tim, you have

1022
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: to have whatever three starters make a road trip. Sure,

1023
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 4: and he's like, I hate Bradenton's infield. I don't want

1024
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: to get any of the guys hurt. So if you

1025
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: go to Bradenton, I'll let you go play with Tiger today.

1026
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: So sure enough, man, We're playing the Yankees twelve thirteen

1027
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: thousand people Orlando. I ground out the first bout. I

1028
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: run the first I start, you know, rubbing my ankle,

1029
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 4: and you know, Bobby, he waddles out there with his

1030
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: fleet and he checks on me. I run inside. I

1031
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 4: literally throw my golf clothes on it in shower. I

1032
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 4: get to the golf course and they're on the first fairway,

1033
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: so I hit my t shot. We end up playing

1034
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: twenty seven holes and about four point thirty my wife

1035
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 4: sends me a little thing that there was an update

1036
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 4: that said Frank Court day to day with a high

1037
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 4: ankletro and I'm out there playing hours with Tiger and

1038
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: so the next the best part is the next day

1039
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: I didn't have to do anything. I came in like

1040
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: ice my ankle and all that, and Bobby let me

1041
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 4: go that day.

1042
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: That's amazing. The most impressive thing about Tiger was what

1043
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: the speed of the club, the height nor the sound.

1044
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 4: What was the way the ball? You know how you

1045
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: always hear the guys talk about, like when Barry Bond

1046
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 4: said the way the ball came off the bat. And

1047
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: for me, dude, I played golf of Stuart Sink all

1048
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: the time. And this was right after Stuart won the

1049
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 4: British Open, if you remember, and he was like number

1050
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: eighteen in the world and he got pissed me because

1051
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: I remember we were playing one day and I was like,

1052
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 4: you know, Tiger's ball just comes off the club so

1053
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 4: much better than yours. And he was mad, but it

1054
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: was amazing, like ice smoked a dry and I remember

1055
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: kind of being like, get that right, and Tiger got

1056
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: up there and blew a thirty yards by me, and

1057
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: you know, the way the ball came off his club

1058
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 4: was incredible.

1059
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: Right, that's amazing.

1060
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: Now, Jeff, I have to talk about pure athletes. So

1061
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 2: this is a brand and a podcast where you're doing

1062
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: amazing work with youth sports, not only for the kids,

1063
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 2: for their parents, for their coaches. We talked a little

1064
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: bit about it at the front. We're going to be

1065
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: at the Little League World Series. Tell us about pure athlete,

1066
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: how this got started, and what it means to you

1067
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: most importantly.

1068
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 4: You know, I'm so jealousy you'll get to go to

1069
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 4: the Little World Series because it's one of the pure

1070
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: things left that you see in our game. And now

1071
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 4: hundreds of dollars traveling all over the place doing all

1072
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 4: these things. And look, I'm not saying it's bad. I

1073
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: mean some people, you know, they do it, they like it.

1074
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: But when I got into youth sports with my kids,

1075
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: I saw so much that I hate it, so much

1076
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: that I dislike. Now, let me tell us right now

1077
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: about my kids. When we sign up for something, we

1078
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 4: work hard at it, we practice, we give our best,

1079
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, it's not life

1080
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 4: or death. At the end of the day of the

1081
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 4: li eleven years old, if my daughter doesn't go three

1082
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 4: for four in a game, it's okay, Like, you know,

1083
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: it's fine. And what we've wanted to bring awareness to,

1084
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, is exactly what y'all are

1085
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 4: doing right there. I want that relationship with my kids

1086
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 4: when I'm done, that we can hang out, that we

1087
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 4: can be buddy buddy, and that, you know, I think

1088
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 4: there's so many parents and their kids relationships are ruined

1089
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: because of how they push them, how they you know,

1090
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: might yell at them, how they and again I'm not

1091
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 4: saying be soft right like you come watch me coach

1092
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 4: my eleven U travel softball team. We practiced hard, we're

1093
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: up tempo. But at the same time, I'm very encouraging.

1094
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: You know, hey, let's have fun. Let's play as hard

1095
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: as we can, and if we win, we win. If

1096
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 4: we lose, we lose, and we teach fundamentals. The fundamentals

1097
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: are not talked about anymore. Nobody practices anymore. It's like,

1098
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 4: let's play as many games as we possibly can. How

1099
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 4: are they supposed to get better? How are they supposed

1100
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 4: to learn how to how to use footwork, how do

1101
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: you use different things? And you know you've talked to

1102
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: enough people. AAU basketball has become the worst. We've had

1103
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: Jamal Crawford on here and he's like, dude, I can't

1104
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 4: stand going to these tournaments now because it's a showcase

1105
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 4: for every single person and so right, we've lost the

1106
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: team dynamic and again the specialization in sports. We had

1107
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: a doctor and Emery guys who is talking about kids

1108
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 4: now at twelve and thirteen, boys and girls getting hurt

1109
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 4: so much more because they're playing one sport. They're using

1110
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 4: their same movement, same body parts, and they never get

1111
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: a break. And it's like, parents don't realize that, and

1112
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 4: I want to tell parents. Mark de Rosa had one

1113
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 4: of the greatest things on our podcast. He said, there

1114
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 4: is a team out there for every kid, every boy

1115
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 4: and girl. There is a team that is meant for them.

1116
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: You just got to go find it. It might not

1117
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 4: be the best team, it might not be the cool team,

1118
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, there is a

1119
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: team for your son or daughter to get better.

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Speaker 1: Right And speaking of parents, sorry for a difficult story here,

1121
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: but a buddy of mine coached a twelve year old

1122
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: travel team, and this buddy of mine pitched in the

1123
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: College World Series and beat Roger Clemens once. So he's

1124
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: really good. But he's fifty five five years old, and

1125
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: he's so tired of the parents yelling at the kids

1126
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: at all that he has all the fathers come take

1127
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: batting practice against him in front of the wives and

1128
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: the children, and of course he strikes them all out.

1129
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: He embarrasses all of them. Two of the dads come

1130
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: up and they are pissed, like, what's that all about?

1131
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: And he said. The coach said, you have no idea

1132
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: how hard this game is to play. Now you know

1133
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: what it's like to be humiliated in front of your family.

1134
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: Stop yelling at your kids, Jeff, How great is that?

1135
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 4: We need more stories like that, We need more parents

1136
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 4: to buy in. You know, man, there was a coach

1137
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 4: and ten you travel ball last year, and I got

1138
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 4: the email because I know a parent that played on

1139
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 4: this team, and this is what's wrong with you sports,

1140
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 4: He said out a after three softball ternaments to the parents.

1141
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 4: I need to see receipts from your kids hitting your

1142
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: daughter's hitting lessons to make sure they're doing what they should.

1143
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 4: But okay, so that's horrible, right, but this is my issue.

1144
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: They played the next week. There were enough girls on

1145
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: the team that stayed there because the parents feel they

1146
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: don't have another way. Where's another team? Where can my

1147
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 4: daughter play? And I said, someone asked me, what if

1148
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 4: that was your daughter? I said, we would be off

1149
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 4: that team in two seconds. Yea. And if we could

1150
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: find a team for three weeks, we would have practiced, played,

1151
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 4: done all this stuff. And like, these kids play all

1152
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: summer too, guys, they play all summer. And I'm like,

1153
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 4: when did you go? My parents July first to July twelfth,

1154
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 4: we went for twelve days every year to the beach

1155
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: and that was my mom's twelve days for me, my brother,

1156
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: and my sister. And she was like, I don't care

1157
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: what tournament's going on. I don't care if the coach

1158
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 4: says you're not going to play when you get back.

1159
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 4: We are going as a family for twelve days to

1160
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: the beach. And I look back and I do that

1161
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 4: now with my kids, and it is the greatest thing

1162
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: we have and we make more good memories.

1163
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Speaker 2: Jeff, we have a guest every week on our podcast,

1164
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: and it's our favorite part. You have been an awesome

1165
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: guest today for you guys bringing guests in. You've mentioned Hipper,

1166
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: you've mentioned all these great athletes. What has been a

1167
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: highlight a story you got from one of your guests

1168
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: that's just awesome. And then we want to hear how

1169
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: we can listen People who listen to us can listen.

1170
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: To you too.

1171
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: You know what, man, We've done some live events with

1172
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins, Mattles and you know, different things. But this

1173
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 4: is one of my stories that I love. Was one

1174
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: of the first ones we had. Jason Campbell, the quarterback

1175
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: that played for twelve years in the NFL at Auburn.

1176
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 4: He did not play football till he was in tenth grade.

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00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 4: He was a pitcher in baseball. Right, he was a

1178
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: pitcher in baseball, and he basically just continued to pitch

1179
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: in his arm was incredible, and one day he started

1180
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 4: throwing the football and next thing you know, he's going

1181
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: to Auburn two years later on a full ride. And

1182
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 4: my point is, you don't half at ten years old

1183
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: go all in on a sport and think that's the

1184
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 4: only way. I don't know if y'all watch the swimming,

1185
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 4: but we had rowdy games on I love Rowdy Gains.

1186
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 4: I thought he did an incredible job broadcasting the swimming

1187
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: during the Olympics. Rowdy Gaines didn't start swimming till he

1188
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 4: was seventeen. And he said it's because when he was fourteen,

1189
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 4: fifteen and sixteen, he got cut from his basketball team,

1190
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 4: his baseball team, and his football team, and his dad

1191
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: basically said, swimming is the only thing you got left. Well,

1192
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: he becomes one of the great all time swimmers of

1193
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 4: our sport of swimming. And you know, I just I

1194
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: love stories like that because you know what, if you

1195
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 4: keep playing enough sports, you will find your Niche does

1196
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: it mean you're going to be a big leaguer, I

1197
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: don't know, but I know this that you play a

1198
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 4: lot of sports, you're going to have a better chance

1199
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Speaker 4: when you go to college and after be to be

1200
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: better in life.

1201
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: Right, speaking of having Chipper on your podcast, how did

1202
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: the technical part of that go? When you at Chipper

1203
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: on tell us? Please?

1204
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 4: Well, we all love Chipper, right, but he's a good

1205
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: old He's a good old redneck from de Lang, Florida, Like,

1206
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 4: let's call what it is. And his wife Taylor is

1207
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 4: the sweetest. But so we do Riverside like y'all do,

1208
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 4: and a lot of people don't realize what riverside. You

1209
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 4: got to go through Google Chrome. I was not the

1210
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: smartest when I started this. I figured out now. But

1211
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 4: we were on the phone with Chipper for twenty five

1212
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 4: minutes and him and his wife were breaming at each

1213
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 4: other trying to get them logged on the computer, and like,

1214
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think at first they realized we

1215
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: could hear, and I'm like, hip, Chipper, I'm hearing everything

1216
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 4: you're saying. And finally he got on and it was

1217
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 4: just so great. But it's like, you know, us athletes,

1218
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 4: let's be honest, majority of athletes are not great with technology.

1219
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 4: So y'all know I have an AOL email. I mean,

1220
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: how many people have. When I did TBS for the

1221
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 4: playoffs first time five years ago, I'll never get we

1222
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: had a zoom and Ron Darling and Brian Anderson was

1223
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 4: like AOL still exists. You know, I'm but but you know,

1224
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 4: you go to Pure Athlete Inc. Dot Com and you

1225
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 4: know what, man, it's it's been great. And like I said,

1226
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 4: I'm so glad you'll get to go do the College

1227
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 4: Rule or the Little League World Series. And I'm so

1228
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 4: glad that ESPN still broadcast the heck Out and the

1229
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 4: Championships on ABC, because again, it's what's good in sports man,

1230
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,959
Speaker 4: seeing a guy give up a home run at twelve

1231
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 4: years old and the kid crying and someone from the

1232
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 4: other team coming to lift them up, because there's not

1233
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 4: enough of that these days. It's now it's look at me,

1234
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 4: look at me the pimp and home runs and all this,

1235
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 4: and I just love that there's still some pure stuff.

1236
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: It is the purest of all the sports. And as

1237
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: Tito Francona once told me, said, Williamsport is where baseball

1238
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: meets the county fair, and that explains that, Jeff, you

1239
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: have to go to Williamsport. It is a bucketless thing.

1240
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 4: I promise, well, you know what, maybe I'll tag along

1241
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 4: next year for a few days of y'all and bring

1242
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 4: my son up because he'll be nine next year, and

1243
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: just have a blast because I love it. I can't

1244
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 4: wait for Sunday Night Baseball when it's going on with

1245
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 4: that game. It's gonna be so much fun.

1246
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: We'll bring pure athlete and is this a great game

1247
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: or what? Together for a podcast joint team broadcast.

1248
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 4: I love that, man, that'll happened. That would be a blast.

1249
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: Pureathlete Inc.

1250
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: Dot Com, congratulations on the podcast, Congratulations on all of

1251
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: the success with that, and I can't wait to see

1252
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: who you guys.

1253
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: Have on the show next.

1254
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: Jeff, Seriously, this was so much fun. Thank you for

1255
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: taking some time for Tim and Jeff Cirksheon.

1256
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, and Tim, I will tell you this, Jeff,

1257
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 4: I know you know, but your dad's a special man.

1258
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: And thank you for all you do for our game.

1259
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, frenchie. I appreciate it. We'll see you soon,

1260
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: and thanks for joining us today.

1261
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: How fun up there, guys?

1262
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Jeffrey Core unbelievable. That was so much fun.

1263
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: He is so hysterically funny, so self deprecating. Was tremendous.

1264
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, pureathlete inc.

1265
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: Dot Com to listen to his podcast and take in

1266
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: his content for the youth sports. It's really incredible. And

1267
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: one name that kept coming up in the interview was

1268
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 2: the legendary Chipper Jones. I mean, incredible athlete, Hall of Famer, but.

1269
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 3: He told us some stories I've never heard before.

1270
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,479
Speaker 1: Right, Well, Chipper is one of the four greatest third

1271
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: Basement ever, one of the four greatest switch Hitters of

1272
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: all time and jeffrankcre worships Chipper Jones in every way.

1273
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: So this is the only story you really need to

1274
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: know about Chipper Jones. And it's important that we mentioned

1275
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: this as we're going to Williams Sport, so all the

1276
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: young kids out there understand who Chipper Jones was. So

1277
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: the Braves were trying to figure out who they're gonna

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Speaker 1: pick number one overall in the draft, Todd Van Poppel

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Speaker 1: or Chipper Jones. So they have a pre draft meeting

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Speaker 1: with Chipper Jones to see what they're getting into here.

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Speaker 1: So the meeting with Chipper Jones, which includes how much

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Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you, lasts like thirty minutes, and Chipper

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Speaker 1: doesn't have an agent. His dad is his agent. So

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Speaker 1: after thirty minutes, the Braves say, here, it's what we'll

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Speaker 1: pay you, and Chipper goes, all right, I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: His dad takes him upstairs and says, Chipper, you can't

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Speaker 1: accept that thirty minutes out of the gate. You have

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Speaker 1: to give this a little bit more thought. And Chipper

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Speaker 1: Jones looks at his father and he goes, Dad, I

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Speaker 1: want to be the overall number one pick, and I

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Speaker 1: want to start playing now, And he said, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make so much money playing this game that I

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Speaker 1: don't need to get all of it here in my

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Speaker 1: first contract. I'm I want them to take me so

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Speaker 1: I can get my career started to me. That showed

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Speaker 1: a confidence Chipper Jones had in himself. And this is

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Speaker 1: for all you young people out there, follow that lead,

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Speaker 1: have a little faith in yourself.

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Speaker 2: Little League World Series. We're going to be coming to

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