1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February nineteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: And now a guy who would have taken home gold 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for that French judge j. 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Chack. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 3: It's always the French judge. Welcome man, it is Jaguars 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: Happy Hour. We are back baby, after the hiatus following 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: the postseason run. We're back each week each Thursday, four 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: o'clock here on tentinex LAM with Jaguars Happy Hour. And 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: we are at the Honday studios at the Miller Electric Center. 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: Test drive a Neue Hunday today only at your local 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: Hondai dealer. Here's what's coming up on the show today. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: A franchise tag window is open, but will the Jaguars 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: use it. We'll get into that. Scouting combine is next 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: week in Indianapolis. A little different feel for the Jaguars 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: this year. They won't have leadership there. We'll get into 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: that coming up a little bit. Free agent see the 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: beginning March eleventh. We'll go through some of the players 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: that are pending free agents for the Jaguars. J P. 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: Shadwick with you. Jeff Logoman out this week. He'll be 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: back with us on a regular basis Kai Nannie Steven steps. 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: In pinch hitting today, you know what. 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: And it's if we're ranking pinch hitters, you're right there 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: at the top. 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. So like I'm like the. 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: First, Oh, you're a starter, extra, you're a starter. Okay, 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: I mean, let's begin with that. 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Like a role player, like I'm like la Quinn Allen 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: coming into pass blocks and scream at everybody, like I 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: feel like I have a very specific team more. 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: You have some aggression, so you're saying. 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I play the role I have to play, So. 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: Do what you gotta do. 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: Very exciting. 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: That was a break and you guys had jag z 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: Am this week. 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: And we were back on Tuesday. But yeah, so we've 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: all been off for about a month ish, which I 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: think sometimes is nice to just have a little calm down. 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: But now that it's off season, full swing again is 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: going to be. We're right back in things. It's a 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: little bit different this year. Obviously, we don't have coaching 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: changes for time in a while. So for most of 43 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: the years I've been here, we've had either new coordinators 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: or a coaching search. Obviously head coach and everything else 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: last year, so it's the first time. It's been calm 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, so it's been nice. 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, no coaching changes. The coordinators didn't get the 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: head coaching gigs they were interviewing for the quarterback is 49 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: not a question mark anymore. There's no first round draft pick. 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of weird, kind of different 51 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: different for Jags fan. You made Jaguar things this offseason. 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's nice to see other people all the coaching. 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: There's ten other new head coaches across the NFL right 54 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: now and a bajillion different coordinators. So for the Jaguars 55 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: not only to have the same head coach and bring 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: back both coordinators, that's pretty great. 57 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it has been because of that. The 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: season the Jaguars had thirteen and four. Of course going 59 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 3: to the playoffs, they had some accolades and near wins 60 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: in the postseason end of season awards ceremonies, the NFL honors. 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: I mean, Liam Cohen was like three votes away from 62 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: Coach of the Year in the NFL this year. 63 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: Coach of the Year was one of those things where 64 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: you look at the cannon and almost anybody that won 65 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: was going to be qualified in some way because every 66 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: single I think most of them were either their first 67 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: year or maybe second year with their team, and you 68 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: know what Vrabel was able to do. Look at Ben Johnson, 69 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen their first years with their new teams, like 70 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: to make such big switches and not that I felt 71 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: like ownership of teams were ever very patient. But now 72 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: seeing all this success in the first year for some 73 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: of these head coaches, I feel like a lot of 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: the coaching changes we saw this year, they're saying, hey, 75 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: I want that, and I want it in one year. 76 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: So we'll see how it all plays out. But I 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: certainly feel like everybody in Jacksonville feels very fortunate that 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: we have Liam Cohen. He's obviously our coach of the Year. 79 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, and it's supposed to be a 80 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: regular season award too, so you don't really know if 81 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: you know. Obviously the Patriots make a playoff run, I 82 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: feel like maybe that has little something to do with it, 83 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: but so it's be a regular season award. I felt 84 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: like anybody that won it was going to be well 85 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: worth when. 86 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: The voting happens on ends the day after the regular 87 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: season though, so in theory, the playoff run shouldn't have 88 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: anything to do with it, but I like the fact that, 89 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: you know what people's eyes are going to open to 90 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: what Liam Cohen and this Jaguars team is all about, 91 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: because it does feel like it's sustainable for the future 92 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: moving in. It was kind of fun. That was everybody's 93 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: on vacation, right, so kind of away from it, but 94 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: occasionally a day or two you'd kind of watch it 95 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: during the week leading up to the Super Bowl, radio 96 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: Row stuff, and all of a sudden on that Thursday, 97 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: there goes Liam Cohen on Radio Row and he's on 98 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: the McAfee show, and he's doing all these things, and 99 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: that's fun to see when the league starting to realize 100 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: what's going on here. 101 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the last two months, when they got 102 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: eight wins in a row to kind of cap off 103 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: the regular season, it felt like it was becoming a 104 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: little more national. You get the big win over the Broncos, 105 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: and it felt like, no, not many people saw it 106 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: because it wasn't on national TV per se, but you know, 107 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: kind of getting that recognition, getting a big win, and 108 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: the way they finished the season, it felt like was 109 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: a testament to all of that coming together at the 110 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: right time. And I felt like they're getting more recognition 111 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: as things went along. Trevor Lawrence too, just the way 112 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: he played the last two months or so of the season, 113 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: just seeing his like he was in the MVP running. 114 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: But I felt like a lot of it was how 115 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: he was playing down the stretch. And sometimes it's hard 116 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: to kind of get over the hump when it's not 117 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: a full season that people have been talking about you, 118 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: so that can be tough. But just the way he 119 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: was trending. Have to be happy and excited to see 120 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: what the future is going to be. 121 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: I mean, he finished fifth in MVP voting. I don't 122 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: know if a Jaguars finished that high before. 123 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, And and I mean this was halfway through the 124 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: season and we were like the offense doesn't even work. 125 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: Right right right, they can't line up right, everybody kidd 126 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: They couldn't get in no illegal shifts all over the place. 127 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: That was problematic. It feels like a lifetime ago, it 128 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: really does. It feels like those were It almost feels 129 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: like there's two separate seasons, like pre bye week, bye 130 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: week and posts or post Texans game, even like just 131 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: it was night and day and. 132 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: Then sixteen it was a big reason why, and they 133 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: made it. They had a couple of changes, obviously, Travis 134 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: Hunter's injury unfortunately as it was brought in an addition 135 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: wide receiver that calmed some things down, and from that 136 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: point forward the offense looked a whole lot different than 137 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: the defense. Made some changes after the fact as well, 138 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: and really started to find traction after the break. 139 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: It's something that you feel good about going to the 140 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: off season, where feeling like you're going to bring back 141 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: the same coaching staff that in my opinion, overachieved and 142 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: what you expected your first year. I don't think any 143 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: of us expected a record like that in your first season, 144 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: first coaching staff, first year with this coaching staff, to 145 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: come in win the division thirteen to four, higher than 146 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: I thought. At least I think we talked maybe ten 147 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: wins would be nice, something like that. So to get 148 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: thirteen and four and do what they did, that to 149 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: me exceeded my expectations. And then to now bring everybody 150 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: back get a little more comfortable this second year. It's 151 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: not somewhere new, trying to figure out where the bathroom is, 152 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: how to get to the kitchen in the gym and 153 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: all this. They know everything is they're settled and to 154 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 2: kind of really get into the meat of it. And 155 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: also this is their first full off seat together, right 156 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: because they were still, you know, just getting a coach 157 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: around this time last year, still trying to figure out 158 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: who their GM was gonna be. So this will be 159 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: their first full year together. 160 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to seeing what they do with all 161 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: the business ahead on Tintin, xcel am, Jaguars dot com 162 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: and Jaguars YouTube is Jaguars Happy Hour Back from the 163 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: Hiatus JP Shadwick, Kayani Stevens. Glad you're with us, and 164 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 3: the business of the offseason is underway. The franchise tag 165 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: window is open. It is open through March third. If 166 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: you want a franchise or transition tag a player. It's 167 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: got a feeling that's probably not gonna happen around here. 168 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: Free agency begins when the league year opens on March 169 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: eleventh at four o'clock Eastern time, and there's a two 170 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: day window leading into that for negotiation period, and of 171 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: course at four o'clock that I believe it's a Wednesday, 172 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: March eleventh is when the league year begins, and that's 173 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: really kind of been one of the big topics this 174 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: offseason for Jaguars, folks is who will be back? Most 175 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: notable names Travis etn Junior, the running back and linebacker 176 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd are on that list of players that are 177 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: pending free agents, and you know, it doesn't feel like 178 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: at this moment that they could get away with both 179 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: of them not coming back and finding role for and 180 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: they're both really good players. Obviously fantastic seasons a year 181 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: ago for Devin Lloyd on defense, the numbers he put up. 182 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: But if you're going to resign a guy like that, 183 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: that is as sending in theory, the number is going 184 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: to be pretty high. Like the franchise tag for linebacker 185 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: is like twenty four nine. 186 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: And that's not even an option, Like you can't tag him, 187 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: that's not something. 188 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: And for a running back it's fourteen million. 189 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: Dollars, right, And I mean, you know, sometimes people use 190 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: that as a way to negotiate and kind of use 191 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: that to get a maybe longer term deal. I know 192 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: Jaguars don't use it always, but I think the last 193 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: couple times I can remember was Josh Heinz Allen, right, 194 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: and then Evan Ingram. I think they did before they 195 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: had that deal extended with him. So that's how some 196 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: franch tries to use it and some people don't really 197 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: utilize it that much. Obviously, we don't know what James 198 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: Gladstone's going to do. Nothing's been done yet, but I 199 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: think it's just it's and it's tough because those are, 200 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, two positions where running backs kind of tricky. 201 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: It's not necessarily necessarily a position anybody's going to give 202 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: a ton of money to in free agency. But when 203 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: you look at what he's contributed, Travis TN's contributed to 204 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: this offense. When we were talking about and not playing 205 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: that well in the earlier part of the season, Travis 206 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: YTN was the only thing that was working at that 207 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: point in the offense. And also just I think the 208 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: smarts that he has and the way he picked up 209 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: Liam's system. Not everybody can do that, and I think 210 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: that would be I guess if there's a plan I 211 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: would understand moving on from Travis TN. I can understand 212 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: where that might be something they would do. I don't 213 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 2: know what that plan is going to be, but I 214 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: think he definitely will leave a hole in the offense 215 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: that they're going to need to address. 216 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the the plan would be draft one. Right, 217 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: that's the cheaper option. 218 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: But they don't have a lot of top picks because 219 00:09:59,280 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: if you're. 220 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: Going to if you're going to get a free agent 221 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: running back, well you got one right here. It's leaving 222 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: the building. Sure, but we tread of sorts. 223 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: But if you you know, the draft capital is lower 224 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: and lower rounds this year, right, we don't have a 225 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: first round draft pick, So where are you going to draft? 226 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: What round are you gonna draft? When they drafted a 227 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: couple last year, But then you're drafting to a point 228 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: where and maybe this is how Liam Cohen wants to operate. 229 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: He wants to have a couple running backs. He doesn't 230 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: want to just have one guy. So maybe that's how 231 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: they're going to operate. They've got Lequin Allen, who's a 232 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: great pass blocker. They've got Baseial Tutin who they feel 233 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: like in short distances in certain situations, he's really effective. 234 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: So maybe they'll find one other guy that they feel 235 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: has really great vision or is able to bounce outside 236 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: and kind of make the corner, and then they'll have 237 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: three different guys that all serve a different purpose. But 238 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what their focus is going to be obviously, 239 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 2: they like to kind of keep it close to the 240 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: vest and then surprise us with that kind of stuff. 241 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: So I'm a big Travesy Dan fan, so I would 242 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: love to see him back, but I don't know if 243 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: we are going to get much inside that into that 244 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: until closer to free agency. 245 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite players to go talk to 246 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: during an open locker. 247 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: Room, absolutely and you always getting an honest answer out 248 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: of him one. 249 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: Hundred percent, and that if he's not back around that 250 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: part of him and what he means in that locker 251 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: room overall, not just when media is in there, certainly 252 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: that will be missed. Devin Lloyd, another one of those 253 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: guys that is fantastic to be around, had an incredible 254 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: breakout season statistically, and if he's not back, there's gonna 255 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: be a lot of head scratching from some Jags fans 256 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: about it. But I think this is the one where 257 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: the true business of the game is going to get 258 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: this one. He's gonna have to move on. 259 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: I think I think he had such a tremendous season 260 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: that will work against the Jaguars negotiations with him, because 261 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: someone is going to give him a lot of money rightfully, 262 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: so based off last season, what they saw from him, 263 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: what they think maybe his future will be, and I 264 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: far be it. For me, that's fully a business decision. 265 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: He should go wherever he wants to be and gets 266 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: the most money. And I think there's going to be 267 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people up after him for that because 268 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a ton of his skills necessarily 269 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: in the free agency market, and I think he will definitely. 270 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: It might be similar to something we saw, like with 271 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley when he ended up going to the Titans 272 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: and he saw the money that was attached to that, 273 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: you can't be mad at for taking that exactly. So 274 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: I think that's I think when we hear the number, 275 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: the final number for Devin Lloyd, I think we'll all 276 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, okay, I get it. 277 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy had five picks, so he was 278 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: the second team All Pro this year, seven and he 279 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: was all over the field all these you know. 280 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: Taxle force and stumbles. 281 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: You know, it was the breakout play in the Monday 282 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: night game, and that's where. 283 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: People will remember when you have those primetime moments like 284 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: that's going to see in somebody's mind, and there's a 285 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: lot of new coaching staffs as well that are trying 286 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: to build a roster and maybe looking at somebody like 287 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: that and saying, hey, I can build around that, that 288 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: kind of athleticism that he showcases and when put in 289 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: the right position, he can be super disruptive in a game. 290 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: So I can see outside sources definitely wanting to have 291 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: that on their team. 292 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: A bunch of other guys are pending free agents, including 293 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: Diami Brown that was a one year deal and of 294 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: course second half of the season really wasn't out there. 295 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: On offense, it's a lot of manual Agba, same thing statistically, 296 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: just didn't have a lot going on. Andrew Winger safety 297 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: has been around for seven years, and that'll be one. 298 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: He's a fan favorite. He is something to watch. 299 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: We have to remember and remind ourselves that this regime, 300 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: these are not necessarily players from their regime, right, So 301 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: they're going to want to get their players in and 302 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: they made some splashes and free agency and they had 303 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: their first draft class, but they're going to continue that process. 304 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: And I think on defense we're going to see a 305 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: lot of changes and just getting in different kinds of 306 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: whether it's through the draft or maybe some lesser names 307 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: in free agency that I don't think is gonna be 308 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: huge splashes, but to address different parts of and the 309 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: secondary just got so banged up last year. I think 310 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: a lot of it is going to be Caleb Bransaw 311 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: we never even got to see right, So there's and 312 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter obviously, who's going to be working his way 313 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: back in. So a lot of the secondary I think 314 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: will look different. 315 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: Greg Newsom's on the list as a pending free agent. 316 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: They traded a couple of picks to get him as 317 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: a kind of a test run towards the end of 318 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: the season, and I don't know if that necessarily worked out. 319 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: Tim Patrick veteran wide receiver. Austin Johnson defensive lineman. You 320 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: can never have enough big guys, but he's in ten 321 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: years in to the league. Dennis Gardak a guy who's 322 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: a special team's ace and then contributed second half of 323 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: the season on defense and the pass rush, and they 324 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: worked him out in a lot of different spots, and 325 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: he's got that mentality you just kind of want around 326 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: and he's overcome so much in his career. How much 327 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: does he have left in his tank is a big 328 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: question too. 329 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if the numbers right, gard act someone 330 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: they definitely want to bring back. We talk about special teams, 331 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: but also just the energy and kind of the way 332 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: they used him as an extra pass rush on certain 333 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: points and different ways that Camp was using him on 334 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the football. So I think that's 335 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: someone if the number is right, they'll try to bring back. 336 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: Is monterak Brown a free agent, Yes, I would like 337 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: to see him back if the number is right. For 338 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: that as well. I just feel like Montek's one of 339 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: those people that you have to be relentless as a corner, 340 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: and he's he's maybe not the biggest guy, and maybe 341 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: he gets beat on one play, but it never ends. 342 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: And he'll also come out of nowhere and out of 343 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: ball down that you're like, oh, I thought he got 344 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: beat on that. So just relentless in that sense. And 345 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: the wide receivers will tell you he's one of the 346 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: hardest guys to go up against in practice. So you 347 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: can get him on Terek back at a good number, 348 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: I think that would be great. But otherwise I do 349 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: I do want to see some of the younger guys. 350 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: I want to see Ransa out there. I want to 351 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: see Travis Hunter full time out there when he's healthy. 352 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: Those are those are those are what I'm looking for 353 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: on defense in terms of the secondary. 354 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: Speaking of Travis Hunter, you'll return and dig into what 355 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: could be some of the future plans for the corner 356 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: slash receiver. 357 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: Breaking news is it breaking? I think we might have 358 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: known a while ago, but apparently it's new news. 359 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: We'll get into that when we come back on Tention 360 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: x l AM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. We're 361 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: off and running back at it on Jaguars Happy Hour. 362 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, our first show 363 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: back after the offseason Hiatus, j P. Shadwick, Kay, Nannie Stevens, 364 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: Jeff Argumen will be with us as the weeks move 365 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: ahead in this off season. If you're ready for another 366 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: historic season at the Bank, it's time to lock in 367 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: your seats for twenty twenty six. 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You know not being around here for about 373 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: a month, come back downtown for the first time in 374 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: a while, and it is I mean, they are working 375 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: on the stadium different. 376 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: You see a different section of seats flying by every day. 377 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: I know people on Twitter been talking about and seeing 378 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: the photos. They're they're moving, They're they're doing that construction 379 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: for sure. 380 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: They cut down one of the light standards today, like 381 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: where is you're going to jump. 382 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: From where we are in the Miller Electric Center. We 383 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: can kind of see the side of the stadium and 384 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: there's like a giant hole you can see through it now. 385 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, they're working on it. 386 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: They're and this all the you know they had the 387 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: Grand Staircase opening line season. I remember that. Yeah, Well 388 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: now that's starting to expand all the way around and 389 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: so the footprint is growing and it's fun to see. 390 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: The business office, I believe is about to open on 391 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: the river. I think they're going to have some unveiling 392 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: things later in the month or early next month. 393 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: But we didn't get We didn't get invited. Though we 394 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: don't have desks over there. We are not on that list. 395 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: No, we didn't make the list. 396 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: We didn't make the cut. It looks very nice though. 397 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what it ends up looking. 398 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: So there's progress there. The hotel's coming along all that. 399 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: So it's good to see down here, absolutely seeing it 400 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: in motion. And I know we want people to know 401 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: that there's still we're still one more season here. There'll 402 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: be lower the upper bowl will be gone, so lower attendance, 403 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: which is why if you have your tickets you want 404 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: to get them walked in early because it'll be lower. 405 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: Capacity, probably a little less than forty I think. 406 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, lower capacity for sure, So you want to get 407 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: there and make sure you're here. And Jagger's football is 408 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: fun again, so you want to be in the house 409 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: for it for sure. 410 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: This will be an intimate environment, yes. 411 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: A little, a little small cozy. 412 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. They hell on Earth. For the opponents, well, 413 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: it's going to be warm about that. Yeah, yeah, I 414 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: love that of course. And then they have not announced 415 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: yet in twenty twenty seven, where there were reports of Orlando, 416 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: but there's still some final things to have to happen 417 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: before the announcement officially comes in twenty twenty seven. That's 418 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: down the road just a little bit. We're on tenen 419 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: Xlamjaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick, Knhaney Stevens 420 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. One guy that is slated to 421 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: be back in the mix is Travis Hunter, cornerback, wide receiver. 422 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: Had the knee injury in practice on the practice field 423 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: coming out of the bye week, non contact play, and 424 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: from all accounts, he's still on track to be back 425 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: and could be back I think towards the end of 426 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 3: the offseason program last I heard. But I don't think 427 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: there'll be any rush to force him out there in 428 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: any kind of situation where there would be a question mark, right, 429 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: So probably getting back, working back as much as they can, 430 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: and then once training camp hits, in theory, he should 431 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: be full go. And there was this support last week 432 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: that I think it was. 433 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: NFL Network, Yeah, Karon wolf An NFL Network we love, 434 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: and I think he was just kind of talking about 435 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: in general. He covers the NFC South a lot, but 436 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: the league as a whole. So I don't know if 437 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 2: he was people were running with a little bit as 438 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: if it was new news, but I think hey, coach 439 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen had talked at the end of the season 440 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: and kind of alluded to the fact that you know, 441 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: kind of by necessity the defensive side of the football. 442 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: He's going to be needed there most of the time. 443 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: The report to air Quotes report was that he's going 444 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: to play defense full time and have some packages on offense, right, 445 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 3: which is kind of what they said. James Gladstone literally 446 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: said this in the press conference two days after the season. 447 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: Here's the quote. Say, it's fair to say is rehab 448 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: processes going and expected he's hitting it hard, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. 449 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: We still expecting to play both sides of the ball. Obviously, 450 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: you can take a peek at expiring contracts on our 451 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: rostro on which side of the ball has more at 452 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: this point walking in the offseason. Corner as a position, 453 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: we have a few guys who are on expiring contracts. 454 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: By default, you can expect her to be a higher 455 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: emphasis on his placement. So right there, you go, corner. 456 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: And you know they added Jacobe Myers at the trade 457 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: deadline this year and at what we see from Parker Washington, 458 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: and there's not a gluttony of wide receivers, but there's 459 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: talent there, right, And I think what is fair to 460 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: say is Travis Hunter is naturally very gifted at cornerback. 461 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like that takes a ton from him 462 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: to learn that position game to game, and I think 463 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: for him to go out there and he never gets tired, 464 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: it seems so for him to go out there and 465 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: just play fully on defense and then you know, be 466 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: involved game by game. Is I think what it'll end 467 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: up looking like, whether that he's needed more on certain games. 468 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: I think we'll see more or less from him depending 469 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: who they're playing and what style of play of the 470 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: defense they're going up against. Is what the offense offensive 471 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: availability is going to look like for him, and we 472 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: know we can make special plays. And I know people 473 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: are like, oh, this isn't what I'm expecting. You know, 474 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: fantasy owners are probably mad, which fair, but I don't 475 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: think this is that drastically different from what we expected 476 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: and we I mean. 477 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, there were some issues early in the 478 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 3: season with him lining up right. I mean, they had 479 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: all the illegal shifts and this is not an easy offense. 480 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: And you have to remember he's a rookie or he'll 481 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: be the second year. But you got to earn your 482 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: time on the field. If you can't line up right, 483 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: if you don't know where you're supposed to be. You're 484 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: not going to be out there at Liam Cohen offense. 485 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: And we saw, of course in London Jags were getting 486 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: blown out at halftime, but then the second half he 487 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: has the breakout second half and over one hundred yards 488 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: and a touchdown for the first time in the league 489 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 3: going into the bye week, And there was the field 490 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: going into that week after the bye that they were 491 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: going to put a little more emphasis on offense because 492 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: of that momentum they felt was building there until the 493 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: knee injury. So yeah, but you saw what happened in 494 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: the playoff game, like they needed corner, their top two 495 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: corners were not on the field. Jordan Lewis was out 496 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 3: and Travis Hunter was not on the field either, and 497 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: that was a problem. 498 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the deep ball, they got gouged with 499 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: explosive plays. That's why they lost the football game. So 500 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: he's very much needed at that role. And you know, 501 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: it feels bad about that Bengals game because I feel 502 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: like that early on a season, in Week two, that 503 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: play that should have ended the game and won it 504 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: for the Jaguars would have been such a marquee moment 505 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 2: for him and people would have realized how dominant he 506 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: can be as a cornerback, and I know we're not 507 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: used to corners being as effective just the way that stylistically, 508 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: the way they play and favor the offense. Now you know, 509 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: you can't be as physical and you don't have you know, 510 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: Darrell reevas those kinds of style of cornerbacks anymore. But 511 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: he's so athletic and he can really take people out 512 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: out of a game, which we haven't We don't always see, 513 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: so maybe that's why there'sn't as much appreciation for it. 514 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 2: I know it's not as sexy of a position as 515 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: wide receivers, not touchdowns, stuff like that. So obviously people 516 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: want to see more on offense, and he can make 517 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: great plays on offense, and I don't think this is 518 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: going to limit that. I think they're still gonna, you know, 519 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: if he's if they're cooking on offense, it's working. I 520 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: do not think Liam Collen's gonna be like, oh, I 521 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: only said you could play five plays on offense today, 522 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: Like that's not gonna happen. That's not realistic. So he 523 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: very much rides the wave, but until he gets tired 524 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: to the point where he can't be doing both positions, 525 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: which we've not seen as of yet. Anytime they've used him, 526 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: he's been fine. They're gonna use him as much as 527 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: they can, and in different ways every week. 528 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: I think with him in space with the ball in 529 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: his hands, like when they flip it out fast wide 530 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: and he's got three, four or five yards in front 531 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: of him between the defender's, that's what it's fun, because 532 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's shaking guys off and cutting 533 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 3: left and right, and you know he's scorming for fifteen. 534 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: That's that was the Travis Hunter that you're like, Wow, okay, 535 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: this makes a lot of sense why they would draft 536 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: a guy this high. 537 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: It's also fun to see him go up and get 538 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: it too sometimes and in that Chiefs game, the one 539 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: where he goes up and over like two different defenders, like, 540 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: that's pretty cool too, as those unique athletic gifts that 541 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: not everybody has, which among other athletes is cool to 542 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: see because he's even more athletic than your average athlete. 543 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: So for him to be able to showcase that just 544 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: a little tiny bit in what you know, eight or 545 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: nine games is hopefully more to come. And I think 546 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: just getting used to the NFL and getting used to 547 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen's offense a second year. He's still in the 548 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: building every day, every week, every time the players were here. 549 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: Wasn't like he just never came in. So I imagine 550 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: he's still working, going through playbook, kind of understanding the 551 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: offense and stilling can't get better with time. 552 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: Last year for him, forty five targets, twenty eight catches, 553 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: just under three hundred yards, the touchdown in his last 554 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: game where he went eight for one oh one at 555 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 3: Wimbley and the losing result against the Rams. Fifteen tackles 556 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: on defense, three passes defensed, and we'll see what happens 557 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: as this offseason continues for Travis Hunter. The offseason continues 558 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: next week with the NFL Scouting Combine. 559 00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: JP Shatrick will be there, Yes, nobody else though, JP representative. 560 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: We're back in a moment. It is a different feeling 561 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: combine for the Jaguars next week and Andy, it's Jaguars 562 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: Happy Hour, Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Ka, 563 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: Nani Stevens, Jeff Logwan back with us next week. Jaguars 564 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: Happy Hour from the Hyundai Studios Run ten to excel 565 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: am Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. The off season 566 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: is upon us. Playoffs are over Super Bowls in the 567 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: rear view, and that means it is pre draft season. 568 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: It is. It's a little less exciting this year, though, because. 569 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: It's always exciting. What are you talking? 570 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. We don't have first 571 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: round draft pick and the new front office doesn't go 572 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: to the Combine. So there's certain things that you know, 573 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: are normally like the little milestone steps of the off season, 574 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: we're not necessarily gonna hit in the same way this year. 575 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: Correct. All that is correct. Next week is the Combine, 576 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 3: no Liam Cohen, no James Gladstone, usually the coaching GM 577 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: where the teams go and have a press conference and 578 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: they do the radio row circuit at the Combine and 579 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 3: kind of set the tone for the off season ahead. 580 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 3: Not sure if they're going to have availability, you know otherwise, 581 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 3: which it's possible, but they're not going to be an Indianapolis, 582 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 3: which means we're not officially covering it in Indianapolis this year. 583 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: And it's just a different field as we've been doing 584 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: it pretty much every year since twenty thirteen. I think 585 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: we've gone to cover it, and that's back when back 586 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: in the old days, there were only a couple teams 587 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 3: with staffs that went to cover it, and that's changed 588 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: just now become this massive offseason media event. I think 589 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: they had a thousand credential media. Every person who has 590 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: a website anywhere close to draft related can get credentialed 591 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: for this thing, and it turns into a lot of 592 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, especially later in the week when 593 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 3: the workhouts and things start happening and some of the 594 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: prospects coming through the media center. So it's it's an 595 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: interesting one because you know, there's not really that presence 596 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: this year in Indianapolis and then right after that not 597 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: far away from free agency, but the combine stuff that 598 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: the approach is unique. I mean, that's what LA did 599 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: right the rams, right, which is not. 600 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: Going where our head coach and GM came from. Right, 601 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: They're going to take some from that, for sure. 602 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 3: Philosophy is, hey, we're going to watch actual football and 603 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: see if the guy can play instead of worrying about 604 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: the three cone drill. 605 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: Like the Ando Olympics. Yes, yeah, so there's merit to it. 606 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: I totally get it. But you can get all the 607 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: numbers and stats, and also putting trust in your scouting staff, 608 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: right because I think a lot of this is your 609 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: scouts probably know some of these guys better than you 610 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: do if you're higher up in the front office, and 611 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: trusting your guys and their assessments. And I think they 612 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: go about They've talked a little bit about how they 613 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: go about meeting with some of the prospects, and you know, 614 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: you can have visits, you can kind of go and 615 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: meet with them at their schools when they have their 616 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: own pro days. They go about it different ways to 617 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: kind of get to where they need to be. But 618 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: I think what is interesting about it is, as I 619 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: noticed is I feel like they put a lot of 620 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: trust in their teams built around them, and the reports 621 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: that they're getting from those guys that know them. 622 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 3: Best makes sense. 623 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the job. You have to trust, 624 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: you have to delegate. You can't do everything yourself. I mean, 625 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: if there was another high pick they went last year, 626 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: I know they were all new then, so they're still 627 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: trying to. 628 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 3: Like the first second day, Jam. 629 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: Had his press conference and flew there like that was 630 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: that was that week, so they were there then obviously 631 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: I had a higher picks. It's a little bit different 632 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: because you're meeting with, you know, a certain set of guys. 633 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: You can do interviews and kind of meet with them 634 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: that way, so that's a little bit different. They don't 635 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: have that top of the pick, so it's going to 636 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: be a little more grassroots of an effort because they're 637 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: looking at later around guys. 638 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's next week in Indianapolis. I'll be there. 639 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: I'll have a report on Jags. What's jag Zam? Is 640 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: the show name Tuesday morning? 641 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: Yes, show, I have. 642 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: Almost said JAG's HQ, which doesn't exist in the offseason, 643 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: jag Zam. So I'll be up there Tuesday and then 644 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: do the podcast Wednesday. Bucky and I from Indianapolis's very good. 645 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: So we will be represented, just not the usual, not 646 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: the full not the full crew. I mean, you guys 647 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: are like the mayors of Indianapolis. 648 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: No, Bucky Brooks on the other hand, yes, and John Oser. 649 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: It's the house that Osher built build that. 650 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if Oser is going though I think 651 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: he might. He didn't make the cut either. 652 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: No, all right, it's what it is, so looking forward 653 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: to that next week speaking of, you know, no changes 654 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: in the coaching staff. I mean there were close calls, 655 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: like Grant Kidinski and Anthony Campanelli each had interviews the 656 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: soft season. I think Dsky was really daring close to 657 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 3: getting the Browns job. 658 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the Browns job, and I'm. 659 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: Not it's one of thirty two. 660 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm not talking it down. I'm just saying, if you're 661 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: getting a head coaching job, you want to be put 662 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: in a situation where you feel you're going to be successful. 663 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: I would imagine, and I don't know as a offensive 664 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: minded guy going in there with what that quarterback situation 665 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: looks like. That's over the excise. He's going to have 666 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: his pick the next however many years in a row, 667 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: whether it's next year, if he takes one or whatever. 668 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: He's not going to be without option. And I think 669 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: as young as he is, this is his first year 670 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: as a coordinator as well, hasn't had play calling duties yet. 671 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: I don't think it was a poor idea for him 672 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, go interview, see what it 673 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: was going to look like, but then eventually come back 674 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: and have another year under his belt before he ends 675 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: up somewhere else, and I think that was smart on 676 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: his part. Anthony Campanile I think will be an amazing 677 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: head coach whenever that time comes. He's a great leader 678 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: of people. I think he can really read a room. 679 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: Players want to play for him. So wherever he ends 680 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: up as a head coach, I think he'll be very successful. 681 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: And again, I think that was just about finding the 682 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: right fit for him as well. 683 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he had three different interviews Campanelli at 684 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: the end of the day, which is great for him 685 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: and both those guys to have that experience of going 686 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: through at one time. But it's great for the Jaguars 687 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: that they're both back. And I'm sure Liam Cohen during 688 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: that time frame. I'm not sure how much time actually 689 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: Liam got away because you have to have a plan 690 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: just in case one of these guys gets hired of 691 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: how are you going. 692 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: To backfiel these yeah and so, And I think what 693 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: was cool about how Liam built his staff is it 694 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: wasn't just like, hey, let me grab every guy I've 695 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: worked with in Tampa, LA and Kentucky and kind of 696 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: bring them in that way. He really went out and 697 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: found people that he had run into through his coaching career. 698 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 2: But not necessarily worked with before, and he felt would 699 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: take on their roles and utilize that in a way 700 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: that you know, kind of take take it under their 701 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: own control, and not guys that were just gonna follow 702 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: along with whatever he said, right, because Anthony Campanier Campanilea 703 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: really runs that side of the football camp Blake, and 704 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: not that Liam's not involved, And I just mean like 705 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: he's really able to trust in Camp and let him 706 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: do that. And and Yudinsky is very innovative, and the 707 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: way they work together, Liam Cohen and Yudinsky work together 708 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: on offense is and the relationship he has with Trevor 709 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: Lawrence is what really came together the back half of 710 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: that season. And having another year of that I think 711 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: will only be helpful to Trevor Lawrence and the rest 712 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: of the Jaguars. So I can see why he definitely 713 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: wanted both of them back. And and like I said, 714 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: and especially we're seeing like what ten openings this year, 715 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: Like there will be openings and there will be spots, 716 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: And I think because Yudinsky specifically is so young, I 717 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: think he knows that he will have an opportunity and 718 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: wants it to be the right one, right, another. 719 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: Year or two or whatever back here with the quarterback 720 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: and the head coach in place, and the system start 721 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: really starting to grow. It's not gonna hurt it all 722 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: to me. Come on, the phone's gonna ring again. 723 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: Exactly, So I don't think it hurts them. It's not 724 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: something like I gotta go now or I'm never gonna 725 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: get another chance. 726 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: You know, it would be interest. I mean, I'd love 727 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: to be a fly on the wall when Yudinsky and 728 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: Cohen are like designing plays like a new thing, like 729 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: maybe even this time of year, like let's let's figure 730 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 3: out how to utilize player X against this defense. And 731 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's got to be fascinating how they 732 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: worked out. 733 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: It's got to be beyond like insider football. I don't 734 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: know if I could follow. I think it would just 735 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: be like you let me know when you're done, and 736 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: then we'll draw it out and then I'll try to 737 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: follow along. But it's not easy. It's complicated when they 738 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 2: have it all together. So when they're planning, I imagine 739 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: it's just like if you watch it's always Sunday Phildelphia. 740 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: Charlie at one point turns into like has all these 741 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: things on the wall and strings across and looks like 742 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: a madman. And I feel like that's what maybe both 743 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: of their offices look like when they're trying to draw 744 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: stuff up. 745 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: Maybe so. And it's so precise and it's down to 746 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 3: every little movement pre snap, and then you got to 747 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: go rep it on the field and then you can't 748 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: illegal shift, you know, like that, And that's that's what 749 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: it comes down to at the end of the play. 750 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: Can can the players go execute what you do? 751 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: You can draw it up, but if they can't remember 752 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: it and follow along and make it happen execute, then 753 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: doesn't really mean much. 754 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: Second half of the season, they dar ensure it did 755 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: a lot. 756 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, which is awesome, and that's when everything's in sync. 757 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: It's pretty great to see. So I'm excited to you know, 758 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: everybody's second year in this is going to be hopefully 759 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: even better. It can only be, you know, more comfortable 760 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: with it at that point. Seeing how comfortable Trevor Lawrence 761 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: was that was so cool, just like kind of seeing 762 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: that progression. We always we've seen Trevor make those throws. 763 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: We know how talented he is, and that ability it was. 764 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: It's the consistent see we haven't seen right, and see 765 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: it so consistently the back half of the season, and 766 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 2: just him being so comfortable and just going out there like, oh, 767 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: I got it, like just you know, checking out of 768 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: plays or just like knowing where he wants to go 769 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: to the football and trusting himself and trusting his receivers. 770 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: It felt like it unlocked a little bit, and you're 771 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: hoping that we can continue that through another season. 772 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: There was that conversation before the I think it was 773 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: the Cardinals game. They sat out William Cohen with Trevor 774 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: hey Man, like we're here, you don't worry about throwing picks, 775 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: and he throws three interceptions, so litterally, Liam couldn't freak 776 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 3: out because he told him it's okay. And then that's 777 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: when I think Trevor kind of trusted the whole process 778 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: a little bit more and saying, you know what, we 779 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: could win if I throw a couple of picks, Like 780 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 3: we can overcome this. We're gonna play more football. And 781 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 3: then it was after that that the thing just took off. 782 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: And it's a reminder of like you know, you think 783 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: about football ten fifteen years ago, like quarterbacks threw more 784 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: interceptions because they were slinging it around a little bit more. 785 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: I think there's higher scoring offense, but I feel like 786 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: they feel like an inner the end of the world, 787 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: and it doesn't need to be, especially when you can 788 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 2: kind of shake it off, go back, or you have 789 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: a defensive trust it doesn't necessarily turn into points and 790 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: then you can move on. And Trevor got so much 791 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 2: better at being able to shake stuff like that off 792 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 2: and not let it affect him going further, because I 793 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: think sometimes it would get in his head and it 794 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: would continue. And if you can make a mistake and 795 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: immediately move on, that's growth obviously, and that's where I 796 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: feel like he's found more success, at least recently. 797 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to get past some of the 798 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 3: red zone ones though, oh boy, yeah, but then there 799 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: was like it's hard. 800 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: He cuts everybody right, Like, obviously you want to score 801 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 2: in the red zone and you're like, get the points. 802 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: But then they're very aggressive in the red zone in general. 803 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: There's other times where you're like, why do you kick 804 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 2: the field goal? So there's a lot of stuff in 805 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: the red zone that is stylistically. They play differently in 806 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: the red zone, and sometimes you win that way. And 807 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: sometimes you get a little frustrated. 808 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes let's come back in a moment. This is Austin 809 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 3: Lane's favorite segment when we come back on days, I'm 810 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: scaredoft co pilot segment. 811 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 2: Oh he loves AI. 812 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 3: Apparently, So all right, let's see we're going. 813 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what Microsoft Ai we've got. 814 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 3: We're going to get some answers out of Microsoft co Pilot. 815 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: We're going to ask when we come back. 816 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: On Tentionexlam, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. It is 817 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour, Welcome back, it is Jaguars Happy Hour, 818 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 3: final moments of our first program back after the hiatus 819 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 3: following the postseason, JP Shadwick, Kadani Stevens and time to 820 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 3: get Microsoft co Pilot to help us with some of 821 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 3: the off season schedule ahead. The question today for co 822 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: Pilot when does NFL free agency begin? This is an 823 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 3: easy start, easy back in the schedule for Copilot, and 824 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 3: I didn't want to break the computer today. NFL free 825 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: agency begins when the new league year officially opens, and 826 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 3: for the upcoming cycle, that date is March eleventh, four 827 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 3: pm Eastern. That's when teams can finalize signings, trains become official, 828 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 3: and expiring contracts rollover into the new year. 829 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: Check out you can chitta chat before that. 830 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: Two days before that ges. 831 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, make some calls, texts. 832 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 3: Yes, agents and front office. Yes. Check out Microsoft co 833 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 3: pilot for all your questions. 834 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: Absolutely right now. 835 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: That's part of a busy little time ahead in the 836 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: off season, and the important dates are right here upon 837 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 3: us now. Of course, the seat and combine next week. 838 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: That's changed over the last few years too. A lot 839 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: of the workouts are now in the evening. It's turned 840 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 3: into more of a television event, and you know, so 841 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 3: the schedule around that has expanded some. And then as 842 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 3: we talked about there, the franchise tag deadline is March third. 843 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 3: March ninth and ninth through eleventh is the negotiation period 844 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: and the March eleventh is the new league year and 845 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 3: the startup free agency. The Jaguars veterans don't come in 846 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: until like late April. April twentieth, the off season workout 847 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: program begins for teams with returning head coaches, so they 848 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: won't be in for a while. There is the NFL 849 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 3: annual Meeting Owners meetings. That's three days late March and 850 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 3: then the draft April twenty third through twenty fifth in Pittsburgh, 851 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania this year. So that's what's coming up. Busy time 852 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: of year. Really starting to take some steps forward now Finally, Yeah. 853 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 2: Football never stops, and this is kind of the front 854 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: offices time of year, right, putting every ducks in a 855 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: row and really getting the team put together that you 856 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: want to have in the fall or at the end 857 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: of the summer when training camp starts. And it'll look 858 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: a little different for the Jaguars this year, of course 859 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: with their later draft picks. We'll talk about that in 860 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: the coming weeks what the draft's actually going to look like. 861 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: But you have to feel good about where this team 862 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: is right now, what they were able to do in 863 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: the first year under their new regime. And then I 864 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: do think there will be some significant changes. I don't 865 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: know if it'll all be in free agency, but I 866 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: think there may be some key veterans brought in, and 867 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of I mean, there were 868 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: some hits and misses with free agency last year, but 869 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 2: some of the guys like Jordan Lewis or you look 870 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 2: at Robert Hainsey, some of the vets they brought in 871 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: when free agency made all the difference, Eric Murray, and 872 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: because a lot of them are vetts that want to 873 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: work with younger players as well, which isn't always the case, right. 874 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: You can get they just want to get their reps in, 875 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: just want to you know, play as long as they can. 876 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: But a lot of those guys really embraced the younger 877 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: players around them, and it didn't feel like they were 878 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: in spite of each other, like they're trying to make 879 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: each other better. And I think, you know, Eric Murray, 880 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis were able to help a lot of the 881 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: younger guys, whether it's Jarry and Jones or Antonio Johnson, 882 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 2: both of them had significantly better years last season than 883 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: they did the year before. And I think a lot 884 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: of that can be tutelage of people at your own 885 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 2: position and other players helping you out. And Hainesy was 886 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: really calming, I think in the center of that line 887 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 2: when there's so many changes around him, and what you 888 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: can do for a quarterback having a center that you 889 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 2: really trust in. So I think there can be some 890 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: really significant moves. I don't know if they'll be huge 891 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: splashes in terms of money, but I think there can 892 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: be some significant additions made through free agency, and I 893 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: feel like some of the ones made last year, I 894 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 2: mean there were some that didn't hit. You know, Dianmi 895 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: Round wasn't able to be as effective as they wanted. 896 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: But that was a one year deal. So when you 897 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: look at some of the other guys that are going 898 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 2: to be here and returning that were free gent editions, 899 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 2: I think they played huge roles last year. 900 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have to do a little work to 901 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 3: find some cap room and make some moves. 902 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: Well that's what they do. They're math guys. They're not 903 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: the math girl, but they're math guys. 904 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: I went to the Harvard of the South. But it's 905 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 3: tough for me to figure this out. 906 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 2: You know, it might be a little hard for you too. Yeah, 907 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: they'll make it work. They always do. They find ways 908 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: and you know, the ad extension years and move the 909 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: money out and there's there's ways to work around. 910 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 3: I mean, the Chief syst did it. They just renegotiated 911 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 3: with Patrick Mahomes and opened like forty million dollars or something. 912 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: There's all kinds of stuff that can be done. It's 913 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 2: crazy to make something happen. They will I. 914 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 3: Got a bonus trivia question for you. 915 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm scared. 916 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: Who was the first NFL player to compete in the 917 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 3: Winter Olympics? 918 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: Oh, what's sport? Let's do that. 919 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 3: Can you tell me what's I can't tell you that? 920 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 2: Well, give it away? Probably sorry, repeat the question. 921 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 3: The first NFL player to compete in the Winter Olympics. 922 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 3: There's a ton that's competed in the Summer. 923 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 2: Olympics, sure track or whatever else. 924 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 3: Whatever, Jim Thorpe, like all those guys. 925 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: Right, I have no idea. Is it a skier? 926 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 3: No, not a skier? 927 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 2: Bob Slid, Yes, hell yeah, that's awesome. Four man or 928 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 2: two man? 929 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 3: I don't remember. 930 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 2: Bob SLID's crazy to me? Well, no, skeleton is crazier. 931 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: Skeleton is like I'm actually afraid they're going to die. 932 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 3: Four man actually selected for the four man and then 933 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 3: competed in the two person companies. 934 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: Wow, who is it? I'm excited? 935 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two? 936 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 937 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 3: Herschel Walker, no big powerful runner right and off the 938 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 3: starting line and they finished seventh. 939 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 2: Herschel Walker is like life story is crazy, right, Like 940 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: I don't even know anymore? Like every chapter of that 941 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: is insane. So that's crazy. I did not know that. Wow, 942 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 2: that is a fun faction. Were big, We're all. We 943 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: got the Olympics on every TV here in the Midller 944 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 2: Electric Center. So we just watched the women's hockey team 945 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 2: get gold, which was a right before the show began, 946 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: so obviously that was good luck heading into happy hour. 947 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 2: But the Olympics are just I love it. We had 948 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: the Summer Olympics on a couple of years ago in 949 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 2: the building, and it's just that kind of athleticism is 950 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: so unique and seeing how hard they train and then 951 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 2: at the highest peak to come out. 952 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 3: One of the Summer Olympics we had Aaron Ross was 953 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 3: on the team and he was a cornerback and his wife, 954 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: Sonia Richards Ross, was a sprinter. It's awesome and so 955 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 3: we watched live. I don't know where the Olympics were 956 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 3: that year, in twenty twelve or twenty twelve, probably I 957 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 3: watched it live on the video boards in the stadium 958 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 3: because it was like during the off season or training 959 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 3: camp or something, so they stopped practice put it on 960 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 3: the big board. I think she won gold or something. Yeah, 961 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 3: it's kind of fun. 962 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I just love it. It's you know, everybody 963 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: can be peached, patriotic, come together and watch things you 964 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: never watched. I never watched skeleton, I ever watched Bob sled. 965 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: Just really, I don't you know. 966 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 2: I am. The curling fights are amazing. 967 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 3: That's intriguing. 968 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 2: The just the rivalries, the I mean, well. 969 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 3: We're going to videotape you cheat ith, You're not going. 970 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: To know it got them exactly a whole scandal in itself. 971 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: So I love all the controversy that goes along with it. 972 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: And everybody's kind of an expert in their own field, 973 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 2: so it's pretty fun to It's enjoyable, and I'm glad 974 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: this is kind of during the time so we can 975 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 2: really focus on it. 976 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 3: It's key jumping. 977 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 2: Heck, yeah, you see the dog that was out on 978 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: the cross country. 979 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 3: There was another like a ram or something the other day. 980 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: It was running up hill wild. 981 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm mom all for it. I find 982 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 2: it all very very entertaining. And they are all skills 983 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 2: of athleticism I could never dare to touch. So I'm 984 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 2: very impressed by a lot of them. 985 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: Final few moments here in the program on Jaguars Happy Hour, 986 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 3: GP Shadwick, Kenny Stevens Jeff Logan will be with us 987 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 3: next week right after we returned from the combine, and 988 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 3: we'll have another show for you next Thursday, four o'clock. 989 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 3: Each and every week, I'm curious if they're going to 990 00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 3: do some off season renegotiation extension. You know, there's a 991 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 3: couple guys that are now eligible to be extended if 992 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 3: you wanted to go that direction. Parker Washington's one of those. 993 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 2: Penn Staters might be people I would like, Brenton Stranger 994 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: and both guys that I would. 995 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 3: Be interested in, Ravon Walker. 996 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that's gonna be a big number, so 997 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 2: that maybe something I don't know where where they're, where 998 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 2: they stand on that what that number is going to 999 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 2: look like. I know he wants to stay here obviously, 1000 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 2: Trebon's really very much adapt to the area, loves it here. 1001 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 3: So I'd love an area though too. That would pay 1002 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 3: me about twenty five or thirty a year. 1003 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 2: I think I'll get that where. I think I'll get 1004 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: that wherever he lives, so I don't think that'll be 1005 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 2: problematic for him. But yeah, my focus if I was 1006 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: gonna uh, I think Parker Washington the one of the 1007 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: Nittney Lions if not, both would be where my focus 1008 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: would be. 1009 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 3: Briton Strange was so valuable when he. 1010 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 2: Was out you noticed it a lot, like the run 1011 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 2: game is amazing, and then he wasn't in anymore, and 1012 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 2: you're like, they're not as amazing that guy. 1013 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's the best. 1014 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 2: Blocker on your team. He's And also, like specifically Trayvon 1015 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 2: Walker and Breton Strange, when you talk about being a 1016 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 2: tough football team, those are, in my opinion, those are 1017 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 2: two toughest guys in football team. 1018 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 3: Parker Washington is getting hit and like flying five yards 1019 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 3: in the air, head over heels and coming. 1020 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 2: Down rubber yes, big legs. 1021 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 3: Like he's just I mean, it's unbelievable. 1022 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 2: He is someone and I think you know what you 1023 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: saw last year or maybe he was the fourth guy 1024 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 2: on the on the list and works his way up 1025 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 2: at the end of the year. He's like your wide 1026 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: receiver one pretty much. So, I mean, he his his 1027 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,479 Speaker 2: skill set was undeniable. What he did through training camp 1028 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: through the season was so impressive to me. I think 1029 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 2: you have to try to keep him if you can. 1030 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want him leaving in the. 1031 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: Building and get ahead of it. 1032 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 3: And especially the tide end. No, nobody else is going 1033 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 3: to sign that guy. Can't do it. Now, everybody else 1034 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 3: would sign that guy. 1035 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 2: Yes, don't allow it. I don't like to get to 1036 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 2: that point. 1037 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get there. And he's still got time for 1038 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 3: these It's not like sure, but. 1039 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 2: It's also like when you lock things in a little 1040 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: bit earlier, the money can be a little bit better 1041 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 2: and you already know how you feel about the situation. 1042 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 2: I don't think Breton Strange is going to be not 1043 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 2: tough next year, so I think he will only continue 1044 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: to get better. 1045 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 3: That's one of the lasting legacies of the previous administration. 1046 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 3: They got the quarterback done, really they did, and it's right. 1047 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 3: There were question marks around that with some of the play, 1048 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 3: especially earlier in the season, but I think they've turned 1049 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 3: the corner. 1050 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: And plus, the quarterback number is never going down, so 1051 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: it's not like, oh no, we paid too much or 1052 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 2: like the housing market and then it changed that. No, 1053 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: quarterback number is only going to continue to go up. 1054 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if he's not that good, then that's a 1055 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 3: big problem if you're signing into that number. 1056 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 2: Sure, but I think they felt the way they felt 1057 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: about Trevor at that time that was the past regime. 1058 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 2: But I think they were locked in with Trevor with 1059 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 2: the skills that they felt he had and now looks good. 1060 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 3: Earlier the better. We'll see what they do with that 1061 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 3: in the next few weeks, or it might not even 1062 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 3: be the next few weeks. It could be they could 1063 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 3: do that all the way into the training camp into 1064 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 3: the season if they want. 1065 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't have to be done. That's just something 1066 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 2: we're we're looking ahead saying, hey, maybe you want to 1067 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 2: do that. But they don't have to do that right now. 1068 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 3: No they don't. No, they don't combine next week, no 1069 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 3: Jaguars presence, the are, no head coach, no jail. There 1070 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 3: will be some scouts there, but none of the leadership 1071 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 3: is planning on going next week. And here we are. 1072 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 3: What do you got coming up? 1073 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 2: What do we got? Well, Jack Sam's back every Tuesday now, 1074 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 2: so we've got that going on. And then I think 1075 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 2: we're just kind of excited to see a little bit 1076 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 2: of how this offseason program works for what the coach. 1077 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: When we talk about you know, they're not going to 1078 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: it's not because they're not here. They're here, they're working. 1079 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 2: Things are going on, so kind of we have really 1080 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: great access for the hunt and kind of working with 1081 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: them behind the scenes to see what that's going to 1082 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 2: look like has been interesting. And yeah, I'm just I mean, 1083 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 2: it's I think it's good that it's calm right now. 1084 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: We're used to obviously the chaos and the new you know, 1085 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 2: we're hiring someone in this and that this is a 1086 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: good place to be. 1087 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with my hands right now. 1088 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm panicking, but it's good. I think this is needed. 1089 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 3: This is what it's supposed to be. 1090 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 2: This is what it's supposed to be like at the 1091 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: time of year. Wow, I've been told, but yeah, this 1092 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: is a good thing. 1093 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. 1094 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 2: No, we're just like kind of saying, we're just used 1095 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 2: to chaos, so it's a little bit different for us. 1096 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 3: Chaos, So now no chaos. It's a very calm off 1097 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 3: season and that's the way it's going to be, it 1098 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 3: feels like for the next little while here. We'll see 1099 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 3: what happens once, you know, free agency hits, if they 1100 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 3: find cap space and sign some guys they still probably do, 1101 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 3: and then they'll go into the draft and what they're 1102 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 3: going to do with the thirteen draft picks, none of 1103 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 3: them first rounders, is always fascinating to see. 1104 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think two weeks from now with free agency, 1105 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 2: that'll give us a little bit more of a sneak 1106 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: peak of what they're going to end up doing with 1107 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: the draft, because whatever they dress in free agency, that 1108 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 2: I'll give us a little bit better of a window 1109 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 2: of where the focus is going to be. And like 1110 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 2: I said, they may not be names you are uber 1111 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 2: familiar with, and it might not be huge money splashes, 1112 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 2: but there's going to be contributors added through free agency. 1113 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm positive that are going to be names that play 1114 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 2: a huge role come football season. 1115 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is. It is stuff. Enjoyed it. 1116 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 2: We're back, guys, We're back. We're back. 1117 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,479 Speaker 3: We're so back, Josh, We're back. We are not going 1118 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 3: anywhere for a while. 1119 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: We are just a little bit. I know, it feels 1120 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 2: like football. It's sad though, because like you're so used 1121 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 2: to football like every single week, and then after Super 1122 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 2: Bowl it's just like, oh, don't get to watch it 1123 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 2: for a little while. Yeah, right, that part is a 1124 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 2: little sad. But love March madness soon and I feel 1125 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 2: like that we have Olympics now of March madness, I 1126 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 2: can talk us through. It's it's okay. 1127 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,919 Speaker 3: No, we got World Cup this summer too. 1128 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,720 Speaker 2: World Cup. It'll be nice weather again, like it's already 1129 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 2: nice weather now. But you know what I mean, summertime, 1130 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 2: kids are out of school, there's there's all kinds of 1131 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 2: stuff to look forward to. You guys, don't. 1132 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 3: Panic, no, yeah, remain calm. Wow, it's kind Donnie Stevens, 1133 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm JP Shadwick. Are thanks to brit Reever, Joe Fortunado, 1134 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 3: and thanks to you for watching and listening. We are 1135 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 3: back each and every Thursday with this program four o'clock 1136 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,720 Speaker 3: on ten ten Xcel Amjaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube 1137 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 3: jags Am. 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