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Speaker 1: changed on him fast. And Sean Payton proved enough this

429
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: year to be more than capable of having this team

430
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: after the shitty start, you know, to be a guy

431
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: that the Waltons were gonna double down on. Right, they

432
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: already gave him ninety million dollars. They gave it to

433
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: him for a reason, and then he proved this year

434
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Speaker 1: kind of knows what he's doing. So the moment he

435
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: goes to them and says, we got to get rid

436
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: of this guy, they listen to him. And that to

437
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: me is clearly I'm sure that conversation has been taking

438
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: place throughout the season, but it's like, Sean, do what

439
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: you need to do, bro, Like we trust you, And

440
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: that's also what a good owner does, Like I'm paying

441
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: you a premium and this way. He's talking about the

442
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: Chargers a lot. When you sign a guy, a high

443
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: price coach, whether it's Pete, whether it's McVeigh, Kyle, Andy

444
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: Bill for twenty years, all these guys, Like, I'm paying

445
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: you premium to trust you, So like you're gonna know

446
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's ability contra. All that stuff. You've been in

447
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: this business long time, you fucking do you. I'll try

448
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: to sell seats, I'll try to market, I'll try to

449
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: do everything. You just help us win. I'm paying you

450
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: a premium to do everything football Wise's why I said

451
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: the other day about the Kevin Warren situation in Chicago, Like,

452
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: are you gonna if the new if Poles and Eberflus

453
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: both get blown out, whoever they hire, are they gonna

454
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: give Kart Blanche to do whatever they want? Because until

455
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: you do that as an owner, you'll never be dominant.

456
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: You just won't like say what you want about Jerry Jones,

457
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: like kind of lets Mike do what he needs to do.

458
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: And whether it's gonna work or not, I don't know,

459
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: but like that's how it works. I mean, that's how

460
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: success happens. You gotta let the Grand Pooba in your organization,

461
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: which is typically your coach cook and if he can't,

462
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: if he makes crappy meals, you gotta fire him if

463
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: he's not good enough. But like, listen, it was. It

464
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: couldn't have been easy for people in Seattle to be like, Pete,

465
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: are you sure you want to do this? He's like

466
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: trust me. John's like I would have done this four

467
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: years ago. I wanted Josh Allen, but the Browns told

468
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: me to kick Rocks or Russell declined it you know

469
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: so and then like I said, back to the courtquarter

470
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: back thing, huge element of luck. Never forget the Eagles

471
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: tried to trade for Russell Wilson two years ago. He declined,

472
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: He said no because of the no trade class. So

473
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: it's listen, Luck's a huge part of pro sports. What

474
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: a crazy move. I mean that there are what makes

475
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: sports great, right, especially the NFL. It's just such a

476
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: great reality television show. It wasn't even crossing my mind

477
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,239
Speaker 1: thought they just play out the string and then get

478
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: rid of them. But no, Sean Payton draws a line

479
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: in the sand and no moss for Russell Wilson in Seattle.

480
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: A couple other things, you know, Travis Kelcey. Obviously the

481
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Speaker 1: clip that went viral of him throwing his helmet, of

482
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Speaker 1: him not playing well, of a giving him the bump,

483
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Speaker 1: and I was just I was eating lunch with my

484
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: mom and my girlfriend. I was like, there's not another

485
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: coach in the league that could do that. Not only

486
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: could do that, but it wasn't even weird at all.

487
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: It shows you the gravitas that that coach Reid has,

488
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, and Travis knew. It was like it

489
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: was like my dad would have done to me when

490
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: I was younger. It's like fucking shape up or ship out.

491
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: And I saw some of the quotes that Travis gave.

492
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Speaker 1: I think Adam Tischer, who's covered the Chiefs forever, I

493
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: think he said it on his New Heights podcast. I

494
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: think part of the reason he's frustrated. And this is

495
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: the hard part about pro sports, because obviously Taylor Swift

496
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: comes up a lot. I think it's hard to lose

497
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: a step when you're an all time great player. It's

498
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: one thing if you're just like a decent player and

499
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: you're like, I might lose my spot. I had a five, six,

500
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Speaker 1: seven year career. I think there's another thing when you're

501
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Speaker 1: just I'm one of the greatest players ever, not like

502
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: tight End. I'm like, legit, one of the great NFL

503
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: players ever. Charles Barkley is awesome because he's just so

504
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: candid and authentic, and he said it forever like I

505
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: started fighting teammates and looking back, it turned out like

506
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: I just sucked. I couldn't play anymore. And I think

507
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: the moment you start slipping, like Mahomes is frustrated and

508
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: he starts playing shittier, but it's because his team's kind

509
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: of falling apart. It's not because like he's losing a step,

510
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: but Travis is. And I love Travis Kelsey. I met

511
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Speaker 1: him earlier this year at TP we see talk to

512
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: him for like fifteen minutes. I text Coach read right

513
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: after him, like I just met Travis. He's he's a

514
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: very down to earth guy. Now this is pre Taylor Swift,

515
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: but we just kind of talked, and everyone I know

516
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs swears by the guy. He's been an

517
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Speaker 1: incredible not just player, but I think person that relationship

518
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: in that organization really since you know that latter part

519
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: of Alex and then Mahomes maturing as a guy and

520
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: become a leader. But I think once your game is

521
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: not the same, and I've seen it with the Warriors,

522
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Speaker 1: with Klay Thompson. It's it's difficult, right. Most of us,

523
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: in most of our professions get better as we age,

524
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: get to hone our craft throughout, you know, our thirties,

525
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: our forties, our fifties. Depending on what you do, you

526
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: can do it in your sixties and seventies. You know,

527
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Speaker 1: as an athlete, especially a guy like Travis who is

528
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Speaker 1: so dependent on athleticism. If you're a ninety eight and

529
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Speaker 1: then you go to an eighty eight, I'm just doing

530
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: like the video games type thing. That's a hard ten

531
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Speaker 1: point wints to lose. And you go from eighty eight

532
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: to like sixty much faster than you go from ninety

533
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: eight to eighty eight. So I think you start seeing

534
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: your athletic mortality. Here's the other thing. These guys aren't dumb, man.

535
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: I don't care how big your ego is and how

536
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: great of a career you've had. Think how many players

537
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: in Travis's career he seemed to come and go in

538
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: his organization. It's the part of the business. Peyton Manning

539
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: was cut. Tom Brady was told by Belichick we don't

540
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: want you. Joe Montana was traded, so like arguably the

541
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Speaker 1: greatest three or four players in the league in league history,

542
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: we're told, nope, audios, Sea, We're gonna go in a

543
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: different direction. So if it can happen to Montana, Brady

544
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning, fuck Aaron Rodgers, the Packers were done,

545
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: it can happen to anybody. And when you know that,

546
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: like like that's just it's not something in baseball and

547
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: basketball with these guaranteed contracts, just like I got four

548
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: more years. They can't get rid of me even if

549
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: they benched me and I slipped. And I'm not saying

550
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Travis is like level of like kicking him to the curb,

551
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: but he's not dumb and he understands when he's not

552
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: playing well. This has nothing to do with Taylor Swift

553
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: really doesn't. I know, she's a big part of the conversation.

554
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: It just has him not being as good. And when

555
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: you're just not as good, like it's tough in the

556
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: NFL because you you know, think of not just how

557
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: many teammates you've played with, but you play in a

558
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: division and you've seen so much turnover on the teams.

559
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: You play. It's a very, very humbling industry. Right, coaches

560
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: get fired. I've been into a scout, scouts, gms get fired.

561
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how old you are, it doesn't matter

562
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: what your resume is. It can happen anyone at any moment.

563
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not saying they're gonna cut him this offseason.

564
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: I haven't even looked at his contract lately, though. He

565
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: doesn't make that much money relative to you know, a

566
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: lot of positions Google Andy, you know, and he's got

567
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: rid of a lot of guys with elite resumes and

568
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: it would be very, very difficult. But two years ago,

569
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: think about it, if your traps they traded Tyreek Hill,

570
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: who might be the fucking MVP of the league. They

571
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: traded him first, first and a second and like a fourth.

572
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: See you, buddy, Audios, God speed, appreciate your effort. We

573
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: need to get some youth in here. Tyra Hill in

574
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: the peak of his powers, and there wasn't even a

575
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: no One was like, you know, I don't think Tyreek

576
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: can play, think he's losing a step. No One uttered

577
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: that dude's gone to Miami and like added to a

578
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career in like an impressive way. It's

579
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: been just as good with not as good of a quarterback.

580
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: You've been incredible, and he's like, see you, this is

581
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: just the league can come at you fast man. And

582
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: last but not least, Jacoby Brissette named the starter. I've

583
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: seen a lot of different thoughts like why would they

584
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: do this? I think it's pretty simple. If you're Ron Rivera,

585
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: you know you're getting fired. You got two more games

586
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: to be a head coach, and you're never gonna be

587
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL again. It's over. It's

588
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: the ship is aled. I think you're throwing a veteran

589
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: guy whose people love them, super high character guy a bone.

590
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: Give him a couple of games to get some game film.

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00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: If you have one good game honestly had some good

592
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: moments against the Jets, If in one of the next

593
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: two weeks he just has a good game, that could

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Speaker 1: be worth ten fifteen million dollars to Jacoby Wessett over

595
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: a couple of year span, that could be multiple five

596
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: seven million dollar contracts to be a backup. I heard

597
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: I was listening to Lombardi or someone the other day say,

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Speaker 1: can you imagine if the Patriots has had Jacoby were

599
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: sett with they have been in the playoffs, right, so

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Speaker 1: you do a solid and listen. Ron's a former player,

601
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: He's been coached long enough in the league. Like it's

602
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of throwing him a bone. Ultimately, Sam Howe his situation.

603
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: He's either gonna be the starter or the backup next

604
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: year more than likely depending you know, if they draft

605
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: a guy be the backup quarterback in Washington, but his

606
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: his spot's kind of set. To me. Jacoby is one

607
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: of those guys when you get these reps and you

608
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: get this game film, it changes life as a guy

609
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: like that. You know, I know he's already made some money,

610
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: but I'm just extend your NFL life, right. Look, Gardner

611
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: Minshew got to play this year. Think how much money

612
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: the guy's made. Jake Browning, think how much money the

613
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: guy's made. The hard part and having been in the

614
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: front office and evaluating quarterbacks now, this year is unique

615
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: because like sixty guys have started, but on a given year,

616
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: most starters play most games. So you may see a

617
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: couple backups here and there, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: if you're a backup quarterback, the only film. As we

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Speaker 1: go into free agency, or should we trade for this

620
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: guy is typically based on the preseason and we know

621
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: what a joke that is. So when you get regular

622
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: season game film, your resume is enhanced dramatically. So I

623
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's really that complicated of a move, and

624
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: I think they're simply doing it to throw their guy

625
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: a bone. Last, but not least, my friends in uber eats,

626
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: it's time for this week's player or executive. I thought

627
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: might give almost almost anything to redo his game, brought

628
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: to you by Ubrey. To me, there's a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago, they traded multiple first round picks, felt

630
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: like half their roster for Russell Wilson, and they gave

631
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: him like one hundred and eighty million dollars. And I

632
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: think George Peyton who the moment they struck out on

633
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Who? To me, you trade for Aaron Rodgers

634
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: any day of the week, twice on Sundays. I don't care,

635
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: Like I'll never have no problem with the Jets doing it,

636
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: no problem with them wanting to do it. If you

637
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: wanted to argue me about hiring his buddy as the

638
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: head coach. It it feels like everyone has to do that.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is in a different universe than Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: The Russell thing, like whether I got an opinion, whether

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Speaker 1: you got an opinion right wrong? Was he slipping? Was

642
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Speaker 1: he still gonna be as good? It doesn't really matter.

643
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Speaker 1: The general manager is paid to know where he's trending.

644
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Speaker 1: And John Schneider wanted to get rid of him, like,

645
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Speaker 1: if you are in his shoes, it's fair to go.

646
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Speaker 1: Why wasn't that a major red flag to you? And

647
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Speaker 1: like I said, desperation, desperation, desperation, desperate to make a

648
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Speaker 1: movie that would make you a legendary general manager. Instead

649
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Speaker 1: it made you a GM that, let's face it. For years,

650
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Speaker 1: George Patten or Peyton, I always scrip his name was

651
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Speaker 1: a interviewing for GM jobs, turning them down. And there's

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Speaker 1: a decent chance in you know, ten plus days, he

653
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Speaker 1: will be fired and he'll never be a general manager

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Speaker 1: in the NFL again. So I think he would be

655
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Speaker 1: a guy that would like a little redo. So that's

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Speaker 1: this week's almost almost anything Executive of the Week, And

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Speaker 1: let's bang out a couple of mailbags. You guys know

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Speaker 1: the drill at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the

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Speaker 1: Instagram fire in those direct messages at John Middlecoff. Two

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Speaker 1: f's fire in the DMS. Question for the mailbag, at

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Speaker 1: what point does every quarterback getting bigger contracts come to

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Speaker 1: an end? It seems almost impossible for teams to win

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Speaker 1: once a quarterback is making thirty five to forty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Mahomes and the Chiefs this year is an

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Speaker 1: example always enjoy your content. Well, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: a great example because they're gonna end up winning ten

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Speaker 1: or eleven games. I think the problem is they just

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Speaker 1: they would probably like a couple of redos on some

671
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Speaker 1: skill guys. Right. I think if they get some redos,

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Speaker 1: they're just a couple of redos in the draft, right,

673
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Speaker 1: I think they would take a Laporta with the last

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft last year in the first round.

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Speaker 1: And definitely sky Moore is a situation they draft him

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Speaker 1: in the second round. But when you have you just

677
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Speaker 1: need to draft to bear your fruit. And when it doesn't,

678
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Speaker 1: you know, produce, you're in a little trouble. But the

679
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are still I mean, if they win these last

680
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Speaker 1: two games, they're gonna win eleven games, So like if

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Speaker 1: that's the disaster, I think Mahomes a little bit of outlier.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with Josh Allen, Like both those teams are

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Speaker 1: gonna win ten eleven games. I think the problem you

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Speaker 1: get is this is my issue with Purty, Like everyone's

685
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Speaker 1: like they don't have to pay pretty yet the moment

686
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Speaker 1: we gotta start paying party, Like let's see his body

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Speaker 1: at work, Trevor Lawrence under notes when I want to see,

688
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Speaker 1: like what are they gonna do? Uh not pay them?

689
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Speaker 1: Like to me, Trevor Lawrence is not getting a new

690
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: contract this year. Guys after the third year they got

691
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Speaker 1: new contracts were Josh Allen, where Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson

692
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Speaker 1: didn't even get one. Like, no, I'm not paying Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence for playing this fucking thing out, So we don't

694
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Speaker 1: always have to rush to pay everybody. I just do

695
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Speaker 1: not believe that, like prove it and now you get

696
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Speaker 1: in weird situations, but like, don't the Giants played it

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Speaker 1: out and then they still gave him money. So I

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Speaker 1: think you just need to be more prudent, Like listen,

699
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Speaker 1: when you know you have an all time, great player,

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Speaker 1: you got no choice say that. The Cardinals did it

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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. It was after three seasons, Like, can't

702
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: we just play one more? Can't we just take a

703
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: deep breath? What's our rush? I think everyone always rushes

704
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Speaker 1: into it. I don't understand the Russell Wilson contract anymore.

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Speaker 1: Last year it was he's guaranteed a bazillion dollars, they're

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Speaker 1: stuck with him, and now it's they're benching him so

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Speaker 1: they don't have to pay him. Which is it, Well,

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Speaker 1: they truly guaranteed him. I have to go back and

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Speaker 1: look at the contract. Well, whatever the number is, true

710
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Speaker 1: guarantees doesn't matter whether you're injured or not. That's the

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Speaker 1: money that you're getting, no matter what. And then the

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Speaker 1: moment after a couple of years, remember they paid him

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Speaker 1: two years ago, it starts having these kickers like I

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Speaker 1: can cut you, but if you pass the physical, if

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Speaker 1: you can't pass a physical injury guarantees, So like once

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Speaker 1: you get to a certain point of like the two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars of the contract instead of

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Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty, one hundred and sixty or

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Speaker 1: whatever the number is, then it starts having these yearly kickers. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's why that free agency date for a lot of

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Speaker 1: players is so big. I haven't even done a deep

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Speaker 1: dive into the contract. But like when I sign you

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Speaker 1: to let's just pick even numbers. Two hundred million dollars, right,

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Speaker 1: I give you a five year, two hundred million dollar contract,

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Speaker 1: so you're making, well that be forty million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: but I only guarantee you one hundred million dollars true guarantees.

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Speaker 1: So like the moment you sign that contract, and let's

728
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Speaker 1: say you're signing bonus is fifteen million dollars. So you

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Speaker 1: got a two hundred million dollar contract, one hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars is guaranteed, and you got a fifty million dollars

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Speaker 1: signing bones. So the moment you sign the contract, I

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Speaker 1: think it's within two weeks, you get fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Now you're technically like a W two employee, so you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you get whatever thirty million dollars into your account,

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Speaker 1: but that signing bonus comes through. Then over the course

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Speaker 1: of like twelve or eighteen months, you get that one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. So you have made one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: This isn't basketball or baseball where you're paid even numbers

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Speaker 1: every year. Contracts are very manipulated in football. And then

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Speaker 1: that's separate one hundred million dollars That non truly guaranteed

741
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: money is a lot of times for injury. So if

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Speaker 1: in the second year you shatter your leg, like, they're

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Speaker 1: kind of stuck with you. So it's still very you know,

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00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: incentivized for you. Like if you play and get injured,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of on the team. But if you're not,

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Speaker 1: I still can have somewhat of a clean break. Now,

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Speaker 1: the reason the dead money is so big is because

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Speaker 1: when even in that example, I just gave you the

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in guaranteed money, I amortize over

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Speaker 1: the books over the five years. But what do I do?

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Speaker 1: A lot of times I make it bigger in year three,

752
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Speaker 1: four and five than I do in year one and two,

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Speaker 1: But I still have to account for that money on

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Speaker 1: my salary cap. That hunt that truly guaranteed money I

755
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: have to account for like a credit card. I have

756
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Speaker 1: to pay it at some point in time. It's why

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00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: like when the Cowboys cut Dez and remember Tony Romo retired,

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00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: they were still paying for it because they pushed it

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Speaker 1: down on the books, which is smart business because you

760
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: just kind of live in the moment. But the contract,

761
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Speaker 1: it's just very complicated because it's always about guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the Rashard Mendenhall tweet? Is

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Speaker 1: that how a lot of people in the NFL talk

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Speaker 1: behind closed doors. I've never heard anyone talk like that now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't worked for a team now a while.

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Speaker 1: The internet, and I think a lot of these guys,

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Speaker 1: like when you see a lot of quote unquote tweets,

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Speaker 1: you know, former players or just people on the internet,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is you just bored.

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Speaker 1: You're kind of living in this fucking world. There's probably

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Speaker 1: a lot of misery going around in your head. I

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Speaker 1: think most times we're on a team, like people are

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Speaker 1: just pretty normal. I know, you know. I think some

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Speaker 1: of the divisive shit that goes on on social media

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Speaker 1: is like people talk shit about that stuff in a

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Speaker 1: team sense. It's just it's it's like, well, put your

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Speaker 1: phone down, go fucking live life. I think most people

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Speaker 1: reacted to it. How a lot of people were like

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00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: making fun of it, it's stupid would be my ultimate take.

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Speaker 1: I always kind of like Rishard man and all as

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Speaker 1: a player. I thought he was pretty good early on

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Speaker 1: in his career with the UH with Pittsburgh clearly seems

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Speaker 1: kind of like angry. Hey John, I'm a new fan

784
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Speaker 1: of the pod and love listen to you in Colin.

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Speaker 1: My question for you is should the Cleveland Browns consider

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Speaker 1: trading up into the late first round of the draft

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Speaker 1: to take quarterback like Penic or bon Nicks. I understands

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Speaker 1: Watson's contract is a massive albatross which is impossible to

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Speaker 1: get out of under the new the way the CBA is,

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Speaker 1: but it's a time to start planning for the future.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough one, man. I think you're kind of stuck.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can trade up for quarterback, especially

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Speaker 1: because his contract we just talked about, the two hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty million dollars is the way it impacts your books.

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Speaker 1: He has a massive, massive cap hit, so his cap

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Speaker 1: hit the next three years. You have to draft cheap labor,

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Speaker 1: and the only way you get that is have the

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Speaker 1: picks and you trade up. You'd lose a bunch of picks.

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Speaker 1: So I would say no. On that one. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: Colts had the plan to start Richardson for the year.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, do you think they win more

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Speaker 1: or less games if he didn't get hurt? Also, do

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Speaker 1: you think Minshew will be viewed as a bright starter

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Speaker 1: on a high end backup this offseason. I think it's

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Speaker 1: impossible to play the game on Anthey Richis. I think

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Speaker 1: if you're going to take an educated guest, you said

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Speaker 1: you guys would have won less games, assuming you're a

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Speaker 1: Colts fan, just because rookie quarterback, I would say less.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy wasn't winning in college, so to

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Speaker 1: think that he would just immediately suc come you'd win eight, nine,

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Speaker 1: ten games in the pros, I think you would have

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Speaker 1: won less games. Now, I think big picture, long term,

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Speaker 1: it would have benefited them greatly to get those reps,

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Speaker 1: to have that tape, to have that teaching process, to

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Speaker 1: have the ups and the downs. But I think Minshew

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Speaker 1: one percent is probably a better player. I don't think

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Speaker 1: probably is a better player today. Right if you had

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Speaker 1: to win a football game yesterday, you would take Gardner

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Speaker 1: Minshew over Anthony Richardson. Now, over the next five years,

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Speaker 1: not even a questions why they drafted the guy. I

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Speaker 1: think Minshew made a lot of money this year. I

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Speaker 1: think someone could give him like one year fifteen million

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Speaker 1: dollars to be a bridge starter. I think he could

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Speaker 1: be a backup quarterback in the NFL for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward. As a lifelong Lions fan, I am a

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Speaker 1: static about the direction of the team. When I actually

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Speaker 1: watched them play, I see two big weaknesses edge and

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Speaker 1: do you think with one more good draft and wise

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Speaker 1: free agency moves, the Lions could be the favorites in

830
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Speaker 1: the NFC next year? Well, I think as long as

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Speaker 1: Jared Goffs your quarterback, you would have to just hit

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Speaker 1: some home runs on because it's always gonna be somewhat

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Speaker 1: of a limitation. But your team going into next year

834
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Speaker 1: is stupid stacked. I mean, all these guys that are

835
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Speaker 1: good on your team are all coming back, all the alignment,

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Speaker 1: all the impact offensive players. Aiden Hutchinson, you would think Campbell,

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Speaker 1: your first round pick, is gonna be better. One way.

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Speaker 1: I think you can help it because it's hard to

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Speaker 1: get edge rusher's right, and if you, let's say you're

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Speaker 1: in the second round of the playoffs, like you're usually

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Speaker 1: not gonna find TJ. Watt in the second round or

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Speaker 1: excuse me, in the in the twenties, right. I think

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Speaker 1: if you improve the defensive tackle spot, right, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily have to be an edge. I just improve the

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Speaker 1: defensive line to go with Aidon Hutchinson. Right. If you

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Speaker 1: can just find a legit interior guy to go win them,

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Speaker 1: it can boost you dramatically. In corner, sometimes there's a

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Speaker 1: little luck involved, like can you find a guy in

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Speaker 1: the second or third round that just can be an

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Speaker 1: impact player. I don't think you need to draft, you know,

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Speaker 1: a star corner in the first round because you never know,

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Speaker 1: like you can find starters in the all over the draft.

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Speaker 1: I would draft a couple of them, a couple dbs,

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Speaker 1: and just hope you hit on one of them. I

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Speaker 1: would always, though, invest early on in the lines, and

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Speaker 1: I would just keep doubling down there, double down the

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Speaker 1: defensive line, and load up on offense. You'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Now it's just gonna come down. Can you trust Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff in the biggest moments. I've always been a fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm biased. I mean, I've watched him since he was

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Speaker 1: in college. I have followed his career really since his

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Speaker 1: senior year in high school. But it can't. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's not the same guy outside. That's not really arguable,

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Speaker 1: and there's just are you just one hundred percent confident

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Speaker 1: in the guy? I think this? I think that's a

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Speaker 1: fair thing to ask, but ultimately, like what a time

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Speaker 1: to be alive. You're a Lions fan. Now your basketball

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Speaker 1: team might lose fifty straight games even though your coach

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Speaker 1: is making seventy five million dollars, But your football teams

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Speaker 1: are really fun and I mean still has a chance

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Speaker 1: to be the number one overall. See should I hope

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Speaker 1: you guys win a playoff game? Because I do think

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Speaker 1: if somehow that you ended up playing the Rams in

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Speaker 1: the first round and lost, that that would suck. That

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Speaker 1: would be that would really be a kick. And then

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Speaker 1: you know what they have the type season you have

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Speaker 1: and have Matt Stafford come into your house and do

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Speaker 1: that to you, that would feel like a little unfair, honestly,

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Speaker 1: it would, even though I want to see it, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily you guys lose. I just want to see the game.

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Speaker 1: And you guys easily could win that game as well,

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Speaker 1: But that would be if all the teams lose to that,

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Speaker 1: that'd be tough, especially in the first round home playoff game.

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Speaker 1: You haven't won a playoff game and what thirty plus years,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd be very very exciting. The volume