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Speaker 1: before we dive into the biggest, i'd say non uh

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Speaker 1: super Bowl stories of Super Bowl Sunday in Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time really today thinking about

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Speaker 1: we never know what it's gonna be, personally or professionally.

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Speaker 1: It is inevitable. If you live long enough, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Like it just doesn't get any better. And now Matt

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Speaker 1: Can I get a couple? Can I change the narrative

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Speaker 1: even that that's such a low brow argument. Right now,

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Speaker 1: That just period, point blank, end of story. I don't

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Speaker 1: thought the coult that week were like the lock of

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Speaker 1: the week. And I understand being angered when you feel

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Speaker 1: you got fleeced on the deal and being mad at

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Speaker 1: your general manager and mad at your coach, but you're

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Speaker 1: kind of stuck with it and there's nothing you can do.

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Speaker 1: And I I totally agree with Colin. This is the

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Speaker 1: type story that comes from the owner, honestly, Chris Mortenson,

431
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Speaker 1: who's just an all time, you know, legendary NFL reporter,

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Speaker 1: Like he talks to the highest of high guys in

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Speaker 1: these organizations, and you don't put stories out like this

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Speaker 1: on the star players. One thing with a guard or

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver or safety. No one gives a ship

436
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: but those guys. You know, it's part of the NFL

437
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: that turnover. With quarterbacks, you get a little sensitive about

438
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Speaker 1: how you're what are saying about him publicly and to

439
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: meet both these two comments come from someone that just

440
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: doesn't care about offending them because ultimately they're writing the check.

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Speaker 1: Some other stories this week is a rap sheet. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen a Sunday night news drop. During the Super Bowl,

443
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: rap sheet tweeted out a story that Steven Ross, who

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Speaker 1: supposedly offered Brian Flores a hundred thousand dollars to lose

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Speaker 1: a game. And let's not get it twisted, that was

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00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: the right move because if the Dolphins had Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: they would have been in the playoffs this year. How

448
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Speaker 1: they might have been the super Bowl. It's it's Brian

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Speaker 1: Flores winning those last two games two thousand nineteen is

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Speaker 1: one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my

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Speaker 1: life watching NFL football. When you're three and eleven and

452
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Speaker 1: to win your last two games to go from drafting

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Speaker 1: one overall with a historic quarterback coming out in the

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Speaker 1: draft and ended up with Ta Like it's just the

455
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,959
Speaker 1: results speak for themselves. Somehow, he's still able to win

456
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Speaker 1: nineteen games but didn't make the playoffs either time. The

457
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Speaker 1: story basically says that if they find him guilty, there

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Speaker 1: can be an owner's vote and they can vote him out.

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00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: Now I don't know how, I don't know any NFL owners,

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00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: but to me, if Steven Ross, like if it was

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Speaker 1: Dan Snyder, you'd be like he's gone. They're voting him out.

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00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: And that story is kind of flying around too, like

463
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Speaker 1: they're finally gonna have their opportunity, like, yeah, wake me

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Speaker 1: when they kicked Dan Snyder. We've been saying this for

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Speaker 1: six years and he's got nowhere. I mean, the closest

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Speaker 1: it got, Jon Gruden got fired. So when we stop

467
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Speaker 1: acting like Dan Snyder is going anywhere, because it feels

468
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Speaker 1: like Steven Ross is closer to getting booted. But if

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Speaker 1: Steven Ross is friends with the owners, because that's it's

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Speaker 1: just the thirty two guys like Roger Goodell works for

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Speaker 1: all these guys. If those guys like him, they won't

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Speaker 1: give a ship and they won't vote him out. So

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Speaker 1: to me, it's all gonna come down to his relationship

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Speaker 1: with his partners. If it's good, he's fine. If it's shitty,

475
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Speaker 1: it's over. Now. I don't think necessarily the NFL wants

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Speaker 1: to get in the business of booting people out of

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Speaker 1: the league. I think it's a slippery slope. Uh. I

478
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Speaker 1: know Mark Cuban has said that before. Now, when you

479
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Speaker 1: do something that you gotta go, you gotta go. It

480
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: was an easy one. Like Adam Silver has gotten so

481
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Speaker 1: much credit for so many years kicking out Donald Sterling.

482
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Donald Sterling was one of the biggest pieces of ships

483
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Speaker 1: in American history. People hated the human being and and

484
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Speaker 1: the ever Silver got all this credit when he finally

485
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: booted him, It's like, bro, have you guys been you

486
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: wanted to do this forever? Like you don't get credit

487
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Speaker 1: for kicking out some big time just absolute scumback and listen,

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Speaker 1: is Dan Snyder that level of scumbag? Maybe? I don't know,

489
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: never met the guy, but clearly everyone in the league

490
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Speaker 1: hates him, and I think the one of the main

491
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Speaker 1: reasons they want him out because they want Bezos to

492
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Speaker 1: buy that team. They want him to buy the Washington

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Speaker 1: Football team Commanders? Are they not the I guess you

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Speaker 1: gotta call them the Commanders, even though I really like

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Speaker 1: the football team. I just would to call him the

496
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Speaker 1: football team. They want bezos to own that team. And

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00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: if you're bezos, like you, don't just want to own

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Speaker 1: any team, right, you want to own the team that

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Speaker 1: you want to own. Why because when you're worth five

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Speaker 1: billion dollars, you only buy things you want to buy.

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Speaker 1: You don't like. Well, I don't really want the Denver Broncos,

502
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: but I want to get me No, I want the

503
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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. That's the squad I want. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I believe they truly want him out Stephen Ross. It'll

505
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: just come down. Do you know what they feel about him?

506
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Speaker 1: Who knows? You know, sometimes rich people like other rich people.

507
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't. Who knows? Uh, The Raiders. A story

508
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: came out yesterday by a rap sheet was just keeping

509
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Speaker 1: them coming here that they want to extend Derek Carr.

510
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Speaker 1: And there's also some numbers floated out like five two million,

511
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: a lot of money for a guy with no playoff victories.

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Speaker 1: But you know the going right for these quarterbacks. Back

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Speaker 1: to Matt Stafford's it's astronomical numbers. Right, once guy starts

514
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: for overtwo million dollars, like that sets the new standard.

515
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: Now the salary cap goes up. But I see both

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Speaker 1: sides of this. If I'm Josh McDaniels and this is

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Speaker 1: my last shot, right, the Denver thing went poorly. I

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Speaker 1: spurned Indianapolis, my name. You know, it'd kind of been

519
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: it just fallen out of favor a little bit. Right,

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Speaker 1: even though I had been the number one coordinator in

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Speaker 1: the league. It feels like the last four or five

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Speaker 1: years as a true offensive coordinator, I finally take this job.

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Speaker 1: This is my shot. And we see these teams, the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, the Commanders, all these teams. It's weird even

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Speaker 1: saying commanders, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest. They

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Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. He got no shot. And they

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback who's not a top five guy, but

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Speaker 1: he's like a top twelve guy. And you can compete

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Speaker 1: and make the playoffs with in a division that has

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, that has Justin Herbert, and you know, more

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Speaker 1: than likely is gonna have Aaron Rodgers. So even if

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Speaker 1: you could trade and you could trade Derek for several

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Speaker 1: first round picks who would play quarterback for you? When

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Speaker 1: you're in a division that you gotta play six of

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Speaker 1: the best player. I mean, you've got if Aaron Rodgers

536
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Speaker 1: this trade of the Denver Broncos, you gotta play Mahomes

537
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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers four times and Justin Herbert. I don't

538
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Speaker 1: care how bad Brandon Staley is. If I got to

539
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: play just Justin Herbert, that is not an easy day

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Speaker 1: at the office. So it makes sense to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: But my counter is just like, well, couldn't you just

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Speaker 1: play this season out and see how you vibe with Derek,

543
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: because if you signed Derek to this massive, hundred million

544
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: dollar contract, you are tied at the hip with the

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Speaker 1: quarterback you've never coached, and you just don't truly know

546
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Speaker 1: how you guys are gonna interact, how you're gonna like

547
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: coaching him. We see it all the time with these coaches.

548
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: They signed a contract and then a couple of years

549
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: later and Derek is better than Jared Goff. But it

550
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: was within a year of Jared Goff taking the ramps

551
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl that Sean McVeigh couldn't even look

552
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: at him anymore. He's like, I've had enough. So I

553
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: would be very hesitant to sign someone you would never get,

554
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, married, without meeting someone right and I know

555
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: technically these guys have met, but without dating them for

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Speaker 1: a minimum, you know, a year. I would say, wouldn't

557
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: you want to spend some time together, just the weekly

558
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Speaker 1: grind of the season training camp, seeing how you guys

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Speaker 1: vibe like that, That's what I would recommend. Plus like,

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Speaker 1: what's what's the rush? Where's he gonna go? He's not.

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Speaker 1: He's already said on the record that he he would

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Speaker 1: retire before he left the Raiders, so he's telling you

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Speaker 1: that he wants to stay there. I would be very,

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Speaker 1: very hesitant if I was Josh McDaniel and Ziegler of

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Speaker 1: just signing a long term contract until I coached him,

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Speaker 1: until I got in the trenches against these guys and

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Speaker 1: I see how it goes, because what he did for

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00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: Rich and John is somewhat irrelevant to me. If I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, now, the counter would be, we just saw

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00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: Josh figured out with Mac Jones. Derek is clearly more

571
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: talented than Mac Jones. But once you signed these enormous contracts,

572
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: you are just stuck with the guy and his enormous

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Speaker 1: cap number. You just don't have any flexibility. It. I

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Speaker 1: understand why Sean McVeigh and Matt Stafford signed a huge deal.

575
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Speaker 1: They know what they're getting. He just spent a year

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Speaker 1: with them. Hell, they just won the Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: I just I'm hesitant to do stuff like this until

578
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Speaker 1: I get my hands on someone as a GM or

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Speaker 1: a coach, just because we change our minds. Things change

580
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: so fast in football. You know these are fluid operations.

581
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was an m v P too. Now teams

582
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: can't stand the guy. Kyler Murray a couple of years ago,

583
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: lock number one pick, and now people are calling him

584
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: a self centered basically assholes twenty four months. This notion

585
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: that you just kum bay off for eight years, It's

586
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: just not the case in most of these situations. And

587
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: obviously Derek's high character guy, hard worker, so I'm not

588
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: comparing him to those individuals. But I always not Jared Goff,

589
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: great guy. People liked them until Sean McVeigh hated him.

590
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: So you just, I just think we need to pump

591
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: the brake sometimes on giving these enormous contracts. And last

592
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: is the Packers. You know, if I told you right now,

593
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, at dinner time, I'm gonna want to eat.

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00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: That's like the Packers saying we're ready to give Aaron

595
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers a lot of money. We know that, we understand

596
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: that you guys will do anything humanly possible to keep

597
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You would be morons if you wouldn't write you.

598
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: He just won back to back m vps. You guys

599
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: have won it feels like thirty nine games the last

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Speaker 1: three years. In the regular season, you've been the number

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Speaker 1: one seed the last two seasons. Your division sucks. Your quarterback,

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00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love probably just not very good. You know, by

603
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: year two we watched him against Kansas City. Now that's

604
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: not an easy place to play, But look like a

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00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: practice squad player, not you know, a late first rounder.

606
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: And really where you're drafted at quarterback. I mean, some

607
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 1: guy Dak Prescott was good right away as a fourth rounder.

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00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen Josh Rosen basically, you know, is

609
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: an immediate backup two years after getting drafted number ten.

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00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: So once you get to the NFL, what you did

611
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: in college is kind of irrelevant. And let's face it,

612
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: Josh uh Jordan's love in college wasn't that great. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Packers will do absolutely anything to keep

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00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but it's out of their control. You know,

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Speaker 1: I watched the uh the NFL Awards, they tweeted out.

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Speaker 1: I think the NFL tweeted out Aaron Rodgers giving the

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Speaker 1: speech about winning the m v P, and he went

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00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: out of his way to talk about Matt Lafleur and

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Speaker 1: given him credit for his individual success these last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, how much he meant to him personally, And

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Speaker 1: it's clear, like you say what you wanted about Aaron Rodgers,

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00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: he was not faking that. He has a lot of

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Speaker 1: love towards La Fleur. Clearly his relationship with McCarthy, Aaron

624
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: couldn't stand him a meathead in an intellect, it didn't work.

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00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: This relationship with La Flour really works. Literally on the field,

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Speaker 1: they win a ton of games. Rodgers is, you know,

627
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: racking up m v ps, their offense is dominating, their

628
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: hosting playoff games. But it does feel like Rogers kind

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00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: of had his mind made up. And you know, Colin

630
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: used to say this a lot, like there's no happy,

631
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: happier and sometimes like it's just as good as you get.

632
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: But as human beings, you know, I can speak for guys.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we just you know, we just believe there is

634
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: or we're just you know, kind of stubborn with like

635
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: we want to do something else, whether it's right or wrong.

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Speaker 1: When we get our mind made up, you know, it

637
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Speaker 1: just there's no turning back once we get something in

638
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Speaker 1: our head, no matter who around us tries to talk

639
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: us out of it, that maybe this isn't a good idea,

640
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: Like take a deep breath, relax, because I know I

641
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: can speak for myself, like, once I get it into

642
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: my head, I'm ready to roll. And I just wonder

643
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: if Aaron, you know, the Gudakins thing was an easy

644
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: out for him. It was kind of saying that, you know,

645
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: I hate this guy. I want out, And we tried

646
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: to break it down, like what what was. It was

647
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: hard to really get concrete evidence what there was. And

648
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: as the season went on it was like, you know,

649
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: they're good, they're actually buddies. Now they're friends, and obviously

650
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: he loves the coach. But maybe Aaron just had his

651
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: mind up. He just wants to leave Green Bay. And

652
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: sometimes it might just be as simple as that. I

653
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: don't want to live here anymore. I don't want to

654
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: live here anymore. I know I'm going through that right now.

655
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to live here anymore. I'm just ready

656
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: to go. Whether that's right or wrong, I don't know.

657
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: Only time will tell, But my mind's made up. I

658
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: don't want to be here anymore. And if you're Aaron Rodgers,

659
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: you got well, they'll pay me a lot of money too.

660
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: I'll be on a team and we'll win a bunch

661
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: of games, so it's not like I gotta take a

662
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: pay cut. And two, I can live in a city

663
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: where I want to live. I actually think that's kind

664
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: of relatable. Again, it might not be the right football move,

665
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: but once you get your mind made up, you know,

666
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Speaker 1: especially if you're a stubborn, headstrong guy, which clearly he is.

667
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any looking back. I mean, I

668
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: I think the it'll be a shocking story. I'll be

669
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: stunned if Aaron Rodgers is not on the Denver Broncos.

670
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I fully expect it now, whether that's just

671
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: me reading the internet, but I don't see how you

672
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: could watch his m v P speech, the way he

673
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: talked to the floor and really the organization is kind

674
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: of a goodbye and not believe now it might be

675
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: a different team, but it just feels like Nathaniel Hackett.

676
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: They hired him because that's Rogers guy U. C. Davis,

677
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: another intellect neural biology major at U. C. Davis. I

678
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Speaker 1: see them seeing on the same page, and I think

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Speaker 1: the only thing that might even cause give him a

680
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: little pause would be La Flour. But I don't know

681
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: if that's enough. I think he's just ready to be

682
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Speaker 1: m s question answered here in the show. Start with

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Speaker 1: Nick born and raised in Seattle, now love and life

695
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Speaker 1: living in the Carolinas. Always kind of wanted to go

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Speaker 1: to Carolinas. Graduated four years at e w U Eastern

697
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Speaker 1: Washington University, the same four years as Cooper cup was

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Speaker 1: their plan. Loved watching him. I always thought he would

699
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: be great. We see him breaking all these records. I

700
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: feel he isn't even being talked about by the media.

701
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: Is his personality what we need to do to become

702
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: more of a household name semi fool ball fans here

703
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: in Charlotte. I don't even know who he is. Well,

704
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Speaker 1: he's a He's super Bowl m v P. You know

705
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Speaker 1: he's he won a super Bowl m v P. So

706
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes, like, you know, if you're worth your salt,

707
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Speaker 1: who cares what other people are saying about you? I

708
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Speaker 1: mean honestly, So it's like DeAndre Hopkins and Keenan Allen

709
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Speaker 1: get talked about like you want a super Bowl mv P.

710
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: You've been on a team that's now been a multiple

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. You've been on a team that won a

712
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You've been on a team that wins a

713
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: bunch of playoff games, that's all you know. You get

714
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Speaker 1: the respect of your peers. Um. I don't know what

715
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: what it is, but he's a stud I I honestly,

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00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: I think I've said this before. I think I said

717
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: this on the pod the other night. Is not that

718
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: I disrespected him. I I undervalued how good he was

719
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: and there is still as someone that can. I can

720
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: consume sports from the couch with the best of them.

721
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: I am the Tom Brady of watching sports from the couch.

722
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: I could dominate I I knew I was good at it,

723
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: and I turned into a living But there are things

724
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: that you miss that when you go to a game,

725
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: specifically in my opinion, in basketball and football, that you

726
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: just do not pick up at home. Like golf. I

727
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: watch a lot of PGA Tour golf. I've been to

728
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: a lot of golf events. You don't see anything. Kind

729
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: of sucks. This is the waste management. You're getting plastered.

730
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: Then it's fun. But in a football game and a

731
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: basketball game, especially if you've got good seats, you learned

732
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: thing about players, you really do. It's why historically a

733
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: lot of teams, gms and coaches signed guys that give

734
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: their team trouble because when you experience it, it's a

735
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: different feeling. And when I watched him in that Week

736
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: eight team game, I went, I've been watching I've been

737
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: coming to NFL games long enough to know this dude's

738
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: a stud. Now, obviously his numbers were already awesome, but

739
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, he not that he needed to earn my respect,

740
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: but I I would. I'd argue that dude any day

741
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: that week. Now he's he's a bawler, a big Raider

742
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: fan as a as a Raider fan, of course, I'm

743
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: back and forth with Derek. I think we kind of

744
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: know who he is. And his cap by now probably

745
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: better than most quarterbacks in the league, but still just

746
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: slightly better than average. So here's my question. If the

747
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: Raiders wanted to make a splash trade in trade for

748
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, what do you think the compensation looks like

749
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Is it easy as car Abram's and

750
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: a first or do you think they would want more.

751
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone wants Jonathan Abram. I don't think

752
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: he has much value in Seattle. You know, they got

753
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: this guy that they kind of overspent the money. Actually

754
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: they didn't pay him that much money. I think everyone

755
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: freaked out his contract, but they gave up two first

756
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: round picks and a second Jamal Adams, who is basically

757
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: a better version of Jonathan Abram. I think the deal,

758
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: if that was even an option, would be something like

759
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Derek and two ones for Russell Wilson. I mean, Russell

760
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Wilson's the first ballot Hall of Famer. Derek's played in

761
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: one playoff game. I like Derek, but he and he's

762
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: only a couple of years younger in Russell. I think

763
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Speaker 1: it would be two ones and Derek, because if you

764
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Speaker 1: say Derek's worth you know, two ones, I think that

765
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: would be I think Derek would get you two ones

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Speaker 1: or at least a one in a couple of twos. No,

767
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean ship if Jamal Adams get you two ones

768
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: and a two, yeah Derek, So they're going right for

769
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in my opinion before once so Derek and

770
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Speaker 1: two once boom. It doesn't feel like that's gonna happen.

771
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Speaker 1: I've been a Chief fan my whole existence, and really

772
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: curious is what you're what they're gonna do this offseason

773
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: to recover from the heartbreaking a f C title loss.

774
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 1: They are so talented and I don't think they would

775
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: do as bad other teams in their following years after

776
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: losing a conference championship. But my concern is Andy an

777
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: amazing coach in Hall of Famer, but I just don't

778
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: think we play to our maximum level. We see other

779
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: teams around the league going younger on their coaching staff,

780
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: and it ends wonders in McVeigh, Shanahan, Zach Taylor, buddon

781
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay when Rogers head McCarthy not nearly as good

782
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: as Casey's personnel. Yeah, I'm gonna push back on this.

783
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Andy reas elite. He's taking you guys to

784
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: multiple Super Bowls. He won your franchise of Super Bowl. Now,

785
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: that game to Cincinnati sucked, but I watched him come

786
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: back after losing a devastating game at home to Belichick

787
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: and Brady, and you guys won the Super Bowl the

788
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: next year. And then you guys won the Super Bowl,

789
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: and you went back to the Super Bowl and it

790
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: was just a bad matchup. You were missing your two tackles.

791
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: And then after losing the Super Bowl boom, you guys

792
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: were hosting the FC championship game again. So to me,

793
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: part of the reason, moving off Mike McCarthy win Green Bay.

794
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: He wasn't good enough. You know, part of the reason

795
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: they got McVeigh and Shanahan is they had Chip Kelly

796
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: and Jeff Fisher. All Andy Andy does for you guys,

797
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: win and wins big, big. It's as good as you

798
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: guys have ever had it ever. So I'm bighast, But

799
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Speaker 1: come on, what are we talking about here? Do you

800
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: believe the Raiders having Josh McDaniels is gonna give a

801
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: boost to Derek Carr? If you play fantasy football Dynasty

802
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: and you've got a top three pick, who are the

803
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: top guys you think? I would say Mahomes? I mean,

804
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: depending on Rogers, goes Rogers and probably like Herbert or Lamar.

805
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: Now I does Dynasty? Does that factor in youth? I'm

806
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: not I'm not a big fantasy football player beside daily fantasy,

807
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: but that would be my answer. Uh. Do you think

808
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: that McDaniel in Miami could have gotten more out of

809
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: the Niners offense with Tuah or Jimmy this season? How

810
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: is it that he in Miami? Do you think? Yeah?

811
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if Kyle Shanahan had to up to a

812
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: would look better than he looked in Miami, right, because

813
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: the Niners have more skill guys, they have of a

814
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: better running game, they have George Kittle, who's better than Koseki,

815
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: and they have Debot. You now, Waddle is pretty good,

816
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: but Devils better. Now? Is Mike McDaniel gonna be a

817
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: good head coach? I don't know. I'm rooting for him,

818
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: lovely little guy, but only time will tell. Now that

819
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: Dave Getleman is no longer the GM for the Giants

820
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: after completely ruining the Carolina Panthers, do you think he

821
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: ever gets another NFL opportunity? Big fan fall in since eighteen? Uh?

822
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm pretty sure. Isn't Dave Getleman like in

823
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: his mid sixties too? Uh? And as Phil Savage once

824
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: famously told me, most general managers get one shot, So

825
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman getting multiple shots is pretty nuts And the

826
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Speaker 1: only way he got to say, Dave Getleman seventy years old.

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Speaker 1: So the answer is no, Not that you know he

828
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Speaker 1: would get three g M opportunities, but if the Giants

829
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 1: in the maras and know the guy, he never would

830
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: have been hired as a general manager. Again, you make

831
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: my two hour drive easy. Appreciate it. How do you

832
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: I'm a big Carolina fan in Minnesota. The NFC South

833
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: is wide open now that Peyton and Brady have retired.

834
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: What can Carolina do to make a run next year?

835
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: In the future. Pickett is not our guy. I hope

836
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: if you were the GM would what would you do

837
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: to make us a contender for the next year or

838
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: years to come? Thank you again for being a guy

839
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: of the people. Also, I live for draft season. If

840
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: you ever need assistance in the future for scouting prospects,

841
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: I would love to help you. No cost. No, we

842
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: don't do. We pay. We pay for services. Where I

843
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: come from, we do not like a free work. Uh.

844
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: I would say Carolina is number one issue by a country.

845
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Mile is quarterback play and listen. I gotta take the ellen.

846
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I thought he was gonna be a good value.

847
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: I wanted the Niner to trade for. He was a

848
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: fucking utter disaster last year. He's like a poor man's

849
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston to me, if you could just get him

850
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: like he was a bottom seven eight quarterback in the NFL,

851
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: he was terrible. Now I'm biased sc guy, West Coast guy.

852
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: I want to root for Sam Donald, but just watching

853
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: him play football last year was disgusting. I mean, it

854
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: was really really hard to watch and not It's not

855
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: like he's not tough. It's not like he just so

856
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: reckless with the football. He makes terrible decisions. Can they

857
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: coach that out of him? Maybe a little bit. To me,

858
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: if they could just have him be a top eighteen

859
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL instead of the bottom I said,

860
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: bottom seven. He might have been my bottom, like three

861
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: or four. Why couldn't they win eight nine games? Their

862
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: defense is actually pretty good now. Christian McCaffrey, who is

863
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: elite when he's on the field, gets hurt a lot.

864
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: So if somehow they can just keep Christian McCaffrey on

865
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: the field, somehow turned this guy's turnovers and just just

866
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: bring him back to earth a little bit. I know

867
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: he missed a bunch of games, but I feel like

868
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: Sam Donald had a bunch of picks. Now here's the

869
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: other thing. They fired Joe Brady mid season. Sam Donald

870
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: thirteen interceptions. Holy moly, I'm pretty sure he played like

871
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: ten games Sam Donald played in. He started eleven games.

872
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: I guess he got hurt in one, so that's bad. Yeah,

873
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: to meet Christian McCaffrey, the new offensive coordinator, is it?

874
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Did they hired McAdoo And I think they hired McAdoo.

875
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say about McAdoo. Mcadoo's first year in

876
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: New York ELI was awesome and the Giants offense with

877
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham was sweet. Joe Brady, let's face it wrote

878
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: a media hype train. I don't did I ask Eddie

879
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: l about Joe Brady. I don't think I did. But

880
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Brady became this like mythological figure who

881
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: couldn't really call plays and couldn't impact the quarterback. So

882
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's just gonna come down to, can McAdoo

883
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: just get Saam Donald to play under control? Ben McAdoo,

884
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's the offensive coordinator. Ben McAdoo. Where's

885
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: he coaching? Remember Ben McAdoo changed his Yeah, Carolina Panthers

886
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. One thing with the Green Bay guys, they

887
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: all kind of stick together. He was McCarthy's guy, then

888
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: he went to the Giants, then they fired him, and

889
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: then somehow he was a consultant for the Dallas Cowboys

890
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: and now he's an offensive coordinator. Everyone made fun of

891
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: Ben mcadoo's year getting rehired I don't think it's that crazy.

892
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm reading right now. McAdoo joined Tom Coughlin staff staff

893
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: as the O C in two thousand fourteen. In his

894
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: first season as the offensive coordinator, the Giants improved from

895
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: the scoring offense in thirteen to the thirteenth and fourteen,

896
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: and then in two thousand and fifteen the offense took

897
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: another leap forward, becoming the sixth highest scoring offense despite

898
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: losing left tackle and Victor Cruz Like, talk about all

899
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: the status you want, do you score fucking points? And

900
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: I vividly remember Eli Manning Odell Beckham scoring some points.

901
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: So now do they have Odell Beckham? They don't, But DG.

902
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: Moore is pretty good. And if you can keep McCaffrey

903
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: on the field, maybe draft some offensive talent. Obviously Sam

904
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: Donald is not Eli Manning, but if he makes elim

905
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: or Sam Donald just a functional guy. Don't sleep on

906
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: Ben magadoo. But you were definitely one of my favorites.

907
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: I'm by no means NeXT's nose guys with football, I'm

908
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: not either. I have been watching my whole life, but

909
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: never played past middle school. I don't get the philosophy

910
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: teams took to cover Cooper Cup. Why didn't the Bengals

911
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: give him the Megatron treatment Once Odell Beckham Jr. Went down?

912
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: He towards them the whole fourth quarter and was pretty

913
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: much their entire offense. I just don't get why they

914
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: don't double him off the bat Well. I'm not a

915
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: defensive coach, and I'm definitely not a defensive schematic guy.

916
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: But if you're just playing basic human beings right, especially

917
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, and I put two

918
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: guys over the over the top of Cooper Cup, well one,

919
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: the rules have kind of changed. It's harder to be

920
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: like Richard Sherman level physical Who are the Bengals corners,

921
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: Eli Apple and some other random guy? If Cooper Cup

922
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: finds a way to split those two guys or anyone

923
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: else on the field, Van Jefferson and some of those

924
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: random tight ends they have get open the white dude

925
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame Scargerwick, you got problems. So I I

926
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: have no problem doing bracket coverages, but I do think

927
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: just putting two guys on them in the red zone

928
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: it might make some sense. Should they have done that

929
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: on the game winning touchdown? For sure, put two guys

930
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: on them You're not just gonna run a basic fade

931
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: that that was too easy? What are we doing? But

932
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: to me throughout the entire field, I think you just

933
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: gotta bring a safety over and basically have the corner

934
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: trail them underneath with a safety over the top. Like Matt,

935
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: you gotta make a miraculous throw. But I think doubling

936
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: him at the line of scrimmage with two guys kind

937
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: of like a punt is pretty risky when you're talking

938
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: about I mean, Cooper cup might be a Hall of Famer,

939
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: so if he's able to kind of get loose one,

940
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: you're also giving up numbers other places. It's I do

941
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: understand the risk the red zone and the game winning touchdown,

942
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: for sure, But I've been saying that for weeks and

943
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: no team can cover him. The Niners couldn't cover him twice,

944
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: The Bucks couldn't cover him. The advanced Joseph couldn't dream

945
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: of covering him. You know, I don't know. It's just

946
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: maybe every defensive coach is an idiot, or maybe it's

947
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: actually harder than you think. I saw this stat today

948
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: that the forty Niners five losses in two thousand twelve.

949
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: They lost to the New York Giants. New York Giants

950
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl in two thirteen, they lost to

951
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: the Ravens in the Super Bowl. In twos fourteen, they

952
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: lost to Seattle in the Conference Championship. Seattle won the

953
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in two thousand nineteen. They lost the Chiefs

954
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. In two they lost the Ramps,

955
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: who are Super Bowl champs. So if you beat the Niners,

956
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna win the Super Bowl in the playoffs, you know. Um,

957
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: you got that going for you. Last question, I was

958
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: catching up on some old three and out pods and

959
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: I heard you mentioned Brett Farves three m VP awards.

960
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm too young, but I've heard debates that Barry Sanders

961
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: should have won the award in outright. Instead we have

962
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: the first co m VPS. It's a good you know,

963
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old. Uh. I can't speak to

964
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: that season in terms of I mean, those guys are

965
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: clearly the two best players in the league, you know,

966
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: two of probably the best five. I mean, there're two

967
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: of the greatest players ever. I'm bringing up Barry's seven

968
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: season wasn't bad. He had two thousand yards, he had

969
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns, he averaged six yards an attempt. He caught

970
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: thirty three balls and also at three touchdowns. Best season

971
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: of his career. You know, it's pretty crazy, is that

972
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders from till eighteen hundred yards, fifte d yards,

973
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred yards, two thousand yards, fifteen hundred yards. Then

974
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: he retired thirty years old. He won the m v P,

975
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: played one more year and then retired. That's pretty freaking nuts.

976
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing with Barry Sanders, who honestly might

977
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: be underrated. He won an m v P, and he

978
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: finished second in the MVP Award another time, and he

979
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: fished finished third another time. That's pretty wild. He was

980
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: an All pro one two, three, four, five, six seven

981
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: means one of the greatest careers ever. But at bro

982
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: was pretty freaking good. Also, Trayvon Dix comparing the interception

983
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: yards two yards allowed, does this impact lean positive or

984
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: negative interceptions? Got to take the cake over the yards allowed? Right?

985
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: Obviously he made the Pro Bowl. But that's all rigged

986
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: anyway to me part. I know he gave up a

987
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: lot of yards. I think it was like a historic

988
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: amount of yards. But when you have whatever did what

989
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: do you have eleven interceptions and didn't He also have

990
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: like five or six pick sixes, so he literally scored

991
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns he had. Diggs was awarded he had eleven interceptions.

992
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: How many touchdowns he have he had two touchdowns. I

993
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I mean, I know he's you know,

994
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: got some issues in terms of man to man coverage,

995
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: But the guy makes the place. I can live with playmakers. Man.

996
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: When I was with Philly, we had Assante Asante gave

997
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: him some big plays, also picked the ball off a lot.

998
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters drive you nuts. Dude causes fumbles and picks

999
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: the ball off. This guy gives up some plays, makes

1000
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: him place. Ultimately, I want playmakers. Now what I like

1001
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: just two consistent every down Durell Reevis. Of course, how

1002
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: many Durell reevis is are coming around? News flash? Not many.

1003
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: So if I had to go just an average corner

1004
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: or this dude, I'd go with this dude. Now is

1005
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: he gonna Is he gonna have three straight years of

1006
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: seven eight picks? Because if he does, if next year

1007
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: he gets one pick and he's given up all those yards,

1008
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: then we got issues. But if every year he's gonna

1009
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: give me seven eight turnovers, I can live with some

1010
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: given up touchdowns. Especially I have a loaded offense, I'm

1011
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: gonna score. Does he give my offensive, my offense more possessions,

1012
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: because this isn't that the goal. If I have a

1013
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: big time offense, which the Cowboys do in theory, and

1014
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: I keep and I get more possessions than you over

1015
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: the course of the season, I'm gonna score more points

1016
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: than my opponent, and I'm gonna have a winning record,

1017
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna to the playoffs. Like the point of

1018
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: the game. I think sometimes the analytical elites, as I

1019
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: call him overthink this whole thing. It's literally to score

1020
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: more points than the opponent. One thing Belichick. I mean,

1021
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: I've never met the guy, but just people that have

1022
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: been around him and just listen to books about his philosophy.

1023
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: He's big on the red zone, like that He's consumed

1024
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: with the red zone during the week of practice, during

1025
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: their preparation because that's where you fucking score. And if

1026
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: his defense can give up five yards a game, but

1027
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: be a bottom you know, be one of the best

1028
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: scoring defense. Is a k not give up that many points.

1029
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna win more games and he loses. All that

1030
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: matters is you know, holding you to field goals to

1031
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: the touchdowns, holding you two punts instead of being in

1032
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: field goal range. Because ultimately, if I'm gonna score more

1033
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: points than you, like, that is the point of this

1034
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: whole sport. The reason the Rams are Super Bowl champs.

1035
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: They scored more points then Cincinnati Bengals. Like I think

1036
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: on the most basic premise of just athletics, and now

1037
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: with the with the numbers and everyone who get dives

1038
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: in and all, some of this stuff really does matter.

1039
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: But ultimately the only thing that matters, especially in football

1040
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: is points. How many points do you score? How many

1041
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: points do you allow? I mean the I know, engulf

1042
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: all the strokes, strokes gained off the te strokes gained

1043
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, uh with your eye or stroke gain on

1044
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: the green, Like do you know what I care about?

1045
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: What's your scoring average? How many birdies do you have

1046
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: a tournament? How many cuts are you making? Like it's

1047
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: just I think sometimes we overcom complicate some pretty basic things,

1048
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: and I truly just care about, like, you know, is

1049
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: ultimately there you know, defense in Dallas, is it gonna

1050
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: come back to earth or are just they gonna be

1051
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: kind of a feast famine team. Well, if they're a

1052
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: Feast and Famine team and they're scoring. Defense is pretty good,

1053
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: then I got no issue with it. Audio else, have

1054
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: a great week. Peace the volume