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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August twenty six, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number thirty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are lacking st WBC Mortgage studios at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Got Nick Amber and Dave with me. We're talking to

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Speaker 1: Cowboys football here with you guys for the next hour.

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Speaker 1: A lot to get into. Cowboys get a big win.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you can call a preseason game a

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Speaker 1: big win. But they do blow the pants off of

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans thirty four to nothing. We're gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about that, talk about some of the standout players.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to go back through a list that

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Speaker 1: I threw out to you guys on Friday about some

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Speaker 1: of the some of the bubble guys, some of the

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Speaker 1: battles that were happening, and see if in any of

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Speaker 1: if that affected any of those battles in your perspective. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's start first, though, with a little bit of blanket coverage.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done this in a while. I have a

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Speaker 1: few statements for you. Still training camp, still training camp.

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Speaker 1: I have a few statements for you guys, and I'll

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Speaker 1: the first statement. Dallas has dallass looked pretty good during

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Speaker 1: the preseason, extremely polished versus Houston with teams limiting their starters.

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Speaker 1: with you, Amber, um do whisper over there? We say

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Speaker 1: it again, just that last sentence part again. What I'd

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Speaker 1: say from the Dallas performance is okay, performance a performances.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry because I'm looking at this from the standpoint

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Speaker 1: of this game and the last game preseason. What I

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Speaker 1: the different elements that they have, the different guys. Seeing

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Speaker 1: you know, because you know what the Cowboys tend to

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Speaker 1: positive about Kellen Moore and what he's able He's been

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Speaker 1: us everything that he's got. I'm excited, Dave sweet sweet relief, okay,

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Speaker 1: and a variety of ways. But most importantly, you know,

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Speaker 1: we got through the meat of the preseason with no

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Speaker 1: On top of that, the offense and defense both looked

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Speaker 1: three healthy months, there's no telling what it could mean

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Speaker 1: for him and for this defense. Tony Pollard. You know

428
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Speaker 1: what's crazy about sorry about him is that despite the

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Speaker 1: success he's been having so far, he's not allowing that

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Speaker 1: to get into his head. And it's weird because I

431
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Speaker 1: know he doesn't necessarily want to be talking to the media.

432
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Speaker 1: He thinks that he's going to be criticized. I'm like, dude,

433
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Speaker 1: criticize like you've been having a great training camp. You know,

434
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Speaker 1: you've been doing so well. But I think that that's

435
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Speaker 1: a good thing coming from him, that he keeps you

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Speaker 1: grounded and keeps him kind of focused on what he

437
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Speaker 1: needs to do instead of allowing this success to get

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Speaker 1: into his head and maybe messing up his game a

439
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Speaker 1: little bit. I think he's the most low key player

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Speaker 1: on this team. Like even like we talk all the

441
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Speaker 1: time about how Tyrant Smith's not a big talker, MALIEK.

442
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: Collins is more low key than that. I'm not one

443
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Speaker 1: hundred percent sure I know what its voice sounds like.

444
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: And I've covered his entire And then the minute that

445
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Speaker 1: Dak and his agent and the Cowboys shake hands and

446
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Speaker 1: take the picture and with the jersey and all that stuff,

447
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Speaker 1: whenever that deal's done, they're gonna be back on the phone.

448
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Speaker 1: Before too long because he's he also represents Malik, so

449
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Speaker 1: you know they'll be trying to maybe get a deal

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Speaker 1: done with him. But the way Malik is is playing

451
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Speaker 1: right now, he seems like he could be He would

452
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Speaker 1: be a top ten free agent guy next year. I

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Speaker 1: think if if, if he didn't get draft, if he

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Speaker 1: did get signed, and yet he has the potential to

455
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Speaker 1: be one of those like kind of out of nowhere

456
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Speaker 1: major free agents, a lot like Jason Hatcher. I mean,

457
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: he's younger than Hatcher was because Hatcher signed a deal

458
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: here too, But yeah, I mean he could. He could

459
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Speaker 1: get really good money if he can put together like

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber season. Talk to me about Tony Pollard.

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00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: He had a six six rushing yard I mean sorry,

462
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: six receptions for twenty six rushing yards four point three average.

463
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Speaker 1: What do you think of him? Somebody, somebody stopped me

464
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Speaker 1: from acting a fool here. Somebody go first, because I

465
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: don't want to do this, like I don't want to

466
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Speaker 1: be the guy that buys the preseason hype. But man,

467
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: he's fun. He looks so damn impressive and he looks

468
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: like he gets it and you know, back him during

469
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: the drifts like well, they can't ask this guy to

470
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Speaker 1: run through the tackles, and then he's rockets up the

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Speaker 1: depth chart of training camp. And it's like I said

472
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Speaker 1: that last night, somebody asked me on Twitter's like the reason,

473
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, at least the reason Darius Jackson and

474
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Speaker 1: Mike Weber kind of fell by the wayside, in my opinion,

475
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: is a week into training camp, they're like, all right,

476
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Speaker 1: let's bring Pollard along and we'll see where this goes.

477
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: And maybe he can do this and maybe he can

478
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Speaker 1: do that, but we've got these other guys we want

479
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Speaker 1: to see too, And like by the time the Blue

480
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: White scrimmage rolled around, it was like, never mind, we're good,

481
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Speaker 1: Like we're fine, especially if Zeke comes back. Like we

482
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Speaker 1: don't need just i mean, no offense to those guys,

483
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Speaker 1: but a guy just for the sake of having a guy,

484
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Speaker 1: because Tony Pollard can do all of that, and every

485
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: time he gets an opportunity, he's shown that ability. I

486
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: will say, when the starting Houston defense was in it

487
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: looked a little bit tougher for him. I mean he

488
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: was averaging like one yard per carry on the you know,

489
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Speaker 1: while JJ Watt was in there. But he's got patience,

490
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: he's got explosiveness. That twenty yard run he had where

491
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: he basically sort of tap danced in the hole until

492
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Speaker 1: something came open, I mean that was beautiful. Yeah, And

493
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Speaker 1: the screen pass that was called back for the Jason

494
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Speaker 1: Witten's blocking the back, I mean, I thought he did

495
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Speaker 1: a nice job there of you talked to about the

496
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: patience of kind of waiting for the blockers to come

497
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Speaker 1: and then you know, to get past them and then

498
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: you know, using the angles. And I really think if

499
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Speaker 1: there wasn't a penalty, I think they would have had

500
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: to replay that and see did he actually get into

501
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: the you know and touch the pilon looked like he did.

502
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: You know, it might have been a touchdown play. But

503
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: I do think Jason Witten his blocks were the legal

504
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: and there was like knocked out two guys there, so

505
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have scored without it.

506
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not ready to, Like, I don't want to

507
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Speaker 1: be the guy that's like they don't need Zeke because

508
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: I know how good Zeke is. But like watching this dude,

509
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Speaker 1: I'm like mixing a little Alfred Morris with what this

510
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: guy's doing, and like I'm intrigued, like mixing Zeke with

511
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Speaker 1: what Yeah, I know, Yeah, I'm not trying to fire

512
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: the guy. I'm just saying like I'm I'm intrigued, Like

513
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: he looks so much better than I would have even thought.

514
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: And that was I mean, Steven Jones compared him to

515
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara the day they drafted him. But saying it

516
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: and doing it is different, and he looks impressive. Jimsy

517
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: a different a different feel like he doesn't have that

518
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: bulkiness that Zeke has and he's not gonna be able

519
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: to push against those defenders and get those extra yards.

520
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: But I feel he looks light, like he moves around

521
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: with something like a little feather like. I don't know

522
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: if I'm not doing a very good job describing this,

523
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: but you know, he's able to move around and make

524
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: those cuts like Nick said, and it's just you get

525
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: a little taste of what Zeke can do for you

526
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: in a way. You know they're using him in the

527
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: passing game, they're using in the running game, so but

528
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: it's just at a different level. And to see him

529
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: this early in the stage that he's at, it's it's

530
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: so encouraging that he's able to do all these things

531
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Speaker 1: this early on. Yeah, that's one of the things that

532
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: I've been talking about that can be the risk for

533
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: Zeke here if he decides he wants to try missing

534
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: a game. The risk here is that Tony Pollard actually

535
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: looks pretty good and can give them something. And again,

536
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be Zeke, nor does he necessarily have to.

537
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: I made this point to somebody online a little bit earlier,

538
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: and I think it's actually something a topic we're going

539
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: to bring up maybe later this week. You know, what

540
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: do you think is going to be the best thing

541
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys do this season? I am starting more

542
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: and more to believe it's going to be defense. And

543
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: if it is defense, then you may not need Zeke

544
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: to carry the same load that he once had to

545
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: carry for this team. Having a guy like Pollard that

546
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: can hit some home runs for you, even if he's

547
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: not as consistently the guy that just basically bulls through

548
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: people some of the runs that you see from Zeke,

549
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: you may still get what you need out of this

550
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: running game just to be good enough, and good enough

551
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean good enough to still be a legitimate playoff team.

552
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: And then you see where it goes in the playoffs.

553
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: So my only point is I'm not ready to buy

554
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: the hype, like you said in the preseason. What I

555
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: do think though, is it does create a little bit

556
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: more intrigue with this whole Zeke thing and how long

557
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: he's willing to hold out to next point. And y'all

558
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: know me, like I'm a contrarian for I'm the worst.

559
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: I know that about myself. Like as much as part

560
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: of me wants to see that, like I kind of

561
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: want to see what it would look like. Just how

562
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: good can Tony Pollard and Alfred Morispy, Like how much

563
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: do they really need Zeke at the same time everything

564
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: you just said, how much better would it be if

565
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: it was Zeke and Pollard, No doubt. Let's just not

566
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: mess around with it. Bring get the band back together.

567
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: And we've seen Zeke you know, in fourth down and

568
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, in the fourth quarters and overtime and that

569
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Speaker 1: play against Green Bay where he had to you know,

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00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: get the ball out there too, you know for a

571
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: first down. Those are the things that after you know,

572
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: getting pounded on for four quarters, he still is able

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00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: to do that. And you don't know, really a Pollard

574
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: can do that and get you know, take these big hits,

575
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: keep going. He's got an ankle problem, but he's still

576
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: fighting through it the whole game, carrying guys on his back.

577
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: Let's see how that. Um, you know, if that's what

578
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: in every down back is supposed to do and he

579
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to prove as it. If he can

580
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: do that or he can't, yeah, I will throw out this.

581
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: Though a lot of people try to give the comparison

582
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: to Alvin Kamara, you can look over there in Carolina

583
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: and see a guy like this who's carrying the loaf

584
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: for his team and Christian McCaffrey. He's a smaller guy,

585
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: but he can catch out of the backfield, he can

586
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: make him do a lot of dynamic different things, and

587
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: he is their primary back. So this is not unheard

588
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: of in the NFL for a guy with this body

589
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: type to be the every down type guy. Again, you're

590
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: not gonna believe it until you see it, but I

591
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: do think there's enough there right now that gets you

592
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: intrigued right big time. All right, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: about some of the bubble guys what not than just

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00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I know how Dallas b Houston. It's like the greatest

640
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: thing in your life. No, it's not, don't I would

641
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: hope necessarily, I would hope. Nobody in Derek's life is

642
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: like giving him grief about a preseason. They do, though

643
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of talk. It's not bad though.

644
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I just texted my cousin. He's like, we're really close

645
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: and he's a big Texans fan and uh and so

646
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: I just kind of texted him in the third quarter

647
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: like seriously, like, I know it's the preseason, but it

648
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: is it kind of that's the kind of relationship we

649
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: have because I guarantee if it was happening to us, Oh,

650
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: of course he'd hit me up and been like, seriously,

651
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: y'all could have stayed in Dallas, but this is well

652
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: the worst thing for Houston because not only did they

653
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: get trounced by the Cowboys, but they lost their starting

654
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, the only thing the good that

655
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: it came out of that night is that they've got

656
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: two games against the Colts that might be easier than

657
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: they were going to be, right maybe. Yeah, And on

658
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: the flip side, I mean that's what he said. He said, well,

659
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: at the winner of this division just needs to go

660
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: eight and eight basically like this is. It got pretty

661
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: bad tonight. But I mean, rightfully, so if if the

662
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys were losing thirty four to nothing, no matter what

663
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: the game was, fans would be losing their minds. Yeah,

664
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's preseason or not. I think fans

665
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: just don't like the idea of getting trounced like that.

666
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: Just pride should take over at some point, just like

667
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna win the fight. If we're not gonna win, right,

668
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: you could take a step back. No, Like, nobody should

669
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: ever lose their minds about anything that happens in a

670
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: prese game except for injuries. R which is my whole point. Well,

671
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: they had a little bit of that too. No, no, no,

672
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: if I was a Houston fan, I would be I would, well,

673
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: I'd be pissed because my starting running back was heard,

674
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: not because they lost thirty four to nothing, right, just

675
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: insult to injury. Right, Yeah, all right, let's go through

676
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: some of these guys that were on the bubble and uh,

677
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: as we laid it out Friday, I basically gave you

678
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: an either or um and let you guys then tell

679
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: me who you think had the inside track. And what

680
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: I want to know now is based on what you

681
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: saw this Saturday, who do you think as the inside track?

682
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the safety position. Donovan Wilson

683
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: versus Cavon Frazier. Don's on the team, Yeah, I mean,

684
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean Cavon won't be we go five,

685
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: you think they'll go five? Noyon's gonna have to be

686
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: Darian Thompson. So you don't think Darian Thompson. No, that's

687
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: where they had he that's the battle now, the interception.

688
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: But Donovan Wilson, plus the fact that he's been playing

689
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: great and he's around the ball, he's on the team.

690
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: For Cavan to make the team is is he's going

691
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: to have to be better than Dari and Thompson. And

692
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's you told me last week, Daron, Well,

693
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: I just changed very quickly. I disagree with you. The

694
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: point of what I meant was, I don't know. If

695
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, I if I guess, I don't think

696
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Cavon's gonna make this team. If he makes the team,

697
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: it's because for some reason, somebody makes an executive decision

698
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 1: that they're going to keep five safeties because I think

699
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: the other four are basically set in stone and kind

700
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: of pity, and so maybe Cavon can play his way

701
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: on because he's so valuable on special teams, or he's

702
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: a valuable character guy. I don't know, but he's him

703
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: and whoever else you want to throw in there, I

704
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: local whatever, Like they're going to have to convince somebody

705
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: that they have to have five safeties, which they haven't

706
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: been doing recently. You have better corners, so I mean,

707
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: that wouldn't make sense, and you're you're stuck in a

708
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: situation where you probably want to keep six corners, which

709
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: is don't see five safeties on this team. But I know,

710
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: like Woods, Heath, Thompson and Wilson, like I'm very comfortable,

711
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: like write that down, all right, So let's talk about

712
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: those corners Donovan Olumba versus Mike Jackson Amber. You know

713
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: what I'm struggling with here. It's easy to evaluate someone

714
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: based on recent memory of the past week or so.

715
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: But what, okay question for you guys, when you guys

716
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: evaluate these guys, do you base it up on what's

717
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: happened recently or just overall since we start a training

718
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: camp both? Right? Yeah, because I think Devin Smith is

719
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: a good example of more recent is probably a part

720
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: of the equation than just the whole body of work.

721
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: But I think all of it gets factory, at least

722
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: for me because look at it because more recently it's

723
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: also been more games. I mean, because you could say

724
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: John v. Johnson has been pretty good on the course

725
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: of the whole summer, but the last couple of games,

726
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, he's dropped off. So I would

727
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: say recently is gets weighed in here full body of

728
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: work with a bias toward what happened recently. That's the

729
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: way I think of it. Yeah, Yeah, that's what that

730
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: being said. What do you think about the cornerbacks? Yeah?

731
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: What are you trying to get to the fact that

732
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: you're leaning more toward Alumba because of that, I think so. Yeah,

733
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: But again that's that's just kind of the struggle I'm

734
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: having to, like, Okay, do I base it on upon

735
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: like recent excitement or just be fair and lay it

736
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: all out and see the progression of everything how it's

737
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: been evolving. But I mean, right now where I stand at,

738
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I think Colomba for me, I would argue Alumba has

739
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: been better on both counts, Like he's clearly been better

740
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: down the stretch, but I like overall and Mike Jackson

741
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: had some nice practices in California, but like you take

742
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: the whole five weeks that we've been doing this, I

743
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: think Alumba has been better overall too. Yeah, I don't.

744
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't think Alumba's actually going against Mike Jackson anymore.

745
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: I really think he's going up against another position. The

746
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: end of that piece, one of those it's at the

747
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: end of the roster and you're trying to decide between

748
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: six corners or do you keep you know, six receivers

749
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: maybe And when you get to that part, yeah, I will.

750
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm working on something about the practice squad, just like

751
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: real quick before you get to that. Just to clarify,

752
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Nick are you saying you think Mike Jackson's already on

753
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: this team and Alma he's off the team, and you

754
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: think Alma's the guy that's kind of their teetering. I

755
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 1: think between him in another position, do they keep six

756
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: corners or do they keep you know, five, because the

757
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: fifth corner of C. J. Goodwin, who is a great

758
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: special teams player, and he had a nice play on

759
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: defense at night, and if he doesn't get that interception,

760
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson gets it, so maybe maybe, but he was

761
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: right there. Anything like with Mike, you know, for me recently,

762
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: when I watch him and he'll he'll make a good

763
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: play or something or do something good, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

764
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: he's I forgot about him. He's still here. So that's

765
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: where things started getting tricky, Like you gotta be able

766
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: to keep on everyone's eyes and not just make flashing

767
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: plays here and there. Okay, Dave, sorry, you're I just

768
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm writing a story. I went back and looked at

769
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: every week one practice squad of Jason Garrett's career. I'm

770
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: going to write about it for later in the week, Okay,

771
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: But Mike Jackson fits the type of guy that winds

772
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: up on their practice squad all the time, Like they're

773
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: pretty reliably have a draft pick on their practice squad,

774
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: Like you can go all the way back to a

775
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: QUASUSU U wantsa if you want to, we can talk

776
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: about Borrow Boscarborough last year. They do it all the time.

777
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: And Day three pick who has the traits they like,

778
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: who didn't have as good of a camp as they

779
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: would prefer. Makes a lot of sense. All right, let's

780
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: move on. Let's go to this one got really interesting.

781
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: It was already very interesting, but tackle Charlton versus Joe

782
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: Jackson versus Jalen Jelks. All of them had moments in

783
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: that game where they made plays. All of them have

784
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: been guys that we've discussed on this show as being,

785
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, standout guys at times. What do you think

786
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: about that position and where the Cowboys are versus where

787
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: they're where they're going. We already know Tank, Quinn, Crawford, Armstrong.

788
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: We all feel pretty good going to be on this.

789
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, Quinn doesn't count towards the fifty three.

790
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: Got it especially then? I mean it matters because it

791
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: changes it changes the name of who makes the team.

792
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: So I mean Taco played his way onto the team.

793
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: As far as I'm considering concerned, Yeah, he was great.

794
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Uh he's shown like he's been trending in the right

795
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: direction all camp and then you know those were those

796
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: were starters out there. I know Houston's a line is

797
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of a mess, but he wasn't doing that against

798
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: Scrubs at eight sax well and sorry sack and then

799
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 1: going to get the football, you know, I mean even

800
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: said it, he goes I caused it. I should have

801
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: gone and go get it. I mean that's what he

802
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: look at it. Yeah, and I mean everybody touched it once,

803
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: but I mean he went in there and and made it.

804
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: I think that was a great hustle play. And then

805
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: for him to come back from the injury and still

806
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: come back into the game make another play on a

807
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: receiver down the field or running back down the field,

808
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: I thought that was a great one. I also really

809
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: loved his I loved his attitude after the game. He's

810
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: like this, this doesn't mean I haven't done anything. And

811
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: if they want me to play the fourth game, I will,

812
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: like I know what it is. I know what's going on. Basically, like,

813
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: good for you for not shying away from it. I

814
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: don't know if he will play, especially since he hurt

815
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: his ankle, but I appreciate him at least saying that.

816
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: I just you take a hit if you cut him

817
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: because of the money, Like they're still guarantees on his deal,

818
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: and you definitely don't want the embarrassment of having him

819
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: go be good for somebody else. And on top of that,

820
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: he's been pretty good. So I just think all that

821
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: combines to put him on the team. You mentioned what

822
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: he said after the game. Over the last two or

823
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: three weeks, I've actually grown kind of like him. Before

824
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: I was kind of ambivalent, Like it wasn't like I

825
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: disliked him, but I just was kind of like, he's

826
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: just taco. But what he said in the locker room

827
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: after I was at the San Francisco game, I think

828
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: he was, and then what he said after this game,

829
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: it just he just has a spirit about him. In

830
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's just kind of like, look, man, I

831
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: know everybody ain't on my side. I know everybody isn't

832
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: necessarily any on the preface that by saying there are

833
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: a lot of times you hear guys that talk like that,

834
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: when they're saying things like everybody's against me, and you

835
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: can hear the bitterness in them. Yeah, I don't hear

836
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: that at all from him. It's just more like, I know, man,

837
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: and I'm a first round pick that comes with the territory,

838
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: and it's just my job to change that. It's my

839
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: job to go out there and do my very best.

840
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: And to me, I just kind of like that attitude it.

841
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: I like that spirit about it. I think a lot

842
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: of people over on the football side of the building

843
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: would tell you that some of the biggest stuff in

844
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: his way is maturity and mindset, and it seems like

845
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: he might be turning that corner, which is encouraging, you

846
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: know what I like and based on the things how

847
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: we hear him talk and express himself as to like,

848
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is type of deal.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of that, he showed that he does care because

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Speaker 1: I was on the sideline there. He got her on

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Speaker 1: that first When he got her on that plate, he

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Speaker 1: came out, the doctors are looking at his foot. You know,

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Speaker 1: he shows that he's in pain a little bit. He's

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Speaker 1: telling him like, no, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: He was the one who made the decision to go

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Speaker 1: back out there. He went back out there, he did

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Speaker 1: what he did. Then he gets hurt again, and now

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Speaker 1: it's to the point where he's not able to put pressure,

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Speaker 1: like put pressure on the foot, and he was limping

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Speaker 1: around now. But I like seeing his drive and willingness

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Speaker 1: to be on the field and being mindful that he

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Speaker 1: is and you know you might not be here and

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Speaker 1: he's aware of that. And he showed competitiveness. How do

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Speaker 1: you say that competitivenessness? Yeah? There, you like it? All right,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and finish it up for today.

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Speaker 1: We have a few more of these we're gonna hit.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back tomorrow and we'll hit some more of these.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you stay tuned with Hanging with the Boys.

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Speaker 1: They gotta actually a special announcement coming up today a

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Speaker 1: new member of their cast. I think you guys are

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Speaker 1: really gonna like it, So make sure you check it out.

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Speaker 1: Let them announce that. Just stay tuned, you'll see that

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