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Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised. The World's region Welcome to Patriot's

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Speaker 1: Unfiltered Deuce. When you have a sneeze bruin, does it

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Speaker 1: sneeze bruin like the Bruins. I got it. Took me

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Speaker 1: and that's a shiny red. That's like Fall's disco shirt.

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Speaker 1: purple singlet on the days comes. It just slaps his ups.

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Speaker 1: Not exactly what happened. How did the pat Patriot hummets

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Speaker 1: look out there to that? Yeah? Yeah, what would you

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Speaker 1: I would say to see him like a good question,

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Speaker 1: feel better if Mac was one hundred percent healthy. I

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Speaker 1: i'd feel better if he was healthy. But how many

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Speaker 1: teams are picking top ten year? Like, if you need

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Speaker 1: a quarterback? Ten? This is Patriots Unfiltered fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: at Jileste Stadium. So it's a big day. We got picks,

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Speaker 1: We got to talk about the Lions and Matt that

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Speaker 1: World's Original podcast. I think whenever somebody makes like a

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Speaker 1: That's like, that's sort of like our calling card. I

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Speaker 1: love it like that to punctuated. Yeah, this isn't just

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Speaker 1: coming from any podcast. This is the World's Original. That's

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Speaker 1: going to turn into my right there you go. So

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Speaker 1: it's an underrated line by you yesterday. What Mic goes?

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Speaker 1: How many teams you think of picking in the top ten?

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Speaker 1: You go ten? I didn't appreciate that. It's a very

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Speaker 1: very very underrated line right there. I think that one

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone else will be joining us,

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Speaker 1: reviews are in for Catch twenty two, are they And

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Speaker 1: they're all glowing graves excellent. Yeah, yeah, it was grave,

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Speaker 1: it's a big thing. It's about consistency, it's about honor,

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Speaker 1: stacking days, stacking days. Who's honor our? Runner, Fred, who's

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Speaker 1: That worst quarter? Are we gonna get? What's going on there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Poor poor Tom, Poor Thomas. He just wants to play

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Speaker 1: football and have a family. Can't he have both? Not

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Speaker 1: that we spend any time really talking about Tom Brady's marriage,

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Speaker 1: they're really not getting any plays. I meant, you know,

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Speaker 1: about that. No, you're talking about average to below average

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Speaker 1: that's with Mac. With Mac, No, but you're talking about

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Speaker 1: And I'm not telling you it's it's fair to just

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Speaker 1: if they're putting together like how efficient are Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you're putting together a fourteen play touchdown drive and it

423
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Speaker 1: took you a long time to score, fine, Okay, Like

424
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Speaker 1: I just don't want I don't want to punt six times.

425
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair. Well, and but you know that begs it.

426
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 1: You know, now your running game has to be effective.

427
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: It's got to work, and it should against this team. Yeah. Yeah,

428
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: and blitz as much as you look at Detroit and

429
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Speaker 1: say this is what we know about their defense, well,

430
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Speaker 1: I mean they're going against the third stone quarterbacks. So

431
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna stack the box and say, you're

432
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Speaker 1: just not gonna beat us with Harrison Stevenson. And if

433
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Speaker 1: you want to throw it down the field on one

434
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Speaker 1: on one coverage or you know, you'll have guys that

435
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: can break loose deep, good luck try to. And I

436
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Speaker 1: would imagine that, you know, regardless of what Zappie knows

437
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Speaker 1: up to this point, this week, they're practicing blitz killers, right, Yeah,

438
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Speaker 1: there's a package in there for him, you know, to

439
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Speaker 1: to kill the blitz. Now, a lot of that has

440
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Speaker 1: to do with him recognizing it, you know, because you

441
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Speaker 1: can disguise the blitz and you don't know what's coming

442
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Speaker 1: and there it is. Yeah, but I would imagine that

443
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Speaker 1: they're working on, you know, whether it's screens, draw plays

444
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Speaker 1: or you know, just those little rainbow passes over the

445
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Speaker 1: first level. I imagine that they're working on plays specifically

446
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Speaker 1: to for him to you know, combat the blitz. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 1: that's what David Andrews talked about yesterday of Detroit being

448
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Speaker 1: a spin the dial blitz kind of team coming from

449
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Speaker 1: anywhere they'll send defensive backs. Belichick mentioned that too, So

450
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Speaker 1: I agree, and that's you know, but but you also

451
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Speaker 1: wonder like how are they going to manage blitz in

452
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Speaker 1: the crap out of them? But also you know, not

453
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Speaker 1: making sure they get beat deep, you know, Like so

454
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Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit of a balancing act for them,

455
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Speaker 1: I think, But I don't. I mean, would you really

456
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Speaker 1: worry about it? Would you really worry about Hey, let's

457
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Speaker 1: just send seven guys on this, but you know, third

458
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Speaker 1: and long, Like, if I'm absolutely I do it until

459
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Speaker 1: they tell me I can't. Until it proves that he

460
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Speaker 1: can pick it up. I would agree, and feel like

461
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Speaker 1: you can score too if you're Detroit. So it's not

462
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Speaker 1: like you're like, well, we've got a very thin like

463
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Speaker 1: if we we you know, they're gonna put up points,

464
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Speaker 1: I would get I don't know, I mean, how many

465
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Speaker 1: points do you think the Patriots need to play this game? Well,

466
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Speaker 1: you know, based on over twenty five twenty five? Yeah, yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna like, I don't think you're

468
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Speaker 1: winning seventeen thirteen. Right, it's not gonna be a Steelers game, right,

469
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, we all you know that

470
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Speaker 1: happened to be one that we've got. Right, We've had

471
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Speaker 1: a million examples of games that we got wrong. Now

472
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Speaker 1: we think it's going to be this kind of game,

473
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Speaker 1: and it's completely the opposite. Now, if the tight ends out, Um,

474
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Speaker 1: I like our chances a little bit more. Yeah. Sure,

475
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Speaker 1: Well if the tight ends out in Saint Brown and

476
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Speaker 1: all these worlds last week, if if they're back in

477
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Speaker 1: then I don't care about. What I'm saying is if

478
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Speaker 1: all those guys on that list are out, Yeah, then

479
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Speaker 1: you should be able to slow down this offense. Yeah,

480
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Speaker 1: I think they'll hawk. It's I mean, he finished the

481
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Speaker 1: game healthy, right, Like I don't know. I would expect,

482
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Speaker 1: but you never know, right, you never know. Maybe man

483
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Speaker 1: Campbell bid off his kneecap. We'll see today, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: you know, Job, when the injury poll comes out today,

485
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Speaker 1: maybe a lot of these guys will be listed as limited.

486
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Speaker 1: I go back to um. You know, Deuce, you did

487
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Speaker 1: your roundtable questions this morning, and I was there, okay

488
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Speaker 1: this week, Yeah, I was going to ask him, all right.

489
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Speaker 1: One of the questions was what's your key matchup? And

490
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Speaker 1: I said it's Belichick verse Dan Campbell because forget it

491
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Speaker 1: then while I was over no, because in Bill's SUMMARYE

492
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, when he goes over the team. He did

493
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Speaker 1: not say well coached, but he did say that they're

494
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Speaker 1: very aggressive. So I look for Bill to try to

495
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Speaker 1: play off that aggressiveness and you know, make them make

496
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Speaker 1: mistakes because of that aggressiveness. H Let me ask you,

497
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Speaker 1: if you think that Detroit's going to be really aggressive

498
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Speaker 1: defensively in this game, I kind of agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Would you keep that same aggressiveness if Mac Jones plays, Yes,

500
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Speaker 1: I would too. I would too, because he can't move. Yeah, yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: I mean, don't even get me started. Don't even get

502
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Speaker 1: me started. I mean I just yeah, we all got

503
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Speaker 1: got a chance to see some of those videos. He

504
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Speaker 1: was not moving. I know, well who was I think

505
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Speaker 1: it was Grd your guy, Paul, he said. The lack

506
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Speaker 1: of stability in the ankle. He was saying, he's raising

507
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Speaker 1: up on his toes him once, looks like he had

508
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Speaker 1: absolutely no pop in his Like I just after watching

509
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Speaker 1: that video, I found myself saying, what what are we

510
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: doing here? Yeah? This guy should be resting. I think, like,

511
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Speaker 1: I don't think he has any chance to get out

512
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Speaker 1: there this weekend. I just I feel like, and when

513
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: we talked about it last year, last week that that

514
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Speaker 1: this is an overreaction to like prove that he's tough.

515
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Speaker 1: And I just I really worry that someone needs to

516
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 1: be like take his helmet and be like get healthy,

517
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: get out of here. You need to get away exactly

518
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Speaker 1: so I can't harm myself. He's gonna harm himself out there.

519
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: Like I just watching the video, you can see the

520
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Speaker 1: mobility that he does not have in his ankle. He

521
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Speaker 1: has no push off of his toe. It's all just

522
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Speaker 1: like he's wearing a boot off of his flat foot. Yeah,

523
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: flat foot the whole time. So you're gonna try to

524
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Speaker 1: play an NFL game against with that, Like, I just

525
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Speaker 1: I think it's ridiculous that I think he needs to rest.

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Speaker 1: The other thing with Detroit, if Aaron Glenn, you know,

527
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Speaker 1: has something going, I know they're struggling. I know that,

528
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Speaker 1: you know, it's the worst defense in football. I would

529
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Speaker 1: also try to do a bunch of things where I'm

530
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Speaker 1: I'm showing the blitz and then I'm like occasionally dropping

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Speaker 1: out of it and seeing if I can get Zappy

532
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Speaker 1: to throw one to me right right yet, because you

533
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Speaker 1: gotta think it's gonna come out quick. The blitz is

534
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Speaker 1: come and here's my hot you know what? The hot's

535
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: gonna be if you're if you're Detroit, you know you

536
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: take it away. I mean, I know last week, had

537
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Speaker 1: Zappy been able to pull off the win, it would

538
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Speaker 1: have been like amazing. I even I still think if

539
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Speaker 1: they win this game, it'll be amazing. With a third

540
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Speaker 1: string quarterback, I would have to I would have to

541
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Speaker 1: see it. Like if they went out and won forty

542
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Speaker 1: one thirty eight, I would agree with one thousand and

543
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Speaker 1: percent with you. I think that would be absolutely amazing

544
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Speaker 1: if they win. If they win the game, because Detroit

545
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Speaker 1: craps all over themselves the way they don't kind of

546
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: have and have no players, then that's the kind of

547
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Speaker 1: game you win with it their string quarters lining up

548
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: to be a twenty twenty one context, right, like well

549
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: the Houston no like that the Jacoby Brissette against Houston

550
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: game where a fumble, two kickoffs inside the twenty and

551
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: they allowed to kick the quarterback to just take a

552
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: snap and run around the end for a touchdown. Like

553
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: if you win because of that, that's not the same

554
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: as like if he just plays conventional offense football and

555
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: he's like carving up the Lions, I'm with Fred, that

556
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: to me would be an amazing accomplishment. Yeah, all right,

557
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Speaker 1: eight five five pass five hundred is the ACE ticket

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Speaker 1: at pages dot com as the email address. I guess

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Speaker 1: we're doing video today. Huh, we are, We're on the video. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't eaten anything yet because I don't

562
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Speaker 1: want to give everybody get everybody too excited about my

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Speaker 1: pizza cons even the candy and do well. I had

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Speaker 1: someb some rock candy. Let's go to Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the ACE ticket hut line. Hear what people have to say.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Vinnie in Vegas. What's up Vinnie? Hey, guys,

567
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: how's it going good? Hey? You know I haven't I

568
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: haven't called a long time, but you know I stay loyalty.

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Speaker 1: You guys up here old all of the shows. Thank

570
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Speaker 1: you the first. The first thing I want to say, Fred,

571
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: is you know you brought in some new blog Listen.

572
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: I love Paul, Paul is my favorite, right, but you

573
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Speaker 1: brought in some new blood. You've added some new podcasts.

574
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: You know, for for a long time you were pretty

575
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: status quoll right, you know, with the show, and and

576
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: so I think you've done some really good stuff. You know,

577
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: I gave you all the props for being progressive and

578
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: keeping well. Listen, you know everybody chipped in. I'm Deuce

579
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Speaker 1: is the one who hired Evan Lazar. I didn't, you know,

580
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: I just okayed it. But yeah, Deuce is uh brought him.

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00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: He's been an advocate for years. So yeah, I heard

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Speaker 1: even call him the boss. So I don't know, listen,

583
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Speaker 1: I would. I would tell him the boss is me, right, Fred,

584
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm the boss. Don't call anybody else the boss here? Oh?

585
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that right? People? I don't want

586
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: the boss man. Is only one boss man. You're the

587
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: boss man. The boss Man called the Boston Catch twenty

588
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: two yesterday. I wanted to, you know, I would. I

589
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Speaker 1: would say, you know, keep Mac away. You know, listen,

590
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna get hurt more and then the season

591
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: is over. I mean, let's just wait another week and

592
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: and give him time to deal. I think they do

593
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: need to take, like you said, the keys away from

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Speaker 1: him and say you need to stay. Yeah. I think

595
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: that's that will be a bad decision. I'm a feeling

596
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: that if he goes in there, he's gonna get hurt

597
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: even more and then the season it really is done

598
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Speaker 1: the right I mean, like, if he's a sitting dug,

599
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: forget about the ankle, he could get hurt in some

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Speaker 1: other way. What are we doing? You know? Yeah, I

601
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: just think it's a bad idea. Yeah, I'm with you, Vinnie.

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Speaker 1: Another question real quick for you guys, And I know

603
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Speaker 1: you have to do fix today, so yeah, we gotta hurry. Yeah,

604
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Speaker 1: it might not be for today. You might want to

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Speaker 1: do it for another day. But you know, I did

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Speaker 1: hear that, you know, and I heard that the the shotgun,

607
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's a little easier to defend than the

608
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Speaker 1: owner center because you know, there's a lot more things

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00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: you could do from under center. I'm wondering what you

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Speaker 1: guys think about that, and maybe the the idea that

611
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Speaker 1: the pages are easy to defend, because that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's we're doing now. Yeah, I guess that, thanks Vinnie.

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Speaker 1: I guess that was a discussion on the show with

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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky and it's like four people and they were

615
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Speaker 1: talking about it, and the other guy wasn't. Arlovsky said

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Speaker 1: that you know, when you're under center is you have

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Speaker 1: a lot more options than when you know you're running shotgun. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: that's why they go from I mean college teams are

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Speaker 1: you know, all shotgun I mean that was Mac, that

620
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Speaker 1: was definitely Bailey Zappy, everything's in front of them. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a whole new world going under center and having

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Speaker 1: to take those snaps and having it you know. But

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Speaker 1: but you agree that you have more options under center, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you can run the ball in different ways. The

625
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Speaker 1: only way you're going to run the ball out of

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Speaker 1: shotgun is by catching the snap and handing it to

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Speaker 1: the guy next to you. Right. In general, I mean

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Speaker 1: you could run some jet sweeps I suppose out of

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Speaker 1: the shotgun. But yeah, you have the entirety of a

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Speaker 1: running game and passing game under center. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think that makes you easier or harder to defend. I

632
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: don't either. I mean, let's I guess, you know, you

633
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: can do a two step drop and get rid of it,

634
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: but with a shotgun and you can get rid of

635
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: the ball quicker. Yeah, and I think the yeah, I

636
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: mean there's a reason why the majority of players are

637
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: used out of the shotgun. Like, if if all of

638
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: these teams thought it was harder to defend under center,

639
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be like sixty percent shotgun or whatever the percentages.

640
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: And I think quarterbacks like shotgun better because you get

641
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: all right, you don't have to turn your back on

642
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: the play, right. I mean, that's all right there. And

643
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: that's why with a guy like Zappy, that's what they're

644
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: gonna do. I mean, make it easy on them, don't,

645
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, throw him into I mean, they'll try to

646
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: do some a little bit under center stuff, but it's

647
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: clear what he's comfortable with and what he's experienced. And

648
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: they had Bailey Zappy under center a lot the other

649
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: day because they're going to run the ball a lot conventionally.

650
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: They were just running. They were running, you know, as

651
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Evan says, they ran a lot of gap power, and

652
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: they ran a lot of zone um you know, so

653
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: you know they're going to do that. And when you

654
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: run the ball as often as they did the other day,

655
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: that's going to open up play action. Like I've also

656
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: seen a lot of word about, you know, the Patriots.

657
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: You know, Bailey ZAPPI runs play action better than Mac.

658
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: They have to get Mac up to. This is not

659
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: about running it more effectively or more often. When you

660
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: have a game with it, you have your third string

661
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: quarterback and the other team is just saying, we ain't

662
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: playing pass right, We're just going to stop the run. Yeah,

663
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna have play action opportunities because they're not playing

664
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: the past at all. When Mac Jones is playing quarterback,

665
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: you have to play both right, right, Yeah, So they

666
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: can't just run play action every play and have it worked. No,

667
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: Ben ben Volan, Let's go to John in La. What's

668
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: up John? Hey, guys, I want to reiterate that um

669
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: Bred at the GM offwfu uh Andy and Eric leaving

670
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: and bringing and Megan and then replacing me bringing inducing

671
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: and tomorrow and Alex catch toy two. It's great. It's

672
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: so good. I wish you could take over the front

673
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: office of the team. I'm a better GM than I am.

674
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: We've lost We've lost a lot of talent over the years. Bred,

675
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: the coaches just killed. We're struggling. No, you keep the

676
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: core of we've been in a bit of a draft

677
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: lull lately. I think that makes Paul Brady, that makes

678
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, the twenty year long time, you know, been

679
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: taking pay cuts. You know, I think you're telling me.

680
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: I think he's had some work done. I think he's

681
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: had some work done that. I think he's had some

682
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: work done, refuses deat Strawberries. Yeah, night Jade. Sorry, So, uh,

683
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: it would be great if Douce, if we could have

684
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: the you know, the version and the team of Deuce

685
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: with the content having like, could we have drafted Devin

686
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Lloyd please? Everyone was saying we were going to do

687
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: what least was a good match for the system, a

688
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: dynamic playmaker in the front seven. Yet at a position

689
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: that we're like, we have nothing, yeah, and Devin Lloyds

690
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: lighting up the league doing what everyone said they would do.

691
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I understand back in the day, the

692
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: draft industrial complex is not, you know, as great as

693
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: what Belichick and his guys could come up with. Me

694
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 1: didn't want to go with the sort of overall one

695
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: that most of the other teams did. But now it's,

696
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen twenty years later, there's so much information available,

697
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: there's so much more information. There's so many more people

698
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: who are you know, making making you know, there's scouts

699
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: out there doing it. It's it's a real thing, and

700
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: it's really frustrating to me that, honestly, my mom could

701
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: have drafted better than Bill Belichick over the last week

702
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: seven years with me whispering in her ear. You know, Tibo,

703
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: don't not take TiVo because he tweeted something. Wow, it's unbelievable.

704
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you, all right, John, Hey, alright, alright, Okay,

705
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: the world that is that's a little harsh. Yeah, I know,

706
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: but he is a scriptwriter, so no, no, he's dramatic.

707
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: That's good passionate. I I'm with him though. Ont Devin

708
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: Lloyd and that was like, remember we talked a lot

709
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: about that, and I mean, you know, of course, and

710
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: I knew what was going to play out like this

711
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: because I knew that Cole Strange would ultimately be your

712
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: day one starter at GUARD. Fine. Great, And now everybody's

713
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: going to say because of that, see, what would you like,

714
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: there's a million guy like, would you rather have Devin

715
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Lloyd and Cole Strange in the second round and not

716
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: have Thornton? Well, at this point it's hard to say.

717
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen Thornton. I mean, but but how

718
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: about Devin Lloyd Tae kwon Thornton and instead of Bailey

719
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: Zappy in the fourth round, Cole Strange because that's where

720
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: he was like slated to go, like that's apples to apples.

721
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: I yeah, I know, yeah, but then you don't have

722
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. And but but beyond that, like I happen

723
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: to see um, I think I saw it in clips.

724
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: I think the athletic put together like at the quarter pole,

725
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: very early four games, Like let's not get lost with

726
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. We'll see what he ends up being. Right now,

727
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: he looks like he's a great pick. But they had

728
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: like the rookies by position, the top rookie performers by position,

729
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: and Kenyan Greene and Zion Johnson were listed at guard

730
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: and Cole Strange was not. So those are two guards

731
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: that got taken. And I understand they got taken, you

732
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: know before you know, Zion Johnson went before the Patriots

733
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: were at twenty one. But there were options that you

734
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: could have met, like you didn't just have to take

735
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: the next guard. Yeah, is my point. And I'm not

736
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: telling you I like, I don't. I think Cole Strange

737
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: has been fine. I'm not telling you he's been a bust.

738
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: He's been fine. He's he's he's had his moments, good

739
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: and bad. But I just feel like there were better

740
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: players than cold Strange available in the first round, regardless

741
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: of position. And I kind of thought, that's what Bill

742
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: always sort of focused on, is if if the guys

743
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: are similar, then we're going to take the position of need,

744
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: But if not, we're gonna go for who we think

745
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: is the better player. Right. I think they kind of

746
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: got in to a little bit of need on that pack. Yeah,

747
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. You guys always say what do

748
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: they do? And I mean I think that the signing

749
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: at Jamie Collins at this point, you know, like what

750
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: does that say? And you know, I can tell you

751
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: that I don't think the linebacker play has been very

752
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: good and not other people will say that as well.

753
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, I totally agree. But this

754
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: this tells you they kind of agree with you. And

755
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: it's you know, we can't keep going back to this well,

756
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: and it's just that's what's frustrating is that, you know,

757
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: I think on the surface, he thought, oh yeah, they're

758
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: trying to balance the safeties at linebacker and all that,

759
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: and you know, all right, they're gonna bring Jawan Bentley back,

760
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: and all right, I think I'm on board. And it's

761
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: just like it looks the same, It looks the same

762
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: and we talk about the run defense problems, and I'm

763
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: just last year, I remember getting into the draft and

764
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: being like, I'm just on Nakobe, Dean and Lloyd. Those

765
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: are the two guys. And now to see, you know,

766
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: how well Lloyd is playing. I haven't been as up

767
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: on on what Dean's been doing, not playing defense. He's

768
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: just kind of playing specialis what's um ray kwon McMillan's status.

769
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: It's a broken thumb, you know, And so I mean

770
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: I think that that's like derailed some of that plan.

771
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: That they haven't been able to play him as much

772
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: as they might want to. But he was well, he

773
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: wasn't playing well, and and is he going to be

774
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: the answer once he gets going? I mean, I think

775
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: you're all right. He's off an ACL you know, like

776
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: you give him a little bit of time here earlier

777
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: this season, but you know, at the same time, they're

778
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: going out to get Collins because they need more from

779
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: that position, and you think he will be active this week.

780
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, Bill said yesterday he had some

781
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: offseason surgery, so I doubt it. I would probably think

782
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: it's a long shot, but I don't know. So the

783
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: move yesterday with Marcus Cannon. Is that now permanent? Yeah?

784
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: What I mean is that's it? Yeah? Yeah's because I

785
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: thought they did that last week, but I guess I

786
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: was just an elevation from the I thought that they

787
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: signed him to the active roster last week, but I

788
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: guess not. No, he was a practice squad guy initially,

789
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: and then they know him up for the initially the

790
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: first they promote from. I thought they promoted him by

791
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: signing him to the active roster because he was ready.

792
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: He was on the practice squad for a couple of weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

793
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: he can't go back now unless they have to cut

794
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: them now use cankleback. Well, they have to cut them

795
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: right in order, like like little Jordan Humphrey and being

796
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: the same kind of situation. Let's go to Melvin and Tennessee.

797
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: What's up Melvina. I was going on, Hey, um, what

798
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: this game is? It's a weird game because, as I guess, obviously,

799
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident that we should win. But also

800
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: with that being stated, I think you're gonna need close

801
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: to probably twenty five enough to blow down this team.

802
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you all have already said that that the

803
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: line just scored a lot of points. So it's it's

804
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: hard for me to just feel as confident with the

805
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: backups in and everything I said, even me, you know,

806
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones doesn't said that confident. It's going thirty.

807
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be one of these. Um,

808
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: the defense is going to have to really put on

809
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: one of the best performances to really limit them. UM.

810
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: And that's something that I guess it's curious because these

811
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, I mean I thought they were

812
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: I know they're not that same defense anymore, but back

813
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: in the day, it still feels like some of the

814
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: bad defenses what they'll limit somebody. I mean, we played

815
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay, they ran, did whatever they normally do. Um,

816
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones did whatever he wanted to do. It's the

817
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: main forms play the Ravens that got the balls to

818
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. But this seems like we're not limiting people

819
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: as much. I'm sure they has to do a personnel,

820
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: but still it's it's just it's just different to me

821
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: the team that they're not at least getting in their way.

822
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: So I feel confident that we can win, but I

823
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: think the pages, even with that, you're gonna need probably

824
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: at least twenty eight points, it would be the team, right, possibly, yeah,

825
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: what's and that would be below their game average, so

826
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, right, I feel like you know, the

827
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: twenty four is the fewest that they've scored, so I

828
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's a goal, like, see if

829
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: you can match that um and he's right, Melvin's right,

830
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: like you don't have a ton of confidence in the

831
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: offense in general yet, But this is the kind of

832
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: defense last year when they faced it, they got fifty,

833
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: right with mac Jones. Yeah, these are the kinds of

834
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: defenses that they feast on. Bad defenses that overcommit. They

835
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: they're aggressive to a fault. These are the kind of

836
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: defenses that Josh and Bill would have for lunch. And

837
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: the question will be how much will they be able

838
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: to take advantage of that stuff? If it's Bailey zappy right,

839
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't think they've not known they're not going to

840
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: be able to do what they've done in the past.

841
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: I think you nail on the head of why is

842
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: this just such an intriguing matchup? To me, I think

843
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: it's just going to be a roller coaster game of

844
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: back and forth kind of big plays, mistakes, Like I

845
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: don't know if can't get the Patriots to play that style.

846
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: Like in some ways, I feel like the Patriots need

847
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: to not play down to that style and just stay

848
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: within themselves and not get into that kind of back

849
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: and forth, big play mistake fest that that the Lions

850
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: seem to really thrive in. But you know, I just

851
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I'll be surprised if

852
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: they totally shut down this offense. But I have a

853
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: little bit in like the back of my head of like,

854
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: did they just kind of put it together and they

855
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: kind of have a field fork goff and you know

856
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: they're going to be just so shorthanded. And again it'll

857
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: be after the game they shut them out. Yeah, if

858
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: there's no if there's no one playing, that's different. If

859
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: they have a reasonable amount of personnel. I mean it's Wednesday,

860
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: we'll see what this looks like. Um No, but I

861
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: mean the Wednesday injury reports and I don't see them

862
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: shutting them down. But I do see the possibility of

863
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, the Detroit has won the toss, they've elected

864
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: to defer. The Patriots went on eleven play, seventy five

865
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: yard touchdown drive that featured nine runs by Damien Harrison

866
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson and they go up seven nothing, and then

867
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: the Lions come out and maybe get two first downs

868
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: and then get a pass over the middle and in

869
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: the middle of a zone that someone deflects and it

870
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: gets picked off, and the Patriots go fifty yards in

871
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 1: another nine plays and it's fourteen nothing, game, set match,

872
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: that's game. That's the formula that the Patriots have used

873
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: to win games without Tom Brady when they get that

874
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: kind of an edge early. Now I see your yeah.

875
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, golf might get some yards up and down,

876
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: but with a fourteen point cushion Belichick game and coffing

877
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: that up and I would have immense confidence and then

878
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: being able to hand the ball off unlike Dan Campbell

879
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: up ten in the fourth quarter in Minnesota going for

880
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: fourth and six from his own forty. Bill's not going

881
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: to do that. Bill's not going to do stupid stuff

882
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: like that. So that's the formula. Touchdown on the first

883
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: drive or first win the toss. No, but you know

884
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, You know what I mean, Like I

885
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: think if it just plays out conventionally and it's like

886
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: they score, you score, you know, you score, they score,

887
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a hard time stop in

888
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: their offense if their personnel is dead. But if you

889
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: can get a lead, now I think you can hold

890
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: them to like seventeen, you know, with three turnovers that

891
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: allow you to control the game from start to finish,

892
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: and you know, you get something to feel good about

893
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: going into Cleveland. That's I think that's the formula. Yeah,

894
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: well it's gonna be interesting. Williams and Philham. What's up,

895
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: william I still think that's gonna happen. Hey, are you doing? Fred?

896
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm going on? Oh you tell me. Just listen to

897
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: Patris I'm filtered my number one podcast. There you go,

898
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: he's scrambling. There you go. Just want to give y'all

899
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: phrase and then give you two questions. I know y'all

900
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: get to your fix and whatnot. First this wann't say

901
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: whatever you need from me. You know, if you need me,

902
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: keep calling whatever you need. You know, I'm here for y'all. Okay, oh,

903
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: thank you? All right, Well we need you to keep

904
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: calling you absolutely, Yeah, not a problem. So my first

905
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: question is this all right? So just a little bit

906
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: of a push. Well, it's Jamison Williams starting for Detroit

907
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: on I r started started the season. Are you doing

908
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: I think Jesus that was a torture. All right, So

909
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: a little pushback on what you were saying, Fred, you said,

910
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: we have pieces and whatnot, but you see how to

911
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: call us a question and what's going on because we

912
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: might lose this game? Yeah, and how important it is

913
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: that we leave. So you know what I'm saying, No,

914
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: I listen, I think it all comes down to the quarterback.

915
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: You know, even with Mac, I don't think he's there yet.

916
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: And so like, I think a better quarterback would be

917
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: able to do more with these pieces, you know, but

918
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Max's still learning okay, and uh last and not least okay,

919
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: So what you want? Why would you want to sign

920
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: back um to Kobe Marks when you can just go

921
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: and get Calvin Risk. You know what I'm saying like this,

922
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like we we want better weapons, better pieces here,

923
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: as you say, basically, but why bring back to the

924
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: point of mind, I guess but because he don't want

925
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: us can get open Basically. Yeah, I think he's been good.

926
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: I think he's been productive. I mean, I'm not gonna

927
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: bang down the door if they don't resign him. But right,

928
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's what has he done wrong? He's been productive?

929
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: A question is you have Calvin Ridley and Jacoby Meyers. Sure,

930
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: but why who hasn't played? Yeah? I mean I like

931
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. I think he's a really good player. But yeah,

932
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what he is. Now

933
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: doesn't he have like didn't he lead the game because

934
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, and then he got suspended for gambling on

935
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: the game, right, so yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right,

936
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: William And joining us is Evan And guess what Evan

937
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: has done? Evan tell us all the news. I know,

938
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: I gotta pull on my notes for this one. There's

939
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of just my copious notes. Right. So anyways,

940
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: Mac Jones at practice for the Patriots on Thursday about

941
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: the same level of participation as what we saw yesterday.

942
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: Very very brief media portion today, just stretching. But during stretching,

943
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks were throwing and Mac was in line participating

944
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: in the throwing drills. And I would say, well, probably

945
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: headed towards another limited day at practice like he was yesterday.

946
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: Now they were had the uppers on today, some shells

947
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: and shorts, so maybe a little bit more ramped up

948
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: from the walk through yesterday, So it's going to be

949
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: really interesting to see what his level or participation is

950
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: because I think yesterday they didn't do much contact wise,

951
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: so there wasn't really any need to hold him out significantly.

952
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: So we'll see today with a little bit more of

953
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: a ramp up what happens with Mac. Taekwon Thornton was

954
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: also back out there today, so he's back out there

955
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: for the second straight day. And we also saw Laurence

956
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: Guy who was at practice yesterday and today, but then

957
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: a DMP yesterday, so they're still playing that game with

958
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: the injury reports. The only guy missing was Brian Hoyer,

959
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: who's still dealing with that concussion. John who smith back

960
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: as well on Thursday. He was he was moving, stretching,

961
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, with everybody else, and looked like he was

962
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: taped up pretty significantly on that ankle, but that's to

963
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: be expected. I was watching the video and Mac out there.

964
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: It seems kind of the same thing, right, like just

965
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: he can't really he's like he's in a boot, but

966
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: he's not in a boot. Yeah, I would say that

967
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: there's very limited motion range of motion there, but he's

968
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: throwing the ball, you know, and and he's I think

969
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: what we're seeing yesterday and today is definitely just testing

970
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: it out and seeing how much can he actually do

971
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: out there. And I think at this point you hope

972
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: that there's not really any threat, especially in practice of

973
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: reinjuring it or getting it more severely injured. So might

974
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: as well go out there, throw some balls, you know,

975
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: maybe do a little bit of light work and see

976
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: how much he can push the ankle. So we're back

977
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: outside today. Yeah, very nice, nice day out, very nice,

978
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: very nice. Did that affect the mood at all? I

979
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: think it's always when you have an injury with the quarterback, right,

980
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: and everybody comes in and it's like a horde just

981
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: trying to get their number ten pictures right, and they

982
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: got the video. Guys are quickly setting. The guys are, yeah,

983
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: shooting through binoculars, you go, you know, Eric Adler out

984
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: there with the long lens, you know, trying to take

985
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: get the picture of Mac. But it's so funny I

986
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: see in the press box these guys using their binoculars

987
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: and taking pictures to like, here's the ru film of matter.

988
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: It's not gonna look good, so don't bother. Yeah, it's like,

989
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Big binocular, big guys on the beat. Yeah. Sure,

990
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: Man's part of this almost feels a little to me

991
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: like the Brady thing, where no, don't don't rest, don't nice,

992
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: just keep moving, keep moving. Like isn't that kind of

993
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: like the TB twelve philosophy a little bit? Is not?

994
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: Like with injuries not I mean, maybe should get janted

995
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: down here, she's a TB twelve, But like that, that's

996
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: what I'm kind of getting the vibe of of don't

997
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: rest it, keep it moving, stay on it, try to,

998
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, get it moving quickly. Doesn't it depend what

999
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: it is? I mean, you know, that's like what I

1000
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: always took from that TB twelve book that that they

1001
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: sent me a free copy of Thank You very Much

1002
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: back one of my blogging days. So I did dive

1003
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: into that a little bit. But oh, that's right. But

1004
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: you know it's like it goes back to like icing,

1005
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: is icing still good for you? I know that's like

1006
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: something that's kind of under debate now of like should

1007
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: you ice and work for me with my shoulder thing?

1008
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: I finally started later No, well I finally started icing.

1009
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: It went away. Yeah, I definitely think there's some truth

1010
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: to that. Just from what you read and here, obviously

1011
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: all of us are trying to absorb as much high

1012
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: ankle sprain knowledge as we possible. We're not watching surgery.

1013
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: I could just see Paul with his oh trying to

1014
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: clip the TV shoulder. Boy, it does, it does click

1015
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 1: into place every once in a while, even now. Yeah,

1016
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: happens when I'm driving and I would go to put

1017
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: the direction at Yeah, I'm just wondering, like what you're

1018
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: using your shoulder for you, Like like riggs, you gotta

1019
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: like put bang your shoulder in and out. I'm depending

1020
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: on the situation. Edition it's out back bailing. Hey you

1021
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: still bail that. Hey you take a break so I

1022
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: can eat? Oh, you start making fun of them, all right?

1023
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Speaker 1: He said, Francis Ford Coppola, No in that. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like there's two different guys, right, yeah, two different

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Speaker 1: pat Patriot. Yeah. Where Richfield was he was he going

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Speaker 1: worst that time, but now it's like good bad, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do. Like, Um, David Andrews posed with the red

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Speaker 1: you know he's a center. Well, he told the story

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Speaker 1: so this is the week. That's the big question around

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Speaker 1: Patriots Twitter right now is the logo at midfield? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Will they do that? Will they do that? The end zones?

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Speaker 1: We probably are in the room with people who know this. Well,

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Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see, Fred, you know, I mean kol

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Speaker 1: as usual. We'll see. Well, you know the thing about

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Speaker 1: you know, losing that opportunity if you replace it with

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Speaker 1: the old logo? Right so right, brand think so I'm

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Speaker 1: just putting a little doubt in people's mind. Oh I

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Speaker 1: know what you're doing, but I don't think you would

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Speaker 1: see you know, like the Bengals had the white logo

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Speaker 1: at midfield for the when they wore the all white Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Twitter praise. I liked them. I think they were cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't like them. I love those Dolphins uniforms, the

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Speaker 1: all teal yeah yeah. Yeah. Well anyway, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: um red white white pants right in the white helmet. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that face masks, that's gonna look cool. White face mask.

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Speaker 1: Someone said red face masks on Twitter, white white face mask. Well,

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Speaker 1: I thought you could choose. I thought as a player,

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Speaker 1: gonna wear, No, what type of face mask you had?

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Speaker 1: What color? Yeah, not what color you have never the same.

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Speaker 1: I remember um at times the PA some of the

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Speaker 1: Patriots had red face masks. Yes, the whole team, not

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Speaker 1: the whole team. In the early nineties they had red

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Speaker 1: face masks with those red uniform team though. Yes, Fred,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't have some guys wearing one uniform

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Speaker 1: Mike couldn't agree with you more great point by you

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: just the face mask uniform. Therefore they are they are

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Speaker 1: white face masks. They're wearing them out of practice this

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: week already, the helmets, so they are white. Nice how

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01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: they look today, they look fresh fresh, well except for

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01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: some of the change. They're wearing red. Right, No, they're

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01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: all wearing one. Choose your own face mask adventure. But

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: a big, a big conversation in face masks has been

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01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: Cold Strange's face mask because he wears the which I

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01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: still can't figure out why that is such a big deal,

1262
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: because most players nowadays don't. He's in the very large

1263
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: minority of not wearing the middle the middle bar. It

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01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: definitely throws you off a little bit in my mind,

1265
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: A large minority, small minority that was like pretty severe severe,

1266
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: pretty I mean I can see like to me, like

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01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: that middle bar, like you're always either one side or

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01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: the other. You know, you're splitting your eyes up at it.

1269
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: Right do you guys are playing hockey like you focus

1270
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: you know, far away. It doesn't you don't even realize

1271
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,479
Speaker 1: it there when you do. But if you're a guard,

1272
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: you're not focusing far away. You're focusing on like two

1273
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: feet in front of you. I think it's more a

1274
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: problem just generally, the face match just completely closes everything in,

1275
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, and just like you can't you're peripheral, like

1276
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 1: you think you can't. Boy now, yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, yeah, good uniform Talkatike at hot line. Web

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. We

1279
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: got a lot of emails coming in at web radio

1280
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com. Uh Neil writes in He's from

1281
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: New Brunswick. Kind of feels like this is a must

1282
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: win because I think if you're one and four the

1283
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: season is over. Adding to the stress, it seems like

1284
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: Zappy will be playing What should we do on offense

1285
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: to maximize whatever skill set he has? Way more shotgun? Also,

1286
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: what about the reports that Bob Kraft wanted Zappy over Hoyer.

1287
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: Do you think it's true? And does this bother? Can

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01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: I ask a question about that? Yeah, can you follow

1289
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: up with that emailer and tell me where that report was,

1290
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: because it's it's not the first person that I've heard that,

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen Robert krafts say well, it was

1292
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: in the same report where Robert noticed that Bourne wasn't

1293
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: getting a lot of snuff. I'm being I know, but

1294
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: I am curious is to see if there was a

1295
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: report that somewhere Robert Kraft was credited with wanting Bailey

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01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: Zappy to play over Howyer, because I find that extremely

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: out of character for Robert Kraft. Yeah. I don't know

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01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: where that came from. Yeah, but that seems like it's

1299
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: a story every time now like there's some kind of thing. Well,

1300
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: Robert Croft wants Born to play more. He mean they

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01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: want he wants more play action in the playbook. They

1302
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: got to give it to him. Ian he's the owner. Yeah,

1303
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: about this stuff, I don't know. So as a question, Oh,

1304
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: how are we gonna get Bailey's Appy run the ball? Yeah?

1305
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: I think that was the most impressive thing about the

1306
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: game on Sunday is that you have Bailey's Appy under center,

1307
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: you're still running it for five yards to carry. It

1308
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: didn't really seem to impact a running game at all.

1309
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: He would think that the defense sells out eight guys

1310
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: in the box, like let the quarterback beat you. You know,

1311
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: the fact that they've now signed Cannon to the fifty three,

1312
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I assumed he was gonna play anyway. But

1313
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna probably see a lot of that tackle eligible,

1314
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: all of that all all day. Yeah, both teams. Actually,

1315
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: the Lions run more six oh line tackle eligible than

1316
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: any team in the league, So they are number one

1317
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: in the league in that, and now the Patriots are

1318
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: probably gonna be number one in the league after last

1319
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: week and this week except for their entirety of their

1320
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: offensive lines on the Intry report. Yeah, but yeah, there

1321
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: a lot of this is we're talking about throwback uniforms.

1322
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: Is a throwback game, right, These are two teams that

1323
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: want to run the football. The Lions are very heavy

1324
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: under center. They're a very heavy run team. Early down

1325
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: run frequency for both teams is very high up there

1326
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, when they run the football

1327
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: on first and second down. So this is a throwback game.

1328
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: When the throwback unis which I like that symmetry. Yeah,

1329
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: but no lions throwbacks. All we need is mud mud.

1330
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: We're not going to get that. Uh, Brendan writes in uh.

1331
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: He says, if Zappy ends up getting few getting a

1332
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: few incredible performances, how do you think that will affect

1333
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: the QB depth? If well? Could he take the backup

1334
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: toll from Hawaiian Howier? Yes? I mean I think that's

1335
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: that's the goal is for him probably next year to

1336
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: just be the number two guy. Yeah, right, that could

1337
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: be positive to come out of this would be the

1338
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: greatest little thing. But yeah, you know, when's Mac going

1339
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: to come back? And you know how much is that

1340
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: be going to get a chance to develop? I mean,

1341
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: I think he's getting a week this week to prepare

1342
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: and you know, see what it's really like, and you know,

1343
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll kind of tailor some more things in the

1344
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: plan to him. Um, but you know, how does it

1345
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: go if he's got to go three weeks four weeks

1346
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: when he really has to start to improve to as

1347
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: other teams get a sense of him and what they're

1348
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: doing with him. And so I don't know that I

1349
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: mean that that that would be the interesting stuff to

1350
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 1: take from this if he has to start for a

1351
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: little while, slide right, I want to be off camera

1352
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: that what's the point. Also give well, you are in charge,

1353
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: you can control that. Also give a shout out to

1354
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: bb for not listening to all the haters even if

1355
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: we are losing right now. Judon and the other guys

1356
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: being such great characters on the team and that's how

1357
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: I want to be represented. So how how is he

1358
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: listening to haters? If Judon is a great character? I

1359
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: don't know, Brandon that one shout out for Belichick for

1360
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: trying to win games. I mean, I mean, how many

1361
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: head coaches out there would you think would be trying

1362
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: to win games? I personality though, I mean, I think

1363
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: that's having a great game season. So I mean, like, like,

1364
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: does he mean like he's a great character, so play

1365
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: him any like? I don't understand. I don't care. I

1366
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: think in some ways Judon's having a better start than

1367
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: he did last year. But he was new to the

1368
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: team last year, so as new and exciting that this

1369
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: free agent is coming onto the scene and has a

1370
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: sack in every single game. But this year he's got

1371
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: a sack in every single game again, And it's not

1372
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: just a saxon overtime. He pressures Rogers on third down.

1373
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: Early on in the game, he had another pressure, so

1374
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 1: it's having a great start. He just looks quicker to me,

1375
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: like I don't know if he's in better shape or something,

1376
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: but he just seems to have a little bit more

1377
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: of a closing burst to me a couple of times

1378
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 1: against Rogers where it was, you know, like that extra

1379
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: little boost right as he's getting to the quarterback where

1380
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: it's he thinks maybe he can get it away. But

1381
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: I think he's, uh, he's looked really good. Um, Jonathan

1382
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: has actually his email says Jonathan, but his name is

1383
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: Rusty Arland. I guess that's his nickname. He wants he

1384
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: wants to make heads details over this Mac being a

1385
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: practice thing. Yeah, he says. Teams know just because he's

1386
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: at practice doesn't mean he has a chance to play.

1387
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: So what's the point Is it just to create some

1388
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: pressure on Mac to play after he's been practicing for

1389
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: three weeks. That's the only explanation I can come up with.

1390
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: I think Mac wants to be out there. Yeah, I

1391
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: think Mac wants to be out there. Yeah. I think

1392
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 1: the team is like, you know, do what you want,

1393
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: and I think he wants to be out there. I mean,

1394
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: what I was saying to Paul this morning is like,

1395
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 1: I just hope this isn't like an overcorrection on the

1396
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: fact that he took some crap for how he left

1397
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: the field in that last game. And he feels like

1398
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: he has something approved now by coming back early from

1399
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: this injury. But I just I just hope they're smart

1400
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, that's not what one of the

1401
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: Patriots players said when they had one of those reports,

1402
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: like I hope we're smart about this. And you know,

1403
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: at first, I think people were thinking that, like, oh,

1404
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: the team is pushing him, they want him back a sap.

1405
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: And but I think it's changed. And I mean me

1406
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: and Paul talked a lot about this. Just it seems

1407
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: like it it's Mac. I think it was is Um

1408
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: the surgery. I think the team wanted him to have

1409
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 1: surgery because they felt that would get him back the quickest.

1410
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: And I think that that has changed because he is

1411
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: not having the surgery. They gave him away at the

1412
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: pizza party upstairs, Matty, I think they have a bunch

1413
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: of Now we had Matisse bring us. It was nice

1414
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: enough to bring a few down anybody else. No, just

1415
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: the just the talent, just the talent move he brought

1416
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: up for content, not Casspe. He won't be the first time,

1417
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: UM won't be the last. The Tom Brady they just

1418
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, they're taking his weapons. So Matt did send

1419
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: me a link to a blog post about the Robert

1420
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:52,919
Speaker 1: Kraft Bailey Zappy thing, and evidently UM noted um. Patriots

1421
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: beat writer Bill Simmons is evidently the one. He says

1422
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: on his latest episode his latest podcast, he says he

1423
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: has heard from some of his quote Pats Birdies about

1424
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: what he thinks. One thing I heard, as you know,

1425
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: I have some Pats Birdies. Kraft loves Zappy, Simmons said,

1426
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: and Kraft thought he should have started this week over Hoyer.

1427
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: He's like all in on Zappy. So I don't know

1428
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: how Bill Simmons knows that. I know he is an

1429
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: enormous Boston sports fan. I don't know who he would

1430
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: be talking to that would tell him something that Robert

1431
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: Kraft was thinking. But that's that's where it came from.

1432
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: So I just wanted thanks for Matt for finding that.

1433
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 1: You know, if that's true, and I doubt it is

1434
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: then I disagree with the owner. And you know, I

1435
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: know on your show yesterday, Paul, they had a pole

1436
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: who should it's amazing, who should start Hoyer or Zappy?

1437
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: And like over seventy percent wanted Zappy, so and I

1438
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: just don't get it. And this emailer there was a

1439
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: pole who should start seventy five percent Mac or Zappy

1440
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: and it was still overwhelmingly Zappy. Okay, I mean what

1441
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: doings like he was over eighty percent over Hoyer. I

1442
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: mean this emailer, this is Andy and Sioux City says,

1443
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm tired of hearing that we should play Hoyer if

1444
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: he can go. It's stupid. Can we all agree that

1445
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: this team is going nowhere? No? I can't agree. That's

1446
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: the part. I can't agree. That's right. That's the premise

1447
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: that it's the wrong premise, Like we are not making

1448
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and if by some freaking miracle we do,

1449
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: it's not lasting long. With that said, there is zero

1450
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: reasons to play Hoyer. I don't care if Zappy can

1451
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: only run ten plays, get him out there and get

1452
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: him some rep What about the rest of the team.

1453
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: Don't we want to see what everyone else can do too.

1454
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: If you were four and nine the ball and just

1455
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: and just forget about the wide receivers. If you were

1456
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: four and nine and really playing for nothing, then I

1457
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: could say, like, get get the rookie some reps. Let's

1458
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: see if he can be the number two guy next year.

1459
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: We won't need to spend say a million or two

1460
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: on a backup quarterback. We can get a rookie fourth

1461
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: round contract in year two is my backup? Yeah? It

1462
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: makes sense. Right now, I'm unwilling to accept the premise

1463
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: that the season is over, he says. Hasn't Fred been

1464
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: saying you only get better by playing? Yeah? That goes

1465
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: with for all players, not just Bailey Zappy, It goes

1466
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: for Cole Strange, It goes for a galore, It goes

1467
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: for you know, all these guys need to play more.

1468
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: And if you limit the playbook to just running plays,

1469
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: you're not helping anybody, you know. So I don't get it.

1470
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: Hoyer knows the offense better, he could run more plays.

1471
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: Maybe ten years from now Zappy's still in the league

1472
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: and he turns out to be a better quarterback than

1473
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: a Hoyer. Maybe, But right now, I don't think the

1474
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: Patriots are out of it, and I want to give

1475
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: them the best chance to win. And right now I

1476
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: think it's a healthy Hoyer. Now he's out, he's not

1477
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna play, so it's gonna be Zappy. So it's a

1478
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: moot point, right, But I don't understand this thing that

1479
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, let's see Zappy, the obsession over Bailey Zappy's

1480
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: I was already triggered to buy it yesterday and it's

1481
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: still I mean, do you think it's all that different

1482
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: though then like Jared's did him like a couple of

1483
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: years now, it's just anytime you have a backup quarterback

1484
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 1: that you don't quite know, and and that whole year

1485
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: you had they really like Stidham, like they're gonna go

1486
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: with Stidham, then they signed Cam Newton. I just think

1487
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: all this like you're gonna get your wish. You're gonna

1488
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: get to see Bailey's appy this weekend against one of

1489
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in the NFL, and then let's regroup

1490
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: after that, see how he does with a week to prepare.

1491
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: So this is, you know, it's favorable conditions now for

1492
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: him as much as they can be for you know,

1493
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: for a fourth round pick that just got you know,

1494
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: out of college. So we'll see, let's see, we'll see

1495
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: how he does, and if he does really well, then

1496
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe those people are right. But I think

1497
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: it's a pointless debate right now because it's just it's

1498
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: gonna happen. He's gonna play this weekend. I'm convinced that

1499
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: this decision was made for everyone this week you know,

1500
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: thank God? Yeah, because you know, I can't. I don't

1501
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: understand the controversy. I don't understand any of this with

1502
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: Bailey's appy. And I pose this question to Alex yesterday

1503
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 1: on Patriots Cash twenty two. Here we go Wednesday three,

1504
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: and I see, because Alex is not to throw him

1505
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: unt of the bus. But he's a appy guy, right.

1506
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: He liked Zappy in college and was happy that they

1507
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: drafted him. So I said, what is because I don't

1508
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: see it, Like, what is it that people saw out

1509
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: of that game on Sunday that have them convinced that

1510
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy is now going to be the guy or

1511
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 1: is now some great quarterback or whatever you want to

1512
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 1: call it. And he said that he didn't throw any interceptions.

1513
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: I was like, so that's the that's the bottom line

1514
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: is that if you only drop back to pass eighteen times.

1515
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: Six of them are off play action and all the

1516
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: other ones there's some sort of manage drop back where

1517
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: you really only have one read going on on the field,

1518
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: and he don't throw it to the other team. Now,

1519
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you are franchise quarterback like that

1520
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: is our that's our baseline now for it, because that's ridiculous.

1521
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: How bad would you have to be to throw an

1522
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: interception in those conditions? Right out the fact that he

1523
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: froze in the pocket twice and took two sacks in

1524
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: the game, that he missed a open Hunter Henry on

1525
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: third down and overtime because he panicked in the pocket again.

1526
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: But let's take all of that out, because he didn't

1527
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: throw the ball to the other team. He's yeah, don't

1528
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: mean that game either. My real question would be what

1529
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: did Hoyer do in that game? Forget about what you

1530
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: think of Hoyer? Right? What did Hoyer do in that

1531
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: game that you said can't play him again? Right? Right?

1532
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: Because yesterday I think you were kind of making the

1533
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he threw six passes the other guy through fifteen.

1534
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: He played the whole game. He played the whole He

1535
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: played four quarters worth of football and he threw fifteen

1536
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: passes Hoyer through six. Does that tell you a little

1537
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: bit about what the coaches thought, right? I don't know, Like,

1538
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: do you want to win? I mean, or you just

1539
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: want to see this new guy? Right? And if you

1540
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: think that, like the emailer said that the season is over, yeah,

1541
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: then that's different. That's fine. I don't think like that.

1542
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: At one in three. I think there's far too much

1543
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: football to be even if he think the season's over.

1544
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: I want to see the offense run at its full capacity,

1545
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 1: meaning the full play book, you know, and with Zappy

1546
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: you really can't do that. Yeah. Yeah, if I thought

1547
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: the season was really over, I would never advocate hoy

1548
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 1: or over Zappy, Okay, because I think you better served

1549
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: long term to get another quarterback as much. I mean,

1550
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity now. Is unfortunate as it is

1551
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: to not have your starting quarterback available, So I don't

1552
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: need a thirty something year old veteran backup to play.

1553
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 1: That's not helping my offense. I don't know. I don't

1554
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 1: run my team just for one guy. I'm not running

1555
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: it for one guy. I'm running it for the team.

1556
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: It's better for the team to have a young guy,

1557
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: get reps if you're if you're truly out of it.

1558
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: Not at one in three. We're not even close to that.

1559
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you lose the next two games and you're

1560
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: one in six and you're one in five. Rather that's

1561
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 1: that could be a different story, But that's not for

1562
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: one guy. That's not just for Bailey Zappy. That helps

1563
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: the team. Do I need a backup quarterback next year

1564
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: that I have to pay for? Well? Can I save

1565
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: some money on that slot and have this guy who's

1566
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: going to be every bit is effective as a as

1567
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: a backup or maybe he can't play. We find that

1568
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: out now. It's just interesting because I think the goal

1569
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: when they drafted Mac and now that they're crafting this

1570
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: offense around Mac Jones. Bailey Zappy ran an air raid

1571
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: system at Western Kentucky. But there are some similarities to

1572
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: where they're going, and I feel like the system fit

1573
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: the new system, fit whatever you want to call it.

1574
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: As Mac as the starter and Bailey as the backup

1575
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Like they're very stylistically similar quarterbacks.

1576
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: So what I found interesting on Sunday was that they

1577
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: ran a bunch of under center stuff with Bailey Zappy

1578
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: at Western Kentucky. I think you can count on one

1579
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: hand the amount of times he was under center. Like

1580
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: it's a spread air raid offense where even kneel downs.

1581
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: They took kneel downs in the gun. He didn't even

1582
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: go under center for kneel downs. So that's the type

1583
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: of offense. They ran the Hilltoppers, by the way, and

1584
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: they come out on Sunday and he's under center a bunch.

1585
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: And I asked him about it yesterday and he said,

1586
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: I feel a lot more comfortable with it than I

1587
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: did a year ago playing under center. So he's been

1588
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: working on it hard. You know. After practice he said,

1589
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: why do you think they did that? Well, I think

1590
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: that the opportunity is off play action. We're just making

1591
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 1: it so easy for him to complete passes down the

1592
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: field that it was the right thing to do. I mean,

1593
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: you don't get a wide open Davante Parker for a

1594
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: touchdown twenty five yards out without some play action and

1595
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: some misdirection. He's selling him short. He runs play action

1596
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: better better than Mac, really, Ben ben voland they need

1597
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: to get Mac up to speed on these play actions.

1598
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with the fact that you're ran

1599
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 1: the ball thirty eight plays in a row and had

1600
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: him under center and ran a couple of play Actually,

1601
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 1: it really sells that fake Zack and Brighton. In your opinion,

1602
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: do you think there is a better approach to Thornton's return,

1603
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: assuming he is close to fully healthy. Either A, start

1604
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: him as soon as he's available, but with Zappi at quarterback,

1605
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 1: or B give him some extra time over these twenty

1606
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: one days and see if you could time it out

1607
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: with Mac returning. Well, let's let's throw the Thornton question

1608
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: at Evan. I'm curious what my short answer to that is.

1609
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,799
Speaker 1: I don't it's the quarterback that any of the quarterback

1610
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't impact Thornton's return. It should be his health. Um.

1611
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: The question we discussed earlier, UM was Thornton comes back?

1612
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,839
Speaker 1: How do you how do you divide up the snaps?

1613
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 1: Like who kind of who do you eat into? Or

1614
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 1: do I mean do you even? I mean does something

1615
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: have to be done? I mean you can't them to

1616
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: eat into? Or who will they eat? What do you

1617
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: think will have I'll answer both. I think the first

1618
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: one who I want to see them eating the snaps

1619
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: is DeVante Parker because we're all in agreement, Tykwon should

1620
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: be playing the X, right, and you have him at

1621
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: the X and Aglare at the Z on first down,

1622
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you got some speed on

1623
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: the field and in their under center stuff and the

1624
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: things that they do out of that personnel grouping, the

1625
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: X is really the one that's taking the top off

1626
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 1: the defense, and the Z is the guy that's going

1627
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: to see all the targets. So the ball is not

1628
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: necessarily going to go to Tykewon Thornton unless the safety

1629
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: jumps Nelson underneath or it's a breasted coverage or something

1630
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: like that. So it's not like he's going to go

1631
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: in and play his high volume role, which I think

1632
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: is probably for the best at least until that collarbone

1633
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: is one hundred and ten percent and stead of just,

1634
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: you know, a hundred. So I would like to see

1635
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: him get in there with some of those snaps for

1636
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker because really, other than that, I mean, you're

1637
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: not going to have him play in little Jordan Humphrey

1638
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: spot because you're not gonna have him block like that

1639
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: like little Jordan Humphries blocking, And I don't really know

1640
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: where else he fits in, So it's really just kind

1641
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 1: of that's your really your only option. But what I

1642
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: got to do, I got the need for speed. I mean,

1643
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: I gotta see Taekwon like this is. This is a

1644
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: guy in training camp that clearly showed that he can

1645
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: do something on the football field with that four two eight,

1646
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: and they desperately needed. I mean, him and Agala are

1647
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: together is as fast as they've been on the outside

1648
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: and in quite some time, probably like Brandon Cooks. Yeah,

1649
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: and what what I like to see from him, uh

1650
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: during the summer was he got off the line quick.

1651
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't just fast, he was able to get free

1652
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: quickly off the line, which I wondered about, you know,

1653
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: because can he get jammed up and we'll let you know,

1654
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: stunt his ability to get down field. But no, he

1655
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: was able to elude the guy even when it was

1656
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: I press. He was able to get around him really quickly. Yeah,

1657
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was similar to what I kind of said.

1658
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I was saying, put him on between the twenties,

1659
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, to stretch the field the night. I mean,

1660
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: I like the Parker can test to catch of it all.

1661
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know how effective that is up and

1662
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: down the field. You know, put him in in the

1663
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: red zone and chuck him out. I think Parker's the

1664
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: guy too. I just I'm looking at the amount of

1665
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: playing time that Parker gets and I think it's unrealistic.

1666
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: Like I think they love him. That's that's where I'm

1667
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: at with it, too, is that that's the guy. That

1668
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: is the obvious way to get him off the field.

1669
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they'll take Parker off the

1670
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: field based off of what they've done. But I think

1671
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: at the same time, you got the vertical element, and

1672
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 1: you also have Tai Kwon potentially horizontally stretching the defense

1673
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: as well. Like even I don't think it'd be a

1674
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 1: great idea to give a hundred and seventy five pound

1675
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: receiver jet sweeps and things like that, but even the

1676
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: threat of him coming in motion or something like that

1677
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: before the snap can get the defense to do some

1678
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: different things that can open up some holes for other guy.

1679
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: So those are the types of things that I just

1680
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: I think it's too the speed translated too well in

1681
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 1: training camp and in the preseason to not use it

1682
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 1: in some capacity, even if he's only out there for

1683
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,560
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty snaps a game. And I wondered if it

1684
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: might do something with Born, you know, maybe move him

1685
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: before the deadline for something they feel because I don't

1686
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: know if there's enough snaps. I mean, they already can't

1687
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: seem to get Born any like significant playing time. As

1688
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: you said, they love Humphrey in this role. I mean,

1689
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: obviously they wouldn't put as you said, they wouldn't put

1690
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: Thornton in that role. But could you eliminate Humphrey from

1691
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: the equation and just not have I mean, I don't

1692
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: think a lot of teams, you know, have wide receivers

1693
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 1: that they think, up, we got to have him, you know,

1694
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: out there thirty five forty five players a game because

1695
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: we need to run the ball like wide receiver. I

1696
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: don't think that that's a necessity to your your running game. Um.

1697
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: I wonder if how they find a way to get

1698
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: him not only onto the roster, but in all in

1699
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: the offense. Tim writes in I was also at the

1700
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: game in seventy nine when a halftime the crowd determined

1701
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: the logo going forward. I believe it was a Monday

1702
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: night game, and what I remember most was yelling at

1703
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: people not to boo the new logo since it was

1704
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: a decibel meter making the call. I agree. A lot

1705
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: of people didn't like the Patriots logo the old one,

1706
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: but I always loved it and can't wait to wear

1707
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: the old logo Sunday and see it on the field.

1708
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: Have a great day. And by the way, Evan has

1709
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: been a great addition to the team. I find him

1710
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 1: very knowledgeable and he has a great way about him.

1711
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: So you can unblock him on the bush. Yeah, yeah,

1712
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: they were. People were yelling we want the old one

1713
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: at that game. By the way, it was a Sunday,

1714
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: It was a Sunday game. It was a regular Sunday game. Okay,

1715
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I do remember it, okay. And someone actually had sent me, Um,

1716
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 1: this is a while back now. Someone had sent me

1717
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: like an old newspaper clip from it the team like

1718
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: it was all a Billy Sullivan production, Like they came

1719
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: up with it in marketing, like it was a whole

1720
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: campaign and they put a release out with it. This

1721
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: is what they're gonna do. This is how it's going

1722
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: to get voted on. And the email is right, Um,

1723
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: negative comments for one or the other, We're just going

1724
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: to get attached to pod. Like they couldn't decipher whether

1725
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: or not you were saying we want this or we

1726
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: hate this. If there was noise that was going to

1727
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: get a vote for the you know, and people would

1728
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: literally yeah. It was like it was like Reagan Mondale. Yeah,

1729
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: like it was a complete blow with a blowout. This

1730
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: is the problem with nineteen seventy ninety. Nowadays, we can

1731
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: just do a Twitter poll and there's there's no decibel

1732
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: levels that we need to worry about. But I remember

1733
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 1: that what didn't that old logo have, Like the flag

1734
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: was like it was a little Yeah, it was an

1735
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: awful logo that was worse. It was. Yeah, the old

1736
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: one was better than than the new one, but it

1737
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: was little. It was a little Elvis like, but it

1738
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: had it had the flag waving at the end. It

1739
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: was kind of more square. Okay, um, it was. It

1740
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: was kind of funny looking. I agree the pat Patriot

1741
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: was better. Andrew and La the poll on ninety eight

1742
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: point point five should have been a mack at seventy

1743
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: five percent, be zappy see a healthy Hoyer or d

1744
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: not having fun going twelve and four every year. That's

1745
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: that's what I appreciate that. Thank you, not just produce

1746
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Oh it's a burden. We lived through it. You know,

1747
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: we didn't know how we made it. Do you think

1748
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: he was the championship be here or an India and

1749
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: you was so depressed. It amazes me how that depressed you, Joel. Right, then,

1750
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: if Zappy comports himself well against the Lions and finds

1751
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: a way to win, is there any financial benefit to

1752
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: cutting Hoyer and going with Zappy as QB two. It's

1753
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: actually a detriment to their salary cap. There's dead money. Yeah,

1754
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: he's got guaranteed money. Everybody hates Brian Hoyer. That's why

1755
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: they just want him to be a coach or just

1756
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: get out of the way. Yeah, that's why they couldn't

1757
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: do the you know, check with us later thing with

1758
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer on cutdown days because they guarantee him money

1759
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: this year. Let's see Brent in Indiana. One of those

1760
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: tight ends that isn't top of the line talent but

1761
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: is producing reasonably well is the Jets tight end. He

1762
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: also has had Flacco and Wilson throwing to him. So

1763
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier, you weren't here. You know,

1764
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: I just wish we could get some production out of

1765
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: our tight end position. And now I know Smith is

1766
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 1: hurt now, But like I watch other NFL games and

1767
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: it just seems like even average tight ends are getting

1768
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 1: like one or two plays a game where they're like

1769
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: twenty yards down field and wide open. And I think

1770
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: it's because I would the Jets have good wide receiver. Yes,

1771
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: none of them would make that argument. None of our

1772
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: outside guys right now are commanding double teams and it's

1773
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: allowing teams to kind of crowd the middle in our

1774
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: tight ends just aren't. We don't have those opportunities now.

1775
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: It could come down the quarterback play too, but I

1776
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: just wish we could get those, you know, one or

1777
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: two plays out of our tight ends per game that

1778
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: other teams seem to be getting even with average tight ends.

1779
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: I think with John Who, he's a schemed tight end

1780
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: right like, you got to use him properly. He's not

1781
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: a route runner. To me, that's that that you know,

1782
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: what's the point there if you have to really scheme

1783
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: it up to get to it. Well, I think that

1784
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: that was a big reason why we saw so much

1785
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,560
Speaker 1: of the bootleg stuff in the outside zone stuff in

1786
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: training camp was the idea was to eventually use John

1787
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 1: Who on those slide routes. Where they just kind of

1788
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 1: bring the guy across the formation and dump it to

1789
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: him in the flat. And that was supposed to be

1790
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: his role in that system, which is why it made

1791
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,919
Speaker 1: sense for him. I also would say, you know, in Tennessee,

1792
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: he was a pretty good seam runner, which we don't

1793
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: see a lot of here, and that what I would say,

1794
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: is quarterback related. Yeah, that has trouble in the seam

1795
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: seeing the defense. Yeah, he's more of like a slot

1796
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: fade quarterback to drop it in the bucket instead of

1797
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 1: really but to Evan's point, I saw a ton especially

1798
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: in the spring, but even in training camp of those

1799
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: zone runs where you know it's hard play actually you

1800
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: give it one of these, you pull it out in

1801
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: that little half boot and then you get the deep

1802
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: over going to the opposite sideline, and that was Jonah

1803
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 1: Smith a lot. Yeah, but you an arm for that. Well,

1804
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: you need to be able to run the ball so

1805
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: you can drop out a bucket. Yeah, but you also

1806
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: need to a good arm together. If anybody can see that,

1807
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: that's that's the logo. That's awful. Throw that together, Like

1808
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: you have to come up with the logo in ten minutes.

1809
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: And they're like that's no wonder the old one. It's

1810
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 1: the one. It's Elvis. It is the same. It absolutely

1811
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: is Elvis with you know, without the waving. Could make

1812
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: it in five steps. It's like baked back to Bacon.

1813
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, you can't tell me you hate

1814
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 1: this and love that. Well, I'll come on, they're not

1815
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,799
Speaker 1: even close. That's not close. I mean, well, the quality

1816
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: of the it's just so much right. Yeah, but all

1817
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: it is is cleaned up. It's the same concept the

1818
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: Elvis itself. It's the same face, Like, how can you

1819
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: say that that's not it's it's not and I think

1820
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: it's the concept is the same. The concept is the same,

1821
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: but the Elvis is much better. Come on, come on, Paul,

1822
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: come on. You know what I feel about the Elvis.

1823
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: I know, hate, but compared to that one on top,

1824
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: it's oh I don't like the one on top. I

1825
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 1: didn't like the new one at the time either. But

1826
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 1: I think we I think Mike is right. I think

1827
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: we modernized it. This is all we did. The problem

1828
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: is our mascot is a human. Yeah, you know, it

1829
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: is tough. Yeah, unless it's like a pirate like that

1830
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 1: historical human too. It's not even like a current human.

1831
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it. Technically it could be a

1832
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: current human, but yeah, it's not the you know, And

1833
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 1: I get and I get like those guys and tricorn

1834
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 1: hats were probably tough mothers, you know. They they they

1835
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 1: survived Mountain Boys, they survived Gettysburg and all that stuff.

1836
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Like I can't do that, you know, but like we

1837
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: have still the out The outfit didn't conquer, you know,

1838
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't conjure upon Getty's bird. Yeah, yeah, Germans,

1839
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, like it doesn't conjure up like fear. What

1840
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: the tricorn hat? Yeah, and the cloak cut people talking

1841
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: crap about it. You're like, well then you're you're not American? Right,

1842
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: come on, I mean, all right, we're on the high

1843
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 1: ground on patriotism. But I'm just I'm just saying. Russell

1844
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: in Arkansas, he hears that the reason why Tom and

1845
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 1: Giselle are getting a divorces because I kissed Tom. That

1846
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: could be, yeah, it could be I could have gotten

1847
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: back to him. Who else is he kissed? Yeah? Uh,

1848
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: let's see what else have we got, Eldred, It's almost

1849
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: time for picks. But oh, that's right, gotta take, gotta take.

1850
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Let me let me take Eldred off the phone line

1851
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: and then we'll do picks. Eldred. What's up, hey, fellows,

1852
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: how y'all doing today? Good video? So where where are

1853
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 1: you watching us on YouTube? Or where are you watching us? Oh? No,

1854
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 1: oh on the app? Okay, okay, all right, ye's feel

1855
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: pretty good. Hey. I know you'll keep talking about the

1856
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: tide end play. I keep wondering too, but I'm not

1857
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: bashing the ot yet. But I've been bashing all year's season.

1858
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: But don't you think it might be on the play column?

1859
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: You could those tied end least in rhythm of some

1860
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: kind of plays, especially if you ever get close to

1861
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: the goal line. Matt Patricia's dog couse must be the

1862
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: size of Gillette Stadium, which is just silly. Don't you

1863
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: hear what Dan Campell has to say about him? Well,

1864
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: even you probably know the answer to that. What's the

1865
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: compared to last year through four games? How are we

1866
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: doing in plays in the red zone in terms of percentage? Yeah?

1867
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: Not well yeah, but I think the biggest thing that

1868
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: you're seeing well, I mean not to like completely pick

1869
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 1: on the execution again, but Hunter Henry Early on in

1870
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: the game, Brian Hoyer throws one over his head open

1871
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 1: on third down over time play. I keep bringing up

1872
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 1: open over the middle, so there was opportunities to get

1873
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry that ball. What about the trips to the

1874
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: red zone compared to last year? They're driving the football, Well,

1875
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: they're they're always even like in the Cam Newton this year. Yeah,

1876
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: they they're yards per the red zone like twice twice

1877
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: a game. Yards per drive, they're up up there. I

1878
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: mean like above league average, which but I'm talking. They

1879
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: got to the red zone twice on Sunday appared to

1880
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: last year through four games that number. I I don't

1881
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: know exactly. I know they're down there in red zone

1882
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: scoring efficiency and they're and they're usually an above average

1883
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: yards per drive team, but maybe that those drives are

1884
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 1: now they're really in trouble this week because Detroit leads

1885
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:35,600
Speaker 1: the league and yards per play and we all know

1886
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 1: that's the indication of a good team. Mike Lombardi taught

1887
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: me that a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah, but

1888
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: I think in the red zone you do see a

1889
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: lot of teams. I think know that Hunter Henry is

1890
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 1: the guy down I just don't think they've had as

1891
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: many opportunities. They haven't. They haven't been in the room.

1892
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean Baltimore game, they got to the red zone.

1893
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 1: I think they were like three for five in the

1894
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: Baltimore game something like that. They got to the red

1895
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: zone a lot against Baltimore. They did not get to

1896
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: the red zone a lot against Miami Pittsburgh war right,

1897
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: but when you see they obviously understandable given Baileys out,

1898
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: But when you score from the twenty five with a

1899
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: touchdown of Davante Parker, that's one. Okay, but that's that's

1900
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: a third time. That's fair enough. I mean, I'm just wondering, like,

1901
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: how many opportunities has Hunter Henry had in the red

1902
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: I just think, why does he only get Why does

1903
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: he only have to have opportunities in the red zone.

1904
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: That's the part I don't get that he was very

1905
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: effective there last year, but he was very effective in

1906
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: the entirety of the field. He had fifty catches, only

1907
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: nine of them were touchdowns. So right now, and yards

1908
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: per drive, the Patriots are eighteenth in the league, so

1909
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: right around league average in offensive yards per drive, so

1910
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: they're they're not a bad team in terms of actually

1911
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: moving the ball between that's not the question. No, I

1912
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: know what the question is. That one is the next

1913
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 1: level one that I'm gonna have to do. Missus Stetton's

1914
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,600
Speaker 1: like bill, like opening day. I mean we crossed midfield

1915
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: five times? Wow? Yeah? Whoa yeah? How many times have

1916
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 1: they been in the red zone? Red zone opportunities? What else? Saldrid?

1917
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: My question? Do I hate if they do this? Get

1918
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: rid of boring? But okay, they say they'd trade them.

1919
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: What about the money you guaranteed him whatever they did?

1920
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Money or do if you trade them, the salary goes

1921
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 1: to the team that trades form. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the

1922
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: base salt the best salary. That's different than cutting him

1923
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: when when you cut him, because you have to absorb,

1924
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: you have to absorb everything. Okay, okay, but but it's

1925
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: a clime waste just to waste their guy because of something,

1926
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 1: to have him doing the stormber or whatever. Yeah. I

1927
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: don't think it's just that that's too much. I don't

1928
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: all right, thank you, thanks Aldred. It's that time of

1929
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: the week, Paul. What happened last week? All right? Uh? Well,

1930
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 1: this blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

1931
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 1: That's me Mike thirteen and three, Wow, followed by Evan

1932
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: and Paul at twelve and four, and Alex and Fred

1933
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: at eleven and five. So you can see it was

1934
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: a rather easy week week with the spread Mike and

1935
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: Paul at ten five and one, followed by Evan at

1936
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 1: nine six and one, Fred at eight seven and one.

1937
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: Congrats Fred one game over five hundred and Alex six

1938
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: nine and one. So these are the standings as follows. Overall,

1939
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: Paul continues to dominate thirty nine twenty four and one,

1940
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,719
Speaker 1: so Mike thirty three thirty in one and Fred thirty

1941
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 1: two thirty and one. So they're the only ones that

1942
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 1: have all four weeks. Evan twelve and four obviously, Alex

1943
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 1: thirty and eighteen I think she's done three weeks, and

1944
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Tamara seven eight and one. So with the spread for

1945
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 1: the season it is Paul thirty seven twenty six and one,

1946
01:38:56,040 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 1: followed by Mike at thirty thirty three and one, Fred

1947
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,759
Speaker 1: at twenty four thirty nine and one, Alex is twenty

1948
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 1: two twenty five and one, and then Evan and so

1949
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 1: it's getting very confusing on my sheet. Now I have

1950
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 1: partial weeks, I have people coming and going, I have

1951
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: people emailing picks after the fact, we'll have to start

1952
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 1: to win percentage instead of the actual number. All right, Tonight,

1953
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: Thursday night, eight fifteen, the Colts are of course in

1954
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: Denver playing the Broncos. One two and one Colts against

1955
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 1: the two and two Broncos. Yeah no, Jonathan Taylor, right,

1956
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 1: So that's that's a big one. They're outdoors in Denver

1957
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 1: battle the Peyton Mannings. Uh. You know what, I'm gonna

1958
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: go with Indie for the upset in Denver. I'm taking Denver.

1959
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan leads the league in fumbles right now by quarterbacks,

1960
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 1: has nine fumbles through four games, no one. And that's

1961
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence having four last game alone. Wow. So

1962
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 1: Denver both ways, both ways, I will take Denver to

1963
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 1: win the game. I will take the hook however, in

1964
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 1: India to keep it close. It's three and a hay three. Yeah,

1965
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Broncos both ways. Um, Sunday,

1966
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 1: this is in the morning at nine thirty Eastern time

1967
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. The three and one Giants are

1968
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 1: being hosted by the three and one Packers. Packers by

1969
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: eight and a half. You know this is the first

1970
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: time that teams with winning records played each other in London?

1971
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: Is that right? Wow? Good for London's good for London,

1972
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 1: good for the London. I'm gonna take green Bay to win,

1973
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take those points. I think it'll I

1974
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 1: think it'll be a little close. I don't think green

1975
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 1: Bay's ready to roll just yet. I'm doing the same thing,

1976
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: exact same reason. Yeah, I'm only taking green Bay both

1977
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 1: ways because I think their giants are gonna be down

1978
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: to like, I don't know, Davis web or someone who's

1979
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: playing quarterback for the Giants. Yeah, if they had Daniel

1980
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: Jones was healthy, I would I would take the points,

1981
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 1: but I won't. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think

1982
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 1: he's healthy. Even if he plays, I'm gonna take the

1983
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: pack both ways. Yeah. I think Bill calls Aaron Rodgers

1984
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 1: during the week and tells him how to be Brian Dable.

1985
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Ill? We're not like Brian Dable? Now. Well,

1986
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron's his new his new buddy. It's Aaron

1987
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 1: from State Farm. Three in the morning. Hey, boo oh

1988
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 1: you up. This is how you be, This is how

1989
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: you beat Brian. He's just so good. I was just

1990
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: thinking about that passenger against US. So he played like

1991
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: he was in a coma for thirty plus minutes. But

1992
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 1: he's just so good. Uh. Sunday at one, the one

1993
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: in three Steelers are at the three and one Bills

1994
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 1: Bills by fourteen. Kenny two gloves. I actually think he's

1995
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 1: gonna be okay for them. He's got to be better

1996
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 1: than your bisky, right, um. But I don't think it's

1997
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna matter. I think Buffalo. I think Buffalo is gonna

1998
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 1: get back on track. I think a lot of injuries though,

1999
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna take Buffalo to win, but

2000
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take the points for fun. I'm going

2001
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. It's just because whenever it's fourteen,

2002
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 1: it spread like that is a lot, even for the Bills.

2003
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: I agree, it's a lot. I'm gonna lay the points. However,

2004
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 1: I just think Buffalo that was a big win for

2005
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 1: them last week. I think that they build off of that.

2006
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: This would be a good time for me to say

2007
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 1: how wrong I was about Pittsburgh just sort of continuing

2008
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: without Roethlisberger. I missed that one. Yeah, I thought they'd

2009
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: be better. I thought they would get better quarterback play

2010
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 1: than they did last year. It's basically been the same terrible.

2011
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting the Steelers and the Patriots are

2012
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 1: always wrong one in three. But I think if you

2013
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: ask the average Patriot fan, they would say, oh, we're

2014
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 1: in a much better position than the Steelers. But are

2015
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 1: we you know, like well they I mean, we're both

2016
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: have quarterback problems right now. Yeah, and they lost their

2017
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 1: best player I mean by far and T J. Watt. Yeah, true,

2018
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think they're in a good spot.

2019
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I do think that the Steamer's season

2020
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: is closer to being over than the Patriots. Yeah, sure,

2021
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: I would concur but I think there's a little zappy

2022
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 1: thing going on where you're about to put your rookie

2023
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: quarterback in and you have that like optimism of like,

2024
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he's gonna be amazing, you know

2025
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 1: that guy, that's what people do one day. One day,

2026
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to see him have a bad day. I'm

2027
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Bills. Both ways. They will cover

2028
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: Sunday at one The two and two Chargers are at

2029
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 1: the two and two Cleveland Browns Chargers by two and

2030
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 1: a half Herbert, A lot of a lot of injuries

2031
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 1: continue for the Charges. I'm gonna go with Cleveland as

2032
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 1: home dogs. I just I think they'll I think they'll

2033
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 1: hold surf. Do we know if Miles Garrett's playing in

2034
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: this game or not because he practiced Yester accident, he

2035
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 1: did practice yesterday. I'll go with Herbert and we'll go

2036
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 1: with the better quarterback. This is a tough one. Take

2037
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,719
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I'll take them. Yeah. I do worry about

2038
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: Mike's right about the injuries for the Chargers, but I

2039
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: just can't bet on Jacoby Brissette. I'll take the Chargers. Yeah,

2040
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: I will too. Um Sunday at one, the O three

2041
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: and one Texans visit the two and two Jaguar, the

2042
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: only winless team in football. Jacksonville by seven. Yeah, I'm

2043
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna take Jacksonville. I think they're they're working with an

2044
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 1: actual football team this year. I will I will lay

2045
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 1: the points as well. I'll take Jacksonville and I'll take

2046
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 1: the points as well. They'll take the points. Yeah, Okay,

2047
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Lama. I like, Yeah, I'm gonna do

2048
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: the same as ev. I'm gonna take take the points.

2049
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: I'll take Jacksonville to win, but Houston to hang around

2050
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: and keep it reasonably close. Does it make me a

2051
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: bad Patriots fans problem rooting for Trevor Lawrence? No? No, why?

2052
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: I think? Well, he's AFC. Don't fall into like this

2053
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 1: like psycho but the question. But it's a psychosis. The

2054
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: only Patriots fans would be concerned about. Like, if you're

2055
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: a guy, if you a guy is good, why do

2056
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: you care about anybody else? I'm rooting Trevor Lawrence. I

2057
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: want to do it, you know, but somehow your guy

2058
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 1: can't just be good. He has to like eat better

2059
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: than all the other guys that were drafted. I know.

2060
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: I like, if you're a guy's good and you win

2061
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 1: a super Bowl with him, what do you care? I know?

2062
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: But I do want. I want Trevor Lawrence to do well.

2063
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him. I think he's really good.

2064
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the guy I feel bad for now

2065
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 1: his fields because I watched some clips that Danilowski put

2066
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: together with that game that was criminal. Some of the

2067
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: like just taking a shotgun snap, catching the snap, looking

2068
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 1: up and having three guys within like two yards of them. Well,

2069
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jacksonville. Both ways. And speaking of

2070
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 1: the Bears, Uh, they're at two and two and they're

2071
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: heading to Minnesota to take on the three and one Vikings.

2072
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: Vikings by seven. How how they got two wins. I'm

2073
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna take the Vikings at home, not on prime time.

2074
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 1: I think that. I think they'll beat up on Chicago. Yeah,

2075
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: I agree with that as well, Kirk Cousins at one

2076
01:45:56,160 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: o'clock when nobody's watching Prime Time right there, I'll take

2077
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Like I said, that Chicago team I think

2078
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: is the worst in football. Yeah, I will as well. Uh.

2079
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the two and two Seahawks are at

2080
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: the one and three Saints. Saints by five and a

2081
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: half over the fighting Gino Smiths. Yeah, fighting Gino Smiths

2082
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:22,640
Speaker 1: get more respect than they should. Yes, I know some

2083
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 1: people thought they were like a Peter dark Horse super

2084
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Bowl team, right. Um, Yeah, I'm gonna tough one. You

2085
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 1: lose your quarterback, though, I don't know I'm gonna. I'm

2086
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: gonna take New Orleans to win, but I'm gonna take

2087
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: those points for Seattle. I'm taking Gino straight up. It's tempting. Yeah,

2088
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: I will take New Orleans both ways. I'm gonna take

2089
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: the points. But are you taking New Orleans to win? Yeah? Okay,

2090
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: but I'll take the points. Yep. I got it that

2091
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: game last week by Gino against the Lions. Impresses Gino

2092
01:46:55,920 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 1: cook better than Russell Wilson, Papa Gino. Um Sunday at one,

2093
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:05,600
Speaker 1: the three and one Dolphins are at the two and

2094
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 1: two Jets Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah, Miami buy three. Miami by

2095
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 1: three with Teddy two gloves. Uh, Jets. Jets are playing

2096
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: a little bit better. But I'm gonna I'm gonna go

2097
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: with Miami even with Teddy two gloves. I will lay

2098
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 1: those points. I'm taking Miami. I'm taking them to cover.

2099
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: You have Tyreek Hill on your team. A lot of

2100
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 1: people can play quarterback. Be interested in to see how

2101
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: they use Sauce Gardner in that game against those dynamic receivers.

2102
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 1: But I'm with the panel, hair, I'll take Miami both ways.

2103
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 1: They'll play n folks. This is your upset, lock of

2104
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 1: the way. I hope you're right. Win this game out right,

2105
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. They're underdogs, so if they win,

2106
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 1: so it'll be out right if they win out right, Yes,

2107
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: that's how you say it. That was gambling probably I

2108
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: don't understand. Good job, good job, Fred. What does the Fred? Now? Yeah?

2109
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, so I'm not fading the Jets this week?

2110
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 1: How could you? Sunday at one the two and two

2111
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: Falcons are at the two and two Buccaneers. But what

2112
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:14,799
Speaker 1: is the mindset of the quarterback? He's also hurt shoulder

2113
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 1: and finger injuring. Yeah, Bucks by nine, Noine, I guess

2114
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: the Sharps don't think it'll affect him that Noick, Marcus Mariota,

2115
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: what did you just say, Mordicus Mariota before that? I

2116
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I want you to replay that one again.

2117
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 1: I need that one, but I want that one over

2118
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: the weekend. I think he just did it again. And

2119
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 1: you know what I heard, right, yea, yea, yeah, no, yeah,

2120
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: you don't even know what you're doing it with that

2121
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,560
Speaker 1: smile on your face. That how do you do? To

2122
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: the video? Go to the video. I'm gonna I'll take Tampa.

2123
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: I'll take Tampa and I'll lay the points. I'm assuming

2124
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: this spread is what it is because the Bucks own

2125
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: the Falcons and the Brady era. That's one of those

2126
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 1: divisional things, and I like the Bucks. No. Cordell Patterson

2127
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: anymore for Atlanta is a big one. Yeah, I'm gonna

2128
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: take the Bucks both ways too. I think they bounced back.

2129
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: I thought the offense actually looked reasonably good last week.

2130
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: You know, some of it was was window dressing at

2131
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 1: the end, but I thought in the first half they

2132
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 1: kind of got caught their gear with with Evans and Godwin,

2133
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm will be back. I'm with team Tom. I

2134
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 1: know that. I texted him. I said, if you need

2135
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 1: a place to crash while you're going through this, you know,

2136
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: you need, you know, kiss or a shoulder to cry.

2137
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: You want to sleep up my couch for a couple

2138
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: of months, you know while you get settled, extra bedroom,

2139
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 1: go ahead? Um yeah, so Bucks both ways. A lot

2140
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,560
Speaker 1: of Sunday at one games. Um, Titans at two and

2141
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: two are in Washington one and three. Is anybody gonna

2142
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 1: watch this game? Titan's by two and a half. Yeah, yeah,

2143
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I just can't go with Carson Wentz.

2144
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Tennessee and I'll lay the points. Yeah,

2145
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:50,560
Speaker 1: I have enough faith in Rabel against the guy. I

2146
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 1: like Carson Wentz that you take Tennessee. I don't like

2147
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 1: it though, Yeah, I don't think the Titans are great,

2148
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: but I will take them to win this game. Me too, Titans.

2149
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: Right now, we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock

2150
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 1: and we moved to four oh five the two and

2151
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 1: two forty nine Ers led by Jimmy Garoppolo, or at

2152
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers one and three San Francisco buy six and

2153
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 1: a half, six and half by geez, wow, that went up.

2154
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take San Francisco and I will lay the points.

2155
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: I think the worst you've mentioned Chicago, they might have worst.

2156
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 1: Carolina's offense is one of the worst offenses in the NFL.

2157
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: Right now, hands dead. That's another one. Roulovski spins hours,

2158
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason to what they're doing. This what

2159
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 1: people thought the Matt Patricia ero was gonna be like here,

2160
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: So I'll take San Francisco and I'll take them the cover. Yeah,

2161
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 1: I will take the Niners as well. I think that

2162
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 1: defense is legit. Yet attack. Who's that the guy that

2163
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 1: kept on comparing to Troy Polamalu and the broadcast the

2164
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 1: other day. I've blanking on his name, but I can play. Yeah.

2165
01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 1: Does he have long hair? Yes, Troy polam I didn't

2166
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 1: watch the game, so I don't know. I know who

2167
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 1: he's talking about. Yeah, I took the Niners. I will too. Um.

2168
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 1: Is Matt Rule gonna last a season? No? No? Is

2169
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: this David Tepper guy like a short fuse guy. Will

2170
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 1: he fire him or no? But I think he's h

2171
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: He hasn't fired him yet, which I think is impressive honestly. Yeah.

2172
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah for a new a new owner not getting any results. Yeah, you.

2173
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 1: I think Evan's right. You expect those guys to be impulsive. Yeah.

2174
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 1: UM four twenty five, the four and no Eagles the

2175
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:36,560
Speaker 1: only undefeated team. UM are at the Cardinals two and

2176
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: two Eagles by five and a half, five and a

2177
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 1: hay huh. I'm gonna take Philadelphia to win. I'm gonna

2178
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 1: take the points for Arizona at home. I think it'll

2179
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: be close one. I'll do the same thing. But that

2180
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals team is grossly underperforming right now, and I don't

2181
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't really like trusting them at all, even to cover.

2182
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: But I'll do the same thing. Yeah, I'm gonna do

2183
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 1: the same I think five and a half is too

2184
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: many for a home dog with talent. I will take

2185
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 1: the points as well. I'll take the hook is that right? Well, no,

2186
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 1: not really, no, but I know you meant okay, um

2187
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: four twenty five three and one Cowboys, big surprise against

2188
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:17,719
Speaker 1: the two and two Rams, Rams by five and a half.

2189
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: That's an interesting one, um ms Rams and in fighting,

2190
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: couple a couple of defense and now it's a couple

2191
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 1: of defensive players getting in a fight. Yeah. The other night,

2192
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: some term Stafford not playing well. He could have had

2193
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,640
Speaker 1: several picks in that game that were dropped by the

2194
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,839
Speaker 1: Nooiners lobby lagger in legal trouble for laying out the streaker,

2195
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 1: a lot of complications. Uh, you know, I'm gonna take

2196
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Rams to win, but I'm gonna

2197
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 1: take the points for Dallas. I think it's it's a close,

2198
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,800
Speaker 1: good game, and do the same thing. The Rams are

2199
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: in a bad way right now though their offense is

2200
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: nobody but Cooper Rush, Cooper cups and even Aaron Donne

2201
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 1: is not quite as dominant as Aaron Donald usually is.

2202
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,879
Speaker 1: And he's been talking about retirement the last couple off seasons.

2203
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 1: You wonder if maybe he's got his ring as well

2204
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 1: and slowing down well, and you know he's been thinking

2205
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, but I am going to take the

2206
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 1: Rams to bounce back, and I think this may be

2207
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 1: one of those uh market correction games for Cooper Rush

2208
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: at some point. Like I mean, I give him all

2209
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: the credit of the word. These playing looks. They're not

2210
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 1: playing games like they're playing with a backup quarterback. They're

2211
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: playing normal football, and they're playing well. Their defense has

2212
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 1: been outstanding. But I think that the Rams might might

2213
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 1: break out. I'm with you, Paula. This Cooper Rush thing

2214
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 1: has to end. It's an abomination us both ways. Sunday night,

2215
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: the two and two Bengals are at the two and

2216
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 1: two Ravens. Ravens buy three games, So the Ravens are

2217
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: up seventeen, say, two minutes left in the third quarter.

2218
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 1: What do you think happens watching That's what happens every

2219
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 1: home game for the Ravens. You're watching that pregame and

2220
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,560
Speaker 1: Fred in the press box, and I was very disappointed

2221
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 1: that they didn't. Oh yeah, you know, like the Bills

2222
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 1: are gonna come back, aren't they. Well, when Patrick Queen

2223
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: dropped that interception, I said, I said to Fred, if

2224
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 1: they come back, that's going to be the play. Yeah,

2225
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 1: they overcame. That dropped interception by Patrick Queen the week before.

2226
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: Evidently he got bad hands. Yea, that's twice. I saw

2227
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 1: him getting hit in the six and I saw the

2228
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 1: play that Evan's talking about. I can't believe he didn't

2229
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 1: catch that, y as Queen. I'm gonna take I'm gonna

2230
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:30,759
Speaker 1: take Baltimore to win and I'm gonna lay the points.

2231
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: Tough call, but this is a division game. I'm gonna

2232
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 1: take Baltimore two and I'm going to take them to cover.

2233
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: But that secondary against that pass offense as Cincinnati does

2234
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: scare me. Yeah, I'm gonna take the Ravens, just just

2235
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 1: the the home team the game. We're in Cincinnati. As

2236
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: you like to say, I would probably go the other way. Tough,

2237
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 1: tough division game. I think these are two really good

2238
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 1: football teams, pretty evenly matched teams. I'll take the Ravens.

2239
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: I didn't hate the Bengals. I take them. I'm taking

2240
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens day night. The rain is one in three

2241
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs three and one, Kansas City by seven

2242
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: and a half, seven and a half. I just saw

2243
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 1: a stat of like Kansas City's record in division. It's ridiculous.

2244
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I am pulling for Josh I'm gonna take Kansas City

2245
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: to win. I do think the Raiders put up some points,

2246
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 1: so I will take that seven and a half points,

2247
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 1: but I like Kansas City to win. I'm gonna take

2248
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and I'm gonna take them to win, Big Josh.

2249
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 1: The best quarterback in the league right now, in my

2250
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: mind is Patrick Mahomes. Okay, I trust controversy. I will

2251
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 1: take Kansas City as well, but I'll be with Deuce.

2252
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: I will take the I will take the hook. I'm

2253
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 1: with Evan. I think Kansas City rolls to a win here.

2254
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 1: All right. Now, we go back to one o'clock and

2255
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 1: the one in three Lions are at the one in

2256
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: three Patriots. Patriots by three and a half, three and

2257
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 1: a half. I don't know who the shows like. Fred,

2258
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't have the information for you today. Okay, Well,

2259
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 1: the Deuce likes New England. I'm gonna take the Patriots.

2260
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 1: I will lay the points. I think they I think

2261
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: they hold the lines two around twenty points. I got something,

2262
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, twenty seven seventeen, somewhere in that range. I

2263
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: think I think they win. I'm not exactly handily, but

2264
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 1: by a score and a half or so. Yeah, I'll

2265
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 1: take the Patriots too, but I think it's a close.

2266
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: I think you said three and a half, three and

2267
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 1: a half. It's a three point game. Oh the hoof.

2268
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if Freddy will be able to take that.

2269
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 1: You're ticker. I worry about you. Yeah, I worry about you.

2270
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: I am going to take the Patriots as well, and

2271
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 1: I am going to take him to cover by the

2272
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 1: slimmest of margins twenty seven twenty three. But that's enough

2273
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 1: for a cover with a three and a half points spread.

2274
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: I had a dream I had last night, and I'm

2275
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 1: not gonna pick this point. I had a dream that

2276
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots won this game, like forty three to seven.

2277
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: It's funny. I had a dream that a guy that

2278
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 1: I coached baseball with a Peabody little league last night

2279
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 1: was named the new head coach of the New York Jets. Okay,

2280
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 1: Sean Flannagan new head coach of the Jets was what

2281
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 1: was the score of the Thanksgiving game where they were

2282
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 1: the throwbacks, Brady long Hair? It might have been forty

2283
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: three seven. Maybe that that game was close, that that

2284
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: game was tied after three quarters and the Patriots won

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01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 1: it with a twenty one point just started absolutely imploye game.

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Speaker 1: It was one of these. Of course it wasn't Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: Why would the starting quarterback play again? It was somebody

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Speaker 1: I feel I can't remember, but I remember the d

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Speaker 1: I remember the Branch touchdown. He played a great three

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Speaker 1: quarters and then he threw. I think he had two

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Speaker 1: picks in the fourth quarters. Guy, I'm gonna say that

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Speaker 1: Devin mccordy had a pick in that game, huh. In

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Speaker 1: the red uniforms. It was like forty five twenty four

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Speaker 1: or something like that, But that was It was twenty

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Speaker 1: four twenty four after three. But I gotta look at that.

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Speaker 1: I am gonna say the Patriots win, and I think

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Speaker 1: they scored some points. They may not all be offensive points.

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Speaker 1: Thirty to twenty seven. Patriots win, A cover for Detroit,

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Speaker 1: A cover for Detroit. So that's it, shook, Fred, I

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Speaker 1: got your red zone stats? What's okay? All right? So

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Speaker 1: in four games this year, the Patriots have been to

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Speaker 1: the red zone ten times, so that's two and a

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Speaker 1: half times a game. Last year they win sixty four

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Speaker 1: times in seventeen games, which is three point eight times

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Speaker 1: per game. So over a red zone drive per game

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Speaker 1: more last Yeah, but I just wanted to because there

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Speaker 1: was the Buffalo game. There's some games in there that

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Speaker 1: skew it. So, I mean just through the first four games. No, no,

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Speaker 1: but that's he's telling you. They've been in there over

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Speaker 1: a possession less per game than last year. But he

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Speaker 1: did over sixty over sixteen games, sixty four trips. Why

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Speaker 1: do you have to make everything so complicent? Can do?

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Speaker 1: Answer to the question is always simple. You guys can

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Speaker 1: over complicate this point. They haven't been in the red

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Speaker 1: zone often. You're you're correct, I know, but it might

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Speaker 1: even be worse than he's saying, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: They were a top ten red zone scoring team last year,

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Speaker 1: seventh in the league. This year there's twenty yeah, twenty first.

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Speaker 1: But he's asking how many times they were in the

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Speaker 1: red zone? Right, red zone opportunities, red zone opportunities. He

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Speaker 1: gave the numbers. They've always been there. Okay, if in

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Speaker 1: one of those games they were there twice as often

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Speaker 1: as they normally are, all right, the other three games

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Speaker 1: they weren't there at all. You know, who can pick that?

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Speaker 1: That conversation up John Rook in the playbook. Please don't.

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Speaker 1: He's up next so he can continue that conversation. As

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Speaker 1: for us, we'll see you next Tuesday. What's that? Oh?

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Speaker 1: The read? The read? I gotta do a read? This

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Speaker 1: is uh? Which one? I got all these reads here?

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